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Speaker 4: Heck Maharrison is in the house, all right, we got
Speaker 4: trade more former.
Speaker 3: Texas A and m Aggie and your Giant and Dallas
Speaker 3: Cowboy in the house. I am merely new he scrugs,
Speaker 3: getting us through this thing today as we are getting
Speaker 3: closer to the Super Bowl. And yeah, I personally don't
Speaker 3: feel like it's super Bowl. First, I'm not there when
Speaker 3: you've gone Yeah, and then with everything that's happened from
Speaker 3: last Monday when Brian shot Hier was hired to then
Speaker 3: Saturday night, my whole world exploded because Luka Dotca. So
Speaker 3: I've been on Basketball Watch. It's like, oh, by the way,
Speaker 3: there's super Bowl, sup. But looking at Kansas City and Philadelphia,
Speaker 3: going back and doing this thing one more time, heck
Speaker 3: is it felt like Super Bowl week to you?
Speaker 5: It has, and it felt weird to me to hear
Speaker 5: y'all have the conversation about it not feeling like super
Speaker 5: Bowl Week. I think the lead up and tonight obviously
Speaker 5: you get you know, announcements of big announcements, and man,
Speaker 5: I just feel like you knows as it grows, as
Speaker 5: it gets closer. Man, it's just the anticipation for this
Speaker 5: big game. I think Kansas City is on the cusp
Speaker 5: of greatest of all time and it's just crazy, Like
Speaker 5: you think about all the Super Bowl teams get an
Speaker 5: opportunity to see all those old Super Bowl games leading
Speaker 5: up to Sunday.
Speaker 2: It just, man, it really is.
Speaker 5: It really is something to recognize what any read has
Speaker 5: been able to accomplish as as a head coach. And man,
Speaker 5: it's gonna be a lot of parties going on. So
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm into My party is gonna be off
Speaker 5: the chain on Sunday, you know.
Speaker 2: What I mean?
Speaker 6: So your party you didn't even invite us. I had
Speaker 6: to work, So there it is. We all got work
Speaker 6: working together. But you know it's so it's party, man,
Speaker 6: super Bowl party.
Speaker 7: Wee can, But I'd rather be in New Orleans though,
Speaker 7: I uh, I forgive you said part I ain't thought
Speaker 7: about I go to work even thinking about a party.
Speaker 3: When I tell you I have been buried in Luca Land.
Speaker 3: We have been buried in Luca Land.
Speaker 6: So you've been like everybody else in Dallas and on
Speaker 6: like on watch where we got to. You know, there's
Speaker 6: a helpline that you can call in the back of
Speaker 6: your ID license to say therapists. I believe there are
Speaker 6: certain benefits and packages here that you can do that.
Speaker 6: But I mean, hey, just cry your river, go about
Speaker 6: your business because you get a d like as much
Speaker 6: as we sitting here talking about Luca leaving and stuff
Speaker 6: like that, Like yes, Lucas iconic, but you get key players.
Speaker 6: You know, you got something back. And then let's not
Speaker 6: forget the final time. This is the big dance. I'm like,
Speaker 6: heck over here, like this is.
Speaker 2: Super Bowl week, you see, I got my Marty Grass
Speaker 2: beads on, Like I feel.
Speaker 6: This like we are watching football greatness at like at
Speaker 6: his peak right now. Patrick mahomes to do what he's
Speaker 6: doing right now at a young age and potentially do
Speaker 6: something that even Brady hasn't done, and then he still
Speaker 6: has a lot of football going being in his prime.
Speaker 6: Andy Reid doing what he does not even that, and
Speaker 6: you know I'm a defensive guy. Shout out to my
Speaker 6: dog Steve Speckno you and what he was able to
Speaker 6: do with that defensive building there. And surprisingly he's not
Speaker 6: a head coach. Right now, we are watching some great
Speaker 6: football Jalen Carters. He's emerging as the guy for the
Speaker 6: league ever since Aaron dahmerd came out and gave that
Speaker 6: quote that man has been punishing people so this week
Speaker 6: and then on top of that, you're down in New Orleans.
Speaker 6: I know the food is that, bro. Last night I
Speaker 6: had a turn ducking for the first time that ducking. Yes,
Speaker 6: Golden Belly sent me turn ducking and I made it.
Speaker 6: It is chicken, turkey and duck. And when I tell you,
Speaker 6: I said, let me be in New Orleans that this
Speaker 6: is a small replication of what's going down there, food
Speaker 6: and football.
Speaker 2: Take the duck, put in the turkey, cook it and
Speaker 2: stop it. You got you got stuffing in it too.
Speaker 2: I mean it is good.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 3: I'll give you that. I've told my friends who've been
Speaker 3: in New Orleans this week and say, go to Coachhonk
Speaker 3: get the fried oyster. B L T sandwich and make
Speaker 3: sure you put the sweet potato hobby that sounds.
Speaker 2: I don't like.
Speaker 3: Oysters, but this same I love oyster, don't. I mean,
Speaker 3: I don't, but it's that good. I go get it
Speaker 3: every single time because it's like the flavors of that
Speaker 3: between the oyster and.
Speaker 2: The hot sauce. I'm gonna say you said that hot sauce.
Speaker 3: Sweet potato hobbinnarow hot you knows as a vegetarian.
Speaker 2: I'm just pretending. Let you guys are talking. You don't know.
Speaker 2: How long have you been a vegetarian? For four years?
Speaker 2: I love?
Speaker 5: I mean when I them, I love like Drago's in
Speaker 5: New Orleans. Man horse is crazy.
Speaker 2: Okay, we'll take the bacon off, but you can do
Speaker 2: the oysters. Yeah, okay, you no, I don't. I don't know. No, No,
Speaker 2: you don't do that. I don't even do. You don't
Speaker 2: do fish at all?
