WEBVTT - Start Spreading the News

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<v Speaker 1>A group of high school students.

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<v Speaker 2>High school students Elizabeth In high school students started a

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<v Speaker 2>project to research a string of unsolved murders. Their research

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<v Speaker 2>led to the identification.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the killer.

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<v Speaker 3>Investigators now have an answer to a thirty four year

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<v Speaker 3>old question.

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<v Speaker 4>Once you start getting a few tips, or a few leads,

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<v Speaker 4>or few identifications, then the cold case isn't so cold anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a pretty good chance he's still alive. Everything that

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<v Speaker 4>the students predicted through their profile turned out to be accurate.

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<v Speaker 5>Redhead killer profile mal Caucasian, five nine six, two hundred

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<v Speaker 5>and seventy pounds, unstable home, absent father, and a domineering mother,

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<v Speaker 5>right handed, IQ above one hundred, most likely heterosexual.

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<v Speaker 4>There is no profile of this killer except for the

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<v Speaker 4>ones the students created.

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<v Speaker 6>Just because some of these women no longer have people

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<v Speaker 6>to speak for them does not mean that they desire

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<v Speaker 6>to not be so anymore.

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<v Speaker 7>What if this guy's still alive?

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<v Speaker 8>Like what if becomes.

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<v Speaker 9>After us kill me?

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<v Speaker 10>Yes, this is Murder one oh one, Season one, Episode

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<v Speaker 10>three starts spreading the news. I'm Jeff Sheen, a television

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<v Speaker 10>and podcast producer at Kati Studios with Stephanie Leidecker, Courtney Armstrong,

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<v Speaker 10>Andrew Arnold. As the semester drew to a close, high

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<v Speaker 10>school teacher Alex Campbell discusses what the class was feeling.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that some people feel that helping the police

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<v Speaker 4>or solving crimes is something that we pay the professionals

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<v Speaker 4>to do. But what I wanted to encourage the students

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<v Speaker 4>to understand was that everybody has an obligation in the

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<v Speaker 4>community and everybody can help in some way. Police have

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<v Speaker 4>a hard time solving crimes if there's no witnesses, just

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<v Speaker 4>because they weren't adults or they weren't police officers. I

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<v Speaker 4>want them to still understand that they could do great

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<v Speaker 4>work on their own. The semester was coming to a close.

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<v Speaker 4>It was May, temperature was warm up, we just had

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<v Speaker 4>a couple of weeks left in school. We led into

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<v Speaker 4>the press conference stirred on them in that one victim

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<v Speaker 4>identified Lisa Nichols, and it'd been over thirty years since

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<v Speaker 4>she had been identified. So at this point we have

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<v Speaker 4>two very good profiles. We have the offender profile, the

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<v Speaker 4>criminal profile, and then we also have the victim profile,

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<v Speaker 4>and as far as we know, nobody else has them.

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<v Speaker 4>So our goal was just to really get this information

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<v Speaker 4>out to everyone, you know, and as big a way

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<v Speaker 4>as possible.

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<v Speaker 10>Student Will Bowers remembers what it was like at school.

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<v Speaker 11>In the school, I mean it was like it was unreal,

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<v Speaker 11>like everybody was shocking, surprised, like around. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 11>don't hear like high schools doing something like this.

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<v Speaker 5>I want other students to know that they can do

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<v Speaker 5>anything to set their mind too. Isn't the world isn't

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<v Speaker 5>just limited to like you're a teenager, so you have work.

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<v Speaker 5>If you work, yes, work in school. And that said,

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<v Speaker 5>you can't go as far as you want it.

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<v Speaker 8>You can go.

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<v Speaker 5>You can do anything in life. Don't let no one

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<v Speaker 5>stop you. There's hateful people, there's hateful teachers even but

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<v Speaker 5>keep going no matter what.

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<v Speaker 10>The plan for the press conference was for the students

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<v Speaker 10>to present their findings in a big way. A few

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<v Speaker 10>of the students from the class were selected to present

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<v Speaker 10>the information in the Uncovered and its significance. One of

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<v Speaker 10>them was Junior Wild Hours.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, I was shocked that mister Campbell kicked me.

