1 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: By Steve. Where are you at about the cafe? Where 2 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: are you? Fistaen minutes away? 3 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:11,399 Speaker 2: Right up? 4 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: Baby for ages heavy wins. Yeah, we should have left earlier, 5 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:19,159 Speaker 1: you knoww it gets this Tom and die. Well, if 6 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 1: you gotta take that long, I'm gonna go and take 7 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: a sheet. 8 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 9 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: See in a bait point. Excuse me, Champ, you know 10 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: in the nearest statue. He's down there. I think down there, cheeze. 11 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 3: Good morning, swimml and welcome to the No Dungs Podcast 12 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 3: on the Athletic Network. It's Friday, April thirtieth, and this 13 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 3: is the drop hass kay full squad of g E 14 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 3: Skeeves rolling with mister what you need to know Tess Mellis. 15 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 3: Hey everybody, Hey Tassy, we got the top shot boy himself, 16 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 3: Trey Kirby. Hey, hey yo, the International Man a mystery 17 00:00:59,400 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 3: taking it. 18 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 4: To the Ellis. 19 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 3: Man, last but not least, making the magic happen here 20 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 3: a little earlier than normal on a Friday. It's JD. 21 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:08,839 Speaker 4: Hello. 22 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 3: There he is here. We are shout out to the 23 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 3: stream team joining us live right now on YouTube. Guys, 24 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 3: please continue to like, comment, and subscribe to No Dunks 25 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 3: on YouTube. Thanks to everybody who joined us last night 26 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 3: for our NBA Happy Hour Game Night. I had a 27 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 3: lot of fun playing Geo Guesser and filling out Sporkle 28 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 3: quizzes and opening up old f one racing cards and well, 29 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 3: the highlight of the night for me catching Carmen San 30 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 3: Diego's Henchman Nick Brunch. 31 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 5: Gotcha Nick. 32 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 3: Thanks to everybody that rolled through for Game Night. A 33 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 3: lot of people leaven some kind comments underneath, so we'll 34 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 3: try to do that again sometime in the future. Keep 35 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 3: your NBA questions coming for the next beach Step in podcast, 36 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 3: email Theman, No dunks at the Athletic dot com and 37 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 3: immaculate items always available for saleover at no dunks dot com. Okay, 38 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 3: on today's drop, a little bit different than normal because 39 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 3: we're going to really focus on debating and predicting the 40 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 3: NBA award winners for the twenty twenty twenty one NBA 41 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 3: regular season. We're going to fill out our MVP ballot 42 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 3: and you know, make our picks for Rookie of the Year, 43 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 3: most improve all the awards. But before we get to that, 44 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 3: we got to address some wild action in the NBA 45 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 3: on Thursday night. Okay, Kevin Durant went for a season 46 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 3: high forty two net swept the Pacers, and then with 47 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 3: no Luca or limited, I guess Luca and porzingis. Tim 48 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 3: Hardaway Junior steps up career high forty two points, including 49 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 3: seventeen in a row in the fourth quarter. I lee 50 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 3: looking good with my bet with you. You got Terry Rozier, 51 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 3: I got Tim Hardaway Junior, mas Viat the Pistons, and 52 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 3: then finally the real big News task talked about it 53 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 3: on What You Need to Know this morning. Kevin Porter 54 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 3: Junior catching fire in Houston, becoming the fourth player in 55 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 3: NBA history to score fifty points in a game before 56 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 3: turning twenty one years old as the Rockets shocked the 57 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 3: Bucks there, Tassie, it was absolutely huge, some big scoring 58 00:02:58,040 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 3: performances last night. 59 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you know you've talked about it, Skeets. 60 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 4: People expected Ken por Junior to put up some big 61 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 4: numbers on the Houston Rockets as they try to find 62 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 4: their way here at the end of the season. They 63 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 4: sat John Well, so, Ken Pord Junior has just been 64 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 4: given the ball. The guy can score, obviously, but his 65 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 4: career high before yesterday's game was only thirty points. So 66 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 4: he topped it by twenty and last year he was 67 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 4: with Colin Sexton Darius Garland in the backcourt in Cleveland. 68 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 4: I thought he was the best prospect of the three. 69 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 4: Maybe it's because I'm a Callin Sexton hater, but I 70 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 4: always loved him the most, just because he kind of 71 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 4: looks the smoothest. But I never thought he really had 72 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 4: sort of the handles and playmaking ability he's showing right now, 73 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 4: and the handles I think are definitely going to get better. 74 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 4: But I thought he's just more of a score. But 75 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 4: he's doing the scoring at eleven assists as well. So 76 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 4: he's the biggest of those three guards, if I'm not mistaken. 77 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 4: I mean he's sort of the same size Darius Garland, 78 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 4: I guess, but those guys are tiny compared to Porter Junior, 79 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 4: who can. Yeah, I kind of kind of see over everybody, 80 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 4: and it's hard not to make the James hard in comparison. 81 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 4: He went to a strip club last week wet hand, 82 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 4: but he's different. He's different than that. He can he's 83 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 4: getting a new start here and he looked awesome. Obviously, 84 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 4: It's it's just such a smooth stroke, so it's nice 85 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 4: to watch. 86 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that list of young guys to do it. 87 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 3: It's a pretty funny list, right It's Lebron, Devin Booker, 88 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 3: Brandon Jennings, and now Kevin Porter Junior. And look, we 89 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 3: were celebrating juniors all week here TK, Tim Hardaway Junior 90 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 3: going off. Now Kevin Porter Junior there in the same night, 91 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 3: Big week for juniors. 92 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 5: Yeah, people were saying, I'm gonna have to move Kevin 93 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,679 Speaker 5: Porter Junior up my list? Does he take Michael Porter 94 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 5: Junior spot as the best current Porter J or the 95 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 5: best mind? Guess he is the best Porter Junior. I 96 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 5: guess that's a complete conversation right there. No, I'll still 97 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 5: take MPJ overall. But great stuff from KPJ last night. 98 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 3: Also last night, we're not going to show it to 99 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 3: you here, but we will probably get it up on 100 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 3: our YouTube page. Had some big beef TK a new 101 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 3: member to the Big Beef Club. 102 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 5: And this is a nice beef if I'm being completely honest. 103 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,919 Speaker 5: ALA's a j not a huge guy. Most of his 104 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 5: layer or most of his rebounds are like legitimate highlights. 105 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 5: The guys flying in for these. There's some crazy ones, 106 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 5: no doubt, so tune in later. 107 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 3: Definitely awesome all right, so let's get to it to 108 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 3: the meat of this drop podcast. Here. End of the 109 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 3: NBA regular season, it's rapidly approaching two weeks to go, basically, guys, 110 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 3: which means awards season is upon us. So let's do 111 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 3: it here. We're gonna take turns sort of leading the 112 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 3: picks or the conversation at least with each of these awards. 113 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 3: And we might have a bunch of agreements, but if 114 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 3: you disagree, you know, speak up, make your case for 115 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 3: another guy. And I'm sure there will be a whole 116 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 3: bunch of Hey, what about this du what about this guy? 117 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 3: We'll try not to go overboard with that, but look, 118 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 3: it always happens. So let's just start with the grand 119 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 3: the most Valuable Player and Trey, you're gonna start us 120 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 3: off here. But there's two things to this. Who's your 121 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 3: MVP pick and why? Of course? And then if you're 122 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 3: feeling frisky, give us that top five ballot. You know 123 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 3: who's sitting there at the dinner table and part of 124 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 3: the conversation. So how about it. 125 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 5: That's right, skeets, we've been talking about the MVP table 126 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 5: for the entire season. Such an exclusive table. You got 127 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 5: a book months in advance. It's crazy to think that 128 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 5: we're finally here getting to enjoy this delicious meal. You know, 129 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 5: I've been thinking about it for such a long time 130 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 5: that I know exactly what I'm ordering. First thing, I 131 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 5: gotta have number one. It's an easy choice, easier than 132 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 5: you would think. Nikola Jokic is your MVP. You can 133 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 5: sit wherever you want at that table, buddy. I think 134 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 5: this is actually gonna end up being an easy choice 135 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 5: because it has been the choice for the entire season. 136 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 5: Is it this guy or is it Nikola Jokic? 137 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 3: Is it that guy? 138 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 5: Or is it Nikola Jokic? Is it some other guy 139 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 5: or Nikola Jokic. If we're talking about other guys, but 140 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 5: one name keeps coming up, it's probably gonna be the 141 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 5: guy that keeps coming up. And Jokic is that guy. 142 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 5: Twenty six points, eleven rebounds, eight and a half assists 143 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 5: a game. He's shooting fifty seven percent forty one from 144 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 5: three and eighty five from the free throw line. You know, 145 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 5: his consistency at this point has kind of, I feel like, 146 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 5: overshadowed the fact that we're seeing a center average nine 147 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 5: assista game basically going fifty to forty ninety while being 148 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 5: the number one guy for his team the entire season. 149 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 5: According to Basketball Reference, Jokic's thirty one plus per season 150 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 5: is just the thirteenth in history. He's on a list 151 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 5: now or will be with Wilt Chamberlain. Pretty good did 152 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 5: it three times. Michael Jordan four times in his absolute 153 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 5: prime from eighty eight to ninety one was over thirty 154 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 5: one for per Lebron did it three times during the nine, 155 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 5: ten and thirteen seasons. Steph Curry did it when he 156 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 5: was a unanimous MVP. Jannis did it last year when 157 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 5: he won an MVP. It's easily gonna be Jokic. He's 158 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 5: played like an MVP when he was the only one 159 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 5: playing well for the Nuggets they were struggling to get 160 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 5: wins early in the season, played like an MVP when 161 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 5: they were clicking. Murray and MPJ were both balling and 162 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 5: Jokic was still doing it. He played like an MVP 163 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 5: when they got Aaron Gordon looked like a title contender, 164 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 5: and he's continued to play like an MVP since Jamal 165 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 5: Murray went down. They're eight and one, which honestly is 166 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 5: probably only gonna help Nikola Jokic's narrative case. I actually 167 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 5: think this is ended up going to be an easy 168 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 5: win and number two is going to be the hard 169 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 5: call because, like I was thinking about this Derrick Rose thing, 170 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 5: I got into this with Schumann talking about m vps yesterday. Hmm, 171 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 5: went back and fought man. That must have been a 172 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 5: close race. It wasn't. Dwight Howard got like three first 173 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 5: place votes. And that's what this season feels like to me. 174 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 5: It feels like we're talking a lot about the MVP 175 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 5: because we got to find something to talk about. It's 176 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 5: gonna be Jokic in. 177 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 3: A walk, okay, But you don't think it will be 178 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 3: a unanimous no, no, No, It'll be some first place votes 179 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 3: Firs no way, embiid or Chris Paul or maybe or 180 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 3: somebody else. Yeah, does everybody agree? Before we get to 181 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 3: the top five sort of ballot here in flushing it 182 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 3: out with Jokic, Lee is he Is he your pick 183 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 3: in a bit of a runaway to like TK say, yeah, 184 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 3: I think so. 185 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. 186 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 6: I mean, so many guys have had a claim at 187 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 6: some point and for whatever reason, they sort of have 188 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 6: dropped in the standings a bit. But he has been 189 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 6: the most consistent and the Nuggets playing well, and you know, 190 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 6: you would like to see the Nuggets maybe creep up 191 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 6: a little higher if they can, just to sort of 192 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 6: solidify his case. But I think ultimately he's done enough 193 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 6: to get the job done from here. You know, coming 194 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 6: off what happened in the bubble last season, it was like, 195 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 6: can the Nuggets sort of back up that performance? And 196 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 6: he has clearly done that. Jamal Murray was starting to 197 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 6: get it together before he went down with that knee injury, 198 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 6: but the Jokichu tended to start it off start offf 199 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 6: seasons a little bit slower, didn't really do that. 200 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 3: This season. 201 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 6: He got it going from the start, even if the 202 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 6: Nuggets themselves didn't get it going. So I think so 203 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 6: I think after that, then you know, you can certainly 204 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:45,319 Speaker 6: shuffle those, you know, two through five, six positions, because again, 205 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 6: so many guys at different stages of the season have 206 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 6: had great performances and great roles. But whether or not 207 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:52,839 Speaker 6: it's been injuries in the case of Joel Embiid which 208 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 6: sort of knocked his case back a little bit, or 209 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 6: the fact that, like for Steph Curry, as great as 210 00:09:56,400 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 6: he's been, the Warriors record is going to go again him, 211 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 6: So I think Jokic sort of ticks enough boxes that 212 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 6: he is going to win. Yeah, and he's probably going 213 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 6: to win at least seventy five percent. I think of 214 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 6: those first place ballots, maybe even more, probably probably even 215 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 6: more than that. Yeah, but we just know that a 216 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 6: few other guys are going to going to get some 217 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 6: first place votes because they've warranted it at some point. 