WEBVTT - UPDATE: “Medically Unprecedented”, Christa Pike Is Awake And Talking

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there, folks. It is Wednesday, October 7th, which could

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<v Speaker 1>be a huge day in the Krista Pike case. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>the Tennessee death row inmate who survived that botched execution.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot is happening in that case today, but we

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<v Speaker 1>need to start with this. She's awake. And with that,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. So much

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<v Speaker 1>going on. Robe is trying to get in there early.

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<v Speaker 1>Get going on this story. Yes, she is conscious for

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<v Speaker 1>the first time, Robe, since that execution a week ago today.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Sorry, I jumped in there. But I think we

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<v Speaker 2>were all surprised to hear not only that she's awake,

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<v Speaker 2>but that she's talking. And this is a woman who

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<v Speaker 2>spent nearly a week on a ventilator. We know she's

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<v Speaker 2>not out of the woods yet, but she is believed

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<v Speaker 2>to be The first person known to have survived not

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<v Speaker 2>one but two doses of pentobarbital.

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<v Speaker 1>She survived maybe because they didn't put it all the

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<v Speaker 1>way in her blood system, right? Look, this stuff went

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<v Speaker 1>into her body. Didn't go to the right place, perhaps. But, Ropes,

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<v Speaker 1>is it possible? Can someone, if they do that correctly,

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<v Speaker 1>can somebody survive that much of that stuff going into

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<v Speaker 1>your body correctly? I wonder. Either way, point is, there

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<v Speaker 1>was an execution. They went through the motions and she's alive.

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<v Speaker 1>That is remarkable.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, exactly. And the question is, to answer your question,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't know. And that's what her attorneys want to

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<v Speaker 2>find out. When were these drugs procured? How were they handled?

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<v Speaker 2>What company did they come from? All of those questions

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<v Speaker 2>are appropriate given the outcome and what she went through.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's part of what we're hopefully going to be

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<v Speaker 2>learning more about later on today.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there were some, it was them, right? Yeah, Tennessee

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<v Speaker 1>had this problem years and years ago where they were

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<v Speaker 1>about to administer some drugs and turns out they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>test them correctly because of expiration dates and whatnot. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they need to look into that here. But the prevailing

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<v Speaker 1>theory right now in consensus is not that these drugs

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<v Speaker 1>were jacked. It was that y'all messed up. This is

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<v Speaker 1>human error.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct. That the IVs weren't inserted properly, weren't monitored correctly,

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<v Speaker 2>weren't adjusted after the first dose didn't do what it

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<v Speaker 2>was supposed to do. Yes. And so there are many, many,

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<v Speaker 2>many questions being officially asked on behalf of Krista Pike.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're going to hear more about that later today

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<v Speaker 2>because there is an 11 a.m. hearing in Nashville from

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<v Speaker 2>Krista Pike's attorneys and And this is basically a status

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<v Speaker 2>conference hearing is how it's being described on that emergency

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<v Speaker 2>motion they filed almost immediately last week after that botched execution.

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<v Speaker 2>They're basically trying to ensure that the state preserves all

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<v Speaker 2>the records related to the execution. They want an expert

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<v Speaker 2>to examine, yes, any residual chemicals from what they administered

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<v Speaker 2>into Krista Pike's body. They want to look at the syringes,

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<v Speaker 2>the IV lines. everything involved in this execution.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess you have to ask a court and do

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<v Speaker 1>this formally, but surely they know to be holding onto

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff. They're not in the back throwing stuff into

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<v Speaker 1>a furnace at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>And I believe they let the state of Tennessee know

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<v Speaker 2>as soon as like one o'clock in the morning, we

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<v Speaker 2>need you to preserve all of this. And in the motion,

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<v Speaker 2>the attorneys wrote out that Pike could be here crying, whimpering,

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<v Speaker 2>breathing loudly, While she was being administered these doses, she

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<v Speaker 2>said out loud that it feels like her arm is

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<v Speaker 2>about to burst open. They say at least seven needles

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<v Speaker 2>were used to gain IV access, with one, quote, bent

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<v Speaker 2>in a 90-degree angle when it was removed. So, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>they describe a pretty horrific scene, and they want the

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<v Speaker 2>state to be able to answer that. all of their questions.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we all got questions right now. Sometimes it seems

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<v Speaker 1>like the attorneys really didn't have a great answer either. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>just how is she doing? You hear awake and was

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<v Speaker 1>able to communicate, but Rose, what? We don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>the prognosis is, what the, they say long recovery ahead,

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<v Speaker 1>but they talk, I guess, to some degree, Rose, and

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<v Speaker 1>the updates we're getting are that she might be out

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<v Speaker 1>of the woods or the worst of it, at least.

