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Speaker 1: Wow, everybody, it is Wednesday, a four, nineteenth, twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, where we also

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Speaker 1: haven't made a decision on the number one pick to

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Speaker 1: be your man, MG, Marcus Grant and mostly whole again

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Speaker 1: this week. Thanks to Florio for sitting in and holding

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Speaker 1: it down last week while I was trying to play hurt.

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Speaker 1: And we're in studio, which means we got specialist today,

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Speaker 1: so give yourselves riding with class. Yeah, man, thank you

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Speaker 1: for you know, pitching, pitch in, filling in, pinch hitting,

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Speaker 1: all that stuff when I didn't really have much of

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Speaker 1: a voice the last week. Appreciate it, of course.

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Speaker 2: I'm just thankful that your voice is back, because driving

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Speaker 2: the show is a lot harder, and you make it

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Speaker 2: look insanely easy.

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Speaker 3: So I'm happy we're back to our normal roles today,

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Speaker 3: you know what, I'm glad to be back. It's nice

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Speaker 3: to be able to have a voice and not sound like,

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Speaker 3: you know, a puberty addle team. We also love cigars

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Speaker 3: or something like that.

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Speaker 1: So we are continuing our look around the NFL divisions,

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Speaker 1: trying to figure out some draft wants and needs. Today

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Speaker 1: we are head in South the AFC South and the

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Speaker 1: NFC South. So let's just dive right into it first

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Speaker 1: with the AFC South. As always, we are going in

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Speaker 1: alphabetical order with these, so we will start with Houston Texans.

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Speaker 1: They've got twelve total picks two in the first round.

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Speaker 1: They've got number two overall, and they have number twelve

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Speaker 1: which they got via the Cleveland Browns. Their team needs this,

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Speaker 1: according to Eric ed Holme, which you can find on

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Speaker 1: NFL dot com, a quarterback, a wide receiver, and an

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Speaker 1: edge rusher. And looking at some of the mock drafts

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Speaker 1: in the first round, Daniel Jeremiah has been taking CJ. Stroud,

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Speaker 1: the Ohio State quarterback at number two and going with

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Speaker 1: Miles Murphy the Claimson edge rusher at twelve. For Bucky Brooks,

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Speaker 1: he's got going Bryce Young at number two, which I

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Speaker 1: guess means that he's got CJ. Stroud going number one,

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Speaker 1: and then Jackson Smith and Jigba of the wide receiver

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Speaker 1: from Ohio State at twelve, so creating their own little

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Speaker 1: stack with a quarterback and wide receiver and Lance zer

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Speaker 1: Lines got them going Tyree Wilson at number two, the

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Speaker 1: edge rusher from Texas Tech, and then has them trading

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Speaker 1: up with the Raiders at number seven and taking quarterback

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Speaker 1: Will Levice. So I was looking at their roster and

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Speaker 1: looking at some of the guys they have there, and look,

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Speaker 1: nobody's predicting that the Texans are suddenly going to be

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Speaker 1: a you know, a super Bowl contender regardless of what

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Speaker 1: happens this year. But with some of the pieces they

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Speaker 1: have there, some of the moves they've made, if they

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Speaker 1: get a new quarterback, could they have some fantasy sleeper

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Speaker 1: appeal on that roster this year?

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Speaker 2: I very much so think so. And I did my

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Speaker 2: own personal mock for fun, and I had it going

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Speaker 2: the way that Bucky does with Bryce Young at two

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Speaker 2: and then Jackson Smith and Geeba at twelve. But even

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Speaker 2: if Bryce Young, who's getting more hype, goes one overall,

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Speaker 2: take Stroud and JSN and recreate what they were in college.

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Speaker 2: I think more and more teams are doing that, pairing

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Speaker 2: it's a really smart direction to go in. But this Texans' offense,

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Speaker 2: I think has a little bit more firepower than we

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Speaker 2: not us. But then a lot of people may realize,

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Speaker 2: like Dalton Schultz, is their tight end. He could be

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Speaker 2: a top a tight end one for fantasy. I think

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Speaker 2: Robert Wood's best days are behind him, but Nico Collins

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Speaker 2: is someone who has flashed a little bit. John Metchi

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Speaker 2: was their second round pick who didn't get to play

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Speaker 2: at all last year because of medical reasons. Noah Brown

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Speaker 2: had a little bit of hype. But I still think

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Speaker 2: they need their wide receiver one. So get that guy

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Speaker 2: at twelve, pair him with a young quarterback, and then

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Speaker 2: I haven't even talked about the running backs who obviously

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Speaker 2: Damian Pierce is someone that is fantasy relevant. So I

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Speaker 2: think they're Look, they're not gonna blow anyone away. They're

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Speaker 2: but they can be a lot better than what they

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Speaker 1: That's my thing. Actually, when you're looking at sort of

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Speaker 1: And the missing piece at the moment is the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I mean, as we sit here and talk right now

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Speaker 2: And even if it doesn't like this year, they'll they'll

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Speaker 2: take a step forward. But I think then if you

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Speaker 2: put one of the top quarterbacks on this offense, we're

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Speaker 2: talking about maybe in a couple of years, So a

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Speaker 2: dynasty perspective, this could be an offense that like is