218 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 6: And the way that the voting goes that this is 219 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 6: not like Steph when he had that when the Warriors, 220 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 6: we had that seventy three and nine season where there 221 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 6: was just no one even really in that same conversation 222 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 6: and he was the first unanimous. But that's the only 223 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 6: time it's happened. So that just shows how unlikely it 224 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 6: is to happen again this season. 225 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 3: So, tass, we talked to Batman Villains last night on 226 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 3: Game Night. You got the joker here at number one 227 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 3: on that this one too, I assume you. 228 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 2: Do, right. 229 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 4: That's a beauty segue. 230 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 5: Man. 231 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 4: Where to jump on that segue and rate it over 232 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 4: to me? Yeah, that's that's nice, Yeah, I think so 233 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 4: it's just the way he plays so beautifully too that 234 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 4: makes me want to jump on board. Lee just mentioned Curry, 235 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 4: and to me, he's like a big man Curry in 236 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 4: a lot of ways because he loves getting off the ball. 237 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 4: Even though he leads the league in touches, he also 238 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 4: leads the league in passes, so he keeps the ball 239 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 4: in his hands for less than half the time as 240 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 4: the other players in the top five and assists like 241 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 4: he doesn't handle the ball as much, but he turns 242 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 4: it over less than all those guys because he's so 243 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 4: good at sea rat So he our friend at yeah 244 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 4: Who Sports has a nice ride up on Yo Kitch 245 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 4: about he's the MVP for in her eyes because he 246 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:31,959 Speaker 4: does less but he still gets all those stats. He 247 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 4: doesn't have to have the ball in his hands at 248 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 4: all times. And I think we all sort of expected 249 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 4: Yokich to kind of fall off a little bit, maybe 250 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 4: like the Joker did in the Batman Cannon. I don't know, 251 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 4: I'm not sure, to be honest, but you know, just 252 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 4: throwing things out there. We need things to talk about. 253 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 4: So yeah, I think I think the Joker has been amazing. 254 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 4: It's it's it's wild that the MVP. We're all pretty 255 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 4: pretty certain he's gonna win it. We're going to have 256 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 4: a foreign born MVP three seasons in a row. That's 257 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:03,959 Speaker 4: never happened. Two seasons in a row. It never happened before. 258 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 4: Yanni's did it twice in a row. But yeah, that's 259 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 4: in an MVP award for for the Balkan Peninsula, for Vladdie, 260 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 4: for Kuk Coach, for for Draws, and for the Serbs, 261 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 4: the cross for all of them. But I guess he 262 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 4: beat Luka Dancic to the punch here. He's the first 263 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 4: from that peninsula to do it. But I don't think. 264 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 4: I don't think you can give it to anybody else 265 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 4: because he's now got a better record than Joel Embiid. 266 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 4: Even though people and say Joel Embiad's the number one 267 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 4: seed in the East and Denver is the number four seed, 268 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 4: they actually have a better record, They have a better win, 269 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 4: better one more win, I should say. So at this point, 270 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 4: how do you do it? He's he's he's awesome Without 271 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 4: Jamal Murray, you know, he's at eight and one. As 272 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 4: Trey said, it's I don't know how you take it 273 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 4: away from him. And I think, uh, you know, it's 274 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 4: good for the NBA to keep it going global, keep 275 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 4: keep the excitement in Europe as high as possible, and 276 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 4: uh yeah, I mean you can't. You can't be wrong 277 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 4: if you take him, beat Curry, Yannis Lillard unless you're 278 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 4: Brian Windhorst, I guess, And then you got to fight 279 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 4: about it on a podcast. But he took Lebron. I 280 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 4: didn't even mention Lebron. There's just so many fricking guys, 281 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 4: but ye, Jokich is the guy I think. I think 282 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 4: seventy five percent of the bells. I don't know. I 283 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 4: don't know how people I. 284 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 3: Think more at this point, I think exactly what we've 285 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 3: done over the last couple of weeks here is just like, oh, 286 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 3: this was Chris Paul week, let's big up him just 287 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 3: to make things a little interesting. Before that, you know 288 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 3: it's Embiid had his time, of course, and even earlier 289 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 3: on it was like, of course, you know Harden and 290 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 3: all that. But yeah, you'll catch is the steady factor 291 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 3: here throughout this entire thing. And he checks all the boxes, 292 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 3: like you said, Lee, I mean crazy stats, Well, yep, 293 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 3: he's got those. Of course, we know he's impactful out there, 294 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 3: his team has great success. I guess he's clutch. The 295 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 3: narrative maybe that's like, you know, people like a narrative 296 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 3: to their MVP. I guess is he missing that if 297 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,199 Speaker 3: you're if you're like knocking them one point here, it's like, 298 00:13:58,240 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 3: I don't think it's one without Jamal Murry. 299 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 5: That's how to be part of it. 300 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:02,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good point. That actually is a really 301 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 3: good point. That little twist at the end there with 302 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,959 Speaker 3: that big injury to Jamal unfortunately, that's a good, great call. 303 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 3: So anyway, okay, we all agree because this is the MVP. 304 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 3: Let's do the rest of it here. Who's two through five? 305 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 4: There? 306 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:14,839 Speaker 3: Tk all right? 307 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 5: Who else is sitting at the table. The rest of 308 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 5: my ballot? It goes like this at number two, Joel 309 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 5: Embiid at number three, Janis Antetokumpo at number four, Lukatdancic 310 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 5: at number five, Chris Paul. 311 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 3: Wow, okay, okay, Leah, I see you two was a 312 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 3: tough one agreeing here. Very tough, very tough. There's obviously 313 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 3: going to be a bunch of hey what about this guy? 314 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 3: Where's that guy? But Lee, I saw you nodding the lawn. 315 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 3: You seem to enjoy that list, you like in those 316 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 3: names in that order? 317 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I've got basically the same names, and 318 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 6: the order is pretty much down to whatever you perceive 319 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 6: to be more important or who's been more impactful. I 320 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 6: think I would probably bump Chris Paul up to fourth 321 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 6: rather than fifth, simply because again, the Sons have become 322 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 6: such a good team and he's be so good now. 323 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 6: He doesn't have the numbers, but clearly he has the 324 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 6: impact and the leadership on that team. So I would 325 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 6: give him, you know, a higher position. But again, after one, 326 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 6: it doesn't really matter. You're shuffling around the deck there 327 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 6: a little bit. And Yannas again, I mean we all 328 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 6: came in with a bit of a bias is like 329 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 6: Jans you have to be super special this season, and 330 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 6: I think we held that against him for probably again 331 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 6: the first month or so, but then it was like, Wow, 332 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 6: he's been awesome again. 333 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 3: He's been incredible. Got the numbers and Joel Embiid. 334 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 6: I just wish he didn't miss any time. That's the 335 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 6: only thing, because if he's playing the entire season, then 336 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 6: I think that race between him and Jokich is closer. 337 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 6: But he missed a little bit of time there and 338 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 6: so that probably does sort of just take him out 339 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 6: of the running somewhat. But this is by far been 340 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 6: Joel Embiid's best season as far as a player, as 341 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 6: far as a leader. Defensively, he's been great and the 342 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 6: Sixers have the record, so that all those things count 343 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 6: for Joel Embiid. And who else did you have Doncic 344 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 6: in there? I mean Doncic, you know, he's just incredible 345 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 6: for a third year player doing what he's doing for 346 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 6: the Mavericks. I mean, you know, he moves the needle 347 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 6: so much for them, to the point where it's like 348 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 6: when Porzinger's plays, clearly they are a better team. But 349 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 6: without him, it's like Doncic has the ability, I still 350 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 6: think to cause an upset in that first round for 351 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 6: the Mavericks. 352 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 3: He's that good. 353 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 6: So yeah, basically the same guys shuffle the order a 354 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 6: little bit, but all of them, for whatever reason, have 355 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 6: been incredible on their teams and you're seeing the results there. 356 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 6: Like I say, Chris Paul, for me, I thought, you know, 357 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 6: the Suns, it's a bit of a desperation move here. 358 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 6: He was incredible in Oka. See, but he's going to 359 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 6: be turning thirty six. Can he sort of replicate what 360 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 6: he did in Oka? See and he's been even better. 361 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 6: So that's just a remarkable performance by him at this 362 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 6: stage of his career. 363 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 3: Tasks any issues with Tk's list. 364 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 4: It's a good list. I am throwing Steph Curry in 365 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 4: there because like his season is basically his MVP season 366 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 4: and he just doesn't have the wins, so people aren't 367 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 4: going to put him there, but you know he has. 368 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 4: They're three and a half games back of the Blazers, 369 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 4: currently four and a half games back of the MAVs, 370 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 4: and I attribute that to supporting cast. And I know, 371 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 4: I know Lillard carried his team for a lot of it, 372 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 4: but I mean I think that that that gap is 373 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 4: really just because of the supporting cast. So I've got 374 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 4: Steph in there, you know, with Lillard at the back 375 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 4: end at the four or five, and I would drop Luca, 376 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 4: but you know, that's a great family to be in. Yeah, 377 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 4: you know, we didn't include the guys in the playoffs 378 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,239 Speaker 4: who were gonna we're gonna say, oh yeah, that guy 379 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 4: is the best player in the world. And Lebron and 380 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 4: Kawhi who you know, we're in it for a long time. Uh, 381 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 4: but fell off just because we're doing this right here 382 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 4: and right now with ten games left in the season 383 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 4: and Kawhi is currently out and Lebron is currently out 384 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 4: that you know, we may we may even change tinker 385 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 4: it a little bit two weeks from now if we 386 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 4: made our decisions, but a little bit, a little bit, 387 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 4: like not a lot. I think we'd all take Yokich. 388 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 4: But yeah, as far as like the injured guys go, yeah, 389 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 4: they may, they may jump up, but let's hope they 390 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 4: get back in, get back healthy, because then we can 391 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,640 Speaker 4: do the oh, yeah, he's the best player in the world, 392 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 4: and watch Lebron James again. But he didn't have the 393 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 4: best season, so I think it's fair to have him 394 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 4: out of the top five. 395 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 5: Yeah. 396 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 3: I was checking that classic twenty twenty twenty one NBA 397 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 3: MVP Award tracker there over on Basketball Reference this morning. 398 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 3: I've been keeping my eye on it all season long, 399 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 3: and yokicch is number one with a bang. They have 400 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 3: him hat basically a seventy percent chance to win MVP. 401 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 3: So that's sort of right in line with what we're saying. 402 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 3: Then it's a little interesting because for whatever reason, there's 403 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 3: no Embiid and there's no Curry on this top ten list. 404 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 3: You know, Curry. I guess maybe they're holding the record 405 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 3: against him. But then Jimmy Butler's on this list, you know, 406 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 3: with a heat team that's thirty three and thirty So 407 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 3: that's a little odd embiid maybe just not hitting enough 408 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 3: minutes played or something like that. Again, just a little strange. 409 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 3: But it's Jokic, Jannis Kawhi Leonard third, who has had 410 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 3: a very very good season that has been completely overlooked. 411 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 3: No one cares until you know, of course, does it 412 00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 3: in the playoffs. But he's like I I even I 413 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 3: would that was like, wow, Kahy is averaging twenty six 414 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 3: points per game. You know, his shooting splits are very 415 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 3: close to like the fifty forty ninety type club. Then 416 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 3: Kyrie was fourth, which is amazing when you think about 417 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 3: that one that he maybe be the third best player 418 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 3: on his damn team. But here he is, you know, 419 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 3: top five according to Basketball Reference and their MVP Award tracker. 420 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 3: Then Rudy Gobert fifth, Luca, Jimmy Butler, like I said, 421 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 3: a bit of a shocker, Chris Paul eighth, and then 422 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 3: Donovan Mitchell and Damian Lillard. That's how Basketball Reference has 423 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 3: their award tracker there. But you know, lee a little 424 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 3: tough for the Jazz, who could have the best record 425 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 3: and very likely won't have a guy in the top 426 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 3: five in the official MVP votes. Maybe a few sneak 427 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 3: in there in the top ten, but you know that's 428 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 3: I guess that's not that's not really surprising, right. They're 429 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 3: a great team. They are a great team, and Gobert 430 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 3: is very important. Donovan Mitchell's a special player. Of course, 431 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 3: he injured recently, but yeah, maybe not the level of 432 00:19:58,560 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 3: some of these other guys we're talking about. 