WEBVTT - Draft Preview and Q&A 0:00:02.040 --> 0:00:06.880 Welcome to the solid verbal. Call that for me. I'm 0:00:06.920 --> 0:00:09.680 a man, I'm for I've heard so many players say, well, 0:00:09.720 --> 0:00:11.640 I want to be happy, you want to be happy 0:00:11.680 --> 0:00:16.040 for Dake Edith state is that woo woom and Dan 0:00:16.360 --> 0:00:21.560 and tie welcome back to the solid verbal, Boys and girls. 0:00:21.640 --> 0:00:24.400 My name is Ty Hildebrand, joining me as always my 0:00:24.440 --> 0:00:27.360 good friend over there in New York City, My man 0:00:27.480 --> 0:00:31.680 Dan Rubinstein, Sir, how are you? I'm pretty good, I'm 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:32.080 not bad. 0:00:32.280 --> 0:00:36.479 Setting up the new home apartment studio coming along, and 0:00:36.560 --> 0:00:38.640 I say, I've got a thing to build later to 0:00:38.720 --> 0:00:40.800 store everything, sort of a cubby wall unit. 0:00:40.880 --> 0:00:43.680 So now, hold on, hold on. Last time we spoke 0:00:43.760 --> 0:00:47.240 of this very issue. Yes, I believe you were in 0:00:46.840 --> 0:00:48.839 a closet of some sort, weren't you. 0:00:49.520 --> 0:00:52.040 I'm no longer in the closet. No right, I can 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:53.920 come out and say that there has been more work 0:00:54.000 --> 0:00:56.440 done to the point where there is a rug down 0:00:56.480 --> 0:00:59.240 on the ground, there is some soundproof foam up on 0:00:59.280 --> 0:01:02.760 the walls, and there's actual light in this room because 0:01:02.800 --> 0:01:04.560 it was a room that didn't come pre installed with 0:01:04.600 --> 0:01:07.240 the light. So I have a sweet ikea pole lamp. 0:01:07.560 --> 0:01:11.720 You need motion in place. No life is good Tai 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:13.520 Life is good. I'm gonna go for a run after 0:01:13.560 --> 0:01:15.680 this because the sun is out, the sun. 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:18.240 Is out, the guns are out here in the east. 0:01:18.760 --> 0:01:22.319 Congratulations to everyone who was able to outlast the winter. 0:01:22.440 --> 0:01:24.200 I think we're finally through the woods. Although it did 0:01:24.240 --> 0:01:27.880 snow here yesterday, yes, which is not that as terrible. 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:30.480 So what are we talking about on today's show, Dan? 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:33.240 What are we talking about here? We are doing? 0:01:33.480 --> 0:01:36.760 We have Q and A and related to some timely 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:40.840 topics and some super untimely topics. So we have what 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:43.800 the NFL Draft is in eight days from when we're 0:01:43.840 --> 0:01:49.520 recording this Wednesday evening right correct, and we have spring football. 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:52.120 Most it turns out most games were canceled. I just 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:55.200 how Michigan's was like, they're just cancelations, which is fine, 0:01:55.760 --> 0:01:59.320 fewer people hurt probably, and just we're gonna look forward 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:02.160 to the season. Maybe a couple quarterback battles, and we 0:02:02.200 --> 0:02:05.080 don't have I don't think a lot of in depth 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:08.240 thoughts about the draft as non NFL fans. 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:10.680 Right, that is accurate? I would say, yeah, very so. 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:13.560 I think we're going to try and take a look 0:02:13.600 --> 0:02:15.760 at this, and I mean we can react to we've 0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:18.480 had these NFL draft experts as much as anybody can 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:21.600 be one on the show before to sort of say, hey, 0:02:21.639 --> 0:02:23.679 this is how this person progressed, and this is why 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:26.519 this person is considered to be a top twelve pick 0:02:26.600 --> 0:02:27.760 or a top three round pick. 0:02:27.800 --> 0:02:30.680 Whatever. But you know, we can react to like, oh, 0:02:30.720 --> 0:02:33.320 they're a first round pick. Weird, didn't seem that way. 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:36.240 But we can just sort of scan through it real quick, 0:02:36.280 --> 0:02:38.680 and then we have a ton of questions that we 0:02:38.680 --> 0:02:41.120 can probably get to about fifteen percent of them. That 0:02:41.240 --> 0:02:43.520 sounds good. Again. 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We're a college football 0:03:25.080 --> 0:03:27.679 show that goes year round, and there was a ton 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:30.280 of interest. By the way, well, we mentioned on the 0:03:30.360 --> 0:03:32.920 last show that we were going to be doing our 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:36.240 next live show in the Midwest in Chicago some point 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:39.640 early to mid August. We had some great suggestions come 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:43.800 into the inbox. It seems like there's a ton a 0:03:43.920 --> 0:03:45.800 ton of steam on this live show that we're going 0:03:45.880 --> 0:03:49.600 to put forth in August our next Fantasy Things Draft 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:51.160 in Chottown, Dan. 