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Speaker 2: I was gonna say good morning and good Friday was

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Speaker 2: good Eye might. Oh now I'm Australian.

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Speaker 1: Well you'll see, you'll see how that plays into this combo.

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Speaker 1: All right, good I might, Good Eye might.

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Speaker 2: The convo we're having today is I told you Chip

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Speaker 2: it professional. I swear to god, I think those are

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean well, because it's like the little nuances,

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Speaker 2: Well, I was, yeah, and you're trying to take each

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Speaker 3: Right, So we actually did all right.

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Speaker 2: My friend Tyler that was on Wednesday's episode is a

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Speaker 2: I think we need to do an update of some

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I think some of those issues that arose,

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Speaker 1: make dinner at home. Some of them have pools, so

440
00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,800
Speaker 1: it's like you still get that sort of vacation experience

441
00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,200
Speaker 1: and you can save a little money there. Yeah.

442
00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've mentioned this a couple of times. You said

443
00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,840
Speaker 2: that you and I travel a lot together, which is

444
00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,160
Speaker 2: true because our friend group is actually really good about

445
00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,959
Speaker 2: traveling together and going and exploring. Do you prefer to

446
00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:24,200
Speaker 2: travel with us or with friends or by yourself, because

447
00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:25,280
Speaker 2: I feel like you do both.

448
00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:30,560
Speaker 1: I do both. I think I have more fun with friends. Oftentimes,

449
00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:35,639
Speaker 1: when I'm alone, it's usually work related, so that gives

450
00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:39,080
Speaker 1: me the freedom to actually focus on my work and

451
00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,239
Speaker 1: get done what I need to do. And then if

452
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Speaker 1: I'm in a city where I know people, then I'll

453
00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,359
Speaker 1: make plans at night or whatever to see them, or

454
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Speaker 1: sometimes I don't like I use it as an opportunity

455
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Speaker 1: to kind of lay in a hotel bed and relax

456
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Speaker 1: because I never get that silence in my life. I

457
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Speaker 1: don't know. I don't think I'm the type that, like,

458
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Speaker 1: I know people that have gone to Europe and backpacked

459
00:20:58,760 --> 00:20:59,360
Speaker 1: by themselves.

460
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Speaker 2: That's that's my boyfriend. He loves to travel alone.

461
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:08,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've never maybe it is me, I've never done it. Yeah,

462
00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,439
Speaker 1: I mean I can see myself doing it. Yeah, I

463
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,919
Speaker 1: could see myself eat praying love in a few years.

464
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,960
Speaker 2: Like, well, so you you're the type of person that

465
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,600
Speaker 2: can walk into a restaurant or a bar or whatever

466
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Speaker 2: and you'll.

467
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Speaker 3: Have friends by the time you eat, right.

468
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:20,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

469
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Speaker 3: So for me thinking of you, I'm like, yeah, that's

470
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:24,520
Speaker 3: right up chips alley.

471
00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe I should do a documentary just oh okay.

472
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Speaker 3: Well this took a jon all of a sudden.

473
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Speaker 2: We're talking about traveling with friends or by yourself, and

474
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:35,280
Speaker 2: you're like, I'm gonna make a documentary.

475
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,200
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go film my journey.

476
00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,680
Speaker 2: So there was a couple of times where I've gone

477
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Speaker 2: either ahead or I've had like a day or two

478
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Speaker 2: after our friends. For instance, last year, I went to

479
00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,439
Speaker 2: London and I went a day ahead of everyone, and

480
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,480
Speaker 2: I loved that because it was like just the right

481
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,199
Speaker 2: amount of time for me to kind of get a

482
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Speaker 2: little bit ahead on.

483
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Speaker 3: The jet lag.

484
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Speaker 2: And I took myself to a nice dinner when I

485
00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:01,240
Speaker 2: first got there. I kind of walked around London. London

486
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,720
Speaker 2: such a vibe. I just felt very like, oh, look

487
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:08,399
Speaker 2: at me, an American girl in London. Right, It's like

488
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 2: a movie in my head.

489
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Speaker 3: You know.

490
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Speaker 2: And then the next day, like a bunch of my

491
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 2: friends got there and it was just great because it

492
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:18,200
Speaker 2: was like best of both worlds.

493
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Speaker 3: So I like that.

494
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Speaker 2: Like, I don't think I would want to do a

495
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,800
Speaker 2: full trip by myself, unless maybe it was somewhere I

496
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,399
Speaker 2: was familiar with, right, or I guess I would do

497
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,639
Speaker 2: it in the States easy, But I think I just

498
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,879
Speaker 2: get kind of lonely and bored after a couple of days.