433 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 6: Yeah, but they are going to get recognition in some 434 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 6: other awards, which is more reflection of what the Jazz do, 435 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,959 Speaker 6: because yeah, Donovan Mitchell has been incredible this season, but 436 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 6: not to the same level of those other guys like 437 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 6: a Don Chic or Lillard or whoever. And Rudy Gobert, 438 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, he's great, His team is great. He 439 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 6: back anchors that defense. But you know, you wouldn't say 440 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 6: he's better than Yarnis or Joel Embiid or anybody else. 441 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 6: I mean, he plays his role very very well. But 442 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 6: that's the thing with the Jazz is they've got such 443 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 6: balance and such depth, so many contributors, not one that 444 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,360 Speaker 6: really stands out as much as some of these other 445 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 6: guys do on their team. So you know, it's a 446 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 6: bit like the Well, I was going to say the 447 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 6: Philadelphia seventy six and two that one, but Iryson did 448 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 6: win the MVP then, So but what I meant was 449 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 6: that they won so many awards, six man, defensive Player, 450 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 6: Coach of the year. You know, they had all these 451 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 6: other contributors, but then they also had Allen iives in there, 452 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 6: So it doesn't really work in this sense. But you know, 453 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 6: you see that sometimes from teams where they you know, 454 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 6: they just have such a great season, a lot of 455 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 6: guys get recognition without necessarily one guy being the dominant 456 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 6: player on the team. 457 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 4: Who is the Philly sixth man? Was it Aaron McKee? 458 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 6: Aaron mcke Yeah, because I remember, I remember it was 459 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 6: like I was an MVP, Larry Brown, coach, McKee the 460 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 6: six man, and Matombo defensive Player of the year. Not 461 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 6: they didn't get rookie obviously, but they and they didn't 462 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 6: win the championship, so they won sort of all the 463 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 6: individual awards without winning the title. 464 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 3: Anyone do you want to throw into to this, Hey, 465 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 3: what about this guy when it comes to the MVP 466 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 3: like that, especially after I went through, like, you know, 467 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 3: another seven or eight names there on Basketball Reference Tracker, 468 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 3: was there a name that shocks you task that's like, Okay, 469 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 3: it's not gonna They're not gonna win. Like, what about 470 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 3: Devin Booker. I mean, Devin Booker should be in the 471 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 3: same competition a little bit to me as a Donovan Mitchell, 472 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 3: Like I think he's some very very similar there and 473 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 3: in his impact and team success. 474 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 4: But anyone else, No, I can't go deeper than than that. Ten. 475 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 4: I mean that's enough. That's enough chairs at the dinner table. 476 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,679 Speaker 4: I think ten ten is good. Yeah, Devin Booker is 477 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 4: like you know, he turns Chris Paul's okay see team 478 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 4: from last year into what the Phoenix Suns team is 479 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 4: this season, Like he propels them into another stratosphere. So, yeah, 480 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 4: Chris Paul can be at the table, but Devin Booker's 481 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 4: got to be right beside him. I mean they can 482 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 4: share a chair like it's it's he squeeze that little 483 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 4: squeeze that. Yeah. Yeah, Chris Paul has been working out 484 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 4: for I can't believe he's thirty five. He's still looking great. 485 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 4: Devin Booker. Yeah, obviously everybody excited to see him in 486 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:30,199 Speaker 4: the playoffs, but yeah, you watched the way okay he 487 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 4: played last year, and yeah, Devin Booker is just so 488 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 4: important to this team and they are a huge threat 489 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 4: in the Western Conference and I can't wait. But yeah, 490 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 4: is he is equally as important as Chris Paul. I'd 491 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 4: say no, just because of what Chris Paul brings to 492 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 4: the table in terms of the locker room and being, 493 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 4: you know, a manager out there like Devin Booker hasn't 494 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 4: been in his career. But uh, yeah, I don't know. 495 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 4: That's that's a lot of guys. I think we've named 496 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 4: a lot of guys. 497 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 3: I think we're missing one name though that Basketball Reference 498 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 3: didn't have And we've talked about before maybe be in 499 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 3: the top five and might legitimately get some you know, 500 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 3: decent end of the ballot votes. Julius Randall. Right, Trey, 501 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,959 Speaker 3: we talked about him like, hey, maybe he slips in there. 502 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 5: Now. 503 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 3: I don't think he will ultimately, but he's gonna be on. 504 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 3: He's going to get some votes. There's gonna be some 505 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 3: fourth or fifth place votes for Julius Randall, and deservedly so. 506 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 3: With the season he's had, so it's a little shocking 507 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 3: he's not even on basketball references thing there. 508 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 5: Sure, yeah, he'll probably get some fourth and fifth place votes. 509 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 5: You're absolutely right. But I mean, Julius Randall, you're gonna 510 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 5: be showing up later in this show, no doubt about it. 511 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 5: And that's why I don't think people are super enthused 512 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 5: unless you're a Knicks fan or a Knicks media member, 513 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 5: to be putting him on your MVP ballot. Maybe just 514 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 5: change that middle number. 515 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 3: Okay, well, let's go to the next award here. We'll 516 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 3: get to Most Improved a little bit later, but we're 517 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 3: going to go to defense here. From offense to defense test, 518 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 3: you're gonna get a started. Who is uh your defensive 519 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 3: player of the Year. 520 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 4: Well, it's Rudy Gobert for me, and I think this 521 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 4: race and the narrative and discussion around this race is 522 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,640 Speaker 4: probably as juice as the Defensive Player of the Year 523 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 4: award can get ever to me anyways, because it's it's 524 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 4: not so much about stats, it's you know, about the 525 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 4: feel and everything. But to have a little bit of 526 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,719 Speaker 4: controversy around it is pretty unique. I know, guys say, hey, 527 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 4: I want to be Defensive Player of the Year. But 528 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 4: Ben Simmons has set it for the Philadelphia seventy six 529 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 4: ers over and over and over again this season. And 530 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 4: you know, he has a history with the Utah Jazz 531 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 4: when it comes to award selection. You know, remember back 532 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 4: in twenty eighteen with him and Donovan Mitchell. Mitchell wore 533 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 4: the two sweaters, the first one that said rookie and 534 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 4: the definition of rookie because Ben Simmons sat out a year, 535 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 4: and then just a straight rookie question mark after he 536 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 4: said he didn't care, but he cared a little bit, 537 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 4: but anyway, so then so then we got Ben Simmons 538 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:49,439 Speaker 4: telling ESPN and Rachel Nichols recently that Rudy Gobert guarded 539 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 4: me when we played them and I scored forty two points. 540 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 4: Is he rook Is he defensive player of the year? 541 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,919 Speaker 4: If you do check the tape, you know Simmons went 542 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 4: three for seven for nine points when Rudy was actually 543 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 4: guarding him and a few turnovers. By the way, when 544 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 4: going ahead to head with Rudy, Simmons on Twitch last 545 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 4: year said Rudy Gobert wasn't in the top five because 546 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 4: he doesn't guard all five guys. He has an anti 547 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 4: big man bias when it comes to guarding. He does 548 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,919 Speaker 4: because you know, he sees himself as being able to 549 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 4: guard more of the perimeter than Rudy Gobert, which he 550 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 4: absolutely does. But I always definitely lean towards a big 551 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 4: man when it comes to this category because you just 552 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 4: can't guard people that well on the perimeter in today's NBA. 553 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 4: You need somebody to stop guys at the rim because 554 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 4: he can't touch anybody and the only place you can 555 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 4: really meet them is at the rim. And when you 556 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,479 Speaker 4: get into the stats, Rudy Gobert stats are better than 557 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 4: Ben Simmons across the board other than steals, but he 558 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 4: is the leader in defensive field goal percentage in all 559 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 4: areas of the floor, the number one guy you don't 560 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 4: want to shoot against, don't want to have defend. You know, 561 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 4: defensive wind shares, all that, but outside of Steeles, Gobert 562 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 4: is the guy that you don't want to see at 563 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 4: the rim, which is the most important part of the floor, 564 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 4: not only because the layups are the most efficient shot 565 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 4: in basketball, but also because that's the only place you 566 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 4: can really meet someone. And so Rudy does a decent 567 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 4: job of Yeah, he doesn't guard point guards out there. 568 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,120 Speaker 4: She shouldn't have to, and they can try and play 569 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 4: him off the floor in the point in the playoffs, 570 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 4: but he's good enough offensively to stay on the floor 571 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,199 Speaker 4: and and to me, he has a bigger impact. So 572 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 4: it's again, it's not the juiciest of awards to me 573 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 4: because it's all about it's not all about but it's 574 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 4: mostly about the eye test. And so I would I 575 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,919 Speaker 4: would Rudy g it up over Benny Simmons it up 576 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 4: this year, even though even though I'm gullible and I 577 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 4: will listen to Ben Simmons tell me over and over 578 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 4: and over again that he's defensive Player of the Year 579 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 4: if you watch him, I think Rudy Gobert has more 580 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,120 Speaker 4: of an impact. He is their defense, and he doesn't 581 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 4: need and doesn't have incredible defensive players around him like 582 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 4: Ben Simmons does. Mike Conley is solid. They're solid, for sure, 583 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 4: but Ben does work with some better players, especially Joel Embiid, 584 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 4: who also said he wants to be Defensive Player of 585 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 4: the Year. But yeah, I think it'll come down to 586 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 4: those two guys. I'm not sure what you guys. 587 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 3: Think no, I think it's definitely sort of a two 588 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 3: man race here, and bam Adebayo is a great defender. 589 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 3: He'll probably finish like third or fourth in this but yeah, 590 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,360 Speaker 3: it's it's we talked about it earlier this week. It's 591 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 3: the big guy inside that protects the rim. And Rudy Gobert, 592 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 3: which would be his third defensive player of the year 593 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 3: if I have it correct there right, if he does 594 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 3: win it this one, and then yeah, Ben Simmons, who 595 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 3: look I think does because of his role, is more 596 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 3: of like a lockdown guy in the perimeter and can 597 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 3: actually take the star player on the other team and 598 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 3: keep him in check for the most part. He is 599 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 3: really that good and he's done it a lot of 600 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 3: times this season. No matter who that star is coming 601 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 3: in to play. The Philadelphia seventy six ers ben Simmons 602 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 3: out there, like they're just not generally going off for 603 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 3: like their thirty or forty points that they put on 604 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 3: every other team because Ben Simmons is awesome. He's big enough, 605 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 3: he's fast now, he's strong enough, he's obviously a smart defender, 606 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 3: and yeah, they got a great team defense too, but 607 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 3: a lot of that is led by him and what 608 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 3: he does on the premer and just shutting down the 609 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 3: number one option. So I'm team Ben Simmons. But look, 610 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 3: you know, Rudy Gobert is so important to what the 611 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 3: Jazz do and no one's going to disagree with that. 612 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 3: They're both top three defenses in the league too. You 613 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 3: know at the Jazz currently second defensive rating six or 614 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 3: third number one team in the league. Lee, you know 615 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 3: the best defense is and we're not even going to 616 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 3: talk about a single player probably on there, Grizzly. 617 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 6: No, this has been a weird one this seay because 618 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 6: the Mavericks have been up there, but it's not them. 619 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 3: So the Los Angeles Lakers have been its. 620 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 4: Still Yeah, Anthy Davis is bad at defense. They don't 621 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 4: even need him. 622 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 3: Right right, So yeah, I do think ultimately though, Rudy 623 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 3: Gobert is gonna win this thing, Trey, I think your 624 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 3: team Rudy once again. I mean, you love a big 625 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 3: man and he's damn important. But is Simmons number two 626 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 3: to you? 627 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 5: This is the Jazz's MVP Award. To be quite honest, 628 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 5: giving this to Rudy Gobert is part of the reason 629 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 5: why he will never show up on an MVP ballot 630 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 5: because we're like, hey, we got an award for you 631 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 5: right here, buddy, Because I mean Simmons, he's my number two. 632 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 5: But is he even the best defender on his own team? NA, 633 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 5: that's indeed for sure. Is he even the best perimeter 634 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 5: defender on his own team? Questionable? Fible is really good, 635 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 5: but to actually be able to bring it every night 636 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 5: while you'll also being a valuable offensive player. I think 637 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 5: you're giving it to Simmons, But I love the idea 638 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 5: that a big guy doesn't guard one through five. That's 639 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 5: just ridiculous to me because guests who shoots at the rim, 640 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 5: every single player from one to five, and the big 641 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 5: man's the one who's got to be the are like 642 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 5: tas is saying, there's a lot to cover when you're 643 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 5: a big guy. And especially with Gobert, all the advanced 644 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 5: stats are there for him, the win shares, defensive box 645 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 5: plus minus D rating, things that I don't care about. 