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:55.720 Yeah, So if anybody listening has ideas or knows people 0:03:56.040 --> 0:03:59.800 like we are interested in hearing about venues because we 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:02.880 want it to be the absolute best possible situation. We 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:04.920 want there to be food and drink. We're thinking, I 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:07.040 don't know about three hundred people. We like to keep 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:10.000 it sort of intimate, but yeah, we want to have 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:13.120 a great venue central everybody can get to know a 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:15.480 PA system of stage, that kind of thing, the basics. 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:17.040 So we're looking for venues for that. 0:04:17.160 --> 0:04:19.440 We're trying to figure out if we can add a 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:22.359 second show in another city, either before the season starts 0:04:22.440 --> 0:04:25.400 or within the season at some point. Sure, as we know, 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:31.040 listeners are spread out everywhere, but no that's the situation, Ty. 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:32.800 We're just living our best lives. 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:36.400 Living our best lives. Again, tell your friends. Solibble dot 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:39.400 com is our website. Come on out, subscribe. We'll be 0:04:39.480 --> 0:04:42.240 here all off season, and obviously once we get a 0:04:42.279 --> 0:04:44.080 little bit closer to the football season, we'll have more 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:47.440 football to discuss. But as you mentioned, we got this 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:51.040 whole draft thing, yes, staring us in the face. Now. 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:54.360 As you know, if you follow these sorts of things, 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:57.880 it's a weird hybrid. It's a crossover of sorts. For us, 0:04:58.240 --> 0:05:02.240 we've at times ruggled with how in depth we want 0:05:02.240 --> 0:05:06.040 to get with the NFL Draft. There is clearly a 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:09.000 stake in the game for a college football film because 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:15.040 as these players move forth and prosper in the professional ranks, 0:05:15.040 --> 0:05:18.040 oftentimes we're very interested to see how those players perform, 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:20.720 see how high up they go. There's certainly plenty of 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:22.839 intrigue when it comes to the NFL Draft, with teams 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:26.560 moving around and sometimes overvaluing and undervaluing, and it's a 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:29.640 whole different dimension. But we're going to try and do 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:32.080 our best to cover it. Here. We've got in front 0:05:32.120 --> 0:05:36.159 of us the Daniel Jeremiah Mock Draft. Yes from NFL 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:40.880 dot Com, and I guess the plan would be to 0:05:41.000 --> 0:05:43.760 go through to examine some of these players to the 0:05:43.800 --> 0:05:46.240 best of our abilities, not from an in depth standpoint 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:50.400 of how much can Saquon Barkley squad, but instead what 0:05:50.440 --> 0:05:53.240 did we see in college do we think that translates 0:05:53.240 --> 0:05:56.280 to the NFL? And what do we think the likelihood 0:05:56.440 --> 0:05:58.520 is of some of these guys succeeding at the same 0:05:58.640 --> 0:06:00.880 level or to a greater as they move on. 