Speaker 1: A group of high school students.
Speaker 2: High school students Elizabeth In high school students started a
Speaker 2: project to research a string of unsolved murders. Their research
Speaker 2: led to the identification.
Speaker 1: Of the killer.
Speaker 3: Investigators now have an answer to a thirty four year
Speaker 3: old question.
Speaker 4: Once you start getting a few tips, or a few leads,
Speaker 4: or few identifications, then the cold case isn't so cold anymore.
Speaker 4: There's a pretty good chance he's still alive. Everything that
Speaker 4: the students predicted through their profile turned out to be accurate.
Speaker 5: Redhead killer profile mal Caucasian, five nine six, two hundred
Speaker 5: and seventy pounds, unstable home, absent father, and a domineering mother,
Speaker 5: right handed, IQ above one hundred, most likely heterosexual.
Speaker 4: There is no profile of this killer except for the
Speaker 4: ones the students created.
Speaker 6: Just because some of these women no longer have people
Speaker 6: to speak for them does not mean that they desire
Speaker 6: to not be so anymore.
Speaker 7: What if this guy's still alive?
Speaker 8: Like what if becomes.
Speaker 9: After us kill me?
Speaker 10: Yes, this is Murder one oh one, Season one, Episode
Speaker 10: three starts spreading the news. I'm Jeff Sheen, a television
Speaker 10: and podcast producer at Kati Studios with Stephanie Leidecker, Courtney Armstrong,
Speaker 10: Andrew Arnold. As the semester drew to a close, high
Speaker 10: school teacher Alex Campbell discusses what the class was feeling.
Speaker 4: I think that some people feel that helping the police
Speaker 4: or solving crimes is something that we pay the professionals
Speaker 4: to do. But what I wanted to encourage the students
Speaker 4: to understand was that everybody has an obligation in the
Speaker 4: community and everybody can help in some way. Police have
Speaker 4: a hard time solving crimes if there's no witnesses, just
Speaker 4: because they weren't adults or they weren't police officers. I
Speaker 4: want them to still understand that they could do great
Speaker 4: work on their own. The semester was coming to a close.
Speaker 4: It was May, temperature was warm up, we just had
Speaker 4: a couple of weeks left in school. We led into
Speaker 4: the press conference stirred on them in that one victim
Speaker 4: identified Lisa Nichols, and it'd been over thirty years since
Speaker 4: she had been identified. So at this point we have
Speaker 4: two very good profiles. We have the offender profile, the
Speaker 4: criminal profile, and then we also have the victim profile,
Speaker 4: and as far as we know, nobody else has them.
Speaker 4: So our goal was just to really get this information
Speaker 4: out to everyone, you know, and as big a way
Speaker 4: as possible.
Speaker 10: Student Will Bowers remembers what it was like at school.
Speaker 11: In the school, I mean it was like it was unreal,
Speaker 11: like everybody was shocking, surprised, like around. I mean, you
Speaker 11: don't hear like high schools doing something like this.
Speaker 5: I want other students to know that they can do
Speaker 5: anything to set their mind too. Isn't the world isn't
Speaker 5: just limited to like you're a teenager, so you have work.
Speaker 5: If you work, yes, work in school. And that said,
Speaker 5: you can't go as far as you want it.
Speaker 8: You can go.
Speaker 5: You can do anything in life. Don't let no one
Speaker 5: stop you. There's hateful people, there's hateful teachers even but
Speaker 5: keep going no matter what.
Speaker 10: The plan for the press conference was for the students
Speaker 10: to present their findings in a big way. A few
Speaker 10: of the students from the class were selected to present
Speaker 10: the information in the Uncovered and its significance. One of
Speaker 10: them was Junior Wild Hours.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I was shocked that mister Campbell kicked me.
Speaker 12: I mean I'm okay speaking outside. I mean I usually
Speaker 12: done like the pet browleies at high school, but like that,
Speaker 12: this was the first time, like I really felt like
Speaker 12: super nervous or something.
