1 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Saber. I'm Annie Rees and I'm 2 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: Lauren vocal Baum, and today we're talking about eggnog. Yep, yep. 3 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: I think we've mentioned several times on the show before 4 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: that one of our co workers, Alex, who was recently 5 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: on an episode food fairy Tale The Almond Tree. Yeah, yeah, 6 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: he played. He played the father character. Excellent. Oh yeah, 7 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: he was. He kept asking in the studio like, is 8 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: this too much? Am I too? We were like, no, 9 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: go further, keep going. We we wanted to see how 10 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: far he could go, and he did. He turned in 11 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 1: an excellent performance. Anyway, every year he makes eggnog um 12 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: a huge batch of it based on Martha Washington's eggnog recipe, 13 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: and it's so good it is and so boozy, so boozy. Yeah. 14 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: That was actually the first time I had last year. 15 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: What did you escape? I think in my family it 16 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 1: was very looked down upon and avoided. I remember specifically 17 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: going to like kind of an adult party where my 18 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: parents were at a party and kids were just there, 19 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: I guess, and there was eggnog and they were like no, no, 20 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: And I think that feel trained into my brain. And also, yeah, 21 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: how holiday jokes about how terrible it is. I don't 22 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: think i've ever heard this about this controversy over eggnog. 23 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: I feel like, I mean from that and I guess 24 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 1: I've read about it during this research, about it being 25 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: like a polarizing love it or hate it kind of drink. 26 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: But I didn't. I didn't know that. Like even folks 27 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: I know myself included, who don't usually like mixing like 28 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: cream and booze, enjoy a cup of eggnog? Really, when 29 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: was the first time you had it? Oh? When I 30 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: was a child. We had it with my My family 31 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: made it growing up around the holidays, so I remember 32 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: it as early as like five. Wow, I mean not 33 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: with booze in it, but sure. Just to clarify, yeah, 34 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: The Guardians Andrew Shanahan described it thusly in two thousand six. 35 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: People rarely get it right, but even if you do, 36 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: it still tastes horrible. The smell is like an omelet, 37 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: and the consistency defies belief. It lurches around the glass 38 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: like partially sentient sludge. But I like partially sentient sludge right, 39 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: It's some of my favorite sludge. Man. I watched The 40 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: Blob mere days ago, and I had a wonderful time. 41 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: I wonder, like I feel some people are just grossed 42 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: out by the idea of it, Like I've I've only 43 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: had eggnoged twice, right, But in my experience, it doesn't 44 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: smell like an omelet. It smells like cinnamon and boothe Yeah, 45 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: it smells like booze and maybe that mag Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, 46 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: it brings us to our question, egg what is it? Well, 47 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: it is almost ice cream kind of, yeah, except it 48 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: would be alcoholic ice cream. Although it doesn't have to 49 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: have alcohol, it does usually come with alcohol. Booze helps 50 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: keep away any microbacterial stuff you don't want in your insides. 51 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 1: The store bought stuff generally doesn't include alcohol. Once you 52 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 1: get at home, that's up to you. But yeah, eggnog 53 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: is a drinking custard. Um. If you cooked it, you'd 54 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 1: have pudding. If you froze it, you'd have ice cream. 55 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: Recipes vary, but basically you're looking at beating together eggs 56 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: more yolk than white and sugar than adding cream and milk, 57 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: and flavoring it with a dark booze like rum or bourbon, 58 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: plus a little bit of nutmeg. It's served cold. The 59 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: mixture is smooth. Slightly thick, sort of like those drinkable yogurts, 60 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: you know, And it tastes rich and creamy and sweet, 61 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: with a mildly warm kick from the booze in this spice. 62 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: It's it's sort of what you hope a milkshake would 63 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: be once it melted, but just never is. No milty 64 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: milkshakes always a letdown. It is. It is how eggnog 65 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: is made, though how well? Um, I mean, in factories 66 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: you mix those things together, You just make it. Yeah, 67 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: I mean you probably pasteurize it. Um a little bit 68 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: more on some of the other ingredients that would go 69 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: into factory made eggnog in a moment, but first um 70 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: at home. The recipe that you might use really depends 71 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: on what kind of eggnog experience you're looking for. Some 72 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: folks prefer a lighter dog made with more milk than cream. 