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:04.440 In a very certain way. And I do not mean 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:06.800 this in a crassway, which I really if you're going 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:10.720 to listen to our show consistently, you should listen to 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:12.840 it within the back of your head saying Dan does 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:17.000 not mean this in a crassway. The NFL draft and 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:20.400 the way we in that you know, people interested in 0:06:20.400 --> 0:06:23.920 football on all levels evaluate players is not unlike if ty, 0:06:24.080 --> 0:06:27.200 if you were just dropped into a different town and 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:32.400 we're tasked with finding a soulmate every year, you have 0:06:32.440 --> 0:06:34.240 to sort of you know, if you're in a tiny 0:06:34.279 --> 0:06:36.799 town all of a sudden, what you may be looking 0:06:36.839 --> 0:06:39.039 for might be different than if you were dropped into 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:41.520 a major city or a medium sized town. Like there 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:45.279 is a context to each draft class, which is interesting 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:48.800 to me because the most important position obviously is quarterback. 0:06:49.440 --> 0:06:52.440 So we're looking at a quarterback class which is I 0:06:52.440 --> 0:06:56.680 would say, pretty robust, pretty deep this year compared to 0:06:56.720 --> 0:06:57.440 some other years. 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:00.400 There's a ton of intrigue at the very top of it. 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:03.240 Yes, there's intrigue at the top, and then you know 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:05.800 it's spotty from there. From what I can tell as 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:09.440 a definite non expert, but like Sam Donald is somebody 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:12.800 who I think we liked watching for a long time, 0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:18.320 and obvious talent and athletic and improvises super well, made 0:07:18.720 --> 0:07:22.120 a good number of dumb mistakes trying to do too 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:25.560 much whatever is thought of to be the most valuable 0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:28.960 person in this draft. Yes, by some measures, by some measures, 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:31.640 by some measures, the position is so important. Let's put 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:34.840 this way in terms of quarterbacks, right, you definitely make 0:07:34.880 --> 0:07:37.920 that case. But I've also heard the case made for 0:07:38.080 --> 0:07:40.760 Saquon Barkley. I've heard the case made for Quentin Nelson, 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:43.440 I've heard the case made for Bradley Chubb, all of 0:07:43.520 --> 0:07:46.560 whom are very good players in their own right. But 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:49.920 you're correct, at least to the extent that as it 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:52.160 relates to quarterbacks, Sam Donald is getting a lot of 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:54.480 the press. I can't make a good argument that Sam 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:57.880 Donald isn't the best quarterback in this class. You know, 0:07:57.880 --> 0:08:00.160 and you know Baker Mayfield is a little bit small, 0:08:00.360 --> 0:08:03.920 and they wonder how Lincoln Riley's system, which has elements 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:06.680 of NFL systems but not all NFL systems, how that 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:09.440 translates to the next level. Josh Rosen has thought of 0:08:09.480 --> 0:08:13.040 to be the most advanced quarterback brain in terms of 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:16.400 understanding and computing. But then there's weird worries that he's 0:08:16.640 --> 0:08:20.560 too smart, right, and then Lamar Jackson might be a receiver. 0:08:20.680 --> 0:08:23.320 If you listen to the worst people who cover the sport, 0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:27.280 Josh Allen didn't complete a ton of passes. 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:30.520 Well's in the Mountain West. Let's do this. Let's start 0:08:30.360 --> 0:08:33.840 a quarterback. Okay, yeah, the big names that are out there, 0:08:34.040 --> 0:08:35.839 The Browns draft number one. Now, we're not going to 0:08:35.880 --> 0:08:38.679 break down what teams need, because neither you nor I 0:08:38.720 --> 0:08:41.600 are NFL experts, but we know that the Browns are 0:08:41.679 --> 0:08:43.440 drafting one. They actually have the fourth pick as well, 0:08:43.440 --> 0:08:45.840 at least as of now. And the names that you're 0:08:45.880 --> 0:08:48.760 going to hear, I think that are in contention for 0:08:48.840 --> 0:08:51.880 that first overall pick. It sounds like they want a quarterback. 0:08:51.960 --> 0:08:55.800 Maybe not right. The I guess insinuation at this point 0:08:55.840 --> 0:08:58.640 is that they want a quarterback. Sam Darnold is a name. 