Speaker 6: No? Okay, so you vegan or vegetarian? My wife will
Speaker 6: tell you. Okay, yeah, what.
Speaker 2: He said, I don't know. Twenty four hours. He's got
Speaker 2: a mama dad out either. Do you eat there?
Speaker 6: That's all you gotta ask theident Yeah, yeah, okay, So
Speaker 6: then okay, they had egg todent.
Speaker 2: So it's that turn ducking. I mean, that's what that's.
Speaker 5: I like that man I had last Thanksgiving. I had
Speaker 5: to turkey tot food to food turkey.
Speaker 2: It was horrible. Did it look all? It was horrible.
Speaker 2: I'm not even gonna lot to say. But as we
Speaker 2: talking about good food, as Grandma saying, put some hot it's.
Speaker 4: Gonna up, I was eating Jerry World had turkey.
Speaker 2: I'll say, you're gonna have It's gonna be good. Jared,
Speaker 2: take care of it. We're all over the place right now.
Speaker 5: But I got to ask you, and I meant to
Speaker 5: say something to you in the in the chat about
Speaker 5: the Luca trade. Is it one of those things for
Speaker 5: are you one of those people that's on this Nico
Speaker 5: Harrison train where you think he's a mad man for
Speaker 5: for going the direction that he did with Luca and
Speaker 5: also the contract implications for him for.
Speaker 2: Something the contract implications I just don't buy. I don't buy.
Speaker 3: I mean, they don't think that was the reason good
Speaker 3: players cost money.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm talking about just he kind of shady
Speaker 2: the guy.
Speaker 6: That's why I said you you shaded him, like, hey,
Speaker 6: we ain't gonna pay you this and on top of that,
Speaker 6: you know what, let's get you up out of here.
Speaker 6: So you're gonna delay your contract because he's going to
Speaker 6: get a max contract by somebody, but we delayed for
Speaker 6: at least another year.
Speaker 3: I mean, look, Nico needs to make a long run
Speaker 3: to the finals or I think he's gonna get fired.
Speaker 3: And the problem of owners who don't live in town
Speaker 3: is they don't understand the mentality of how people feel.
Speaker 2: And you go back to nineteen ninety.
Speaker 3: Eight, this town has had a European souperstar that they
Speaker 3: have loved.
Speaker 2: Dirk Nvitsky passed the torch to Luka Danci. Now go
Speaker 2: back to Duglas Shrimp.
Speaker 3: Why we're going to draft that left shrimp over Carl mal.
Speaker 2: It goes back furnther than that.
Speaker 6: The owners when the yeah, before my time here, but
Speaker 6: when the Mavericks establish in nineteen eighty, the owners wanted
Speaker 6: to make them the Boston Celtics at the.
Speaker 3: South and Luka Dancic is a guy who, well, like
Speaker 3: Dirk Navici, this was their own guy. This is their
Speaker 3: own guy. And I've covered two stories that have been
Speaker 3: on this level. My career is a television sports cast.
Speaker 3: The first one I was there at the press conference
Speaker 3: when Jimmy Johnson was let go by Jerry.
Speaker 2: Over Valley Ranch. People are like, make it make sense.
Speaker 2: You just won two Super Bowls? What's happening here?
Speaker 3: So I was there for that, and then I went
Speaker 3: from Austin, Texas up to work in Cleveland, and I
Speaker 3: was there that day on the newscast for Channel five
Speaker 3: announcing that the Browns were leaving to go to Baltimore,
Speaker 3: just less than a month after the Indians lost the
Speaker 3: World Series to the to the Atlanta Braves.
Speaker 4: And that was a wait a minute, what what's happening here?
Speaker 2: This team is leaving.
Speaker 3: So I've seen two cs and this story and how
Speaker 3: people are reacting is the same way. So Nico Harrison
Speaker 3: has to win. He's going to get fired. I mean, Edward,
Speaker 3: we did medium mash yesterday. Edward said, Jerry has now
Speaker 3: moved up in the.
Speaker 2: Local GM rate. He got to love. That's hard, but
Speaker 2: think about it.
Speaker 3: Monday was about okay, they hired Brian shot and hire.
Speaker 3: Why are you going in house again? You gone in
Speaker 3: house twice here, Jerry. You did it for Dave Campo
Speaker 3: and Jason Gear. You didn't get the results, So here
Speaker 3: it is you go, Brian shot Hummer again. So that
Speaker 3: week was about Cowboy fans who were frustrated that's all gone,
Speaker 3: talking about Jerry barely talking about.
Speaker 2: The moves of the staff.
Speaker 3: Normally, the moves of a football team like the Dallas Cowboys,
Speaker 3: it's a big deal to talk about. Hey, offensive coordinator
Speaker 3: is going to be Clayton Adams, who's coming from Arizona.
Speaker 2: Let's dive into this.
Speaker 3: What Arizona? It was mentioned, Yes, it wasn't mentioned. Did
Speaker 3: we hire a running back too, Yes, running back coach?
Speaker 2: We did.
Speaker 3: The running back coach Derek Foster, who was down in
Speaker 3: New Orleans and also hit worked with who'd worked with
Speaker 3: Austin Eckler with the Chargers.
Speaker 2: So normally that's crazy. They got swept under the rug.
Speaker 3: That's how big you're going into that. But that this
Speaker 3: trade has been that big and that many, that many
Speaker 3: people who aren't normally your sports fans, but they knew
Speaker 3: who Luca was, and you, I mean, Luca sold shoes, man,
Speaker 3: and that's a hard thing to do these to be
Speaker 3: a guy who sells shoes. I remember many times watching
Speaker 3: the Jones family, seeing them sit courtside to watch Luka
Speaker 3: Dacic play. There's just not many people in all of
Speaker 3: sports where you say I want to go watch him play.