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<v Speaker 12>I mean I'm okay speaking outside. I mean I usually

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<v Speaker 12>done like the pet browleies at high school, but like that,

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<v Speaker 12>this was the first time, like I really felt like

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<v Speaker 12>super nervous or something.

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<v Speaker 11>And I guess mister Campbell, since he's seen me do

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<v Speaker 11>the fat browleyes, so you seen me done these little things,

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<v Speaker 11>especially where I play sports and stuff like that, he

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<v Speaker 11>knew that I was capable of doing it, which I

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<v Speaker 11>never thought I would be. We basically made sure that

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<v Speaker 11>I spoke correctly, made sure all my notes were on point,

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<v Speaker 11>make sure I wasn't saying anything that that was false

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<v Speaker 11>or anything like that. It was a process to get

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<v Speaker 11>to where I was in front of the microphone that day.

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<v Speaker 4>Young people have a lot of energy, and they also

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<v Speaker 4>have a lot of passion. If you could help kind

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<v Speaker 4>of focus that and find something that they're passionate about

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<v Speaker 4>and let them use the energy, they will do more

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<v Speaker 4>than you ever.

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<v Speaker 1>Expected they could.

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<v Speaker 13>So what most people don't know is that this project

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<v Speaker 13>actually started with students getting curious about what learning could

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<v Speaker 13>look like and ended with students digging into something really

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<v Speaker 13>big and bold and compelling that had a life way

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<v Speaker 13>beyond the confines of one class.

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<v Speaker 10>Before we hear about the press conference, we think it's

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<v Speaker 10>important for you to understand the origins of the original assignment.

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<v Speaker 10>The project actually stemmed from a grant that the students

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<v Speaker 10>had won from a company called XQ Institute. Founded in

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<v Speaker 10>twenty fifteen. XQ Institute is the nation's leading nonprofit organization

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<v Speaker 10>dedicated to improving school across the country.

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<v Speaker 13>I'm Carrie Schneider. I'm the head of editorial at XQ Institute,

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<v Speaker 13>and we're a nonprofit that's dedicated to rethinking high school.

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<v Speaker 13>If you stop for a second and think back to

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<v Speaker 13>your high school experience and like what things stood out

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<v Speaker 13>to you as the moments that were even if it

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<v Speaker 13>was like one day or one lesson or one thing

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<v Speaker 13>in your high school, and you were like, oh, that

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<v Speaker 13>was actually fun to me. Taking that one thing that

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<v Speaker 13>you can remember about high school and making all of

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<v Speaker 13>high school feel like that it doesn't have to be

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<v Speaker 13>a boring, tedious march through like learn this, learn that,

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<v Speaker 13>take the test, move on, go to the next thing.

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<v Speaker 13>The way I met mister Campbell and all the teachers

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<v Speaker 13>and students there was when they entered xq's National Super

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<v Speaker 13>School Challenge, So way back in fifteen twenty sixteen, there

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<v Speaker 13>was an open call to the country to come together

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<v Speaker 13>and design the high school of the future. They didn't

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<v Speaker 13>win the full grant and the full support for building

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<v Speaker 13>a whole new school. They did win an XQ Student

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<v Speaker 13>Leadership Award, so they got a smaller grant and scholarships

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<v Speaker 13>for the kids that were involved, and then support to

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<v Speaker 13>turn their initial ideas into a wider program.

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<v Speaker 10>When working with XQ Institute, mister Campbell did something unique.

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<v Speaker 10>He turned to his students for guidance.

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<v Speaker 13>So mister Campbell presented to his students, like, look, guys,

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<v Speaker 13>if we're going to really dig into this project stuff,

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<v Speaker 13>what kinds of things are you interested in? And true

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<v Speaker 13>crime things in our own community that stood out as

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<v Speaker 13>something that the kids were interested in. He was like, cool,

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<v Speaker 13>true crime, let's go, let's find some unsolved mysteries.

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<v Speaker 10>Carrie remembers the first time she heard about the project.

