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Speaker 1: The third hour of Clay and Box starts. Now, everyone,

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Speaker 1: thanks for being here with us, Thanks for joining or

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Speaker 1: staying with depending on where you fall on that one.

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Speaker 1: We are still waiting, and with with every quick glance,

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Speaker 1: with every gesticulation, I'm not sure if Clay or our

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Speaker 1: staff in New York City is going to tell me

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Speaker 1: we have a verdict and we're gonna go live. But

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Speaker 1: you know, we're waiting. We're waiting, and we do really

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Speaker 1: hope that we will at least get the opportunity to

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Speaker 1: share that with you live as it happens and analyze

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Speaker 1: it live as soon as we all know.

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Speaker 2: But it could happen.

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Speaker 1: When we are all air, which would be so sad

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Speaker 1: for all because we will have a lot to say

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Speaker 1: on that one. But we'll definitely get to it the

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Speaker 1: next day, maybe this hour, maybe tomorrow, who knows. The

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Speaker 1: jury is out. The jury is sitting around discussing, thinking

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Speaker 1: this one over. We've talked about some of their requests.

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Speaker 1: They wanted some clarification on some things, and so we

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Speaker 1: are in a state of waiting. One thing that we

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Speaker 1: had not thought of or anticipated as a possibility. And

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Speaker 1: I don't want to disagree with Professor Dershowitz on this

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Speaker 1: one without knowing for sure, although we did once debate

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Speaker 1: guns on CNN, and I know more than he does

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Speaker 1: about guns by a lot. So nobody's perfect. But this

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Speaker 1: is the law, So this is in his wheelhouse. This

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Speaker 1: is a different thing. Firearms more my thing, the law

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Speaker 1: more his thing. What's up worth mentioning? He was totally

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Speaker 1: wrong on four trials will be complete? Remember last year,

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Speaker 1: totally them out. Yes, said all four trials will be complete.

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Speaker 1: And I'm gonna be honest with you.

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Speaker 3: I don't like to be on the opposite side with

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Speaker 3: the legal mind like Alan Dershwitz.

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Speaker 2: But I said about this time last.

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Speaker 3: Year, there's no way they're going to get four done,

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Speaker 3: and it looks like they're gonna get one done. So

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Speaker 3: he was wrong there. I don't think there's any way

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Speaker 3: what he suggested today is gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: He also thought states that allow concealed carry all have

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Speaker 1: much higher rates of violence, And I was like, you

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Speaker 1: should check out this place called Vermont, where there's basically

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Speaker 1: no violence. Anyway we we should get into. This was

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Speaker 1: years and years ago, by the way, But here's what

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Speaker 1: he said. I just want to note that he said this.

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Speaker 1: He's saying that there's a possibility if there is a

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Speaker 1: hold out in the jury, that the jury could rather

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Speaker 1: the judge could replace that. I have never heard of

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Speaker 1: this before. I have not tried cases. I have been

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Speaker 1: in the room when cases were being brought against terrorism defendants.

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Speaker 1: So I'm, you know, meaning the actual creation of the

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Speaker 1: the courtroom prosecuting one, nor have I been a judge.

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Speaker 1: Let's just hear what Dersh has to say about this one.

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Speaker 1: He's great on a lot of stuff, and this is

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Speaker 4: Here's from the jurisis and the judge hears that they're

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Speaker 4: eleven to one. And then the judge says, well, is

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Speaker 4: that other jura, the twelfth jura?

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Speaker 1: Is he negotiating?

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Speaker 2: Is he.

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Speaker 4: Involved in the conversations and the format of the jury

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Speaker 4: says no, he's refusing. He's sitting there with his arms

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Speaker 4: fold and saying, guys, innocent, Sorry, guys innocent.

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Speaker 5: I'm not going to listen to you.

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Speaker 4: Edison there's no case here. The guys edisent. If I

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Speaker 4: are on the jury, that's what I'd be doing. And

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Speaker 4: then the judge has the power, rarely rarely exercised, but

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Speaker 4: he has the power I've seen it done to say, well,

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Speaker 4: if this Jura won't deliberate, then he's violating his oath,

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Speaker 4: and I'm going to substitute one of the alternate jurors

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Speaker 1: Now we all heard what he said there. He said

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Speaker 2: What I will say.