499
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,359
Speaker 2: So it's nice to have the time by yourself. You feel,

500
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,919
Speaker 2: it's so freeing. I'm going to tell you it is

501
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,919
Speaker 2: so freeing to go to a different city or a

502
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 2: different country or whatever and just be be there, like

503
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 2: be on your own, exploring. You can do whatever you want.

504
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,879
Speaker 2: That was amazing. But then yeah, it's lovely to have

505
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 2: people come in and do the fun things together and

506
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,639
Speaker 2: like actually get to share the experience.

507
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Speaker 3: I like to share the experience.

508
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I prefer I think it's a lot more fun

509
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:03,399
Speaker 1: because you're also like I went in a day early

510
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 1: to London, and none of my friends were there, and

511
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,639
Speaker 1: so I was more inclined just to do nothing, Like

512
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 1: I saw some of the things that I like, and

513
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 1: I like, wasn't uncomfortable going to get food by myself

514
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 1: or going to buy things from my room or whatever.

515
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,199
Speaker 1: I find that I'm more inclined to just go have

516
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 1: a good time if I don't have to research things.

517
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,440
Speaker 1: And so me too, and I have I have friends

518
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 1: that like that is what they love to do. So

519
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 1: they know all the restaurants and bars that we need

520
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:34,919
Speaker 1: to hit, and I'm like, Okay, I'll be out all

521
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 1: fucking night, like all day, all night if I don't

522
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 1: have to figure out where I want to go.

523
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Speaker 2: I'm so that way. Like our friend group does have

524
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 2: a lot of planners. Everyone's a manager. So it's fine.

525
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:50,879
Speaker 2: But yeah, but it is helpful because they love to research,

526
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 2: they love to know where to go. I think it's

527
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,159
Speaker 2: good to have the mixes in the groups like me,

528
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 2: you and another friend of ours, Reagan, are kind of

529
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 2: more like, yeah, I'm down, let's go do it. And

530
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 2: then we have the planners and the people who are like,

531
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 2: we have to try this place, we should go here,

532
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 2: all of those things, and you kind of just need both,

533
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 2: like you need both options because it is. That's another

534
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,439
Speaker 2: topic I was going to bring up is the only

535
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 2: tricky thing about traveling with friends is like people are

536
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 2: different travelers. Traveling teaches you a lot about people, and

537
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Speaker 2: it could go real bad if you don't travel well together.

538
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 1: Yep.

539
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Speaker 3: Do you have any situations where that's happened to you.

540
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Speaker 1: I've definitely traveled with people where it's gotten to the

541
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Speaker 1: point where people have showed really true colors and at

542
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,439
Speaker 1: the end of the trip, the.

543
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 3: Trip wasn't the same.

544
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, the dynamic is, Yeah.

545
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Speaker 2: I travel really well with our friend group because first

546
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 2: of all, we're all very different, but I do think

547
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 2: we respect the differences and kind of know each other

548
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 2: so well at this point that you're like, that's just them,

549
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 2: let them go do their thing or whatever.

550
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 1: Where or you know, like that person's not getting up

551
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 1: for breakfast, We're just gonna go, you know that.

552
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Speaker 2: Sort of like certain people sleep in some people a

553
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 2: lazy morning. I'm one of them, and then other people

554
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 2: are like, get out of bed, get going. Yeah, So

555
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 2: you have to learn those dynamics. And then yeah, there's

556
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,160
Speaker 2: other people who I'm like, oh, I view a vacation

557
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 2: as like I either want to explore, but I also

558
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,159
Speaker 2: like want to come back rejuvenated, and I've worked really

559
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,439
Speaker 2: hard to be able to get to this place. Like

560
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 2: I've had experiences where when I got on the vacation,

561
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 2: I was exhausted coming off of like all the work

562
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:27,919
Speaker 2: I had tried to get done before, and I just

563
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 2: wanted to chill. And then other friends were like not

564
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,640
Speaker 2: in that mode, and so it wasn't like a match.

565
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,119
Speaker 2: I think it also just depends on where you're going,

566
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:37,880
Speaker 2: but like, yeah.

567
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 1: It depends on the trip. Like if you're going to

568
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 1: hike Machi Pichu, like that is not a vacation, that's

569
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 1: a trip, you know, so there's there're different things in it.

570
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 3: Like that sounds terrible to me.

571
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Speaker 2: So that's one instance where I'm like, see, I would

572
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 2: never go on that trip, but you might, but.

573
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Speaker 3: You shouldn't do that with me.

574
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Speaker 1: Correct. Correct.