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<v Speaker 13>So, the first time I heard about this project was

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<v Speaker 13>actually at an education conference. Mister Campbell was hosting a

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<v Speaker 13>session on projects for teasatures and how to really connect

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<v Speaker 13>with your students in this way. And he was in

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<v Speaker 13>a room of probably forty or fifty teachers from across

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<v Speaker 13>the country, and I was just kind of sitting and

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<v Speaker 13>listening in and he just sort of dropped on the room.

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<v Speaker 13>Oh and my students are actually solving a murder right now,

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<v Speaker 13>you know, we're working on and you could just see

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<v Speaker 13>people in the room go ah. You could physically observe

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<v Speaker 13>teachers going wait a minute what. There were definitely skeptics.

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<v Speaker 13>So he really stood up and said, you know, just

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<v Speaker 13>think about how much their minds are changing, and what

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<v Speaker 13>they're learning about the world, and what this means for

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<v Speaker 13>thinking about people differently, and what we're learning about victims'

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<v Speaker 13>rights and what we're learning about justice, and what we're

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<v Speaker 13>learning about relationships and families and gender. The skeptics were

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<v Speaker 13>kind of like, you know, I can't think of another

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<v Speaker 13>example of the way kids can really get that much.

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<v Speaker 13>So it's hard to argue with it when you see

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<v Speaker 13>just how much they learned and how much they take

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<v Speaker 13>away from it.

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<v Speaker 10>When she heard about the press conference, Carrie knew it

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<v Speaker 10>was a big deal.

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<v Speaker 13>I remember that mister Campbell sent me an email letting

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<v Speaker 13>me know that the press conference was happening and telling me,

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<v Speaker 13>you know, creating a little fomo like you're not gonna

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<v Speaker 13>be here, You're gonna have to wait until you find

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<v Speaker 13>out the big news like everyone else. And he was

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<v Speaker 13>so proud of his students and really excited to share

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<v Speaker 13>the milestones that they were announcing in the press conference.

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<v Speaker 13>That press conference represented a big moment for realizing the

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<v Speaker 13>value of that project and the possibility of what kids

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<v Speaker 13>can do. It's real now, because I think it was

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<v Speaker 13>a big transition from a class project to something they

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<v Speaker 13>were ready to really put it out in the world.

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<v Speaker 10>Let's stop here for a break. We'll be back in

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<v Speaker 10>a moment. Murder one on one. On May fifteenth, twenty eighteen,

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<v Speaker 10>the big moment finally arrived.

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<v Speaker 11>Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Is my privilege and honor

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<v Speaker 11>to welcome you to our prest conference. My name is

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<v Speaker 11>William Bowers, and I'm a part of mister Campbell's sociology class.

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<v Speaker 11>Many of you or today are asking the same question

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<v Speaker 11>while we're here, Why are we doing this? Why do

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<v Speaker 11>we even care about this? Well, it starts thirty seven

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<v Speaker 11>years ago when a man murdered an unknown woman and

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<v Speaker 11>laid her body decided in the state. Four years later,

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<v Speaker 11>five more women said the same faith those women would

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<v Speaker 11>be founded along in the states and the highways across

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<v Speaker 11>multiple states at the time of their death. The women

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<v Speaker 11>were founded with reddish hair law enforcement at the time

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<v Speaker 11>couldn't solve the murders due to the women never being

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<v Speaker 11>identified and their transitive lifestyles. The cases became cold for

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<v Speaker 11>over thirty five years until a few people asked, why

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<v Speaker 11>hasn't the murderer and the women have been identified yet?

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<v Speaker 10>Standing in front of six images of the Bible Belt

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<v Speaker 10>stranglers victims, Junior Will Bauers spoke to roughly sixty people,

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<v Speaker 10>including members of law enforcement, the press, and locals in

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<v Speaker 10>the community.

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<v Speaker 11>We spent months learning about the Redheaded murders. We learned

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<v Speaker 11>what a serial killer is. We looked into the lives

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<v Speaker 11>of some of the most infamous serial killers like Ted

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<v Speaker 11>Bundy and Richard Chase.