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Speaker 3: As we sit here with fifty minutes left in our

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Speaker 2: I'm not guilty.

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Speaker 3: And again, I don't believe there's anybody out there that

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Speaker 1: There's also a possibility here that I don't think we've

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Speaker 1: this because it is a very big deal, not just

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Speaker 1: to have a former president. If Trump never planned on

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Speaker 1: makes this a really big deal. That is all true. However,

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Speaker 1: there's also this scenario, Klay, tell me, tell me if

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Speaker 1: this is too crazy. All right, this may be too crazy.

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Speaker 1: Let's say it is guilty. Just for the purposes of discussion.

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Speaker 1: he's guilty. I mean, they've already said he's an insurrectionist,

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Speaker 1: they've said far worse things about Trump, and and sort

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Speaker 1: that he falsified a business record.

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Speaker 1: I think that their entire mo here is to get

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure even if he gets convicted, anyone is

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Speaker 3: This goes to my underlying thesis. I think people have

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Speaker 3: already made up their mind, I mean, and just put

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Speaker 3: it in your own world. I appreciate our caller from

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Speaker 3: love to hear from anybody else out there listening. Eight

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Speaker 3: Maybe you voted for Hill and then you voted for

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Speaker 3: And that gentleman who called in said it was Trump's behavior,

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Speaker 3: and I hear that a lot. I totally get it.

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Speaker 3: I think now, unlike in twenty twenty, you have the

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Speaker 1: I remember the late writer Christopher Hitchens a long time

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Speaker 1: You know, what bottle of wine do you want? You know,

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Speaker 1: Both of them are crimes, but there are the crimes

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Speaker 1: for taxes, do you think they're a bad person. You

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Speaker 1: get you get the point right with this? What person

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Speaker 1: if he's convicted. You know, I was really thinking Trump.

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Speaker 1: But since the business records entry issue of twenty seventeen

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Speaker 1: Never before has there been so much attention on a

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Speaker 2: I think that's true.

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Speaker 3: I think the end result here, if Trump is found guilty,

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Speaker 3: nobody's changing their mind. And this is why I think

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Speaker 3: the polls have been pretty fixed, because everybody knows what

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Speaker 1: But also on the other side of this, I mean,

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Speaker 1: to be fair, Let's say it's a hung jury, which

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Speaker 1: you've been you've been predicting, and I'm you know, getting

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Speaker 1: Let's say it is a hung jury. Uh, does that

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Speaker 1: a reiteration what you're saying, how people have decided if

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Speaker 1: it is a hung jury. I think people look at

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Speaker 8: The debate is gonna show if he gets up there

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Speaker 1: remember what I said before we even took these callers.

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Speaker 1: I remember from the Trump years there were there were

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Speaker 1: always people for whom the policies they liked, but the

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Speaker 1: style just bothered them to the point where they were

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Speaker 1: open to other ideas. I never I mean to me that,

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Speaker 1: I just I can't imagine. That's just not how I

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Speaker 1: would approach politics. But it was a common enough thing

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Speaker 1: that you would hear from some people who had voted

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Speaker 1: for Trump before. But then they you know, this is

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Speaker 1: kind of the mean tweets thing. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: we'll see n into the time. By the way, those

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Speaker 1: are women. I haven't heard that many men that are like, oh,

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Speaker 1: Trump was too mean. I understand women, suburban women, but

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Speaker 1: we've got two men who basically have said that they

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Speaker 1: voted for Trump once and not sure if they can

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Speaker 1: vote for me again. But yes, John and Princeton, North Carolina.

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Speaker 2: Young voter. You voted for Biden in twenty twenty. How

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Speaker 2: old were you then?

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Speaker 6: Oh? I was eighteen, and it was the worst mistake

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Speaker 6: I ever made.

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Speaker 1: Oh Man, Well, welcome to the righteous and the truthful

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Speaker 1: over here.

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Speaker 3: What made you vote for Biden in twenty twenty when

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Speaker 3: you were eighteen and now you say you're switching. You're

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Speaker 3: a North Carolinian and voting for Trump in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: I'm just curious how you came to make the decision

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty, first time voting, if you're eighteen, and

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Speaker 3: what's made you change your mind for twenty four.

