1 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, are you ready's about to hit the fan? 2 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 2: Welcome to Unsanctioned Thursdays in Wrestling with Fady. 3 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 3: What's up? Everybody? 4 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 1: Welcome to Unsanctioned Thursdays. The show that you requested, the 5 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 1: show that you got, and this show is going to 6 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: be all about you, the fans of pro wrestling, and 7 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: the interactions that they have with the WWE universe. We 8 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: talked about this a little on our regular show about 9 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: fan participation versus fan takeover. One as good, one is evil, 10 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: and if you're responsible for the evil, you should be 11 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 1: ashamed of yourself. Go call your mother right now and say, 12 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Mom. You tried to raise me right, but 13 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: I just I didn't take to it. I just didn't 14 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: take to it. Some of the stuff is great. The 15 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: most recent example is in Paris. I wish I knew 16 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: what they were singing, but they were singing. I know 17 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: when they I don't know how all the Europeans know 18 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: all the words to the wrestler songs and here I 19 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: am and it's my first language, and I know like 20 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: the first three words to every wrestler song and can't 21 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: understand any of the words after that. 22 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 3: But somehow they can do it. 23 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, cult of Personality. I have no idea. 24 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:22,639 Speaker 4: I have no idea the rest of the words. 25 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: And that's even a cheat because that was like a 26 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: mainstream hit before it was even his song, so you 27 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:28,559 Speaker 1: may have heard it on the radio, so it makes 28 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: it tricky. 29 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 2: They cut to the audience and there's people that are 30 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 2: like kind of like mouthing like, but they don't know 31 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 2: what it is, like. 32 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: The Star Spangled banner, Yeah, exactly, Cult of person. 33 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 2: You're like, yeah, you knew the chorus Edge of Song. 34 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 1: They always know Edge of Song or Adam Copeland now 35 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: in ae. 36 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 3: W, I know on this day, I see clearly. And 37 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 3: then that's all I know from the song. 38 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: And there's Cody Oh, I don't know any of the 39 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: words to Rea's if. 40 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 4: Rheo Ripley's listening. 41 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 2: Listen, you're the biggest star in my opinion, I think 42 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 2: the biggest star of wrestling. That you're gonna be the 43 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 2: biggest future star of women's wrestling. Stop lip syncing to 44 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 2: every lyric as you come down the stop Why I 45 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 2: like it? No, she should be like in wrestling mode. 46 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 2: She's like lipping on. It makes you look like a 47 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 2: high school girl. That's like listening to her radio knowing 48 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 2: all the words to the song. 49 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 1: I see profighters sinking songs when they come down to 50 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: in a UFC fight their lips. 51 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 4: It looks corny. It doesn't matter. 52 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 3: I like it. 53 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 4: Something to think about, Riya, something to work on. 54 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, actually, let's talk about. 55 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 2: Let's talk about it as a wrestler. Listen, how long 56 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 2: has have the USO has been wrestlers? 57 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 3: A long since I worked there? 58 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 4: Okay, and then how long? 59 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of some other guys because I 60 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 2: don't want to just pick on the ussos. 61 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 4: Gosh, I don't know. 62 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 2: So A lot of times wrestler's been a wrestlers their 63 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 2: whole life. They've grown up around wrestling. They've their parents 64 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 2: are wrestling, their uncles are wrestling. They're all like part 65 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 2: of this big wrestling thing. Is it somewhat disrespectful or something? 66 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 2: If someone said, hey, I know you've been wrestling for 67 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 2: thirty years and you grew up in it, let's work 68 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 2: on your punches, they're not looking very convincing. Do they 69 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 2: ever get like notes like after a match, like, hey, 70 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 2: everything was great, but we've got to work. 71 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 4: On landing those punches. 72 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 2: Why don't you go down to the center or the 73 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 2: entertainment whatever the hell they're calling it. Go to the 74 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 2: training place, work on your. 75 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 4: Work, on the the hits or the punches. 76 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 1: The young wrestlers, I know they do, But once you're 77 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: at a certain level and your punches aren't hurting the 78 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: other person, nobody's going to say anything to you. 79 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 3: They just want to be protected and safe in there. 80 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 2: Well, like some of these guys like they're working so 81 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 2: safe they're not even three inches from their face, or 82 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 2: like so slow, or they're like they'll be like they'll 83 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 2: like barely. 84 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 4: Like it's like, not everybody. 