1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: Welcome in Monday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate 2 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: all of you hanging out with us as we are 3 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: set to attempt to bring some sanity to an insane world, 4 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: as every single day it feels like things just get wackier, 5 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 1: wonkier and more outrageous, including even the Olympics, which we're 6 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 1: going to talk about some a lot of you reacting 7 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: to that opening ceremony. 8 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 2: Even Bunk was like, Hey, what in the world's going on? 9 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 2: Did you? So we'll talk about that. 10 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:34,919 Speaker 1: We'll talk about this strange move honestly, that Biden is 11 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 1: now trying to redo the Supreme Court, but he's only 12 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: got five months left in office and there's no way 13 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: that this is going to change anything. And then JD 14 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: Vance coming in for massive attacks Kamala. Did you see 15 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 1: the cover of New York magazine where they're talking about, Oh, 16 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: look at what an incredible, incredible run Kamala Harris is having. 17 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,959 Speaker 1: But is she starting to run finally into a bit 18 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: of pushback. We'll talk about all that and more, But Buck, 19 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: I'm curious. I've watched decent amount of the Olympics, I 20 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 1: would say, but on Friday, you and I were on 21 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: the phone, and I had the Olympic Ceremony on in 22 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: the background while we were talking, and I saw this 23 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: sort of strange transgender version of the Last Supper, and 24 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: I retweeted it because I was like, this looks very odd. 25 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: Before even the religious overtones, which were quite clear and intentional, 26 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 1: really kind of registered him. My first thought was about 27 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: the Charlie Keebdo Hebdo and the Muslim terrorists showed up 28 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: and murdered everyone who made fun of Mohammed in France. 29 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: If you don't remember that story, I think it was 30 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: twenty fifteen or so, I would think just in general. 31 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 2: And there was also the Danish cartoons too, by the way, 32 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 2: and which was a huge controversy because they had Mohammed 33 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 2: with the bomb on his head. Yeah, as a cartoon, 34 00:01:57,760 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 2: but I. 35 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: Would think when your goal is to appeal to billions 36 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: of people, that you would not try to alienate anyone, 37 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 1: much less one of the largest religious groups on the planet. 38 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 2: And so I just it feels because I just tell 39 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 2: everybody as Clay and I are talking about this effort 40 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 2: to wage war on Western civilization and Christianity specifically, and 41 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 2: those things are inextricably linked and symbiotic. Truly, there is 42 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 2: thunder and lightning breaking out so loudly it sounds like 43 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 2: we're in the middle of a lightning field. Right when 44 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 2: I just ran in. 45 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: It looks like the apocalypse is or even in like 46 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 1: Independence Day, you know, when the aliens are coming out. Yeah, 47 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: that's what it looks like outside right here. And literally 48 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:49,119 Speaker 1: the entire building that we're in is shaking as this 49 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: massive storm is rolling through so hotly. 50 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 2: We stay on air, by the way, I don't like 51 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 2: to Yeah, usually we're in different places, so at least 52 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 2: then we don't have to worry about the power going 53 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 2: out in one place. I generally don't like to throw 54 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 2: the term demonic around loosely, yep, because I think that 55 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 2: it is. I think it's important. I think it's the 56 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 2: only way to describe certain things. I don't know how 57 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 2: else you describe a mockery in knowing it would be 58 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 2: in front of a billion people. I believe it had 59 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 2: one hundred, one hundred and fifty million dollar budget to 60 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 2: pull this whole thing together, which is, by the way, obscene, 61 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 2: you know, not in the same way this other stuff 62 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 2: was obscene. There was like a somewhat naked blue smurf 63 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 2: on a table. I mean I saw this afterwards because 64 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 2: everyone was so outraged by it. At least everybody who 65 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 2: you know cares about God, Christianity and Western civilization, and 66 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 2: you know, it's it's a reminder, unfortunately, of many things. 