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Speaker 1: Come check it down man. Thursday morning, December twenty fourth,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. It is the Beating the Book podcast
Speaker 1: Christmas Eve morning, and we're still doing a megapo week
Speaker 1: seventeen in the NFL, Becata two Christmas Day games. We
Speaker 1: got a game on Thursday as well, and we got
Speaker 1: three on Saturday.
Speaker 2: Gil, I don't see your Christmas tree? Where's your Where's
Speaker 2: I don't see your Christmas tree in the background.
Speaker 1: It's in San Francisco. And by the way, it's the
Speaker 1: first time in my whole life that a Christmas tree
Speaker 1: has ever been in my place of them live it
Speaker 1: by place of President.
Speaker 3: So twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: There it is, Thank you Christians. For a while, I'm here. Okay,
Speaker 1: before we start, By the way, you already know if
Speaker 1: you're watching on Twitter, that's Todd Wishnev from his mom's
Speaker 1: quirk Attic in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. You see that surface behind him.
Speaker 1: It's actual cork. Even though Todd denies it, Will Hill
Speaker 1: from a Connecticut at not V will Hill on Twitter.
Speaker 1: Todd is at t wish Nev will host the A
Speaker 1: Bit More podcast. Todd is the star of Showtimes docuseries
Speaker 1: Action and he's very angry at Matt Lafleur, which we
Speaker 1: will discuss here momentarily, and then Matt and then Matt.
Speaker 1: Matt Brown everybody Vsent hosts with his annual appearance on
Speaker 1: the megapod. He's almost stormy every Thursday, so usually he
Speaker 1: can't do this because we're doing the Strange week this
Speaker 1: week with Tuesday Megapod. He is kind enough to join us.
Speaker 1: How you all do it? Thank you, Matt, appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Man rock and rolling man, feeling good, glad to be here.
Speaker 1: What's on your sweatshir as I say.
Speaker 2: Oh, my buddy is a fight manager, So it's it's
Speaker 2: Ruby Sports and Entertainment. It's the name of his Yeah,
Speaker 2: the name of his management company.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's start with what Todd was just talking about
Speaker 1: before we got on air or the official podcast, which
Speaker 1: is Todd had Green Bay under twenty seven and a
Speaker 1: half total points yesterday in the game, and they had
Speaker 1: a four.
Speaker 3: But I took it.
Speaker 4: I took it when it was twenty four to nothing.
Speaker 4: They came down, they kicked the field goal. I knew
Speaker 4: they weren't going to be playing very aggressively on offense. First,
Speaker 4: the idiot Saints, who have been punting every time on
Speaker 4: fourth and long, now decide on fourth and seven.
Speaker 5: Well, why don't we change our philosophy.
Speaker 4: Down twenty seven nothing, might as well go forward on
Speaker 4: fourth and eight, and they don't make it. So now
Speaker 4: green Bay's got good field position at the forty eight
Speaker 4: yard line. It's now they're now at like the thirty
Speaker 4: two or something. It's fourth and two, four minutes to go.
Speaker 4: Every National Football League team winning twenty seven nothing And
Speaker 4: please don't tell me the Patriots used to do it,
Speaker 4: because I looked it up when Aaron Shottz was with us.
Speaker 5: They didn't do it with four minutes left. They did
Speaker 5: it early and mid fourth quarter. You hand the ball
Speaker 5: to your full back. Maybe he gets the two yards,
Speaker 5: you get the first down. Maybe he doesn't.
Speaker 4: And there's no way that the Packers are getting more
Speaker 4: than twenty seven and a half points. Instead, they throw
Speaker 4: a bomb to read down the sidelines, catches the ball.
Speaker 4: Now it's first in goal with the ten. It's scumbaggery. Okay.
Speaker 5: Even Dan Campbell, who goes.
Speaker 4: Endless wings, we're gonna just keep trying to score, even
Speaker 4: when there's six minutes left in his blowouts, he stops
Speaker 4: the nonsense. Okay, even he stops the nonsense with four
Speaker 4: minutes to go, This idiot at twenty seven nothing is
Speaker 4: throwing a bomb down. It's unconfortable. It's unconsfortable. It's not
Speaker 4: the way the natural football league works.