73 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: As a warning, you should add booze to such a 74 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: dog slowly, as having less fat in the mix can 75 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: make it curdle. When you add in the alcohol. Just 76 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: you're changing the pH level. You're making those my CLLs 77 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 1: of the fat and protein molecules all clump up together. 78 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 1: So yeah, we've talked about that before in yogurt and 79 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: butter In various other episodes, add boot slowly to a 80 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 1: less fatty dog. Can add to slowly be a T 81 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: shirt if it's not already. We have the technology, so 82 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: many T shirt ideas. Okay uh. Some recipes will call 83 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: for heavy cream or egg whites or both to be 84 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: whipped into peaks to add a sort of fluff to 85 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 1: the drink. There are a lot out there. The good 86 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: ones will explain what texture you're going to wind up with, 87 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: but in general, most eggnog recipes want you to let 88 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: the drinks sit overnight so that the flavor is kind 89 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: of mellow and meld. But some folks insist that aged 90 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: eggnog is absolutely the way to go. Like mix it up, 91 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: keep refrigerated for a few days, a few weeks, a 92 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 1: whole year. My very favorite series Eats writer j Kenji 93 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: Loupez Alt ran a casual blind taste test of year 94 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 1: aged eggnog versus fresh eggnog and found that folks actually 95 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: liked the freshnog better. Um the aged stuff tasted boozier 96 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: and had developed flavors that were herbal or mint tea, 97 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: which are welcome and like in Tomorrow but tasted off 98 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: in the eggnog you think people would like. I mean, 99 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 1: I guess if you're not expecting mint, then it's not 100 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 1: the most pleasant thing. Unexpected meant meant another shirt, too many, 101 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 1: too many shirts. Uh. Other other researchers have reported notes 102 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 1: from a banana to pineapple to metal metal. So I 103 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 1: guess her results me very if you go out. Oh 104 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 1: my gosh, I can't let that pun go, Lauren, because 105 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: you've said notes and then you said metal and it's 106 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: a music pun. Oh oh, you totally meant to do it. 107 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: I know, I recognize the work of an artist. My 108 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: my brain, my brain. It just puts puns in without 109 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: even asking me. It's doing you a favor, it's doing 110 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: the world a favor. I'm not sure it's like for 111 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 1: me personally. That's sort of neutral. Depends on the situation 112 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 1: at any rate. Um, I'd say that if you are 113 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 1: going to age it, um to avoid some of those 114 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: off notes, consider mixing the dairy in after you have 115 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: aged it, when you're getting ready to serve it. Oh yeah, um, 116 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: And I'd say to start with to start with like 117 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: a three week aging, see how you like it, let 118 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: it go longer. If you want to go longer, stop 119 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: there if you don't, what a fun project, oh man, yeah, 120 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: for along with fruitcake, I've got a lot of cooking 121 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: to do. And if you do want to try that 122 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: long aged eggnog to handle a kind of booze forward 123 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: nature of it, you might want to treat it as 124 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: you would Bailey's um or you know, a liquor that's 125 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: a good mixer, but probably not something that you're going 126 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: to just like quaff a whole mug of straight Yeah 127 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: yeah um. Lopez Alto recommends long aging and then blending 128 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: fifty with fresh knog. I did find a lot of 129 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: articles about how there are some eggnog's meant for mixing 130 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: and some meant for drinking straight, and that you should 131 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: figure out which is which straight as in straight and 132 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:14,239 Speaker 1: mixing as in alcohol, uh, and other things. But you should. 133 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: There's a lot of experimentation out there for you. Oh yeah, yeah. 134 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: It's it's rife with possibility, it is. But it is 135 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: also rife with calories because if we look at nutrition, 136 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: traditional eggnog of the non alcoholic variety will run you 137 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 1: about four hundred calories a cup, and most of that 138 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: comes from saturated fats and cholesterol, and then when you 139 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: add in your alcohol and your sugar. Yeah, yeah, obviously 140 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: there are ways to lighten up your eggnog, but you know, moderation. 