Speaker 2: I was that night. I see Patrick Mahomes, who's been
Speaker 2: at many a Maverick game.
Speaker 3: Patrick Maholmes is like, what Luca fan and you got
Speaker 3: rid of that man? You can talk about a d
Speaker 3: all day you want to.
Speaker 2: But I was clear, I was clearly joking. I know
Speaker 2: that was a shot at me.
Speaker 4: I feel sorry for him.
Speaker 6: I do feel sorry for him because he is All
Speaker 6: Star and you bring into role players right now, you
Speaker 6: got Kyrie that's doing his thing, and obviously you have
Speaker 6: to win now. But with this being such a detrimental situation,
Speaker 6: and like, as a fan, I'm hurt that Luca is gone.
Speaker 2: I truly am.
Speaker 6: But I can't think about the time when we sat
Speaker 6: there as fans, we said, why would you, as a
Speaker 6: Mavericks fan, trade Steve Nashaway, Why would you sit here
Speaker 6: and get rid of all your key components when you
Speaker 6: just went to a finals and give everything up for
Speaker 6: an old Jason kid. And everybody was like, hey, you're
Speaker 6: fired after this year, like, get rid of him if
Speaker 6: this worked, But we won a championship right after that,
Speaker 6: and it was like, oh snap, getting the old Jason
Speaker 6: Kidd and getting rid of a young Devin Harris who
Speaker 6: was going out there dropping forty with the nets.
Speaker 2: It was like, okay, it makes it worse.
Speaker 6: So I'm with you when you say those same sentiments
Speaker 6: of Nico.
Speaker 2: This has to be. This is like a do or die.
Speaker 2: This is that last.
Speaker 6: Bullet in the chamber right now that if you don't
Speaker 6: hit on this, your job is done. You You just traded.
Speaker 6: You just traded Michael Irvin. You just traded.
Speaker 2: Sam and Smith like somebody.
Speaker 3: I mean, you're agi guy going to the SEC leaving
Speaker 3: the big toys go. That was exceismic type of thing
Speaker 3: where wait a minute, okay, well that and then everyone
Speaker 3: in college football was Texas.
Speaker 4: A and m leaving going to the SEC huge you
Speaker 4: know those.
Speaker 3: It's that kind of thing where this is this the
Speaker 3: landscape didn't changed in a sport where then you just
Speaker 3: look at Twitter and you see how many football players
Speaker 3: we're diving into this thing and everyone huh, what's going
Speaker 3: on here?
Speaker 2: And so it's big. I think we're in the season
Speaker 2: of disruption. It is. Look, it's just a season of disruption.
Speaker 5: And the thing for me because I'm closer to the
Speaker 5: situation because of calling the Legends Basketball the G League,
Speaker 5: you know, I get an opportunity to see a lot
Speaker 5: of the Mavericks, Brass Deal Harris and guys like that
Speaker 5: every day every time I'm calling the game. And I
Speaker 5: think when you look at the way that they are,
Speaker 5: you know, especially farming these guys from G League up
Speaker 5: to the Mavericks, you see them the need for those
Speaker 5: threes and fours and guys that can come in and
Speaker 5: play immediately. I started to see last season, especially in
Speaker 5: that the finals game versus Boston, Boston exposing the matchup
Speaker 5: with Luca, and you see other teams coming to American
Speaker 5: Airline Center and expose the matchup with Luca, and he does.
Speaker 5: He's never gotten the criticism that some of the other
Speaker 5: big name superstars get because of the way that he
Speaker 5: plays offense. I think he has a brand that caters
Speaker 5: to the NBA the way that they play now. Just shoot,
Speaker 5: run back down to the to three point line, to
Speaker 5: three point line. But when it comes down to the finals,
Speaker 5: you're never gonna be able to win a championship versus
Speaker 5: a team that can that has a one through five
Speaker 5: or at least one through four because he's gonna be exposed.
Speaker 5: And so even when I look at guys like James Harden,
Speaker 5: when I look at guys like James Harden's who's their
Speaker 5: reputation has been around the league as a scorer and
Speaker 5: a guy that doesn't play defense, there are not a
Speaker 5: lot of teams out there that's breaking their back to
Speaker 5: go after James Harden. But Luca on the other end,
Speaker 5: because he's young, because you potentially look at him, O, man,
Speaker 5: his ceiling is so much higher. How much higher is
Speaker 5: that ceiling defensively? When I can take Jason Tatum and
Speaker 5: just expose that nerve.
Speaker 2: Two things on that.
Speaker 3: Two out of the last three years the Mavericks were
Speaker 3: in the conference final, and they went to the NBA
Speaker 3: Final Round last year, and that's only a third time
Speaker 3: franchise history, franchise established since in nineteen eighty. You beat
Speaker 3: the number one seed in the West in Oklahoma City,
Speaker 3: then you go on the road and beat Minnesota to
Speaker 3: get yourself there to the final. The team they played
Speaker 3: was the best team in basketball all year long. I
Speaker 3: mean from the time it started. That has great. They
Speaker 3: were sixty plus wins. I think they lost maybe three
Speaker 3: playoff games, Boston was just better. And then when you
Speaker 3: talk about their ability to play defense, they went next
Speaker 3: level Luca. Defense was bad. Kyrie Irving could not score.
Speaker 3: It was in his head going back to Boston. And
Speaker 3: the karma of all of this was Chris STAPs for Zingis.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you some guy. Okay, you watch you
Speaker 3: watch it, w W wrong.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: So so all of a sudden, you know, somebody's talking
Speaker 3: to their boom.