67 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 2: One is that there is really a globalist religion and 68 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 2: a secularist religion. I know that seems that seems like 69 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 2: a oxymoron, but it's true of trans and lgbt Q 70 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 2: I a orthodoxy now that the entire Western world has 71 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 2: a segment that believes that this is the most important 72 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 2: battle for like the future of our species. Basically is 73 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 2: to make sure that you know, there are trans kids, 74 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 2: and there's non binary, and there's all these other things, 75 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 2: and that there is interwoven in the fabric of society 76 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 2: and civilization as anything else. Uh, And to affront the 77 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 2: Last Supper in this way, whether someone's a believer or not, 78 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 2: this is demonic. This whole thing was was demonic and 79 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 2: depraved and not even it wasn't even funny. Yeah, you know, 80 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 2: I mean some people, for example, did you ever see 81 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 2: the Book of Mormon? Oh yeah, I liked though I knew, 82 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 2: I knew you were going to lie I found it, 83 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 2: you know, I I I thought it was I thought 84 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 2: across the line. And I'm not a Mormon, but I 85 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 2: thought across the line a little bit too much cursing 86 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 2: for me to be honest with you. But there were 87 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 2: funny moments, to be sure, and it was trying to 88 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 2: be funny and I and I did laugh at parts, 89 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 2: all right, So I'm not this whole thing. I'm like, 90 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 2: not only was it offensive, it was it was bizarre. Yeah, 91 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 2: it makes no sense in the context of the of 92 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 2: the Olympics. And to do this and to say that 93 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 2: it's about being inclusive, you're inherently excluding a couple of 94 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 2: billion Christians around the world from wanting to watch and 95 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 2: wanting to be a part of this ceremony, do you 96 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 2: know what I mean? 97 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: No, And my takeaway within the context of the Charlie 98 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: Hebdo controversy, when they Muslim fundamentalists showed up and murdered 99 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: many of the journalists that were involved in what is 100 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: the satirical magazine that's designed to ridicule everyone, and that's 101 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: why they were ridiculing Mohammed, much like say South Park 102 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: would do right when they put Muhammed in a bear. 103 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 2: Suit, and they've taken that off the area. Now I 104 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 2: know you can't. You can't find it anymore. It's gone. 105 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: Well that's my point. The people who should be satirized 106 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 1: are the people who are willing to kill when they 107 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: are satirized. Now, it's dangerous, but they would never do 108 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 1: anything that would offend anyone who is Muslim in that 109 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: opening show because they're afraid of what would happen to them. 110 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: Christians tend to be live and let live. They don't 111 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: typically take out their anger in the same way that 112 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: other religious groups do. So that's what stood out to me. 113 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: And again I just come back to the whole purpose 114 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 1: of the Olympics is to bring in people from every 115 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: part of the world, from every background and figure out 116 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: who's the best at something. It is the ultimate ideally 117 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: inclusive environment. Look, there are lots of countries that are 118 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 1: totalitarian that I disagree with. North Korea has a team 119 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: at the Olympics, right, they're trying to win gold medals, 120 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: So why would you intentionally attack billions of people? And 121 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 1: the other thing I think is important about this buck 122 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 1: is to your they spend on hundred million. It's a 123 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: scripted planned Somebody looks at this And it's not like 124 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 1: somebody made a joke that was unexpected it as sometimes 125 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: happens on live television and people got offended. This is 126 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: a script. They acted this out, they staged it, they 127 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: performed it, they intended it. I just can't believe how 128 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: many people would have signed off on this well. 129 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 2: And it's also I think a reminder unfortunately, of how 130 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 2: the Christian turned the other cheek belief. And I know 131 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 2: that's much more complicated than just the phrase, and some 132 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 2: people say it's turned the other cheek to show your defiance, 133 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 2: but that we are expected. I mean, I'm a Roman Catholic. 134 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 2: We're expected to take stuff that nobody else is when 135 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 2: it comes to and I would just say, I believe 136 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 2: anyone's allowed to say what they want to say about 137 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 2: another religion. As you know, Islam is the only religion 138 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 2: and this is actually from Christopher Hitchins that makes the 139 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 2: claim for itself that non believers are held to a 140 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 2: standard of blasphemy in the modern world. That is the 141 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 2: only religion on the planet of any significance that says 142 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 2: you must obey our hurt feelings as well, even if 143 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,679 Speaker 2: you are a non Muslim. Nobody else does that. Nobody 144 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 2: else is able to say, uh that and with threat 145 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 2: of force, by the way, I mean, and people will 146 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 2: argue over that. They will they will kill people. I mean, 147 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 2: that's the And it's interesting also that the left loves 148 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 2: the term stochastic terrorism. And if we remember sarcastic, I mean, 149 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 2: it's a mathematical term meaning random. And they will say, well, 150 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 2: if any right wing person does a bad thing, it's 151 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:39,239 Speaker 2: because of the seeding of that ground with right wing ideology, 152 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 2: knowing that it will create one terrorist incident, that's stochastic terrorism. 