141 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: It's a special drink exactly, it's a treat. Numbers, wives numbers. Yeah. 142 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: Americans drink one thirty million pounds of eggnog during the holidays. 143 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: Pounds pounds. Yeah, do you have? US Food and Drug 144 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: Administration requires the supermarket stuff to contain one percent of 145 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: egg yolk. Just f y. If you've had only that 146 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: and think that you hate eggnog, you still might egg 147 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: might Try something else, all right, try the fresh stuff. 148 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: Um and yes. Like many things, the f d A 149 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: does define what eggnog is. It's under section one three 150 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: one point one seven zero of sub Chapter B. Well, 151 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: that's my favorite subsection. If you're looking for it, um 152 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: and yeah, it's officially a dairy plus egg yolk plus 153 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: sweetener food. The shell contain no less than six percent 154 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: milk that no less than eight point to five percent 155 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: other milk solids, and no less than one percent egg 156 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,839 Speaker 1: yolk solids by weight. Skimping on fat and eggs makes 157 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 1: the product cheaper and gives it fewer calories, but it'll 158 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: also make the texture um kind of off, kind of 159 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: two watery. Many store brands will contain stabilizers, thickeners, and 160 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: maybe some extra sweeteners to keep the mixture nice and 161 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: smooth and thick and heavy. Yeah, and there are a 162 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: lot of grocery store varieties. Um, there's a soy version 163 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:08,959 Speaker 1: and almond milk version, pumpkin of course, pumpkin spice. Yeah, 164 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: and like pumpkin spice, eggnog is a flavor now. Um, 165 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: you can find eggnog lattes and baked goods and coffees 166 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: and extract and syrup and hot chocolate and taffy eggnog, 167 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: t eggnog moonshine. Um. Three Olives just released an eggnog 168 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: vodka this October, just in time for the holidays. There 169 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: you go. If you're looking for a gift for that 170 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 1: person that you don't like so much in your life. 171 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. I haven't tried. It could be fine. 172 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: I did one thing I loved when I was looking 173 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: at why do people not like eggnog? A reason that 174 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: came up a lot is people don't like the word huh, 175 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: which is a great reason not to like. I love 176 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: the word eggnog. It's so silly. Yeah, it sounds like 177 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: a Lewis Carrol kind of word. Oh gosh. But you 178 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: know who is a big eggnog fan, Homer Simpson. He 179 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: used it instead of milk on his cereal and he 180 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: blames the US government on its small window of availability. 181 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: Oh Homer, Oh Homer. Oh, I mean that would be 182 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: a sugar bomb. You just went to a place. It 183 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: wasn't a nice one. Let's come back, come back, Annie, Okay, 184 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: let's come back. Let's give you a breather for just 185 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: a minute. Let's go to a quick break for a 186 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: word from our sponsor, and we're back. Thank you sponsor. 187 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: And are you back Annie, Yes, okay, I'm back now, okay, okay. 188 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 1: And this brings us back to our history bit. Yes, yeah, 189 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: And if you recognize some of it, if it sounds familiar, 190 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: that's because we talked about some of these history things 191 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: in our butter beer episode. Yeah, see that for even 192 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: more even more. Yeah. Um, and like this fictional food 193 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 1: that is now real food, butter beer, egg nog probably 194 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: descended from possets. Also fun to say this was a hot, 195 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 1: frofthy milk sort of ale like drink that was fairly 196 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: common in Brittain in the medieval times. According to the 197 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 1: Oxford English Dictionary, quote a drink made of hot milk, curdles, 198 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: ale line are the like, often sweetened and spiced. Sometimes 199 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 1: these passets were thickened with bread or oatmeal. And this 200 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: drink made you forget how cold and hungry you were, 201 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: or it made you appreciate just how richie were. The 202 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: wealthy fancied it up. They added cherry, high quality milk, eggs, 203 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: and they drink it for their health and prosperity. And 204 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 1: when they