1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: And now move the Sticks with Daniel, Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: What's up everybody walking to move the sticks? DJ? Bucky 3 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: with you right now? And Buck. I thought at the 4 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: start of the show this sun planned, but I want 5 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: to have a contest with you. Um. No Bill, our producer, 6 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: had his birthday December seven, So if we go based 7 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 1: off of our knowledge of No Bill, Um, let's go, 8 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: let's guess what time the Bill went to bed on 9 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: his birthday evening. I'll give you the first guess at 10 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: it hare Bucky um birthday evening the Bill? Uh? No, 11 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: Bill is still kind of a youngster, so I'm thinking 12 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: is probably the life you know, DJ, I'm thinking it 13 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: might have been a four am day for new Bill. 14 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: I think the Bill might have been Yep, that's a 15 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: good guess. I'm gonna say. I'm gonna I'm gonna go 16 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: to thirty. I'm gonna say to thirty is when he 17 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: got that night wrapped up? Here to Bill, you want 18 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:00,040 Speaker 1: to jump on our ear and tell me what you 19 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: what you did here? What time you went to bed? 20 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 1: Eleven thirty pm? Are you buying that? I don't. I 21 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: don't buy that. Yeah, I would, I would I would 22 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: screw up his social media and just kind of check 23 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: and see if they verify that, because those things a 24 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 1: time stamp. When he takes Instagram, there's some tweets, the 25 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: stories and all that other stuff like That's what I 26 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: would do to make sure that he's being on the 27 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: up and up, because I just can't imagine that guy 28 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 1: being around at eleven thirty. No way, nohow no, no. 29 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: Probably have to go on Snapchat though, and that's not 30 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,479 Speaker 1: our forte so we'll never know how that went down 31 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: there with the bile eleven thirty not buying it. Um 32 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: all right, A lot to get to today. We got 33 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: we want to talk about Baker Mayfield, his new situation 34 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: with the Rams. They have a Thursday night game. We 35 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: might see him in action tonight. Getta hit on that 36 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 1: a little bit. You've got a great article out looking 37 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: back at the quarterback class. It's a good time to 38 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: do it, as Herbert and two are going to square 39 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: off on Sunday Night football. Also throwing in the mix there, 40 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts what he's done, as well as Joe Burrow, 41 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: who was the first pick in that draft. You've kind 42 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,040 Speaker 1: of gone back and reranked those guys. So that'll be 43 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: a fun discussion. Then we'll take a peek at the 44 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: end here on the on the college football playoff what 45 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: we're looking forward to there. But let's start. First of all, 46 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 1: I was thinking of you because you've long kind of 47 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: uh espoused the theory, the Al Davis mantra of don't 48 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: quit on talent, and if you get guys that were 49 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: high draft picks in one place, collect them all and 50 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: we're gonna give him another shot, with the theory being 51 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 1: they were high picked for a reason. With that in mind, 52 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: I would imagine you're in favor of this move. Doesn't 53 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: cost him hardly anything here for the Rams. No, Like, 54 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: here's the thing, Like, regardless of what I may think 55 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: about Baker Mayfield as a player, he was a former 56 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 1: number one overall pick, he has had some level of 57 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 1: success in the National Football League. You're getting him at 58 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 1: a huge discount to finish the rest of the season. 59 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: And so if you are a guy who looks at 60 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield and you liked the talent and you believe 61 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: that he could thrive in your system, yeah, it's look 62 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: a no risk deal to bring him in, particularly because 63 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: you've seen him play in a similar system in Cleveland. 64 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: So to bring him in as a backup quarterback right now, 65 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 1: he's an upgrade over what you have in John Woolford. 66 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: And so I know this too that on Thursday Night 67 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,959 Speaker 1: is a tough deal if he has to play, But man, 68 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: to get a guy of that caliber as a backup quarterback, 69 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 1: you have to do it because if he does turn 70 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: out to be someone that you have value in, you're 71 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: still gonna be able to resign him at a huge 72 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: discount to back up Matthew Stafford. To me, this was 73 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: a no lose proposition for the l A Rams and 74 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: gives him an opportunity to upgrade the quarterback room while 75 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: also seeing if this player still has some value either 76 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: for them or for someone else down the line. When 77 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: we give me my off the wall comment on this 78 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: one totally out of left field, but I was just 79 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: thinking about this when he signed with l A. Like. 80 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: I hope for Baker's sake that this works out and 81 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: he's gonna get an opportunity and he will extend out 82 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: his career. But Buck, I've joked about it, and I 83 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: don't know where you are on this, but I think 84 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield's the best acting quarterback in that I've ever seen. 85 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: And we can look at the commercials with Peyton Manning, 86 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: which you're great, and Tom Brady can do his thing. 