Speaker 11: And I guess mister Campbell, since he's seen me do
Speaker 11: the fat browleyes, so you seen me done these little things,
Speaker 11: especially where I play sports and stuff like that, he
Speaker 11: knew that I was capable of doing it, which I
Speaker 11: never thought I would be. We basically made sure that
Speaker 11: I spoke correctly, made sure all my notes were on point,
Speaker 11: make sure I wasn't saying anything that that was false
Speaker 11: or anything like that. It was a process to get
Speaker 11: to where I was in front of the microphone that day.
Speaker 4: Young people have a lot of energy, and they also
Speaker 4: have a lot of passion. If you could help kind
Speaker 4: of focus that and find something that they're passionate about
Speaker 4: and let them use the energy, they will do more
Speaker 4: than you ever.
Speaker 1: Expected they could.
Speaker 13: So what most people don't know is that this project
Speaker 13: actually started with students getting curious about what learning could
Speaker 13: look like and ended with students digging into something really
Speaker 13: big and bold and compelling that had a life way
Speaker 13: beyond the confines of one class.
Speaker 10: Before we hear about the press conference, we think it's
Speaker 10: important for you to understand the origins of the original assignment.
Speaker 10: The project actually stemmed from a grant that the students
Speaker 10: had won from a company called XQ Institute. Founded in
Speaker 10: twenty fifteen. XQ Institute is the nation's leading nonprofit organization
Speaker 10: dedicated to improving school across the country.
Speaker 13: I'm Carrie Schneider. I'm the head of editorial at XQ Institute,
Speaker 13: and we're a nonprofit that's dedicated to rethinking high school.
Speaker 13: If you stop for a second and think back to
Speaker 13: your high school experience and like what things stood out
Speaker 13: to you as the moments that were even if it
Speaker 13: was like one day or one lesson or one thing
Speaker 13: in your high school, and you were like, oh, that
Speaker 13: was actually fun to me. Taking that one thing that
Speaker 13: you can remember about high school and making all of
Speaker 13: high school feel like that it doesn't have to be
Speaker 13: a boring, tedious march through like learn this, learn that,
Speaker 13: take the test, move on, go to the next thing.
Speaker 13: The way I met mister Campbell and all the teachers
Speaker 13: and students there was when they entered xq's National Super
Speaker 13: School Challenge, So way back in fifteen twenty sixteen, there
Speaker 13: was an open call to the country to come together
Speaker 13: and design the high school of the future. They didn't
Speaker 13: win the full grant and the full support for building
Speaker 13: a whole new school. They did win an XQ Student
Speaker 13: Leadership Award, so they got a smaller grant and scholarships
Speaker 13: for the kids that were involved, and then support to
Speaker 13: turn their initial ideas into a wider program.
Speaker 10: When working with XQ Institute, mister Campbell did something unique.
Speaker 10: He turned to his students for guidance.
Speaker 13: So mister Campbell presented to his students, like, look, guys,
Speaker 13: if we're going to really dig into this project stuff,
Speaker 13: what kinds of things are you interested in? And true
Speaker 13: crime things in our own community that stood out as
Speaker 13: something that the kids were interested in. He was like, cool,
Speaker 13: true crime, let's go, let's find some unsolved mysteries.
Speaker 10: Carrie remembers the first time she heard about the project.
Speaker 13: So, the first time I heard about this project was
Speaker 13: actually at an education conference. Mister Campbell was hosting a
Speaker 13: session on projects for teasatures and how to really connect
Speaker 13: with your students in this way. And he was in
Speaker 13: a room of probably forty or fifty teachers from across
Speaker 13: the country, and I was just kind of sitting and
Speaker 13: listening in and he just sort of dropped on the room.
Speaker 13: Oh and my students are actually solving a murder right now,
Speaker 13: you know, we're working on and you could just see
Speaker 13: people in the room go ah. You could physically observe
Speaker 13: teachers going wait a minute what. There were definitely skeptics.
Speaker 13: So he really stood up and said, you know, just
Speaker 13: think about how much their minds are changing, and what
Speaker 13: they're learning about the world, and what this means for
Speaker 13: thinking about people differently, and what we're learning about victims'
Speaker 13: rights and what we're learning about justice, and what we're
Speaker 13: learning about relationships and families and gender. The skeptics were
Speaker 13: kind of like, you know, I can't think of another
Speaker 13: example of the way kids can really get that much.
Speaker 13: So it's hard to argue with it when you see
Speaker 13: just how much they learned and how much they take
Speaker 13: away from it.