646 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 5: One thing I do though, most defensive rebounds per game, 647 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 5: second and rebound percentage. That is the very end of defense, 648 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 5: getting the ball back so that your team has it. 649 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 5: Gobert is the is maybe the best in the league 650 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 5: at it. You can throw Capella in the mix as well, 651 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 5: but I think it is Rudy Gobert. From an impact 652 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 5: standpoint and from a being the Jazz's MVP standpoint, you 653 00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 5: gotta give it up to him. People in the stream 654 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 5: team asking if he gets three Defensive Player of the 655 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 5: Year awards, is Rudy Gobert gonna be a Hall of 656 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 5: Famer kind of? I mean, you're starting on your way. 657 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 5: We still't have Ben Wallace in there, and he's got 658 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 5: one more. But that's a guy I think should be 659 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 5: in the Hall of Fame as well, and maybe Rudy 660 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 5: will get there eventually if he keeps stacking these things up. 661 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 3: I take a championship for this year. 662 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 6: Isn't he Ben Wallace? 663 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 5: He was nominated this year. 664 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,719 Speaker 3: Wasn't that right? But he's not been officially entrained? 665 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 4: Right? 666 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 3: No, no, no, in the running? You think he should 667 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 3: be in as well, Ben. 668 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 6: He should be an absolute lock for sure. Look, I 669 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 6: think go Beart wins this, but my vote is for 670 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 6: Ben Simmons. And the reason is the reason is that 671 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 6: I think where he sort of suffers, it's like Kawhi Leonard. 672 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 6: I remember Zachlow wrote about this for a while, like 673 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 6: teams come down and see who Simmons is picking up 674 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 6: and just move the ball away from him because he 675 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 6: can affect the defense so good and there's no way 676 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 6: you can really count that stat or that impact because 677 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 6: it's like, well, if this guy, if Simmons is gotting 678 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 6: this guy, then let's just move this guy from the ball. 679 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 6: Not every possession, of course, but it happens for sure 680 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 6: because Simmons has got that length because he's technically a 681 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 6: small guy because he's a guard, but he's actually six' 682 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 6: ten so he's a, big so he could be the 683 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 6: hybrid small big who actually Wins Defensive player of The. 684 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 6: Year so there's no bias either. 685 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 4: Way you. 686 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 6: KNOW i think that's a perfect. Fit and that's WHAT 687 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 6: i noticed WHEN i watch the six Is i'm just 688 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 6: like Man. Simmons you, know he moves, around he tries 689 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 6: to sort of create defensive, opportunities but the other team 690 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 6: tends to try to move the ball away from him 691 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 6: because of that, reason because if he gets the ball 692 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 6: down the other, end it's a score straight away because 693 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 6: he's quick and he's athletic and he can't really be 694 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 6: stopped in the open. Court so that's to me WHAT 695 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 6: i look AT i think, again this is right that this, 696 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 6: number this award is far more about an eye test 697 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 6: first before it's about a statistical, one because it's just 698 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 6: a lot more difficult to measure defensive. Impact and it's 699 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 6: also a lot more difficult to look at and, say, 700 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 6: well you, know is this a great defensive team and 701 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 6: he's the anchor of, that or is this guy just 702 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 6: a great individual defensive. Player AND i think Both philadelphia 703 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 6: And utah have on case of both those very good 704 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 6: defensive teams with one major, anchor and in, fact The sixers 705 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 6: probably have the second one there With embiid as a 706 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 6: sort of safety net For joel For Ben simmons on the. 707 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 6: Perimeter but you, Know i'm glad to see That Ben 708 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 6: simmons does get the recognition for it BECAUSE i think 709 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 6: he's been a great defender for a long time and 710 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 6: now you, know it's like he's in the running for this, 711 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 6: award and it's great to have That Philadelphia utah sort 712 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 6: of spice and that beef going at each other. Still so, 713 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 6: yeah but ULTIMATELY i Think gobert wins, it BUT i 714 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 6: Think Ben simmons probably gets you, know gets the most 715 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 6: second place. VOTES i don't think anyone else comes second 716 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 6: in this. 717 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 3: Award, YEAH i mean if you're torn between the two guys, 718 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 3: Too gobert And. SIMMONS a small part of IT i 719 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 3: think has to be games. PLAYED i, mean just like 720 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 3: we're tiring with MVPs and stuff like that with a 721 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 3: lot of these, awards availability is going to be like 722 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 3: a driving force and a lot of these. Awards that's 723 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 3: the truth. Here golbert right now has played like eleven 724 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 3: more games Than Ben, Simmons so you, know maybe that 725 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 3: is a bit of a tiebreaker for some of you out. 726 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 3: There that's, Sure he's just been available. More they're both awesome. 727 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 3: DEFENDERS nba Dot com before we move on, here recently 728 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 3: talked with De Keny. Mattumba we brought him up four 729 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 3: Time Defensive player of The. Year do you win it 730 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 3: with three different? Teams didn't you? TOO i think he 731 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 3: uh with The nuggets of The, hawks and then he 732 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,239 Speaker 3: won one with The, sixers like you. Said, anyway he 733 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 3: was asked who stands out among today's top defenders To 734 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 3: kenby right, Away Embiid, Gobart, capella he slipped him in, 735 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 3: there and Then Ben, simmons so you know he didn't 736 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 3: just go with the big big. Guys he threw In 737 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:30,959 Speaker 3: Ben simmons, There but then he was, asked what's more 738 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 3: important a rim protector or a perimeter. Defender, yeah probably 739 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 3: have a pretty good. Idea what not done like a 740 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 3: good rim? Protector good, Stuff, jady you boys all? Right so, 741 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 3: yeah most of us Have Rudy gobert winning defensive player 742 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 3: there with all these. Awards let's hear from you guys 743 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 3: in the stream team in the YouTube. Comments tweet at 744 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 3: us at no dunk. Sink, Okay, ley let's go to 745 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 3: six man of the year coming off the. Bench who you? 746 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 6: Got, Yeah i'm going With Jordan, clarkson AND i think 747 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 6: this one is fairly clear as. Well he's the second 748 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 6: leading scorer on the team with the best. Record his 749 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 6: percentages have definitely cooled off since The All Star, game 750 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 6: but he's still averaging seventeen points on forty two percent. 751 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 6: Shooting he doesn't do a lot of other things out, 752 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 6: there but he knows his role and The jazz trust 753 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 6: him to just go out there and, shoot and that's 754 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 6: what he, does and he shoots and he, scores and 755 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 6: he does it very very. Well LIKE i, say he 756 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 6: was you, know there was a sort of a fringe 757 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 6: case for him to make The All star team for 758 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 6: a while there because he was going so well and 759 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 6: The jazz were playing so. Well it's, definitely you, know 760 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 6: he's cooled down a little bit since, then but he 761 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 6: still does that. 762 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:41,399 Speaker 3: Role very very. 763 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 6: Well and then after, that there's really not a ton 764 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 6: of strong candidates. EITHER i Think montrez is probably second 765 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 6: best who won it last, year of, course and then 766 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,720 Speaker 6: even someone Like Carmelo anthony's been, good but not better 767 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 6: Than jordan Clarks AND i don't Think Paddy mills started 768 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 6: off the season really. Well Enis cantor when he came 769 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 6: off the bench basically averaging a double double on sixty 770 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 6: three percent. Shooting but he's only played in twenty seven. 771 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 6: GAMES i mean he filled, in of course When nurk went. 772 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 6: Down Jordan clarkson is a legit six. Man that's what 773 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 6: his role. Is he's out there to score and he 774 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 6: does it. Well SO i really think that this one 775 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,839 Speaker 6: maybe not, unanimous BUT i think pretty close to it 776 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 6: because you, know he's doing it on a team that's 777 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,839 Speaker 6: got the recognition of, course as well as having the best, 778 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,280 Speaker 6: record and that surprised me that he's still the second 779 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 6: leading scorer on that, team which, is you, know pretty. 780 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 6: REMARKABLE i don't think that would have happened for a 781 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 6: team this high up in the standings in the. Past but, 782 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 6: Yeah Jordan, clarkson for me. 783 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 3: One i'm surprised he didn't mention. There it's ANOTHER risi 784 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 3: what About Joe. INGLES i know he started a bunch 785 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 3: of games for them as has slided in their starting, 786 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 3: lineup but still more games off the, BENCH i believe than. 787 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 3: STARTING i think he started something like twenty. Gams he's 788 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 3: been damn good. 789 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 6: Too for the, jokes their entire bench has been great 790 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 6: now And yang comes out off the bench and he's 791 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 6: been pretty good for. Them so, YEAH i Think Joe 792 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:01,359 Speaker 6: ingles he was shooting some ridiculou lessle the high number as, 793 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 6: well like sort of a historical high in terms of 794 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 6: his true shooting, percent, Right but again. 795 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 3: That's more The. 796 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 6: Jazz they know everybody knows their, roles and when a 797 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 6: guy goes out and someone else can slot into the starting, 798 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 6: lineup and then when that guy comes back in the 799 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 6: case Of Mike, conley then they resort back to their bench. 800 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 6: Role and that was Something Joe ingles did struggle with 801 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 6: in previous, years BUT i think this season he's a 802 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 6: lot more comfortable doing. That and The jazz are you know, 803 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 6: again they know everybody knows what's expected of, them they 804 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:29,880 Speaker 6: know their role and they play it so. Well so 805 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 6: DIDN'T i think you made the case for like The 806 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 6: Team Bench award at some point, too you, know like 807 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 6: rather than a six man like almost like a six. 808 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 6: BENCH i think The jazz would win that. Too but, 809 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,839 Speaker 6: Yeah Jordan, clarkson he's been, great very good for. 810 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,919 Speaker 3: Him, YEAH i SAW Cbr sports rate that given all 811 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 3: the time that players have missed this, year like do 812 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,280 Speaker 3: to injuries and then health and safety protocols WITH covid 813 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 3: and all, that that an argument could be made that 814 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 3: bench player has never been more important than maybe this. 815 00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:58,360 Speaker 2: Year but that was. 816 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,760 Speaker 3: Interesting i'm not SURE i agree with. Them that's an interesting. 817 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 3: Point but, Yeah i'm Team Bench award for this. Stuff, 818 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 3: Lee like you, SAID i actually have DECIDED i hate 819 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 3: this award AND i think this is worse than most 820 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,879 Speaker 3: Improve it's overtaken most worse for the dumbest. Awards, yeah 821 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 3: you only need to look at one. 822 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 5: Thing who's got the most points off the bench that's 823 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 5: the guy that's gonna win. It and that's why It's 824 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 5: Jordan clarkson this, year especially when you're mentioning lead that 825 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 5: he is the second leading scorer on the. TEAM i 826 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 5: think that's. Impressive but when you look at like the 827 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 5: points per game and the shooting, percentages Like Jordan clarkson 828 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 5: is basically Having Tim Hardaway junior's exact same, season not totally, 829 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,840 Speaker 5: different But Tim Hardaway junior barely even mentioned. 830 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,400 Speaker 3: This, yeah so, Yeah Jalen brunson getting more. 831 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 5: Sure, More, yes, Exactly rare, does And. 832 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 3: I'm fine with. THAT i think he's been great for 833 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,400 Speaker 3: The mask coming off the. Bench, Yeah, tess what do 834 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 3: you think of this? Award and who do you? 835 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:49,840 Speaker 4: Got, well you, know the whole thing about having the best, 836 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 4: BENCH i mean that's kind of like The Worst starters 837 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,840 Speaker 4: award as, well, right just not. 838 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 3: NECESSARILY i, mean, WELL i guess you weren't on that. 839 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 3: PODCAST i was pointing out, that, yeah like The, pistons 840 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 3: it was The, pistons and was it The wolves maybe 841 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 3: have the highest scoring benches in the. League but THEN i, said, 842 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,920 Speaker 3: yeah if you were actually giving a best bench to 843 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 3: a team, award you know you got to throw out 844 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:16,840 Speaker 3: the crap. Teams it's got to be more like The 845 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 3: grizzlies or or The jazz or The lakers even stuff like. 846 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 4: That, yeah, YEAH i was. THERE i THINK i was on. 847 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 4: THERE i think that was the. 848 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 3: Beach you're, right we were on the. 849 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,760 Speaker 4: Beach oh. Yeah so, Yeah so it's just an award 850 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,439 Speaker 4: for the good. TEAMS i guess the best. 851 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 3: Bench who's that best second, unit? 852 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 4: MAN i mean, yeah The jazz, Obviously, yeah they're they're. Rolling, 853 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:37,840 Speaker 4: Yeah who's who's got the best you, know four or 854 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 4: five man Going and The jazz definitely have. It so 855 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:41,840 Speaker 4: it's it's kind of hard to go away from. That 856 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,919 Speaker 4: Jordan clarkson has been. GREAT i Think Tim, Hardaway, yeah 857 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 4: has they found a role for. It they thought he 858 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,279 Speaker 4: was going to be a, starter and now they have 859 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 4: this two man duo coming off the, bench him And 860 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:56,279 Speaker 4: Jalen brunson In dallas and it works. Perfectly, yeah and, 861 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 4: yeah it's it's kind of like A coach of The 862 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:01,919 Speaker 4: year award as. WELL i, MEAN i guess the coach 863 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,760 Speaker 4: factors into all these, Awards but to have a great 864 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:08,359 Speaker 4: bench means you got a freaking good. Coach so why 865 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 4: don't we have two coaches of The, Awards coach of 866 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,920 Speaker 4: The year and best Bench, coach or maybe we'll just 867 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,400 Speaker 4: have a bench, coach like like we're doing baseball like. 868 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 4: That you know there's there's actually do they still happen in? 869 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 3: Baseball? 