87 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: I think I think he's nails. I did this. Dude 88 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: could legitimately act and being an actor. And now he's 89 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. You get a little free time. Uh 90 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: if you do end up being the backup quarterback, they're 91 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: going forward, dabble a little bit. Let's get Baker some 92 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: more work here. The commercials have been outstanding, so let's 93 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: give m a a little more. I mean, why not? I 94 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: mean that is part of it. He's gonna have some 95 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: downtime when the season is over. Off season players, I 96 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: know he he tends to like l A. You're talking 97 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 1: about the work that he was able to do with 98 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,559 Speaker 1: all of those commercials. Yeah, he can dibble and dabble 99 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: and no matter what, no matter what people may say 100 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: about his NFL career, he's a Heisman Trophy winner and 101 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: then always carries some cachet because even watching him do 102 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:37,239 Speaker 1: to Heisman house and that's he's funny. He's legit funny. 103 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: He has timing. Why not? You now can be an 104 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: intern out here in La La Yeah, no, I like that. 105 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: It's a little it's a little bonus for him being 106 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: out in Los Angeles. Um, when you look at this 107 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: Rams team, I know we've talked about it previously, and 108 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: we talked about how maybe they could tear it down 109 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 1: and try and build it back and change course, change 110 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: philosophy a little bit. I know there's some pushback on 111 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: that because of all the injuries and now they can 112 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 1: just get healthy, uh, then they can make a runa 113 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: you foresee a future where you know, Baker Mayfield ends 114 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: up being that guy for them. I mean maybe it's 115 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: you know, matt matt Stafford, if you don't want to 116 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 1: play anymore or you know, injuries in the future, is 117 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: this something you would you would aggressively try and work 118 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: something out with him to try and get him on 119 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: backup money and have that as your insurance plan. Well, 120 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: I think so, because I think a lot of it 121 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: depends on how do you feel internally about Matthew Stafford. 122 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford has accomplished everything that you can accomplish in 123 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: the National Football League. Now with the tail then of 124 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: his career, maybe he's getting beat up a little bit. 125 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: Maybe he doesn't want to go through that anymore. You know, 126 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: if they cut his season short, which appears that's what 127 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: they're going to do. Now, you need to start having 128 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: a backup plan in place. Is Baker Mayfield that guy 129 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: because he played in a similar system, you think about 130 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,239 Speaker 1: bringing him back. Maybe you sign him to a Chase 131 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: Daniel like deal where you keep him in the fold 132 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 1: and he's the guy that is next up. Because when 133 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: you don't have first round picks in the next couple 134 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 1: of years, you have to figure out, if Matthew Stafford departs, 135 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: how are we going to sustain this level success with 136 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: a quarterback? Can we worked with Baker Mayfield. I think 137 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 1: these next four or five weeks opportunity for Sean McVeigh 138 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: to see how he works with Baker Mayfield, to see 139 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: how Baker Mayfield works within the team, see how Baker 140 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 1: Mayfield flourishes within the system. I think all those things 141 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: have more than just a two in mind. There still 142 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: has to be a little twenty four uh in the 143 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: conversation when you're looking at Baker Mayfield with the Rams, 144 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: I think they certainly are gonna kick the ties and 145 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: see if he does have a future for them, maybe 146 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: as a long term QB one with Stafford does eventually 147 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: hang him up. Here's a question for you, when you 148 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: consider all things, all things involved here, health being a 149 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: big part of it. Is it crazy to say that 150 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks with Gino Smith have kind of the 151 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: most stable quarterback room right now inside this division as 152 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: you as you look in the next year. Absolutely, as 153 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: crazy as it may seem, DJ, the Seattle Crs are 154 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: a couple of wins away from Geno Smith entering the 155 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 1: m v P conversation. Like as crazy as that sounded 156 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: prior to the season, Geno Smith is absolutely played at 157 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: a high level for the Seattle Seahawks, and this team 158 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: is competing for a playoff worth No one expected that. 159 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: And then when you think about the angevia Jimmy Garoppolo, 160 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,679 Speaker 1: the uncertainty with Matthew Stafford and Nam Biking Mayfield, Calin 161 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: Murray and what could go on with the Arizona Cardinals. Yeah, 162 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: if you're Pete Carolin John Snider, you look around and say, 163 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: you know what, pretty good about what