Speaker 10: When she heard about the press conference, Carrie knew it
Speaker 10: was a big deal.
Speaker 13: I remember that mister Campbell sent me an email letting
Speaker 13: me know that the press conference was happening and telling me,
Speaker 13: you know, creating a little fomo like you're not gonna
Speaker 13: be here, You're gonna have to wait until you find
Speaker 13: out the big news like everyone else. And he was
Speaker 13: so proud of his students and really excited to share
Speaker 13: the milestones that they were announcing in the press conference.
Speaker 13: That press conference represented a big moment for realizing the
Speaker 13: value of that project and the possibility of what kids
Speaker 13: can do. It's real now, because I think it was
Speaker 13: a big transition from a class project to something they
Speaker 13: were ready to really put it out in the world.
Speaker 10: Let's stop here for a break. We'll be back in
Speaker 10: a moment. Murder one on one. On May fifteenth, twenty eighteen,
Speaker 10: the big moment finally arrived.
Speaker 11: Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Is my privilege and honor
Speaker 11: to welcome you to our prest conference. My name is
Speaker 11: William Bowers, and I'm a part of mister Campbell's sociology class.
Speaker 11: Many of you or today are asking the same question
Speaker 11: while we're here, Why are we doing this? Why do
Speaker 11: we even care about this? Well, it starts thirty seven
Speaker 11: years ago when a man murdered an unknown woman and
Speaker 11: laid her body decided in the state. Four years later,
Speaker 11: five more women said the same faith those women would
Speaker 11: be founded along in the states and the highways across
Speaker 11: multiple states at the time of their death. The women
Speaker 11: were founded with reddish hair law enforcement at the time
Speaker 11: couldn't solve the murders due to the women never being
Speaker 11: identified and their transitive lifestyles. The cases became cold for
Speaker 11: over thirty five years until a few people asked, why
Speaker 11: hasn't the murderer and the women have been identified yet?
Speaker 10: Standing in front of six images of the Bible Belt
Speaker 10: stranglers victims, Junior Will Bauers spoke to roughly sixty people,
Speaker 10: including members of law enforcement, the press, and locals in
Speaker 10: the community.
Speaker 11: We spent months learning about the Redheaded murders. We learned
Speaker 11: what a serial killer is. We looked into the lives
Speaker 11: of some of the most infamous serial killers like Ted
Speaker 11: Bundy and Richard Chase.
Speaker 14: With the information providing and what we have learned, we
Speaker 14: were able to create an mo a, signature and the
Speaker 14: profile for the murderer. Without the hard work, grit, and
Speaker 14: determination by the students, we would never have this press
Speaker 14: conference to day. Martin Luther King Junior once said human
Speaker 14: progress it's neither automatic nor inedible. Every step towards the
Speaker 14: goal of justice requires sacrifice, suffering and struggle. The tires,
Speaker 14: extortions and passionate concerns of dedicated individuals. The men and
Speaker 14: women that you see here today are dedicated to these cases.
Speaker 11: The tireless work and effort by these individuals are the
Speaker 11: reason why these cases have been brought back.
Speaker 10: Shane Waters also spoke.
Speaker 15: Out of the six victims that we believe could be
Speaker 15: a part of the Redhead murders, all but one remain
Speaker 15: unidentified people. That's right, after more than thirty years, only
Speaker 15: one of these victims has a name. I felt defeated.
Speaker 15: I felt like I had no choice but to put
Speaker 15: the case down and move on to something easier. I
Speaker 15: can remember sitting at my computer about to drag this
Speaker 15: file on my desktop titled Redheads to the Trash, when
Speaker 15: I realized that this is the exact thing that is
Speaker 15: preventing this killer from being caught. More than that, I
Speaker 15: knew that this is what the killer assumed would happen
Speaker 15: each time he targeted a new victim. I believe he
Speaker 15: assumed that society wouldn't care that these women were gone.
Speaker 15: After all, if there is no family to come forward
Speaker 15: to fight for them, surely it will not be a
Speaker 15: story worth telling. Today, I stand here along with the
Speaker 15: high school sociology class, to remind the world of these
Speaker 15: six women. Today, we are their family. If the coward
Speaker 15: responsible for these murders is watching, I have a message
Speaker 15: for you. We will not stop. We will not forget.
