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Speaker 1: Can't. I am six forty. You're listening to the John

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Speaker 1: a story broke that there's a video that a hiker

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Speaker 1: took the day after the New Year's Day fire in

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Speaker 1: the Palace Age. It was originally known as the Lockman fire,

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Speaker 1: early morning hours of January first, and the story is

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Speaker 1: that the La Fire Department put it out. They thought

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Speaker 1: work is done. They left the scene. Well, on January second,

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Speaker 1: a hiker took some video and that site was smoldering.

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Speaker 1: There was little white wisps of smoke going into the air.

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Speaker 1: And it's just is it another layer of incompetence? And

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Speaker 1: remember what's going to happen tomorrow and Wednesday and Thursday.

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Speaker 1: Strong Santa Ana wins, hot temperatures. When I first got

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Speaker 1: to La, the first major fires I ever saw I

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Speaker 1: remember happened I believe in late October early November. It

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Speaker 1: was the Laguna Malibu Altadena fires. This is big fire

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Speaker 1: season right now, and so we've got the big sant

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Speaker 1: city of Los Angeles. I mean, I'm some man, Karen

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Speaker 1: bass is going to stay in the country this week.

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Speaker 1: Somebody on a file a restraining order on her so

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Speaker 1: she can't leave. Well, let's get Roger bailing on. He's

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Speaker 1: the attorney for thousands of Palisades residents who are suing

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Speaker 1: everybody in sight over what happened last January seventh. Roger,

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Speaker 1: how are you good?

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Speaker 2: John? How are you doing good? So?

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Speaker 1: Did your investigative team get this video? How where this

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Speaker 1: do you come from?

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Speaker 2: Well, we've known about this smoldering for months, and as

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Speaker 2: you may remember, back on the eighth of October, the

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Speaker 2: FEDS announced a criminal charge against an arson for the

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Speaker 2: Lochman fire, which occurred on January one, and during this

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Speaker 2: press conference they said, you know, the Lachman fire was

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Speaker 2: up there between January one and January sixth, and many

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Speaker 2: people reported seeing these whifts of smoke and smoldering smoke

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Speaker 2: unless you see flames, we're not going to do anything.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, no, wait wait, wait, stop right there, because

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Speaker 1: Deby and I were talking about this before, and first

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Speaker 1: saying a lot of people did, but they decided not

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Speaker 2: Calls, multiple calls from people that live in the area

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Speaker 1: What did the nine one one operator typically say.

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Speaker 2: Well, I can tell you from experience. We had a

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Speaker 2: so they believed and we saw smoke. Several days later,

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Speaker 2: my wife called nine one one and they said, well,

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Speaker 2: unless you can report flames, we're not going to respond. Now.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that's a protocol, but apparently that's

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Speaker 2: the same message that these folks were too.

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Speaker 1: Right, But we had potential one hundred mile an hour winds.

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Speaker 2: Coming exactly right.

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Speaker 1: It clearly is a hot spot and Everybody who studies

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Speaker 2: Absolutely true. So it wasn't as if we had no

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Speaker 2: Firefighters will tell you those embers can remain active for

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Speaker 2: weeks after a fire, so all the more reason for

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Speaker 2: the state. Now, remember, the key is this is on

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Speaker 2: state land. Where the Palisades fire started, which is different

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Speaker 2: from the Lockman fire, was squarely on state land. That's

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Speaker 2: the state's newsom's responsibility to have watch crews up there

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Speaker 2: inspecting the area that burned on state land to make

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Speaker 2: sure it didn't be kindle, and they had nobody up there.

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Speaker 1: State had nobody up there. The city wasn't going to

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Speaker 2: Well except fingerpoint. Now you've got a massive finger appointing

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Speaker 2: not ours. Oh my god, massive fingerpointing going on. But

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Speaker 2: all of this could have been prevented. What we know

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Speaker 1: Have you discovered why with so many reports of smoke

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Speaker 1: and the forecast was so dire, why nobody from any

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Speaker 2: No explanation. The only thing we're told is they believed

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Speaker 2: we said, well, wait a minute. Smoke coming out of

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Speaker 2: whether you're a firefighter or not, seeing smoke coming out

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Speaker 2: there's some problem there that needs to be addressed, especially.

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Speaker 1: In the context of those forecasts.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you add on top of that, the

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Speaker 2: city knew they had no water. If it rekindled, they

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Speaker 1: Anyway, This is so far worse than I even imagined.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it just gets worse by the day.

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Speaker 1: And nobody addresses this. There's nobody in the last nine

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Speaker 1: about all this.

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Speaker 2: No, it's a massive finger pointing exercise, and every time

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Speaker 2: we discover something new that implicates the city or the state,

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Speaker 2: they just point fingers at other people. No acceptance of responsibility.

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Speaker 2: And you have thousands of people who have lost homes,

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Speaker 2: twelve families, lost family members, and no accountability.

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Speaker 1: Zero, no explanation, no responsibility taking, no apology, no nothing.

