Speaker 1: I miss the green for example, I'm already upset.
Speaker 2: When I find my ball in the bunker, I'm really upset.
Speaker 3: And when I find my ball in a brid Egg
Speaker 3: Friday Egg, the dreaded Friday Egg, Friday Friday Bride Egg.
Speaker 2: Lie, I'm about ready to run off of the course.
Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back for another edition of the
Speaker 2: Friday Egg Podcast. We are joined tonight by Tron Carter
Speaker 2: of No Laying Up and uh dj Piehowski of the
Speaker 2: PGA Tour runs the Scratch Media, our our favorite alternative
Speaker 2: golf content source that's not independent. So guys, welcome on.
Speaker 2: Been an exciting two days of coverage.
Speaker 1: Thanks Andy Pome to be here.
Speaker 3: I would say it's been an exciting two days. I
Speaker 3: wouldn't say it's been an exciting two days of coverage.
Speaker 1: Big distinction there today, let's just get it out there.
Speaker 1: Today was far better.
Speaker 3: Yes, yessively improved, So, uh, you know, just add to
Speaker 3: the effects.
Speaker 2: Well, while we're on the coverage, you know what, Tron
Speaker 2: what what's uh? What's been getting at you? Is it?
Speaker 2: Has it been the limited uh amount of coverage in
Speaker 2: the morning?
Speaker 3: Uh? Well, the group were awful straight up they were
Speaker 3: were terrible. It was a disgrace. I gotta I gotta
Speaker 3: turn the gas down here, guys, it's getting there. We
Speaker 3: get it's getting a little bit too too much natural gascon. Yeah,
Speaker 3: the future groups were just not good at all. Uh,
Speaker 3: the fact that nobody made the cut and I don't
Speaker 3: think anybody made the cut in either one of the
Speaker 3: future groups today in.
Speaker 2: The morning, only only Luck maybe Curtis Luck did, Yeah,
Speaker 2: he did.
Speaker 1: I think they were a good combined forty some over
Speaker 1: par today.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's that's insane. You know, it's a miscarriage
Speaker 3: of justice right there.
Speaker 2: I think obviously the situation that's a fault is that,
Speaker 2: you know, there's just a lack of coverage in the morning.
Speaker 2: But you know, the future groups, it's pretty clear you
Speaker 2: got to win a Masters to be in a feature group,
Speaker 2: So you know, Rory just needs to play better.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well all right, so here's the thing. Do they
Speaker 3: need to do a featured hole on like two and three?
Speaker 3: Like those are two good holes?
Speaker 1: That would be awesome, that would be like.
Speaker 3: Those are two great holes.
Speaker 1: Great holes. Yeah, I would, I mean I would enjoy
Speaker 1: watching those so much more than eleven. Eleven is kind
Speaker 1: of a boring hole to watch, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Except what.
Speaker 3: Has just straight up Hubris and tries to get after
Speaker 3: a flag.
Speaker 1: Although the shot John rom hit on eleven today, I
Speaker 1: don't know if you guys saw that was just absolute Stones.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just in general is the absolute Stones. He's
Speaker 2: missed a lot of short putts and he's still right there.
Speaker 3: So he works the wall both ways, I mean just
Speaker 3: like without abandoned, like I've seen him work it, just
Speaker 3: a gnarly draw off the trees and and he hits
Speaker 3: that low stinging cut that makes me fully erect.
Speaker 1: And that low snap hoook. I'm fifteen, so.
Speaker 3: I didn't see that one. The power went out today too,
Speaker 3: so I didn't. I'm not a great person to talk
Speaker 3: to about the uh about the coverage today just because
Speaker 3: I missed the first hour of coverage.
Speaker 1: So that's it was truly delightful today to watch so
Speaker 1: much so there was.
Speaker 3: No like SDP soliloquy at the beginning.
Speaker 1: I think they got pretty into it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just like a couple of minutes. It
Speaker 2: wasn't It wasn't lengthy like yesterday.
Speaker 1: I mean yesterday yesterday they got to go through all
Speaker 1: the opening ceremony stuff and they gotta there's obviously an
Speaker 1: understandably some some arnie stuff to go through and whatever.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's hard to separate, like, you know,
Speaker 1: how into it the three of us are and the
Speaker 1: people who listened to this podcast are with.
Speaker 3: I get that.
Speaker 1: It's hard to separate that with the people who watch
Speaker 1: golf once year and you know, but here's the thing.
Speaker 3: So, and this is why I got after really Payne
Speaker 3: on Twitter and not ESPN, because I felt like a
Speaker 3: lot of that was mandated by Augusta and then you know,
Speaker 3: the narrative and kind of uh, just just fluffing the
Speaker 3: Augusta narrative and fluffing the Augusta story, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think that's kind of one of
Speaker 1: the traditions unlike any other though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I saw that. I mean, it's it's
Speaker 2: it is what it is, but it's what has propped
Speaker 2: up the tournament and why you know, everybody gets so
Speaker 2: excited about the tournament.
Speaker 3: So but it seems like there's some sort of disconnect
Speaker 3: between when I hear something like, oh, we want to
Speaker 3: we want to televise every shot of every player of
Speaker 3: the tournament and they have the capability to show a
Speaker 3: lot more then they've been showing this week, and like
Speaker 3: the amen corner, Like, props to that team because that's
Speaker 3: been a lifesaver this week.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been super good, has.
Speaker 3: Been you know, like as soon as the non feature
Speaker 3: group finally gets stay in corner, then he got him
Speaker 3: for pretty much the rest of the round.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the only the only problem is when you
Speaker 1: get that perfect storm of like featured groups are also
Speaker 1: an amen corner, and it's just like, oh, it's just brutal.
Speaker 1: Like today, I flipped it on. I think I texted
Speaker 1: Utron after this, but I flipped it on and Coucher
Speaker 1: was the first person that I see play thirteen and
Speaker 1: the first the first thing I see is him making
Speaker 1: a birdie putt, and the first words I hear from
Speaker 1: the announcers are like, you know, oh, so good to
Speaker 1: see him lay up and make birdie. And now he
Speaker 1: that gets into just just seventy six shots off the
Speaker 1: lead now, like.
Speaker 3: Well, so, so Coucher is paired with the Nick grib tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Right, Coocher is lurking. He's he's got a big Saturday
Speaker 2: Saturday showdown. You know, I wanted to touch on it later,
Speaker 2: but we're here now. So Tron, what's gonna happen tomorrow?
Speaker 3: He's gonna get vaporized the sea.
Speaker 1: I mean, it seems like the conditions kind of favor
Speaker 1: him though.
Speaker 2: The winds breaking, it's gonna be. It's gonna be firm, fast,
Speaker 2: no wind tomorrow.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be firm, I think it is.
Speaker 2: It's been really windy last couple of days. They're gonna
Speaker 2: they're gonna they're gonna ramp that thing up tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but the fairways are still gonna be a little
Speaker 3: bit soggy. Nobody's gonna be getting.
