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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio last night.

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Speaker 2: A couple of surprises, But really this is kind of

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Speaker 2: the let's reintroduce or maybe introduce you to some of

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Speaker 2: the players who might be playing some minutes in the

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Speaker 2: NBA next season. I'm going to throw out a couple

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Speaker 2: of names and then you tell me if you can

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Speaker 2: guess where I'm going and maybe even recognize them. If

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Speaker 2: I said Bub Carrington or I said Jalen Wells, Eve's Missy, where.

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Speaker 3: Are we going?

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about NBA players who were rookies last year.

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Speaker 2: Bub Carrington played the most minutes of any rookie last year.

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Speaker 2: He was drafted fourteenth by the Wizards. Jalen Wells second

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Speaker 2: most minutes. He was drafted thirty ninth by the Grizzlies.

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Speaker 2: Eves Missy, who played for the Pelicans, drafted twenty first.

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Speaker 2: He was fourth on the list. Stefan Castle third on

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Speaker 2: the list. He was drafted fourth overall by the Spurs.

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Speaker 2: So what am I getting at? You can be drafted high,

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Speaker 2: you can be drafted in the lottery. That doesn't mean

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Speaker 2: you're going to have those kind of minutes. I think

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Speaker 2: we feel like, you know, the old days. When you're

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Speaker 2: drafted in the first ten picks fifteen picks, you're playing

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Speaker 3: Reed.

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Speaker 2: Shephard did not play for the Rockets last year, and

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Speaker 2: I played five hundred minutes, but he was a G

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Speaker 3: He was the third pick.

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Speaker 2: Overall, you're drafting players and it's almost like you're drafting

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Speaker 2: them they're going to be on your roster, but it's

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Speaker 2: not like it's sort of like baseball where they draft

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Speaker 2: and then you disappear for a couple of years and

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Speaker 2: then you come back. You know, you go to the

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Speaker 2: minor leagues. These players are kind of there or maybe

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Speaker 2: in the G League and then they might contribute. Now,

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Speaker 2: do I think Dylan Harper is going to play a

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Speaker 2: significant minutes for the Spurs?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Is Cooper Flagg going to play significant minutes for the

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Speaker 2: Dallas Mavericks?

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Speaker 3: I do Ace Bailey.

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Speaker 2: In Utah vj Edgecombe. I don't know how much he's

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Speaker 2: gonna play for the seventy six ers. They already have

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Speaker 2: their guards there. So you're trying to figure this out

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Speaker 2: of Okay, you drafted a guy, what's that mean for

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Speaker 2: our team right away? How many of these guys will

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Speaker 2: have a true impact? And you're gonna have some projects here,

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Speaker 2: and you might have a guy who plays for a

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Speaker 2: team who then gets traded and then becomes something in.

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Speaker 3: Two or three or four years.

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Speaker 2: Because you're drafting eighteen year olds nineteen year olds in

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Speaker 2: college baseball, they're at least twenty two to twenty three,

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Speaker 2: so it's different. But it'd be like taking an eighteen

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Speaker 2: year old high school phenom in baseball. You're not going

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Speaker 2: to the majors, he's going to the miners. Well, you're

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Speaker 2: gonna get guys who are gonna play sparingly with a

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Speaker 2: lot of these first round picks, if they even make

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Speaker 2: the team. If I said to Monty Kamara, he led

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Speaker 2: in minutes the previous year for the Portland Trailblazers Kyante George,

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Speaker 2: he had the second most minutes in the previous draft.

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Speaker 2: He was sixth sixteenth overall. So there's no sure things.

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Speaker 2: I mean, do I expect Ace Bailey to be a

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Speaker 2: good player, I guess, But the situation you're in really

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Speaker 2: dictates how quickly you become successful. If you go to

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Speaker 2: a bad roster, a bad organization, it's already an uphill

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Speaker 2: battle you're going in. You're going to be a rookie.

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Speaker 2: You're just trying to survive. Now you're on a team

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Speaker 2: with a bunch of knuckleheads, and you've got to you know,

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Speaker 2: the history is systemic of how bad you are, and

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Speaker 2: there's a reason why those organizations stay bad.

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Speaker 3: They're not relevant.

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Speaker 2: Danny Ainge didn't care that Ace Bailey didn't want to

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Speaker 2: go to Utah. Danny Inge said, all right, we'll take you.

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Speaker 2: You don't want to go to Philly or Charlotte. He

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Speaker 2: didn't want to go to Utah. He wanted to go

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Speaker 2: he wants to be a star right away. I want

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Speaker 2: go to Charlotte and LaMelo ball is going to be dominating,

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Speaker 2: you know, he's ball dominant there. Doesn't want to go

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Speaker 2: to the Sixers. Okay, they're kind of a mess. Didn't

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Speaker 2: want to go to Utah, and Danny Ainge said, that's

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Speaker 2: all right, but I'm still going.

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Speaker 3: To take you. And got a lot of talent.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know if I don't know if this

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Speaker 3: The seventy six ers.

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Speaker 4: He's he's too.