870 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 4: PROBABLY i think, So like just he just literally is 871 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 4: his name is his title is bench, coach. 872 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 5: The bench. Coach saw you, guys, good you guys? 873 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:34,280 Speaker 4: Good all, right, nice those bats are in the right. Racks, 874 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:39,279 Speaker 4: Good we're good BECAUSE i was just looking at That 875 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 4: pennant that we're talking about that the ninety Two Blue 876 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 4: jays And Gene tennis was the bench coach back then 877 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:50,720 Speaker 4: making sure everything's. Good, yeah, see everybody got their, Seats 878 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,719 Speaker 4: like is everything just in the right? Spot all? 879 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,840 Speaker 3: Right but you Have clarkson ultimately winning this, thing. 880 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 4: Yes all, right. ABSOLUTELY i mean he's he's been affishing. 881 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,919 Speaker 4: Too it's not just putting points in the in the. Hole. 882 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,240 Speaker 3: Yeah he started super, hot AND i think that's carried 883 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,400 Speaker 3: him through here Because lee's. RIGHT i think since The 884 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,760 Speaker 3: All Star, break it's not that it's not that. Amazing 885 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 3: it's turning into a little uh you, Know Lou williams 886 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 3: esque right where it's, great points are there and it's, like, 887 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 3: oh it's like flirting forty percent from the floor type 888 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:22,759 Speaker 3: of shooting and like whatever he was from three like 889 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,439 Speaker 3: thirty two. PERCENT i think since The All Star, breaks 890 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,359 Speaker 3: it's not amazing. Amazing MAYBE i think some other names 891 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,279 Speaker 3: just to show some, love Shake. Milton it's been really 892 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 3: good in his role With. Philly we Said, BRUNSON i 893 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 3: had him on my. List what About Dario? Sarich is that? 894 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,319 Speaker 3: Crazy what about this Guy Dario sarich and what he's? 895 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:39,280 Speaker 3: Awesome he has. 896 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,239 Speaker 4: Been and he's. Been he played fourth quarter minutes at 897 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,400 Speaker 4: center for a long time for. While DeAndre and they 898 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,840 Speaker 4: were kind of figuring that. Out he's, yeah he's played. 899 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,319 Speaker 4: Big they found a role for him there. Too you 900 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 4: know that's sometimes you're just you, know you're not a perfect. 901 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 4: Fit starch isn't a perfect fit as a starter because 902 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,880 Speaker 4: he's a little. Undersized you might not play, defense like 903 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,400 Speaker 4: if you're A Jordan, Clarkson Tim. Harday there you. 904 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 3: Go Derreck rose too in what he's, doing especially with The. 905 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,759 Speaker 3: KNICKS i keep forgetting that to start the, season he 906 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,520 Speaker 3: wasn't on The New York knicks that he actually he 907 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,279 Speaker 3: made his way, there played some games still there for The, 908 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 3: pistons but he's been really good in his role and 909 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,480 Speaker 3: talk about like hitting clutchhots and stuff like that and 910 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,840 Speaker 3: helping to their team. Success so let's hear from, you. 911 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 3: Guys there's a lot of other ones you could throw out, 912 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,920 Speaker 3: there but we all think Ultimately Jordan clarkson will probably win. 913 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,000 Speaker 3: This LIKE tk, said it's usually just like, well who 914 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 3: scores the? Most, okay it's his award and that's why 915 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,440 Speaker 3: it's sort of, like, EH i don't, know this is 916 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,600 Speaker 3: not that fun. Anymore for some odd, reason Most improved 917 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 3: maybe is better than this. One oh, boy, OH i, 918 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 3: KNOW i can't Believe i'm saying. That all, right let's 919 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 3: get to The rookie of The year. Now this one's 920 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 3: interesting at least in terms of Like LaMelo looking like 921 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 3: he was running away with it then gets, injured and 922 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 3: has there been an opening FOR u, task for An 923 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,280 Speaker 3: Anthony edwards or somebody else to do enough to actually 924 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 3: win this award From? 925 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,920 Speaker 4: LaMelo this is super. INTERESTING i will still go With LaMelo, 926 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,440 Speaker 4: ball ALTHOUGH i do Think Anthony edward and what he's 927 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,440 Speaker 4: doing with The timberwolves has shown me that his ceiling 928 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:07,279 Speaker 4: is higher Than LaMelo ball's but at this point this, 929 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,840 Speaker 4: SEASON i Think LaMelo ball has had the perfect year for, 930 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 4: him and Because Anthony edwards has been sort of. INEFFICIENT i, 931 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,720 Speaker 4: mean no one really wants to look into those, numbers 932 00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,880 Speaker 4: but if you look At LaMelo Versus Anthony, Edwards Anthony 933 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,960 Speaker 4: edwards has had some incredible. Games so he had eighteen 934 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,080 Speaker 4: points in the fourth quarter yesterday against The Golden State. 935 00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,759 Speaker 4: Warriors he's putting up some monstrous games and he's becoming more. 936 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,839 Speaker 4: Efficient but the fact that he's shooting forty percent from 937 00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:35,400 Speaker 4: the floor and thirty two percent from, three even THOUGH 938 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:36,759 Speaker 4: i think he's going to be a better player Than 939 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:40,880 Speaker 4: LaMelo ball soon considering his role and how much he 940 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,480 Speaker 4: can take on as a scorer and as a ball 941 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,279 Speaker 4: handler in the fourth, quarter something the Lame Melo BALL 942 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 4: i don't think can. Do, still, though it shows me 943 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,120 Speaker 4: That LaMelo ball has contributed a little bit more to 944 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 4: winning by being more, efficient because since he's become a, 945 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:59,719 Speaker 4: Starter LaMelo ball nineteen and a half, points six, assists six, 946 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,919 Speaker 4: boards forty six percent from the field and forty two 947 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:08,440 Speaker 4: percent from three ridiculous. Numbers so Although Anthony EDWARDS i 948 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,480 Speaker 4: think will be not only sort of the lead ball 949 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,799 Speaker 4: handler on The timberwolves in the fourth quarter next. Year 950 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,160 Speaker 4: but he's gonna do more than The mobile and he'll 951 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,840 Speaker 4: get more efficient because Since Ryan saunders was let, go 952 00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:25,200 Speaker 4: he has become more efficient and he has been absolutely. 953 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,960 Speaker 4: BALLING i don't think anyone expected him to be this 954 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,920 Speaker 4: good this, Quick BUT i think The mobill just sort 955 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,880 Speaker 4: of had a better overall and steadier, year which was 956 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,560 Speaker 4: a shocker as. Well no one really thought that he'd 957 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,359 Speaker 4: be this. Steady those numbers THAT i just threw out, 958 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,960 Speaker 4: THERE i DON'T i don't know if it's a bit 959 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:44,879 Speaker 4: of a, mirage you, know some of those. Numbers, yeah 960 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,479 Speaker 4: obviously forty two percent from. THREE i, MEAN i don't 961 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:51,440 Speaker 4: see that holding. On but he did, it and that's 962 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,319 Speaker 4: all that really. Matters AND i Think Anthony edwards will 963 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:58,759 Speaker 4: be the better player pretty. Soon but this won't look. 964 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:00,600 Speaker 4: DUMB i don't think in the future where we look 965 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,279 Speaker 4: back and, Say Michael Carter williams One rookie of The, Year, 966 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,720 Speaker 4: yakes or you, know The Malcolm briggedon thing Like LaMelo 967 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:08,640 Speaker 4: maybe it will be sort of like The Malcolm briding 968 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,000 Speaker 4: thing Where LaMelo ball is going to be a really 969 00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,239 Speaker 4: steady and really good. Player BUT i think added The, 970 00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:16,279 Speaker 4: edwards he's got the potential to be freaking, awesome AND 971 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:16,919 Speaker 4: i think that will. 972 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:20,440 Speaker 3: Happen forty one games played For LaMelo, ball that's enough for, 973 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,280 Speaker 3: You alilia to WIN roi. 974 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,520 Speaker 6: Well it's twenty three games less right now Than Anthony. 975 00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:27,560 Speaker 6: Edwards so if we're going to dock points for other 976 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 6: categories for games, played then we really should do it 977 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,600 Speaker 6: for this one as, well you, know because that's basically 978 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 6: a third of the season more Than edwards has. Played 979 00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,359 Speaker 6: and he's averaging eighteen point four a game on forty. 980 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,440 Speaker 6: PERCENT i, mean that's great. Numbers only four and a 981 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,360 Speaker 6: half rebounds a, game which is a little bit of 982 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,799 Speaker 6: surprise Considering mellow overall is at six and six rebounds and. 983 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:49,640 Speaker 6: Assists LaMelo for, me the shooting was much better THAN 984 00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,320 Speaker 6: i thought it was going to. Be you, know obviously 985 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,800 Speaker 6: watching a loonso and he doesn't have a great mechanics 986 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,200 Speaker 6: himself There. LaMelo i, THOUGHT i just don't know if 987 00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:58,719 Speaker 6: this is going to hold up in his first season 988 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,799 Speaker 6: in THE, nba but it has, sure you, Know and 989 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,040 Speaker 6: he was definitely like he burst out of the, blocks 990 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,799 Speaker 6: like from the Start, LaMelo you, know was coming off 991 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,960 Speaker 6: the bench and impacting, games and then When Terry rozier went, 992 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 6: down it was actually a great thing for The hornets 993 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,160 Speaker 6: because it Got LaMelo into the starting lineup and he 994 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:18,520 Speaker 6: became even. Better SO i mean, THIS i think Actually 995 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,319 Speaker 6: Anthony edwards would kind of be unlucky to not win 996 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 6: this if he does. Play i'm not sure exactly how 997 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,399 Speaker 6: many games he got left, there but probably only five 998 00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,279 Speaker 6: or six games to, go and to put up those 999 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,879 Speaker 6: sort of, numbers he'd be. Unlucky But LaMelo might also 1000 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,560 Speaker 6: come back for the last couple of games and just 1001 00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,000 Speaker 6: just do enough. There so there's one's flip of the 1002 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,960 Speaker 6: coin for. Me, really you, Know edwards started off, slow 1003 00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,080 Speaker 6: but he's really picked it up and he's become an impressive. 1004 00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,440 Speaker 6: PLAYER i think they've got they were you, know this 1005 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,279 Speaker 6: was the draft that you sort of didn't really want 1006 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:46,719 Speaker 6: to have the number one pick because you just didn't 1007 00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:48,920 Speaker 6: quite know what you were getting because of everything that 1008 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,600 Speaker 6: went on with the coronavirus and No march madness And 1009 00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:55,600 Speaker 6: LaMelo playing In. Australia BUT i think the first you, 1010 00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:57,640 Speaker 6: know the first pick was turned out to be. Great 1011 00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,680 Speaker 6: SO i guess in the, END i Go, LaMelo But 1012 00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,000 Speaker 6: Anthony edwards has got a very very strong case and 1013 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:07,080 Speaker 6: the games played probably should tilt it in his favor 1014 00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:08,800 Speaker 6: in the, end But i'm not sure it. 1015 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:12,960 Speaker 5: Will Trey, Roy i've Got LaMelo in a. BLOWOUT i 1016 00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,239 Speaker 5: actually see it the exact opposite of, tasks WHERE i 1017 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:16,520 Speaker 5: think that it is going to kind of be a 1018 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,720 Speaker 5: mistake for the Timber wolves to have not Taken, LaMelo 1019 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,200 Speaker 5: because when he was playing his best for The, hornets 1020 00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,480 Speaker 5: they were making a push into the, playoffs trying to 1021 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:27,880 Speaker 5: challenge for a home court advantage spot in The Eastern, 1022 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,520 Speaker 5: conference which obviously is not quite as impressive were in 1023 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,919 Speaker 5: The Western. Conference, Meanwhile edwards' best stretch has been while 1024 00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:35,959 Speaker 5: The wolves are completely out of things and people aren't 1025 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,560 Speaker 5: really taking him. SERIOUS i, mean maybe it turns out 1026 00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:40,520 Speaker 5: like A Hakeem Michael jordan sort of thing where you're 1027 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,160 Speaker 5: not upset taking a number one pick Who's Anthony. Edwards 1028 00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,920 Speaker 5: But wamelo to me is a transformational. Player he's probably 1029 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 5: in the top ten already around of guys who you 1030 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,239 Speaker 5: would like to build a franchise. AROUND i just think 1031 00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:56,280 Speaker 5: he has that star. Power he has the infectious energy 1032 00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,920 Speaker 5: and the ball moving skills that are similar to A 1033 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,120 Speaker 5: Steve nash who you're gonna want to play on the 1034 00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,160 Speaker 5: court with him because he makes everybody better and the 1035 00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,560 Speaker 5: ball keeps. Moving he does more defensively Than edwards. Does 1036 00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,680 Speaker 5: the only thing he doesn't have is the game's played, 1037 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,400 Speaker 5: advantage which if that is the, case then you, KNOW 1038 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,520 Speaker 5: i think that's certainly a fair. CRITICISM i Had embiid 1039 00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,000 Speaker 5: Over brogden way back in the, day SO i think 1040 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,799 Speaker 5: this is fair to still Have LaMelo Over Anthony. 1041 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,280 Speaker 3: Edwards, Right and remind, ME i Mean embiid had played 1042 00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:28,279 Speaker 3: what thirty, Games LaMelo is going to have played over, 1043 00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,319 Speaker 3: half especially if he comes back, here he could get 1044 00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,200 Speaker 3: up to, like let's call, it forty, five forty six 1045 00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,319 Speaker 3: games out of a seventy two game. Season, YEAH i 1046 00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,440 Speaker 3: Think LaMelo is ultimately gonna win. This he would be 1047 00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:41,160 Speaker 3: my pick just, because like you, Said, drake he's. There 1048 00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,600 Speaker 3: it feels like there have been like three rookies that 1049 00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:47,279 Speaker 3: have really contributed to winning. Games LaMelo at the top 1050 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,359 Speaker 3: of that. LIST i Think Tyre's halliburton is you, know 1051 00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,399 Speaker 3: in the mix. Two probably finishes third in this, race 1052 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,240 Speaker 3: maybe even second if he gets some of those. VOTES 1053 00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:58,040 Speaker 3: i know The kings are, disappointing they had their, flashes 1054 00:47:58,080 --> 00:47:59,960 Speaker 3: but he has helped win them games and he looks 1055 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,759 Speaker 3: like an awesome. Player and then Probably Emmanuel quickly with 1056 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,560 Speaker 3: what he's done for THE nixt too is contributed at 1057 00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:09,000 Speaker 3: the very. Least BUT i Go LaMelo and, yeah he's 1058 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,239 Speaker 3: played just enough, game especially if he comes back like 1059 00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,480 Speaker 3: you were, Saying, ley that really probably cements his case 1060 00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:16,800 Speaker 3: to win. This AND i don't think anyone will be 1061 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,640 Speaker 3: all upset with. It is there any other underrated rookies 1062 00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,719 Speaker 3: tasks like that you're excited. About that's not gonna Win 1063 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:24,720 Speaker 3: rookie of The year, here but like you're, like, oh, 1064 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,359 Speaker 3: yeah there's something to this kid was pretty. Special has 1065 00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,680 Speaker 3: anyone else like jumped out at you from the twenty twenty, Draft. 