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Speaker 2: fantasy friendly if Young or Stroud or whoever they take

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's some reasons to be interested. I

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Speaker 1: won't say excited, but at least interested in what the

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Speaker 1: Houston Texans could offer in twenty twenty three. That gets

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Speaker 1: us to the Indianapolis Colts nine total picks, one in

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Speaker 1: round one. That is the number four overall. Their needs

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Speaker 1: the first round, Daniel Jeremiah's got them taking Anthony Richardson

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Speaker 1: Lance's mox because he is not afraid to throw some

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Speaker 2: Maybe I've been of the mindset that I think the

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Speaker 2: Colts are gonna have to be aggressive if they want

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Speaker 2: by far the best quarterback still on the board, I

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Speaker 2: we know the team at four wants a quarterback, so

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Speaker 2: if you want a quarterback, you have to trade with

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Speaker 2: us right now to get him. I think the Colts

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Speaker 2: know we're bidding against their self kind of, but we

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Speaker 2: want to ensure we get that quarterback. Which is why

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Speaker 2: I continue to think the way that Lance is thinking, like,

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Speaker 2: if you're gonna have to make a move to ensure

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Speaker 2: you get that quarterback, why not get a twenty six

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Speaker 2: year old former MVP who you could build around. And

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Speaker 2: it's gonna cost you probably similar to what it would

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Speaker 2: I'd much rather have Lamar than Anthony rich and I

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Speaker 1: That's the thing. If you are going to have to

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Speaker 1: move up, right, you're probably going to have to give

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Speaker 1: up a couple of number one picks, certainly this year,

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Speaker 1: have to give up to Lamar Jackson. And you already

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Speaker 1: opposed to sort of hoping, you know, it's a mystery

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Speaker 1: box theory like this could be anything, even Lamar Jackson,

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Speaker 1: like at some point, you know, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: this as the Colts. They go out, they stay at

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Speaker 1: number four, they draft a quarterback, whether it's Richardson, whether

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Speaker 1: it's somebody else. Maybe they take Well Levis, who knows.

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Speaker 1: You know, they they put some decent places pieces in

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Speaker 1: that wide receiver. They've got Michael Pittman. You know, they

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Speaker 1: need to rebuild that offensive line from where it was

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Speaker 1: when Andrew luck was there. If they do add a quarterback,

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Speaker 1: does this mean we still have the same level of

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Speaker 1: faith in Jonathan Taylor to be a workhorse in that offense.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I think as long as it's either Lamar or

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Speaker 2: one of the top three quarterbacks, Like if it's Will Levis,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be souring on Jonathan Taylor. But I think

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Speaker 2: like the first two and young Oestraudle, there'll be an

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Speaker 2: upgrade on what the Colts had last year, which will

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Speaker 2: help create for Jonathan Taylor. And I think if they

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Speaker 2: have Anthony Richardson, that's just gonna create run options for

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Speaker 2: best friend is a rushing quarterback because it just makes

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Speaker 2: it so hard to defend both of them. But my

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Speaker 2: takeaway on Jonathan Taylor is like I think next year

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Speaker 2: who's the quarterback, because he was plagued by injury last season,

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Speaker 2: lower leg injury. I believe it was the offensive line

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Speaker 2: last year he was a victim of like everything around

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Speaker 2: him going wrong, where I don't envision it'll be that

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Speaker 2: on Jonathan Taylor, although I thought we would get a

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Speaker 2: the end of the season, when we were like putting

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Speaker 2: up poles and stuff, who's the top five running back?

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Speaker 2: Like Jonathan Taylor wasn't getting any love. But now in

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Speaker 2: Best Ball drafts, he's going as a top four running

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Speaker 2: back again, So like you're still you're not paying that

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Speaker 2: number one overall pick price, but you're still paying close

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I think people just sort of look

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Speaker 1: at the talent profile and realize that Jonathan Taylor is

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Speaker 1: too good to fall down very very far in that

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Speaker 1: as long as he's healthy, he's still going to get

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Speaker 1: a ton of touches. You know, last year only played

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Speaker 1: eleven games because of injury, but you know, still had

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Speaker 1: two hundred and twenty touches, which means he was over

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Speaker 1: twenty touches per game. Still gave you over a thousand

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Speaker 1: scrimmage yards. The touchdown numbers were a little bit down,

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Speaker 1: but I think people expecting that if he stays healthy,

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Speaker 1: his talent's good enough that he's going to continue to

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Speaker 1: be one of the top backs in the game, and

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Speaker 1: he's also one of the few guys that doesn't have

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Speaker 1: a lot of competition behind him in terms of touches.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, sort of something to kind of keep in

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Speaker 1: mind with him there. I mean, the Colts they have

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Speaker 2: Hunt said it the best. He's like, what can Anthony

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Speaker 1: Right, I mean, I just I can't imagine if you're

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Speaker 1: you want to go through another journeyman quarterback for a year, right,

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Speaker 1: because since you've lost Andrew Luck, You've had Jacobe Brissett,

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Speaker 1: isn't you know the guy put him in there, like,

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Speaker 1: let's see, let's give him a couple of years to

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Speaker 2: Gotta learn and sit and learn for a year. We