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Speaker 2: Talented to have dropped too far, And I think he

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Speaker 2: to go to the Pelickins. So the strategy didn't work.

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Speaker 2: You ended up in Utah. But Dallas did well, obviously

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Speaker 2: getting Cooper Flag. Who can now ease in two minutes

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Speaker 2: if you played for another organization, You're like, all right,

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Speaker 2: we're coming out to see Cooper Flag. Well, you're going

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Speaker 2: to go out and see the Mavericks. With Cooper Flag,

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Speaker 2: there's a big difference. And we're going to go see

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Speaker 2: Cooper Flag and the nets, and I think the expectation

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Speaker 2: level will be very beneficial. Carmelo Anthony, former number one

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Speaker 2: overall pick now, an analyst for NBC with their NBA coverage,

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Speaker 2: had this to say about Cooper Flag.

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Speaker 5: To me, he doesn't do anything great. He just do

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Speaker 5: a lot of very good. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: He offensive rebound very good. He in the passing lanes

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Speaker 5: very good. He's a weak side defender, very good on

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Speaker 3: He got a lot better.

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Speaker 6: I want to see him against you.

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Speaker 5: I want to see him against Kady, I want to

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Speaker 5: see him against Luca. I want to see him against

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Speaker 5: ann Elwids because you coming in as that guy. If

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Speaker 5: he gota develop the right way, he got to get

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Speaker 5: a skill set. You can't be into pros and don't

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Speaker 5: have a skill set. So you have to have a

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Speaker 5: skill set, like your skill set have to be something

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Speaker 5: a wonderb full of, like something floater like.

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Speaker 6: You have to have.

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Speaker 3: Something that's your go to right now, he don't have

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Speaker 2: That's Carmelo on Podcast P with Paul George discussing.

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Speaker 3: Cooper Flag.

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Speaker 2: You know, I disagree with him of you know, what's

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Speaker 2: his bag? You can be a really good all around player.

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Speaker 2: There's value in that. They're looking at this from an

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Speaker 2: offensive perspective, so it's a myopic view of he's got

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Speaker 2: to have a signature move. Well, he's eighteen, and I

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Speaker 2: think his signature move is he doesn't have a signature move.

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Speaker 2: He's got a variety of things. He's not going to

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Speaker 2: be one dimensional. And look, Carmelo was incredible, but he

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Speaker 2: didn't really have much of a move. It was just

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Speaker 2: going to kill you mid range. But Carmelo was not

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Speaker 2: the all around player that Cooper Flag is. So there's

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Speaker 2: a difference in that. It's the value in that. But

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Speaker 2: Cooper Flag has an opportunity to learn. He can learn

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Speaker 2: from Kyrie, he can learn from Ad, he can learn

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Speaker 2: from Jason Kidd. If Jason Kidd still wants to be

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Speaker 2: the coach. Feels like that didn't go away yet. There

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Speaker 2: was a report yesterday that either the Knicks and Jason

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Speaker 2: Kidd are still holding out hope. But Nico Harrison, by

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Speaker 2: the way, you can't write a script for Nico Harrison

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Speaker 2: where you go, hey, listen to this pitch, Hollywood.

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Speaker 3: This guy he's.

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Speaker 2: Going to trade a franchise player, death threats. He can't

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Speaker 2: even go to games or they bow him. And you know,

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Speaker 2: the team had all kinds of injuries. You kind of

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Speaker 2: limped literally into the playoffs, and then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: long odds you win the lottery and then.

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Speaker 3: You get Coop for Flag.

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Speaker 6: That's what happened.

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Speaker 3: So I guess the Mavericks had a good year.

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Speaker 2: Would you say, all the backlash you had, all the injuries,

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Speaker 2: Kyrie's going to be out for half the year. Probably

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Speaker 2: you get ad and you got bailed out, the ultimate

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Speaker 2: what did we do?

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Speaker 3: Now we still do it again.

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Speaker 2: He didn't play any defense, and then you end up

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Speaker 2: with Cooper Flag. But watching last night, you know, it's

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Speaker 2: fun to see some of these names that you saw

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Speaker 2: kind of a you know, six months there were eighteen

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Speaker 2: one oh one last night, and this bj Edgecombe. I

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Speaker 3: I really liked him at Baylor.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what he's going to do in the NBA.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what any of the you know, con Canipple,

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Speaker 3: Can look a like a top five pick. I guess

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Speaker 2: He's a really good shooter, but he is a you know,

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Speaker 2: stand still shooter. I don't know how much he's creating.

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Speaker 2: You're going to play in Charlotte, which good luck, Good Charlotte.

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Speaker 3: Me he got some minutes.

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Speaker 2: Probably I'm gonna gas, so I don't you know, you're

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Speaker 2: trying to figure any of this stuff out. Good luck,

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Speaker 2: because you're dealing mostly with freshman Dylan Harper. Not a

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Speaker 2: Antonio's got the rookie of the year Stefan Castle and

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Speaker 2: I don't have any information on this. This is just

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Speaker 2: me watching the TV last night in between getting yelled

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Speaker 2: Not directly, it just felt like it was like, I

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Speaker 2: steven A is on that I could just turn it

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Speaker 3: You know it's steven A. Smith.

