WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Minicamp Insights 0:00:02.320 --> 0:00:04.840 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.840 --> 0:00:13.440 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This is Talking 0:00:13.640 --> 0:00:18.080 Cowboys training live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at 0:00:18.079 --> 0:00:29.240 the Star in Friscoota. And now your hosts Isaiah Stanback, 0:00:29.560 --> 0:00:38.720 heck Ma Harrison, Rob Phillips, and Kyle Yeoman's it's another 0:00:38.880 --> 0:00:43.280 edition of Talking Cowboys here from the s WBC studios 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:47.200 at the Star in Frisco. It's not only a TCT, 0:00:47.520 --> 0:00:52.760 heck Ma Harrison, it is a Mini Camp TCT because 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:57.480 Mini Camp Mandatory Mini camps are underway today from the 0:00:57.560 --> 0:01:00.800 Star in Frisco the next three days, a preview to 0:01:00.920 --> 0:01:04.160 what Oxnard will be coming up in the latter parts 0:01:04.160 --> 0:01:07.119 of July. But then we hit a bit of a break. 0:01:07.520 --> 0:01:09.440 We hit this mini camp and then we hit a break, 0:01:09.480 --> 0:01:11.920 and so we're gonna break it down for you Today 0:01:12.080 --> 0:01:17.399 is always alongside my great buddy heck Ma Harrison. That's it. 0:01:17.480 --> 0:01:22.559 That's the only people in the studio. It's all we've got. 0:01:23.319 --> 0:01:26.080 We had an earlier show today because of Mini Camp 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:28.600 because the schedule gets pushed up and Mike McCarthy as 0:01:28.600 --> 0:01:32.160 a press conference, and then we've got practice at eleven 0:01:32.280 --> 0:01:34.360 thirty that the media is able to go out and watch, 0:01:34.480 --> 0:01:36.480 but I guess we were the only ones that got 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:39.800 to memo. Yeah, it seems as though that is the case. 0:01:39.840 --> 0:01:42.000 But men, like you said, man, this is a this 0:01:42.080 --> 0:01:44.600 is a great day. It's a great day. Mini camp 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:49.320 is on and Rob pie Island. Hello, sir, how are 0:01:49.400 --> 0:01:53.600 you hello? Yeah, he's in here. He was doing actual work, 0:01:53.680 --> 0:01:56.240 so we give him flat but but no, I mean 0:01:56.240 --> 0:01:59.840 it's just literally, today is that day mandatory. So everybody 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:05.960 hands on deck. It's been voluntary falling air quote voluntary before, 0:02:06.160 --> 0:02:09.520 but now all hands on deck, everyone's got to be here. 0:02:09.560 --> 0:02:12.520 I'm just excited that obviously now media is able to 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:14.360 be back in the building, and it's just starting to 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:20.360 feel so much more reck normal. And I almost hesitate 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:22.120 to say that because it's like as soon as you 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:26.000 say things feeling normal again, something happens, but it really does. 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:28.359 It feels good to have this access, to be able 0:02:28.360 --> 0:02:30.880 to watch practice in person, be able to listen to 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:33.760 these interviews after practice. It's just awesome. Man. It's just 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:36.840 it's a vibe of buzz in the building that's set 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:40.560 off the fire alarms. Pe so last call for us Yeah, 0:02:40.600 --> 0:02:42.200 fire alarm. That was that was That was fun. I 0:02:42.560 --> 0:02:44.560 was trying to finish up something on the website. Yeah, 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:47.680 and now I'm here and I've got a little bit 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:52.800 of news. Oh, break it down. Yeah, Dalton Schultz is back. 0:02:53.480 --> 0:02:56.120 He is back in the building. He will participate in 0:02:56.120 --> 0:02:59.320 the mandatory mini camp. I guess he would have been 0:02:59.320 --> 0:03:01.959 subject to fire had he not been. But we'll see 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:05.440 if that leads to contract talks any more intensified contract talks. 0:03:05.600 --> 0:03:07.480 The other thing is I'm in shorts, hex and a 0:03:07.480 --> 0:03:10.320 Hawaiian shirt. We're all gonna be out, Yeah, we're already. 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:12.960 This is an indoor practice. Yeah, this is indoor practice 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:14.800 to day. Yeah, and which might be kind of cold 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:17.359 inside for it center by the time we get outside 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:20.640 for like eleven thirty twelve o'clock practice, it's gonna be 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:22.560 ninety degrees, which means it's probably gonna one hundred and 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:25.200 ten out there on the field. So I think Mike decided, 0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:27.680 m let's let's just do this not today, not today. 