Speaker 2: You hear the music from the ground.
Speaker 3: It's before game one, okay, okay, Porzingis had been hurt
Speaker 3: painted Okay, he's been hurting, and now he's gonna play.
Speaker 3: You got you got Tatum on the court, and you
Speaker 3: got and you got jaylen Brod.
Speaker 2: They're all warming up.
Speaker 3: So the team is all warming up, you know, Tatum
Speaker 3: and Brown and then Jason Kid said, hey, Brown is
Speaker 3: their best player. Porzingis comes out late. They show him
Speaker 3: in the and and you know, leaving.
Speaker 6: The locker room, he's coming down right right, running right right.
Speaker 3: So you see him coming down and these fans in
Speaker 3: the Boston gar Why like smile, hip comes Porzingis.
Speaker 8: He he comes to the court. I'm like, wait, this
Speaker 8: is rocky. It is what it is. It is, it is.
Speaker 8: It's the comeback, tell you.
Speaker 3: I'm like, they were going crazy for Tatum the All Star.
Speaker 3: It was fort Zingers. Then the game started. He comes
Speaker 3: off the bench, boy put up a shot which bottom
Speaker 3: and he's back. You couldn't hear he's back. You couldn't
Speaker 3: hear his fans was jumping up. And then I was
Speaker 3: over by because you saw you.
Speaker 2: I was like, wait a.
Speaker 3: Minute, you're cheering like this guy bird check. Then he
Speaker 3: shook somebody hit Kyrie down. I mean, the dude went
Speaker 3: off hit like ten and he got a smile on
Speaker 3: his face.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, it's different. It's different, and the community,
Speaker 2: this place is different.
Speaker 3: And you know Jaylen Brown MVP, but I'm telling you,
Speaker 3: man that porzingis boy for two nights and it's like, Wow,
Speaker 3: this is different up here.
Speaker 2: Former Dallas. Everybody gets the toys from Dallas and then
Speaker 2: all make and.
Speaker 3: Then Kyrie will will ting under the pressure every time
Speaker 3: we shut the ball. So so when we talk about
Speaker 3: Luke and what happened in the finals, hey man, he
Speaker 3: got him there. And if this guy is out of
Speaker 3: shape or not where he needs to be and you're
Speaker 3: in the final, I'll take it. If the Cowboys had
Speaker 3: some you know, hey, you went to the Super Bowl,
Speaker 3: would we would we be moaning and running you need
Speaker 3: to get in Shane, you know, would we be talking
Speaker 3: about hey man, he's doing this guy Michael's doing this
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Speaker 2: If you're the super Bowl.
Speaker 6: No, No, that is a good point. You're gonna tell
Speaker 6: you what But I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna tell you. Like they always say in the business,
Speaker 6: what have you done for me lately? It is not
Speaker 6: a problem until it becomes a problem. If you are
Speaker 6: out of shape and doing all this and you step
Speaker 6: on somebody told you bet not mess up the wrong way.
Speaker 6: He might mean a lot to us, But since when
Speaker 6: in Dallas, if any if Mavericks fan should learn from
Speaker 6: the Cowboy, the owners do not care what our fans think.
Speaker 2: So if you are not giving me this right here.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna take you out right here, and I'm gonna
Speaker 6: paint the narrative to tarnish everything.
Speaker 4: And it's ironic when you think about.
Speaker 6: Because you disrespected Kyrie, when you try to say he Wilton,
Speaker 6: don't sit there and say that ky three. He wilted
Speaker 6: in that moment, but overall what he did for the
Speaker 6: season and that team.
Speaker 2: We're talking about the final. I know we're talking about
Speaker 2: the finals, but he also not the whole the final. Boston. Yes,
Speaker 2: hey Wilton, I felt some type of well, I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 9: It was.
Speaker 6: It was.
Speaker 2: It wasn't a will.
Speaker 6: It was like when you got there, you rewarmed to
Speaker 6: let us up a water burger, you know that morning
Speaker 6: after burger.
Speaker 2: It's still a good burger when you got there.
Speaker 3: It was because Kyrie and Luca were playing next level
Speaker 3: Boston shut it down and everything that he had to
Speaker 3: go through.
Speaker 2: Hey, I'm over this, No, he was.
Speaker 6: It was.
Speaker 2: It was a problem.
Speaker 3: As Jerry's getting criticized for making sure he signs his stars,
Speaker 3: the Mavericks gave away the only star they had. It'll
Speaker 3: be like hey man by Michaeh. Yeah thanks thanks young talent.
Speaker 3: That we can't just go get in the drafter. We're
Speaker 3: gonna give that away and go bringing an older dude
Speaker 3: who's a nice player. Yeah, he's want a championship and
Speaker 3: got a Hall of Fame resume, but the fan, I mean,
Speaker 3: it's Michael Parsons. Just don't go give away Michael Parsons.
Speaker 3: You don'tchise right, you don't give away these kinds of players.
Speaker 3: And so those of us who hear people like you
Speaker 3: know they should trade it.
Speaker 2: They should for what. Maybe you don't need to sign
Speaker 2: cd Land.
Speaker 10: What do you mean?
Speaker 2: I mean?
Speaker 3: That's so so we criticized Jerry for holding on, but
Speaker 3: you out of shape. He took us to the finals,
Speaker 3: made a lot of money. There's the only thing is
Speaker 3: we go to break. The only thing Nico did for
Speaker 3: his team was make sure they ain't got to play
Speaker 3: on Christmas Day next year because the NBA ain't gonna
Speaker 3: put these dudes on TV when.