could, poor folks did too. It was seen 205 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 1: as a here for the cold and the flu, and 206 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: by the century records indicate monks for drinking a posset 207 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: of eggs and figs. It was considered sort of a carol. Yeah, 208 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: good food for the infirm. Yes, um. Now egg not 209 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 1: got all tangled up with the holidays. When it made 210 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: the journey with the colonist to the New World, Americans 211 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: had a lot of farms, they had a lot of 212 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 1: milk and eggs, and they also had access to a 213 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: lot of cheaper rum. This made the drink much more 214 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,719 Speaker 1: accessible than what they had going on in England. And 215 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: since it was still expensive ish thanks to spices, and 216 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: mostly spices, it was seen as a luxury drink reserved 217 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 1: for celebrations. And since it was cold in the winter 218 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: and there was no refrigeration, it was good for storage 219 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: to make it and have it in the colder months, 220 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: and the alcohol acted as a preservative as well. Eggs 221 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 1: might have also been more abundant in the fall, and 222 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: folks therefore might have been looking for ways to presume 223 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: of them for the winter. M hmm. And there were 224 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: and our other versions kicking around. Two of course, Mexico 225 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: had rom pope and in Puerto Rico they added coconut 226 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 1: milk to make coquit Tho brew uses piececo as the 227 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: base alcohol. There are a lot of different versions. But 228 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: what about that name, that name that some people apparently 229 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: here and are like, no, I do not like that drink. 230 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: We're not sure where it comes from. Actually, possibly it's 231 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: a riff on grog alah, egg and grog, which denoted 232 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: thick drinks um usually beer grog did or maybe nogg in, 233 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: which was a word for a wooden cup that enters 234 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: the record, the written record. Yeah, the term naggin meant 235 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: a small cup or a mug, and by the late 236 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: sixteen hundreds had developed to mean a small drink, like 237 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: a small serving of a drink. In Norfolk, England, there 238 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: was a maybe related slang word nog to mean strong 239 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: ale consumed from such small cups around that time, So 240 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: so me. Miriam Webster puts the first known use of 241 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: the word eggnog at seventeen seventy five, which the timing 242 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: does suggest that maybe it was an American invention. Who 243 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: knows mysteries of history, mysteries of history, but one history 244 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: non mystery. George Washington loved eggnog the recipe that we 245 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: keep mentioning it was not for the week of Heart 246 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: and legend says Washington thought only the bravest of souls 247 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: would sample his eggnog. I think that's silly, but share. 248 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: And I love this quote from the recipe. Let's set 249 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: in a cool place for several days, taste frequently. And 250 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: I made it last year after Alex made it, because 251 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: I was like, I've got to share this with everyone 252 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: I know. And I definitely followed that, like taste frequently, 253 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: I must, I should. The recipe says to I've got 254 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: to of note during the American Revolution, eggnog was pretty scarce. 255 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: The rum was replaced with moon shine because getting round 256 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: from the Caribbean was nearly impossible, and perhaps this scarcity 257 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: helped cement it as a celebratory drink could be. In 258 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: Baltimore during the nineteenth century, young men would go door 259 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: to door on New Year's Day, toasting folks with eggnog 260 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: along the way. We kind of talked about this in 261 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: our New Year's foods, uh, And it was seen as 262 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: a victory if you were still standing when you reached 263 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: the end of your route. As the drink spread throughout 264 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: the US, regions adapted the recipe to make it their own. 265 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: In the South, for example, they frequently replaced the rum 266 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: with whiskey and people really dug it. Uh. And this 267 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: love of eggnog led to the Eggnog Riot of eighteen 268 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: twenty six. I love any food that has a riot 269 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: named for it, I mean the eggnog Riot. This took 270 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: place at West Point Academy. It was a tradition for 271 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: the cadets to enjoy some spiked eggnog around the holidays. 