1066 00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,000 Speaker 4: WELL i Think detroit should be pretty pomped With Sidik 1067 00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,759 Speaker 4: bay And Isaiah stuart both those, Dudes, yeah three good. 1068 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,120 Speaker 4: ROCKS i THINK i would lead with the other, two 1069 00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:42,960 Speaker 4: BUT i Like killian hasn't really jumped in on. Either but, 1070 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,919 Speaker 4: yeah the other, Dudes, YEAH i Think Sidik, bay who 1071 00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,720 Speaker 4: the heck knew that he had that ability to shoot? 1072 00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:53,560 Speaker 4: It And Isaiah STUART i mean ever SINCE i heard 1073 00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,880 Speaker 4: on The pistons broadcast that he could be the Next Dennis, 1074 00:48:55,960 --> 00:49:00,640 Speaker 4: Rodman i'm. LISTENING i, mean he gets after. It he 1075 00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:01,800 Speaker 4: Is he's one of those type of. 1076 00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,520 Speaker 3: Guys so he contributes to winning. Too in all, HONESTY 1077 00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:05,759 Speaker 3: i know they don't win a ton of, games but 1078 00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:07,880 Speaker 3: he actually does things that you want out there to 1079 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,200 Speaker 3: help win. Games so they got the best. 1080 00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:14,400 Speaker 4: Bench they're Starting Killian, hayes and they got to go 1081 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,279 Speaker 4: to their bench with a lot of. Guys they just 1082 00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:18,359 Speaker 4: got to. Go they try and, say are young, guys 1083 00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,680 Speaker 4: let's let's get out, there and then the bench just 1084 00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:22,759 Speaker 4: comes in takes care of. Business but that's it's not 1085 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:26,040 Speaker 4: an easy team to. Play so that THOSE i, think 1086 00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,560 Speaker 4: even though you, know people look At detroit and, SAY 1087 00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:30,799 Speaker 4: i don't, know it's kind of, forgettable just like The 1088 00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,319 Speaker 4: wolves are you, know have been sort of forgettable at. 1089 00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:38,400 Speaker 4: Times you, know those guys have, Potential and, YEAH i 1090 00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:42,280 Speaker 4: believe In Anthony edwards. POTENTIAL i know that the numbers 1091 00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,960 Speaker 4: aren't as good As LaMelo's this, year But i'm buying 1092 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,399 Speaker 4: the confidence and and the fact that you, know he 1093 00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:50,879 Speaker 4: has had to have more of a this is on 1094 00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,799 Speaker 4: your shoulders type of role Than LaMelo did for for 1095 00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,280 Speaker 4: much of the. Year SO i think he's he's shown 1096 00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,600 Speaker 4: that he's got that he's Got he's just got that 1097 00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,640 Speaker 4: mental makeup that you have to have in THE nba 1098 00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:05,279 Speaker 4: if you're gonna be the go to, guy and sometimes 1099 00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:07,759 Speaker 4: sometimes you get that sometimes you, know you, know you 1100 00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,080 Speaker 4: gotta be a, little you, know a little borderline crazy 1101 00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,080 Speaker 4: Like lee and his, pencils to be like just a 1102 00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:16,280 Speaker 4: guy that he's just gonna shoot every time he's, ready 1103 00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,680 Speaker 4: just Like lee's ready to Draw Aime. 1104 00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,799 Speaker 3: Tray any other rookies that you think have maybe been 1105 00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:23,640 Speaker 3: a little underrated this, year they want to show some love. 1106 00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:27,319 Speaker 5: To For Kundo. Composo, baby he's been a lot better 1107 00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:28,879 Speaker 5: THAN i thought he would. BE i thought he would 1108 00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,359 Speaker 5: be Another Milos Tea dositch where we're seeing all these 1109 00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,319 Speaker 5: highlights from his time playing. Overseas he comes, here throws 1110 00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,359 Speaker 5: a couple of them in the, preseason but then really 1111 00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,399 Speaker 5: can't stay on the. Court that hasn't been the case 1112 00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,959 Speaker 5: with The. Composo despite being one of the smaller guys 1113 00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,759 Speaker 5: on the, league he'll still occasionally get some crunch time 1114 00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:47,080 Speaker 5: minutes for The. Nuggets he's a more pesky defender THAN 1115 00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:48,360 Speaker 5: i thought he would. BE i thought he would just 1116 00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:50,920 Speaker 5: be a flashy, passer but he's played a little. Defense 1117 00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:52,960 Speaker 5: he's been a decent passer as, well and he's been 1118 00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,520 Speaker 5: important for The nuggets to, have especially With Jamal murray 1119 00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:57,480 Speaker 5: going Down lee anyone, Else. 1120 00:50:57,840 --> 00:50:59,759 Speaker 6: No just more on the menual. QUICKLY i, thought you 1121 00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:01,720 Speaker 6: think he's been great for The, knicks you, know shooting, 1122 00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:06,200 Speaker 6: away the faring away for deep, sometimes but this is you, 1123 00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,160 Speaker 6: know The knicks has been a great story this season 1124 00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:11,080 Speaker 6: and him coming in there and playing that role pretty. 1125 00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,000 Speaker 6: WELL i think he's going to be a fan, favorite 1126 00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:16,040 Speaker 6: very very in the near. Future All. 1127 00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,799 Speaker 3: RIGHT a Few GRIZZLIES i think have been really. Good 1128 00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:20,880 Speaker 3: x going to give it to, You Xavier Tolman. Senior, 1129 00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,000 Speaker 3: yeah the young guy with the senior at the end 1130 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:24,400 Speaker 3: of his. NAME i love. THAT i think he's been. 1131 00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,560 Speaker 3: Good Desmond bine's been really good for them in his 1132 00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:29,920 Speaker 3: role in terms of scoring the. Ball So grizzlies got 1133 00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,120 Speaker 3: some good ones. There but let's hear from all of 1134 00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:35,319 Speaker 3: you out. There an underrated rookie is a fun, question all. 1135 00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:37,440 Speaker 5: RIGHT i was hoping somebody was gonna what about this? 1136 00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:39,360 Speaker 5: Guy Patrick. Williams SO i didn't have, to but that 1137 00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,200 Speaker 5: guy takes like six shots during an entire. Week shoot 1138 00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:44,560 Speaker 5: the ball, man get some shots up right? Now are 1139 00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:44,960 Speaker 5: you kidding? 1140 00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:45,040 Speaker 1: Me? 1141 00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:48,359 Speaker 3: Patrick, yeah especially with the bulls doing what they're. Doing 1142 00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:49,279 Speaker 3: just shoot, it. 1143 00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,719 Speaker 5: Dog just shoot. It get those paws working. 1144 00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,480 Speaker 3: All, Right most improved, Player, lee start us off here 1145 00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:57,000 Speaker 3: is this is this going to take one? 1146 00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:00,800 Speaker 6: MINUTE i can't believe how excited you are for this, Awards, 1147 00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,719 Speaker 6: Sketsy this is. Incredible, look this was a race early. 1148 00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:05,719 Speaker 6: ON i Think Christian wood jumped out of the. Gates 1149 00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:07,680 Speaker 6: he's still on track for twenty and ten good. Shooting 1150 00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:09,920 Speaker 6: Jeremy grant the big. Contract he's lived up to, that 1151 00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:13,920 Speaker 6: improving his scoring average by more than. Ten Gilga, Alexander 1152 00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,120 Speaker 6: he's on twenty four points at fifty forty, eighty but 1153 00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,480 Speaker 6: he shut down and the Sex man has also been. 1154 00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,960 Speaker 6: Good but this one may be. UNANIMOUS i Think Julius 1155 00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,400 Speaker 6: randall for a lot of. Reasons starting off the numbers 1156 00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,640 Speaker 6: twenty four to, ten six, assists a legit three point 1157 00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,319 Speaker 6: shoot shooter now as, well making forty two percent on 1158 00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:30,960 Speaker 6: over five. 1159 00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:31,160 Speaker 4: At ten a. 1160 00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,279 Speaker 6: Game he's basically career highs across the. Board you, know 1161 00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:36,719 Speaker 6: there's the odd percentage here and, there but that three point. 1162 00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:38,640 Speaker 6: Shot he's never been a great three point, shooter but 1163 00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,480 Speaker 6: this year he. Is he's an improved, playmaker a. Leader 1164 00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,359 Speaker 6: The knicks are a playoff, team he was An All. 1165 00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,399 Speaker 6: Star he's almost a, LOCK i would say for ALL 1166 00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:49,640 Speaker 6: nba at this point as. Well and you, know the 1167 00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,520 Speaker 6: main thing is, HERE i, Think, skekezy why you like 1168 00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,120 Speaker 6: it this? Season this is not a second season guy 1169 00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,360 Speaker 6: or even a new team, guy or you, know a you, 1170 00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,960 Speaker 6: know a bump in minutes. Guy he is averaging a career. 1171 00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,680 Speaker 6: MINUTES i will point that, out but that's a reflection 1172 00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,120 Speaker 6: of a he's. Coach timms likes to play these guys heavy. 1173 00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:07,600 Speaker 6: Minutes and also he's warranted that extra play because he's 1174 00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:11,520 Speaker 6: been so important for. Them so, overall there's everything is 1175 00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:15,520 Speaker 6: In Julius randall's favor, here the, numbers the, narrative the team, 1176 00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:18,640 Speaker 6: record and it's been standing. Out SO i LIKE i, 1177 00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:22,000 Speaker 6: SAY i think he probably does ultimately win this in 1178 00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,440 Speaker 6: a as close to his unanimous as you're going to. 1179 00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,640 Speaker 3: Get, YEAH i will be shocked if he doesn't get 1180 00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:29,960 Speaker 3: all of the first place. Votes at this, point tasks 1181 00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:31,319 Speaker 3: same for. 1182 00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:34,840 Speaker 4: You it's perfection a guy in year number seven to 1183 00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:38,520 Speaker 4: be playing like this to. Improve it's, yeah it's easy 1184 00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:43,120 Speaker 4: for everybody. Voting IT'S i can't get over it game 1185 00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,680 Speaker 4: to game just watching him and how he's still able 1186 00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:47,880 Speaker 4: to get a shot. Off everyone knows it's coming because 1187 00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:51,440 Speaker 4: he's not necessarily flying by. Guys he's still just able 1188 00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:53,879 Speaker 4: to get that room and just let it. Go AND 1189 00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:56,560 Speaker 4: i just don't know, how you, know in this day 1190 00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:59,600 Speaker 4: and age where everybody you know wants people to shoot, 1191 00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:01,520 Speaker 4: threes go to the, rim the guy is just on 1192 00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:05,600 Speaker 4: fire from nineteen feet like that's he's become like the 1193 00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:09,080 Speaker 4: New LaMarcus. Aldridge he, doesn't you, know back down. Guys 1194 00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,560 Speaker 4: he kind of faces them. Up but to, me he's 1195 00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:13,960 Speaker 4: The he's the number one big, man mid range guy 1196 00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:15,799 Speaker 4: in THE. Nba but he can still put on the. 1197 00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:19,120 Speaker 4: Floor it's not like he's just he's not just, immobile 1198 00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:21,960 Speaker 4: like he was way more mobile than The La. Marcus but, 1199 00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:24,000 Speaker 4: MAN i mean IT'S i don't know when it's going 1200 00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,120 Speaker 4: to stop for The, Knicks LIKE i just keep waiting 1201 00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,759 Speaker 4: THAT i feel like somebody's gonna slow down on The. 1202 00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,680 Speaker 4: Knicks and it's not gonna Be Julius. Randall he's just 1203 00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,279 Speaker 4: somehow he's become a better player in year. Seven so, 1204 00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,680 Speaker 4: yeah it's perfect for everybody who both hates and loves 1205 00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:39,920 Speaker 4: this award because it's it's not just a second year. 1206 00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:43,560 Speaker 4: Guy we've got people in the stream team Saying Ken 1207 00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:47,000 Speaker 4: Porter junior deserves it because he's he's scored fifty last. 1208 00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,359 Speaker 4: Night come, on, yeash what are we talking about? Here 1209 00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,400 Speaker 4: he's he's a second year, player are we? Kidding of 1210 00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,080 Speaker 4: course he's going to. Improve so a seventh year is. 1211 00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:58,239 Speaker 4: Guy you, know it's It's Hito turgolus Gets Ryan anderson. 1212 00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:00,400 Speaker 4: Esque it's it's, good it's. 1213 00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,560 Speaker 3: Gonna and the part where the player turns into An 1214 00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,120 Speaker 3: All star or An ALL nba like, guy that's what 1215 00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,600 Speaker 3: we've been seeing with this award in the last couple of, years, 1216 00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:12,640 Speaker 3: right like Brandon Ingram siakam before. That uh We Oladipo. 1217 00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,719 Speaker 3: JANNIS i, mean McCollum hasn't hit An All star, yet 1218 00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:17,480 Speaker 3: but he's sort of in that same sort of. Group 1219 00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:20,040 Speaker 3: so it checks out here With. Randall you're fine with 1220 00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:21,560 Speaker 3: THE tk one hundred. 1221 00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:24,560 Speaker 5: Percent this is an easy. One going from good to 1222 00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:28,600 Speaker 5: great is such an awesome improvement to go from being you, 1223 00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:31,480 Speaker 5: know cap, fodder which you might have Called Julius randall 1224 00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:35,000 Speaker 5: heading into this season two An ALL nba, player simply incredible. 1225 00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,439 Speaker 5: Stuff if we're being quite. Honest that's Why Jaylen brown 1226 00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:39,480 Speaker 5: is number two on my. Ballot kind of a similar, 1227 00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:42,399 Speaker 5: case but he was starting further. AHEAD i would say 1228 00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:45,879 Speaker 5: Then randall. Was the only question right now is When 1229 00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,359 Speaker 5: Zach low is gonna release the low cut of his. 1230 00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:51,359 Speaker 5: List you, know we saw The Zack snyder cut Of 1231 00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:54,200 Speaker 5: Justice league was four hours. Long let's see The Zach 1232 00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:58,040 Speaker 5: low cut fifty five players, deep most improved. BALLOT i 1233 00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,840 Speaker 5: could only go. THREE i ended up With Jeremy grant 1234 00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,000 Speaker 5: at number. Three he's certainly fallen. Off we don't talk 1235 00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:05,279 Speaker 5: about him as. Much but it's really nice to show 1236 00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,720 Speaker 5: The pistons some. Love, yeah back end of an award, 1237 00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:08,760 Speaker 5: Balance it all feels. 1238 00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:11,360 Speaker 3: GREAT i, know shut out to all The Detroit pistons 1239 00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:13,319 Speaker 3: fans out, there all eight of you listening to this, 1240 00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:17,040 Speaker 3: podcast you must be loving this right. Now all, right, 1241 00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:18,920 Speaker 3: well one more. Award let's wrap this up and then 1242 00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,960 Speaker 3: we'll end with some rapid Firefun coach of The. Year, okay, 1243 00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:26,360 Speaker 3: now my criteria fits the same criteria As Zach harper 1244 00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:27,719 Speaker 3: with The. Athletic he does a great, job by the, 1245 00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:29,600 Speaker 3: way all season long over The athletic go The athletic 1246 00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:31,200 Speaker 3: Dot com slash no dunks of like sort of like 1247 00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:33,680 Speaker 3: keeping you up to date on what he's thinking with 1248 00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,919 Speaker 3: his award. Races he actually has a. VOTE i didn't 1249 00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:38,680 Speaker 3: point that. Out we don't have a. Vote we never, 1250 00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,040 Speaker 3: have probably never. Will so this is just our opinion. 