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<v Speaker 1>That's progress. She's conscious now. She's speaking. That's recovery direction,

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<v Speaker 1>is it not?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. I mean, she was on a ventilator for, I believe, what, five,

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<v Speaker 2>six days? We don't know the exact details, but a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people, a high percentage of people, when they

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<v Speaker 2>go on a ventilator, never actually recover. And that's always

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<v Speaker 2>a scary thing to have to go into that place.

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<v Speaker 2>I just remember that from COVID. It was once somebody

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<v Speaker 2>went on a ventilator. It was a scary, scary thought

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<v Speaker 2>about what happens next. So it is fairly remarkable. That

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<v Speaker 2>she has pulled through, is alive, is conscious, is speaking.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things we, over the years, historically, we

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<v Speaker 1>can't believe somebody survived, blank, right? A plane crash, sometimes, eh?

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<v Speaker 1>Like there's one survivor of this thing, or I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to think of any equivalent. Who on this earth can

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<v Speaker 1>say I survived an execution, right? Nobody is the answer.

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<v Speaker 1>This is just from a human standpoint, historical standpoint. Like

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<v Speaker 1>what is more miraculous than this? We've been preparing for

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<v Speaker 1>years to kill you and we failed.

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<v Speaker 2>And yes, all eyes were on the state of Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 2>And we failed. The first execution of a woman in

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<v Speaker 2>more than 200 years. This had been written about, talked about,

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<v Speaker 2>debated for certainly for years, but especially in the weeks

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<v Speaker 2>and days leading up to the execution. Let's read for

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<v Speaker 2>you the attorney full statement about Krista Pike and what

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<v Speaker 2>we know about her condition. They wrote, against all odds,

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<v Speaker 2>Krista Pike is conscious, speaking, and continues to receive critical

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<v Speaker 2>medical care despite the severe damage she endured to her arms.

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<v Speaker 2>She is still handcuffed and shackled to the bed. Her

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<v Speaker 2>recovery is medically unprecedented. Her prognosis remains unclear, but at

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<v Speaker 2>a minimum, we expect a long recovery. We are incredibly

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<v Speaker 2>grateful to the first responders and the medical team at

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<v Speaker 2>the hospital who treated Krista like a human. and have

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<v Speaker 2>provided exceptional care to her. We also want to thank

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<v Speaker 2>thousands from all over the world who sent messages offering

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<v Speaker 2>prayers and support for Krista. Krista's life has been extraordinarily difficult.

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<v Speaker 2>She survived multiple childhood rapes, which political leaders in this

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<v Speaker 2>state acknowledge leave lifelong scars. She survived nearly 30 years

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<v Speaker 2>of solitary confinement and more recently escalating restrictive confinement leading

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<v Speaker 2>up to her execution date. She survived two complete rounds

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<v Speaker 2>of lethal injection per Tennessee's protocol, despite her attorney's warning

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<v Speaker 2>to the state of specific challenges with her veins. She

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<v Speaker 2>is the only person known to have survived a complete

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<v Speaker 2>execution attempt in the United States. Krista is a survivor

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<v Speaker 2>and will take recovery one day at a time. We

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<v Speaker 2>continue to ask the governor of Tennessee to commute Krista

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<v Speaker 2>Pike's sentence to life imprisonment without the possibility of parole.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody to chop that girl up like that is now

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<v Speaker 1>the sympathetic victim in this matter. We turned her into that.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so inhumane what has happened to this woman,

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<v Speaker 1>starting last Wednesday. Before that, all bets were off. You

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<v Speaker 1>could have a debate about it. But what has happened

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<v Speaker 1>to her since last Wednesday is wrong. It just is.

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<v Speaker 1>And someone who is as heinous as her crime was,

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<v Speaker 1>as disgusting as that crime was, as awful, Robes. And

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<v Speaker 1>even to hear the victim's mother still saying that Krista

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<v Speaker 1>Pike was laughing and talking and not apologizing and no

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<v Speaker 1>remorse on the day of her execution. All that, that woman, now,

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<v Speaker 1>because of what we've done, is the person we have

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<v Speaker 1>to seek sympathy and mercy for.

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<v Speaker 2>We've become Krista Pike. In a way.