Speaker 1: I think it's more the greens are green.
Speaker 2: They're gonna be tough. Pins too, They're gonna those those
Speaker 2: pins are gonna be They're gonna be nasty. It's gonna
Speaker 2: be it's not gonna be just about hitting the faraway.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be hitting it on the right side of
Speaker 2: the pharaway. See at the right angle.
Speaker 3: Well, so that are with maybe angles. God, this guy
Speaker 3: just beats off to with an angles. He's like he's
Speaker 3: like a geometry uh geometry fiend. But all right, So
Speaker 3: so here's the deal. So I think it comes back
Speaker 3: to our boys in the fore play pod wanting this
Speaker 3: to play out like a US Open. And that's not why.
Speaker 3: That's not why the Masters just been a great tournament
Speaker 3: to watch over the years. Is I don't want to
Speaker 3: see these guys shoot seventy one and grind their tits off,
Speaker 3: like I want to see birdies on thirteen and fifteen
Speaker 3: and you know, maybe one on twelve and maybe one
Speaker 3: on sixteen like like that I don't like seeing. I
Speaker 3: want to see somebody shoot a Saturday sixty five and
Speaker 3: make a charge. Yeah, I mean there's no really just
Speaker 3: kind of girding the coins.
Speaker 2: The wind. The wind is what is causing that. I mean,
Speaker 2: when you got twenty five on our wind on a
Speaker 2: course that's ration up like the way it is, it's
Speaker 2: gonna be just But.
Speaker 3: You said they're gonna talk the pins tomorrow. Yeah, but no,
Speaker 3: put the pins in the Saturday spots where.
Speaker 2: They're twenty twenty five mile an hour wind is what
Speaker 2: is causing all the all the scoring trouble, Like that's
Speaker 2: like the hardest ship to play in in the.
Speaker 3: Wa But you're telling me that the two spots that
Speaker 3: they put the pin on, was that a different Friday
Speaker 3: pin on fifteen today than it normally is.
Speaker 1: I don't fink the pin's been I feelskably, isn't it
Speaker 1: the Sunday pin where it was accessible location on fifteen
Speaker 1: either day.
Speaker 2: That that was really accessible. It was in the back
Speaker 2: like if you're going to hit a if you're hitting
Speaker 2: in with like a going for and two. The problem
Speaker 2: is it is going into a north wind, so you're
Speaker 2: playing into twenty five million hour wind, Like the balls
Speaker 2: are just not going anywhere. It's five hundred and thirty
Speaker 2: yard part. But that back pin is the most successible
Speaker 2: pin to be coming in with all that time.
Speaker 3: I disagree, If I disagree. If it's into the wind,
Speaker 3: it's a much more that's a much harder pin to
Speaker 3: get at. Why if go are laying up.
Speaker 2: If they're laying but if you're going for a par
Speaker 2: five and two and you're hitting a high three wood
Speaker 2: or a long iron, you want the pin.
Speaker 3: Back green that sloped back to front.
Speaker 2: I mean that's when you're hitting it over water, you
Speaker 2: need as much green as you can get to stop
Speaker 2: the ball.
Speaker 3: So when you put the dictator hit it in the
Speaker 3: back water today on sixteen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he had a bad shot fifteen you.
Speaker 3: No, but on like under the water on.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, gotcha. I feel like that is like one
Speaker 1: of the most underrated, Like that's one of the things
Speaker 1: when you go to the course in person that blew
Speaker 1: me away the first time was how in play that
Speaker 1: backwater seems to be, especially like when it gets firm
Speaker 1: and the balls are bouncing on the green or you
Speaker 1: catch it downslope or something like, it's just crazy. Nobody
Speaker 1: ever thinks about that backwater, but it's it's always cool
Speaker 1: to see a couple of balls going there.
Speaker 3: I think they need to shave it all the way down,
Speaker 3: like they've got that little passure rough in there. Just
Speaker 3: shave it all the way down.
Speaker 1: It's just well goes away from you though. If you're
Speaker 1: back there, like it's just so hard.
Speaker 2: You just said you wanted to see more birdies and
Speaker 2: eagles and sixty fives, and then he just said, you know,
Speaker 2: you need to shave it down.
Speaker 4: So that's the If they made fifteen green go all
Speaker 4: the way back to the pond on sixteen, then it
Speaker 4: would be like guys putting it from like dropping it
Speaker 4: and then putting it like seventy yards like that would
Speaker 4: be awesome.
Speaker 1: Too, but goes Tron goes to England. Once that is
Speaker 1: seventy yard putts.
Speaker 3: You could get a three or a four going, but
Speaker 3: then you can get in like an eleven or twelve
Speaker 3: going to like it'd be both into the spectrum or
Speaker 3: a nine. Yeah, over nine, I think I think we've
Speaker 3: already got the nine going.
Speaker 2: All right, So uh, let's talk about the guys at
Speaker 2: the top. We got uh, we got the rictator. We've
Speaker 2: got Thomas Peters, my boy, so good my line?
Speaker 1: I U, I don't think you've met anybody who doesn't
Speaker 1: like Thomas Peters. What is not to like?
Speaker 2: We've got We've got Charlie Hoffman, you know, Gary Busey, quasi,
Speaker 2: look like we've got uh, and then we've got uh,
Speaker 2: who's the last one? Uh, Sergio? Ye, So we got
Speaker 2: none of them. None of them are major winners. Who
Speaker 2: who do you guys like out of those four to
Speaker 2: get their first major championship if you're gonna get one
Speaker 2: of them, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean Ricky, I guess just Ricky seems like kind
Speaker 1: of he's he's had the most recent, you know, the
Speaker 1: most recent proof that he can kind of get it done.
Speaker 1: Peters you know, remains to be seen what we can
Speaker 1: expect from him on the weekend, Sergio. There's a pretty
Speaker 1: good body of evidence.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: What might have I'm telling you, I'm not rooting angry.
Speaker 3: I'm not rude Oliver west Wood always no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: Not at all. Let me finish, Let me finish. I'm
Speaker 1: not riding as hard as you, because it would be
Speaker 1: condescending to say that I was. But I'm so in
Speaker 1: for a Sergio win. I would absolutely likely.
Speaker 3: It's Sev's birthday on Sunday.
Speaker 1: Sunday, that's gonna be that.
Speaker 3: That was Beaten Baker once. Every Spanish player ever to
Speaker 3: be Sev. He's like, it doesn't even remind you of Sev.
Speaker 3: It's like it's like every black person ever reminds you
Speaker 3: of Tiger, like like every every Asian guy ever reminds
Speaker 3: you of like Jumbo Zaki.
Speaker 1: There were two of the worst takes from the broadcast
Speaker 1: thus far were and they both involved my boy John
Speaker 1: Rahm were uh one Faldo saying that rom was his
Speaker 1: dark horse pick, when I believe he was the fifth best,
Speaker 1: fifth highest.