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:03.280 We've also got Josh Allen, who has been bullied throughout 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:08.800 the pre draft process from Wyoming. We've also got Josh Rosen, 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:13.280 who has long been my favorite from UCLA. We've got 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:17.600 Baker Mayfield, who has crept into that conversation as well. 0:09:18.080 --> 0:09:20.360 Who am I missing? There's also Lamar Jackson, who won't 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:24.200 go that high but is still a name that carries 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:27.280 with a bunch of intrigue. Of those guys that I 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:31.000 have named Dan, which direction would you go based on 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:33.680 what you saw in college? If you were picking number one. 0:09:33.559 --> 0:09:38.880 Overall, I'd probably go Rosen. Why I don't love Sam 0:09:38.960 --> 0:09:45.160 Darnold of these five guys? To me, like that indefinable 0:09:45.679 --> 0:09:49.920 thing seems to rest with Donald's in that he seems 0:09:50.320 --> 0:09:53.560 relatively trustworthy to just sort of get a team together 0:09:53.600 --> 0:09:55.400 for a seventy one yard drive at the end of 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:59.400 the game. But in terms of what the NFL will 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:03.240 throw at quarterbacks, which is far more advanced athletically and 0:10:03.280 --> 0:10:08.120 mentally than the college game, I tend to think Rosen 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:12.880 and even maybe Mayfield. I really like Baker Mayfield. I 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:15.840 like that fearlessness, I like that arm I like you know, 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:18.200 the throwing off platform is like a big thing that 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:21.080 you'll hear about him. But I really am a big 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:24.600 believer in those two dudes, just in terms of ready 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:25.360 to succeed. 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:28.040 It's interesting to me because I think each of them 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:31.160 has an interesting quality. Yeah, I don't know if any 0:10:31.200 --> 0:10:34.599 of them are fully rounded enough to truly be the 0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:37.280 number one overall pick. But Sam Donald has an intangible 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:40.600 to him. There's no denying he's got an intangible. Everyone 0:10:40.600 --> 0:10:43.560 who's around him likes him. He certainly would be a 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:46.880 good clubhouse guy, and he's got a ton of physical tools. 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:49.560 The problem that we talked about on the program all 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:51.280 throughout the course of the last season is when the 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:55.120 first read broke down, so did Sam Darnald. That was 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:58.960 the problem. Okay, and maybe is partially his fault, partially 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:01.880 the play call in the coaching, I don't know, but 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:05.920 that is the knock on Darnold. Josh Rosen, as you said, 0:11:06.200 --> 0:11:09.720 a smart kid, really smart, has a ton of physical tools, 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:13.040 but a little bit brittle was banned up a little 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:17.160 bit in college and there aren't these lingering questions about like, 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:19.840 what would what would happen to Josh Rosen if he 0:11:19.920 --> 0:11:24.280 ended up in Buffalo? What you can also what would 0:11:24.280 --> 0:11:26.800 happen to any of us if we ended up in Buffalo? Well, right, 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:29.080 and no disrespect to Buffalo, but you can only study 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:32.560 the Eerie Canal and Buffalo Wings so long before a 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:35.440 guy like Josh Rosen, who it seems like wants to 0:11:35.440 --> 0:11:38.920 be intellectually stimulated before he gets bored and wants to 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:41.040 do something else. I like that that's looked at as 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:43.400 a bad thing. Well it's not a bad thing, but 0:11:43.440 --> 0:11:45.520 I'm saying Josh Rosen just seems to kind of have 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:48.520 a wandering mind that's into everything, and the knock on 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:51.520 him is is maybe it's not into football quite enough. 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:53.800 Rightly or wrongly, that's what people say. 0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:56.079 Well, I mean they try to find things. I mean 0:11:56.120 --> 0:11:59.040 to sort of take into consideration what NFL scouts do 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:02.440 in terms of poking holes. I don't think there's a 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:04.200 lot of logic at no. 