we have. I 164 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: feel pretty good about Geno Smith being a solution, even 165 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: if it's short term. And I don't know if anyone 166 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: anybody would have said that prior to this year, tack 167 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: No that was gonna be the most unstable one guaranteed 168 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: to be in the quarterback market. They got extra picks 169 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: in the Russell Wilson trade. They're gonna need him because 170 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: they don't have their quarterback in the organization. So there's 171 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: so much up in the air there, and you come 172 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: into the season thinking, Okay, you've got Stafford coming off 173 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: of a super Bowl where he played outstanding, Well, now 174 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: he's been hurt. You've got Kyler Murray who gets all 175 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: the money, well his play hasn't been great. And you've 176 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: got some turmoil there within that organization. So that's kind 177 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: of a mess. You think, okay, well San Francisco, they're 178 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: going to hand the reins off to Trey Lance. He 179 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: gets hurt, so then you go back to Garoppolo and 180 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: now he gets hurt. So going in next year, you 181 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: know who's that guy going to be? You know, you 182 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: think Trey Lance is gonna get another shot to be 183 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: that guy, but there's no guarantees there. Uh, just bizarre 184 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: that Seattle has has kind of landed in this spot 185 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: where they have a stable quarterback room and now they've 186 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: got a boatload of picks that I don't know they 187 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: necessarily need to address that position. I don't think anybody 188 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: saw that coming at all except maybe, I mean maybe 189 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll Josh Schneider did. But I bet you buck 190 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 1: if you gave him truth serum. I don't think they 191 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: thought Gina would play at this high of a level. No, 192 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: and you just never know. I mean we really hadn't 193 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: seen anything like this. I mean, did Gino Smith story, Uh, 194 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: not to this level. But it's very similar to rich Gannon. 195 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: I mean, you talk about a player that goes he 196 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: languages for a long time. Did he finally gets an 197 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: opportunity And what he finds is he finds a team 198 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: and a system that perfectly fit his talent, and now 199 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: he's flourishing. The team loves him because he's matured enough 200 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: that he's a nice leader and he understands exactly what's 201 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 1: expected of him and it works, and because his ego 202 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: is out of it, and because the team is kind 203 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: of back to playing the way that Pete Carroll has 204 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,959 Speaker 1: always wanted to play. Yeah, it works. And I also 205 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: can see Pete Carroll liking Gino because right now he's 206 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: not having any issues with the quarterback, there's not this 207 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: tug Award playing style and what we should do and 208 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 1: how we should do it, and that everyone is heading 209 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 1: in the right direction. And as a head coach, man, 210 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: you certainly like those days particularly you have success, no doubt. 211 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: Interesting stuff. Man, all right, we're gonna take a quick break. 212 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: We're gonna come back. We're gonna look at the class 213 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: of quarterbacks which has been a really good group and 214 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: a lot of ebbs and flows with who's who would 215 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: you rather have as they've kind of gone through their careers. 216 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 1: Bucky has wrote a great article on this. We're gonna 217 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 1: dig into that right after this break. Draft class Buck 218 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: was a great quarterback raft class. If you want to 219 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: go back into time here that is. Joe Burrow was 220 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 1: the first off the board, followed by tah Um, followed 221 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 1: by Herbert. We had Jordan's Love go late in the 222 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: first round. Uh, then you had Jalen Hurts uh come 223 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: off the board. So big time, big time dudes here. 224 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: Uh in this draft class, at least a few of them. Here, 225 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: you've gone back and you've identified how you would rank them, 226 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 1: and then you've also identified their superpower. So I'll give 227 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: you the floor here and you can uh and let 228 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: us sit on this thing. You know, DJ, everyone compares 229 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: the best quarterback classes in the draft to the nineteen 230 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: three quarterback class when you have John Elway and Reno 231 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,719 Speaker 1: and all those guys came through Jim Kelly and it 232 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: was a magical class. You see the Hall of famers 233 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 1: come out of there. When you look at this class, 234 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: the class, you talk about some legitimate players that appear 235 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: to be on that path to also maybe getting the 236 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: gold jacket at the end of their career. So we 237 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: talked about Justine Herbert and Joe Burrow. Now the emergence 238 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: of Jaen Hursts. He to a talk about Loa beginning 239 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: to play at a high level. I thought it would 240 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: be the perfect time. Let's go back and look at 241 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: the class now that we've seen them play and maybe 242 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,599 Speaker 1: re stacked the board. And so I'll go back and 243 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: I'll talk about number one and the number one I 244 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,719 Speaker 1: think the guy who has really emerged is maybe the 245 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: best quarterback of the class. When it comes to the prototypes. 