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<v Speaker 14>With the information providing and what we have learned, we

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<v Speaker 14>were able to create an mo a, signature and the

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<v Speaker 14>profile for the murderer. Without the hard work, grit, and

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<v Speaker 14>determination by the students, we would never have this press

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<v Speaker 14>conference to day. Martin Luther King Junior once said human

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<v Speaker 14>progress it's neither automatic nor inedible. Every step towards the

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<v Speaker 14>goal of justice requires sacrifice, suffering and struggle. The tires,

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<v Speaker 14>extortions and passionate concerns of dedicated individuals. The men and

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<v Speaker 14>women that you see here today are dedicated to these cases.

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<v Speaker 11>The tireless work and effort by these individuals are the

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<v Speaker 11>reason why these cases have been brought back.

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<v Speaker 10>Shane Waters also spoke.

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<v Speaker 15>Out of the six victims that we believe could be

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<v Speaker 15>a part of the Redhead murders, all but one remain

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<v Speaker 15>unidentified people. That's right, after more than thirty years, only

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<v Speaker 15>one of these victims has a name. I felt defeated.

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<v Speaker 15>I felt like I had no choice but to put

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<v Speaker 15>the case down and move on to something easier. I

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<v Speaker 15>can remember sitting at my computer about to drag this

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<v Speaker 15>file on my desktop titled Redheads to the Trash, when

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<v Speaker 15>I realized that this is the exact thing that is

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<v Speaker 15>preventing this killer from being caught. More than that, I

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<v Speaker 15>knew that this is what the killer assumed would happen

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<v Speaker 15>each time he targeted a new victim. I believe he

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<v Speaker 15>assumed that society wouldn't care that these women were gone.

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<v Speaker 15>After all, if there is no family to come forward

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<v Speaker 15>to fight for them, surely it will not be a

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<v Speaker 15>story worth telling. Today, I stand here along with the

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<v Speaker 15>high school sociology class, to remind the world of these

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<v Speaker 15>six women. Today, we are their family. If the coward

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<v Speaker 15>responsible for these murders is watching, I have a message

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<v Speaker 15>for you. We will not stop. We will not forget.

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<v Speaker 10>Senior Mason Peterson made an impassioned plea to the public.

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<v Speaker 3>So we need the public's help. We need you to

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<v Speaker 3>be aware of this case. We need you to share

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<v Speaker 3>this case around with any info that we are giving

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<v Speaker 3>you or what you already know. We need you to

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<v Speaker 3>find people that may know something we don't. Then the

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<v Speaker 3>people with this information should contact the police. There's no

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<v Speaker 3>doubt that someone saw something and thought it was probably

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<v Speaker 3>nothing or it's not that important. It could be something,

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<v Speaker 3>whether big or small. It could lead to a big break.

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<v Speaker 3>We want to help remember and identify the victims because

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<v Speaker 3>it helps the police find what correlations their victims have

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<v Speaker 3>with their perpetrator and bring him closer to justice. We

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<v Speaker 3>also want to help the police find the Bible belt

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<v Speaker 3>stranglers so he can be held accountable for his actions.

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<v Speaker 10>Finally, mister Campbell spoke.

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<v Speaker 4>During the course of this semester, the students have worked

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<v Speaker 4>with professional profiler and members of law enforcement community, and

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<v Speaker 4>these asperts explained to us that if you have the

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<v Speaker 4>same mo and the same offender, signature in the same

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<v Speaker 4>geographical area in the same period of time, then it's

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<v Speaker 4>almost assuredly the same person responsible. So as a class,

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<v Speaker 4>we began to look at each of the rough league

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<v Speaker 4>dozen cases that are oftentimes referred to as the Redhead

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<v Speaker 4>murders that took place from nineteen seventy eight until two

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<v Speaker 4>thousand and one. But there were six of these murders

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<v Speaker 4>that stood out because they were so similar, so our

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<v Speaker 4>students began to focus on these. These murders occurred between

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<v Speaker 4>nineteen eighty and eighty five, and the bodies were discovered

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<v Speaker 4>between nineteen eighty three and eighty five, so we knew

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<v Speaker 4>that we had six murders occurring in the same time period.

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<v Speaker 4>So then we looked at geographic location and we found

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<v Speaker 4>the same six murders, three in Tennessee, Campbell, Cheatham, and

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<v Speaker 4>Green County, plus one in Wetzel County, West Virginia, with

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<v Speaker 4>one just across the border in Knox County, Kentucky, and

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<v Speaker 4>finally another one just across the border in West Memphis, Arkansas.