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:07.120 I mean, it's splitting hairs. The ultimate game is splitting here. 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:10.840 So that's Rosen, Baker Mayfield. What's a knock on Baker. 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:14.640 What he runs runs a little bit of hot, sometimes 0:12:14.679 --> 0:12:17.719 a little bit of a wild card, maybe a little undersized. 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:22.680 How does the Lincoln Riley system, the Lincoln Riley slash 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:26.520 Bob Stoops system translate to the college game? Sure, I 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:28.599 think that's all fair game. And Josh Allen's kind of 0:12:28.600 --> 0:12:31.760 an unknown. I saw some stuff on Twitter about, Hey, 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:33.720 let's talk about Josh Allen and how he likes to 0:12:33.760 --> 0:12:36.960 always roll out to the right m hm. And what 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:39.240 we saw from him last year wasn't all that special. 0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:41.800 He was probably not one of the best three quarterbacks 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:43.800 in the Mountain West in terms of production. 0:12:44.400 --> 0:12:46.640 So I guess to put a bit of an ambiguous 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:48.600 and uncertain bow on this thing. I don't know if 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:50.280 i'd take any one of these guys if I were 0:12:50.320 --> 0:12:52.720 picking number one overall. I think if I had to 0:12:52.760 --> 0:12:55.079 pick a quarterback though, of that group, I would probably 0:12:55.080 --> 0:12:58.480 go Darnald. I think Darnald might have the highest ceiling 0:12:58.520 --> 0:12:59.079 of all of those. 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:02.679 Maybe throws it to a lot of players wearing a 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:04.640 different color jersey than what he's wearing. 0:13:04.480 --> 0:13:07.560 But perhaps Gunslinger Dan Gunslinger. 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:10.160 I'll go through this quickly because I don't this is 0:13:10.160 --> 0:13:12.040 not going to relate to any NFL team. I would 0:13:12.080 --> 0:13:14.200 not take a running back in the top five, probably 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:17.080 even the top ten. Saqwon Barkley is otherworldly, and it's 0:13:17.080 --> 0:13:19.160 not because he's not. I just am not a big 0:13:19.200 --> 0:13:21.439 believer in that kind of value for somebody who takes 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:24.840 a hit on every play he touches the ball. I 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:26.959 love Vidavea. I think vidave is going to be a 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:28.840 really good player for a long time. If you haven't 0:13:28.840 --> 0:13:33.040 watched him play huge nose tackle for Washington, who is 0:13:33.120 --> 0:13:36.760 crazy athletic and huge motor really at like three hundred 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:39.400 and forty pounds. Mika Fitzpatrick I think is a very 0:13:39.440 --> 0:13:43.360 modern NFL player in that he is hybrid, can come 0:13:43.440 --> 0:13:45.480 up in the slot, can play outside a corner, can 0:13:45.600 --> 0:13:50.920 drop into a safety role. Really like Miga Fitzpatrick, I 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:53.640 Derwin James, I think we both have just deep, deep 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:59.240 crushes on time. He's top fifteen, top twenty ish in 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:02.560 this mock he is at seventeen, but he fits that 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:03.080 as well. 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:05.880 That hybrid guy still my beating heart. 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:09.640 I mean, it's there's a lot of that people trying 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:12.960 to because from what I can understand, the NFL is 0:14:13.559 --> 0:14:16.720 they try to copy year to year and Jalen Ramsey 0:14:16.720 --> 0:14:20.480 has this huge, huge impact as this super versatile defensive back, 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:22.120 and there are a couple of guys in this year 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:24.720 draft that have that potential to be able to be 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:25.520 moved around. 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:26.800 I suppose. 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:31.160 Beyond that, there's not you know, Sony Michelle is the 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:34.080 last pick in this in this mock love Sony Michelle 0:14:34.160 --> 0:14:37.800 feels about right, But yeah, I tend to gravitate towards 0:14:37.840 --> 0:14:41.040 and this is the big one I suppose is Quentin Nelson. Okay, 0:14:41.920 --> 0:14:46.520 Quentin Nelson just a wrecking ball of destruction of. 