575
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 2: I wanted to talk about travel because you know, this

576
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 2: podcast is obviously like we talked about a lot of

577
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 2: spiritual stuff, and I always want to.

578
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 3: Talk about the way that there's like growth.

579
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,639
Speaker 2: Mindset in everything and a learning experience in everything, and

580
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,640
Speaker 2: for me, travel truly is one of those biggest one

581
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 2: of the biggest experiences of that, Like I can leave

582
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 2: my house and go on a trip and I truly

583
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:34,120
Speaker 2: can come back changed. Like it's something about the experience.

584
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 2: It could be the people in that place. It could

585
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 2: be the actual place, Like if it's when I went

586
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 2: to Bali, for instance, obviously that's just a very spiritual place.

587
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,919
Speaker 2: I just got back from Guatemala, same thing, like it

588
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 2: was just a very spiritual feeling place. Or it could

589
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,640
Speaker 2: be the landscape. It could be the ocean, it could

590
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 2: be the.

591
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 1: Mountains, the minerals in the water.

592
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,959
Speaker 2: Yes, it's just and to me, it's that feeling of

593
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 2: when you get out in the world and realize how

594
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 2: big it is. It does seem to kind of bring

595
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 2: you to this place of there is something bigger than me,

596
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 2: there's a higher power. The shit that I'm worried about

597
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 2: on the day to day doesn't matter. When I'm depressed

598
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 2: about that breakup. Oh my god. There's billions of people

599
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,880
Speaker 2: in this world, so there's that are.

600
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 1: All experiencing the same pains and winds and all the things.

601
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 2: We just live in such a little small mindset and

602
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 2: when I travel, I'm just reminded of the bigger picture,

603
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,679
Speaker 2: which is a very spiritual experience for me.

604
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 1: It's funny when you when you were talking, you said,

605
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: it reminds me of how big the world is, and

606
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: I was going to say, it reminds me how small

607
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 1: I am, you know, because it's we are just a

608
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 1: speck of dust floating around in this universe. And it's

609
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: often funny too, because you know, as a kid that

610
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 1: grew up in a little bump fuck town in Virginia,

611
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 1: I had no concept until I finally went out into

612
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: the world that, like most places in the world kind

613
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: of look like where you live. Like, yeah, the architecture

614
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: is a little different, but like this place has mountains,

615
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: this place has beaches, this place has valleys, this place

616
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: has snow, but everything has its like unique charm to it.

617
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 1: It made me realize that, like, my world wasn't that

618
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 1: different than everyone else's world. So it made me feel

619
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 1: like I was a much more integral part of the

620
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 1: whole thing because I didn't feel so different from everyone

621
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: else in the world, even if we couldn't communicate, you.

622
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 2: Know, like I really understand that it's like a connecting

623
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 2: piece in some weird way that feels very e prey love,

624
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 2: by the way, what isn't it though?

625
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 3: Kind of?

626
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,719
Speaker 1: But you know, it's like, I think that most of

627
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: the fear that any of us possess about anything is

628
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 1: And I say this word with as much respect as possible,

629
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 1: because it sounds like such an awful word is from ignorance.

630
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: It's from just not knowing what we're scared of. And

631
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: most people will come into this world like happy and

632
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 1: healthy and wanting to spread love the end, but we're

633
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,479
Speaker 1: told that there's evil, and I think that's such a

634
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: small portion of what's truly out there that there is

635
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: nothing that I think could that could be more settling

636
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: than to just go explore the world and find that

637
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: out for yourself.

638
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting you say that about like the ignorance piece,

639
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 2: and again like I'm this goes to me too. I'm

640
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 2: not saying it to other people are calling other people ignorant.

641
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 2: But what was interesting? So I went to Guatemala and

642
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 2: that was such a lovely trips. But my boyfriend gave

643
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 2: me for Christmas. It was I've never been given a

644
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 2: gift like that, Like, it was just amazing and we

645
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 2: had the best time. But the interesting thing to me

646
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 2: was that when I would say where I was going.

647
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 2: We went to this place called Antigua in Guatemala, not Antique,

648
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 2: not the other Antigua over in the Caribbean. But everyone's

649
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 2: first thing was we'll be safe, be safe, right, because

650
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 2: you hear about Guatemala in you know, some stories as

651
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 2: dangerous and like things happen there. And I'm not saying

652
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 2: go be stupid at all, but I also want to

653
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 2: say to people, what do you think people think about

654
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 2: America right now?

655
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 3: Right?

656
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 2: But also like think about like when I went to Bali.

657
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 2: I was talking to some Australian women there and they

658
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 2: were like, what's happening with these school shootings?

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Speaker 3: Are you guys safe? And like, right, like.