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Speaker 2: Don't they have the SAP or whatever? That is just

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Speaker 2: this will be the essays, Yeah, the essays where it's

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Speaker 2: like because he started yelling and I'm like, who is he?

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Speaker 2: Why are we yelling? And I think at one point

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Speaker 2: somebody said this, Bob Myers might have said, hey, this

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Speaker 2: is supposed to be a good night, a positive night.

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Speaker 2: I am positive. Slow down, slow down.

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Speaker 3: It's okay.

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Speaker 2: I don't know who came up with that idea of

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Speaker 2: the louder you yelled, the more often you're gonna win

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Speaker 2: your argument.

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Speaker 3: Casparis jocket Tunis can't play. I don't even know.

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Speaker 2: Where I was before I get a lot of eighteen

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Speaker 2: year olds drafted.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the worst thing you could be in basketball,

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Speaker 4: a graduating senior for your senior.

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Speaker 2: Well, okay, Danny Wolf played at Yale and then went

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Speaker 2: to Michigan. Now, Marvin loved Danny Wolf.

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Speaker 4: Love his game, big fan.

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Speaker 3: But I don't know if he was a senior.

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Speaker 2: He was a junior at Michigan. Okay, I don't know

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 2: That's the worst thing to be is a US born

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Speaker 2: Patrick Show. Brooklyn Nets had five first round picks. Speaking

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Speaker 2: We analyze the draft, and we analyze it in our way,

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Speaker 3: Let's just sit in the cockpit if you want.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's a chance I could be a

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Speaker 10: Yes, Dylan, Yeah, it's well, you just have to get

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Speaker 10: your fingerprint. Yes, I got through fine, so it's nice. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Okay, you have a global entry. Two thumbs up. Now

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Speaker 3: Yes, hun.

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Speaker 11: then me eventually look at there.

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Speaker 3: All right, I'll give you a blue, okay, give you

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Speaker 4: Fifty bucks it's worth it.

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Speaker 11: Just another ten to fifteen minutes of waiting.

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Speaker 3: Oh yes, I have unclear.

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Speaker 2: Okay, come on in, all right, So Dylan's in for

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Speaker 3: What's the hour two pole question? And let's clean up

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Speaker 4: All right, Dan?

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Speaker 10: So the results from our one, still cruising at fifty

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Speaker 10: for our two. Who is the most mythical athlete ever?

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Speaker 2: see Michael Jordan, I could understand the mythological feel. If

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Speaker 2: you're in your twenties, then you probably go, man, I

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Speaker 2: got to see some highlights here. But there's so much

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Speaker 2: more available to Michael Jordan's career than a lot of

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Speaker 2: these other players, like Wilt you know, some of the

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Speaker 2: greats of the Oscar Robertson. Most people saw Oscar when

447
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Speaker 2: he played for Milwaukee when he wasn't Oscar Robertson. He

448
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Speaker 2: was just a great point guard. But that was Kareem's team,

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Speaker 2: and that wasn't a great team.

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Speaker 3: You want to talk.

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Speaker 2: About what Lebron did with the Cabs and taking them

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Speaker 2: to the NBA Finals, Kareem with that Milwaukee team, that

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Speaker 2: wasn't a great team. I mean, if you look at

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Speaker 2: that roster, you know they I don't think there was

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Speaker 2: anybody close to being a Hall of Famer on there.

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Speaker 2: Bobby Dandridge was on there, but you know, John McLaughlin,

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Speaker 2: I'd have to look or reminiscent about that. Lucius Harris

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Speaker 2: might have been on that team too, Yes, Marvin Bobby

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Speaker 2: Danger's Hall of Famer, Okay, but yeah, that roster was

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Speaker 2: on a great roster and they didn't have a legionary coach.

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Speaker 2: Larry Costello was the coach.

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Speaker 3: For that team.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, you know when you have Luel sindor a coach,

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Speaker 2: it helps.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's what time practices.

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Speaker 7: Guys.

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Speaker 2: It's like they interviewed the Montverde coach last night and

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Speaker 2: he you would have thought he was John Wooden. You know,

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Speaker 2: he's talking about all these great players that he's had.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's a prep school, and you know they

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Speaker 2: keep saying this could be the greatest high school team

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Speaker 2: of all time. Well, you're trying to get the best

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Speaker 2: players to go there. It's not like it's a local

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Speaker 2: high school team.

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Speaker 4: They didn't play together in eighth grade.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, So when we go greatest, you know

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Speaker 2: O Kill used to do this back in the day. Man,

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Speaker 2: this could be the best high school team ever. It's

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Speaker 2: a training academy. I like to think the best high

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Speaker 2: school team of all time is players who are from

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Speaker 2: the area who went to the high school there, not

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Speaker 2: Mont Verde.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I'm.

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Speaker 4: Not smirching Mont Verdi's academics because it might be a

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Speaker 4: great school. But I've met the Cooper flag was late

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Speaker 4: to a class. He's not sitting in detention for an

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Speaker 4: hour like a normal public high school.