Speaker 2: That that was ship knucks boy too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but to call him a dark horse pick that's
Speaker 1: what ship knucks stupid. And number two was the one
Speaker 1: tron I think you pointed out was Ian Baker Finch saying,
Speaker 1: you know, doesn't Rob's game remind you of Sevy? And
Speaker 1: or can you name all the ways of something like?
Speaker 1: Can you think of all the ways his game reminds
Speaker 1: you of Sevy? It's like no, literally, like literally, I
Speaker 1: can't think of.
Speaker 3: What literally one way Ramsey today said that that ro
Speaker 3: Rob reminds him of the thumb, like just somebody's thumb.
Speaker 3: He kind of as I'm just saying, but and then
Speaker 3: he said he couldn't. He looks like somebody, but he
Speaker 3: couldn't put his finger on it. Something else.
Speaker 1: Well, So, of of those four, I mean, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: going to Ricky, what do you guys? What are you guys?
Speaker 2: Like? Who do you? Who do you got? Tron?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 3: I've been big on the Dictator all week. I think, Uh,
Speaker 3: he's got that look in his eyes. His shot shape,
Speaker 3: I don't. I mean, I feel like he's kind of
Speaker 3: hitting the fade off the t now, but his shot
Speaker 3: shape irons. I feel like he hits kind of a
Speaker 3: preferred drunk. But I'm going none of the above I'm going.
Speaker 1: With I think I'm going none of the above as well,
Speaker 1: you're going with the Mick rib, You're going with Phil.
Speaker 1: I can tell, oh, definitely good to Phil.
Speaker 3: That didn't get on your face.
Speaker 1: It's not a video podcast, but.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, yeah, I don't know. I got I like
Speaker 2: my boy Peters, but I'm uh, we'll see what he's
Speaker 2: got on the weekend. I think he's got like.
Speaker 1: Just the fact that like he could have he could
Speaker 1: have absolutely just packed up and gone home after what
Speaker 1: did he shoot forty well, I.
Speaker 2: Mean he had even part he said he was uh,
Speaker 2: he was five under through ten and then.
Speaker 1: He yeah, even just to play the last eight and
Speaker 1: five over. I mean any like it he could have.
Speaker 1: He could have quickly become the forgotten man and nobody
Speaker 1: would have blamed him. And to come back and like
Speaker 1: do that today was awesome. So cool.
Speaker 2: He's he's got games. I kind of want Charlie Hoffman
Speaker 2: to like win, just so people on the internet stop
Speaker 2: acting like he can't win a golf tournament.
Speaker 1: And he's won. He's a very good player.
Speaker 3: Here's here's here's a Charlie Hoffman take. So remember the
Speaker 3: heritage a few years ago when it got like mega windy,
Speaker 3: but he was leading through the wind. Yeah, and then
Speaker 3: like I think I think Westwood ended up winning or
Speaker 3: not Westwood, Sorry sorry DJ McDowell ended up winning, but
Speaker 3: it was like it was crazy windy the whole time.
Speaker 3: But like Hoffman shipped down his leg on Saturday, but
Speaker 3: I neils go to bed, guys. I feel like Hoffman
Speaker 3: kind of got his bed wedding out of the way
Speaker 3: today and he can kind of go back to being
Speaker 3: just kind of playing golf tomorrow, whereas instead of my
Speaker 3: take was he was gonna he was gonna shoot his
Speaker 3: pants tomorrow, but now he doesn't really. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 3: he's sleeping on a lead, but he shot seventy five
Speaker 3: or six today. He's just kind of, you know, he's
Speaker 3: just doing his thing.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 3: He's just kind of another another week now, you know.
Speaker 2: I think every every golfer, like very rarely does someone
Speaker 2: win a tournament where they just blow the doors off
Speaker 2: all week long. And you always have one bad stretch
Speaker 2: of golf within your tournament, and I think it's how
Speaker 2: you deal with and respond to that bad stretch. It's like,
Speaker 2: did Thomas Peters get his one bad stretch out on
Speaker 2: Thursday afternoon. But it'll be interesting to see. I don't
Speaker 2: I think Hoffman. I think the wind really favors a
Speaker 2: guy like Hoffman because he's such a good ball striker.
Speaker 2: I think when the wind dies, you're going to see
Speaker 2: some of these other guys that are a little bit
Speaker 2: further back that aren't. You know, you look at the
Speaker 2: leaderboard's staffed with ball strikers, but you know, you look
Speaker 2: at a guy that survived. I think somebody that's flying
Speaker 2: like so under the radar is Ryan Moore, h who's
Speaker 2: just like sitting there at one under Like I mean,
Speaker 2: William mcgertz been just unbelievable, which.
Speaker 3: All right, So buddy of mine said today, he said,
Speaker 3: if if you had a bet on anybody, including the
Speaker 3: odds to win it, just with the odds right now
Speaker 3: he had been on Justin Rose.
Speaker 1: That's that's kind of what I was thinking. Man, That's
Speaker 1: what I was thinking too. He's just so good, like
Speaker 1: he's just I don't know why, I just can't get
Speaker 1: excited about watching him. He's got every like, he's got
Speaker 1: every reason to just be a superstar, and I just
Speaker 1: can't get just can't get pumped when I watch him.
Speaker 1: But like he hit if you like he was kind
Speaker 1: of I don't know, the not the flashiest shot in
Speaker 1: the world, but the shot he hit into nine today
Speaker 1: was like just so smart and sexy. After watching everybody
Speaker 1: just get mutumboed from that green and just not being
Speaker 1: able to control the spin and completely just zipping it
Speaker 1: back down the hill, Rose just like the perfect spot,
Speaker 1: perfect amount of spin, just snuggles it up in there
Speaker 1: to like three feet and like a couple of the
Speaker 1: up and downs he made, or just like he's just
Speaker 1: so tidy, like he.
Speaker 2: I think he's finished runner up there twice, but with
Speaker 2: his under par total, like I think last year was
Speaker 2: like fourteen under or whatever, his under par total would
Speaker 2: have won like all but like four or five Masters,
Speaker 2: and both times that he's fit sh runner up. So
Speaker 2: it's it's kind of crazy how you look at that
Speaker 2: guy and he doesn't have any wins. It just shows
Speaker 2: how hard it is to win one of these things.
Speaker 2: I guess who you think about.
Speaker 3: How many how many awkward web shots this course demands,
Speaker 3: and you think he'd struggle here, but he's like it
Speaker 3: like brings out the best of them. Just crazy because
Speaker 3: I feel like he's always the one that's flubbing those
Speaker 3: sixty yard pitches, you know. Yeah, but he seems to
Speaker 3: really he seems to really enjoy this place. But I mean,
Speaker 3: like Kimer, I mean Kymer going when he shot seventy
Speaker 3: eight yesterday and damn Nier was playing bogey golf on
Speaker 3: the back nine and then comes back and shoots sixty
Speaker 3: eight today, Like that's that's insane.