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:30.120 Well that makes me think that throughout the week they 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:32.280 would be inside as well, because it's not supposed to 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:34.480 get any cooler. I mean, it's not supposed to cool 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:36.960 down at all great point. So if they're not out 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:39.400 there today, they may they may push it for a day. 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:42.400 I would anticipate maybe one day they'll go out there. 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:43.880 They're not gonna tell us what day it is, so 0:03:43.920 --> 0:03:45.920 it we'll be in shorts all week long and then 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:47.720 we'll figure it out. As soon as we get in 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:49.680 the building and we look outside, and then on the 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:52.800 practice field, it's, oh, there's there's nothing out there. Because 0:03:52.800 --> 0:03:54.440 I walked in them was the first thing I saw. 0:03:54.720 --> 0:03:58.200 Was just not uh, And I wasn't expecting that, and 0:03:58.240 --> 0:04:00.120 I wasn't expecting it was just the first thing that 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:02.680 I noticed when I looked him, like, wait a minute, 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:08.119 they're not any pads up there. Please you just keep going. 0:04:09.960 --> 0:04:16.480 We're getting an emergency alarmed Chris, I did too, is 0:04:16.640 --> 0:04:19.400 not here. I wish it was, oh gosh, what are 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:22.760 you doing to a CBS our emergency break. Isaiah's trying 0:04:22.760 --> 0:04:25.320 to talk to He's talking with Jerry Madelon, who's been 0:04:25.360 --> 0:04:28.240 here the last couple of days giving great insight to 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:30.680 all of the on air talent. And he just walked by, 0:04:30.839 --> 0:04:32.920 tried to get in the door, couldn't and then they 0:04:32.960 --> 0:04:36.000 just kept going. I went to open the door for 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:38.800 him and they were going down the hall. So business 0:04:38.839 --> 0:04:41.600 calls Isaiah will be here at some point. Everybody, Well, 0:04:42.200 --> 0:04:45.040 Dalton Schultz is probably the biggest news. You mentioned it 0:04:45.120 --> 0:04:48.679 a moment ago. He is anticipated to get back into 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:52.880 these mandatory mini camps and make things happen on the field. 0:04:52.920 --> 0:04:55.800 But off the field, it said that talks have been intensifying. 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:57.760 Have you heard something similar of the sort. Yeah, I 0:04:57.800 --> 0:05:01.800 don't know how much, but talking to people last week 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:05.160 when he wasn't here, you know they want to get 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:07.680 a deal done. That's on the Cowboys side. Now. There 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:10.279 hasn't been a lot of movement to this point, obviously 0:05:10.279 --> 0:05:13.800 not enough for him to feel like I got to 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:15.800 make a point last week and not show up. But 0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:18.000 I do think that's something the Cowboys want to work towards. Now. 0:05:18.000 --> 0:05:20.120 It's under a month. Now, they've got I think twenty 0:05:20.200 --> 0:05:22.160 nine days to get it done or thirty one days 0:05:22.160 --> 0:05:25.600 to get it done. We'll see. If Dak Prescott didn't 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:28.719 get a long term deal done in twenty twenty, then 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:31.360 nothing's off the table. Like it wouldn't surprise me if 0:05:31.360 --> 0:05:32.920 they don't get it done. But I do think it's 0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:35.760 something the cowboys want to work towards because they do 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:38.560 value what he brings to the table, obviously, and it 0:05:38.560 --> 0:05:40.880 would help them from a salary cap perspective too, to 0:05:40.920 --> 0:05:44.080 try to, you know, maybe lessen their cap. It creates 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:47.360 some more space going forward. How's it going, isam? Hello? Kyle? 0:05:47.520 --> 0:05:49.600 How are you, sir? I'm great? How about you? I'm 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:53.000 fan Tabuloso. Good. You have a good chat with Jerry? Yeah, 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:55.000 ge mat Man. I'd love to see him. Man. Obviously 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:56.520 we talk on the phone all the time, but it's 0:05:56.560 --> 0:05:59.039 always good to have your coach in person. This is 0:05:59.040 --> 0:06:01.320 the first time that y'all have got me. I know 0:06:01.360 --> 0:06:03.279 you met him back in the day, but did y'all 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:06.159 beat him? Yeah? Yeah, we've met a number of times before. Okay, yeah, 0:06:06.200 --> 0:06:08.080 yeah I didn't. I mean, but this this back to 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:11.279 back days with amazing shirts. I love it. Oh it's nothing, man, 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:13.640 It's a thing. I mean, it's summed in