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<v Speaker 4>They were all linked because of not just geographic proximity,

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<v Speaker 4>but because they were connected by highways and interstates along

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<v Speaker 4>the Knoxville Nashville Corridor. After concluding that we had the

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<v Speaker 4>same location, same time period, same mo and same signature,

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<v Speaker 4>we enlisted the help of professionals in evaluating our work.

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<v Speaker 4>We consulted and they agreed with us that these six

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<v Speaker 4>murders are most likely the work of one person. So

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<v Speaker 4>since these murders happened around Tennessee and what is oftentimes

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<v Speaker 4>referred to as the Bible bbble Belt, and most of

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<v Speaker 4>the victims were strangled or suffocated, we have decided to

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<v Speaker 4>name this serial killer the Bible Belt strangler. Today, we're

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<v Speaker 4>making these documents publicly available to the media and the public,

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<v Speaker 4>including the eight page psychological profile. Sadly, murder has been

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<v Speaker 4>around as long as humanity. People think they can commit

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<v Speaker 4>such acts and get away from the prying eyes of public.

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<v Speaker 1>And they'll never be seen. They'll think there'll be no witnesses.

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<v Speaker 4>They think they're too good at their craft, they think

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<v Speaker 4>they're too smart. But often when some time is passed,

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<v Speaker 4>they feel like they're never going to be caught. But

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<v Speaker 4>the monster we now seek took the lives of six

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<v Speaker 4>women that we feel he intentionally targeted because they were

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<v Speaker 4>out on the rown alone with no family and no friends.

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<v Speaker 4>Their lives were most likely stolen from them in the

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<v Speaker 4>dark back parking, loss of truck stops and rest areas,

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<v Speaker 4>and then dumped along lonely highways at night where he

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<v Speaker 4>thought no one would see him. And he's eluded justice

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<v Speaker 4>for almost forty years. But the Bible Belt Stranglers wrong.

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<v Speaker 4>He made a mistake. Somebody saw something, somebody's heard something.

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<v Speaker 4>The blood of these six women that was spilled into

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<v Speaker 4>the overgrown hedges of our nation's highways and interstates has

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<v Speaker 4>gone unnoticed for way too long. And today we are

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<v Speaker 4>here to recognize these voices and give them justice for

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<v Speaker 4>which they're still crying out. We want the media to

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<v Speaker 4>hear their cry as well, so the people out there

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<v Speaker 4>with the information that law enforcement needs to identify these

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<v Speaker 4>victims and solve these crimes can come forward. So, Bible

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<v Speaker 4>Belt Strangler, we know you're out there. We know that

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<v Speaker 4>somebody has information to help find you and hold you accountable.

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<v Speaker 4>And after today, everyone knows that we're looking for you.

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<v Speaker 4>And today everyone knows that we are our sisters keepers,

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<v Speaker 4>because we're like family. And this time, no matter how

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<v Speaker 4>hard you squeeze your evil hands, you will never be

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<v Speaker 4>able to silence their crimes.

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<v Speaker 10>Now years later, mister Campbell reflects on the press conference

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<v Speaker 10>and its impact on not just the students, but the

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<v Speaker 10>case as a whole.

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<v Speaker 4>Right before will and it's a different ones. Stepped to

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<v Speaker 4>the microphone. I said, I just want you to know

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<v Speaker 4>if the Bible Belt strangler is still alive, he's probably

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<v Speaker 4>watching right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Now go out there and do the press conference. And

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<v Speaker 1>they looked at me like, oh, that was terrible, why

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<v Speaker 1>did you do that?

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<v Speaker 4>But really, when I stepped to the microphone I spoke

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<v Speaker 4>to the Bible belt strangler, I was full of so

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<v Speaker 4>much emotion and I didn't think it would be that way.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, again, I'm removed from these murders and these

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<v Speaker 4>cases and I didn't know them, but I almost started crying.