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Speaker 2: We live every day with that threat and we don't

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Speaker 2: even like really think. I mean, I think we think

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Speaker 2: about it, but like we're still living in America, but

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Speaker 2: people are scared to travel here because they're hearing about this.

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Speaker 2: And it's the same in every country. I think there's

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Speaker 2: some obviously exceptions, and again you do need to research

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Speaker 2: like where you're, where you're going to be, and always

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Speaker 2: take precaution. And obviously I had a man with me,

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Speaker 2: which made me feel a lot safer, but there was

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Speaker 2: no moment in Antigue Iguatemala where I felt unsafe, notoa,

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Speaker 2: and it was beautiful and it was calm, and honestly

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Speaker 2: the energy was better than it is here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean you could put yourself in unsafe situations

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Speaker 1: in any town.

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Speaker 2: Well, right, go to Chicago, go to New Orleans, go

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Speaker 2: to any like Nashville's getting that way where there's a

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Speaker 2: lot of danger, And it's just like it's about being

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Speaker 2: smart and being aware and knowing too. I mean, sure

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Speaker 2: there are certain places where Americans are more welcome than

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Speaker 2: others too, so be aware. But I would just I

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Speaker 2: guess I just my point was thinking about that being

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Speaker 2: the first statement by anyone in my personal experience being

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Speaker 2: so completely different, and then thinking about how people must

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Speaker 2: be thinking about our country right now. You know, I

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Speaker 2: don't think that we've ever thought, oh, we have the

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Speaker 2: most dangerous country or anything, but we have a lot

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Speaker 2: of shit going down here right now. So anyway, I

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Speaker 2: just think it's interesting, and I just would say, don't

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Speaker 2: let that.

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Speaker 3: Hold you back.

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Speaker 2: Be very aware, do your research, talk to other people

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Speaker 2: who have been and know where to go and how

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Speaker 2: to stay safe and all that stuff. But like this

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Speaker 2: whole is it safe or whatever is not always accurate,

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Speaker 2: Like I do think that sometimes can get the media

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Speaker 2: is again responsible for playing certain things up that maybe

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Speaker 2: aren't exactly true.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's look when something is sensationalized, and

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Speaker 1: not to diminish you know, anyone going to Mexico or

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Speaker 1: whever and getting murdered, because that's awful, But a lot

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Speaker 1: of people, a lot more people go to Mexico every

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Speaker 1: day and have the best time ever. And there are

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Speaker 1: plenty of people that are being murdered in America every

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Speaker 1: day as well.

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Speaker 3: You're saying, we just hear about the world, We.

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Speaker 1: Hear about the sensationalized ones, and it makes it feel

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Speaker 1: like it's the whole country.

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Speaker 2: It was a little bit of a different topic on

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Speaker 2: the podcast this week, but I just felt like there

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Speaker 2: are ways that it can always be tied back into

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Speaker 2: spirituality growth mindset for sure, because seeing the world is

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Speaker 2: I don't know, there's so many lessons in that. Also,

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Speaker 2: the other thing that makes me so upset every time

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Speaker 2: I travel outside of the country is that I don't

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Speaker 2: speak more than one language. I know so many people

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Speaker 2: do in other countries, and you feel so ignorant for not.

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Speaker 1: Like we just fortunate that we speak the universal language.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it also makes us lazy.

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Speaker 3: Well, I did try, so.

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Speaker 2: I took two semesters of Spanish in college, and so

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Speaker 2: when I was in Guatemala, I would try, because I

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Speaker 2: find it to be disrespectful.

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Speaker 3: To not try.

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Speaker 2: Like I'm in their country, I should be not expecting

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Speaker 2: them to come to me to communicate. I need to

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Speaker 2: figure out I don't know, you know, just trying. I

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Speaker 2: mean I didn't do it perfectly at all. I do

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Speaker 2: not speak fluent Spanish, but just like I don't know

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Speaker 2: small words. Even for them to know that I was

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Speaker 2: trying to participate, like I'm not just sitting here being like,

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Speaker 2: you know, speak to me, like speak my language.

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Speaker 3: It just feels so entitled and gross.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: If you guys have any fun travel stories for us,

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Speaker 2: are cool places you think we should go travel, please

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Speaker 2: hit us up with that. We can always email us

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Speaker 2: at the Edge at velvetedge dot com or you can

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Speaker 2: hit me up on Instagram.

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Speaker 3: I'm at velvet.

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Speaker 1: Edge, Chip, I'm at chip doorsh It's Chip d r sch.

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Speaker 2: As you guys go into the week and you're living

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Speaker 2: on the edge, I hope you always remember.

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