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Speaker 10: After Yeah, yes, Dylan, Well that's like IMG Academy in Florida.

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Speaker 10: They're like they just beat everyone by a hundred points,

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Speaker 10: and like they I think they sold the school for

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Speaker 10: like a billion dollars because it's just like a training factor.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, So when we talk about great high school

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Speaker 2: teams of all time, let's put it in perspective. Are

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Speaker 2: you from the area around the high school? That's where

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Speaker 2: I would start. I remember what was it Calvert Calvert

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Speaker 2: Hall in Baltimore. Uh, that was a they were a powerhouse.

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Speaker 2: I mean there's been great, great teams, Uh, Eastern High

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Speaker 2: and d C. I mean there go down the Ourbon day.

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Speaker 2: I remember that back back at Jamatha was great. Morgan Wooten, Yeah, PAULI, But.

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Speaker 4: Like mont Verde, mont Verdi is not like a normal

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Speaker 4: high school where the JV is a bunch of guys

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Speaker 4: like me, you know, the JV squad. It is probably

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Speaker 4: a second team all Americans.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to your phone calls coming up, EH seven

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Speaker 2: seven to three. DP show email address DP at Danpatrick

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Speaker 2: dot com, Twitter handle the TP show.

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Speaker 3: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: If you're watching on peacock, thank you for downloading the

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Speaker 2: Let's see Jim in Michigan, Hi Jim, what's on your

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Speaker 2: mind today.

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Speaker 12: Hey, hey Dan, I would say, first, non Dan had

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Speaker 12: to get gonged last week, and I have two more

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Speaker 12: questions about the gong, and again I won't call back.

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Speaker 12: This will be my last two. Who has the succession

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Speaker 12: of the gong if you're like on vacation or you're

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Speaker 12: out for the day, or I'm the on vacation, nobody

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Speaker 12: who okay? And the other one. Can anybody else call

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Speaker 12: for the gong other than yourself?

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Speaker 2: Yes, you can call for it. I mean, I take

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Speaker 2: request here, Jim.

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Speaker 12: Okay, now, okay, that's what I wanted to get the

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Speaker 12: rule book on the gong. And he says, I was

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Speaker 12: the first Non Dan answer.

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Speaker 3: Just gong Jim again, a two time gonger. Gunga gunga

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Speaker 3: gonga gunga.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Fritz, She's like, you know, you haven't used the

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Speaker 2: gong on me in a while, and I go, give

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Speaker 2: me reason, and I will.

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Speaker 11: It's weird. I crave positive and negative the gong.

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Speaker 3: You were just not a good thing to I told him.

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Speaker 2: I said, hey, there's been a lot of positivity and

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Speaker 2: then you go, I know, but you know, sometimes it's

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Speaker 2: okay if you recognize something I did wrong, I.

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Speaker 3: Said, Okay, that's that whole ug. You just want to

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Speaker 3: be talked about.

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Speaker 7: Isn't that said?

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Speaker 11: You would like why why? Why would someone need that?

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Speaker 11: How much attention do you need?

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Speaker 3: I've been trying to figure this out for over twenty years.

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Speaker 4: Go about your business.

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Speaker 11: If people want to talk about it, great, but don't like,

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Speaker 11: look forward or encourage it's not necessary.

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Speaker 2: Alrighty uh do you have the pole? So we have

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Speaker 2: the poll question for hour two, right, dylly?

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Speaker 9: Yep?

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Speaker 10: Who's the most mythical athlete of all time? I only

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Speaker 10: had four slots, so it's Babe Ruth, Wilt, Jordan or.

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Speaker 3: Other So Bo, Babe Wilt, Babe Wilt, and Jordan.

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Speaker 10: Unless we're ruling out Jordan from that.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, a different generation who didn't see him

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Speaker 2: on a nightly basis. Bo Jackson probably more so because

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Speaker 2: you know, he played in Kansas City, played for the Raiders,

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Speaker 2: but didn't play a long time for either He could

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Speaker 2: have been a Hall of Famer in either sport if

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Speaker 2: he had picked either sport. But the whole and I

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Speaker 2: always thought there was a little tension between him and

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Speaker 2: Dion because Bo may have looked at Dion as, oh,

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Speaker 2: you're doing this because of me. But Dion did it

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Speaker 2: at a very high level in baseball, and I don't

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Speaker 2: know how much longer he played than Bo, but you know,

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Speaker 2: the whole helicopter thing, and I don't know, it felt

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Speaker 2: like Bo did this. And then even when Bou was

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Speaker 2: running one time when Florida State played Auburn, and Dion

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Speaker 2: talks about, now I'm as fast, but he wasn't Bo

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Speaker 2: Jackson fast. And he talked about when Bo put his

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Speaker 2: hand on his helmet almost as if you know he's

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Speaker 2: it's in church where they put their hands on your

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Speaker 2: head and then bless you and put him put him

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Speaker 2: down on the ground. When Dion tells that story, he's

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Speaker 2: so animated.

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Speaker 3: Do you have that, Marvin? Okay, here's Dion.