Speaker 2: What who does speak?
Speaker 1: Who?
Speaker 3: I mean speed is we.
Speaker 1: Need to we need to dedicate about fifteen minutes speed here.
Speaker 1: I feel like, I mean everybody on the on the
Speaker 1: McRib like what Speef has. Like I just am so
Speaker 1: blown away by Speef.
Speaker 3: Rian Rory grinded his ass off. He hasn't had the
Speaker 3: driver either day. He's putted relatively well. He's missed a
Speaker 3: couple short ones. He got boned up by the flagstick
Speaker 3: today on eighteen. But like, I don't know, I feel
Speaker 3: like he's just years ago or three years ago, would
Speaker 3: have would have just bailed in and kind of probably
Speaker 3: pissed away another three or four shots and been been
Speaker 3: at plus five or plus six and then played decent
Speaker 3: one all on Saturday and then gone out and shot
Speaker 3: sixty six on Sunday and back door top ten where
Speaker 3: now a back door top ten round on Sunday gets
Speaker 3: him actually close to the lead much less if he
Speaker 3: plays a lot on Saturday. He's right, he's right in
Speaker 3: the mix.
Speaker 1: This is this is how I feel about Speef, like
Speaker 1: I like the exactly everything you just said is.
Speaker 2: How I feel about Yeah, he made a nine.
Speaker 1: He made a nine, and he's he's right there, he's
Speaker 1: four shots off the lead.
Speaker 3: I mean he's like just so man'.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. The weather conditions favorite guy like
Speaker 2: spief to like he the fact.
Speaker 3: That's why I'm disappointed he hasn't he hasn't stepped up more.
Speaker 2: No, I'm saying the weekend weather, the nice weather should favored.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 1: Yes, without a quad, he'd be tied for the lead.
Speaker 2: Yeah, ball, that's saying.
Speaker 3: Going into the weekend, he doesn't have an advantage. Andy,
Speaker 3: why do you think he has an advantage? He literally,
Speaker 3: he literally doesn't hit.
Speaker 1: He doesn't type the scoring record, he doesn't, he doesn't.
Speaker 2: He doesn't hit the ball as good as these guys
Speaker 2: like you know, like surgery, Like when you're in the wind,
Speaker 2: what happens is the wind, strong winds magnify misses. So
Speaker 2: if you're not exactly on point with your shots, they
Speaker 2: go further and further offline.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but everybody's listening greens and it's a matter of
Speaker 3: getting up and down.
Speaker 2: That's important. But guys like you know, like Sergio is
Speaker 2: still out there hitting thirteen fourteen greens regardless. Like you know,
Speaker 2: like ball striking is greater and putting is diminished because
Speaker 2: the wind adds an element of it, you know, like
Speaker 2: it's harder for speak to can twenty five footers in
Speaker 2: a twenty mile hour wind. So when you mark Brody
Speaker 2: on my ass, it's but no, it's just a it's true,
Speaker 2: like the weather is favored guys that are high on ballster.
Speaker 2: You look at the leaderboard and it tells the story.
Speaker 2: The fact that Spith is right there with a nine
Speaker 2: and he you know, he hasn't even played his best
Speaker 2: golf yet. That's I mean, he's a guy that obviously
Speaker 2: is sitting there at even par. I mean, anybody that's
Speaker 2: been impressed with Rory, you have to be almost doubly
Speaker 2: impressed with speed.
Speaker 1: I just I don't know. I think Rory has I
Speaker 1: kind of said this before the round, and I'm kind
Speaker 1: of sticking to it that like I just hot take
Speaker 1: or not. I don't think he's going to be a
Speaker 1: factor this weekend, and he just hit shot.
Speaker 3: I think tomorrow is a career defining day.
Speaker 1: Actually, since he's playing with I feel like three hundred
Speaker 1: and sixty four days ago was a defining day also,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like when he played he
Speaker 1: like every on Saturday. No, no, no, when he was
Speaker 1: paired to Speet on Saturday, just got his doors blown off.
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I.
Speaker 3: Mean Seeth Speet, that was that was non sporting.
Speaker 1: What are you talking about?
Speaker 3: He was taking like four minutes over every shot.
Speaker 1: It was brutal conditions.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he was still breaking the rules.
Speaker 1: You're saying they should have gand.
Speaker 3: I think they should Gwanda, I think they should ut.
Speaker 3: Even before so, I thought it was disgusting. I thought
Speaker 3: it was unsporting.
Speaker 2: On Sportsman Life, who are you most disappointed by in
Speaker 2: the first two rounds?
Speaker 3: You know who I'm most disappointed by? Your boy? Toto
Speaker 3: was too big for him, told you.
Speaker 2: Man, he's like an eighteen year old from from Latin America.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Toto couldn't really get anything going this week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's sad, but another man, another man. How about
Speaker 2: Stu has dad?
Speaker 1: Awesome?
Speaker 3: Oh, I can't can't say enough good things? Yeah, DJ,
Speaker 3: how about your boy Brian Stewart making the cut big time?
Speaker 3: How about how about that whole group?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Larry Mice, Larry Mies made the cut, That group
Speaker 2: has dad.
Speaker 3: Here are a.
Speaker 1: Couple of people who Here are a couple of people
Speaker 1: who not make the cut. And keep it through the
Speaker 1: perspective of the fact that Larry Mace did make the cut.
Speaker 1: Danny Willett, Jim Furick, Zach Johnson, Hendrik Stenson, Alex Norin,
Speaker 1: Bubba Watson, Henry Patrick, Patrick Reid, Michael Woodland, Tyrol Hatton,
Speaker 1: I think Tyl Tyrel Hatton. I mean, I don't know
Speaker 1: that I had the highest hopes, but he might be.
Speaker 1: He's on my most disappointing list.
Speaker 3: Tyrol Shadow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was that was brutal.
Speaker 2: He hadn't finished outside like the top ten and in
Speaker 2: like six eight weeks and then just comes to augustin
Speaker 2: just very he just pukes all over himself.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Not good, not good. You know who I'm disappointed in, uh,
Speaker 1: but optimistic about is uh. Louis just complete, completely rejected
Speaker 1: yesterday and then fought back today and uh got it
Speaker 1: back to four over.
Speaker 2: I feel like he does that. He did that last
Speaker 2: year too. He had one terrible round. He was like
Speaker 2: five over after six or four over after six.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna pull up the tea times for tomorrow. This
Speaker 3: is there's some like good interesting. Yeah, So so day
Speaker 3: is Day playing with Knox?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: God, I hope I hope Day with draws like do
Speaker 3: to like lack of lack of liquidity or something. All right,
Speaker 3: Burger Grayce, that's a big dick. Uh, let's see you
Speaker 3: got Grio and Thomas. That's savory, stricer, Strickert, Hazen. Let's
Speaker 3: just sign me up like that's one of those rounds
Speaker 3: that you go out early, follow them for the first nine,
Speaker 3: and then come back and follow the leaders for eighteen.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you what the tea time of the
Speaker 2: day is. Mark Leishman versus Lee Westwood?