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Speaker 1: That's that's right, that's astounding. Can you hang on? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Roger Bailey, he's the attorney for thousands of Palisades residents.

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine this?

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Speaker 3: So multiple people people.

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Speaker 1: Called and what the nine one one operators are taught

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Speaker 1: that if they don't say flame, then nobody has to

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Speaker 1: come up. What's wrong with the fire departments that we have?

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Speaker 1: What's wrong with everybody? A massive failure.

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Speaker 1: Let's get Roger Bailey back on here. He's the attorney

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Speaker 1: representing thousands of Palisades residents from that fire and the

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Speaker 1: big news that broke over the weekend. Was there is

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Speaker 1: there's a hiker who took video January second, the day

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Speaker 1: after the original fire, known as the Lockman fire, was

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Speaker 1: supposed to be put out, and on January second, he's

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Speaker 1: got video of smoldering, white wisps of smoke into the air.

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Speaker 1: And he was just telling us that they have multiple

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Speaker 1: the smoldering and they called nine one one and they

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Speaker 1: check on the smoldering. Especially again, this is the context

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Speaker 1: of these extreme dire warnings from the National Weather Service

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Speaker 1: that winds might hit eighty to one hundred miles an hour. Roger,

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Speaker 1: you know, I know you can't reveal stuff that's confidential

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Speaker 1: at this point are necessary for the investigation or the positions,

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Speaker 1: the court hearings and all that. But did you have

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Speaker 1: you gone a sense anybody behind the scenes off the record,

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Speaker 1: just in a general way, has anybody explained why there

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Speaker 1: could be a massive failure by every single city, county,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there there is no answer that's been forthcoming after

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Speaker 2: ten months, all we've had thus far, as I said

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Speaker 2: earlier's a lot of finger pointing, not my responsibility. You know,

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Speaker 2: talk to this agency, not their response. We talked to

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Speaker 2: the next agency, and it's just a lot of deflection.

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Speaker 2: The other thing that we've heard is the government, All

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Speaker 2: government agencies enjoy what we call immunity from certain types

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Speaker 2: and other you claim that they're immune from responsibility because

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Speaker 2: they're immune from it. But there's been no acceptance or

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Speaker 1: So nobody feels bad. Nobody feels like they failed, they

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Speaker 1: let the public down. I mean, we had deaths, we

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Speaker 1: had massive destruction like LA has never seen. Nobody says,

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Speaker 1: said something, or I know why this culture allowed this

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Speaker 5: It's stunning to me.

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Speaker 2: When you have a disaster of this scope and magnitude,

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Speaker 2: with thousands of families displaced in a matter of a

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Speaker 2: days and family members being lost to the wildfire, you'd

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Speaker 2: think some member of the government would step forward and

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Speaker 2: say you know, we accept responsibility. We you know, we're

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Speaker 2: sorry for your plight. It's been nothing. It's just just

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Speaker 2: been different election and finger pointing everything.

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Speaker 1: I'm just every aspect of this is insane, from the

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's not to mention. Now the state's role

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Speaker 1: may have started, the big fire may have started on

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Speaker 1: state land. And I'm going through one of the articles

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Speaker 1: on it, and there's there's all these departments and agencies

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Speaker 1: UH that have jurisdiction, UH California State Parks, the Mountains

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Speaker 1: I guess these these multiple jurisdictions prevent anybody from fighting

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Speaker 1: out who's really responsible.

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Speaker 2: Well, all of them leads the state.

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Speaker 5: Like I said that one of the benefits of having

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Speaker 5: the ATF analysis is that they confirmed that what we

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Speaker 5: know is the Palisades Fire started squarely on state land.

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Speaker 2: So where does the buck stop when it comes to

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Speaker 2: the start of the Palisades fire. It stops with the

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Speaker 2: state that state land the state's legal obligation to inspect

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Speaker 2: it out to this agency or that agency. Ultimately, the

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Speaker 2: landowner the state is responsible for inspecting its own property.

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Speaker 1: And the brush for the bus a brush not cleared, of.

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Speaker 2: Course not No, everything was overgrown. I mean they've changed

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Speaker 2: so many things for environmental reasons over the years that

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Speaker 2: been trimmed in years. And then it just takes you know,

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Speaker 2: some members and an unprecedented sant Ana wind event and

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Speaker 2: of the scope and magnitude of the Palisades fire.

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Speaker 1: I got to go after this one, but nobody got

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Speaker 1: spooked by the five days of forecasts about the extreme

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Speaker 1: winds and the high fire danger. Nobody got spooked by

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Speaker 2: Well, I think they're all out of the country at

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Speaker 2: that time. But it's actually stunning to me. Those of

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Speaker 2: us that have lived here know that when you get

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Speaker 2: high winds, and all it takes is an errant spark

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Speaker 2: or in this case, smoldering embers, and you have a disaster.

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Speaker 2: So I can't believe with all of the warnings and

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Speaker 1: No, he's gonna have a He's gonna have a lot

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