1251 00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:43,400 Speaker 3: Here But zach does for The. Athletic and when it 1252 00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:46,920 Speaker 3: comes to, coach it's, twofold, Right, Lee it's team, expectations, 1253 00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:50,400 Speaker 3: Right so does a team surprise us based on preseason 1254 00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,800 Speaker 3: expectations because that usually is going to help a coach's 1255 00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:56,200 Speaker 3: chances to jump up in the voting for this. Award 1256 00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:58,239 Speaker 3: and then secondly they're just flat out team's, success like 1257 00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,000 Speaker 3: did you win a bunch of? Games like how good 1258 00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:05,080 Speaker 3: was your? Squad so my short list it's only three. 1259 00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,319 Speaker 3: Names you go go. Nuts if you want to try 1260 00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:10,000 Speaker 3: and convince Me Steve nash would be in, Here doc rivers, 1261 00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:11,920 Speaker 3: LIKE i don't really. CARE i just don't think they're 1262 00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:14,799 Speaker 3: gonna finish top. Three it's a three man. Race three 1263 00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,280 Speaker 3: coach RACE i said it earlier this. Week it's The 1264 00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:20,120 Speaker 3: Knicks Tom, Thibodeau it's The, Sons Money, williams and it's 1265 00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:23,160 Speaker 3: The jazz Is Quinn. Snyder that's. It that's. IT i 1266 00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,400 Speaker 3: do not care who wins. This i'll be happy with 1267 00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:28,200 Speaker 3: all three of those. GUYS i wouldn't be. Upset i'd 1268 00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:31,200 Speaker 3: be like done perfectly right, time and like this would 1269 00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,840 Speaker 3: be the one we Were maybe we're a little premature 1270 00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:35,440 Speaker 3: trying to pick a coach of THE, ara BECAUSE i 1271 00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:37,960 Speaker 3: do wonder if whoever has the best record in the 1272 00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:40,560 Speaker 3: league wins. It And i'm talking about you, Know Tom. 1273 00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:42,560 Speaker 3: Thibodau that's not gonna be him in The, knicks but 1274 00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:44,560 Speaker 3: it could Be Monny williams if The sun's getting number one, 1275 00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:46,360 Speaker 3: seed or it could be of Course Utah jazz Is 1276 00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:47,120 Speaker 3: Quinn snyder if they. 1277 00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:50,560 Speaker 6: Do you think that's, Fair, yes It's Monty williams for, me, 1278 00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,600 Speaker 6: though because The jazz have a very good team and 1279 00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:56,120 Speaker 6: we had expectations for. Them The, sons LIKE i, SAY 1280 00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:58,440 Speaker 6: i would probably say if The sun's finished sixth this, 1281 00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:00,800 Speaker 6: season that would have been a. Success the fact they 1282 00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:03,200 Speaker 6: could finish finish first and have the best record in the. 1283 00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:06,120 Speaker 6: League that to me is just an incredible. Tournament and 1284 00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:07,959 Speaker 6: Now Chris paul gets a lot of, credit so Does Devin, 1285 00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:10,400 Speaker 6: booker but so Does Monty. WILLIAMS i think that was 1286 00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:13,320 Speaker 6: that was a situation where it was, like you, know people, 1287 00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:16,520 Speaker 6: thought you, know, wondered who Is Monty williams really a good, 1288 00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:18,400 Speaker 6: coach because we know things sort of peetered out not 1289 00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:18,720 Speaker 6: well for. 1290 00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:19,240 Speaker 3: Him there In New. 1291 00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:22,200 Speaker 6: Orleans he's gotten there and he's done a fantastic job With, 1292 00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:24,000 Speaker 6: Phoenix SO i think it's, him AND i think it's 1293 00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,280 Speaker 6: Probably thibodeau number two for the job he's done with The. 1294 00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:29,720 Speaker 6: Knicks that's also surprised. ME i THINK i Picked Steve 1295 00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,439 Speaker 6: nash coming, in But i'll be disgusted If Steve nash 1296 00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:33,480 Speaker 6: winsor because. 1297 00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,520 Speaker 3: You can't job he's. 1298 00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:38,240 Speaker 5: Done, look he's. 1299 00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:40,439 Speaker 3: Done its, contributing but. 1300 00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:43,320 Speaker 6: You can't you can't have you can't Have durant And 1301 00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:45,840 Speaker 6: irving coming into the season and then trade For James 1302 00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:47,920 Speaker 6: harden and then they are great coaching. THERE i, mean 1303 00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:49,600 Speaker 6: he's done a great. Job and then The, nets you, 1304 00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,840 Speaker 6: know like basically those three guys have almost not played together. 1305 00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:56,720 Speaker 6: Anyway But nash does not deserve it this, season despite 1306 00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:58,400 Speaker 6: the fact That nets probably have the best record in 1307 00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:01,320 Speaker 6: The Eastern. CONFERENCE i think As Multy williams AS i 1308 00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:03,680 Speaker 6: say thieves and then Probably quinn snodded for me in that. 1309 00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:07,560 Speaker 3: ORDER i think you're, MAYBE i don't, know short Changing 1310 00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:09,600 Speaker 3: Quinn snyder a little. Bit doesn't he deserve a bunch 1311 00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:12,400 Speaker 3: of credit for changing the Way utah played because they 1312 00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:14,720 Speaker 3: were not a three point shooting team to this level last, 1313 00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:16,440 Speaker 3: year and like he altered. It they were a good, 1314 00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:18,240 Speaker 3: Team like you, said they were already a decent jazz, 1315 00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,800 Speaker 3: team you, know and basically have the same for the 1316 00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:22,959 Speaker 3: most part core and you, know another year with connling 1317 00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:24,760 Speaker 3: under your belt and all, that but like they just 1318 00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:26,840 Speaker 3: embraced the long. Ball Quinn snyder like sort of Went 1319 00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:28,720 Speaker 3: Nick nurse on us and was, like, nah let's just 1320 00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,400 Speaker 3: jack a bunch of, threes and here they are with 1321 00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:33,440 Speaker 3: the best record in the. LEAGUE i think he deserves 1322 00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:35,760 Speaker 3: a little bit, of you, know maybe more. RESPECT i 1323 00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:38,040 Speaker 3: guess in your mind where you're putting them here in this, 1324 00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:40,640 Speaker 3: RANKINGS i Think Quinn snyder could win this. Thing and 1325 00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:43,760 Speaker 3: because of, THAT i think that's big to like take 1326 00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,880 Speaker 3: a really good team with, yeah the defensive, identity but, say, 1327 00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:49,040 Speaker 3: hey we're gonna do something completely different here on offense 1328 00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:50,640 Speaker 3: and that shoot a bunch more threes and like they 1329 00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:52,560 Speaker 3: lead the league in basically threes made per. 1330 00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:55,200 Speaker 5: Game you make a good, Point. Skeets we'll see if 1331 00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:57,800 Speaker 5: if the best record in the league thing certainly, matters 1332 00:59:57,840 --> 00:59:59,480 Speaker 5: because The jazz have been the best team in the 1333 00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:04,000 Speaker 5: league or the majority of the. Season that's sometimes a 1334 01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:06,320 Speaker 5: nice mix to Win coach of The. Year obviously not 1335 01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:10,600 Speaker 5: every single, season BUT i don't. Know it feels like 1336 01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:12,360 Speaker 5: there's not a lot of buzz for Quin steiner right, 1337 01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:14,800 Speaker 5: now But i'm one hundred percent with you there definitely should. 1338 01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,080 Speaker 5: Be it feels like he's gonna just naturally come in 1339 01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:20,440 Speaker 5: third on a lot of, ballots which is probably too. 1340 01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:23,280 Speaker 3: Low, tess what do you? Think i'm with. 1341 01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:26,800 Speaker 4: YOU i think The Phoenix suns added another coach In Chris, 1342 01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,000 Speaker 4: paul While Quinn snyder kind of has had to do 1343 01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:32,040 Speaker 4: it all, himself SO i think he. Is, yeah he's 1344 01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:36,160 Speaker 4: implemented a great system yet to really change it up 1345 01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:38,520 Speaker 4: to try and get the most out Of Donovan mitchell's 1346 01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:41,080 Speaker 4: ability to drive by throwing out everybody out on the 1347 01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:44,480 Speaker 4: three point. Line But i'm also with you in that 1348 01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:48,360 Speaker 4: whichever suit comes home with, It i'm okay with you, 1349 01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:50,200 Speaker 4: know the players are the ones who do. It and 1350 01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:55,000 Speaker 4: so you, KNOW i joke that The son's got a new. Coach, 1351 01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:59,240 Speaker 4: listen The jazz players have implemented in a smart. System 1352 01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:04,439 Speaker 4: and so, yeah whether It's Tibbs, monty whether It's Quinn. 1353 01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:06,600 Speaker 4: Snyder if you want to give a little bit of 1354 01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:09,560 Speaker 4: a an edge to a guy who looks like A batman, 1355 01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:12,480 Speaker 4: villain maybe it could Be Quinn. Snyder throw him in 1356 01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:13,560 Speaker 4: there like the. 1357 01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:14,520 Speaker 3: Penguin though. 1358 01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:18,760 Speaker 4: That's a good. Point give him the umbrella for, sure It's. 1359 01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:19,520 Speaker 6: Mony then Who's? 1360 01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:20,920 Speaker 3: Monty which batman villain Is? 1361 01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:24,240 Speaker 5: Monthy maybe He's Joe Chills. 1362 01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:28,160 Speaker 4: Joe BUT i THINK i Think Steve nash has done 1363 01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:30,600 Speaker 4: a great. Job you can dock him all the points 1364 01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:33,600 Speaker 4: because he's got, superstars but he's held that locker room 1365 01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:38,440 Speaker 4: together through a roller coaster of a, season and you, 1366 01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:40,720 Speaker 4: KNOW i THINK i think the locker room is set 1367 01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:45,600 Speaker 4: by him and By durant and And. Irving but, YEAH 1368 01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:47,800 Speaker 4: i don't. KNOW i, mean there's a lot of good, 1369 01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:50,640 Speaker 4: coaches you, know most talent THE nba has ever had 1370 01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:52,560 Speaker 4: most coaching talent THE nba has ever. 1371 01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:56,640 Speaker 3: Had, YEAH i, think, well, no it's. INTERESTING i think 1372 01:01:56,680 --> 01:02:00,040 Speaker 3: it Was Ben dolliver And michael the Pod pinat talking 1373 01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:01,720 Speaker 3: about With coach of The year. Here it's sort of. 1374 01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:03,760 Speaker 3: Funny maybe some of the best coaches in the league 1375 01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:05,520 Speaker 3: are not going to be in the running at all 1376 01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,880 Speaker 3: for this, award Like pop And spolstra and you, Know 1377 01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:11,840 Speaker 3: carlisle and you, know it's like a great, point like 1378 01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:14,120 Speaker 3: and a big part of, it of course is expectations 1379 01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:16,080 Speaker 3: and stuff like. That so we're gonna get you, know 1380 01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:18,959 Speaker 3: some new blood. Here maybe winning. IT i Think Monty 1381 01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:21,880 Speaker 3: williams would be a great, story no. DOUBT i just 1382 01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:24,320 Speaker 3: think people keep holding it Over Bondy williams that they 1383 01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:26,080 Speaker 3: went eight to no in The bubble last, year and 1384 01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:27,640 Speaker 3: so everyone's, like, well, hey you were good at The, 1385 01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:30,400 Speaker 3: Bubble so is it all that surprising that you're still? 1386 01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:33,400 Speaker 3: GOOD i, mean it's, like, okay, Sure but you also. 1387 01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:35,360 Speaker 5: See the flip side where they're, like look at What 1388 01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:37,720 Speaker 5: Monty williams has done over the case that are the 1389 01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:40,280 Speaker 5: course of his two years there In, phoenix, right tending 1390 01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:42,600 Speaker 5: them from a team that was just all about Getting 1391 01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:45,760 Speaker 5: Devin booker buckets to a team that's actually. Competitive how 1392 01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:50,040 Speaker 5: about in an actual. Race who's winning This Monty, Williams Quinn, 1393 01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:53,000 Speaker 5: Snyder Tom. THIBODEAU i think you're Saying thimbs comes in, third, 1394 01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:56,600 Speaker 5: Probably BUT i Think monty Versus quinn is actually a 1395 01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:59,919 Speaker 5: little bit of a. Race, Obviously i'm leaning towards mont 1396 01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:02,920 Speaker 5: first being a professional. Athlete But Quinn snyder's in good Shapestore. 1397 01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:07,680 Speaker 6: Sroy, yeah, yeah well that's why a spousetar as. 1398 01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:08,880 Speaker 3: Well he, could he could make a light. 1399 01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:10,040 Speaker 4: Choge he's always in great. 1400 01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:12,880 Speaker 3: Shaky we run in one hundred meter race, here what 1401 01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:21,040 Speaker 3: are we? Doing eight hundred? Fifteen we run in? Here, yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly, actually, Yeah. 1402 01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:24,960 Speaker 4: Snyder's not winning anything in boat shoes, though. 1403 01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:30,840 Speaker 3: So many blisters if you're running in those. Things, okay so, 1404 01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:33,800 Speaker 3: yeah we're not upset with any of those three guys. 1405 01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:37,480 Speaker 3: WINNING i, guess If i'm going on the, RECORD i 1406 01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:39,720 Speaker 3: Think Money williams does win. IT i think he. WILL 1407 01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:42,240 Speaker 3: i think he'll get the most. Vote people also Love Money. 1408 01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:44,120 Speaker 3: WILLIAMS i guess all three of these guys are sort of, 1409 01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:47,360 Speaker 3: liked but comes down to. Who sometimes these, uh these 1410 01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:50,040 Speaker 3: people actually just like to talk. To and there's zoom 1411 01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:53,280 Speaker 3: press conferences a little. Bit maybe that's a weird tiebreaker 1412 01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:55,240 Speaker 3: for some of you all out. There, okay so those 1413 01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:58,680 Speaker 3: are OUR nba award picks and predictions and all. That 1414 01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:01,680 Speaker 3: let us know who you would, have especially in the YouTube. 1415 01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:04,440 Speaker 3: Comments you can tweet at us At No Dunk's ink as. 1416 01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:07,120 Speaker 3: Well let's end this drop podcast with a little rapid 1417 01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:11,120 Speaker 3: fire fun, though because Guys Kevin love apologized for his 1418 01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:14,280 Speaker 3: on Court temperatantrum this, week saying that his behavior was 1419 01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:16,840 Speaker 3: out of line nut, character but it had nothing to 1420 01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:20,320 Speaker 3: do with any frustration toward his teammates or. Coaches it 1421 01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:22,720 Speaker 3: was all about that referee, There so he was quite. 1422 01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:27,000 Speaker 3: APOLOGETIC i want to, know, though what's something trivial you 1423 01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:28,320 Speaker 3: would like to apologize. 