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Speaker 6: I wouldn't even say. Because I think Trump's behavior is amazing.

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Speaker 6: I think I love it. I think some of the

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Speaker 6: earlier callers I don't know what they're talking about. I

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Speaker 6: love how he goes at it. He almost didn't feel

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Speaker 6: is aggressive enough. But I love right now that he's

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Speaker 6: you know, staying on topic, he's going after people. He

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Speaker 6: needs to be more aggressive, you know, Biden. I think

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Speaker 6: the biggest thing he's just not talking about the economy.

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Speaker 6: He hasn't even mentioned it. I mean, we need to

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Speaker 6: know that we're going to be spoken about the middle class,

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Speaker 6: the dying middle class, as you know Trump likes to

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Speaker 6: call it. I think we need to be spoken about.

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Speaker 3: So, but what made you vote Biden in twenty twenty?

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Speaker 3: Did you feel pressure because you're a high school age guy,

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Speaker 3: young college age guy.

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Speaker 2: What did he.

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Speaker 3: Convince you of in twenty twenty that made you vote

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Speaker 3: for him? That's different now, I.

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Speaker 6: Would say it was more pressure from other people. It

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Speaker 6: was from pressure from other people, the media. I started

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Speaker 6: listening to y'all show when y'all first came on, and

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Speaker 6: I was like, this is a new perspective that I've

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Speaker 6: never heard before. Now I've heard it from other people,

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Speaker 6: you know, in my area. But I'd say, after listening

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Speaker 6: to y'all, like, I completely changed my mind.

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Speaker 1: Well that's excellent. We're doing our job then, John, So

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Speaker 1: that makes me hear. Thank you for being a part

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Speaker 1: of our extended radio family, and please spread the word

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Speaker 1: all over Princeton, North Carolina. I didn't even know, Clay, Honestly,

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Speaker 1: did you know there was a Princeton, North Carolina before?

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Speaker 1: Or I only knew about the one in New Jersey.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I did know there was a Princeton,

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Speaker 1: North Carolina.

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Speaker 2: So we're learning.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, North Carolina one of the battleground states.

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Speaker 3: We've had several callers in the bra in North Carolina

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Speaker 3: who's been talking about that, and I just I really

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Speaker 3: do find it interesting. I understand. Let me say, in

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty, it felt like the world was coming undone,

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Speaker 3: and if you were a swing voter, I understand how

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Speaker 3: you could say the Trump chaos, COVID everything felt like

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Speaker 3: it was coming undone, the riots. I understand how you

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Speaker 3: could buy into Biden saying I'll make things normal again.

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Speaker 3: It's not going to be chaotic. I don't understand how

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Speaker 3: after four years of Biden being awful, prices up on everything.

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Speaker 3: Basically all of us got big pay decreases because you've

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Speaker 3: had to make like twenty five percent more over the

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Speaker 3: last four years to be in positive territory. I don't

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Speaker 3: understand how you could vote Biden now if you're a

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Speaker 3: swing voter. I'm not talking about a diehard Democrat. He

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Speaker 3: hasn't fulfilled any of the promises that he made to me,

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Speaker 3: So I don't understand how you could buy in.

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Speaker 1: Now, that's what I'm trying to get past when we

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Speaker 1: had some of these callers, and I suppose this has

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Speaker 1: to be reflected in some of the undecided sentiment in

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Speaker 1: the Swing States. Voted Trump then felt like, Oh, the

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Speaker 1: world's crazy Biden. You know, I obviously I don't agree

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Speaker 1: with that, because I voted Trump twice and I think

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Speaker 1: that Biden's horrible. But at least I can see the

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Speaker 1: train of logic. But with that in mind, voted Trump,

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Speaker 1: voted Biden. Voting Trump again to me seems like the

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Speaker 1: obvious and inevitable decision. Do you know what I'm saying? Yes, Like,

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Speaker 1: if you've ever gone Trump and then you went Biden,

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Speaker 1: I can't imagine you go Biden again based on again,

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Speaker 1: you know, people that have gone Biden twice, that doesn't

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Speaker 1: count Trump Biden, you gotta go Trump again. I don't

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Speaker 1: see how, Like, I just don't see how the why,

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Speaker 1: you know, the the synapses in the brain don't fire

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Speaker 1: in that direction.