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Speaker 6: spikes the ball over the neck. I promise you that
Speaker 6: would have been me, Meet the parents whatever, whatever. But yes, yes,
Speaker 6: on pickleball.
Speaker 2: I promise you, I am that guy. You just kind
Speaker 2: of took it that.
Speaker 9: Anyways, But talk about yeah got wow, No, no, at
Speaker 9: least they top.
Speaker 6: The age is starting to get in. You're trying to
Speaker 6: double up on it. You're the O G session right,
Speaker 6: go ahead, gaming.
Speaker 2: My whole premise. Piggyback on what you were saying.
Speaker 3: The tennis here, this is good level tennis and the
Speaker 3: watching in person and to see how fast the serves
Speaker 3: come and how good these players are. If you if
Speaker 3: you are here in the Dallas for Worth area, it
Speaker 3: is worth you good to watch.
Speaker 5: The star doesn't even look the same right the way
Speaker 5: that they transformed the star. If you're going over there
Speaker 5: and looked at the court, I'm gonna check that after this.
Speaker 5: It is amazing. I need to check it out. But no,
Speaker 5: I don't believe it to say like not to drag
Speaker 5: away from the tennis. But I'm saying what they say.
Speaker 5: Certain people can't be rappers, but you can go recorded
Speaker 5: them on your computer. Well, I can't be a tennis
Speaker 5: player like I was good when I was little if
Speaker 5: I stayed with it. So now what I do is
Speaker 5: I live that out through pickleball like I'm on my
Speaker 5: Venus and Serena stuff. But anyways, let's get back to football. Hey,
Speaker 5: we're gonna hey, we're gonna do this. I'm gonna be
Speaker 5: I'm gonna debo this.
Speaker 3: Okay, there's the picture right there right behind of how
Speaker 3: how Fort Center looks for the Dallas Open, which is
Speaker 3: one of the marquee events that the city needed.
Speaker 2: The city basically has everything except.
Speaker 3: When you talk about, you know, a major to this
Speaker 3: tournament and we've got the golf, you know, we've got basket.
Speaker 3: But we've got so many things here, conference championship, basketball,
Speaker 3: so many different things that come to this area. So
Speaker 3: adding this is just one more thing. And that is
Speaker 3: one of the beauties of having the Fort Center here
Speaker 3: and things that are around.
Speaker 2: So there will be any big players in this tournament?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yes, yes, the basically your your top American
Speaker 4: throw here.
Speaker 2: Oh really?
Speaker 5: And and yes, Tommy Paul I just told you about
Speaker 5: them in the building. Can I use your your press page?
Speaker 5: One of your guys talk chriss.
Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody kept me. Take care of you, man, not
Speaker 2: a problem.
Speaker 3: Clayton Adams is your Dallas Cowboys offensive coordinator. He was
Speaker 3: the offensive line coach at Arizona and they were top
Speaker 3: ten in rushing. It's good, But then you got to
Speaker 3: add in the fact that Kyler Murray had almost seven
Speaker 3: hundred yards rushing, So how are we feeling about him?
Speaker 3: To go along with your running back coach Derrick Foster,
Speaker 3: Brian Schottheier is going to call the plays. They are
Speaker 3: talking about making the run game a major part of
Speaker 3: what they do. Going back to when Ezekiel Elliott was
Speaker 3: drafted here under the Jason Garrett era.
Speaker 2: And he was leading the league in rushing twice. I
Speaker 2: I'm on the fence. I was about to say, I
Speaker 2: don't like it.
Speaker 6: I am fifty to fifty when it comes to this,
Speaker 6: because you're doing everything that you're telling the people that
Speaker 6: you're going to do, and you're building up all this
Speaker 6: anticipation about this immaculate run offense, heavy offense that we're
Speaker 6: going to do shoddy being ahead coach, then you getting
Speaker 6: the old line offensive coordinator that is run dominant. Then
Speaker 6: you going down there to go get a running back
Speaker 6: coach that you're that you're talking about that was with.
Speaker 2: And UH and coach Chargers. So with that being said,
Speaker 2: you're doing all this with what personnel.
Speaker 6: I hope that you draft somebody to make all this effective,
Speaker 6: because if you don't draft nobody and then you leave
Speaker 6: our run game like how it was last year, we're
Speaker 6: going to be banking off Michael Parsons channeling that in
Speaker 6: and running back that he's talking about, because who do
Speaker 6: we have that is a caliber running back to run
Speaker 6: this style of offense that we're doing.
Speaker 2: Because this right now, that is just like I said,
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 6: You're putting all the pieces in play and you're laying
Speaker 6: you're playing chestnut checkers right now. I just hope at
Speaker 6: the end of the day you bringing the personnel to
Speaker 6: match this, because right now the coaching staff does not
Speaker 6: match with the personnel that we have in my opinion,
Speaker 6: with running and all that.
Speaker 3: So great, great point, and we're talking about this on
Speaker 3: February sixth. To me, this is the process you have
Speaker 3: to lay down.
Speaker 2: You do this right here.
Speaker 3: Hey, let's start to hire people who understand the run game,
Speaker 3: want to run the football. And then the next step
Speaker 3: right here, So then it's going to the combine to
Speaker 3: start to look at these guys.
Speaker 4: Then March hits, there's free agency, and then that's.
Speaker 6: Why I said fifty. That's why I said I'm fifty
Speaker 6: fifty on it, like you've got the draft.
Speaker 3: So to me, I'm just looking at all right, they're
Speaker 3: starting to get themselves walking down the road of what
Speaker 3: they need to do. Friday, I went to the Dope
Speaker 3: walker reward and Pashtion Genty was there speaking and said, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'll go to the Cowboys. And the Cowboys have the
Speaker 3: twelfth overall pick. So I guess he's okay if he
Speaker 3: ends up staying on the board that long. But I
Speaker 3: mean he's okay. Well, I mean he ain't got a choice.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, look, I mean somebody wants to pick
Speaker 2: him at seven.