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Speaker 7: When I played for Florida State as a freshman. True story.

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Speaker 7: Bou was at Alburn back in the back to Brent

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Speaker 7: full Ward. Probably the best hand of the running backs

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Speaker 7: I've ever seen in college. These guys are unbelievable, and

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Speaker 7: you know, you know, you heard of bow Jacks, so

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Speaker 7: you're kind of in awe as a young collegiate. I'm

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Speaker 7: seventeen years old playing Florida State eight eighteen at the time,

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Speaker 7: just during eighteen, Bo goes behind the huddle in alburn

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Speaker 7: It throws his hands up as if he was sick.

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Speaker 7: Designed the crowd to get it up. They start cheering

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Speaker 7: and appalliting, and I was playing left corner. BO got

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Speaker 7: a sweep to his left away from me and hit it.

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Speaker 7: I mean hit it, and he was gone. I came

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Speaker 7: out of nowhere because that was I could fly, came

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Speaker 7: and got him, ran up on him like it was

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Speaker 7: no other. With his right arm, he extended it, placed

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Speaker 7: it on my helmet like as if he was praying

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Speaker 7: for me, palming my helmet and stiffed me down and

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Speaker 7: kept going into the end zone like I wasn't even there.

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Speaker 7: That was my bow Jackson moment.

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Speaker 3: I could fly and he hit it. Yeah, Paul, you could.

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Speaker 4: Find this clip on YouTube and it's exactly like he said.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's great.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan

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Speaker 2: He is a football insider. I hope to graduate one

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Speaker 2: like tight End University, the NFL insider you and Rapaport.

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Speaker 9: Well, I think the reality is if there was a

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Speaker 9: club of insiders, I'd be the outsider.

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Speaker 3: It's true. Can the NFL Draft get any bigger?

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Speaker 9: No? No, but it will. They just stumble into things.

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Speaker 9: It's amazing the NFL's business model just kind of float along,

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Speaker 9: and when something happens it looks like adversity, it turns

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Speaker 9: into a positive. The reason the draft became this traveling

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Speaker 9: road show with hundreds of thousands of people is because

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Speaker 9: they had a conflict in twenty fifteen at Radio City

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Speaker 9: Music Hall because there was an Easter spectacular that conflicted

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Speaker 9: with the preferred day of the draft. So the NFL said, well,

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Speaker 9: we got to go somewhere else. Let's go to Chicago. Hey,

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Speaker 9: that was pretty good. Let's go back to Chicago. Hey,

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Speaker 9: let's go somewhere else. Let's go to Philly. And that

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Speaker 9: was the moment that shot. I still remember it, the

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Speaker 9: shot of a thousand the people by the library there,

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Speaker 9: It's like, oh man, the draft is different now and

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Speaker 9: it's going to keep growing and growing, but relative to

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Speaker 9: everything else, it can't get much bigger.

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Speaker 6: It can't. And it's amazing.

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Speaker 9: Because they could do it by a group text if

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Speaker 9: they wanted to.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's like Coachella.

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Speaker 2: It's a music festival for the NFL, and it's Pittsburgh

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Speaker 2: next year. I don't know did they decide on the

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Speaker 2: following year d d Okay.

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Speaker 6: National Mall, but they are dan.

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Speaker 9: There was some reporting, I think from Sports Business Journal

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Speaker 9: they're trying to find more stuff they can drop. Tuesday, Wednesday,

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Speaker 9: the fourth Draft Sunday extend it, have more reasons to

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Speaker 9: have more people show up beyond Thursday, Friday, Saturday.

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Speaker 2: We got a couple of teams with some stadium deals.

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Speaker 2: It feels like, you know, Cleveland, I guess going to

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Speaker 2: be moving out of downtown. Washington wants to move back

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Speaker 2: into downtown. The Bears are they moving out? Like what's

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Speaker 2: going on with these teams and stadiums.

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Speaker 9: Well, you've got the Browns that look to be moving

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Speaker 9: to suburban brook Park. They're putting the pieces in place

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Speaker 9: to make that happen. The Bengals have a deal to

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Speaker 9: State put at pay Course Stadium in Cincinnati. Reportedly until

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Speaker 9: the middle of the next next decade with the Bears

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Speaker 9: and also with Washington. You know, this was presented when

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Speaker 9: the deal was done with great fanfare. There's the commissioner,

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Speaker 9: there's owner Josh Harris, there's the mayor of d C.

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Speaker 6: We have a deal. We have a deal. Well wait

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Speaker 6: a minute, we don't have a deal because the DC

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Speaker 6: Council has to approve it.

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Speaker 9: And I think it's getting harder and harder Dan, to

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Speaker 9: get the kind of public money that you need to

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Speaker 9: build these stadiums, because I'd say the appetite of the

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Speaker 9: average taxpayer is why why are you using public money

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Speaker 9: when these franchises are worth more and more all the

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Speaker 9: time ten billion minimum after the Lakers recent sale that

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Speaker 9: had evaluation of the franchise at ten billion. So pay

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Speaker 9: for it yourself. And I was making that point earlier

660
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Speaker 9: this week because Josh Shapiro, the Pennsylvania Governor, said some

661
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Speaker 9: things that initially were misinterpreted by the ap But ultimately

662
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 9: the message is we're not going to be given out

663
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Speaker 9: a ton of public money here at some point, pay

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Speaker 9: for it yourself. You know, Dan, when you go to

665
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 9: the grocery store, the grocery store is there for the

666
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:24,800
Speaker 9: benefit of the public, right, we all.