him. It's nice. 0:06:13.920 --> 0:06:16.080 Got a quarter. What's what's the thread account on that? 0:06:16.120 --> 0:06:20.159 I mean that looks soft and supple, soft and over 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:24.080 nine thousand. Yeah, it's over nine thousand. Definitely. I don't 0:06:24.080 --> 0:06:29.320 think he does threat accounts. Thiggy Chris, I really kind 0:06:29.360 --> 0:06:31.880 of a backhand. No, that's no. No, No, him and 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:34.320 I are the same. We don't like price tags, a 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:37.080 low price tage. We'll work, We'll take it. Got it, same, 0:06:37.480 --> 0:06:40.560 same right on there. All right, let's let's preview this 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:45.480 mini camp because specifically fans out there they want every 0:06:45.600 --> 0:06:48.520 single ounce. What's up. I'm sorry, and I don't mean 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:51.960 to stop you. This is an interruption. It is it is. 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:55.560 You did a celebrity run day. We're not just gonna 0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:58.400 go like I just gonna this in the second segment. 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:00.680 Oh you were, Yeah, I'm since, but it was Wade. 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:02.040 I was going to hit it in the second throw 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:04.680 it out there. Yeah, I played like trash. Yeah, I 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:06.640 was disappointed. He struck out in the celebrity I did. 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:08.360 I did not strike Yes, you did. No, I did 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:11.560 not get hit. Two foul balls, that's strike out. That's 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:15.400 definitely not strike strikeout. I made contact, Kim Hamlets struck out. 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:17.400 Did you put the ball in play? I did? No? 0:07:17.520 --> 0:07:19.960 You didn't. Okay, because you want a two time because 0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:22.320 you can hit it all? Still strike out off for 0:07:22.400 --> 0:07:24.640 the second time. You fouled off both. Yeah, you left 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:26.440 before the second one. Oh, so you want struck out 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:28.600 in the first step bat. No, I fouled out. I 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:30.320 have it was a foul out, and there's a strikeouts 0:07:30.360 --> 0:07:32.960 two different things. Stop it. I go on the bike 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:34.920 out and foul out two separate. It was, Yes, it 0:07:35.000 --> 0:07:37.640 was a toss. I got video for evidence this studio. 0:07:38.120 --> 0:07:40.440 I fouled out. I guess we're just doing this foul 0:07:40.480 --> 0:07:42.280 ball doing this in the Yeah, we're gonna do that 0:07:42.320 --> 0:07:45.000 for a segment. I hit two fous my first up 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:47.320 and my second up. I hit it into the outfield. 0:07:47.320 --> 0:07:48.720 It was a pop up. So I had a bad 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:51.720 outing as an offensive player. That's okay. I made some 0:07:51.800 --> 0:07:54.520 good play. I threw somebody out at home. Okay. I 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:56.240 made a couple of good catches. But that's expected. You're 0:07:56.240 --> 0:07:59.040 supposed to do that. I didn't hit will who was disappointed? 0:07:59.080 --> 0:08:01.800 Who was pitching? Who do we have pitch? I think 0:08:02.400 --> 0:08:05.920 Kevin Minch, I think was pitching. Okay, former pro, former 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:09.320 Big leaguer, Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was under hand though 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:13.000 we also had Cole you know. Yeah. I couldn't hit that, 0:08:13.280 --> 0:08:17.000 so you know, yes, you know, man, you got it. 0:08:17.040 --> 0:08:18.760 I didn't get past tea ball. So I'm not part 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:21.000 of this. I'm not part of this. I'll let you 0:08:21.040 --> 0:08:23.679 guys down, so I apologize. I'll make it up another day. Sorry, 0:08:24.360 --> 0:08:26.480 I was trust me that nobody was harder on themselves 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:29.960 than I was. I could tell. Yeah, I don't like 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:32.960 frust for me. I just I just wanted to know. 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:35.000 I mean, I'm sorry, I mean you he's in here 0:08:35.000 --> 0:08:38.280 and I've been waiting to hear about that. I was 0:08:38.360 --> 0:08:41.760 looking forward to coming in here and just boasting, but 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:44.400 I didn't do it in past years. I've been freaking amazing. 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:46.560 This past year, I just wasn't. I'm not gonna make 0:08:46.559 --> 0:08:49.040 any excuses. Too many mine, too many didn't do well. 