153 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 2: The Islamic world is ground zero whoops for stochastic terrorism, 154 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 2: right And and that just means that, yeah, there are 155 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 2: there are individuals, and when you actually break it down 156 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 2: by the numbers within the Islamic faith, it's a shockingly 157 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 2: large number of people, even if they's a very small percentage, 158 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 2: which it is as well of the overall who believe 159 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 2: that violence for blaspheming the profit is legitimate. Look at 160 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 2: the polls in the UK. Yeah, I mean I'm not 161 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 2: talking about in Saudi Arabia. Look at the poles in 162 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 2: the United Kingdom, Look at the poles in Dearborn, Michigan. 163 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 2: About whether you should face violence for blaspheming the prophet. 164 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 2: So you know, it's just show. I mean, for one thing, 165 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 2: France in particular, the reason that that the mind goes 166 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 2: to this is that France is supposed to be a 167 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 2: great Christian and great I mean in terms of historically 168 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 2: it's supposed to be an important Christian nation and it's 169 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:40,319 Speaker 2: gone secular and now it's in fear of Islam uh. 170 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 2: And that's how it operates as a society. And and 171 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 2: I think that there's there's a warning there for how 172 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 2: we can continue to just go forward as our in 173 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 2: our in our own country here and not defend core 174 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 2: values and civilizational truths, quite honestly, and one of them 175 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 2: is free speech. And the fact that the that the 176 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 2: fair cost Mohammed thing is off the air and all that. 177 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 2: That's a part of this. But also, you know, Clay Is, 178 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 2: you know better than anybody. Sports has become such a 179 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 2: powerful medium of entertainment that the more I the more 180 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 2: I think about this, the more I understand they're never 181 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 2: going to back off. You have, because what's up you 182 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,079 Speaker 2: have to have to fight them. They're never going to 183 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 2: get tired of this, They're never going to really, they're 184 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 2: never going to say to themselves, oh wow, I'm not 185 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 2: getting the effect that I want. They can demand the 186 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 2: attention of people who don't want to hear their lectures 187 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 2: about how we need non binary transsmurfs on the table 188 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 2: or whatever that guy was, and say, oh, you think 189 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 2: you're going to watch a celebration of athletes, You're going 190 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 2: to watch left wing uh, anti god, demonic propaganda and 191 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 2: and you know, we can either sit back and allow it, 192 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:50,719 Speaker 2: or people can say that this is going to have consequences, 193 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 2: lawful consequence. I think there are two ways. 194 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 1: We've talked about this a lot, and I made my 195 00:10:56,480 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: decision without kick. One is you can just stop watching. 196 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 1: And there are some of you out there that are saying, hey, 197 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: I'm just not going to watch the Olympics now. To 198 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: be fair, none of the athletes had anything to do 199 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: with the Olympic opening leer. 200 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 2: That's the problem is why punish even working for four 201 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:16,719 Speaker 2: years to be the the you know, the best high 202 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 2: jumper in the world. Let's be honest, nobody gives anything 203 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 2: about the high jump until the Olympic. 204 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: That's rights and the same things with all the swimming competitions. 205 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: We were talking about this going in the weekend track 206 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: and field and swimming. This is the one time most 207 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: of us care about that stuff for four years. The 208 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: same thing with gymnastics to a large extent. Again, some 209 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: of you are diehards, I get it, but most people 210 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: tune in for the Olympics. So you can either say, hey, 211 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: I'm tuning out like one of these guys pulled the 212 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: advertising off of the Olympics over it, or you can 213 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,439 Speaker 1: do what what we did at out Kick, And I 214 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: think sooner or later, what people have to do is 215 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: actually fight back, and so that's how you win. I 216 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 1: don't think you can just get away the battlefield. I 217 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: think you have to basically, again we're speaking metaphorically, but 218 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: I have to think you have to take up arms 219 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: and actually engage in a battle of ideas. And I 220 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: think we've had a lot of impact in the world 221 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: of sports at OutKick, and many of you out there 222 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: have as well. A lot of athletes are just playing 223 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: their games now. Michael Jordan had it right, I think 224 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: when he said Republicans by sneakers, too, Christians by sneakers, 225 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: Muslims by sneakers. Why in the world would you offend 226 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: anybody in the opening ceremony intentionally. And the last thing 227 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 1: that I think is scary buck is you know what's awful. 