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<v Speaker 1>This is so great.

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<v Speaker 2>Because what Krista Pike did to Colleen Slemmer, her victim,

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<v Speaker 2>31 years ago, was nothing short of torture and cruel

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<v Speaker 2>and unusual and extended. I mean, she took her time

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<v Speaker 2>torturing this young girl and eventually murdering her. But we're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about carving her with a box cutter, slitting her throat,

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<v Speaker 2>bashing her head in, laughing, kicking her face. all while

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<v Speaker 2>Colleen Slemmer pleaded for mercy. And isn't it so ironic,

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<v Speaker 2>some people might call it karmic, that she has now

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<v Speaker 2>suffered a long-extended torturous existence, and certainly even in an

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<v Speaker 2>attempt to kill her, it was prolonged, cruel, and unusual,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, by anyone's standards. But we have become, the

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<v Speaker 2>state of Tennessee has become their own version of Krista Pike.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. By torturing and not taking human decency into account.

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<v Speaker 1>What has happened to this woman is, if somebody went

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<v Speaker 1>eye for an eye, I'm not going to have that

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<v Speaker 1>argument and debate and all that. That's fine. But we

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<v Speaker 1>were supposed to be better. There's a reason we do

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<v Speaker 1>it differently. There's a reason we don't say, well, you

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<v Speaker 1>did this to her, so we are now going to

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<v Speaker 1>slit your throat, we're going to cut something into your...

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<v Speaker 1>We don't do that. There's a reason for it. We're

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be doing this as humanely as possible, and

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<v Speaker 1>what did we do? We Krista Piked Krista Pike.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's exactly what we did. And interestingly enough, the

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<v Speaker 2>New York Times actually got their hands on an audio

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<v Speaker 2>recording where Krista Pike talked about her worries, her concerns.

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<v Speaker 2>about being executed. And she is talking about Tony Carruthers,

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<v Speaker 2>the other botched execution in Tennessee that his execution ultimately

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<v Speaker 2>had to be called off because they couldn't establish a

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<v Speaker 2>second IV line. And if you listen to her own words,

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<v Speaker 2>knowing what's happened to her now is so, so eerie.

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<v Speaker 2>She said, the concerns I have on our lethal injection

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<v Speaker 2>method are simply that I do not have good veins.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm worried about our physician not being qualified to

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<v Speaker 2>start a central line on me If that happens because

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<v Speaker 2>he wasn't able to on Tony Carruthers, Tony Carruthers lived

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<v Speaker 2>out my worst nightmare detail for detail. And she said

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<v Speaker 2>she heard one of the drugs given burns very bad.

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<v Speaker 2>So thinking about her talking about her concerns and then

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<v Speaker 2>knowing now what happened to her, it's It's astounding.

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<v Speaker 1>But Robes, doesn't it now? And by the way, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>as we're recording this, there is another execution scheduled tonight

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<v Speaker 1>in Texas using the same method that was used against

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<v Speaker 1>Krista Pike. Robes, it's cruel and unusual for him to

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<v Speaker 1>even be aware of what's happened to Krista Pike. You're

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<v Speaker 1>telling me that the number one concern of somebody on

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<v Speaker 1>death row going into the death chamber is not death.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not dying.

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<v Speaker 1>It's what the hell are you going to do to

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<v Speaker 1>me before death? Robes, that in itself is cruel and

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<v Speaker 1>unusual to me.

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<v Speaker 2>It is wild to think that that is now an

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<v Speaker 2>added layer. It's not fearing death. It's fearing how long

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to take if I'm actually going to what

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<v Speaker 2>the process is going to be, how painful it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to feel. And, yeah, death would actually be a relief.

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<v Speaker 1>Robes, they're all going to start asking, what is your

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<v Speaker 1>final meal? Just two gallons of water. I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure I'm hydrated and the veins are popping

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<v Speaker 1>and y'all are good. Robes, we cannot have people going

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<v Speaker 1>in there to die not worried first about death. What

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<v Speaker 1>are we doing? Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>That is wild.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, folks, there is an execution tonight in Texas using...

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<v Speaker 1>a one-drug dose of pentobarbital.

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<v Speaker 2>We shall see what happens in that situation. But when

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<v Speaker 2>we come back, we're going to hear from Colleen Slemmer's mom. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>she has reacted to the news that Krista Pike is alive.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back, everyone, to Amy and TJ. Yes, getting you

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<v Speaker 2>up to date on everything Krista Pike's condition, she is awake.