Speaker 10: Senior Mason Peterson made an impassioned plea to the public.
Speaker 3: So we need the public's help. We need you to
Speaker 3: be aware of this case. We need you to share
Speaker 3: this case around with any info that we are giving
Speaker 3: you or what you already know. We need you to
Speaker 3: find people that may know something we don't. Then the
Speaker 3: people with this information should contact the police. There's no
Speaker 3: doubt that someone saw something and thought it was probably
Speaker 3: nothing or it's not that important. It could be something,
Speaker 3: whether big or small. It could lead to a big break.
Speaker 3: We want to help remember and identify the victims because
Speaker 3: it helps the police find what correlations their victims have
Speaker 3: with their perpetrator and bring him closer to justice. We
Speaker 3: also want to help the police find the Bible belt
Speaker 3: stranglers so he can be held accountable for his actions.
Speaker 10: Finally, mister Campbell spoke.
Speaker 4: During the course of this semester, the students have worked
Speaker 4: with professional profiler and members of law enforcement community, and
Speaker 4: these asperts explained to us that if you have the
Speaker 4: same mo and the same offender, signature in the same
Speaker 4: geographical area in the same period of time, then it's
Speaker 4: almost assuredly the same person responsible. So as a class,
Speaker 4: we began to look at each of the rough league
Speaker 4: dozen cases that are oftentimes referred to as the Redhead
Speaker 4: murders that took place from nineteen seventy eight until two
Speaker 4: thousand and one. But there were six of these murders
Speaker 4: that stood out because they were so similar, so our
Speaker 4: students began to focus on these. These murders occurred between
Speaker 4: nineteen eighty and eighty five, and the bodies were discovered
Speaker 4: between nineteen eighty three and eighty five, so we knew
Speaker 4: that we had six murders occurring in the same time period.
Speaker 4: So then we looked at geographic location and we found
Speaker 4: the same six murders, three in Tennessee, Campbell, Cheatham, and
Speaker 4: Green County, plus one in Wetzel County, West Virginia, with
Speaker 4: one just across the border in Knox County, Kentucky, and
Speaker 4: finally another one just across the border in West Memphis, Arkansas.
Speaker 4: They were all linked because of not just geographic proximity,
Speaker 4: but because they were connected by highways and interstates along
Speaker 4: the Knoxville Nashville Corridor. After concluding that we had the
Speaker 4: same location, same time period, same mo and same signature,
Speaker 4: we enlisted the help of professionals in evaluating our work.
Speaker 4: We consulted and they agreed with us that these six
Speaker 4: murders are most likely the work of one person. So
Speaker 4: since these murders happened around Tennessee and what is oftentimes
Speaker 4: referred to as the Bible bbble Belt, and most of
Speaker 4: the victims were strangled or suffocated, we have decided to
Speaker 4: name this serial killer the Bible Belt strangler. Today, we're
Speaker 4: making these documents publicly available to the media and the public,
Speaker 4: including the eight page psychological profile. Sadly, murder has been
Speaker 4: around as long as humanity. People think they can commit
Speaker 4: such acts and get away from the prying eyes of public.
Speaker 1: And they'll never be seen. They'll think there'll be no witnesses.
Speaker 4: They think they're too good at their craft, they think
Speaker 4: they're too smart. But often when some time is passed,
Speaker 4: they feel like they're never going to be caught. But
Speaker 4: the monster we now seek took the lives of six
Speaker 4: women that we feel he intentionally targeted because they were
Speaker 4: out on the rown alone with no family and no friends.
Speaker 4: Their lives were most likely stolen from them in the
Speaker 4: dark back parking, loss of truck stops and rest areas,
Speaker 4: and then dumped along lonely highways at night where he
Speaker 4: thought no one would see him. And he's eluded justice
Speaker 4: for almost forty years. But the Bible Belt Stranglers wrong.
Speaker 4: He made a mistake. Somebody saw something, somebody's heard something.