228 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: Western civilization has given us all these freedoms, and now 229 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: attacking Western civilization as is occurring, is threatening to take. 230 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 2: Them all away. Well, this is this is how they 231 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 2: always do it, though. This is what we see in 232 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 2: the Venezuela election that's being stolen right before. Where are 233 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 2: you on observers, by the way, where are the lectures? 234 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 2: Where's everyone all freaked out about? 235 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 3: Oh? 236 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 2: What about the voting and everything invent well, and no 237 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 2: one seems to care socialism. The people of Venezuela voted 238 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 2: for it, and what they didn't realize is they get it, 239 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,319 Speaker 2: and if the people in charge have their way, they're 240 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 2: going to get socialism forever. Yes, democracy delivers socialism once 241 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 2: so that they can have socialism for all time. Yes, 242 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 2: that's the way that goes. So, you know, on our 243 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 2: side of things too, I think unfortunately, there's been something 244 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 2: similar with the concept of tolerance. Tolerance was the big buzzword. 245 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:30,959 Speaker 2: Now it's inclusion right now, it's something else. But tolerance 246 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 2: was the word of the nineties to allow for people 247 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 2: to make the case that you should just let you know, 248 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 2: let the crucifixes in Urine in New York City at 249 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 2: the Museum go let And what we see is that 250 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 2: the tolerance always goes one way. It's a one way tolerance, 251 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,079 Speaker 2: and that's a problem. And also I think there's a 252 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 2: lot of problems with the inclusion as the new buzzword. 253 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 2: Inclusion eventually leads to exclusion, which nobody talks about, and 254 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 2: somethings shouldn't be included. I agree. I don't think Weird 255 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 2: bluesmur Guy needed to be included in that. You know, 256 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 2: call me, I don't think the Last Supper need to 257 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 2: be included in that. I mean inclusion. We can see 258 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 2: it all day and talking about this. The people that 259 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 2: are always calling for inclusion and use that as a 260 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 2: means to justify some of their choices. There are a 261 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 2: lot of things that you could have shown up there 262 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 2: that if you try to say, oh, I'm just being inclusive, yeah, 263 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 2: they would have a try to share. What if you 264 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 2: had depicted men defeating women in sports because men have 265 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 2: an advantage in sports over women. And what if you 266 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 2: showed macho man Randy Savage showing up at the Olympics 267 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 2: pretending to you women going oh, yeah, I'm gonna crush them. Oh, 268 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 2: that wouldn't be inclusive. 269 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: No, it actually leads directly to exclusion because women are 270 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: being excluded from sports. Of course, you can't talk about 271 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: that in the Olympics, but you can talk about how 272 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: trans people should be re enacting the Last Supper. Again, 273 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: it's planned, it's scheduled. It wasn't an accidental thing that 274 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: happened to get on the air. 275 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 2: This wasn't an error. 276 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: Everybody wanted this to happen, and they on some level 277 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: buck win when you talk about it, right, because that's 278 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: what they wanted. Yeah, although I'm I'm one of those 279 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: people who probably isn't going to watch any of it now. 280 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I feel badly for the athlet but you know, 281 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: I don't really watch on sports anyway, so I'm not 282 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: exactly a great example of this. 283 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 2: By the way, Kamala wants us all to feel weird. 284 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 2: Let me see this. I saw this. If you're on 285 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 2: team Kamala, you got to use that word. You got 286 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 2: to talk about things being things are weird. Trump is weird. 287 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 2: Jd Vance is weird. I'm not making this up. We 288 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 2: will come back. We will tell you about this. This 289 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 2: is the whole campaign of the Kamala of this week, 290 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 2: at least in what they're also calling come a Lot 291 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 2: in New York, Max Saw. That's why I say the 292 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 2: cover of New York basine come a Lot, Kama. I think, yes, 293 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 2: we'll get into it. You know, time flies and the 294 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 2: value of your savings. Unfortunately, when it comes to dollars diminishes. 