85 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: Not everybody's shamous, bro, Not everybody's just gonna be like it, 86 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: punch me in the face, punch you in the face, 87 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: I mean, punch me in the face. 88 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 4: Not in the Indy Show. 89 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 2: In Burbank, we're talking about the pros. We're watching the 90 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 2: best of the best, and there's punches look like dog shit. 91 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: Look, I disagree with everything Jeff just said. I would 92 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: much prefer you keep each other safe. And most of 93 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 1: the punches are looking pretty sweet out there. Alexa Bliss 94 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: still with the best right hand in the game, it's 95 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: the most realistic punch in the world. And she's like 96 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: five foot four, five foot five, and it's the best 97 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: right hand in the game. And it looks awesome every time. 98 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 3: Now. 99 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: Granted, long hair on dudes and girls make those punches 100 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 1: look more real because you can't quite see because it gets. 101 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 4: Lost in the hair. 102 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 3: And and head butt, I love a good head butt. 103 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 4: With long hair. A head butt is so good. 104 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, dude. 105 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 1: When Drew McIntyre does the Glasgow kiss, it always looks perfect. 106 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 1: When Real Ripley does her head butt, it always looks 107 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: perfect if the person has long hair that she had butts, 108 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: because then it's whips back perfect. And sometimes if they 109 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: do the water thing in their hair, you see like 110 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 1: it's supposed to be sweat, but it's the water flies 111 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 1: off their head. My daughter thinks it's gross. I think 112 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 1: it's super cool. But yeah, all right, back. 113 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 4: To it, all right, Well, let's talk about the sing 114 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 4: along a chance. 115 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a question from our producer Alex. 116 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: Do you think WWE leans into this stuff too much? 117 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:13,679 Speaker 3: Now? 118 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 1: Like, are they literally booking entrances for TikTok moments instead 119 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: of wrestling moments? Jeff, I think you have a pretty 120 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: strong perspective on this. You spoke on it on the 121 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 1: main show, but for those who didn't hear that, maybe 122 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: reiterate and elaborate a little bit. 123 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 4: All Right, So here's what I'll say. 124 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 2: I am fine with wrestling chance I'm a wrestling fan. 125 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 2: I like when we chant. I like when we know 126 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 2: the stuff. I like when we go with the wrestler 127 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 2: with whatever they're saying whenever they want. That's good, all good, 128 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 2: that this is awesome, You've still got it. 129 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 4: Holy shit. All those chants. 130 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 2: Good because those are chants that are happening while the 131 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 2: wrestling's happening, and it's part of the show. 132 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 4: It's part of the product. 133 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 2: The only thing I'm criticizing is when they sing a 134 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 2: thing or do a thing and the wrestler just isn't 135 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 2: talking or isn't doing anything as like an opening of 136 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 2: the That's the only when I'm criticizing. 137 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 4: I don't. 138 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 2: I think all the rest of it's very nice part 139 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 2: of it. I'm saying, let's get to the show. Well, 140 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 2: I don't need even three minutes of the wrestler like 141 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 2: acknowledging the audience and like waiting to talk and like that, 142 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 2: Like that I think is is over overdone and it's 143 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 2: too much and we need to just get to the product. 144 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 2: All the other chants I'm fine with and I like. 145 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 2: I think even the chance I don't like are still 146 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 2: part of wrestling, and who cares what I like. So 147 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 2: it's like when they do the yeat thing, like it's 148 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 2: been very clunky. Like there there was a raw the 149 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 2: other night I'm not sure how long ago where he 150 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 2: was trying to get him to say nope, but they 151 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 2: just kept saying yeat because they were I remember that yeah, 152 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 2: and he was like nope, and he doesn't and then 153 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 2: they go yeat and then he's like he was like 154 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 2: he couldn't convince them to do the right thing. So anyways, 155 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 2: I'm fine with it. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, 156 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 2: and I'm fine with all of it. I'm saying, just 157 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 2: let's not do that big thing where no one's talking 158 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 2: and we're just listening to the audience. Do on seen 159 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 2: A's song or sing like along with Roman reigns nonsense. 160 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: Here's a follow up question for you, because you said 161 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: you like it when it's happening during the match, what 162 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: about when the chants are something that you're not allowed 163 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: to hear on the TV product, like if it's a 164 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: holy shit or a aw hey, fuck you you suck 165 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: chant like not you suck. But when they're literally dropping 166 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: F bombs in there, and now they have to mute 167 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: the product and you can't see it, and they're kind 168 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: of taking over the show in a certain regard. It's 169 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: only now for the house and it's no longer for 170 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: the TV audience. 