246 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: Let's talk about Justin Herbert, and you get a chance 247 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: to see him every week. But DJ, when I look 248 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: at Herbert, he is everything that you want at the position. 249 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: You talk about the size, you talk about the arm talent, 250 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: you talk about the pedigree. When it comes to playing 251 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: the position the right way, he does all of those things, 252 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: and the numbers are just ridiculous. I'm sitting here looking 253 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: he has already passed Andrew Look for the most three 254 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 1: r passing games in the first three seasons of NFL history. 255 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 1: He is fourth and passing yards in time for seventh 256 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: in the NFL, and passing touchdowns and he hasn't had 257 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: his full compliment of weapons all of the time. And 258 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: so when you think about that, you think about how 259 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: he plays the position. To me, it's a no brainer. 260 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: You can't find guys with this kind of arm talent. 261 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:00,319 Speaker 1: Ye rare, rare talent. And I go back, you're going 262 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: through these buck y'all. I'll tell you where I had 263 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: him coming into the draft and what I said about 264 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 1: him and kind of in my notes there, and you 265 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: can kind of see how these guys have have grown 266 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: with Herbert, he was my third quarterback in that class 267 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: behind Burrow into a uh talked about the size of 268 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:18,079 Speaker 1: mobility arm strength big time. While Throws I thought his 269 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: front side did fly open, which could impact his accuracy. 270 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 1: You can use him in the QB run game the negatives. 271 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: You know, it's a little bit robotic and he'll guide 272 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,599 Speaker 1: the ball. I think the robotics stuff has kind of 273 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 1: come out of his game to a degree. You've seen 274 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 1: the more of a playmaker side of him that maybe 275 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: we saw in college with what he's done, and you 276 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: nailed it with you know the impact of not having 277 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: guys healthy around him this year when you're missing your 278 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: all pro left tackle, you missed your right tackle Trey 279 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: Pipkins for a few games as well, Corey Linsley, You're 280 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: all pro centers missed a bunch of time. Keenan Allen, 281 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 1: Mike Williams basically haven't played together the whole year, so 282 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 1: he hasn't had his guys. So I think people are 283 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: looking at the numbers this year and taking a dip 284 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: and saying, oh, is he kind of as he reached 285 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:58,839 Speaker 1: his potential? If we've seen the best of Justin Herbert, 286 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 1: even though it's really good, there's nothing left for him 287 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:03,959 Speaker 1: to do in terms of growth now. I think once 288 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: the pieces are in place around him and stay healthy, 289 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:07,559 Speaker 1: I think you can see him take it to a 290 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: whole another level and talent wise, just pure talent. I'm 291 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: with you on that in terms of his talent, making 292 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,079 Speaker 1: him the most talented of this group. Yeah, so that's 293 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: the tough thing because the next day is Joe Burrow. Right, 294 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow is the number one overall. Big Joe Burrows 295 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:22,319 Speaker 1: already let his team to the super Bowl. But the 296 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: difference is this is a beauty padget. So if you're 297 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,839 Speaker 1: asking me as a scout, what would I prefer. Oh, 298 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with bigger, faster, stronger. And so that's 299 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: why Justin Herbert gets denied because he also has the 300 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,199 Speaker 1: production to back it up. But make no mistake about it, 301 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow is the deal, or as the young kids say, 302 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow is him, and he is him because his 303 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: processing speed, his ability to play the game quick, to 304 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: play it like a point guard running the floor on 305 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 1: a fast break. That's what makes you love him. Because 306 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: when I look at the Cincinnati beingers, I look at 307 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: the weapons that they have around him, Jamaar Chase, Tyler, 308 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: boy Te Higgins, Joe Mixing. He has everything that you 309 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 1: can want, and he does a eight job of distributing 310 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 1: the ball to his playmakers, letting them go to work. 311 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: But it's not only that part of his game, right, 312 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 1: It's not about the playmaking, it's not about the production. 313 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: To me, the best part of his game is the swag, 314 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: the confidence, the composure, the poise that he brings to 315 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: the field. That has changed the franchise for the Cincinnati Bengals. 316 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: They went from a downtrodden franchise that look they were 317 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: hoping to win games too. Now they expect to win games. 318 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: In fact, not only did they expect to gain they 319 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: went to a Super Bowl last year. I think right 320 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: now you could say that maybe they should be the 321 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: front runner to go back to back and representing the 322 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: a f C. And a lot of that is due 323 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: to number nine. Joe Burrow is the real deal. Yeah, 324 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: he was my top quarterback coming to that draft class. 