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Speaker 2: always point to the examples where that works, like Patrick

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Speaker 2: But for the most part, these rookies who aren't good

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Speaker 2: usually end up. It doesn't always work out if they

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Speaker 2: you were a team that had a proven quarterback and

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Speaker 2: in that, so like it would be a lot like

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Speaker 2: what are the Colts with Gardner Minshew? Maybe they get

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Speaker 1: I also think when you talk about those examples, let's

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Speaker 1: look at the guys that were ahead of those guys, yes, right,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't like Mahomes was sitting behind some kind of

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Speaker 1: different scenario. I mean, I'm looking at I'm looking at

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Speaker 1: passing touchdowns. So he was playing some really good football. Now,

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Speaker 1: minds you, it could be that the guy that was

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Speaker 2: The thing is, the Chiefs have won the AFC West

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Speaker 2: went twelve and four and ten and six.

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Speaker 1: Rox Smith at quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like like they're it wasn't like like you said.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't like the Colts aren't gonna be winning their

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Speaker 2: division and winning twelve games with Gardner Minshew, that's just

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Speaker 2: not gonna have.

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Speaker 1: Just not gonna happen. Uh. The team that could win

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Speaker 1: you know, I should have done my research. I don't

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Speaker 1: know when's the last time the Jags have picked this

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Speaker 2: It's probably, uh the year with Blake Bortles where they

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Speaker 2: they went to like the ASEN Championship game. That probably

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Speaker 2: is it, right, might that might be.

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Speaker 1: The last time they've picked this deal which.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't feel like that long ago, but was like eight

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Speaker 1: Uh so in the first round, they're late their needs.

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Speaker 1: They need a corner, an offensive tackle, they need a

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Speaker 1: defensive end. Now, all in all the mocks, at least

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Speaker 1: the the major box on NFL dot Com, they are

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Speaker 1: slated to go defensive. They DJ hasn't taken Deontay Banks

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Speaker 1: the corner from Penn State. So obviously the idea is

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Speaker 1: that they want to focus on the defensive side of

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Speaker 1: the ball. Makes a lot of sense. And so that

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Speaker 1: leads me to the question, do the Jaguars possibly have

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Speaker 1: too many weapons on offense for our liking? Not in

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Speaker 1: real football, but in fantasy football.

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Speaker 2: It is definitely a possibility that that ends up being

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Speaker 2: the case. Like I think it could go one of

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Speaker 2: two ways, where it's like the targets are extremely funneled

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Speaker 2: through like Calvin Ridley and Christian Kirk, and then Evan

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Speaker 2: that you could start in fantasy and Jay Jones is

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Speaker 2: more like an afterthought. Or it could just be like

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Speaker 2: they spread the ball like crazy and week to week

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Speaker 2: it's a guessing game. But either way, it makes me

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Speaker 2: want to draft Trevor Lawrence for fantasy. The weapons I

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Speaker 2: don't know about, Like I know you have to pay

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Speaker 2: the highest price to get him, but like Calvin Ridley

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Speaker 2: he'd be able to put up numbers in this offense.

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Speaker 2: The others like Jay Jones, Like I know, for much

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Speaker 2: of his career he's just been Jay Jones, but like

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Speaker 2: last year, Zay Jones was really good, especially down the stretch,

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Speaker 2: Like I was starting him in championship week in multiple

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Speaker 1: Yeah. By the way, I went and looked. The last

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Speaker 1: time the Jaguars are this deep in the draft twenty eighteen,

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Speaker 1: they picked Tavian Bryan at twenty ninth and that was

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Speaker 1: coming off that AFC championship year. They beat the Bills

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Speaker 1: Divisional and then they lose that heartbreaker to the Patriots

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Speaker 2: That's Steelers Jack's game. As look, I remember the Bills

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Speaker 2: went very vividly. It was a terrible game.

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Speaker 1: Ten to three was thea it was.

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Speaker 2: It was bad, but that Steelers game was so much

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Speaker 2: because there was like ab and young Juju were balling

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So yeah, twenty eighteen, so it's been a while.

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Speaker 1: It has been a little while since the Jags have

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Speaker 1: gone this deep in a draft. I'm with you, though,

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Speaker 1: I think I think, you know, look, we're going to

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Speaker 1: this does help Trevor Lawrence a ton in terms of

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Speaker 1: I think all these guys can be productive, but I

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Speaker 1: don't think we're gonna draft them. Uh maybe at a

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Speaker 1: fantasy drafts. Last team in the AFC south of Tennessee

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Speaker 1: Titans six total picks one of the first round. They

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Speaker 1: are at number eleven. They need an offensive lineman, they

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Speaker 1: In the first round, two of the three big ones

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Speaker 1: have them taking Jackson Smith and Jigba. That is the

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Speaker 2: It would take a lot of shine off of him.

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Speaker 2: Like I know myself and many others have him as

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Speaker 1: Would be it.

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Speaker 2: Like the Titans might be the worst roster in football.

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Speaker 2: As of right now, my strategy with the Titans is

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Speaker 1: So I'm looking at the offensive pieces right and like,

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Speaker 1: it's not me when somebody you know gets you excited.