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<v Speaker 2>She is talking. She's not out of the woods yet,

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<v Speaker 2>according to her attorney. She still has a long road

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<v Speaker 2>to recovery. We don't know what that recovery will look like,

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<v Speaker 2>but it is remarkable to note that, yes, it's... it's

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<v Speaker 2>believed that Krista Pike is the first person to have

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<v Speaker 2>ever survived two lethal or should be lethal doses of penobarbital.

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<v Speaker 2>And that news, of course, of her waking up, her speaking,

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<v Speaker 2>her being alert, reached Colleen Slemmer's mom. Of course, that

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<v Speaker 2>is Krista Pike's victim. And she spoke with the NBC

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<v Speaker 2>affiliate where she lives down there in Florida, WBIR. And

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<v Speaker 2>isn't this interesting? She told the reporter that she had

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<v Speaker 2>a feeling. She just had a feeling that Krista would survive.

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<v Speaker 1>That's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and she doesn't believe that Tennessee will actually try

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<v Speaker 2>to execute her again.

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<v Speaker 1>Where does that leave the mom? Where does that leave her?

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<v Speaker 2>She said, so then the reporter asked, well, what do

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<v Speaker 2>you want to happen? This is telling. Here is Colleen

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<v Speaker 2>Slemmer's mom's quote. It doesn't matter what I think. They're

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<v Speaker 2>going to do what they're going to do. She's given up.

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<v Speaker 1>She still hasn't been called by the state?

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<v Speaker 2>That wasn't asked, but it didn't sound like she had.

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<v Speaker 2>She just said she doesn't know and she doesn't think

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<v Speaker 2>they care what she thinks.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't. It's clear. Well, how many days? Well, we

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<v Speaker 1>might not know this morning, but as of, what, two

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<v Speaker 1>days ago for sure, she hadn't been called?

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<v Speaker 2>No, and I would think she would have said, hey, look,

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<v Speaker 2>they're keeping me up to date. There would have been

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit more. It sounds as though she has

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<v Speaker 2>just been left in the dark and left to wonder

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<v Speaker 2>and now has just reached a point where she has

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<v Speaker 2>to let go. I mean, she just has to say,

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<v Speaker 2>nothing I say, nothing I feel matters anymore. This has

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<v Speaker 2>taken on a whole other life of its own, and

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<v Speaker 2>now it's all about Krista Pyke.

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<v Speaker 1>That poor lady.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel for her.

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<v Speaker 1>That was 31 years ago. Her kid didn't just die

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<v Speaker 1>from some drunk driving accident. There was somebody who intentionally

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<v Speaker 1>lured and heinously murdered this girl. 31 years. Her face

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<v Speaker 1>was against the window waiting on Krista Pike to die.

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<v Speaker 1>And now she's back in Florida essentially saying, my daughter

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<v Speaker 1>will never get justice. So look, it's one thing to

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<v Speaker 1>be bad at your job and not be able to

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<v Speaker 1>get the needle in and not follow procedures. It's another

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<v Speaker 1>to be a bad human. Tennessee, you need to put

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<v Speaker 1>your arms around this woman and say, we're sorry. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to be decent to this woman now. She

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<v Speaker 1>is still, Robes, I would argue, the biggest victim today.

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<v Speaker 1>I know Krista Pike and what she went through, but Robes. Why?

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<v Speaker 2>It's so weird. Yes, that's her name.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the quote? Again, the day of the execution. They

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<v Speaker 1>were talking to people out there in Tennessee who were

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<v Speaker 1>gathered for it. And the one that stood out, Somebody

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<v Speaker 1>just said, I'm tired of hearing about Krista Pike. So

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<v Speaker 1>now it's all about Krista Pike.

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<v Speaker 2>It is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a miracle. She's the first to ever do this.

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<v Speaker 1>And she has suffered. And yeah, she messed that girl up. Robes.

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<v Speaker 2>It was evil.

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<v Speaker 1>That was an evil killer.

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<v Speaker 2>It was intentional. It was evil. It was planned. It

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<v Speaker 2>was premeditated.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>That cannot be lost in this story. And look, I

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<v Speaker 2>know and understandably May Martinez does not think that Krista

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<v Speaker 2>Pike is going to be executed. And certainly her attorneys

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<v Speaker 2>are pushing for that with the governor.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe it either. Do you?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think she will either. I just think there's

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<v Speaker 2>too much that's happened at this point for them to.