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Speaker 3: Again, you bought into I'll bring things back to normalcy,

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Speaker 3: and then Biden has failed to do that across the board,

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Speaker 3: if you're not a diehard Democrat. And again, we've been

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Speaker 3: taking calls from people who voted Biden or Trump and

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Speaker 3: are going to swing back and forth, and there is

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Speaker 3: there are millions of people out there. I don't and

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Speaker 3: I love talking. I love the fact that there are

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Speaker 3: people who are undecided like that, twenty one year old caller.

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Speaker 3: Twenty two year old caller from North Carolina said.

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Speaker 1: Well, I love that we're like the special forces of

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Speaker 1: freedom spreading here on the airwaves because you know, we

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Speaker 1: got we're forced multipliers. Now. He's like, I listen to

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Speaker 1: you guys, and I totally get it, and I'm all

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Speaker 1: in on the team. And that's what we're hoping for

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Speaker 1: anybody who is not already on the team. That's what

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Speaker 1: we're hoping to accomplish day in and day out.

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Speaker 3: And I would also add he said he felt some pressure,

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Speaker 3: which I get to vote Biden because there was a

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Speaker 3: lot of pressure in the larger cultural universe.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you, when I was a single guy, before

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Speaker 1: I was involved in politics, I maybe dabbled in a

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Speaker 1: little on libertarian when I was at cocktail parties because

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Speaker 1: I wanted to have friends. I'm just gonna tell you.

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Speaker 1: I was like, eh, I'm kind of a libertarian. I'm

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Speaker 1: sort of, you know, fiscally conservative, but socially liberal because

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Speaker 1: like you know, if you want you know miss so

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Speaker 1: and So's phone number, I get it, you.

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Speaker 5: Know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying this was a long time ago, and

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry it ever happened. But that's that's the truth.

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Speaker 2: When you're a single guy. I've made that. I've made

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Speaker 2: this argument.

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Speaker 3: Before you give me ugly conservative or liberal good looking girl,

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Speaker 3: I'll roll the dice that I can convince a liberal

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Speaker 3: good looking girl down the line that she you can't

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Speaker 3: change the ugly. I say it as a single guy

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Speaker 3: ugly sticking the politics might shift.

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Speaker 1: Hey, you know, if you're a single guy and you

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Speaker 1: want to get to that first date, you know your politics,

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Speaker 1: maybe you change them up for a day or two,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Just you gotta do what

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Speaker 1: then to your point, you can start slipping her some

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Speaker 1: some books by von Mises and uh Hayek and Burke,

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Speaker 1: and you know what I mean, you get you can

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Speaker 1: slowly start to try to bring her around. But really,

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Speaker 3: I agree, Uh by the way we come back, we'll

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Speaker 3: take some more of your call. Still, no jury verdict

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Speaker 3: Welcome back in Clay, Travis Buck Sexton Show, Three Hours

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Speaker 3: No Result. Are we gonna be on Jury Watch for

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Speaker 3: three more hours on Friday? We've never had these shows

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Speaker 3: like this where you just constantly hit refresh on your phone.

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Speaker 3: You don't know what's gonna happen from one moment to

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Speaker 3: the next. Let's take a couple of calls. We'll close

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Speaker 3: it out again.

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Speaker 2: I say it. I said it.

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Speaker 3: We started the show. Longer this goes on, I think

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Speaker 3: the better the chances are of a hung jury. Shane

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Speaker 3: in Buffalo, he wants to correct me. What you got for.

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Speaker 5: Us, Hey, Clay, Yeah, I want to correct you and

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Speaker 5: pick on you. You said there had never been an election

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Speaker 5: like this, but you're forgetting about the all important election

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Speaker 5: of eighteen ninety two where Benjamin Harrison went against former

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Speaker 5: President Cleveland and Cleveland beat him.