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Speaker 2: who would give you like thirty yards but like his

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Speaker 2: guy can play. But my thinking right now because I

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Speaker 2: Titan I would draft right now because you could get

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Speaker 2: short passes to Berks to a Conquo and let Derek

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Speaker 2: Henry do his thing.

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Speaker 1: So there are also rumors that the Titans could be

435
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Speaker 1: in the market for a quarterback, maybe drafting somebody. You know.

436
00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,760
Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill is nearing the end of his career. His

437
00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,680
Speaker 1: time is getting short there in Tennessee. You mentioned Blik

438
00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,719
Speaker 1: Willis last year did not look ready to step in

439
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,240
Speaker 1: and be a full time starter. I mean they were

440
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Speaker 1: running Josh Dobbs out there at some point, just to

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Speaker 1: kind of get some stability. Are you believing that Tennessee

442
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Speaker 1: could possibly make a move at quarterback in this offseason.

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Speaker 2: I think they could if say like Lewis or Richardson

444
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,439
Speaker 2: fell to them. I don't think they're gonna give up

445
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Speaker 2: draft capital to move up because I really think they

446
00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,720
Speaker 2: have their eyes on Caleb Williams Prize or the May

447
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,520
Speaker 2: Prize maybe, But like, I think this is a team

448
00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,920
Speaker 2: that knows, hey, this is not our year. We could

449
00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,880
Speaker 2: potentially go out it next season again. But I think

450
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Speaker 2: that this is Ryan Tannehill's Matt Ryan season. Like at

451
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Speaker 2: thirty five years old, it's his final year in his contract.

452
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Speaker 2: I don't know if he survives the season with the team.

453
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Speaker 2: I think this is his last full year with the Titans.

454
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Speaker 2: But I could see them just being like cause they

455
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Speaker 2: cut a ton of people and didn't bring in whole bunch.

456
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Speaker 2: To me, it really feels like they're hitting reset and

457
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Speaker 2: they're keeping their eyes on next year.

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Speaker 1: I know Peter Schrager in one of his mocks, had

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Speaker 1: the Titans taking Hindon Hooker so he would stay in

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Speaker 1: stay going from the University of Tennessee to the Tennessee Titans.

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Speaker 1: It feels like Cooker at eleven though, is really early.

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Speaker 2: They'd have to I continue to think that a team

463
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Speaker 2: like I think the Commanders are one the Titans certainly

464
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Speaker 2: makes sense, like a team that maybe has some capital

465
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Speaker 2: could trade back to like twenty eight, twenty nine, something

466
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Speaker 2: in that range and take Hooker for that fifth year option.

467
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Speaker 2: But at eleven, you're leaving a ton of value on

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Speaker 2: the board.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it just it just doesn't make sense at eleven.

470
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Speaker 1: But I, you know, I wouldn't be surprised if maybe,

471
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Speaker 1: you know, matter, maybe they trade back. You can pick

472
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Speaker 1: up some more picks somewhere along the way, and then

473
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Speaker 1: I could see them taking hindon Hooker. I just don't

474
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Speaker 1: I don't see that happening at eleven. But man, this

475
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:59,120
Speaker 1: offense it's bleak, bleak right now. So we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 1: I will say this, if JSN lands there and they

477
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Speaker 1: don't do anything at quarterback, yeah, really gonna be disappointing.

478
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,719
Speaker 2: And to just show everyone how short life spans are

479
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 2: in the NFL, this was the number one seed in

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Speaker 2: the AFC two seasons ago.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, life fast, It happens that way, what else is

482
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Speaker 1: coming out? As fast a quick break, We'll come back

483
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Speaker 1: and talk about the NFC South, go through the four

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Speaker 1: teams in that division and give us and give you

485
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Speaker 1: our draft once and needs for those teams. Let's coming

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Speaker 1: up next here on the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, diving

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Speaker 1: into the NFC South. We'll start with the Atlanta Falcons.

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Speaker 1: Seven total picks, one in the first round, that is

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Speaker 1: number eight overall. Their needs are an edge rusher, a cornerback,

490
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Speaker 1: and a wide receiver. Personally, I would throw quarterback into

491
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Speaker 1: that mix, but you know, let's given Gus been rid

492
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Speaker 1: of his opportunity to make something happen here. The first

493
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Speaker 1: Mox Daniel Jeremiah and Lance Zerline both have the Falcons

494
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Speaker 1: going with Christian Gonzales the cornerback from Oregon. Bucky has

495
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Speaker 1: been taking an edge rusher Lucas van Ness from Iowa.

496
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Speaker 1: And I looked at the Falcons as a whole, and

497
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Speaker 1: you know, everybody who listens to the show knows how

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Speaker 1: we feel about Kyle Pitts and or Drake London. You know,

499
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Speaker 1: they were able to put together a decent running game

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Speaker 1: simply because that was what they love to do. And

501
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Speaker 1: tried to do and I mentioned the quarterback, it was like, yeah, whatever,

502
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Speaker 1: But as you look at the falcons right now, I mean,

503
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Speaker 1: how do you feel about this offense for fantasy is

504
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Speaker 1: currently constructed.