295 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 2: Fifteen years ago, if you had one hundred thousand dollars 296 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 2: in a savings account today would only go as far 297 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 2: as seventy grand in buying power. You know the causes 298 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 2: of that, both inflation and out of spending. 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They're trying so desperately to 324 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 2: really run a campaign in three months, and as part 325 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 2: of that, the media they can't be subtle, not that 326 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 2: they're ever subtle, but they're even less subtle than they 327 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 2: would normally be in their partisan inclination. So Clay, we 328 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 2: come back. We're just gonna let them hear about how 329 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 2: all of a sudden everyone's saying, yeah, you know. Jd 330 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 2: Vance is kind of weird, and it's so funny to 331 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 2: me because jd Vance reminds me of like half the 332 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 2: guys I went to college with. Like, I don't know 333 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 2: what they're weird. I don't know what they're talking about, 334 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 2: but actually I do. I do. We're going to dive 335 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 2: into this because they're going after the vice president. They're 336 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 2: trying to mobilize people against the Trump ticket. We'll discuss 337 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 2: how in a second. You know, really smart CEOs makes savvy, 338 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 2: calculated decisions, and they do it after a lot of research, 339 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 2: and they bring to bear decades of experience. A CEO 340 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 2: just like this is my friend Porter Stansbury, who opted 341 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 2: to forego a traditional salary in lieu of a new 342 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 2: form of compensation, a new currency, so to speak. He's 343 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 2: sharing it all, every detail of this new way to 344 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 2: get paid in a video online. He's doing it because 345 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 2: he wants you to consider following his lead. He's dropped 346 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 2: his salary to just a dollar a year. Porter sees 347 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 2: a new form of money in America and it's making 348 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 2: some people very wealthy. You don't need to be a 349 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 2: CEO to obtain this new kind of compensation. Thousands of 350 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 2: Americans in different full time roles have already started to 351 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 2: be compensated in this way. Every American is legally entitled 352 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 2: to use this not so well known currency, but you 353 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 2: know much about it. Porter's hoping to change that. Check 354 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 2: out Porter's latest detailed presentation at secret Currency twenty twenty 355 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 2: four dot com. You won't see this opportunity discussed anywhere else. 356 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 2: Go to Secret Currency twenty twenty four dot com. 357 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: Play Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging 358 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 1: out with us. There really are a lot of herd animals, 359 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 1: in particular on the left. The same people who told 360 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: you that Joe Biden was super sharp behind closed doors, 361 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: and remember Buck, they were all saying, hey, maybe Biden 362 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: should think about replacing Kamala Harris because she's been such 363 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 1: a bad vice president. 364 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 2: You remember when all that was. 365 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 1: Going on, and they were telling you that Kamala was 366 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: not a great vice president and that maybe she should 367 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: be replaced, And actually Biden was super sharp behind closed doors. 368 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: Now they've pivoted and Kamala Harris is the greatest thing 369 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: that's ever existed. She's got Obama like appeal. Everybody is 370 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: getting fired up. You mentioned the cover of New York 371 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 1: magazine where they're trying to now make her the new Camelot, 372 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: using Kamala, the kam to spell Camelot, to try to 373 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: connect her now to JFK, to Obama, all these different things. Well, 374 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 1: they're also saying JD. Vance, he's really weird. Trump, he's 375 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: really weird. The people who believe that men pretending to 376 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: be women should be able to win women's championships, because 377 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: even if you have a penis, you're still a woman 378 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: in their mind, they think JD. Vance is weird. Listen 379 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: to this new talking point. This is their attack. Trump 380 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 1: and jd are weird. 381 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 2: Listen. The party converges around a new message about the 382 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 2: Republican nominees, arguing they're weird. These Republicans just being weird, 383 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 2: just playing weird. These guys are crazy, that these guys 384 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 2: are weird. 385 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,360 Speaker 3: Some of what he and his running mate are saying, well, 386 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:42,439 Speaker 3: it's just playing weird. 387 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: On the other side, they're just weird, just playing weird, 388 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: weird or weirdohs, weirdos and freaks. 389 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 2: Vance has done something more extreme, more weird. The weird 390 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 2: statements that JD. Vance has made, They will argue he's 391 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 2: weird and ill prepared. 392 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: It's not just a weird style that he brings, it's 393 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: that this leads to weird policies. 