272 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: In turn, new Superintendent Colonel Sylvanus Fair and we all 273 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: know that the new guy in charge wants to mix 274 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 1: things up, so he he makes a mark. He shows 275 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 1: I'm new and in charge. Well. He wanted to put 276 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: an end to all alcohol consumption, purchase, and storage of 277 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: alcohol at West Point, and the cadets did not like this. 278 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: They took to sneaking in alcohol, even crossing the Hudson 279 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 1: River for whiskey. Um Fair got the sense his rules 280 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 1: weren't being strictly followed, so he enlisted two cards to 281 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: keep an eye out for any suspicious activity. And there 282 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: was some suspicious activity on Christmas Eve. These guards keeping 283 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: an eye out, well, they saw something and this resulted 284 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: in fights, broken windows, broken banisters that were torn away 285 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:59,360 Speaker 1: from stairways. One drunk cadet tried to shoot his commanding officer. 286 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. Nineteen cadets were court martialed, eleven were expelled, 287 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: and an untold number of hangovers took place. Allegedly, at 288 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: least ninety cadets partook in the eggnog, including Jefferson Davis 289 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: the Eggnog Riot. To this day, West Point no longer 290 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 1: host a holiday celebration. Wow. I love this quote about 291 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: the incident from National Geographic. Luckily, eggnog these days seldom 292 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: leads to mayhem. That's great sometimes, but not often. Eggnog 293 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 1: remained popular with politicians too. An editorial from the Chicago 294 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: Press Interbune out of eighteen fifty nine, opened with this, 295 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: eggnog has ruled the country today. It is a famous 296 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: drink in public and private houses in Washington on Christmas, 297 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 1: and some of the members, in spite of it, reached 298 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 1: the house today at noon, and some in consequence of it, 299 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: did not get there at all. More than one article 300 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 1: from the time linked stabbings and altercations too too much 301 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 1: eggnog consumption. I don't think that's a property inherent in eggnog, 302 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: by the way, I scientifically speaking, I I suspect that 303 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: that's the booze factor. Not that's a pretty big leap. Lauren, 304 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 1: and I don't know you're right. More research needs to 305 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:28,199 Speaker 1: be done on the mayhem properties of eggnog. It did 306 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 1: take a hit during Prohibition, with folks wanting it um 307 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 1: all the more when they were told they couldn't have it. 308 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: Um Bottled eggnog without alcohol slowly started appearing on grocery 309 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,360 Speaker 1: shelves in the forties and fifties, and by the sixties, 310 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 1: the cold bottle stuff was pretty common, and that about 311 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: brings us to today just about. But I have one 312 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: more question that I wanted to answer here, and that is, 313 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 1: you're putting raw eggs in a thing? Is it safe? 314 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, Well I do, and we'll to that 315 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 1: answer right after we take one more quick break for 316 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: a word from our sponsor, and we're back. Thank you, sponsor, Yes, 317 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: thank you. And I remember when last year Alex was like, 318 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 1: who wants eggnog? He his email included a thing that said, 319 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 1: I know that it freaks some people out that salmonella 320 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: might be in there, but there's so much booze, don't 321 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: worry about it. And I didn't really even know what 322 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 1: eggnog was, and I didn't know I needed to be concerned. 323 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 1: But apparently this is a concerned people have. Well, most 324 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 1: recipes like that that Martha Washington recipe don't call for 325 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 1: you to cook your eggnog at all before serving, which 326 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 1: means you're drinking some amount of raw egg And you know, 327 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 1: salmonella is a thing that exists. But hey, al right, 328 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: first off, the rates of salmonella infection in eggs is 329 00:20:56,000 --> 00:21:00,040 Speaker 1: like really low, like one in twenty eggs, low in 330 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: the United States. That means that any given egg only 331 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 1: has a zero point zero zero zero zero five percent 332 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: chance of making you sick. Yeah, even with a huge 333 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: batch of noog, your chances of running into a bad 334 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 1: egg are infinitesmal. In the States. You can help keep 335 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 1: your chances down by keeping your eggs refrigerated while they're 336 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: still in their shells, and by keeping your nog in 337 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: the fridge once it's made too. Um, and the booze 338 