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<v Speaker 4>I could just feel the emotion, just feeling me, and

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<v Speaker 4>you know, to realize that there are people out there

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<v Speaker 4>and they deserve to be brought to justice, and that

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<v Speaker 4>I could literally be speaking of them, they could be

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<v Speaker 4>watching me on the live stream. It was kind of

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<v Speaker 4>surreal experience that really maybe more emotional than I thought

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<v Speaker 4>I would be. I was worried about the students. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>they're young, they're used to speaking in public, but I

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<v Speaker 4>probably should have been worried about myself. I think the

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<v Speaker 4>closer they got into the case and looking at the case,

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<v Speaker 4>they realized that they might actually be able to change something.

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<v Speaker 4>I think, especially young people today, feel like if they

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<v Speaker 4>do work, they want something to come out of it,

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<v Speaker 4>and I believe that this press conference made them feel

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<v Speaker 4>like that in the future something good could come from

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<v Speaker 4>their work.

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<v Speaker 13>That press conference really put the kids out there. Wasn't

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<v Speaker 13>adults speaking with kids in the background, but it was

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<v Speaker 13>really representative of the kind of belief that mister Campbell

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<v Speaker 13>has in his students and Elizabethton has in their high school,

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<v Speaker 13>and the belief that XQ has in the potential of

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<v Speaker 13>young people and the potential of educators to create these

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<v Speaker 13>environments for students. I think for mister Campbell and for

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<v Speaker 13>those kids, it was a moment of real vulnerability and

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<v Speaker 13>a moment to really put themselves out there in a

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<v Speaker 13>way to say they believed in what they had done,

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<v Speaker 13>and they believed in the power of their research and

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<v Speaker 13>the power of their position and the power of their findings.

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<v Speaker 13>And for us, that was a big moment for us

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<v Speaker 13>at XQ to go, yes, this is what we mean.

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<v Speaker 13>This is what rethinking high school looks like. This is

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<v Speaker 13>exactly what young people can do. Now, let's make sure

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<v Speaker 13>it's not just one class in one high school in

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<v Speaker 13>one town in Tennessee, but it's happening for kids everywhere.

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<v Speaker 10>You can find more about XQ Institute at XQ America,

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<v Speaker 10>across all socials.

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<v Speaker 4>All these TV stations are running the story and it

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<v Speaker 4>got a lot of attention. Matter of fact, it got

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<v Speaker 4>so much attention it went national. We got in Oxygen

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<v Speaker 4>True Crime today. Like all these these people were covering it.

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<v Speaker 2>A group of Elizabethan High School students started a project

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<v Speaker 2>to research a string of unsolved murders from thirty years ago.

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<v Speaker 7>For three decades, the mystery had remained unsolved. Six redheaded

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<v Speaker 7>women strangled and left on the side of a highway.

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<v Speaker 7>Only one victim's name was even known. That's when a

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<v Speaker 7>group of elizabeth In High School students started their research.

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<v Speaker 8>A group of high school student detectives are investigating a

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<v Speaker 8>series of unsolved killings.

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<v Speaker 16>Students from elizabeth And High School presented their research on

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<v Speaker 16>what is known as the Redhead Murders. Over the last semester,

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<v Speaker 16>the students have studied several cold cases spanning the South.

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<v Speaker 16>The cases all have several things connecting them, including the

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<v Speaker 16>victim's hair color. Students created a profile of the suspected

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<v Speaker 16>killer and named him the Bible Belt strangler.

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<v Speaker 8>Students in Elizabethton had a class where they investigated these murders.

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<v Speaker 4>I think this media attention really did a lot to

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<v Speaker 4>bring eyes back to the case and help, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>make the cases not so cold. So what happened was

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<v Speaker 4>the students had tried to bring.

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<v Speaker 1>The case back up. It had this media blitz, It'd

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<v Speaker 1>been featured all over the nation.

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<v Speaker 4>They have a name for the killer, they have a

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<v Speaker 4>way to separate the six out from the rest of

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<v Speaker 4>the victims.

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<v Speaker 1>People start calling the TBI, and they start.

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<v Speaker 4>Calling the local police agencies, and they start saying, well,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, what does this mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Are we looking at other cases? Are these related to

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<v Speaker 1>any others?