Speaker 3: And you know, based on what we're seeing with the
Speaker 3: Saquon Barkley and then you saw Josh Jacobs did did
Speaker 3: you we saw the run game come back? Who knows
Speaker 3: who decides to say, hey man, we want to.
Speaker 2: Go get this.
Speaker 5: Let me get a piece of this because I feel like,
Speaker 5: you know, the name that I heard immediately when Schottenheimer
Speaker 5: was hired was Clayton Adams. They knew they had him
Speaker 5: identified right away. And my vision of Clayton Adams isn't shortsighted.
Speaker 5: I think you have to have an offensive line guy
Speaker 5: come in here that understands that this team is lacking
Speaker 5: a power run game, period. And the pieces that you're
Speaker 5: talking about, I'm looking at pieces more or less from
Speaker 5: a schematically from an offensive line standpoint, I think you
Speaker 5: had so many breakdowns in your offensive line. That rendered
Speaker 5: your whole running game pretty much useless. I look going
Speaker 5: back and looking at the season, Look Rico Daddle. They
Speaker 5: were up and down on who he was as a
Speaker 5: running back, and then finally over the last part of
Speaker 5: the season started to allow him to get into some
Speaker 5: type of rhythm. But seventeen hundred yards rushing for the
Speaker 5: Dallas Cowboys last season, how that ranks amongst the NFL
Speaker 5: is not very good?
Speaker 6: Not good.
Speaker 5: But then you think of the list of guys that
Speaker 5: it took to get to just seventeen hundred yards, I mean,
Speaker 5: and then we look at Saquon Barkley, and then we
Speaker 5: look at some of these other teams that have specialized
Speaker 5: now and allowing for the balance of their offense to
Speaker 5: take place. And I think that's where you get the
Speaker 5: best part of DAK where you spent so much of
Speaker 5: your money, this is where you get the best part
Speaker 5: of CD because when you became one dimensional, and we
Speaker 5: talked about it last Thursday when I said, look, Montre,
Speaker 5: you wouldn't be fooled by play action. If you knew
Speaker 5: that they didn't have, it wasn't a viable threat. And
Speaker 5: that's why going into this draft, while everybody's talking about
Speaker 5: the Ashton Genty and I love Ashton Genty and called
Speaker 5: his games when he was at Frisco long Star. Look
Speaker 5: what good is Ashton Genty gonna do you when you
Speaker 5: don't have an offensive line that can open up those
Speaker 5: gaping holes for a guy his size. You need a
Speaker 5: power running game, but you need an offensive line even more.
Speaker 5: And this is one of those seasons where you can't
Speaker 5: pump fake on being all in you either our yarn't
Speaker 5: sure this is good.
Speaker 4: We talked about this on Media mass yesterday.
Speaker 2: Terrence Steele.
Speaker 3: The thought process is he's a better run blocker than
Speaker 3: pass blocker. Also, what do you do in terms of
Speaker 3: is awesome Richards taking over left tackle? Where do you
Speaker 3: go with Geiton? Still need to see what happens with
Speaker 3: Zach Martin. So this once again is a part of
Speaker 3: the process. How do you go about rebuilding the line?
Speaker 3: But you do need to upgrade at the running back
Speaker 3: of so gent could be the guy or someone else.
Speaker 3: And if we're also talking about your defense last year,
Speaker 3: and how many times if we do the players lounge
Speaker 3: early on in the year, Heck, look at the time
Speaker 3: of possession totals of how long this Cowboy defense.
Speaker 2: Was there on the football field.
Speaker 4: If you can get a better run game, improve your
Speaker 4: offensive line play, you.
Speaker 6: Can help your defense man, you help him out a lot,
Speaker 6: especially when they started getting fresh.
Speaker 2: So that's why, like I said, it goes back to
Speaker 2: being fifty to fifty.
Speaker 6: You're half of me likes it because, like I said,
Speaker 6: you're laying the foundation and you're getting back to everything
Speaker 6: that you're saying and you're proving and typically historically when
Speaker 6: the Cowboys have been at their best, it's been off
Speaker 6: of the play action run and so it's like, yes,
Speaker 6: you're setting the foundation and getting the fans excited to
Speaker 6: saying that we're going to.
Speaker 2: Get back there.
Speaker 6: But the reason that I'm still not as optimistic is
Speaker 6: because for years people have always said that it's been
Speaker 6: one tool away or not getting people the right tools
Speaker 6: and having that being on the cuss of that, and
Speaker 6: so it's like, are you going to do that? Not
Speaker 6: only are you going to go get the running back,
Speaker 6: but like you said, the offensive line is the biggest
Speaker 6: spot because Zach Martin if he comes back, and even
Speaker 6: if he does come back, he's going to be a
Speaker 6: temporary bandaid for what a year, maybe two if he
Speaker 6: feels good and like goes through rehab the right way,
Speaker 6: But realistically, you have a year left in here.
Speaker 2: And that's an uncomfortable conversation. Fit me with Zach Martin,
Speaker 2: it is.
Speaker 5: And what's uncomfortable about it is is that we didn't
Speaker 5: get the best version of him because of those injuries.
Speaker 5: And if he says he's going to get healthy and
Speaker 5: come back, who's going to stop them?
Speaker 2: Nobody even also said I'm a free agent.
Speaker 3: He put it out there like, oh, by the way,
Speaker 3: free agent means I could go someplace else. At this
Speaker 3: point in time, I would I can't let him walk,
Speaker 3: though I would view it as him not being here.