505
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Speaker 2: I probably like it more than I should like because

506
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 2: it's all relative to costs. Like I thought that Tyler

507
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:52,119
Speaker 2: Ralseiar would be going much earlier than he is. He's

508
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 2: in early ADP. I believe he's not even a top

509
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Speaker 2: twenty four running back. So if you're getting him as

510
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Speaker 2: an RB three, I love that, or maybe you're waiting

511
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Speaker 2: grabbing him as an RB two. Drake London is going,

512
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Speaker 2: I think like at an appropriate price. He's not a

513
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Speaker 2: top twenty receiver, but after that, I think he has

514
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 2: the upside where you want to take him there. Kyle

515
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Speaker 2: Pitts is going as like I believe the fifth or

516
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 2: sixth tight end off the board, which I'm like, yeah,

517
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Speaker 2: you're paying more than the floor is, but you're not

518
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,719
Speaker 2: paying as high as the ceiling is. And then Desmond

519
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 2: Ritter is like the thirtieth quarterback off the board I

520
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 2: think in Underdog ADP right now or something like that.

521
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 2: So at cost, I think they're all fine as a

522
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 2: whole offense I still don't like that Arthur Smith is

523
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 2: running the show here because I'm very scared that he's

524
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Speaker 2: gonna make it look a lot like what it looked

525
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 2: like last year, which was just running the ball, playing

526
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,679
Speaker 2: really playing ugly football and trying to squeak out wins.

527
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Speaker 2: But I do think there's a lot of talent here.

528
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Speaker 2: This is a team that we both have said plenty

529
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 2: of times like they should be knocking on the door,

530
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Speaker 2: kicking the door down if they have a chance at

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Speaker 2: lamar because I think there's a lot of skill on

532
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Speaker 2: this offense, a lot of talent.

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Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of time. I mean, Tyler

534
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 1: al Jeers showed last year that he can be a

535
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Speaker 1: productive running back. You know, we have talked ad nauseum.

536
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Speaker 1: I'm sure people are sick of us talking about how

537
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 1: much we still love Kyle Pitts and Drake London. I mean,

538
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Speaker 1: you know, I know Dwayne McFarlane who does a lot

539
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 1: of great analytics work, sort of with breaking some of

540
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 1: these guys down into tears the second year wide receivers,

541
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Speaker 1: and you know he said that he in his research

542
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 1: really has Drake London just slightly behind guys like Garrett

543
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 1: Wilson and Chris Olave and you know, there's no doubt

544
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Speaker 1: that people love those two guys, and for London to

545
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: be kind of knocking on the door with them says

546
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 1: a lot about what his potential is. He just needs

547
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Speaker 1: to be in an offense that's going to actually feature

548
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Speaker 1: him and utilize his skills. So hopefully that happens. I mean,

549
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Speaker 1: I like what they have to offer, and I do

550
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Speaker 1: think it's just an issue of will they have a

551
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Speaker 1: head coach or a play caller that is able to

552
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Speaker 1: maximize what their abilities are. Otherwise it's going to be

553
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Speaker 1: another year of us being frustrated, in another year of

554
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,360
Speaker 1: the general public looking at us and being like, why

555
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 1: are you guys harping on this? Kyle Pitts, Dude, I

556
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,880
Speaker 1: don't understand it, but I'm sort of with you. I

557
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 1: like the pieces. I think that the pieces individually though

558
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 1: right now, are greater than the sum of their parts,

559
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 1: just because they haven't figured out how to use these

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Speaker 1: guys this year or last year.

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Speaker 2: And just on the Kyle pittsting real quick, like sixty

562
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 2: percent of his targets last year were deemed uncatchable. I've

563
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 2: said it on the show before, but like he could

564
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 2: have been Jerry Rice and sixty percent of his targets

565
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 2: would have been uncatchable, like he when he got hurt.

566
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Speaker 2: He had fourteen targets to twenty plus air yards. No

567
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 2: other tight end had double digits. He had one catch

568
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Speaker 2: on those. Because Marcus Mariota was the worst outside of

569
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Speaker 2: Zach Wilson, the worst court Like, I don't even think

570
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 2: he should be a backup quarterback. He played that poorly

571
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Speaker 2: last year, So I don't think Desmond Riddard could be

572
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Speaker 2: any worse.

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Speaker 1: I hope not. I guess. The other thing to contend

574
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:55,679
Speaker 1: with is that John Whu Smith is now there too,

575
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 1: and yeah, I'm curious how the two of them are

576
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Speaker 1: going to be able to coexist. You know, this is

577
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 1: the time of year where rumors run wild on social media,

578
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 1: and I don't know if it was a mock or

579
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 1: just chatter, but somebody mentioned the idea of Bijon Robinson

580
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 1: going to Atlanta, and that would be great for Bijon

581
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,640
Speaker 1: because he would probably get three hundred carries. It would

582
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 1: be bad news for the pass catchers because Arthur Smith

583
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: would never.

584
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Speaker 2: Throw the football. No, yeah, he would not at all.

585
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Speaker 2: And the thing that you said about Drake London like

586
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 2: being that close, like I had him last year was

587
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 2: my number one. Whatt Wilson outperformed Crystal Lovey outperformed him.

588
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 2: But I still think Drake London is could be very.