Speaker 1: How many shots you want?
Speaker 2: DJ and I have a twenty dollars bet on this
Speaker 2: on these two, on who performs better at the Masters.
Speaker 3: I feel like a divorced parent caught in the middle
Speaker 3: because I like both these guys.
Speaker 2: It's you know, Lee Westwood at Augusta is just so solid.
Speaker 2: He had a rough clothes to today's round, but I
Speaker 2: think he's right there. I think he's a guy that can.
Speaker 3: Make a commentator term tragic or that's that's that's very
Speaker 3: unfortunate and something after he missed them, missed the short
Speaker 3: one on seventeen or eighteen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's weird. He's usually right, He's usually rock solid.
Speaker 2: Bit I heard another announcer talking about his putting stroke
Speaker 2: and they're like, see that right hand, how it gets involved.
Speaker 2: It's a very unreliable way to put.
Speaker 3: That's not Yeah, yeah that was. He was just shitting
Speaker 3: all over them.
Speaker 1: I feel like that was pretty I feel like I
Speaker 1: was pretty classy. I feel like I was pretty classy
Speaker 1: about the hockey sticks today. By the way, just the
Speaker 1: fact that the fact that Westwood and Leishman are tied
Speaker 1: after thirty six is like, you can just I can
Speaker 1: let you buy out of the bet for nineteen right
Speaker 1: now if you want.
Speaker 5: So.
Speaker 1: I feel like people about like you want Westwood versus
Speaker 1: Leishman over the final two rounds, Like.
Speaker 3: There's no way I'm sticking by going straight up the
Speaker 3: rest of the tournament. Weshman versus Westwood for twenty Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: It was the bet that we had. We made the
Speaker 2: bet on Wednesday. Okay, so you know I'm sticking with
Speaker 2: my man.
Speaker 1: There's no way I spent I already spent the money.
Speaker 3: I feel like all the pairings for the rest of
Speaker 3: the time are probably there are ten times better than
Speaker 3: the pairings for the first two rounds. Like it's like
Speaker 3: the guys that were meant to be paired together are
Speaker 3: paired together, like like the El's Duffner pairing, Like those
Speaker 3: guys are gonna hit more greens and miss more putts
Speaker 3: men any pairing in the history of the Masters. Matsuyama,
Speaker 3: Kimer Like that's awesome. Coocher, McElroy, Speth, Michelson Scott Like
Speaker 3: this is like rom and couples, Like couples are just
Speaker 3: gonna be asking rom about Spanish chicks the whole time.
Speaker 3: Like there's so many good groupings tomorrow there's no like
Speaker 3: there's no uh, who is this? Who was the Swedish
Speaker 3: guy a few years back?
Speaker 1: Peter Hansen?
Speaker 3: Peter Hansen Like, hello, I'm I'm Peter Hanson. To just
Speaker 3: like put a put a damper on the proceedings. You know,
Speaker 3: I haven't been this excited for a Saturday of the Master.
Speaker 2: What about Speth Michaelson. So I'm saying, like, no, where,
Speaker 2: where's the DJ's head going to be with that one?
Speaker 5: Me?
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, man, I don't know. I mean, my my
Speaker 1: heart is picking Phil this week. But like he made
Speaker 1: some sloppy mistakes coming in.
Speaker 3: Man. He said he was trying to win the tournament though,
Speaker 3: or you just want to win, trying to stack up
Speaker 3: a bunch of presses.
Speaker 1: And I think, honestly, I think he's uh, I think
Speaker 1: he's getting ready for Aaron Hills. I think he's he's
Speaker 1: trying to get some reps for Aaron Hills.
Speaker 3: He's hitting, he's hitting the shots demanded of of Dana
Speaker 3: Herdson and uh Michael Fryer, Michael herds And and Dana
Speaker 3: fry at Augusta. He's taking the same shots and just
Speaker 3: practicing in Augusta.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Uh yeah, I mean, I don't know that
Speaker 1: the miss long on sixteen was like not good, hard,
Speaker 1: like just a brutal spot to get up and down.
Speaker 1: Missing in the bunker on seventeen was bad. I think
Speaker 1: he only had like one forty or something. It's I
Speaker 1: don't know, not good.
Speaker 3: All rightyeah, all right, So who do you have tomorrow?
Speaker 3: Speed or Michelson speed? Wait?
Speaker 1: How many three?
Speaker 3: Wow? Okay?
Speaker 1: Sixty seven seventy okay, So they're.
Speaker 3: Both probably near the lead tomorrow then or at or leading.
Speaker 1: Uh speed for sure? Yeah, I mean, like I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to go overboard on this,
Speaker 1: but like that was like so impressive today. I think
Speaker 1: he's going to be absolutely just jacked to go out
Speaker 1: there tomorrow and put up a low number.
Speaker 3: All right, rom rom and couple.
Speaker 1: Well, and let's we got to Fred Couples for a
Speaker 1: minute here, Nicholson speed.
Speaker 3: Who do you like tomorrow?
Speaker 2: Nicholson speed speak? I mean I think he uh, he
Speaker 2: gets himself within two three shots of the lead.
Speaker 3: I think I think Nicholson ties one on tomorrow. It's
Speaker 3: a round for the ages tomorrow.
Speaker 2: I just don't think he's going to drive the ball
Speaker 2: well enough.
Speaker 1: He got a little slippery at the end.
Speaker 2: The guy, the guy doesn't he doesn't know what a
Speaker 2: swing what the swing plane is.
Speaker 3: I mean, he probably knows he's playing with the guys.
Speaker 2: That doesn't make any difference if you're my Alesox playing.
Speaker 3: All right versus couples. Can we talk about couples for
Speaker 3: a little bit.
Speaker 1: Let's please tell us first of all, you're you're sitting
Speaker 1: there with with your son just watching the namesake today?
Speaker 3: What was that?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 3: What's nice? I'm kind of Freddy's a double edged sword.
Speaker 3: I can when when Freddie Yakobsen plays well, I call
Speaker 3: him the junk man, and when Freddy Couples plays well,
Speaker 3: I call him boom boom. So it's like all good things,
Speaker 3: you know. But yeah, I think, I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 3: A couple's got a little squirrel on some of the
Speaker 3: some of the lines he was taking were a little
Speaker 3: bit over aggressive. Today I came if it was fourteen
Speaker 3: or seventeen, which seventeen I don't. I don't much care
Speaker 3: for seventeen. Fourteen's a great hole. Seventeen should be a
Speaker 3: short part four. They should bring Corn Crenshaw in Redesign
Speaker 3: it Short Part four brings to the back.