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:52.840 It didn't do well. Yeah, the uh well, we'll hit 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:55.720 Reliant and we'll hit Green Foundation at the start of 0:08:55.720 --> 0:08:58.760 the segment, just for for people that are are listening 0:08:58.760 --> 0:09:01.600 and want to hear about many camps specifically. But yeah, 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:03.800 it wasn't great outing. There were a lot of great 0:09:03.800 --> 0:09:06.679 cowboys out there though, former cowboys, and they hang out 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:11.160 with a lot of boys. Ken Hamlin, Evan Oglesby. It's 0:09:11.200 --> 0:09:14.560 all for a great cause. Absolutely good stuff. Yeah, really 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:16.920 really cool day at the ballpark. And we'll hit the 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:19.080 Green Family Foundation, which we talked about in our last 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:21.480 episode coming up here in a little bit. But let's 0:09:21.520 --> 0:09:25.079 talk about MANI camps specifically, like I said, because fans 0:09:25.200 --> 0:09:28.840 want to know what to expect, and honestly, we are 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:31.640 having that same conversation in the room here. What are 0:09:31.640 --> 0:09:35.679 we expecting out of mini camp? And Mike McCarthy's been 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:39.160 very adamant about the GPS systems and about putting players 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:42.680 through the right amount of work throughout his career here 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:45.000 with the Cowboys. But Rob, when you look at a 0:09:45.120 --> 0:09:48.320 three day stretch like this, where you're having camp esque 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:52.800 practices without the pads, but still a high intensity, high 0:09:52.800 --> 0:09:55.439 work level, what are you expecting from these next couple 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:57.840 of days and how that could lead into a bit 0:09:57.840 --> 0:10:00.520 of a break before Oxnar. You know see, I don't 0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:03.640 think it's a whole lot different than OTAs. The main 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:06.880 difference is contractually, if you don't show up Dalton Schultz, 0:10:06.920 --> 0:10:09.440 who is here, then you're, yeah, you're subject to a fine. 0:10:09.480 --> 0:10:13.400 Other than that, I think no pads, the pace of practice, 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:15.559 like you said, the intensity, I think it's pretty much 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:18.440 the same as OTAs. Now, I will say, if you 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:21.720 go back to last week, there were guys he was 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:24.000 he was being like to your point, he was being 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:27.040 mindful of guys reps. Last week there were certain vets 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:28.720 that did not take part in some of the stuff, 0:10:29.679 --> 0:10:31.400 and I don't think it was really injury related too. 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:33.320 I'm thinking about, you know, some of the offensive lineman 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:37.400 Tyrann Smith, Zach Martin, Jaron Kurse, guys. He's being mindful 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:39.520 of guys reps. And he did mention last week Mike 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:43.360 McCarthy that there's a rookie wall that's present already for 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:46.679 guys after eight installs heading into OTA, So I think 0:10:46.720 --> 0:10:50.640 that's he's mindful of that too. So I think there's 0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:53.280 probably somewhat of a review of the of the installs 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:55.760 and some competitive stuff. We'll see how it's scripted, but 0:10:55.960 --> 0:10:57.720 I don't think it's a heck of a lot different 0:10:57.760 --> 0:10:59.760 than what we've seen in the last three weeks what 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:02.600 you expect to see out there specifically, you know, I 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:06.880 think one the way that OTAs has changed probably a 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:09.240 lot less physical than back when when you played. So 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:11.680 you know, I think for like say, for instance, for 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:14.679 the defense, it's all about reading, react and having your keys. 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:16.880 Now you've been in the system for two years, and 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:19.000 I think for dan Quinn that's all he wants to see. 