171 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 3: How do you feel about that? 172 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 2: That doesn't bother me as much because an F word 173 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 2: is so quick to edit, like they can just kind 174 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 2: of distort it a little bit. I'm sure the editors 175 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 2: hate it, but it doesn't bother me. Yeah, but it 176 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 2: doesn't affect the product enough that it bothers me. And 177 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, let them, let them rip, let it, 178 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 2: let it have fun. I want all the wrestling fans 179 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 2: to be happy. I want it to have fun. But 180 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 2: I think for the good of rest, we have to 181 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 2: make sure it's not taking up too much TV time. 182 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's much more theatrical now than it used to be. 183 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: Like in the old days, there was something called a 184 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: heel's ex a heel's entrance, and which was a false 185 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: entrance because in Puerto Rico. 186 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 3: JBL taught me about this. 187 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: When the heels would step out of the tunnel, the 188 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: fans that were right above the tunnel would just dump 189 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: everything on them, just beers, piss, water, I love this, batteries, pennies, 190 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: like whatever. They just would throw shit at him, and 191 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: so there'd be a false entrance where you take a 192 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: step and then step back and all the shit hits 193 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: the ground. 194 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 3: And then you enter the arena. Right, So that's how 195 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 3: it used to be. 196 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: Like when I went to a match with my grandma 197 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: in Puerto Rico, they put a cage around the ring. 198 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 3: I said, is this a steel cage match? 199 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: And she said not exactly, as in case the wrong 200 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: guy wins, the crowd can't run in there and kill 201 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: the winner. 202 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 3: And I was like what. 203 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: And then I saw the bad guy coming out and 204 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: people started chucking batteries at him, and my grandma like 205 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: held me down so I didn't get hit by anything, 206 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 1: and I was just like, yo, what the hell is 207 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 1: going I was like eight years old enough, scared to death. 208 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: It was like, what the hell's going on? So it's 209 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: evolved from violence against these people when they thought it 210 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: was real. So now that they know it's entertainment now. 211 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: The fans want to be a part of the show too, 212 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: and they involve themselves, whether it be disruptive like a 213 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: what chant, or whether it's a part of a match 214 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: where they're literally like cheering the Babyfaces come back, and 215 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: the comeback happens because of the audience's cheering, which happens 216 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: all the time, and that's an empowering feeling. If you're 217 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: a fan, you're like, especially if you're young, and it's 218 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: still real to you. 219 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 3: You're like, I cheered. 220 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: John Cena and that made him get back up, And 221 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: that's such a great feeling when you're a wrestling fan 222 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 1: because you were a part of that moment, right. And 223 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: I think that's why they get involved, is because there's 224 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: still some magic involved there. It's not like a boring 225 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: Broadway play where you can't do anything. You just sit 226 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 1: there and listen and then you clap at the end 227 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: of everything. It's not like when people go to see 228 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: what was it called Alexander or Hamilton? It was Hamilton, Like, 229 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if I've never gone to that crap, 230 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: but if if like you start singing, not crap. I 231 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: mean they're talented, but I just I like movies, I 232 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: don't like I don't like plays, but like, I don't 233 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: know if you're allowed to sing along, but I would 234 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: imagine you're not, and if you did, you'd be asked to. 235 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 3: Leave, because those are the game. Those are the greatest 236 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 3: voices in the world. 237 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: And your voice sucks, right, it sounds like Jeff in 238 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: my voice, Like, sorry, if you thought your voice. 239 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 3: Was nice, it's not. It's just just as bad as ours. 240 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: You're not James Ingleheart like he's like that guy's Yeah. 241 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 2: If you brought a date to lay mis a rob 242 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 2: and she starts singing along, you're like, this is over, 243 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 2: Like like even at a theater, you go, no, you 244 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 2: were not singing along? 245 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:42,319 Speaker 3: What are you doing. 246 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: My ex girlfriend back in the day when I was 247 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: like nineteen twenty brought me to lay Miz and she 248 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: was like, it's a very masculine show. 249 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 3: You're gonna really like it, and I was like, all right, 250 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 3: I'll go. 251 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: It was there was nothing masculine about Ley Miz. There 252 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: was nothing masculine at all. It was all just singing 253 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: and dancing. That is not manly. When you're nineteen and 254 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,839 Speaker 1: you grew up watching Jackie Chan movies like I want 255 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: to see fistfights. I want to see bloody noses. I 256 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 1: want to see asses kicked. I don't want to see 257 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: stage combat. 258 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 2: I want to see see a jet ski on fire 259 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 2: and some titties. 260 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 4: That's what I'm into. 261 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not well cultured, man, I'm the first to 262 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: admit it. I like what I like. I like pro wrestling, 263 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: I like the UFC, I like boxing. 264 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 3: I like race cars. I like old cars. 265 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 1: Like That's the shit that I'm into, and you know, 266 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 1: the other stuff is just not for me. 267 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 4: I want to see May Young power bombed into a table. 268 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 4: That's what I want to see. 269 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 3: But exactly, Bubba shout out to Jerry the King Lowler. 