667
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Speaker 6: Going to buy our groceries.

668
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Speaker 9: I never hear stories about the government giving the grocery

669
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Speaker 9: store chains millions and billions of dollars.

670
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Speaker 6: To build their stores. And that's what a football stadium is.

671
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 6: It's a big store that they lure thousands.

672
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Speaker 9: Of people too. Why is it something that the public

673
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 9: has to pay for? The people putting on the show

674
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Speaker 9: are the ones that should be expected to pay for.

675
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Speaker 2: He's Mike Florio, Pro Football Talk Live co host that

676
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Speaker 2: show Precedes Hours with Chris Sims and his book's Father

677
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 2: of Mine, Son of Mine, available in ebook form on

678
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Speaker 2: Amazon for only ninety nine cents. The collusion story that

679
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 2: you in Pablo Tore colluded on to talk about the collusion,

680
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 2: how did okay, let's do it for the fan?

681
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Speaker 3: Does the fan? Should the fan care about this?

682
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Speaker 9: Well, the fan doesn't care about it because I think

683
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 9: one of the problems is the fan just assumes that

684
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Speaker 9: that's how business is done. They assume the NFL is

685
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 9: one giant company and the teams are thirty two branches

686
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 9: and they coordinate and collude all the time. The problem

687
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Speaker 9: is that they are thirty two separate businesses. They shouldn't

688
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Speaker 9: be colluding, conspiring, coordinating on anything that doesn't fall within one.

689
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Speaker 6: Of their anti trust exemptions.

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Speaker 9: They've got a broadcast anti trust exemption, and they've got

691
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Speaker 9: an anti trust exemption to.

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Speaker 6: Deal with their union generally, not with the players individually.

693
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Speaker 9: And I think the question is, and I just got

694
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Speaker 9: to text a little bit ago that is going to

695
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Speaker 9: spark another story at PFT, how widespread is this collusive

696
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Speaker 9: activity that we finally have found evidence of. Even though

697
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 9: the NFL won the grievance they were caught with their

698
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 9: hand in the collusion cookie jar, how else are they

699
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Speaker 9: doing it? For example, are they doing it with coaches?

700
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Speaker 9: I believe they are. I've believed for years that they

701
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Speaker 9: collude when it comes to coaches to hold down what

702
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Speaker 9: coaches made. There's no salary cap, right, but there's also

703
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Speaker 9: no salary floor. They collude, I believe, on all sorts

704
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Speaker 9: of things because they operate as one company.

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Speaker 6: Even though they're supposed to be competing. And the point

706
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Speaker 6: I made, and I don't.

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Speaker 9: Know if you've talked about the text messages between Dean

708
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 9: Spanos and Michael Bidwell. Spanos congratulates Bidwell on getting Cardinal's

709
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 9: quarterback Kyler Murray signed to a contract that wasn't fully guaranteed,

710
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Speaker 9: and Spano says, this helps with our quarterback. You know

711
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 9: the point I've been making, Dan does the CEO of

712
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 9: PEPSI call up the CEO of Coke and say congratulations

713
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Speaker 9: on getting your director of research signed to this contract

714
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Speaker 9: because now we can use the same term.

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Speaker 6: So no, they're in competition.

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Speaker 9: But I think because the average fan just assumes there's

717
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Speaker 9: a certain amount of arm locking, they don't care.

718
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Speaker 6: But they should care.

719
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Speaker 9: They should care because it's an example of how business

720
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Speaker 9: gets done in ways that it shouldn't get done.

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Speaker 2: Any fallout from this, like what's next, Well, it all depends.

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Speaker 6: Upon I believe what the players do.

723
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Speaker 7: Now.

724
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Speaker 9: Will the players who are in charge of the union

725
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Speaker 9: push back against union management which hid this thing for

726
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Speaker 9: five and a half months, that's the biggest part of this.

727
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Speaker 9: Then the players union through that ruling on January fifteen.

728
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Speaker 6: January fourteen, excuse me of twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 9: They acquired a hammer that they could use against the

730
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Speaker 9: NFL in a lot of different ways.

731
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Speaker 6: And what did they do.

732
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Speaker 9: They stuck it in a drawer and locked it for

733
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Speaker 9: five and a half months until Pablo finally got it,

734
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Speaker 9: and I credited him forgetting it because I tried every

735
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Speaker 9: way I possibly could, and I'm gonna take some credit

736
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 9: because I kept banging and banging and banging to get

737
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 9: people to understand this thing's out there and it's important

738
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Speaker 9: and somebody needs to get it, especially because they were

739
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Speaker 9: hiding it. I understand why the league hit it, because

740
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,280
Speaker 9: the league looks bad. I don't understand why the Union

741
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 9: hit it. And it all comes down to whether or

742
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 9: not the players who are in leadership positions at the

743
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 9: Union insist on more and whether they take this thing

744
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 9: now and finally do use it as a hammer and

745
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,320
Speaker 9: find other ways to push and pressure the NFL to

746
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Speaker 9: get a better overall deal for the players.