Speaker 4: The blood of these six women that was spilled into
Speaker 4: the overgrown hedges of our nation's highways and interstates has
Speaker 4: gone unnoticed for way too long. And today we are
Speaker 4: here to recognize these voices and give them justice for
Speaker 4: which they're still crying out. We want the media to
Speaker 4: hear their cry as well, so the people out there
Speaker 4: with the information that law enforcement needs to identify these
Speaker 4: victims and solve these crimes can come forward. So, Bible
Speaker 4: Belt Strangler, we know you're out there. We know that
Speaker 4: somebody has information to help find you and hold you accountable.
Speaker 4: And after today, everyone knows that we're looking for you.
Speaker 4: And today everyone knows that we are our sisters keepers,
Speaker 4: because we're like family. And this time, no matter how
Speaker 4: hard you squeeze your evil hands, you will never be
Speaker 4: able to silence their crimes.
Speaker 10: Now years later, mister Campbell reflects on the press conference
Speaker 10: and its impact on not just the students, but the
Speaker 10: case as a whole.
Speaker 4: Right before will and it's a different ones. Stepped to
Speaker 4: the microphone. I said, I just want you to know
Speaker 4: if the Bible Belt strangler is still alive, he's probably
Speaker 4: watching right now.
Speaker 1: Now go out there and do the press conference. And
Speaker 1: they looked at me like, oh, that was terrible, why
Speaker 1: did you do that?
Speaker 4: But really, when I stepped to the microphone I spoke
Speaker 4: to the Bible belt strangler, I was full of so
Speaker 4: much emotion and I didn't think it would be that way.
Speaker 4: You know, again, I'm removed from these murders and these
Speaker 4: cases and I didn't know them, but I almost started crying.
Speaker 4: I could just feel the emotion, just feeling me, and
Speaker 4: you know, to realize that there are people out there
Speaker 4: and they deserve to be brought to justice, and that
Speaker 4: I could literally be speaking of them, they could be
Speaker 4: watching me on the live stream. It was kind of
Speaker 4: surreal experience that really maybe more emotional than I thought
Speaker 4: I would be. I was worried about the students. You know,
Speaker 4: they're young, they're used to speaking in public, but I
Speaker 4: probably should have been worried about myself. I think the
Speaker 4: closer they got into the case and looking at the case,
Speaker 4: they realized that they might actually be able to change something.
Speaker 4: I think, especially young people today, feel like if they
Speaker 4: do work, they want something to come out of it,
Speaker 4: and I believe that this press conference made them feel
Speaker 4: like that in the future something good could come from
Speaker 4: their work.
Speaker 13: That press conference really put the kids out there. Wasn't
Speaker 13: adults speaking with kids in the background, but it was
Speaker 13: really representative of the kind of belief that mister Campbell
Speaker 13: has in his students and Elizabethton has in their high school,
Speaker 13: and the belief that XQ has in the potential of
Speaker 13: young people and the potential of educators to create these
Speaker 13: environments for students. I think for mister Campbell and for
Speaker 13: those kids, it was a moment of real vulnerability and
Speaker 13: a moment to really put themselves out there in a
Speaker 13: way to say they believed in what they had done,
Speaker 13: and they believed in the power of their research and
Speaker 13: the power of their position and the power of their findings.
Speaker 13: And for us, that was a big moment for us
Speaker 13: at XQ to go, yes, this is what we mean.
Speaker 13: This is what rethinking high school looks like. This is
Speaker 13: exactly what young people can do. Now, let's make sure
Speaker 13: it's not just one class in one high school in
Speaker 13: one town in Tennessee, but it's happening for kids everywhere.
Speaker 10: You can find more about XQ Institute at XQ America,
Speaker 10: across all socials.
Speaker 4: All these TV stations are running the story and it
Speaker 4: got a lot of attention. Matter of fact, it got
Speaker 4: so much attention it went national. We got in Oxygen
Speaker 4: True Crime today. Like all these these people were covering it.
Speaker 2: A group of Elizabethan High School students started a project
Speaker 2: to research a string of unsolved murders from thirty years ago.
Speaker 7: For three decades, the mystery had remained unsolved. Six redheaded
Speaker 7: women strangled and left on the side of a highway.
Speaker 7: Only one victim's name was even known. That's when a
Speaker 7: group of elizabeth In High School students started their research.
Speaker 8: A group of high school student detectives are investigating a
Speaker 8: series of unsolved killings.