589
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,239
Speaker 1: Very good. He was going to be my He was

590
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: my top rookie wide receiver going into last year and

591
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 1: just circumstances sort of didn't work out. But I still

592
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:53,719
Speaker 1: believe him. That's that's fine. The Carolina Panthers next up,

593
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 1: maybe know they've got six total picks, so we know

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Speaker 1: they have the number one overall pick, which came uh

595
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Speaker 1: via the Chicago Bears in a trade. They need a quarterback.

596
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 1: Most surprise, they need an edge rusher and a wide receiver.

597
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: All three guys, Daniel Jeremiah, Bucky Brooks, Lance Zerline have

598
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: them taking a quarterback for DJ and Lance. It's Bryce

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00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: Young for Bucky at a CJ. Stroud. Simple question with

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Speaker 1: what the Panthers have if they draft a quarterback. When

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Speaker 1: they draft a quarterback, is that player draftable in twenty

602
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: twenty three.

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Speaker 2: Redraft leagues as a backup and like a lower end backup,

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Speaker 2: I would say, like not cracking the top twelve, I

605
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 2: wouldn't even say top fifteen, but after that, I think

606
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 2: there's upside in the unknown, especially because while neither one

607
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 2: of them, Young or Stroud ran a whole bunch in college,

608
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 2: they have the capability of doing so. We've seen each

609
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 2: of them do it when they have to, so I

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Speaker 2: think as a backup because again just the unknown upside,

611
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Speaker 2: But I would also like to see them as I

612
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Speaker 2: think they did a good job of like adding reliable

613
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Speaker 2: pieces around them, but they don't have like a true

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Speaker 2: difference making weapon. I would say.

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Speaker 1: That's sort of the thing, right, they don't have that big,

616
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Speaker 1: big time playmaking weapon. I think. I think you're gonna

617
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Speaker 1: see him whoever this is, whether it's Young or Stroud

618
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 1: or you know, if there's a wild card Anthony Richardson,

619
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Speaker 1: that player is going to get a lot of love

620
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,479
Speaker 1: in Dynasty rookie mocks. I don't think they're gonna get

621
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Speaker 1: as much love when it comes to re draft leagues, because,

622
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Speaker 1: as you mentioned, this is an offense that they've kind

623
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Speaker 1: of put together a collection of pieces, right. It's it's

624
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Speaker 1: it's not quite the end of the month fridge where

625
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Speaker 1: you're trying to make a meal out of whatever you

626
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: have left. It's a little bit better than that, but

627
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Speaker 1: not by a lot, right. I mean you're looking at

628
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: you know, right now you're top wide receiver. After you

629
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Speaker 1: know you do go and if you add Adam Thielen,

630
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Speaker 1: right now you add DJ Chark. I mean they're not

631
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 1: bad pieces, but they're not you know, eye popping, eye

632
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Speaker 1: catching pieces right tight end. You're looking at with yet

633
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: Aiden hayden Hurst in free agency, you go out and

634
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: you you pick up a Miles Sanders in free agency.

635
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: So it's they're average, maybe slightly above average, but not enough.

636
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Speaker 1: I think to elevate a quarterback, a rookie quarterback making

637
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: his debut, who do you think will go number one? Young,

638
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: Stroud or someone else. I think it's gonna be Stroud.

639
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 1: I know that the I know the the consensus has

640
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 1: sort of shifted toward Bryce Young a little bit, but

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Speaker 1: I don't know I have seriously, I think Bryce Young

642
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: should be the number one pick. I think CJ. Stroud

643
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: will be the number one pick.

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Speaker 2: I agree with you, and I think a lot of

645
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 2: the whole then, I don't know why teams at number

646
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 2: one feel like they need to put out smoke screens.

647
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Speaker 2: No one can control what you do, right, like you're

648
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 2: the ones that are in the driver's seat. But teams

649
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 2: still always like to throw out these smoke screens and

650
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 2: make it seem like, oh, we still haven't decided. No,

651
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 2: you guys have known for a while. I feel like, like,

652
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 2: I don't think you make that move for number one

653
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 2: if you have no idea who you're gonna take. And

654
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 2: right after they made that move, the way that they

655
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 2: their brass was with CJ. Stroud was, I was like, yeah,

656
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 2: he's the guy. But maybe I'm wrong.

657
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: I think. I mean, I think some of the reasons

658
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 1: you see that is just in case somebody wants to

659
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: throw out a crazy offer, right if there's if there's

660
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: a team that absolutely wants a guy, right like maybe

661
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: there's somebody that absolutely positively needs to have Bryce Young,

662
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: then you know, maybe you just throw that out there

663
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: and see somebody you know, you're like, hey, we wanted CJ.

664
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: Stroud anyway the whole time, you know, something like that,

665
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 1: like if you could get the Texans.

666
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 2: Maybe to give you a little something to hope, and

667
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 2: you still get your guy.

668
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, I think I think that's the

669
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: reason for sort of doing that. But I don't other

670
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: than that, there's no way they're moving past three. I

671
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: would say, I can't imagine. So right, you need a quarterback.

672
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: You've got to leave yourself in position to still get

673
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: one of the top quarterbacks out there one hundred. So yeah,

674
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: I think I think the Panthers are sort of building something.