Speaker 1: So it'll just be you talking through your bet of
Speaker 1: under twenty seven a half.
Speaker 5: Of course, of.
Speaker 4: Course it's through my bet. But I'm still telling you
Speaker 4: that there's nobody in the NFL that throws a bomb
Speaker 4: on fourth and two, up twenty seven to nothing with
Speaker 4: four minutes left. They don't do it. It's a professional card.
Speaker 4: It's kind of like the dribble out. We've all watched
Speaker 4: the dribble out when there's twenty two seconds left, and
Speaker 4: you're winning by eighteen, you dribble the ball up. You
Speaker 4: stand in the corner and you dribble the ball out,
Speaker 4: and you hand it to the ref. That's how it works. Okay,
Speaker 4: this is the equivalent. There's four minutes left. Okay, maybe
Speaker 4: with eight minutes left, seven minutes, you could tell me that,
Speaker 4: no problem about with four okay.
Speaker 1: So one the basketball things interesting because when a team
Speaker 1: does that, it's always very awkward. If the other team
Speaker 1: left with five seconds then tries a shot or not.
Speaker 1: I always find that amusing, where it's like, Okay, they
Speaker 1: were nice to you, they didn't shoot. Maybe you shouldn't
Speaker 1: shoot either.
Speaker 5: But they don't. But I just want to I'm talking
Speaker 5: about it. I'm talking aboutga.
Speaker 6: Under points and you foul him with five seconds left
Speaker 6: and a fifteen point not that.
Speaker 1: Not that you would know anything about that massive thousands
Speaker 1: of dollars. I just want to ask if what Todd
Speaker 1: is saying is true because when we were kids, right,
Speaker 1: people did used to kneel on the football if they
Speaker 1: were up forty five to nothing. It was a professional courtesy.
Speaker 1: Is what you're saying actually true? Because I feel like
Speaker 1: this generation they're the they're the well, if you can't
Speaker 1: stop us, then you know, if you don't want us
Speaker 1: to score, you should stop us. Generation And that's.
Speaker 4: The Dan Campbell throwing the ball with nine minutes left
Speaker 4: in the fourth quarter up forty five to three. It's obnoxious.
Speaker 4: And that's what you're referring to. I'm not referring to that.
Speaker 4: I'm talking about with four minutes left. Even Dan Campbell
Speaker 4: doesn't do these shenanigans.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm not sure you're right, is what I'm asking.
Speaker 4: Well, go look at the just go look at the
Speaker 4: play by play, Daddy, you can see it.
Speaker 5: It's not there. I'm telling you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't feel like doing that, to be honest
Speaker 1: with you, but I'm just saying I just think that,
Speaker 1: you know, like Darren Rizzy of the Saints didn't appear
Speaker 1: all that bothered by it, not that you know, he
Speaker 1: necessarily would have been. I think you're right. I think
Speaker 1: it is kind of I don't know it's scumbaggery, but
Speaker 1: it was a little untoured. I will give you that.
Speaker 4: It's Lane kiffenery, it's Lane Kiffin bullshit, okay, And this
Speaker 4: is not old miss against Furman, Okay.
Speaker 3: Can I can I can I play devil's advocate here.
Speaker 1: Kil please sure, Matta, thank you.
Speaker 2: They did at that point have Malik Willis in the game,
Speaker 2: and like you can make the argument that you know
Speaker 2: you're a playoff team and if God forbid something happened
Speaker 2: to Jordan Love, you know you at least are are getting,
Speaker 2: you know, some meaningful reps for your backup quarterback that
Speaker 2: would have to then play in the playoffs again playing
Speaker 2: devil's advocate here.
Speaker 3: It wasn't like it was Jordan Love.
Speaker 5: That did this.
Speaker 2: It was Malik Willis that did that.
Speaker 4: God fuck, I don't care who it was. And it's
Speaker 4: not meaningful reps against the New Orleans Saints at twenty seven.
Speaker 4: In fact, the entire game wasn't meaningful reps. There were
Speaker 4: no meaningful reps in the entire football game from eight
Speaker 4: point fifteen when Joe Buck and Troy Aikman, So there
Speaker 4: were no meaningful reps. But I understand what you're saying, Matt.