747
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Speaker 2: I know that we've talked a lot, You've talked a lot.

748
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Speaker 2: Everybody's talked a lot about Aaron Rodgers with the Steelers,

749
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Speaker 2: and I feel like we don't separate Rogers the football

750
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Speaker 2: player from Rogers the person and his opinions, and he

751
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 2: can be polarizing. I just want to know the football

752
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Speaker 2: part of this with Aaron Rodgers, I know, with his age,

753
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 2: but with that team, I know he says that this

754
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 2: is it a one year deal? But what are your

755
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 2: expectations for this team?

756
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Speaker 9: Well, first of all, when he said the other day,

757
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 9: he's pretty sure this is it. Is that really anything

758
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 9: that we didn't already believe? Yeah, we're all pretty sure

759
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 9: this is it. He's in his early forties, he's had injuries,

760
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 9: he's been banged up.

761
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Speaker 6: His mobility isn't what it used to be.

762
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Speaker 9: But what I think, Dan, when you look at Rogers,

763
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 9: the quarterback, the thrower, the arm is still there. And

764
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Speaker 9: if he can resist his temptation to try to run

765
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Speaker 9: like he used to, because I think that's how he's

766
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 9: going to get himself hurt.

767
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Speaker 6: He's got to adopt the.

768
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Speaker 9: Tom Brady late career mindset of the moment, I feel

769
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Speaker 9: the walls closing in, I'm getting rid of the ball.

770
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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 9: For Rogers, who regards his touchdown to interception ratio as

772
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Speaker 9: the thing that makes him the best of all time,

773
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Speaker 9: he might not be as inclined as Brady was to

774
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Speaker 9: just throw the ball up into the air. And we

775
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 9: saw Brady do it over and over again. He did

776
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Speaker 9: it multiple times in the NFC Championship game that the

777
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Speaker 9: Buccaneers eventually won over Rogers and the Packers when in doubt,

778
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Speaker 9: get rid of it if it gets picked off, So what,

779
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 9: at least I didn't get blown up.

780
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Speaker 6: That's the key.

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00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 9: Rogers has to prioritize not getting hit. He's got to

782
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Speaker 9: get rid of the ball. He's got to get the

783
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Speaker 9: ball down the field and he can't try to run

784
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Speaker 9: with it.

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Speaker 6: He's got to play like he did. Remember the year

786
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Speaker 6: that he had.

787
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Speaker 9: The calf injury and he stayed in the middle of

788
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Speaker 9: the pocket. He's got to play like he's got that

789
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Speaker 9: calf injury, because if he starts getting hit, he will

790
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Speaker 9: have a calf injury and a knee injury, and a

791
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Speaker 9: hip injury, and rib injuries and a shoulder injury. Because

792
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Speaker 9: these guys literally are half his age that are chasing

793
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Speaker 9: him around.

794
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Speaker 2: Now, who came up with the you know, he's the

795
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Speaker 2: best thrower of the football of all time? Okay, but

796
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 2: because if somebody said somebody is, he's the most athletic

797
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 2: basketball player I've ever seen, or he throws the ball

798
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 2: harder than any pitcher ever. My first my follow up

799
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Speaker 2: question or first question would be, well, was he successful?

800
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Speaker 2: So you have the best greatest thrower of the football.

801
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Speaker 2: I don't know what that means.

802
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:59,240
Speaker 9: Well, what it means is and I read the O'Connor

803
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 9: biography last year. You know when you walk out onto

804
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 9: a field and you're standing there and you hear a

805
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 9: sound and you don't know what the hell the sound is,

806
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 9: and you realize it's the sound that the ball makes

807
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,439
Speaker 9: when Aaron Rodgers throws it, that few others can make.

808
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,760
Speaker 9: That's what makes him the great thrower. And I defer

809
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 9: to Chris Simms on this stuff. He's lived in and

810
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 9: around it his whole life. He was an NFL quarterback,

811
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 9: his dad was an NFL quarterback. And when he raised

812
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 9: about Rogers being the greatest he's ever seen, and the

813
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 9: problem is, yeah, you went to one super Bowl. And

814
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 9: there's a hell of a story to be told one

815
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 9: of these days on why the Packers failed to ever

816
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 9: go back to another Super Bowl. They had it against

817
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 9: the Seahawks in the twenty fourteen NFC Championship and through

818
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 9: you know, an unprecedented This had to go wrong, This

819
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 9: had to go wrong, This had to go wrong, This

820
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 9: had to go wrong. They would have gone back and

821
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 9: they would have played the Patriots that year. But how

822
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Speaker 9: can Rodgers have only been to one Super Bowl? In

823
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 9: his entire career when you consider just how effortless, and

824
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 9: it's like it's a lot of Patrick Mahomes, it's some

825
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 9: John Elway. Just an arm that is rare and special,

826
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Speaker 9: and I think that's what set him apart. But one

827
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 9: Super Bowl appearance and a couple of bad years with

828
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Speaker 9: the Jets, and I think he's just looking for something

829
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,479
Speaker 9: to end his career that will make people forget about

830
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 9: his time in New York.