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:21.800 He wants to see his guys in different scenarios, different sets. 0:11:21.800 --> 0:11:24.160 How do we cover bunch, how do we cover trips, 0:11:24.160 --> 0:11:26.240 how do we cover twins? Things like that. You know, 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:29.160 in the defense, I've seen a lot of guys moving around, 0:11:29.200 --> 0:11:32.720 So I think that position lex that we talk about, 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:35.120 We're starting to see a lot of that become apparent 0:11:35.160 --> 0:11:39.160 with guys like Chauncey Gholston. How does Dante Fowler, you know, 0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:42.160 his impact on this defense, him being able to upload 0:11:42.240 --> 0:11:44.760 what you know Dan Quinn has been teaching. But I 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:47.640 think for me, I want to see this team because 0:11:47.640 --> 0:11:51.200 coaches always say I don't coach penalties. This is a 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:53.440 team that was the most penalized team in the NFL 0:11:53.520 --> 0:11:57.600 last year, and holding penalties plague them. You just go 0:11:57.720 --> 0:12:01.680 back to the playoff game, which has a bad taste 0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:05.040 in everyone's mouth. You know, those penalties really was the 0:12:05.080 --> 0:12:07.640 difference in the game, although all you can think of 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:10.200 is Dak running out of time and on that last play. 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:13.440 But seriously, these are just the things that I think 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:16.360 that this team has to go into this season thinking 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:19.320 we got to clean up some of these penalties before 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:21.960 the defense is just the read and react portion of it. Yeah, 0:12:22.000 --> 0:12:25.760 I think so that the fans understand the priority during 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:29.640 Mini campus, just the expectation levels raised, right. We expect 0:12:29.720 --> 0:12:31.960 you now to understand what you're supposed to be doing. 0:12:32.240 --> 0:12:35.200 We expect you now to apply the install that we've 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:37.400 done over the past however many weeks. We expect you 0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:39.520 to have that tightened down now, right, Like, you can't 0:12:39.559 --> 0:12:41.600 make those same mistakes. You can't say you don't know, 0:12:41.679 --> 0:12:44.599 you can't say that you forgot, you can't line up incorrectly, 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:47.320 you can't make the wrong read. The expectation now is 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:50.200 that this is a rough draft or what we're going 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:51.920 to hit at the end of July here, and you 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:54.120 need to have these things tightened down. So it's kind 0:12:54.160 --> 0:12:56.400 of like you're it's kind of like a mid term, right, 0:12:56.400 --> 0:12:57.880 It's kind of like a midterm, Like it's not your 0:12:57.880 --> 0:13:00.200 final grade, right, but it's gonna give us a great idea. 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:01.800 It's gonna give us a great idea of what to 0:13:01.800 --> 0:13:03.640 expect here towards the end of it, towards when it 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:06.720 actually matters. And that's exactly where these guys are at 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:09.240 right now. So guys are they should be in shape 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:11.400 now right there? Shouldn't. There shouldn't be guys out there 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:13.840 huffing and puffing in terns where they worried weeks ago, 0:13:13.880 --> 0:13:16.560 you know. So there's no conditioning element to it, and 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:19.680 there's no mental failure. There shouldn't be at least no 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:21.800 mental fatigue. You should know exactly what you need to 0:13:21.840 --> 0:13:24.080 be doing, and you should be in a position physically 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:26.240 and mentally in order in position to be able to 0:13:26.720 --> 0:13:29.000 execute it. But if for the average fan that doesn't 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:32.600 know and understand what all of that means for the season, 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:35.040 like everything that you're talking about, what is that? What 0:13:35.160 --> 0:13:37.760 is how does that help your team success wise? And 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:39.560 when the season comes around? Yeah? So, I mean, let's 0:13:39.600 --> 0:13:41.880 imagine if we all were in here playing the same position, okay, 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:43.800 and you know, say, you know that side of the 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:46.000 room is all vaccine and we're all the rookies over here. 