Speaker 16: Students from elizabeth And High School presented their research on
Speaker 16: what is known as the Redhead Murders. Over the last semester,
Speaker 16: the students have studied several cold cases spanning the South.
Speaker 16: The cases all have several things connecting them, including the
Speaker 16: victim's hair color. Students created a profile of the suspected
Speaker 16: killer and named him the Bible Belt strangler.
Speaker 8: Students in Elizabethton had a class where they investigated these murders.
Speaker 4: I think this media attention really did a lot to
Speaker 4: bring eyes back to the case and help, you know,
Speaker 4: make the cases not so cold. So what happened was
Speaker 4: the students had tried to bring.
Speaker 1: The case back up. It had this media blitz, It'd
Speaker 1: been featured all over the nation.
Speaker 4: They have a name for the killer, they have a
Speaker 4: way to separate the six out from the rest of
Speaker 4: the victims.
Speaker 1: People start calling the TBI, and they start.
Speaker 4: Calling the local police agencies, and they start saying, well,
Speaker 4: you know, what does this mean.
Speaker 1: Are we looking at other cases? Are these related to
Speaker 1: any others?
Speaker 4: Could she have been killed, you know, by the same
Speaker 4: person as somebody else? And I think it just it
Speaker 4: just really got a media firestorm really going, and it
Speaker 4: brought up a lot of attention back to these cases.
Speaker 4: Once you start getting a few tips or a few leads,
Speaker 4: or you know, a few identifications, then the cold case
Speaker 4: isn't so cold.
Speaker 16: Anymore.
Speaker 1: There's a huge true crime whatever you call them, what
Speaker 1: citizen sleuth kind of community out there.
Speaker 4: They And so what happened was there was a lady
Speaker 4: who spent a lot of time on these kind of
Speaker 4: missing persons websites and Jane go kind of websites. So
Speaker 4: she heard the podcast that the students were featured on,
Speaker 4: and she thought, huh, here's six victims. Here's six bodies,
Speaker 4: and they look like this.
Speaker 1: They're this age, there're this weight, this height, whatever.
Speaker 4: And then she was also looking at these missing person
Speaker 4: websites and she noticed that a missing person she felt
Speaker 4: matched up with this victim. It was shortly after they disappeared,
Speaker 4: so she actually said, I think that this missing person
Speaker 4: may be here, Jane Doe to Campbell County Jain Doe,
Speaker 4: and that tip was submitted to the TBI, and pretty
Speaker 4: soon the TBI was traveling to Indiana to find her
Speaker 4: relatives and take DNA swaps, and sure enough, it did
Speaker 4: turn out to be that missing person.
Speaker 10: Let's stop here for another quick break murder.
Speaker 9: One on one, A woman who thinks Jane Doe is
Speaker 9: her mother is sharing her story hoping it'll give identity
Speaker 9: to the woman left dead inside of a discarded fridge.
Speaker 8: Many believe the person who killed the Jane Doe also
Speaker 8: killed six other redheaded women. All but one of those
Speaker 8: are also unidentified. He's called the Bible Belt strangler and
Speaker 8: he's never been caught.
Speaker 17: Well.
Speaker 4: I saw the headline that said, you know one of
Speaker 4: redhead murders victims identified.
Speaker 1: That's when it got really intense.
Speaker 8: The Campbell County Jane Doe has now been identified as
Speaker 8: Tina Marie McKenny. Like McKenny, four of the other five
Speaker 8: victims were Jane doe'es. The autopsy suggested that she was strangled.
Speaker 18: I want you ought to know this is Tina laying here,
Speaker 18: and she does matter, and she deliver her and she
Speaker 18: didn't abandon her. And she does have a family.
Speaker 15: She had us, Tinas, and he took her from me.
Speaker 10: Shane Waters ended up speaking to Tina's sister, Liza Plummer.
Speaker 18: She was still that quiet little kid that sat in
Speaker 18: that corner and nicest can be. She was naive. Our
Speaker 18: life was hell at home.
Speaker 6: The family inquired about Farmer. They were told that she
Speaker 6: didn't want to come back with them, and she had
Speaker 6: left with the truckers, said to be headed to Kentucky.