831
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Speaker 2: Well, he's not the best quarterback of all time, but

832
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 2: it feels like we want to have a designation because

833
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 2: of you know, what he accomplished, But to me, it

834
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 2: leads to the follow up of what he didn't accomplished.

835
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Speaker 2: The greatest thrower of the football and then you look

836
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Speaker 2: at the losses. You know, regular season stats are incredible.

837
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 2: H what four MVPs, all of those things. I just

838
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 2: it's weird how it's supposed to be a compliment but

839
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 2: it kind of brings about a yeah, but feels like

840
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 2: he underachieved.

841
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Speaker 9: Well, that's right, and that's why I think he gets

842
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 9: sensitive about it and he only wants to say so

843
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Speaker 9: much about it.

844
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,280
Speaker 6: Let's talk about my touchdown to interception ratio and nothing else.

845
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 9: Right, and nothing else, because let's not talk about championships,

846
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 9: let's not talk about Super Bowl appearances. And when you

847
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 9: think about the embarrassment of riches the Packers have had

848
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 9: at quarterback since Brett Farv replaced Don Mkowski during a

849
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Speaker 9: nineteen ninety two regular season game.

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Speaker 6: They go from Farv to Rogers and now Jordan Love.

851
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Speaker 9: We don't know which way it's really going to skew

852
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 9: for him, but all those years of Farv and Rogers

853
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 9: and to have only two super Bowl wins to show

854
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 9: for it, when the Patriots got six with Tom Brady,

855
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 9: Yeah you got two, and there's plenty of teams that

856
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 9: would love to have won. But man, what a disappointment

857
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 9: to have two of the all time greats and only

858
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 9: have two additional championships.

859
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Speaker 2: Speaking of Pittsburgh, I don't know if this could be

860
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 2: a package deal of Aaron Rodgers one year and Mike

861
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 2: Tomlin because now they're back into the we're gonna need

862
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 2: a quarterback that once, you know, Rodgers leaves and if

863
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,760
Speaker 2: they don't, well, let's say they don't make the playoffs.

864
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 2: Let's say they go out in the first round. I

865
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 2: get some point we can credit Mike Tomlin for being

866
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 2: a Hall of Fame coach. But just like we've done

867
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 2: with John Harbaugh and Baltimore, like after a while, and

868
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 2: John Harball's got the league MVP, you know, as his quarterback.

869
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Speaker 2: So I just wonder Mike Tomlin might be getting to

870
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 2: that sweet spot of I can go into TV right

871
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 2: now and make a whole lot more money and have

872
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 2: a lot less headaches and I'm going into the Hall

873
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Speaker 2: of Fame.

874
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 9: Hey, Dan, I've lived in around Pittsburgh my whole life,

875
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 9: and the way the Steelers are behaving this offseason is

876
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 9: unlike anything they've ever done. The contract they gave the

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Speaker 9: Dk Metcalf market value for a guy who's never played

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Speaker 9: for the team before.

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Speaker 6: They have never done that.

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Speaker 9: They only get market value to their own players that

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Speaker 9: they have, that they know, that they trust and they

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Speaker 9: believe in. They're taking a roll of the dice with

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Speaker 9: Metcalf and then they assume the position for two plus

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Speaker 9: months with Aaron Rodgers. And I look, I I fully

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Speaker 9: believe that Mike Tomlin knew he was getting Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 9: They decided it was less of a distraction if he's

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Speaker 9: not on the team and not at off season workouts,

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Speaker 9: then if he's on the team and not at off

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Speaker 9: season workouts. But still, it feels like a level of

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Speaker 9: desperation to end what will be a nine year streak.

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Speaker 6: Of no playoff wins.

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Speaker 9: That's the longest the Steelers have gone between postseason wins

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Speaker 9: since they finally got their first win December twenty three,

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Speaker 9: nineteen seventy two, in the Immaculate Reception Game. So I

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Speaker 9: feel like there's a desperation there. And if they fail

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Speaker 9: to win a playoff game this year, what happens next?

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Speaker 9: I don't think they'll ever fire Tomlin. Maybe Tomlin will

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Speaker 9: decide it's time to move on. Maybe the Steelers will decide,

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Speaker 9: you know what, if there's somebody else out there that

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Speaker 9: wants to give us multiple first round picks the John

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Speaker 9: Gruden package for Mike Tomlin.

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Speaker 6: Maybe we'll take it.

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Speaker 9: I'm not saying they will, but the level of desperation

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Speaker 9: I've seen this year tells me if they fail again,

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Speaker 9: we need to be ready for anything in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: Great to talk to you, is always great work you

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Speaker 2: and Pablo, Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 3: Mike take it in about it, Mike Floria