1424 01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:31,600 Speaker 4: For task it a, Start i'd like to apologize for 1425 01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:34,520 Speaker 4: not bringing reusable bags into the grocery, store but not 1426 01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:37,680 Speaker 4: to the world and to the environment for using. Plastic 1427 01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:41,800 Speaker 4: now to myself BECAUSE i will never ever take plastic 1428 01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:45,440 Speaker 4: from the. Clerk even IF i don't have, Bags i'll 1429 01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:48,560 Speaker 4: just handbomb THAT i will carry it. Out and so 1430 01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:52,640 Speaker 4: YESTERDAY i had about eight items in my grasps in 1431 01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:55,240 Speaker 4: my paws AND i couldn't get it to the. CAR 1432 01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:56,960 Speaker 4: i dropped some stuff on the way to the, car 1433 01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:00,120 Speaker 4: but you know it got. There, yeah all in one in. 1434 01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:03,840 Speaker 4: Peace so, Yeah i'm annoying. MYSELF i got the bags 1435 01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:05,720 Speaker 4: in the. CAR i just. Forget i'm deep into a 1436 01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:08,280 Speaker 4: pod in my, ears So i'm just just. Forget BUT 1437 01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:11,960 Speaker 4: i will never ever ever take a Plastic i'll yank 1438 01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,160 Speaker 4: it out of there myself and then drop it in 1439 01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:14,800 Speaker 4: the parking lot. 1440 01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:19,720 Speaker 5: TRAY i want to apologize for yesterday's. SHOW i Said 1441 01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:22,640 Speaker 5: Steve nash didn't deserve THE mvp in two thousand and. 1442 01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:25,640 Speaker 5: FIVE i was joking that was a shack. JOKE i 1443 01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:28,320 Speaker 5: actually do think he deserved. It it was a very fun. 1444 01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:31,440 Speaker 5: Season BUT i also like to zing skeets every now and. 1445 01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:33,680 Speaker 5: Then in, Skeets i'd also like to apologize to, you 1446 01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:37,440 Speaker 5: specifically because you were copied on the back and forth 1447 01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:41,760 Speaker 5: between me And John chuman talking about If Steve nash 1448 01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:43,800 Speaker 5: won THE mvp in two thousand and, five Then Derreck 1449 01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:46,439 Speaker 5: rose was clearly THE mvp in twenty. Eleven i'm SORRY 1450 01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:48,240 Speaker 5: i kept you calfied on that. ONE i should have 1451 01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:50,840 Speaker 5: tapped you out or we took it TO dm, eventually 1452 01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:55,080 Speaker 5: but you're probably upset with a couple of those. NOTIFICATIONS 1453 01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:56,720 Speaker 5: i was, worried you're gonna hit me with the lee ellis. 1454 01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:59,120 Speaker 3: Mute, no, no, no. NO i was gonna jump in 1455 01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:01,160 Speaker 3: here BECAUSE i, think, yeah this was the Whole it 1456 01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:03,280 Speaker 3: came up BECAUSE i brought up that tweet From kazim 1457 01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:07,240 Speaker 3: about the idea of Like Steve nash winning, MVPs does 1458 01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:10,600 Speaker 3: it help or hurt Basically Chris paul's chances to win 1459 01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:13,200 Speaker 3: AN mvp this, Year AND i Saw schuman going deep 1460 01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:14,800 Speaker 3: on his numbers like he, does BUT i think he 1461 01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:16,000 Speaker 3: was losing sight of it a little. 1462 01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:16,160 Speaker 4: Bit. 1463 01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:19,720 Speaker 3: REALLY i read that tweet as can a guy that 1464 01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:22,200 Speaker 3: doesn't score a ton of points in today's game WIN? 1465 01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:24,920 Speaker 3: Mvp Because nash was not scoring a bunch back. Then 1466 01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:26,840 Speaker 3: he was like eighteen points per game or. Something Chris 1467 01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:29,400 Speaker 3: paul is what sixteen seventeen points per game something like. 1468 01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:31,480 Speaker 3: That that to, Me i'm just looking at it like. 1469 01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:33,720 Speaker 3: That but of course the impact they have on the 1470 01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:35,560 Speaker 3: team winning and all. That but, no you don't need 1471 01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:37,360 Speaker 3: to apologize for. THAT i love a good back and 1472 01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:39,800 Speaker 3: forth between you And. Schumann the only thing better is 1473 01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:44,160 Speaker 3: Tacit schumann going, back that's my, favorite and then it's. 1474 01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:47,280 Speaker 4: True we got to get back at That. Schumann, yeah 1475 01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:49,400 Speaker 4: you let me know SOMETHING i said that was, Stupid. 1476 01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:53,920 Speaker 4: Suman all, right SO i can apologize to you before 1477 01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:56,640 Speaker 4: you move. On Sarah gray, writes this pod turned into 1478 01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:59,400 Speaker 4: an apology. Dinner do people do, that like sit around 1479 01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:00,800 Speaker 4: a table apologize to each. 1480 01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:02,760 Speaker 3: Other i've never heard that sort of. THING i think it. 1481 01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:05,360 Speaker 5: Was it was like a trending thing On twitter maybe 1482 01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:09,000 Speaker 5: yesterday that somebody threw an apology dinner for a friend 1483 01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:12,000 Speaker 5: or a relative or something like that to apologize for. 1484 01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:14,240 Speaker 5: Something so like kind of that's what we're. 1485 01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:16,640 Speaker 3: Doing, oh that's gonna Be maybe that'll be happening at 1486 01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:21,880 Speaker 3: THE mvp, Table. Milk it's just apologizing everybody for having won, 1487 01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:25,880 Speaker 3: It Alter, lee what's something trivial you would like to apologize? For, well, 1488 01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:27,000 Speaker 3: well we're all talking About. 1489 01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:30,120 Speaker 6: Shumes i'll apologize for calling him tiny the other day 1490 01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:32,760 Speaker 6: because he fact checked me and said he's five eight 1491 01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:35,480 Speaker 6: and he didn't think that that qualifies as. Tiny so 1492 01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:38,440 Speaker 6: WHAT i WHAT i just meant, was you, KNOW i 1493 01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:40,919 Speaker 6: would Say shumes is an undersized point, guard but out 1494 01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:43,440 Speaker 6: on the. Court he plays well above that sort Of. 1495 01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:45,840 Speaker 6: Heidi he's feisty yet there he's got a shot he 1496 01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:49,040 Speaker 6: can drive. Inside SO i wasn't dissing. HIM i was just, saying, 1497 01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:50,959 Speaker 6: like you, know he goes out there and plays really 1498 01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:54,720 Speaker 6: well when he, plays and he's. Tough so, Apologies, schumes 1499 01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:56,920 Speaker 6: apologies if he took offense to, this says D John. 1500 01:07:56,960 --> 01:08:02,880 Speaker 3: Schumann. Apology he stuck around all. Right next one. Here 1501 01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:06,120 Speaker 3: as we discussed earlier this, week Doctor, fauci the nation's 1502 01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:10,720 Speaker 3: leading infectious disease, expert has challenged MSNBC's Host Chris hayes 1503 01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:13,600 Speaker 3: to a one on one game of. Basketball we loved. 1504 01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:16,120 Speaker 3: It we were tweeting about. It Chris hayes was tweeting, 1505 01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:18,599 Speaker 3: back talking trash back To. Fauci was. Great we got 1506 01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:19,880 Speaker 3: to put it on pay per, View that's what we 1507 01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:22,160 Speaker 3: got to. Do but if that is the main, Event 1508 01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:26,240 Speaker 3: hayes Versus, fauci we need an, undercard. Guys, so which 1509 01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:29,240 Speaker 3: random celebrity would you like to challenge right now to 1510 01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:30,840 Speaker 3: a game of one on? One and what? 1511 01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:39,519 Speaker 4: Tasks hear, Me Bruno Mars he's nowhere Near John schuman's, 1512 01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:43,000 Speaker 4: HEIGHT i, know Or i'm buttering my. Bread i'm doing 1513 01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:44,880 Speaker 4: it in the posts And i'm taking him down, there 1514 01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:46,920 Speaker 4: And i'm taking care of business down. There i've always 1515 01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:50,320 Speaker 4: wanted to step On mars AND i shall do that 1516 01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:52,640 Speaker 4: with Mister. Bruno we'll get it done down. There AND 1517 01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:54,160 Speaker 4: i think he likes to play. BASKETBALL i think it 1518 01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:57,920 Speaker 4: WAS i don't. KNOW i mean maybe he's just like 1519 01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:01,120 Speaker 4: every every guy who you know has ever picked up a. 1520 01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:02,960 Speaker 4: Ball they do it in a music. VIDEO i feel 1521 01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:04,479 Speaker 4: Like i've seen him in a music video do, it 1522 01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:07,080 Speaker 4: but maybe. Not, Anyway i'll see him in the post 1523 01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:09,880 Speaker 4: and it'll be a spirited. Affair but ill With. 1524 01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:12,960 Speaker 3: OKAY i would love to pay. MONEY i would pay 1525 01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:15,519 Speaker 3: money to see, yeah task dink and dump On Bruno 1526 01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:18,120 Speaker 3: mars down in the post all. DAY i mean, crazy 1527 01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:20,760 Speaker 3: it's not. FAIR i mean how tall Is he's got 1528 01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:24,960 Speaker 3: to be five? Three, yeah, yeah he's he's. Tiny you 1529 01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:25,760 Speaker 3: can throw tiny on. 1530 01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:28,519 Speaker 4: HIM i guess it would be like the video Of 1531 01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:33,000 Speaker 4: Lee elis Versus medustin In area twenty one at The Turner. 1532 01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:35,479 Speaker 4: Studios JUST i feel Like Bruno mars would be. 1533 01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:38,960 Speaker 3: Scrappy yeah he almost beat you that, DAY i, remember, really, yeah, 1534 01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:42,240 Speaker 3: game he had a chance didn't he a beat? You, yeah, 1535 01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:45,840 Speaker 3: yeah you kept turning it over. Again it was All 1536 01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:49,120 Speaker 3: Matt austin For Defensive player of The. Year and he's 1537 01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:53,000 Speaker 3: Like Ben, simmons all, Right, trey what's a random. Celebrity 1538 01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:54,920 Speaker 3: who's a random surle celebrity you'd like to? 1539 01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:58,639 Speaker 5: Challenge give Me snoop dog task is going With Bruno. 1540 01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:01,320 Speaker 5: MARS i Want Snoop dogg similar, size you, KNOW i 1541 01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:04,439 Speaker 5: think He it's weird to me to say that a 1542 01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:09,120 Speaker 5: celebrity is listed at, something but he's listed at six foot, 1543 01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:13,160 Speaker 5: four maybe one hundred and twenty five, pounds just looking 1544 01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:14,960 Speaker 5: like A Polka schefski out. THERE i think it'd be 1545 01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:15,880 Speaker 5: a fun. GAME i want that. 1546 01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:19,240 Speaker 3: Smoke, Okay i'll be a great. GAME i Think tray 1547 01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:21,400 Speaker 3: Versus snoop And. Lee are you going with the musical 1548 01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:21,880 Speaker 3: artists as? 1549 01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:25,479 Speaker 6: WELL i am on going With rihanna because remember her 1550 01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:28,000 Speaker 6: at THE Nba. Finals there she was up talking trash 1551 01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:30,639 Speaker 6: To Kevin durant on the, sideline AND i think that's 1552 01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:32,400 Speaker 6: what she'd be like AT i think she'd be quite, 1553 01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:35,680 Speaker 6: feisty she'd be loving to talk, trash And i'd like 1554 01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:36,960 Speaker 6: to take her on in the game of WHAT i, 1555 01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:39,559 Speaker 6: Want so, yeah give Me, Rihanna, okay it'd be. 1556 01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:44,240 Speaker 4: Great she's listed at a pretty tall. Height AND i 1557 01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:46,400 Speaker 4: think we did look her up because we saw her 1558 01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:49,960 Speaker 4: on the streets Of toronto in twenty. ELEVEN i think 1559 01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:52,519 Speaker 4: we were. Randomly we're there. FOR i guess it was 1560 01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:55,439 Speaker 4: the end of our. Tour, anyway she was there. For 1561 01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:58,960 Speaker 4: it was for An All star. Event, anyway she was, 1562 01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:01,720 Speaker 4: tall she's five. NINE i think she's every. Anche shit 1563 01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:02,080 Speaker 4: is it? 1564 01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:08,240 Speaker 3: Okay final? One Zion williamson may have been the. VICTIM 1565 01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:11,120 Speaker 3: i guess he was in the end after the last 1566 01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:13,479 Speaker 3: two minute, report but the victim of a costly non 1567 01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:16,160 Speaker 3: call in The pelicans one fourteen to twelve loss to 1568 01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:19,439 Speaker 3: The nuggets earlier this week On. Wednesday but but But 1569 01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:22,439 Speaker 3: zion believes he'll receive more foul calls as he builds 1570 01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:25,960 Speaker 3: HIS nba. Resume. QUOTE i got to earn my respect 1571 01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:29,960 Speaker 3: only in your Two love that attitude From. Zion but 1572 01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:32,960 Speaker 3: my question off of this is what do you think 1573 01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:34,240 Speaker 3: you're most respected? 1574 01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:41,599 Speaker 4: For? Task probably singing, jingles especially for our. Advertisers i've 1575 01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:43,439 Speaker 4: had a few comments from people who work at The 1576 01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:46,640 Speaker 4: athletic who say it was a good ad BECAUSE i 1577 01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:51,479 Speaker 4: will sing any, easy cheesy, tune cheesy, song no, problem, 1578 01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:53,840 Speaker 4: Right i'll come up with the. Tune that's how my brain. 1579 01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:57,240 Speaker 4: Works oh there's a tune in my. Head, advertiser you 1580 01:11:57,320 --> 01:11:59,280 Speaker 4: got a, jingle and it also gets me out of 1581 01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:02,160 Speaker 4: having a real read your. Copy so, yeah that's that's 1582 01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:04,640 Speaker 4: WHERE i get my respect. FROM i think from. Advertisers 1583 01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:06,320 Speaker 4: i'm a. Sellout good, Answer. 1584 01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:09,759 Speaker 5: TRAY i mean people are still talking about tastes bombas 1585 01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:14,920 Speaker 5: ad reader and his labombas performance incredible. Stuff as for, Me, 1586 01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:19,080 Speaker 5: Skeets i'm the most respected butcher in basketball right, now 1587 01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:23,160 Speaker 5: so hot THE nba couldn't even handle. It but here's the, Thing, 1588 01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:26,320 Speaker 5: skeets my customers love me BECAUSE i bring him the, 1589 01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:29,120 Speaker 5: freshest most delicious. Beef SO i can't just let one 1590 01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:33,960 Speaker 5: sit on the. Shelves jd Roll that beautiful beef footage. 1591 01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:39,559 Speaker 2: All was A johnson had twenty one. Rebounds that's a 1592 01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:56,360 Speaker 2: lot of roast. Beef no, dugs we love roast, beef 1593 01:12:56,600 --> 01:13:03,559 Speaker 2: which is. Rebounds another big beef Versus, indy what's going? 1594 01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:07,360 Speaker 5: On thank you to the, pacers those corn cobs giving 1595 01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:09,200 Speaker 5: us a whole bunch of big beefs late in the. 1596 01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:13,360 Speaker 5: Season that's WHY i get the. Respects gezi got to 1597 01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:15,080 Speaker 5: put him in, there got to squeeze in the beef 1598 01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:16,360 Speaker 5: every now and then add to. 1599 01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:19,080 Speaker 3: IT i absolutely love. It And, lee you're gonna wrap this. 1600 01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:21,960 Speaker 3: Up what Is leela's most respected? 1601 01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:25,599 Speaker 6: For, LOOK i think it's nighttime book time reading because, 1602 01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:31,600 Speaker 6: nothing almost nothing can prevent that from happening every, night you, 1603 01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:35,240 Speaker 6: know SINCE i, remember Since sebastian turned three months, OLD i, 1604 01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:37,000 Speaker 6: Said i'm just going to read to him every single 1605 01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:38,880 Speaker 6: night until he's, like all, Right, Dad i've had. Enough 1606 01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:42,639 Speaker 6: it's been nearly nine years of reading every single. 1607 01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:43,160 Speaker 3: Night we went on. 1608 01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:44,960 Speaker 6: Home, Obviously i've been on the road every now and, 1609 01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:46,880 Speaker 6: again SO i don't do those. Nights but other than, 1610 01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:50,720 Speaker 6: that every single Night i've read to my, boys say 1611 01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:52,519 Speaker 6: and it's. Great SO i think they appreciate, it AND 1612 01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:54,400 Speaker 6: i think they love, it AND i Think rocksander respects 1613 01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:54,840 Speaker 6: that about. 1614 01:13:54,880 --> 01:14:00,640 Speaker 3: Me All, Right, okay that's it for Bar that's it 1615 01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:04,160 Speaker 3: for this drop. PODCAST. Jd good luck today and this 1616 01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:08,200 Speaker 3: weekend with all of your house maneuvers going, on buying 1617 01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:09,160 Speaker 3: and selling. 1618 01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:10,040 Speaker 5: And all that wheeling and. 1619 01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:13,360 Speaker 3: Dealing, yeah, BUDDY i Hope we have great news Come 1620 01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:16,880 Speaker 3: monday for you like comment subscribe To No dunks on. 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