675
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: Potentially the quarterback's going to be the foundation of it.

676
00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: But I think you're gonna see them sort of make

677
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: a lot of in the next few years because they

678
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: got to get younger, and they got to get they

679
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: got to get more talent. I think they get higher

680
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: level talent than they currently have in a lot of

681
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 1: their skill positions. There. The New Orleans Saints eight total picks.

682
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: One of the first round. They have number twenty nine,

683
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: which came from San Francisco, which came from Miami, which

684
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: I believe came from Denver. This pick has sort of

685
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: been passed around quite a bit in the last the

686
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: last few months or so. They need defensive linemen, they

687
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: need a tight end, they need an offensive lineman. In

688
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: the first round, both DJ and Bucky have the Saints

689
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: taking Michael Mayer the tight end out of Notre Dame.

690
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: Lance has been taking Kalijah Kansi the defensive tackle from Pitt.

691
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: I don't even know what to say about the Saints

692
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: really other than like it's like they've put together this group.

693
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: We love Chris Olave, Derek Carr kind of is who

694
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: he is. I mean, I don't know, does adding a

695
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: tight end potentially do anything for you? I feel like

696
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 1: this is an offense that just like it just kind

697
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: of is.

698
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 2: I don't think it does, because, like you you see

699
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 2: all the time, oh, they need a tight end. So

700
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 2: like I was like, yeah, Michael Mayer makes a ton

701
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 2: of sense, but then you look at their depth chart

702
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 2: and Juwan Johnson they just paid, and I think Jawan

703
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 2: Johnson's a better tight end than he gets credit for.

704
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 2: Like he was a really good red zone piece for them.

705
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 2: He really showed out as the year went on. Adam

706
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 2: Troutman is like your number two blocking tight end, and

707
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 2: then Taysom Hill is your wild card at that position.

708
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 2: So I don't know if they need a tight end.

709
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 2: I'll say it like this, with a deep tight end class,

710
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 2: I don't think their need for a tight end is

711
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 2: worth using their first round pick on it. I think

712
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 2: they would be better suited to go defense, which is

713
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 2: also why I've circled the Saints as the team that

714
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 2: if any team wants to trade back into Round one

715
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 2: to take Hendon Hooker. I think the Saints are the

716
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 2: team that will trade their pick.

717
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 1: I think that makes a lot of sense. Yeah, I

718
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: just I don't know. I look at this offense and

719
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 1: it's it just is right. There's nothing about it that

720
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: blows me away.

721
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 2: A huge hole or need.

722
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,919
Speaker 1: But there's no like right but for Chris a Lobby, there's

723
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: nothing that's like, yeah, man, I gotta I gotta make

724
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,240
Speaker 1: sure I draft this guy. I mean, we're still waiting

725
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,240
Speaker 1: to see what happens with Alvin Kamara. We're all expecting

726
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: he's going to serve a suspension of some length. You know.

727
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 1: They add Jamal Williams, which is sort of nice. You know,

728
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: we have no idea how much Michael Thomas has left

729
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 1: in the tank after missing an extended period of time.

730
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: It just it's just kind of there. As an offense.

731
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 1: There's nothing that's gonna get a lot of folks really excited.

732
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 2: Like I'm like, oh, I'll take Michael Thomas. But it's

733
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 2: all relative to where his ad is not. It's not

734
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 2: like I'm like pounding the table for Michael Thomas.

735
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I mean I think that's that's sort of it. So,

736
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:45,240
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. I literally, as I'm putting

737
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: down questions for all these teams, like the Saints for

738
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: the one I left blank because I looked at it.

739
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: I looked at it for a long time, and I'm like,

740
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: I don't even know what to say about the New

741
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:54,240
Speaker 1: Orleans Saints at this point.

742
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're They're one of those teams where I'm like, yeah,

743
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 2: they're probably gonna win their division and then get bounced

744
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 2: in the first and I could see that being their

745
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 2: ceiling for as long as they keep this brass together.

746
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm looking at this. I mean, right now,

747
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: I guess the Saints probably are the favorite to win

748
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: the NFC South.

749
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 2: But this says more about the division.

750
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,720
Speaker 1: Right, I mean, if the Falcons somehow put together a run,

751
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: it wouldn't surprise me if the Bucks somehow squeaked it

752
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: out although their quarterback situation.

753
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 2: If Tom Brady was like, Hey, you know what, I

754
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:26,879
Speaker 2: want to come back and play for the Bucks, I'm

755
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 2: picking them to win the division.

756
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean exactly. Just there's nothing about this division

757
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: that's going to be exciting I think this year. But

758
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: that leads us to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, the last

759
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 1: team on our list for the Day nine total picks

760
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: one of the first round, number nineteen overall. They need

761
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 1: an offensive lineman, a safety, and a defensive lineman in

762
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: the first round. Though Daniel Jeremiah has been taking Will

763
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 1: Levice the quarterback out of Kentucky, Bucky has been taking

764
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: Darnell Right, offensive tackle from Tennessee, and Lance has been

765
00:36:55,960 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 1: taking Nolan Smith, the edge rusher from Georgia. So we

766
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: just sat here and talked about how uninspiring this division

767
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: is as a whole, and the Buck's very much a

768
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 1: part of that. What is your excitement level for drafting

769
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 1: any Bucks players this year? Keeping in mind, at least

770
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 1: as we talk, Kyle Trask is going to be their

771
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:17,919
Speaker 1: starting quarterback this year.