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:48.800 Guess what what we've done in Ota? So okay, cool, 0:13:48.960 --> 0:13:51.440 we you guys have less grace. We have more grace 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:53.360 because we're the rookies, right in terms of us being 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:55.160 able to learn to come in and adapt and all 0:13:55.160 --> 0:13:59.600 that jazz mini camps. Oh, now, the rookies, we expect 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:01.480 you to put form like like the Vets. Not quite 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:03.160 like the Vets, right, but you we need to see 0:14:03.400 --> 0:14:04.959 some hint that you guys should be on the same 0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:07.240 on the same playing field, right. And if we don't 0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:09.559 see that, ah, now I have idea of where guys 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:11.480 are going to be slotted once we get to camp. 0:14:11.480 --> 0:14:12.920 Because once we get to camp, we got a couple 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:15.280 of weeks of practice and guess what, we got games. Yeah, 0:14:15.400 --> 0:14:17.760 so I don't have time to be fooling around trying 0:14:17.760 --> 0:14:20.360 to figure out if you're ready to go. This gives 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:22.560 me a great snapshot or whether or not I could 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:24.400 put you in a position to play with the big 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:25.920 boys on the other side of the room. Yeah, Because 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:28.680 Mike McCarthy talked about he said last year, I played 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:31.360 more rookies early than I ever have in my career. 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:33.320 And we think about all the guys, especially on defense 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:36.120 that did that and made those contributions. That's a credit 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:38.480 to what they were able to apply this time. Yeah, 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:42.960 last year. So they've got to be able to catch up, 0:14:43.000 --> 0:14:44.680 because that's the other thing he talks about. There's a 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:46.920 gap right now between the rookie class and what the 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:49.280 Vets can do. How quickly can they catch up? How 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:51.720 much can they show what they're doing well at this 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:54.320 point heading in and hex right with the penalties, Like 0:14:55.040 --> 0:14:57.360 Matt will, let's go the fourth round draft pick. I 0:14:57.400 --> 0:14:59.000 want to say it was either rookie camp or early 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:01.680 in OTAs. He had a he got taken out. Now, 0:15:01.720 --> 0:15:05.200 Mike said that was something he does going all the 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:07.760 way back to Green Bay. But clearly, clearly it's an 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:10.720 emphasis because to a certain extent, they beat themselves last 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:12.600 year with some of the just kind of getting out 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:14.880 of their own head. Now you mentioned some of the 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:19.000 youth and how that youth was successful last year. When 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:22.000 you're a young player, there's so many steps along the way, 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:24.960 so you finally get to training camp. There's the OTAs, 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:26.920 there's the rookie mini camp, and there's of course the 0:15:26.960 --> 0:15:32.680 mini camp, which one is the toughest from an informational standpoint, 0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:34.880 because you're drinking from a fire hose all summer long, 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:36.720 trying to get a playbook ready, trying to get in 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:38.680 the right place at the right time. But now, like 0:15:38.720 --> 0:15:41.800 you said that that expectation has risen, it would make 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:43.800 me think that mini camp would be the toughest on 0:15:43.880 --> 0:15:46.640 young players, or is it another part of the off seasons. 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:52.240 Good question. I would say that from the self applied pressure, 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:54.840 I would say that OTAs and you know Mini camp 0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:58.360 is probably the most even level. Yeah, you know that's 0:15:58.440 --> 0:16:00.680 you're in terms of Ricky's coming in an applying pressure 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:02.840 unto themselves. Right, I'm coming out, I'm trying to impress, 0:16:02.960 --> 0:16:05.240 I'm trying to learn, right, I'm trying to get in shape. 0:16:05.240 --> 0:16:07.000 All these kind of all these different pressures, right, these 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:10.480 different elements that's all taking place at OTAs in Mini camp. 