270 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, man, So to me, the crowd participation has 271 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 1: always been like mascu mentos, right Like, It's always been 272 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: kind of either I like it or I don't like it, 273 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: and I've never I haven't found the gray area yet. 274 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 3: I appreciate it more now that I'm older. 275 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: But when I worked there, I freaking hated it, probably 276 00:11:57,880 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: because I felt like they were messing up the speeches 277 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: that I was writing for these rests. 278 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,199 Speaker 3: Like you guys are fucking it up. Give the guy 279 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 3: a chance. 280 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 5: Goddamn, but I've grown since then. 281 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:34,439 Speaker 1: All right, Jeff, you get the final word. Is the 282 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: modern wrestling fan too involved? Or is this just the 283 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: evolution of the business. That's a question from our producer Alex. 284 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 2: I think that's a great question. Here's the thing, as 285 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:48,839 Speaker 2: wrestling fans, we want to be a part of all 286 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 2: of it. We live in this modern world. That's why 287 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of that show Unreal on Netflix, 288 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 2: and some fans are crashing out about it, saying. 289 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 4: Oh, this is too much they're doing. This is k 290 00:12:58,720 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 4: Fabe dead? 291 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 2: It's like, yes, dad, bro, what are you talking about. 292 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:11,079 Speaker 2: You don't get to pretend you love k Fabe when 293 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 2: you follow all these wrestlers on Twitter, when you expect 294 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 2: there to be an announcement of Naomi give having a 295 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 2: baby when she's the biggest best heel in women's wrestling 296 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 2: right now, and then they cut to her talking to 297 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:30,719 Speaker 2: Stephanie McMahon, someone everyone hates his daughter, and then and 298 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 2: then she's with Triple H who everyone criticizes, and when 299 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 2: she's going congrats on having the baby, and then Neilmi's like, yeah, 300 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 2: I guess I'm having a baby with Jay You're like, 301 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 2: that's breaking k Fabe, and that's on the show, that's 302 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 2: on the wrestling you love, and then you're gonna bitch 303 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 2: and moan that like Unreal has like a doc series. 304 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 2: You follow these people, you know everything they're doing. You 305 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 2: go to these like wrestling cons and you go to 306 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 2: these conventions and you literally sit there and go, I'm mommy, 307 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 2: she was so nice to me, and to go, that's 308 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 2: all breaking k Fabeah. 309 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 4: So that's just how the modern era is. 310 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 2: There's no k Fabe. It's been gone for twenty something 311 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 2: years longer. 312 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 4: Bro. 313 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,959 Speaker 2: The only people trying to keep up with k Fabe 314 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 2: is mjf Bless his heart, like still like trying to 315 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 2: convince everyone that he's this guy yelling at people at 316 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 2: sushi restaurants with Freddy or flipping off your daughter at 317 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 2: an autograph line. There are people trying to keep k 318 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 2: Fabe alive, and you, the wrestling fan, me the wrestling fan, 319 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 2: have ruined k Fabe. 320 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 4: It's over. Stop complaining about it. 321 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: I agree k Fabe is over, and I don't have 322 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: any argument, but I would elaborate on what you said 323 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: a little bit. Kfa has been dead for way longer 324 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: than twenty years YouTube Plan B Wrestlers Plan B. This 325 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: was in the seventies. They wanted more money and they 326 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: literally made a video where they said, it's all fake 327 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: my accent. I'm not Russian, I just do a Russian 328 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: accent and the moves are fake. I'm in there to 329 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: like it's they This was in the seventies, and then 330 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: in the eighties they started doing the shoot interviews, which 331 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: then killed k fabe all over again. So all this 332 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: stuff and then social media then finalized it. 333 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 4: Put the final podcasts, I mean. 334 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: Podcasts like this, Yeah, so it's it's been gone. 335 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 4: Well no, not ours. 336 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 2: I'm talking about them going on a podcast or like 337 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 2: Logan Paul like shooting three wrestlers a week, you know, 338 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 2: and then Drew McIntyre going on a podcast like literally 339 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 2: saying my friends are texting me that all the wrestlers 340 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 2: are tiny and they should be delivering pizzas, and like 341 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 2: I I blah blah blah. 342 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 4: It's like people are breaking. 343 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 2: K fabe every ten minutes, Like like I shouldn't know 344 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 2: what these guys houses look like, but you can figure 345 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 2: out what their apartment looks like and who they're dating, 346 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 2: and they have an on screen boyfriend Dominique Mysterio. 347 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 4: But then they have like a husband at home. It's 348 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 4: like ky Fabe is gone. 349 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: Hey man, nobody has a husband at home when they're 350 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: dating dominic Mysterio. He's enough man for all the women, 351 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: all the women. And I'm not going to tolerate any 352 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: any even near slander of that fine, fine human being. 353 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: Nor will we tolerate any slander of our listeners. So 354 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: if you guys hate our listeners. 355 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 3: Fuck you. 356 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening, everybody. I'm happy, Jeff, I'm Freddy, and 357 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: we'll see you guys next week. 358 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 3: Peace. 359 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 4: We love you,