772
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 2: I was gonna say we ran out of team needs space.

773
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 2: I think because quarterbacks should be on that list, running

774
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 2: backs should be on that list.

775
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:29,240
Speaker 1: Like, hey, Rashad White says he's a stud, and I think.

776
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 2: Rashad White is a capable running back. I think he

777
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 2: gets over hyped by the fantasy community. But I also

778
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:41,320
Speaker 2: think that like whether it's Kyle Trask or Baker Mayfield.

779
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 2: I have zero excitement to draft any of these players,

780
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 2: like Leonard Fournette, lash or Rashad White, whichever one you

781
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 2: liked better in fantasy. They were as good as they

782
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 2: were in fantasy because of all the dump offs they

783
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,879
Speaker 2: got from Tom Brady. I don't know if we're gonna

784
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 2: get that again. At least Tom Brady was able to

785
00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 2: keep Chris Godwin and Mike Evans useful for fantasy. Kyle

786
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 2: Trask is a complete unknown, and Baker Mayfield has struggled

787
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 2: with receivers his whole to elevate receivers his whole career.

788
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm not very excited at all. The only

789
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 2: one I guess right now that I would say, like

790
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 2: Chris Godwin, but he still goes in like the fourth round,

791
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 2: so you're paying a pretty hefty price to get him.

792
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 2: So I likely am gonna have very little shares of

793
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 2: bucks this season.

794
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 1: There's also still that thought that, you know, maybe Godwin's

795
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 1: not there. At the start of the year, I mean

796
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 1: that had been sort of some talk that either Godwin

797
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: or Evans could be traded, you know, so that also

798
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: sort of makes it I don't know, just kind of

799
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: dicey at this point. So, you know, I'm not fired

800
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 1: up about the Bucks. I am not necessarily big on

801
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 1: Rashad Wide, at least not compared to a lot of

802
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 1: other people.

803
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,879
Speaker 2: Same. He's like, you look at his metrics, he's very

804
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 2: at Like again, I think he's a serviceable running back

805
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 2: who gets way too over heights because people liked him

806
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 2: coming out.

807
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: Ye know, I threw out the question on this show

808
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, maybe a little longer than that.

809
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: It's like, is this the year that Mike Evans streak

810
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: of a thousand yards end?

811
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 2: I think?

812
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: So, you know, he got eleven hundred last year. There

813
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 1: are a couple of years where he just barely got

814
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 1: over a thousand yards. Yeah, I mean, it just there's

815
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 1: just not a lot to be excited about Wonard Fournette's

816
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: you know out. I don't know, I just can't get

817
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: excited about this Buccaneers offense this year.

818
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there I said the Titans might be

819
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 2: the worst offense the Bucks. I don't think they'll be

820
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 2: the worst, but they'll be a bottom tear defense. Like

821
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 2: I mean, even when Baker had his little resurgence in La,

822
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 2: it was not good at all for fantasy purposes, like

823
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 2: and again like Baker made other wide receivers, not like

824
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 2: Odell was terrible With Baker, Jarvis Langry was solid, which

825
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 2: I think is like the whope for Chris Godwin. I

826
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 2: think we're going to really very quickly see the impact

827
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,439
Speaker 2: of even losing what Tom Brady was last season, which

828
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 2: was far from what he was a couple of years ago.

829
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 2: It's gonna have a big lasting effect, I think.

830
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,800
Speaker 1: So you say that the Bucks could be a bottom

831
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: ten offense this year, they were a bottom ten offense

832
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: last year.

833
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:19,439
Speaker 2: They okay, maybe bottom five.

834
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 1: They were the twenty fifth ranked offense in terms of

835
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: scoring last year, And yeah, it very well could get

836
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: worse coming up this year. It is not going to

837
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 1: be good at all. That's kind of a downerwey to

838
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 1: in the show.

839
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:37,720
Speaker 2: It's the NFC South.

840
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: It's the NFC South. So we've gone through three divisions.

841
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 1: That means next week we will wrap it up with

842
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: the AFC West and the NFC West. I think there's

843
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 1: a little bit more to get excited about and talk about.

844
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 1: Those teams were a little bit more competitive last year,

845
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: at least some of them were so we'll talk about

846
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:54,839
Speaker 1: that next week before we head into the draft. Also

847
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: hoping to get some more draft analysts on We are

848
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: efforting Lance Zerlin to get his thoughts. Always love talking

849
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 1: to Lance as well, to get his thoughts in some

850
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: of the prospects heading into the draft as well. The meantime,

851
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,399
Speaker 1: that feels like a good place for us to put

852
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: this one down for the moment. We always appreciate you

853
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 1: hanging out with us. That'll do it for this edition

854
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,760
Speaker 1: of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, The Happy, Safe, and Healthy,

855
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 1: do good, and live well. Enjoy the weekend, everybody, and

856
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 1: we'll talk to again next week.