Speaker 1: I keep going back, and I keep going back and
Speaker 1: forth on this, and like, I keep wavering between I
Speaker 1: like seventeen and I don't like seventeen. And no, I
Speaker 1: think it's good. I think it's good when they have
Speaker 1: no But I think it's just like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think it's good when they have the pin on
Speaker 1: eighteen in a good spot, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like the Sunday pin on eighteen, like it's you can
Speaker 1: I feel like the pin make birdies for sure. So
Speaker 1: I feel like seventeen is like the last like big
Speaker 1: test that you got to get through and then you
Speaker 1: can make a birdie on eighteen.
Speaker 3: I feel like the pin today on eighteen should be
Speaker 3: the should be the Sday pin.
Speaker 1: It's pretty too, it's pretty close to that. I think
Speaker 1: they just move into the left.
Speaker 3: A little bit, just over the left. Yeah, you can
Speaker 3: use that sideboard on the right a little bit more
Speaker 3: today at least.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that seventeenth green's pretty sweet. I think, yeah, oh,
Speaker 2: it's awesome.
Speaker 3: It's all. That's what I'm saying. It's a great green.
Speaker 2: Just make it like you know what I like, if
Speaker 2: you hit a good drive, you get up on top
Speaker 2: of that hill. If you don't your shot, you've got
Speaker 2: that upslope. It's kind of it makes it. It's got
Speaker 2: a unique little twist there where you know, if you
Speaker 2: hit a really good driver rewarded with like a great
Speaker 2: you know shot in versus like an average driver. If
Speaker 2: you lay back, you get that upslope, which makes that
Speaker 2: shot kind of tough.
Speaker 1: I feel like you're also coming out thirteen, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen,
Speaker 1: which are all holes you can you can make some
Speaker 1: noise on. I don't know, I kind of like, I
Speaker 1: kind of like having a little punchback.
Speaker 3: O dohn't no man. Fourteen can get kind of gnarly
Speaker 3: with where the.
Speaker 1: Yeah the green is nasty too, yeah bunker.
Speaker 3: I think that's my only thing about about Augusta is.
Speaker 3: And I think it's probably why three has grown on
Speaker 3: me over the years too, is there's not really a
Speaker 3: truly risk reward drivable hole with how they've moved three
Speaker 3: back over the years. And then you know, it's like
Speaker 3: there needs to be something.
Speaker 1: I feel like all the part five, all the part
Speaker 1: five is going to fill that for me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and and and I'm I'm going to get absolutely
Speaker 3: roasted by people for even suggesting the changes or anything
Speaker 3: like this.
Speaker 2: So eleven eleven's gotta change, I'll tell you that much.
Speaker 3: Just eleven sucks so boring.
Speaker 2: Now it's tight.
Speaker 3: Seven and eleven are probably the two worst holes in
Speaker 3: the course.
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, eleven, they just freaked out because everybody was
Speaker 2: hitting wedges in you know, it's but.
Speaker 3: That was better. It just just keep tucking the pin
Speaker 3: over to the left to make the green fastest ship.
Speaker 1: And then I do love I love eleven when I
Speaker 1: just I don't know what you'd have to do if
Speaker 1: you have to just like if you have to just
Speaker 1: shorten it by like twenty yards or something. But like
Speaker 1: seeing guys come into that green and like seeing them
Speaker 1: kind of like play to the right guy take the
Speaker 1: yeah and take it on, and like seeing balls go
Speaker 1: up to the water and like that gets cool. But
Speaker 1: it's just like I don't know if it's a little
Speaker 1: too long or a little too tight, or maybe it's
Speaker 1: just a little too soft this week or something. I
Speaker 1: don't know, like this is too much.
Speaker 3: And then they added all the trees down the right,
Speaker 3: and then yeah, it's basically become like and I guess
Speaker 3: it goes back to that. I think it was Hogan
Speaker 3: or somebody where it was like, yeah, if you hit
Speaker 3: the green on eleven, you were aiming twenty yards too
Speaker 3: far back, but right, you know, I don't know. I
Speaker 3: just I feel like at the least a hole should
Speaker 3: should dictate trying to hit the green, you know, trying
Speaker 3: the and all the bailouts to the right just kind
Speaker 3: of pissed me off.
Speaker 1: Yeah, depending where the depending where the pin is, that
Speaker 1: chip can get spicy though, which is fun.
Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing if you if you put the
Speaker 3: pin front right, that's the that's the spiciest chip on
Speaker 3: the course.
Speaker 2: Right then, Well, I think I think what people are?
Speaker 2: They do theirs? They just hedge their best.
Speaker 6: It's like, okay, if I make a five here, it's
Speaker 6: not the biggest deal. Like I just can't make a
Speaker 6: six or seven. So you if you bail right, you
Speaker 6: still have a chance at four and you take all
Speaker 6: the big the big number out of play.
Speaker 1: Really, what do you think the wind has made twelve
Speaker 1: so good this week?
Speaker 2: What do you think the uh this cutoff right now
Speaker 2: is for a guy that can win? Do you think
Speaker 2: like one over two?
Speaker 3: Over two?
Speaker 1: So the people at two are Schwarzel, Matsiyama and Kimer
Speaker 1: Hot Charles. I don't know. I could see I could
Speaker 1: see Matsuyama just taking it deep on the weekend. Bunch
Speaker 1: of people at three, tons of people, Ernie Duffner, Westwood,
Speaker 1: Leashman has Jimmy Walker, Rusty Henley, your boy, Brendan's steal b.
Speaker 7: Steward outside of Stewart and and uh, Henley and Casey
Speaker 7: could go love.
Speaker 3: Nobody else's nobody else is making a run on the group.
Speaker 2: I can see. I can see Casey making a run.
Speaker 2: You two.
Speaker 3: And Kepka might stink.
Speaker 2: Though, who's stunk the most?
Speaker 3: Well? I think the question is who doesn't stink? Uh?
Speaker 5: I mean besides J d J Speak and you know
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go and I would say speak.
Speaker 1: DJ and Rom are the only players that don't stink.
Speaker 2: Peters Peters hasn't hasn't stunk, has Yeah, he hasn't stuck.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: I think I think Willie McGirt, dirt McGirt hasn't stung.
Speaker 3: I'm not talking about the masters, I'm talking about like
Speaker 3: it in general. Like but here's the thing. If everybody stinks,
Speaker 3: then does anybody stink?
Speaker 2: Nobody thinks? Then exactly nobody sinks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is getting pretty conceptual.
Speaker 3: It's a philosophical questions.
Speaker 2: Can cut out bookmarking it bookmark all right, So I'm
Speaker 2: gonna hit you guys both, just rapid fire answer who
Speaker 2: wins this these matchups? All right? Justin Rose, Adam Scott Rose, Scott,
Speaker 2: Peter's Fowler.
Speaker 3: Oh man, I'm.
Speaker 1: Gonna say Peters, I loved watching him today.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say foul. I think I think Peters is
Speaker 3: he's still marinating a little bit.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, we're gonna go with Coucher, McElroy, DJ,
Speaker 2: please pick Coocher.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, oh man, this is one we're talking about.
Speaker 1: One round of golf, one round of golf.