Speaker 4: You're trying to come up with a devil's advocate and
Speaker 4: that was a strong attempt.
Speaker 1: Strong attempt. He grants you the attempt. Who is the
Speaker 1: dumbbo with just week?
Speaker 6: My only input would be usually when it's twenty seven
Speaker 6: to nothing, and there's there's just more games on, So
Speaker 6: I'm not really paying attention watching to like the mechanics
Speaker 6: all how aggressive were they down twenty seven or ohing.
Speaker 6: But I think Todd's point is generally correct, where hey,
Speaker 6: fourth and two, you just kind of run it and
Speaker 6: you throw a little check down, you don't go for
Speaker 6: the home run ball.
Speaker 4: But dude, I'll show you a million games Arizona Jet
Speaker 4: against the Jets.
Speaker 5: I mean a million games.
Speaker 4: This is not Yeah, the only thing you see nowadays
Speaker 4: is the ridiculous Dan Campbell in the fourth quarter, early
Speaker 4: fourth quarter, but not with four minutes Well, even Dan
Speaker 4: Campbell brings in his backups.
Speaker 1: Todd, I get. I'm with you, and I'm the guy
Speaker 1: who's like, oh, you know, I'm the one who used
Speaker 1: to blame Belichick for setting this for a whole new
Speaker 1: generation because he it's completely I feel like I'm a
Speaker 1: thousand years old when I came about stuff like he
Speaker 1: learned it from Joe Gibbs.
Speaker 4: Oh, even he didn't do it, Gilly, Even he didn't
Speaker 4: do it with four minutes left, he did it with
Speaker 4: eight minutes left, ten minutes left. We look, I went
Speaker 4: back and looked at the play by play with Aaron.
Speaker 1: All right, he didn't want a particulous I mean to
Speaker 1: spend fifteen minutes on it, all right, Dumbo of the week.
Speaker 1: Can we give Mike Tomlin some hate here? Like enough
Speaker 1: with the it's two weeks in a row. His team
Speaker 1: has been down fourteen points in the fourth quarter, I
Speaker 1: think one with like ten plus minutes left, the other
Speaker 1: with eight plus minutes left Eagles, then the Ravens, and
Speaker 1: he just punts. Stop. We gotta stop holding him in
Speaker 1: reverence when he.
Speaker 4: He wanted to give his defense some meaningful reps. They
Speaker 4: may be in the playoffs?
Speaker 1: Oh man, was there another candidate besides Mike Tomlin. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to.
Speaker 6: Think Signetty deserves a nominate even though it's college. I
Speaker 6: think we can break the rule and nominate him for
Speaker 6: how gutless that was on Friday night with Indiana, after
Speaker 6: talking all that shit about all we smoke these top
Speaker 6: twenty five teams, and with his chest out and then
Speaker 6: to coach, like, let's just face it, he coach like
Speaker 6: a little bitch Friday night.
Speaker 1: A little bitch.
Speaker 3: I think I think that's fair. I mean, I think
Speaker 3: that's fair.
Speaker 2: It's I always just find it funny, and especially a
Speaker 2: guy in his position where there's zero chance of him
Speaker 2: getting fired.
Speaker 3: Like your season's over. If you lose, your going home.
Speaker 2: It's not like you lose and you get to like
Speaker 2: play a consolation bowl or something. So it's like, who
Speaker 2: cares if you lose seventy nine, It doesn't matter, Like
Speaker 2: you just go for it.
Speaker 3: If the hunt zero point zero percent.
Speaker 2: Chance of winning, if you continue to punt the ball
Speaker 2: away and at least have zero point one percent chance
Speaker 2: of winning, if you try to actually convert these fourth downs,
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, it's just who cares at that point?
Speaker 6: And if they lose nothing, they had a great year,
Speaker 6: it does it wouldn't matter, like, hey, nobody would say anything.
Speaker 6: Hey you were Indiana, you made the playoffs. You know what,
Speaker 6: You hold your head high. The only way you come
Speaker 6: out there looking bad is what he did, where you
Speaker 6: just you talk all of that ship and then you know,
Speaker 6: punting from the plus thirty eight third and ten run,
Speaker 6: then then he was gonna go for it on fourth down.