394 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 2: We're not afraid of weird people. We're a little bit 395 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 2: creeped out, but we're not a prey. What's weird? I mean? 396 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 1: I mean, in all honesty, I think the vast majority 397 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: of Trump policies in particular, are most of them common sense. 398 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,719 Speaker 1: But they think that this is going to be an 399 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: attack that is going to work. So their word of 400 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: the day, maybe their word of the week, their theme 401 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 1: is they're weird strange. 402 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, Well, let's actually unpack this for a second here. 403 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 2: First of all, the party that thinks that eight year 404 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 2: old need to read books with pornographic material in them 405 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 2: in school and twelve to sixteen year old should be 406 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 2: allowed to have gender transition surgery and hormones in some 407 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 2: cases without parental consent, I think they're the weird We're 408 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 2: talking weird. Yes, I think the Democrat Party is obviously 409 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 2: the weird party. I think that the invitations of some 410 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 2: of the influencers that we've seen through the Biden White House, 411 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 2: including the trans individual who had fake boobs and went topless, 412 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 2: on the White House lawn. You can say a lot 413 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 2: of things about Trump. He never had some trans person 414 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 2: flashing the boob job boobs. 415 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: Yes, it's really challenging my love for boobs. By the 416 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 1: way boobs are like that. That really throws the First 417 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: Amendment boobs into a into a quander. 418 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 2: I didn't want to bring it up, Clay, but I'm 419 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 2: just saying I think you needed asterisk under that. But nonetheless, uh, 420 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 2: I think it's clear that Democrats are the weird They're 421 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 2: the weirdos or the weird ones. But even beyond that, 422 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,199 Speaker 2: let's just look at jd Vance for a second. What 423 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 2: he comes from a difficult upbringing. He's totally self made. 424 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 2: He wrote a smash best selling memoir about his difficult 425 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 2: best difficult upbringing, which turned into a movie with Ron 426 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 2: Howard directing. He's a venture capitalist. He was a former marine. 427 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 2: He went to Yale Law School. Not because mommy or 428 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 2: daddy went there or donated a building or he had 429 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 2: the right skin color. He went there because he was 430 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 2: a really smart, compelling guy. And why is he weird? 431 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 2: Because he likes Lord of the Rings. I like Lord 432 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 2: of the Rings. I guess that makes me weird. Like, 433 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 2: what what is weird about jad Evince. They've just taken 434 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 2: one comment, the cat ladies comment, and it's interest because 435 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 2: I've noticed there's some there's some uh people on the 436 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 2: right are upset about this something. Yes, that's what I was, 437 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 2: thank you. That's about there is a little bit of 438 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 2: sensitivity about this. And look, it's he if you take 439 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 2: it away from the rest of his comments. Even in 440 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 2: that one setting where they pulled that clip, he says, 441 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 2: I'm not talking about I am not talking about I'm 442 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 2: roughly paraphrasing here, but people that can't have children for 443 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,640 Speaker 2: medical reasons or that just had difficulties in their life 444 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 2: where they always wanted kids but they never got there. 445 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 2: He was referring to people who made the conscious choice 446 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,199 Speaker 2: to never have a family because, oh, I don't know, 447 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 2: they're scared of climate change. And here you go, here's 448 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 2: Kamala Harris. This is cut too, Clay, Kamala Harris, you 449 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 2: want to talk weird. She thinks you shouldn't have kids 450 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 2: because of climate change. 451 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 3: I've heard young leaders talk with me about a term 452 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 3: they've coined called climate anxiety, right, which is fear of 453 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 3: the future and the unknown of whether it makes sense 454 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 3: for you to even think about having children. 455 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 2: That's I mean, I understand she's talking about a sentiment 456 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 2: within the Democrat Party. She should be saying, those people 457 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 2: have an anxiety disorder and they need mental help. 458 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, and we should have a I think a discussion 459 00:24:55,160 --> 00:25:00,959 Speaker 1: about what jad said, because I don't think it's controversial 460 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: at all to say that kids, having kids is a 461 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 1: vote on the future of the world and optimism. And 462 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 1: also I would say I saw Jordan Peterson talk about this. 463 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 1: He said having kids doesn't and I'm paraphrasing him, but 464 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 1: I thought he said it well. 465 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:25,439 Speaker 2: He said, it doesn't mean that. 466 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: You're going to be mature necessarily or that the kids 467 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 1: are going to matter more than you, but it should, 468 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: and for most people it does. I know for me 469 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,679 Speaker 1: having three kids, the moment we had our first kid, 470 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 1: you for the first time in your life, to a 471 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:50,360 Speaker 1: large extent, are not the most important person in your 472 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: own world. You get married, ideally you're coequal in some way. 473 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: But when you have kids, you you have someone that 474 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: you would probably give your life for in an instant 475 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 1: and not even think about it. 476 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 2: I know that I would. 