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: does help. A couple of professors at Rockefeller University in 339 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: New York Korean an experiment back in two eight It 340 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: was on behalf of NPR Science Friday, but also the 341 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: microbiology department there had been making a six week aged 342 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 1: eggnog for its Christmas parties for like forty years running, 343 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: which I love. Um so uh. These professors got a 344 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: carton of commercial non alcoholic eggnog and then made a 345 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 1: batch of spiked eggnog, and then incubated samples of each 346 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: for twenty four hours at body temperature. After a day, 347 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: the store bought nog was a bacterial playground, and the 348 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: spike snog was sterile. Uh. Booze will kill stuff, It 349 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 1: will kill stuff. Um. They also did another experiment where 350 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: they added a dose of salmonella to their boozy eggnog 351 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: too to see what would happen. They cultured samples for 352 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 1: twenty four hours, for one week, and for three weeks. 353 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 1: The day and the week cultured samples were still contaminated 354 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: with salmonella, but the three week sample was sterile. Uh 355 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 1: yeah wow. Um. So you know, age diagnog is safer 356 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 1: than non age dignog um, and science advises that your 357 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 1: eggnog be about one fifth booze, approximately one point five 358 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 1: ounces of eight proof liquor per egg used. Science says, 359 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:52,199 Speaker 1: so yeah, we can't argue with that nor um. However, 360 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 1: if you are a loved one, are immunocompromised and don't 361 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 1: want to risk it, you can look into There's a 362 00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: bunch of different things you can do. You can look 363 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: into substitutes for regular role leggs. Um. You know some 364 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: stores sell pasteurized in shell eggs. Those cartons of egg 365 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 1: product that you find in the refrigerated case are pasteurized 366 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: as well. You can pasteurize your eggs at home by 367 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: carefully bringing them up to a microbe killing temperature without 368 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 1: cooking the eggs. That's really the tricky part in a 369 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 1: suvied situation that's a hundred and thirty one fahrenheight a 370 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: k A fifty five degrees celsius for two hours in 371 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: a pod water on your stovetop. It's about a hundred 372 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 1: and forty fahrenheight or sixty celsius four three to five minutes, 373 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: depending on the size of your eggs um. Or you 374 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 1: can use a recipe that cooks the custard before you 375 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: know you chill and serve it. Yeah. Yeah, there are options, 376 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 1: so many options. Yeah, keep yourself safe, drinks mcnog or 377 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 1: don't if you don't like it. Yeah, you really can't 378 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: tell you what to do. Yeah, no, no, you're your 379 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: fate is your own, y'all. There is no fate, but 380 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 1: no fate, but what we make O. Thank you terminator 381 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: to for providing us with so much wisdom. Yes, that 382 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 1: I continue to live by to this day. Yeah. We 383 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 1: hope that maybe we've turned some people around and they're 384 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: going to try some ignog um. And for those that 385 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 1: already like eggnog, we hope that we give you a 386 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: lot of annoying facts to annoy people with this holiday season, 387 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 1: whatever the case. And this brings us to listen yeah, 388 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: Brooke wrote, I heard you mentioned something short about ambrosia 389 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 1: salad at the end of the Nutmeg episode. I just 390 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 1: want to add that my mom always has to make 391 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: this salad every big holiday, but she never calls it 392 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: ambrosia salad. She ends up calling it idiot salad because quote, 393 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: any idiot can make it. It's a little insensitive, but 394 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 1: I can't help a smile when she mentions wanting to 395 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: make it. I like idiot salad. I might use that, Yeah, 396 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 1: as long as I don't want to insult you know 397 00:24:55,200 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: whoever made. But if I make it idiot salad, that's good. Yes, 398 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 1: my dad used to um. I think we discussed when 399 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 1: we briefly mentioned this that there are a very wide 400 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: variety of ambrosia salad recipes and minds. The one in 401 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: my family is essentially a fruit soup, like it's orange 402 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: juice and then oranges. The cons coconut pineapple. But my 403 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: dad used to like get a coconut and have a 404 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: hammer and a screwdriver and so that