Speaker 3: If if you're a Cowboy fan, I would tell you today,
Speaker 3: do not look for Zach Martin or Tank Launch to be.
Speaker 2: On your football teams.
Speaker 4: Oh no, of course for sure, and operate accordingly, operate accordingly, and.
Speaker 2: What they said, you'll be playing with house money if
Speaker 2: they do actually come back.
Speaker 3: Between both players, you're talking about two guys that played
Speaker 3: in the trenches and trade you played in the trenches
Speaker 3: for over you know, for over ten years. The best
Speaker 3: versions of who they are is gone. Oh it is,
Speaker 3: it's gone. And they got hurt. And now what we're
Speaker 3: seeing over time with older players, especially those guys the trenches, hurt,
Speaker 3: players stay hurt.
Speaker 5: And he never And then think about Zach Martin in
Speaker 5: his career. He never postured in that way his entire
Speaker 5: career about going to another team. And that's that's what
Speaker 5: keeps the loyalty there for him because he could have
Speaker 5: been that guy. He could have been the guy that
Speaker 5: we're gone for another contract, to go somewhere else, to
Speaker 5: play for a super Bowl when he was in his prime,
Speaker 5: and it would have been prime picking for him during
Speaker 5: those times. And so to hear him say that now,
Speaker 5: to him say, look, I still have some football in
Speaker 5: me and I want to get ready to go, but I, oh,
Speaker 5: by the way, I am a free agent. It's just
Speaker 5: like I said, it's one of those conversations for me.
Speaker 5: It goes back to the Tyrone Smith from last season
Speaker 5: when we were talking about him going to the Jets.
Speaker 5: It's just it's end of an era. Basically, it's the
Speaker 5: end of era.
Speaker 6: But with the end of era, you have to have
Speaker 6: somebody that's going to be that transitional piece, and right
Speaker 6: now you only have one one solid foundation piece on
Speaker 6: that office line, And so that's what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 6: we're positioning ourselves. But it's like it's like having going
Speaker 6: into a relationship. You have the expectations, you get let down.
Speaker 6: But if you're going there with no expectations, then it's
Speaker 6: gonna happen. So like right now, the expectations are getting
Speaker 6: built sky hot. You're going back to the offense that
Speaker 6: got you to the super Bowl. You're building all this
Speaker 6: offensive run power. You have the old line coach that's
Speaker 6: coming here. You're building this up to where you got
Speaker 6: asked in Gentz talking about he wants to come here,
Speaker 6: and you're gonna go try to go spend the money.
Speaker 6: And you're saying you're invested now that you have the coaches.
Speaker 6: You didn't spend the money last year. You got to
Speaker 6: make up for this year. Everybody's expecting you to make
Speaker 6: that splash. And if you don't make that splash, it's
Speaker 6: kind of like the Nico hair or the Nico thing.
Speaker 2: So when we come.
Speaker 4: Back, where should the splash be?
Speaker 3: When we come back, because free agency hits before the draft,
Speaker 3: where should the splash be?
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Speaker 2: I made my pick. I went Kansas City twenty six
Speaker 2: twenty What you did? What? Wait a minute? Whoa what.
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 5: Whatn't newly right now pus Today's day, February sixth, You
Speaker 5: make no sense at all. I've been trying to figure
Speaker 5: you out for four years now, Doggar. You don't make
Speaker 5: no sense because, first of all, I haven't been here
Speaker 5: that loone. Well, I'm just saying you're going against the
Speaker 5: frat right now, you know, And that's something that I
Speaker 5: never would have expected from you, especially just saying like
Speaker 5: this is. This is one of those situations where you
Speaker 5: have been down with Philadelphia, especially Jalen Hurts and mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Look, I speak route for Douctie, that root for Douctie.
Speaker 4: But in asking who's gonna win the Super Bowl, I
Speaker 4: will go with Kansas City.
Speaker 3: I do think Philadelphie's got a better defense, and that
Speaker 3: does concern me, and usually a defense wins these championships.
Speaker 3: But Patrick Mahomes is a next level player, Chris Jones
Speaker 3: is a next level Hall of Fame type player, and
Speaker 3: until they're beaten on this stage, I'm gonna go with them.
Speaker 3: The one time they did get beat on the stage,
Speaker 3: Kansas City's offensive tackles were shambles, and Tampa Bay just
Speaker 3: took advantage of them all day long, the same way
Speaker 3: we saw d Ware and von Miller take apart a
Speaker 3: fifth teeny one Carolina Panther team, it didn't have their
Speaker 3: starting tackles compromise on the offensive line. So for me,
Speaker 3: until I see Kansas City go down and get beat,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna.
Speaker 2: Go with them.
Speaker 6: The fact that you said you did not think that
Speaker 6: that would happen, I've been hearing this short span of time,
Speaker 6: and I've seen this man wear multiple college shirts that.
Speaker 2: He has never went to. I've seen him bandwagon. They're free,
Speaker 2: but I've seen him. I've seen straight Okay, now they're friends.
Speaker 2: I've seen him bandwagon with other people.
Speaker 6: So it's no wonder that he's going to sit here
Speaker 6: and say, ah, cute, all this, cute, all that, and
Speaker 6: then when they comes time, he's like, hold on, I
Speaker 6: need to go with the guy.
Speaker 2: He need to go with the guys that.
Speaker 10: Read like.
Speaker 6: It's crazy cat who you pick? I'm going, I'm going Philly.
Speaker 6: I'm lo Philly too.
Speaker 2: Can you can you imagine you know what?