477 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 1: I know that most of you out there would with 478 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: your own kids as well. It's inn eate, it makes sense, 479 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 1: but until you have those kids, you don't really understand it. 480 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:23,640 Speaker 1: And so building on that, I do think that if 481 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 1: you're a politician that if you have kids, I trust 482 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: you more. If you believe in God, I trust you more. 483 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: When someone is trying to go get the ultimate power 484 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: in the country, I think if you know that there 485 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: are things that they care about more than their job, 486 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 1: it makes me trust them more. And I don't see 487 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: anything that jd. Vance said or this ties into me 488 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 1: buck with what Harrison Butker said. If you remember when 489 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 1: that exploded into a huge controversy and people were attacking 490 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:01,199 Speaker 1: him like crazy. I think that people who have kids 491 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: it should be encouraged. And I think that most people 492 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: trust politicians with kids more. And I think that there 493 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: are a lot of people and I think what you 494 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: said is important. That clip that nobody's playing where he says, look, 495 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: a lot of people want to have kids desperately, and 496 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: they struggle and they're having difficulty. Yes, and he specifically 497 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 1: acknowledged them and said, I'm not talking about those people. 498 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: I just sometimes there are things that become controversial. And 499 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:31,679 Speaker 1: I look at him and I felt the same way 500 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: about this comment as I did the Harrison Butker comments. 501 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: Not only should they not be controversial to a large extent, 502 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,199 Speaker 1: what they're saying when you listen to the context is 503 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: actually true and important. 504 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 2: And I also think it needs to be added into 505 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 2: this part of the equation because I've had I've had 506 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 2: a surprising number of friends' contacts on the right reach 507 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 2: out to me with this, are you worried about jad? 508 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 2: Because they know that I've been very vocal about how 509 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 2: I thought he would be the pay and then I 510 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 2: thought he would be a good pick. Right, But so 511 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 2: they're like, are you worried about this now? 512 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 4: Like? 513 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 2: Has this become a stumbling block for Trump? And I 514 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 2: just have to remind them everyone, let's remember what time 515 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 2: it is. ANYVP of Donald Trump, Yes, is a horrible person, weirdo, misogynist, racist, 516 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 2: doesn't matter. Is it a woman misogynist? Is it a 517 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 2: minority racist? They don't care whoever Trump's VP was going 518 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,679 Speaker 2: to be, especially given the way that they have a 519 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,919 Speaker 2: compressed timeline. This is the thing. What you're seeing is 520 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 2: what the media normally does, Clay, you know, this is 521 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 2: what everyone's seeing. This is how the media normally operates, 522 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 2: but you're seeing it at two times speed. For those 523 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 2: of you like to watch some time something on you know, 524 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 2: on fast forward, you're seeing the media campaign for Kamala 525 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 2: on fast forward. So that makes it easier to pick 526 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 2: up on these things, like they're all saying weird all 527 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 2: of a sudden. Whoever Trump's vice president was going to 528 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 2: be Jade Vanser anybody else, They would go to extreme 529 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 2: lengths to convince you this person is just fill in 530 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,719 Speaker 2: the blank. Think of ten words for a person that 531 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 2: make them bad, and they would have all of those 532 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 2: things to say about this person doesn't matter. Well. 533 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: The best example of that is, can you think of 534 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: two less blandly inoffensive people than Mitt Romney and Mike Pence? 535 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: They are maybe the two most boring inoffensive. Like I 536 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: think you've referred to him as like ned Flan flenns 537 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: with a lot of money. Yeah, yeah, Claire. One of 538 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: them is remotely offensive at all, and they tried to 539 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: destroy them both. 540 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 2: Mitt Romney is somebody who was so able, so intellectually 541 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 2: and emotionally malleable, that he, as a quote Republican, went 542 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 2: marching with a mask on to show his support for 543 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 2: black lives matter. So that showed you this guy actually 544 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 2: has no real backbone, and we should have known better. 