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:12.120 Now when you get the training camp, it's a whole 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:15.240 different type of pressure because now it's the expectation, right, 0:16:15.280 --> 0:16:17.560 the portion I just talked about. Now, I've been through 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:19.160 all that, I've been able to get in shape, I've 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:21.440 been able to learn the system. But now we have 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:23.400 to do it in It matters because you know, two 0:16:23.440 --> 0:16:25.720 weeks we're playing a game. You know, there's no there's 0:16:25.760 --> 0:16:27.800 no wayte of reps. Right, I don't have time for 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:30.000 you to be It sounds bad, but I don't have 0:16:30.040 --> 0:16:31.960 time for you to be trying to develop because there's 0:16:32.000 --> 0:16:33.920 only so many plays we have in practice, right, we're 0:16:33.960 --> 0:16:35.800 running sixty plays. I don't have time to be giving 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:38.680 you ten fifteen plays. I gotta get these camps ready 0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:41.120 to play right, So if you're ready to roll cool, 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:42.520 I'll roll you in there. That's what I'm talking about. 0:16:42.520 --> 0:16:44.400 As far as those guys looking like they should be 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:47.520 on the same playing field, I'm getting OTAs. Mini camp 0:16:47.600 --> 0:16:49.640 gives you a snapshot of whether or not these guys 0:16:49.640 --> 0:16:52.000 are ready to compete with those vets on your team. 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:54.480 And if you're not, then guess what. I now know 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:56.800 you're gonna get that third team reps. You're gonna get 0:16:56.800 --> 0:16:58.400 those second team rests because the first team has to 0:16:58.400 --> 0:17:00.360 get ready to play a game. Hack. When you've been 0:17:00.360 --> 0:17:04.080 out there watching practices, is there anybody that in that 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:07.280 rookie class has already looked like they're a step ahead 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:09.520 of the game. I want to say Tyler Smith, just 0:17:09.560 --> 0:17:12.120 based off of aesthetics. You know, he's a big kid, 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:17.720 he big man, and you know he moves well. He 0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:19.639 has the most pressure on him, I mean, because the 0:17:19.680 --> 0:17:22.119 Cowboys got to know that they're right about that twenty 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:25.160 fourth pick, and you you know, just if we're talking 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:27.680 about pressure, he has a ton of it on him. 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:30.080 And he also has kind of a government right breathing 0:17:30.160 --> 0:17:32.880 down his neck. So there's gonna be a lot of competition, 0:17:32.920 --> 0:17:34.720 like you always talk about, Man, I want to see 0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:37.960 the competition, guys competing for this starting spot at the 0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:40.000 left guard. But the Cowboys got to know that they 0:17:40.000 --> 0:17:42.240 were right about him and they got to find this out. 0:17:42.280 --> 0:17:45.840 That's why everything that you were pointing to about the conditioning, 0:17:45.880 --> 0:17:48.679 the disciplines, all of those things. For me, it's just 0:17:48.720 --> 0:17:51.880 allowing these guys to play fast. He's already that guy 0:17:51.920 --> 0:17:54.320 that you project as. Is he a guard? Is he 0:17:54.359 --> 0:17:57.000 a tackle? Well, he's a left guard for from now 0:17:57.080 --> 0:17:59.879 and all the way through Oxnard and the season started. 0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:03.399 Can he adapt to what they're asking of him? And 0:18:03.720 --> 0:18:06.280 again the bigger questions start today. He asked to start 0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:08.639 filling in those blanks. Yeah. The first thing you notice 0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:10.359 about him, and it's kind of the same thing I 0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:12.760 noticed about Tyrn Smith when he first came in is 0:18:13.119 --> 0:18:17.159 good comparison. It's not bad, not bad. Is his heavy hands? Okay, 0:18:17.240 --> 0:18:20.080 heavy hands? Like one of the nicknames they had they 0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:23.000 gave for Tyrn early on was Hotel California because he's 0:18:23.040 --> 0:18:26.000 from LA and when he got your hands on you, 0:18:25.400 --> 0:18:28.240 you're not checking out. Yeah, Okay, that's that's really That's 0:18:28.240 --> 0:18:30.439 where it came from and there were some plays in 0:18:30.440 --> 0:18:33.840 practice you've seen where he'll get his hands on somebody 0:18:33.880 --> 0:18:37.800 Micah Parsons even stop rips, plays over vice gripts, and 0:18:37.880 --> 0:18:41.280 so that's that's good for playing guard, that's what they need. 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:45.040 They need that power inside. And I think there's there's 0:18:45.040 --> 0:18:48.160 a feeling within the building too, he might be better 0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:51.280 off playing guard right away than tackle because because of 0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:54.359 that physical still set and that things happen faster inside. 0:18:54.400 --> 0:18:58.000 You don't have to worry about um, these outstanding edge 0:18:58.040 --> 0:19:01.320 rushers in the NFL and having to play space as much. Yeah, 0:19:01.400 --> 0:19:04.439 it's it's definitely. I mean, if there's one player to 0:19:04.520 --> 0:19:07.000