Speaker 3: Only do it, don't do it? Actually?
Speaker 2: Do it?
Speaker 3: Do it? DJ.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say McElroy only because it's only because it's Saturday,
Speaker 1: it's Sunday. He's making a big backdoor charge.
Speaker 3: They both would be wait wait wait no, all right,
Speaker 3: all right, okay, So you're saying Coucher ships his pants
Speaker 3: on Saturdays.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, if Coocher is starting the day five back
Speaker 1: on Sunday, he's going out at at one in the
Speaker 1: afternoon and putting up in sixty seven.
Speaker 3: But if he's going back in the if he's going
Speaker 3: out in the lead, yeah, on Saturday he's shooting seventy seven, right.
Speaker 1: Right, But tomorrow, with like a chance to put himself
Speaker 1: in position, I don't think he's gonna do it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, obviously, Michael.
Speaker 2: Here's a guy you know, he had top ten last year.
Speaker 2: Soren Kelson and Charlie.
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm on team. I'm on team Big Dane her
Speaker 3: Little Dane Kelton in short though, Yeah, Kelton, I'm thinking
Speaker 3: Keltsondy quivocally well story.
Speaker 1: And what about Sergia, Sergio and Charlie Hoffman.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Sergio, Charlie.
Speaker 1: I'm taking. I don't know, I don't think. I don't
Speaker 1: think I would say Charlie Hoffman. I don't think he's
Speaker 1: gonna get blown away tomorrow.
Speaker 3: I think he's blown away. But I think I think
Speaker 3: Sergio is can shoot a shoot a historically relevant round.
Speaker 2: All right, who's uh, who's your pick to win?
Speaker 1: Man? I'm I'm going to speak all the way back
Speaker 1: from back from the Dead Lazarus.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna shock the world. Richard Flower blooms.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's that's shocking. He's time for the lead.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I think I think I think Richard
Speaker 3: Flower does it. I think he's the throne. And then
Speaker 3: and then Golf Digest just like it's like a super nova,
Speaker 3: a Golf Digest headquarters and they just cream themselves.
Speaker 1: The super nova would be uh imploding got itself. It'd
Speaker 1: be a dead star.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. Oh, they just can't win, and
Speaker 3: then they implode on themselves. Okay, because there's so much
Speaker 3: millennial content, the movement's too big.
Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna take I'm going with my boy Peters.
Speaker 2: You know I've been I've been saying master sleeper for
Speaker 2: for for months now, so I'm gonna stick with it
Speaker 2: now that he's here. So uh, let's uh, let's get
Speaker 2: you guys out on a Frida Egg tradition here of
Speaker 2: a little overrated, underrated rapidly. So we're going to start
Speaker 2: with Augustine National in general.
Speaker 1: Underrated, properly rated. Oh no, you can't do that.
Speaker 2: You can't do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't.
Speaker 3: Number two, you can number two or three fours in
Speaker 3: the world.
Speaker 1: And Andy's all about hot takes.
Speaker 3: Man, I'm gonna say it's overrated until they redo the bunker.
Speaker 2: Okay, seems a good take. That's a good take. The
Speaker 2: next one will go with Curtis Luck's apparel.
Speaker 1: I think overrated, I'm not. I know you like it.
Speaker 1: I'm out.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say underrated. I really so people have been
Speaker 3: probably seven or eight people have floated the question to
Speaker 3: me today on Twitter, what do you think about Curtis
Speaker 3: Luck and just getting hot after him? I like him.
Speaker 3: I think Austin's are exempt me hating on him from
Speaker 3: wearing outrageous shit. So I'm gonna say underrated if he
Speaker 3: has enough confidence to wear it and made the cut
Speaker 3: as an amateur, although amateur with an asterisk, I think
Speaker 3: he's I think he fucked.
Speaker 1: Can I can I challenge that very briefly and say,
Speaker 1: does this include the Operation Iraqi Freedom outfit that Adam
Speaker 1: Scott wore yesterday?
Speaker 3: What does that have to do with Chris Luck?
Speaker 1: You said, exempt from fashion?
Speaker 3: Oh no, yeah, okay, okay, uh yeah no that yeah,
Speaker 3: Adam Scott, Well, Adam Scott's a globalist, just a.
Speaker 1: Complete tannimal yesterday.
Speaker 3: He's a globalist. So he's a Swiss citizen, I think. So, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I can we can say as much bad stuff as
Speaker 3: we want about Adam I'm Scott's apparel yesterday.
Speaker 1: I just feel like that like a very very very
Speaker 1: rare miss. I feel like he's usually number one or
Speaker 1: two in the in the Fashion Power rankings.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think unique low let him down a a
Speaker 3: uniquely awful path yesterday.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll go with uh, Brian Stewart.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say over
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say underrated, because I mean, I feel like
Speaker 1: he's not rated, Like I feel like he has a
Speaker 1: lot of upside because he just hasn't been rated yet.
Speaker 1: He's a PJ Tour winner. Man, I think it was
Speaker 1: like a thirty six hole event, but you know, still he.
Speaker 3: Beat uh, he beat Andy's boy Jamie Lovemark.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Actually, I'm gonna say he's underrated. I'm gonna give him
Speaker 3: a lot of credit. I just put up his owg R.
Speaker 3: Missed a couple, he missed a few cuts, and then
Speaker 3: he went he went T sixteen at Bridgestone, and then
Speaker 3: he's been playing relatively well. He's been making a lot
Speaker 3: of cuts this year.
Speaker 1: So you know what, anyone, anyone who just kind of
Speaker 1: keeps their card and just hangs on tour for like
Speaker 1: five years whatever, like underrated. That's an underrated skill.
Speaker 3: Especially when you're especially when you're like the most nondescript
Speaker 3: guy in the world, and like al under is coming
Speaker 3: from encourse earnings. Like I think there's something to be.
Speaker 1: Said that totally agree.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: I also love last thing about Brian Stewart. I know
Speaker 1: we're doing dedicating a lot of time, but this is
Speaker 1: another one of my my things is that I love, love,
Speaker 1: love when these guys live in like places that are
Speaker 1: not tour player haven't. He lives in Michigan, Jackson, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so cool him, Leashman, strep Stricker, Troy Merritt, you.
Speaker 3: Bang this drum Non lives in Virginia Beach Like it's
Speaker 3: it's some it's some cross to bear to live in
Speaker 3: Virginia Beach, Virginia.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I don't mean that at all. I
Speaker 1: just mean it's it's awesome that when guys make decisions
Speaker 1: the way that we make decisions, which is like, yeah,
Speaker 1: my wife's family is from there, so that's where we live,
Speaker 1: not like well yeah, yeah, exactly awesome.
Speaker 2: All right. Last last overrated underrated. Ernie El's career.
Speaker 1: Drastically underrated.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say I love Big He's one of my
Speaker 3: favorite human beings, but I'm gonna I'm gonna say overrated.
Speaker 3: I think I think I think Ernie should have won
Speaker 3: eight majors.