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<v Speaker 4>Could she have been killed, you know, by the same

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<v Speaker 4>person as somebody else? And I think it just it

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<v Speaker 4>just really got a media firestorm really going, and it

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<v Speaker 4>brought up a lot of attention back to these cases.

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<v Speaker 4>Once you start getting a few tips or a few leads,

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<v Speaker 4>or you know, a few identifications, then the cold case

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<v Speaker 4>isn't so cold.

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<v Speaker 16>Anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a huge true crime whatever you call them, what

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<v Speaker 1>citizen sleuth kind of community out there.

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<v Speaker 4>They And so what happened was there was a lady

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<v Speaker 4>who spent a lot of time on these kind of

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<v Speaker 4>missing persons websites and Jane go kind of websites. So

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<v Speaker 4>she heard the podcast that the students were featured on,

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<v Speaker 4>and she thought, huh, here's six victims. Here's six bodies,

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<v Speaker 4>and they look like this.

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<v Speaker 1>They're this age, there're this weight, this height, whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>And then she was also looking at these missing person

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<v Speaker 4>websites and she noticed that a missing person she felt

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<v Speaker 4>matched up with this victim. It was shortly after they disappeared,

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<v Speaker 4>so she actually said, I think that this missing person

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<v Speaker 4>may be here, Jane Doe to Campbell County Jain Doe,

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<v Speaker 4>and that tip was submitted to the TBI, and pretty

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<v Speaker 4>soon the TBI was traveling to Indiana to find her

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<v Speaker 4>relatives and take DNA swaps, and sure enough, it did

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<v Speaker 4>turn out to be that missing person.

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<v Speaker 10>Let's stop here for another quick break murder.

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<v Speaker 9>One on one, A woman who thinks Jane Doe is

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<v Speaker 9>her mother is sharing her story hoping it'll give identity

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<v Speaker 9>to the woman left dead inside of a discarded fridge.

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<v Speaker 8>Many believe the person who killed the Jane Doe also

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<v Speaker 8>killed six other redheaded women. All but one of those

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<v Speaker 8>are also unidentified. He's called the Bible Belt strangler and

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<v Speaker 8>he's never been caught.

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<v Speaker 17>Well.

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<v Speaker 4>I saw the headline that said, you know one of

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<v Speaker 4>redhead murders victims identified.

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<v Speaker 1>That's when it got really intense.

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<v Speaker 8>The Campbell County Jane Doe has now been identified as

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<v Speaker 8>Tina Marie McKenny. Like McKenny, four of the other five

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<v Speaker 8>victims were Jane doe'es. The autopsy suggested that she was strangled.

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<v Speaker 18>I want you ought to know this is Tina laying here,

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<v Speaker 18>and she does matter, and she deliver her and she

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<v Speaker 18>didn't abandon her. And she does have a family.

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<v Speaker 15>She had us, Tinas, and he took her from me.

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<v Speaker 10>Shane Waters ended up speaking to Tina's sister, Liza Plummer.

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<v Speaker 18>She was still that quiet little kid that sat in

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<v Speaker 18>that corner and nicest can be. She was naive. Our

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<v Speaker 18>life was hell at home.

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<v Speaker 6>The family inquired about Farmer. They were told that she

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<v Speaker 6>didn't want to come back with them, and she had

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<v Speaker 6>left with the truckers, said to be headed to Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 6>The family did not believe that story. Her family reported

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<v Speaker 6>her missing to the authorities at this time, Yet authorities

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<v Speaker 6>in Indiana did not enter her international databases. The state

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<v Speaker 6>did not have a law common to many other states,

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<v Speaker 6>requiring law enforcement to enter unidentified victims into this database.

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<v Speaker 10>Tina's sister Liza told the story the last time she

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<v Speaker 10>saw Tina.

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<v Speaker 2>Tina was nineteen.

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<v Speaker 18>I was turned eighteen, and that's when her and dad

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<v Speaker 18>got into it. And my dad he was just be honest,

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<v Speaker 18>a mean ass, that's just how he was, and Tina cried.