Speaker 6: The family did not believe that story. Her family reported
Speaker 6: her missing to the authorities at this time, Yet authorities
Speaker 6: in Indiana did not enter her international databases. The state
Speaker 6: did not have a law common to many other states,
Speaker 6: requiring law enforcement to enter unidentified victims into this database.
Speaker 10: Tina's sister Liza told the story the last time she
Speaker 10: saw Tina.
Speaker 2: Tina was nineteen.
Speaker 18: I was turned eighteen, and that's when her and dad
Speaker 18: got into it. And my dad he was just be honest,
Speaker 18: a mean ass, that's just how he was, and Tina cried.
Speaker 18: I went inside. Me and Dad had some words, and
Speaker 18: we went out into the van and slept in Scott's
Speaker 18: band that was my boyfriend then, and I woke up
Speaker 18: the next morning. Tina left me note saying she didn't
Speaker 18: want to make trouble to me and Dad, and she
Speaker 18: just left. So I'm fearing that she probably went across
Speaker 18: the street, used the phone booth and called someone to
Speaker 18: come and get her.
Speaker 10: Eliza recalls realizing that something truly bad had happened to
Speaker 10: her sister. Tina.
Speaker 12: I used to.
Speaker 18: Always tell I said now the minute Dad passed on,
Speaker 18: I know it's a terrible thing to said then my
Speaker 18: dad left us earth she would have came back. And
Speaker 18: when my dad was gone and she didn't come back,
Speaker 18: on kneed Tina was gone. I've been on this since
Speaker 18: I think two thousand and four, hard, really hard on it,
Speaker 18: and I just got bits and pieces here and there.
Speaker 19: No one from the investigation has been in touch with
Speaker 19: you to let you know anything.
Speaker 12: No, they put it the nath REGs.
Speaker 18: They've paid aneath rig.
Speaker 15: I think the most thing about this for me, though,
Speaker 15: is had the police worked into this back then, they
Speaker 15: would have heard the story, probably found her.
Speaker 11: Maybe linked together, yeah, linked.
Speaker 10: Tina's neighbor at the time, a woman named Tammy, was
Speaker 10: also present and said something that couldn't be ignored.
Speaker 6: Dicky said, and Geneva, she was saying to you that
Speaker 6: she had run off with a truck driver.
Speaker 18: He told us, Yeah, that she had run off with
Speaker 18: the truck driver. When I go buy interstates, I break.
Speaker 1: I stand truck driver, I break.
Speaker 8: Because no one know.
Speaker 18: But see, the stories are in my head.
Speaker 10: They're never going to leave my head.
Speaker 1: Is you know she mattered, she was here, she was fine.
Speaker 10: The truck driver revealed was an eerie callback to what
Speaker 10: the FBI analyst and the students had predicted.
Speaker 17: You know, these bodies are being done along the interstates.
Speaker 17: First thought to the kids was, Hey, if I was
Speaker 17: in your shoes and I was an investigator's case. As
Speaker 17: a detective, my first thought would be because these bodies
Speaker 17: are being dumped on the side of NY State by
Speaker 17: a gut feeling and experience tells me if it's.
Speaker 4: A truck driver.
Speaker 11: But we knew it had to be a truck driver.
Speaker 5: He's pretty stocky, you know, truck driver type.
Speaker 11: He's a truck driver.
Speaker 10: Soon the most shocking twist would come to late.
Speaker 19: Good afternoon. I am Jared E. Fler, the elected District
Speaker 19: Attorney for Tennessee's eighth Judicial District, of which Campbell County
Speaker 19: is a part of. On January the first, nineteen eighty five,
Speaker 19: an unidentified female body was discovered murdered along Interstate seventy
Speaker 19: five and Campbell County, Tennessee. At that time, an investigation
Speaker 19: was launched by the TBI to determine two things, the
Speaker 19: identity of the unknown female and who was responsible for
Speaker 19: her death. Yesterday, the results of that investigation were presented
Speaker 19: to the Campbell County Grand Jury.
Speaker 3: The grand jury.
Speaker 19: Found that the unidentified body was that of Tina Marie
Speaker 19: Farmer of Marion County, Indiana. Additionally, the grand jury found
Speaker 19: that there was a fiship proof to believe that Jerry
Speaker 19: Johns of Cleveland, Tennessee caused her death.
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