325 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: I go back and look at my notes buck, you know, accuracy, 326 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: football intelligence, pocket awareness, big time swagger. Um. I didn't 327 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: think he had a huge arm, but I had written 328 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: down a note which somebody had given me. I don't 329 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: remember who was with a culture if it was Jordan 330 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: Palmer had been training him, but said, this is the 331 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: kind of guy you're gonna you're gonna think he's very 332 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: average at the driving range and he's gonna go out 333 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: and shoot sixty eight on the golf course. Um, that's 334 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: kind of how he is. And he's just you know, 335 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: it's an overused phrase, it's a cliche, but he's a winner. 336 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: And what I mean by that and winning moments when 337 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: you need winning plays, he delivers. Um. He's done that 338 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: with the Cincinnati Bengals during his career, as you mentioned, 339 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: getting them within a whisker of a World championship last year. 340 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: So I can't argue with anybody that would say, you know, 341 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: you start all over with this draft, that you would 342 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: go with the guy who's already been in the Super Bowl. 343 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: I can't place an argument there based off what Joe 344 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: Burrow has accomplished so far in his career. Buck, No, 345 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: you can't DJ. And you know what I love about 346 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: doing these exercises with you is it goes back and 347 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: there's so much to be learned from looking back at 348 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: how you graded uh players and prospects and how they 349 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: ultimately performed. And so the first two guys we talked 350 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: about more of your classic traditional quarterbacks, Joe Burrow justin 351 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: Herbert like they're the guys that you normally see man 352 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: in the position. Jalen Hurts is different. Jalen Hurts to 353 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: me has probably been where I would say the biggest 354 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: learning opportunity has come for me. And the reason why 355 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: is because so much of what we do is we 356 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: put all the emphasis on the traits and how they 357 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: throw it in their size and all that, and I 358 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: don't know if we look at the intangibles enough. And 359 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: when I look at Jalen Hurts, it is the intangible 360 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: qualities that he brings to the quarterback position that have 361 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: made him. I'm gonna say this made him a great player. 362 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: He is going from average to good, good to great 363 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: this year. He's playing at the m v P level. 364 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: And part of the reason why is because he gets it. 365 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: His connectivity with his teammates, the chemistry that he has 366 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: within that offense, and the toughness and grit, the residency 367 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: that he's brought to the Eagles. It fits the team. 368 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, he's a good athlete, so 369 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: he's added a running element to the offense and he's 370 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: an ever improving passer. This guy has been the biggest 371 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: wild card in his draft class. For him to be 372 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: slotted behind Burrow and Herbert Man. We could have taken 373 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: these eyes and going to veigs and been millionaires, because 374 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody saw this he was coming out. Yeah, 375 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: he was my fifth guy. And if you remember in 376 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 1: that draft, um, we had had that discussion when I 377 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 1: put out my last one fifty, I said, Buck, there's 378 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: one player that I don't have in my top fifty 379 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: and it keeps me up at night because I feel 380 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 1: like I'm gonna regret it. And it was Jalen Hurts. 381 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: And so I put him in my top fifty at 382 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: the very end as my fiftieth guy. And and the 383 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 1: notes on here gun a lot of his own reads 384 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 1: quick game, Um, he's got excellent velocity. Um, question the 385 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: vision and the anticipation. His feet can be a little 386 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 1: bit late to follow his eyes. I wrote, Dak Prescott, 387 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: question mark, could this be a Dak Prescott type player? 388 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 1: But as we had said at the time, you know 389 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: the stuff that he didn't have, you know, it was 390 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: a focus. And when you take the focus off what 391 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: he didn't have and you focus on the arm strength, 392 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 1: the athleticism, the intelligence that competes the work ethic, like 393 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: you just put all that stuff together and you're like, 394 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: you bet on those guys, they're gonna figure out the 395 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 1: other stuff. And he's worked his way into being a 396 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: better passer. He's worked on connecting his eyes with his feet. 397 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 1: He has gotten better in those departments. And I think, 398 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: while maybe folks don't think about these guys in the 399 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: same vein, I think that's like the Josh Allen Lesson 400 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: right when we talked about that. Does he have it 401 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 1: all figured out? No, But the the intangibles are so 402 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 1: good and he has all of the physical tools. Those 403 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 1: guys figure it out. Man, they do figure it out. 404 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: And he goes back to like this little nugget that 405 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: I learned from this book by Jim Collins talks about 406 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 1: good too great, and the number one thing you talked 407 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: about when you turn around then organization First is the who, 408 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,120 Speaker 1: then the what. You get the right people on the bus, 409 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 1: then you figure out where the location is. And he 410 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 1: is the right person. And so when you think about 411 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: the intangible qualities, the characteristics that you have to have 412 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 1: to be successful, he embodies it. And so I'm not 413 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: surprised by the Philadelphia Eagle success because the guy who 414 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 1: is leading the team is built the right way. That's 415 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,640 Speaker 1: why the Eagles are flourishing. That's also why he's playing 416 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: at the m v P level. But let's go the 417 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: last quarterback on the list. Who's the fourth guy who 418 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: a lot of people like. It's such a polarizing prospect 419 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 1: to talking about loa uh to talking about Layer is 420 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: fourth and I have him behind jail and hurts just 421 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: because he doesn't have the track record of production that 422 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: the other guys have. But this year, let us know 423 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 1: why we really liked him in the beginning. This year's 424 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 1: let us know why there was a taint for to 425 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 1: a campaign that floated in fan bases around the NFL. 426 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: Because this guy can deal. He's a distributor. I think 427 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 1: you've talked about him being the casino dealer at the 428 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: blackjack table, just slinging cards around when you're surround him 429 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: with playmakers, allow him to throw r p O s 430 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: and quit game. There are a few better, which is 431 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: why he leaves the league in completion percentage, why he 432 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 1: ranks as one of the top guys when it comes 433 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: to passer rating, Because now the Miami Dolphins have not 434 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: only put him in a system that plays to his strengths, 435 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: they've surrounded him with the right kind of weapons to 436 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 1: allow him to do his deal. Yeah, we can talk 437 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 1: about that. Is it the weapons, is it him? Is 438 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 1: he a truck or a trailer? I don't know, But 439 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: what I do know this year he's bowling out of control. 440 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: So I want to give him his flowers. No, I 441 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 1: go back and look at it. Buck had him as 442 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 1: the second quarterback in that draft. That's the first note 443 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: I have on there. He's a card dealer because everything 444 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: he does is at his best RPOs. Get the ball 445 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 1: out and just think of Vegas dealer just shooting those 446 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: cards across the table so quick with how he you 447 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: know how he sees quick feet, quick guys, quick arm, 448 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: RPOs specialist. He throws the firm base. He can manipulate safeties. 449 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: We've seen a lot of that this year. You know, 450 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:21,439 Speaker 1: the injury. I think a lot of people have discounted 451 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 1: and haven't taken that into account. Where where this guy 452 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 1: was hurt coming into the league. That was a little 453 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 1: bit of the adjustment period just getting his legs back 454 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: underneath him after the injuries that he'd suffered. So look, 455 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: they put the right pieces around him. I don't know 456 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: the name of the show, buckets. The it's the Simon 457 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 1: Cowell when I guess in the in Europe or in Britain, 458 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: it was either Britain's Got Talent or X Fact. I 459 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 1: don't remember the name of it, but I do know 460 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: that there was the boy band One Direction that came 461 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 1: over there and they all they all auditioned as individuals 462 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 1: and Simon Kali said, you know what, you guys need 463 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:53,959 Speaker 1: to be a group. I'm gonna put you guys all 464 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 1: together and then as a group they've you know, they 465 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 1: wanted to have success. I know they've since branched off, 466 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 1: but at the whole point, being two is not an 467 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: individual to what needs to be with a group. You 468 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 1: gotta put him with some other guys. When you put 469 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: them with other guys, they make sweet music. Man, but 470 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 1: he's not a you know, he's not Herbert and that 471 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: you could take Herbert and throw him anywhere and he's 472 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 1: going to be successful. You gotta have the pieces in place. 473 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: That's not a bad thing. That's your job as an organization. 474 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 1: Put the pieces around him and then go make yourself 475 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: some sweet One Direction pop, a little boy band, pop music. 