545 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 2: But you know he was the nominee. We do what 546 00:29:56,000 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 2: we can, Clay, They said. Mitt Romney was a high 547 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 2: school bully who abuses dogs yep, which we know is 548 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 2: very gets, very emotional, and one of those people. I 549 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 2: don't like anyone being mean to dogs, abuses dogs, and 550 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 2: gives people cancer after he throws their spouse off the 551 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 2: company healthcare as a private equity guy. You know what 552 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 2: I mean. Yeah, Like he was the worst the governor 553 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 2: of Massachusetts, and he was the most milk toast, you know, 554 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 2: center right Republican you could possibly find on the national stage. 555 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 2: Mike Tence was the American Christian Taliban as far as 556 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 2: they were concerned. I know, Christian Taliban is an oxymoron, 557 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 2: but you know what I mean, Like he was. He 558 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 2: was the guy from the thing where the ladies all 559 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 2: dressed up with the Handmaid's Tale. He's the Handmaid's Tale guy. 560 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 2: He was. He had a rule that he wouldn't be 561 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 2: alone in a room with a woman. He wouldn't have 562 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 2: dinner alone with it one. By the way, I don't 563 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 2: think that's a bad rule. I'm a married guy now. 564 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 2: I don't think it's a bad rule. 565 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: They tried to turn that into the most like he was. 566 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 2: He was mulla omar. I mean he was like he 567 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 2: was some kind of religious he was an austere religious 568 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 2: scholar class. 569 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: I will say the one thing on jd. Vance is 570 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 1: he was relatively unknown. I think they would have had 571 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: a harder time hitting Marco Rubio, for instance, because I 572 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: think he's already gone through the vetting. When you run 573 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: for president of the United States, if you've got anything 574 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: in your background at all, they come after you in 575 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: a big way. 576 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 2: Uh. 577 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 1: And so I think jd Vance was still relatively unknown. 578 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: And I think where there they've had some success is 579 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: in defining him for the huge number of people out 580 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: there who didn't know him. But to your point, if 581 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 1: you just look at this guy on paper, born into 582 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: a poor family without a mom and dad, president in 583 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: his life to a large extent, raised by his grandmother, 584 00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: living in poverty, joins the Marine's it's. 585 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 2: A great American success story. Right. Everyone should want their 586 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 2: young son to grow up and be something like JD. 587 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: Vance, if we're being honest, goes to Ohio State. I 588 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 1: think on the gi Bill does so well there that 589 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: he gets into Yale Law School, which is very difficult 590 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: to get into it to your especially as a white guy. 591 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 2: Especially for a white guy. 592 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: Has tremendous success there, Marys and meets his wife there, 593 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: has a couple of kids, best selling author. They made 594 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 1: a Hollywood movie about how incredible is upbringing is. What 595 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: is Kabala done in comparison to that? 596 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 2: I say, there, I wonder. I mean, you look at 597 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 2: you look at Ursa, you look at their side. It's 598 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 2: like they've just got a bunch of MSNBC leaf behinds 599 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 2: in some community organizers running the Democrat Party. It's outrageous. 600 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: I mean, his his achievements are incredible, particularly compared to Kamala. 601 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 2: We'll see wh Kamala picks as a VP. But I 602 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 2: think it's good. 603 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: You know what, though, you think it's gonna be Shapiro, No, oh, 604 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 1: you think it's not. I think it's I think it's 605 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: going to be the astronaut Mark Kelly. I think it's 606 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 1: going to an astronaut. 607 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 2: I mean what I mean that's political, yeah, but that's 608 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 2: the point. It's so funny. They're hitting JD. Vans for 609 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,719 Speaker 2: being kind of like the all American success story. And 610 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 2: I think they might add Mark Kelly into the mix 611 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 2: to that's not be that that's so that they can 612 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 2: try to pull towards the center just in time for 613 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 2: the election before they go full communist if they win. 614 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 2: I think that what we need to talk about bad. 615 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 2: By the way, I wouldn't bet with you on this one, 616 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 2: because I mean, I could go it could be Shapiro, 617 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 2: could be Mark Kelly. 618 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: I don't have a strong feeling on this Shapiro. 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