Speaker 5: You know, what type of nerve that took for me
Speaker 5: to come in here today and pick Philly for the
Speaker 5: but and then just looking at the matchup defensive line wise,
Speaker 5: Kansas City is not going to have an answer for
Speaker 5: what Jaylen Carter and those guys can do interior wise.
Speaker 5: And I love Patrick Mahomes and I'm with you. I mean,
Speaker 5: they have the killer, he has that championship mentality, he's
Speaker 5: been here. This would be three in a row, and
Speaker 5: that would catapultry career into a whole nother spectrum. But
Speaker 5: I just feel as though when I look at Saquon
Speaker 5: Barkley and Taquon's effect on the Eagles offense, he is
Speaker 5: an immovable, unstoppable object and it is going to extend
Speaker 5: Sirianni's career surely, my man BC's Kellen Moore's career. I'm
Speaker 5: just it's just really it's one of those things that
Speaker 5: when you see a guy just make a major impact
Speaker 5: and it opens up so many other things. And so
Speaker 5: for me, I think you come into this game, if
Speaker 5: I'm Philadelphia, I'll give them a healthy dose of Saquon
Speaker 5: Barkley and then I open up the run game and
Speaker 5: let the defense just hand the business for you. Just
Speaker 5: it's gonna come down to who makes more mistakes. And
Speaker 5: I know for sure that Patrick Mahomes is not going
Speaker 5: to be the guy that's going to try and go
Speaker 5: out here and make a ton of mistakes. But that defense,
Speaker 5: I believe you can force him into making mistakes. What's
Speaker 5: your score score on this? And I'm gonna make it ugly.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go thirty five, thirty five, twenty four.
Speaker 10: Score.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go thirty. I'm gonna go
Speaker 2: thirty one, twenty five, thirty one, twenty five.
Speaker 6: I an't believing, like you know what and whoever's run
Speaker 6: game get started at first, we'll see if.
Speaker 3: They can win a playoff game, and under Sirianni it
Speaker 3: hurts if they can win in company, if they can
Speaker 3: win a playoff game away from Philadelphia, which hasn't happened, right,
Speaker 3: So let's let's see. Let's see how it all, how
Speaker 3: it all goes down. I'll be right now until I
Speaker 3: see it. I'm going to keep going.
Speaker 2: With with do we get we get very playoff away?
Speaker 2: Barry tell us nowhere did Barry say? Barry did not?
Speaker 6: Very?
Speaker 2: He did not?
Speaker 3: I think we know last thing for a roll out
Speaker 3: of here? What's the splash that needs to happen?
Speaker 2: I think for me, the splash needs to happen at
Speaker 2: the defensive line. Ok.
Speaker 5: Yeah, really yeah, free agent. Free agent splash needs to
Speaker 5: happen at the defensive line. You need a guy up
Speaker 5: front with Micah. If you just said Tanks gonna be
Speaker 5: out of here, I think you're gonna have some other guys,
Speaker 5: the young guys behind him. But you need a free agent,
Speaker 5: a bona fide free agent to come in here and
Speaker 5: pick up a lot of the slack up front.
Speaker 2: Or maybe a trade.
Speaker 6: Sir, d Line was gonna be my second choice, but
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go with O line. I'm gonna keep it
Speaker 6: right here in the trenches because you need somebody to
Speaker 6: come in here. Like what when I look at free agency,
Speaker 6: you need like a Trent Williams type signing where you
Speaker 6: bring somebody in here that boasters that offensive line solidifies
Speaker 6: it because when when the Cowboys have been at their peak,
Speaker 6: you had a guy like Tyron Smith holding down the line,
Speaker 6: you had a guy like Travis Frederick that was able
Speaker 6: to transition. And now with Zach Martin going, I think
Speaker 6: you need to get that because you can go find
Speaker 6: a talent running back, be undrafted and a guy ball out.
Speaker 6: Look at the guy down there and Buff, I mean,
Speaker 6: look at the guy down there in Tampa, right now
Speaker 6: that's doing his thing. You can go find those skill positions,
Speaker 6: but you need somebody to be the focal point of
Speaker 6: that offensive line and say, hey, I'm nasty, bring back
Speaker 6: that nasty Cowboys.
Speaker 5: Eric Williams, big ee, no, this I mean, I agree
Speaker 5: with you, I think wholeheartedly offensive line wise. When you
Speaker 5: were talking about Austome Richards, I think the whole tragedy
Speaker 5: of last season is the fact that we didn't get
Speaker 5: to see more of awesome Richards and they had to
Speaker 5: tinker with the And I understand, it's the first round
Speaker 5: draft pick. You're gonna play him, You're not gonna sit
Speaker 5: him on the bench. But then you have a guy
Speaker 5: like Austoin Richards who plays through all of camp that
Speaker 5: shows you what he has, and then you sit him
Speaker 5: on the bench for a guy that's not performing.
Speaker 2: So it's just gonna be.
Speaker 3: You know, another great thing about having Clayton Adams here
Speaker 3: and whoever else they bring in on the offensive line
Speaker 3: staff to see how what you saw from Guidon last year,
Speaker 3: what his learning curve is, and how they get him straight.
Speaker 3: There's work to do. And that's why for me, when
Speaker 3: I talk about a splash here, I am with you
Speaker 3: hekma from the standpoint of the address, A d line
Speaker 3: hasn't been addressed for three years. You're bringing in Matt
Speaker 3: eber Flutes. He wants a three technique. Who knows what
Speaker 3: happens with with Osa Odiggy Zula, who's a free agent.
Speaker 3: But whatever you do, help eber Flues. Do what you
Speaker 3: didn't do for Mike Zimmer. Give the man what he
Speaker 3: needs up front.
Speaker 4: Do that part of it.
Speaker 2: That to me is where they should go in free agency.
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