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:47.160 A young man. 0:14:48.120 --> 0:14:52.120 And I love when people are described as who he 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:52.800 plays angry. 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:55.160 He's got a nasty does play angry. 0:14:55.280 --> 0:15:00.160 Yeah, he was a total joy to watch. And you know, 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:03.080 perhaps not single handedly, but a good reason why Josh 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:05.240 Adams had the breakout year that he did last year, 0:15:05.600 --> 0:15:08.240 because that left side of the line for Notre Dame, 0:15:08.400 --> 0:15:11.760 as I'm sure you know and will deeply miss, was 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:12.600 was pretty incredible. 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:16.600 It was incredible. And one thing that I'm noticing here 0:15:17.080 --> 0:15:19.520 again the Daniel Jeremiah mock draft that we've got up 0:15:19.520 --> 0:15:23.600 from NFL dot Com. He's got Mike mcglinchy who was 0:15:23.840 --> 0:15:26.040 the tackle on the left side of that line for 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:28.400 Notre Dame all the way down at number twenty one 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:32.520 to the Bengals. Now, McGlinchey was a guy. Depending how 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:36.120 much attention you pay to these mock drafts, at some 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:38.880 point or another he was in many a top ten. 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:42.000 I like McGlinchey a lot. I think he will be 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:46.280 solid at the pro level. I also am somewhat scarred 0:15:46.360 --> 0:15:48.560 from the last play in the Georgia game where he 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:51.960 just got toasted around the edge. He did. And you know, 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:55.760 there were a couple moments like that in Mike mcglinchy's 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:59.960 season and really his Notre Dame career where again eight 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:03.760 percent of the time, very solid pro caliber player on 0:16:03.840 --> 0:16:05.800 the end of your line. A big deal to have 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:07.320 that in the college game, a big deal to have 0:16:07.360 --> 0:16:10.360 that at any level of the game. Just a couple 0:16:10.400 --> 0:16:13.760 moments here and there were mcglinchy just got iced and 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:16.240 I can't live those down. And when I see him 0:16:16.240 --> 0:16:17.840 down here at twenty one, I say to myself, out, 0:16:17.880 --> 0:16:20.080 that's about right. You got to go Quentin Nelson higher 0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:23.120 because you didn't have as many of those moments. If 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:25.640 you're Quentin Nelson compared to Mike mcglinch, right. 0:16:25.600 --> 0:16:29.160 He generated those moments for other people exactly on the 0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:31.560 other side of them, exactly exactly. 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:34.960 So both those guys, to your point, will sorely be 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:37.440 missed when it comes to the twenty eighteen Notre Dame 0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:40.960 football season that goes, can we sing? Can we transition 0:16:41.040 --> 0:16:44.520 from there? Who's coming for Notre Dame? 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:48.000 Who's hitting the left side of that line? And who 0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:51.120 is coaching that they lost their offensive line coach? Correct, 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:55.280 lost kind of everybody, man, right, So is are the 0:16:55.440 --> 0:17:00.160 prospects and my prospects, I mean looking forward? Are are 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:04.040 we thinking good things about Notre Dame's offensive line in 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:09.520 replacing these two clear top level talents on a decent level. 0:17:09.640 --> 0:17:12.800 The good news is that they've recruited very well, okay 0:17:13.119 --> 0:17:16.000 along on the offensive line, So you know, whether it's 0:17:16.640 --> 0:17:21.120 Liam Eichenberg or Josh Lugger some of the other guys 0:17:21.119 --> 0:17:23.760 that got coming in, they'll be okay. They just won't 0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:27.760 be as experienced up front, and it's gonna be difficult 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:30.359 to follow up the act of mcglinchy and Nelson. Even 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:32.840 if mcglinche got toasted a couple of times, it's still 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:34.760 a tough act to follow. He was a big dude, 0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:36.600 a big presence there on the left side of the line. 