that's yeah, But 405 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: now it's just try a coconut. That's that's not idiot 406 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:33,199 Speaker 1: proof at all. No, I wouldn't do it. Coconuts are 407 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 1: dangerous they are. Sam wrote, I live in Scotland, so 408 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: I obviously don't celebrate Thanksgiving, and neither does anybody around me. 409 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: But even we get Black Friday. It's completely baffling to me. 410 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: But I really can't say no to all the sales 411 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: sweet potato with marshmallows, Thanksgiving specials of Friends, or the 412 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: Simpsons or Bob's Burgers on the TV. But most of 413 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: all the fact that, just like in the parts of 414 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 1: Canada where Thanksgiving is not a big deal, people put 415 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 1: up their Christmas decorations in November. All very confusing anyway. 416 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: As a vegetarian of nearly four years, I was surprised 417 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,199 Speaker 1: that I had never heard of satan here. The thing 418 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 1: that's most common is corn made from edible fungus, and 419 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: then there's also tofu. I mostly just omit all the 420 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 1: meat substitutes anyway, because why be vegetarian if you're just 421 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: gonna swap it for meat like things. I agree, personally, 422 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: I am pretty sure that I've eaten satan though, even 423 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 1: though I wasn't aware of it. I used to work 424 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,640 Speaker 1: in university halls of residence as a warden in charge 425 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 1: of student welfare, mental health issues, health and safety, etcetera. 426 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 1: And it meant that I would have to live in 427 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: the halls in a flat away from the students, but 428 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 1: still close enough that I could get to their rooms 429 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: in an emergency. So for the job interview, I was 430 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: invited over for dinner, and it was served in the 431 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 1: canteen with a meat option and a vegetarian option. I 432 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 1: walked in and all I could see was something which 433 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 1: was very clearly sausage on one side, and something which 434 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: was very clearly chicken on the other side. Because the 435 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: rest of the interview panel were a little late getting 436 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: into the dining room, this was enough time for me 437 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: to work myself into a full blown tizzy about the 438 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: whole situation. What was I going to eat? Did they 439 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 1: have it under the counter in a separate area, As 440 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: I'm sure you've guessed, The chicken was in fact not 441 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 1: actually chicken, but I was so freaked out by that point. 442 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 1: It had the same kind of grain of chicken and 443 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 1: the same kind of bite to it, which no other 444 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: meat substitute I've eaten before seemed to have. Was the satan? 445 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: Or did they just give me chicken and tell me 446 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,479 Speaker 1: it was vegetarian so I'd take the job as it happens. 447 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 1: The Thanksgiving episodes of pobs Burgers are definitely the best ones, 448 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 1: even though I don't see the appeal of the event itself. 449 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: It might be only seven thirty in the morning as 450 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: I write this, but who knows. Maybe Annie has already 451 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 1: started drinking. Happy Holidays, thank you. I do love how 452 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:46,679 Speaker 1: many people wrote and we're like, Annie, Oh you're already drunk. 453 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: It made me laugh out loud. That's beautiful. Maybe I was, 454 00:27:55,400 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: Maybe I was. But no problems to report on my 455 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: cooking side of things. Yeah, yeah, good, I'm glad. I 456 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 1: feel like I've gotten it pretty n Yeah. Yeah. I 457 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 1: didn't see anything on fire this year, so I'm pretty 458 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 1: proud of me too. It's always a win. I did 459 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: put a plastic tupperware container in the oven to try 460 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: to reheat it without thinking that it is plastic and 461 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 1: does not go into their but I caught it before 462 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 1: it totally melted. See. I think overall that's a huge success. 463 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: I do too. I hadn't really thought about how like 464 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: the TV marathons that we have Thanksgiving and how weird 465 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: that might be another country Okay, twenty four Hours of Friends, sure, whatever, whatever. 466 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: Always fun to hear from an international get an international perspective. 467 00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah yeah, So please keep those coming. Thanks 468 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: to both of them for emailing us, and we would 469 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: love for you to email us, and you can at 470 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: hello at savor pod dot com. 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