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Speaker 1: It was just like this one.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, I will say, I said, I believe if

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Speaker 3: you check the transcript in any of our lives, unless

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Speaker 3: there is someone listening right now who was alive in

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Speaker 3: eighteen ninety two, which I believe the math would be impossible,

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Speaker 3: then none of our lives have we ever had an

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Speaker 3: election between And I still appreciate you calling into correct Clay,

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Speaker 3: So thank you for bringing this historical note to our attention.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Yes, but yes, I did I think if you checked

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Speaker 3: the transcript. I am aware because I did get that wrong.

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Speaker 3: Like a year ago, when we started talking about the

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Speaker 3: possibility of a double incumbent effectively presidential run and the rematch,

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Speaker 3: Howard in Orlando, Florida.

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Speaker 2: What you got for us? Hey, how you guys doing great?

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Speaker 10: I driving down the road. I'm listening to these guys

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Speaker 10: that are on the fence, and my head's ready to explode.

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Speaker 10: I mean, it's just, how can you compare Trump and

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Speaker 10: Biden in one another?

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Speaker 11: Four years of Biden? I understand, I don't like everything

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Speaker 11: Trump says, and a lot of people don't, but for

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Speaker 11: crying out loud man, his policies, the way he handles

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Speaker 11: the country, even the foreign policy, it's just so heads

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Speaker 11: and shoulders above what Joe Biden can even do in

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Speaker 11: his best day.

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Speaker 1: Well, Howard, I mean, we clearly agree with you, but

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Speaker 1: we're trying to get inside the head of those who

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Speaker 1: don't somehow see it that way. And like we said,

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Speaker 1: the condition here, the precondition is having voted for Trump

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Speaker 1: before now seeing Biden. How can you not see that

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Speaker 1: it's got to be a Trump vote again? That's the

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Speaker 1: And Howard, I'm with you. I am utterly befuddled that

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Speaker 1: that is not an obvious move. But you know, when

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Speaker 1: we're talking about the difference of fifty thousand or one hundred,

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Speaker 1: that we got a three hundred and forty million people

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Speaker 1: in the country. However, many illegals. We have three hundred

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Speaker 1: and forty million and one hundred thousand people are going

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Speaker 1: to determine the election. There are one hundred thousand fence

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Speaker 1: sitters out there. There's actually a lot more than one

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Speaker 1: hundred thousand fence sitters out there, So gotta figure this

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Speaker 1: one out.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know what I would just point out

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Speaker 3: is and this is why I always thought that Trump

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Speaker 3: twenty sixteen stolen election lie was so unfortunate because it

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Speaker 3: missed what it was, the big story, even the argument

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Speaker 3: that Trump was racist in twenty sixteen, millions of people

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Speaker 3: out there, and I bet some of you are listening

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Speaker 3: to us right now voted for Obama and now vote

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Speaker 3: for Trump. I'm one of them, by the way, I'm

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Speaker 3: one of them. I'm you have somebody sitting on this

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Speaker 3: show who admits to that, right, I bet some of

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Speaker 3: you also are the exact same. What are you raising

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Speaker 3: your hand?

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Speaker 2: What you got?

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Speaker 1: Do we have a vote?

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Speaker 2: No? It's just just like oh no.

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Speaker 1: No, no, I'm just getting oh no, it's not the verdict.

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Speaker 1: I'm just getting blown up everywhere about the call the

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Speaker 1: on the fence callers people are so mad about but

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Speaker 1: I'm getting I'm getting tweets and text messages and emails like, oh,

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Speaker 1: they're just so guys. We got to push them to

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Speaker 1: the right side of the fence. So I think this

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Speaker 1: is a good place to have that conversation and try

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Speaker 1: to be like, Hey, I understand maybe you don't love

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Speaker 1: all the tweets about Mica or whatever that Trump did,

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Speaker 1: but I don't know. A booming economy and peace and

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Speaker 1: action to secure the border and the beginning of a wall,

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Speaker 1: and I think there's a lot of really good stuff.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, we'll keep telling everybody, Clay, We'll

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Speaker 1: keep spreading the good news.

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Speaker 3: No doubt. We'll see the verdict. Watch continues. Maybe we'll

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Speaker 3: get a verdict.

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Speaker 1: Oh just kidding, No, nothing, three

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Speaker 3: More hours tomorrow, we'll see Veric to watch twenty four