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<v Speaker 2>I do believe her sentence is going to be commuted

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<v Speaker 2>to life without the possibility of parole. But it is interesting,

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<v Speaker 2>and we mentioned this, Tennessee's Republicans, state Republicans, they are

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<v Speaker 2>saying a very different thing. They want to press forward

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<v Speaker 2>with executions. Senator Marsha Blackburn, remember her name because she

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<v Speaker 2>is the frontrunner right now in the governor's race there

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<v Speaker 2>in Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 1>She's got to strike a balance on this one, baby.

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<v Speaker 2>But she has suggested the electric chair. Her quote, if

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<v Speaker 2>it's lethal injection, if it's the electric chair, what we

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<v Speaker 2>do know is we have to find a way to

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<v Speaker 2>do this and do it successfully. So she's not backing

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<v Speaker 2>down on continuing executions in that state. She just wants

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<v Speaker 2>to do it better.

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<v Speaker 1>Robes, there was a reason that they used to hang

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<v Speaker 1>people and shoot people. They were just effective methods. But

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<v Speaker 1>they're horrific, aren't they?

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<v Speaker 2>They're horrific to look at. They're horrific to watch. They're

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<v Speaker 2>horrific to see. And to that point, the Republican House

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<v Speaker 2>speaker in Tennessee said, we want, talking about the death penalty,

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<v Speaker 2>we want to broaden it, include more methods. What those

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<v Speaker 2>are as of today, I'm not sure. But I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think there's any method that's off the table at this point. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what they said.

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<v Speaker 1>What is he talking about?

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<v Speaker 2>That's their reaction to this.

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<v Speaker 1>Bring back the guillotine?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, honestly, I actually had that thought cross my mind.

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<v Speaker 1>It works.

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<v Speaker 2>It is effective. It is quick. And as long as

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<v Speaker 2>that blade is sharpened, I can't imagine what the hiccup

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<v Speaker 2>would be.

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<v Speaker 1>That'll be the next problem.

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<v Speaker 2>The dull blade?

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<v Speaker 1>There you go. Who was the sharpener? He didn't sharpen

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<v Speaker 1>it enough. And then we have another... Bro, we saw

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<v Speaker 1>the stats. We've been doing it. Everything you name, the

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<v Speaker 1>only one that they have stats on that has never

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<v Speaker 1>been botched is firing squad. Zero percent botched. But only,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, what, three states allow it? South Carolina's one, Utah,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe. Because it's hard to look at.

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<v Speaker 2>Horrific. Hard to look at.

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<v Speaker 1>You're shooting somebody in the heart. That's awful. But a

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<v Speaker 1>doctor putting a needle in the arm, we can do that. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That's okay. I'm just going to watch somebody fall asleep.

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<v Speaker 1>The result's the same.

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<v Speaker 2>The result is the same.

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<v Speaker 1>But the courts say that shooting, hanging, electrocution, nitrogen gas,

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<v Speaker 1>and lethal injection are legal methods. Pick one.

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't it interesting that the lethal injection by far has

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<v Speaker 2>had the most complications? By far. And yet it's the

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<v Speaker 2>one that makes us feel better because a needle doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>feel as violent as a bullet. No, no.

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<v Speaker 1>It's humanely.

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<v Speaker 2>That's for us. That's for us. That's not for us.

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<v Speaker 2>the death row inmate. That is for us to feel

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<v Speaker 2>better about what we're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Shoot them. Take them out back and shoot them is

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<v Speaker 1>what they used to do, Robes. I mean, this is

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<v Speaker 1>what we're talking about. And the one, do you remember

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<v Speaker 1>the one in South Carolina? Was it last year? Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the year before? Execution starts at the top of the hour.

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<v Speaker 1>We're getting results in a few minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Robes, there are some states, we get the results 10

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<v Speaker 1>minutes afterwards that the person is pronounced dead. Go to Florida.

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<v Speaker 1>Study them. Figure out what they're doing. But Rob, this is...

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<v Speaker 1>I think I would vote for a moratorium on lethal

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<v Speaker 1>injection in this country right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Agreed.

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<v Speaker 1>Stop it until we figure this out.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. Well, we will keep our eye on that

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<v Speaker 2>press conference that is happening later this morning in Nashville.

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<v Speaker 2>And we will keep our eye on that Texas execution

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<v Speaker 2>chamber that's happening later this evening. But for now, we

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<v Speaker 2>always appreciate you listening to us. I'm Amy Robach alongside

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<v Speaker 2>TJ Holmes.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk soon.