476 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: You know whatever they whatever they do, Oh, it's always 477 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: funny because my son would be so mad if I said, like, 478 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: he's like one of the Avengers, but he doesn't necessarily 479 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: have all the superpowers of the other guys. But if 480 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 1: you put him in the group, he can rock with them. 481 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: And that's what it is. The group Jalen Hurts, Tyreek Hill, 482 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 1: Mike Gaseki, the running backs that they had behind him. 483 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: You surround him with those guys. Oh, he plays like 484 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 1: a superhero. And so that is what we're seeing. What 485 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: we're also seeing and this is the one thing that 486 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: we never can confected in when it comes to the 487 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: evaluation man. The right coach, the right scheme, the right 488 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: guy to kind of breathe confidence into the player makes 489 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 1: a difference. The version of to a Tony about Looyd 490 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: that we're seeing on the Mike McDaniel is a different 491 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: version in the one we saw on the Brian Floores 492 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 1: and Company. Part of that is because Mike McDaniels made 493 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 1: a concerted effort to make sure that toa knows that 494 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: he believes in him, showed him seven hundred of his 495 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 1: throws and and and it kept reiterating, you are a dude. 496 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: This is why you were a dude. Man. That confidence 497 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: is everything and is one of the reasons why he's 498 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: playing well, but also why these other guys are playing 499 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: well because they have advocates in their corner. You can't 500 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: underestimate that advocacy and how important to do this to 501 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 1: your success. Maybe he's Harry Styles, maybe needed the group, 502 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 1: and then eventually he breaks off from the group, and 503 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: then he's a he's a star doing movies and all 504 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 1: the other crap that he's done. You know, I know 505 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 1: way too much about He's gonna kill my credibility when 506 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 1: this one direction stuff. All right, that's it. Let's say 507 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 1: let's cut it right there, stop right there before I 508 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 1: get myself any more trouble. We're gonna take a break. 509 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: We're gonna come back and look at the college football playoff. 510 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: Will dig into that right after this. NFL Plus is here, 511 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: which means no matter where you are, this is how 512 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: you football. You can stream live local and prime time 513 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 1: games on your phone or tablet, forty five minute game 514 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: replays with NFL Plus Premium, and more. This is the 515 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 1: NFL for every fan. This is football freedom. This is 516 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: George Game on the go. Go to Plus dot NFL 517 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: dot com and sign up now, DJ, this is one 518 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,640 Speaker 1: of my favorite times a year. We're now in bowls season, 519 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: and I know some of the bowls have been diminished, 520 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: but the one thing that everyone always pays attention to 521 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: is a college football playoff. We've got great matchup because 522 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: we have TCU in Michigan. We've got Georgia taken Ohio State. 523 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: Let's tag and dig into that little TCU Michigan matchup. 524 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: What are you excited about? What are you looking for? 525 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: What do you want to see? Well? I want to see, 526 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: uh this Michigan front. You know, last year much was 527 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: made about Ojabo and Hutchinson and then once they moved on, 528 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 1: there's gonna be nothing left for this Michigan group. I 529 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 1: actually think they're pretty darn good up front. Again, they've 530 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 1: got size, are enormous a defensive tackle. Um so, can 531 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,199 Speaker 1: they control and dominate the game there? And and they 532 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: get some of that interior push on Max Duggan just 533 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 1: kind of make him uncomfortable. UM. That to me, I 534 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 1: think will be a big key in this ball game. 535 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: If they can do that. I think Michigan just has 536 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 1: more guys. I'm kind of leaning in that direction for 537 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: them to be able to pull this thing off. But 538 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: again I thought, remember last year, everybody's saying, oh they 539 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 1: you know, those two guys leave and their defense is 540 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: gonna kind of fall apart. Not not so fast, not 541 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: so fast at all. I think the big thing for 542 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 1: me when I look at Michigan is just the way 543 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: that Jim Harba has built this team. And I think 544 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 1: he has built this team to eventually compete with the 545 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: heavy wast that we talked about when we look at 546 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: Georgia and those things, big, fast, physical, Uh, you see 547 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: their brand of toughness in their play and the fact 548 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 1: that he has turned it around because remember they were 549 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 1: talking people talking about getting rid of Jim Harba. He 550 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: has responded with back to back big t entitles, back 551 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,959 Speaker 1: to back appearances in the College Football Playoff, and they 552 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,439 Speaker 1: have an opportunity to advance to the final if they 553 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: play their style of game. The problem is they play 554 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 1: any scrappy TCU team that has a really nice quarterback. 555 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 1: What do you think about TCU? Well, I mean, look, yeah, 556 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 1: he's he's a fun quarterback and run around and make 557 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: some plays, can do some things. And Johnson on the 558 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: outside a big time receiver. They have a knack of 559 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 1: coming back and making things happen in ball games. I 560 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 1: just I think when you look on the whole Um, 561 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: I just don't know if they're gonna be able to 562 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 1: block these guys up front buck Um, That to me 563 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: would be the would be the biggest question mark for 564 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 1: this group. Yeah, Max Sillgans done a good job of 565 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: bringing them back. I like the toughness, I like to fight. 