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:39.320 And especially now when I think you got questions about 0:17:39.359 --> 0:17:42.159 your quarterback situation, Brandon Wimbush didn't little comfortable at all 0:17:42.240 --> 0:17:47.399 last year. Is Wimbus gonna start? You're gonna have to 0:17:47.440 --> 0:17:49.280 give me a few minutes before we discuss that point. 0:17:49.320 --> 0:17:53.439 Come on, I kind of don't want him to start, 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:56.680 but will he I got to a point about eighty 0:17:56.720 --> 0:17:59.679 percent of the way through the year when I started 0:17:59.720 --> 0:18:02.720 really having these conversations with myself about whether or not 0:18:02.760 --> 0:18:06.320 Wimbush was the answer. When Wimbush was recruited and when 0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:09.920 he ultimately flipped from Penn State to come to Notre Dame, 0:18:09.960 --> 0:18:12.960 and then when he was lurking in the background as 0:18:12.960 --> 0:18:15.879 you had this whole controversy going on between Deshaun Kaiser 0:18:15.920 --> 0:18:18.800 and Malik Zayer, everyone was sort of talking on the 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:21.760 Notre Dame boards that I lurk on about how Brandon 0:18:21.760 --> 0:18:25.080 Wimbush could make all the throws. He's the athletic type 0:18:25.119 --> 0:18:28.120 that can run the precise system that we thought Notre 0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:31.040 Dame wanted to run, and things should all just go 0:18:31.080 --> 0:18:33.920 off without a hitch. Whenever he's inserted into that starting lineup, 0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:36.480 and then all throughout the course of the season last 0:18:36.560 --> 0:18:39.240 year and the beginning part of the season, everyone was 0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:41.960 telling me, don't jump the gun. Don't jump the gun. 0:18:42.160 --> 0:18:44.959 He's a first time starter at the college level. If 0:18:45.000 --> 0:18:46.680 he's not doing what you'll want him to do, it's 0:18:46.720 --> 0:18:50.560 because he's just he's green, Dan, he's learning the system. 0:18:51.240 --> 0:18:53.880 I can honestly say, I don't feel like Wimbush got 0:18:53.880 --> 0:18:55.879 any better from the start of the year to the 0:18:55.960 --> 0:18:58.520 end of the year. In spots, he had moments right, 0:18:59.160 --> 0:19:02.280 moments are brilliant, but he did not get better from 0:19:02.280 --> 0:19:03.800 the start of the year to the end of the season. 0:19:05.240 --> 0:19:09.000 Well, here's I mean the actual context, though, You're only 0:19:09.040 --> 0:19:12.679 as good as your options and our Notre Dame's options. 0:19:12.800 --> 0:19:16.439 At a point where you can get rid of a 0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:21.280 guy who helped to lead a good or pretty good offense, 0:19:21.480 --> 0:19:23.240 just a flawed offense. 0:19:23.240 --> 0:19:27.439 He gives them something on the ground for sure, that 0:19:27.480 --> 0:19:31.119 Ian book doesn't right. Brandon Wimbush, no doubt a talented runner, 0:19:31.760 --> 0:19:35.200 but eventually teams figured that out. Dan. Eventually people can 0:19:35.280 --> 0:19:38.040 key on that, and we saw that happen in spots 0:19:38.080 --> 0:19:40.199 when they forced Brandon Wimbush to throw. He just never 0:19:40.240 --> 0:19:42.680 looked comfortable. More often than not, he just did not 0:19:42.800 --> 0:19:45.560 seem comfortable or he wanted to scramble, and that was 0:19:45.600 --> 0:19:48.160 the problem with him. So ian Book gives them more 0:19:48.800 --> 0:19:51.840 in terms of raw passing talent at this point, and 0:19:51.920 --> 0:19:54.800 we saw flashes here and there of ian Book. I 0:19:54.800 --> 0:19:57.280 thought he looked fine as a passer. He certainly plays 0:19:57.280 --> 0:20:00.000 with the confidence in the passing game that Wimbush didn't. 0:20:00.640 --> 0:20:03.280 That is, I think something to watch for as we 0:20:03.320 --> 0:20:06.600 start talking quarterback controversies now moving into twenty eighteen. The 0:20:06.640 --> 0:20:10.200 other name I'll throw in there is Phil Jerkovic, who 0:20:10.240 --> 0:20:13.520 is there. Freshman comes to Notre Dame from Western Pennsylvania, 0:20:14.320 --> 0:20:17.720 and I didn't read much about him getting any serious 0:20:17.760 --> 0:20:20.919 looks for the starting position, but I could definitely envision 0:20:20.960 --> 0:20:22.600 a situation and wish that were the case. 0:20:22.800 --> 0:20:25.400 That's if you are going to roll with a true freshman, 0:20:25.800 --> 0:20:29.560 if there is no smoke around him at least like, oh, 0:20:29.640 --> 0:20:32.520 he picked up the offense immediately, he has a contender 0:20:32.560 --> 0:20:35.240 for this job in the way that say Trevor Lawrence. 0:20:35.359 --> 0:20:37.919 Immediately you know there was smoke around him, and he 0:20:37.960 --> 0:20:40.359 had a the spring game doesn't actually matter. But in 0:20:40.440 --> 0:20:43.760