Speaker 2: I think I think Ernie's career very similar to another
Speaker 2: man that's in the top twenty that constantly gets put
Speaker 2: on a top ten player of all time, pedestal Phil Mickelson.
Speaker 1: Man, I don't think we have enough time in the
Speaker 1: podcast to get into your hatred for this.
Speaker 2: I just I mean Ernie Els. Let's get Ernie Els
Speaker 2: made it to the top. Ernie El's made it to
Speaker 2: the top of the mountain multiple times. He won Player
Speaker 2: of the Years, he won he was the number one
Speaker 2: ranked player in the world when when Tiger was around,
Speaker 2: Phil's never done it. They've got you.
Speaker 3: Bang on Phil for not being the number one player
Speaker 3: in the world more than.
Speaker 2: He never was number one player in the world, player
Speaker 2: of the Year or won a money list. In my book,
Speaker 2: you got to be the one of the best. You
Speaker 2: have to be the best player at least once in
Speaker 2: a year to be a top ten player of all time.
Speaker 3: All right, So here's the question for you. Was Bill
Speaker 3: Russell ever the best player in the NBA?
Speaker 2: I think he won some m vps.
Speaker 3: Or was h Was Tim Duncan ever the the best player?
Speaker 2: I think he won like two or three m vps?
Speaker 3: Also, Yeah, but would you take him over anybody? Else.
Speaker 2: I think Tim Duncan was the best player in the generation.
Speaker 2: He was better than Kobe.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm not kidding anywhere with this take.
Speaker 1: Then that's a consistent take. I've heard him say that before, unprovoked.
Speaker 1: We're just watching, We're just walking around the golf course
Speaker 1: in Austin. He started talking about how Tim Duncan's the
Speaker 1: best player of all time, that of.
Speaker 2: All time, of that generation. Similar similar Phil's flash yer
Speaker 2: he says more in front of the media. But I
Speaker 2: think Ernie els was basically has the same career. I
Speaker 2: know Phil was.
Speaker 3: Never gifted a major either. I mean Ernie was.
Speaker 1: Ernie was gifted until.
Speaker 2: This week, yeah whatever, so so so all right, So
Speaker 2: so I think he's got He's got two Britishes, He's
Speaker 2: got you got two Britishes in two US Open.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Congress, Yeah, with them in mirrorfield, right.
Speaker 2: I don't know how many wins, I don't know how
Speaker 2: their wins stack up, but.
Speaker 1: It's probably pretty close.
Speaker 2: Ernie was number one in the world, Ernie was, Ernie
Speaker 2: won a moneyless, Ernie was Player of the year, same
Speaker 2: amount of majors.
Speaker 3: I do think the one thing that that helps Ernie's
Speaker 3: case is the fact that Ernie was a global player
Speaker 3: I think can be said to that where granted he
Speaker 3: had he said five point fifty for like twenty years now,
Speaker 3: being a global player isn't all that hard. But globalist,
Speaker 3: but I mean the guys, the guys played a shitload
Speaker 3: of golf all over the world for a long time
Speaker 3: and done it consistently, and like that was something at
Speaker 3: bay Hill, like somebody asked him. He came out on
Speaker 3: the putting green and he had his charity event down
Speaker 3: in Jupiter or wherever the day before, and somebody asked
Speaker 3: him if he had flown up from Jupiter or if
Speaker 3: he drove, and he had to think about it. He
Speaker 3: was like oh, he was like he was like, um,
Speaker 3: They're like, oh, big earned did you drive? You fly today?
Speaker 2: And U.
Speaker 3: I drove, you know, like it took him a little while,
Speaker 3: you know, one another like that that's powerful.
Speaker 2: Earn is apparently one of the most generous guys to
Speaker 2: younger players, giving him rides on the jet all the
Speaker 2: time as long as they supported charity outing. So you know,
Speaker 2: that's he's a good guy too.
Speaker 3: I'm I'm I'm I'm sportsman. Bernie's a sportsman.
Speaker 2: I'm on big ern and Phil being on about the
Speaker 2: same tier. There. You know, you can have your arguments
Speaker 2: either way, but I think Phil is drastically overrated in
Speaker 2: the career scope.
Speaker 3: All right, So here, all right, So going back to
Speaker 3: your original question, I think Ernie's career is probably overrated
Speaker 3: in the grand scheme of things, just because I don't
Speaker 3: think he accomplished as much as his talent warranted. But
Speaker 3: I think Michelson's career is also overrated in the grand
Speaker 3: scheme of things because I think he was capable much
Speaker 3: more as well. So that's not really a value just
Speaker 3: as it is just the sheer competitiveness of the what if?
Speaker 1: What if you include Phil's potential wins, meaning like wins
Speaker 1: he could have gotten if he was trying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but then yeah, you know what, man, I get
Speaker 3: back to that, and like, I think that's a bad
Speaker 3: take on my work because like Phil won the Houston
Speaker 3: Open one year, Like there's no way that he would
Speaker 3: have won the Houston Open, Like there's no way he
Speaker 3: was even trying to win the Houston Open. But he
Speaker 3: just won that by default because he just fell into
Speaker 3: that win.
Speaker 1: Like I think if I think, if I remember he
Speaker 1: shot like sixty two on Saturday, and then he was like,
Speaker 1: oh ship yeah, and they say he just caught a heater.
Speaker 1: And then you're like, all right, well I can probably
Speaker 1: win as well.
Speaker 3: Bank. I might as well bank one point one, yeah,
Speaker 3: and then get in with big oil and probably fuel
Speaker 3: at the next five years, you know. So all right, Andy,
Speaker 3: So you got Peters winning it, DJ, you have winning
Speaker 3: and you got.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: You know. The one matchup we didn't do is uh
Speaker 1: McGirt Moore tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Oh I'm going More.
Speaker 1: I got it, you know.
Speaker 2: I I was on McGirt on Wednesdays, but I just
Speaker 2: was on More earlier. That's a tough one. I you know,
Speaker 2: that's that's the the twosome that's going to get the
Speaker 2: least amount of airtime tomorrow that I'm the most intrigued
Speaker 2: to watch.
Speaker 1: I love watching Ryan Moore.
Speaker 2: I just hate how he like has to wiggle into
Speaker 2: his shots. You know how he does like his like
Speaker 2: shimmy before he yea, It's just.
Speaker 1: Like he's on Orthodox. Man. I love it.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Ryan Moore. I'm not going with McGirt,
Speaker 2: And I think I think the moment is going to
Speaker 2: be too big for him.
Speaker 3: McGirt, all right, what else, what else we need to cover?
Speaker 2: That's I think that's it, and think of her. We
Speaker 2: gotta keep this short so people can listen to it
Speaker 2: before the telecast.
Speaker 3: We're in an hour and five minutes.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, all right, enjoy tomorrow. Good having you
Speaker 2: guys on.
Speaker 1: Thanks man.
Speaker 3: All right,