566 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: I like the way that he is Um kind of 567 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: showing some of that playmaking ability that you want to 568 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 1: see from your quarterback. But I tend to agree with you, man, 569 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a hard matchup just the way that 570 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: Michigan plays. They can kind of lure you into this 571 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: phone booth and you're gonna have to fight your way 572 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,439 Speaker 1: out of it. And I just don't know if they 573 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: have enough big bodies, uh to kind of get with that. 574 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 1: And then on the other side, Georgia, Ohio State, George's 575 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 1: I can't quite call them the Evil Empire yet, but man, 576 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 1: they are kind of the pre eminent program when it 577 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: comes to the talent that they have and the way 578 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: that Kirby Smart had those guys playing. Yeah, I mean 579 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 1: they've got big time, big time dudes. I'll be honest, 580 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to seeing their tight end room um 581 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: and seeing what those guys do out there with factors 582 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 1: in Washington. They're just enormous athletic, they make plays. Um. 583 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: Watching those guys gonna be fun. Um. Ohio State, when 584 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: you look at that group again, I want to see 585 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: Strouds the main attraction there. How does he do He's 586 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: gonna be under pressure, probably, you know, more pressure than 587 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 1: he's seen. I know the tackles from Ohio State have 588 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 1: done the left tackle. I stelf have to do work 589 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: on the right tackle. But they're both NFL guys. UM, 590 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: so that'll be a good fight in the trenches. I 591 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 1: just think Georgia has so many waves of guys they 592 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 1: can throw at you. UM in Ohio State terms of 593 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: slowing those guys down in Michigan throwing all over the 594 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: place on him, I think they have a lot more 595 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: things they can throw at you at Georgia. UM. I 596 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 1: mean I would I would lean heavy in Georgia on 597 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 1: this one. I think we're headed towards Georgia and Michigan 598 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: here in the final. Yeah, that would be interesting because 599 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: Ohio State gets to reprieve, they get a Mulligan having 600 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,080 Speaker 1: a disappointing So in the big game, they now to 601 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: take on a Georgia team that will unduly test their 602 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 1: toughness and so they can answer questions about their toughness 603 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: and those things. I think the big thing and c J. Stroud, 604 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: this is a great evaluation tool for the evaluators to 605 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: see what he looks like against an NFL defense. Last 606 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: year we got a chance to see Bryce Young against 607 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: the defense, and even though there's a year separating, you know, 608 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: people will make the compare contrast with how Bryce Young 609 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,199 Speaker 1: played against Georgia versus how uh c J. Stroud performs 610 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 1: against them, And so to watch him have to deal 611 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: with the size up front, the persistent pressure, but then 612 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 1: the athletes on the outside because the windows will be 613 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,479 Speaker 1: a little tighter. Let's see how c J. Stroud performs 614 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,239 Speaker 1: against those guys. Not saying that he hasn't faced uh 615 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: good competition or great competition in the big tent. It's 616 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: a little different. When you deal him with Georgia, We'll 617 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 1: get a chance to really see the real c J. 618 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: Stroud come out. Yeah, no doubt. Last game. I want 619 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: to get to here before we jump out of here. 620 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: Who do we have in the state championship. Uh, and 621 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 1: I think you're on the road, right, You're heading up 622 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: to northern California here and try and get this title. 623 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 1: Bring it back home. Man, it's a tough one. Man. 624 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: We gotta go on the road. We gotta go to Nuvato. 625 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: We're taking on a really good team in Sam Marin, 626 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 1: a team that is going forward their back to back 627 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: state title. Uh. Really saw the squad. So my guys 628 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 1: got their work cut out for him. We've been going 629 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: to road. See if we can get a dove. See 630 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: I can get it done someway somehow. All right, let's 631 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 1: go Granada Hills. Let's bring this thing home buck again. 632 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 1: It's been fun. One accomplishment for you in the program. 633 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 1: They're excited to follow you, guys. I'll be on Max 634 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 1: Preps checking the scores as I always do on is 635 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: Friday or Saturday? What day we're playing? Saturday? Saturday night, 636 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: six o'clock in the rain? Oh beautiful? Alright, alright, let's 637 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: go get them in the rain. You like to run 638 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: the rock, that's perfect, We'll take it. Let's go get them. 639 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: Let's go get a championship here for the podcast. Let's 640 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: do it, all right, that's gonna do it for us today. 641 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys hanging with us. We'll catch you 642 00:28:48,720 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 1: next week. Right here, I'll move the stick, but I 643 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: go w to w u