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<v Speaker 18>I went inside. Me and Dad had some words, and

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<v Speaker 18>we went out into the van and slept in Scott's

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<v Speaker 18>band that was my boyfriend then, and I woke up

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<v Speaker 18>the next morning. Tina left me note saying she didn't

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<v Speaker 18>want to make trouble to me and Dad, and she

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<v Speaker 18>just left. So I'm fearing that she probably went across

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<v Speaker 18>the street, used the phone booth and called someone to

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<v Speaker 18>come and get her.

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<v Speaker 10>Eliza recalls realizing that something truly bad had happened to

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<v Speaker 10>her sister. Tina.

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<v Speaker 12>I used to.

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<v Speaker 18>Always tell I said now the minute Dad passed on,

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<v Speaker 18>I know it's a terrible thing to said then my

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<v Speaker 18>dad left us earth she would have came back. And

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<v Speaker 18>when my dad was gone and she didn't come back,

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<v Speaker 18>on kneed Tina was gone. I've been on this since

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<v Speaker 18>I think two thousand and four, hard, really hard on it,

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<v Speaker 18>and I just got bits and pieces here and there.

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<v Speaker 19>No one from the investigation has been in touch with

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<v Speaker 19>you to let you know anything.

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<v Speaker 12>No, they put it the nath REGs.

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<v Speaker 18>They've paid aneath rig.

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<v Speaker 15>I think the most thing about this for me, though,

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<v Speaker 15>is had the police worked into this back then, they

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<v Speaker 15>would have heard the story, probably found her.

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<v Speaker 11>Maybe linked together, yeah, linked.

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<v Speaker 10>Tina's neighbor at the time, a woman named Tammy, was

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<v Speaker 10>also present and said something that couldn't be ignored.

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<v Speaker 6>Dicky said, and Geneva, she was saying to you that

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<v Speaker 6>she had run off with a truck driver.

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<v Speaker 18>He told us, Yeah, that she had run off with

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<v Speaker 18>the truck driver. When I go buy interstates, I break.

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<v Speaker 1>I stand truck driver, I break.

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<v Speaker 8>Because no one know.

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<v Speaker 18>But see, the stories are in my head.

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<v Speaker 10>They're never going to leave my head.

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<v Speaker 1>Is you know she mattered, she was here, she was fine.

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<v Speaker 10>The truck driver revealed was an eerie callback to what

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<v Speaker 10>the FBI analyst and the students had predicted.

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<v Speaker 17>You know, these bodies are being done along the interstates.

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<v Speaker 17>First thought to the kids was, Hey, if I was

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<v Speaker 17>in your shoes and I was an investigator's case. As

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<v Speaker 17>a detective, my first thought would be because these bodies

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<v Speaker 17>are being dumped on the side of NY State by

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<v Speaker 17>a gut feeling and experience tells me if it's.

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<v Speaker 4>A truck driver.

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<v Speaker 11>But we knew it had to be a truck driver.

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<v Speaker 5>He's pretty stocky, you know, truck driver type.

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<v Speaker 11>He's a truck driver.

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<v Speaker 10>Soon the most shocking twist would come to late.

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<v Speaker 19>Good afternoon. I am Jared E. Fler, the elected District

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<v Speaker 19>Attorney for Tennessee's eighth Judicial District, of which Campbell County

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<v Speaker 19>is a part of. On January the first, nineteen eighty five,

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<v Speaker 19>an unidentified female body was discovered murdered along Interstate seventy

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<v Speaker 19>five and Campbell County, Tennessee. At that time, an investigation

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<v Speaker 19>was launched by the TBI to determine two things, the

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<v Speaker 19>identity of the unknown female and who was responsible for

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<v Speaker 19>her death. Yesterday, the results of that investigation were presented

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<v Speaker 19>to the Campbell County Grand Jury.

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<v Speaker 3>The grand jury.

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<v Speaker 19>Found that the unidentified body was that of Tina Marie

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<v Speaker 19>Farmer of Marion County, Indiana. Additionally, the grand jury found

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<v Speaker 19>that there was a fiship proof to believe that Jerry

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<v Speaker 19>Johns of Cleveland, Tennessee caused her death.

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<v Speaker 10>More on that next time. Murder one oh one is

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