Speaker 6: He kicks a field goal punt down seventeen in the
Speaker 6: fourth courtment. He coached so scared it was unbelievable. Then
Speaker 6: his team makes a late rally where you know, touchdown
Speaker 6: two point another on side another touchdown. Was like, man,
Speaker 6: maybe if we went for some of these, we would
Speaker 6: have made this interesting.
Speaker 1: All right? I got a couple more in the Pros
Speaker 1: won New England. Also when they were down ten tow
Speaker 1: it to a buffalo in the fourth quarter with ten
Speaker 1: to excuse me, that was with eight third was still
Speaker 1: a game, all right, Yeah, just let me get it
Speaker 1: out with eight thirty three left, he punts it, you know,
Speaker 1: and it was still a winnable game, like you said.
Speaker 1: And then uh oh, Thomas Brown, the interim coach with
Speaker 1: the Bears, they're down what was it? They were down?
Speaker 1: They into a three score game. Yeah, they were down
Speaker 1: thirty four to four team and they kick a thirty
Speaker 1: yard field goal with six ozh three left in the
Speaker 1: third to make it a seventeen point. That's pretty bad.
Speaker 1: That's pretty bad. But you know who the Dumbo of
Speaker 1: the week is. Forget all that, Antonio appears for winning
Speaker 1: a game for the Braiders. That's the Dumbo of the week.
Speaker 1: You are now in the clock, New York. It's here
Speaker 1: to win football game.
Speaker 5: I don't I don't have much problem with that, because
Speaker 5: I don't. I don't like that. Hole. Oh, we have
Speaker 5: to do our draft and everything.
Speaker 4: You know, people paid a lot of money for the
Speaker 4: tickets to go to the games, and who can't I
Speaker 4: love this. Well, the game doesn't mean anything. By the way,
Speaker 4: all the games don't mean anything. Okay, all the games
Speaker 4: don't mean anything. Did you win the championship? Why we
Speaker 4: won the championship twenty years rather, you still have to
Speaker 4: look at Google to find out who won the goddamn championship.
Speaker 7: None of the games mean anything. That's why we gamble
Speaker 7: on the games. Okay, we'll stop with the Oh, the
Speaker 7: game doesn't mean anything. They're professional athletes. Give them a
Speaker 7: chance to win a goddamn game. I don't want to
Speaker 7: hear about this for the future. Oh, so we can
Speaker 7: get a better draft pick, so we can pick the
Speaker 7: wrong guy. So we picked Caleb Williams instead of Jaydeon Daniels.
Speaker 7: That's why we have to get a better It's insane
Speaker 7: if you're gonna charge one hundred billion dollars for a
Speaker 7: ticket you try to win a game.
Speaker 1: Sorry, you are very angry today.
Speaker 2: Good Green Bay particular, though, again to play Devil's advocate
Speaker 2: that game in particular, Actually they did a double bad
Speaker 2: because it was all Jacksonville fan Like everybody from Jacksonville
Speaker 2: was in town.
Speaker 3: It wasn't even Raiders fans in there.
Speaker 2: So it's like they actually stole the happiness away from
Speaker 2: Jacksonville fans.
Speaker 3: And in the middle of all of this.
Speaker 2: Because it was put on their calendar way long time ago.
Speaker 2: Hey we're going to Vegas isn't mean great, you know,
Speaker 2: So it was all these Jacksonville fans in town. Half
Speaker 2: the stadium was Jacksonville Jags fans, and instead they just
Speaker 2: stole all of their their love for them and they
Speaker 2: lost a number one overall.
Speaker 3: Pick fell all the way to sixth, which is even funnier.
Speaker 1: And all this you you like betting the draft early matter?
Speaker 1: You are you thinking that cam is going to be
Speaker 1: the Giants pick?
Speaker 3: I do not.
Speaker 2: I think it's shador If they laid, I would lay
Speaker 2: up to four dollars for shoot.
Speaker 1: Or I mean number one overall right now, probably even
Speaker 1: though it feels like he doesn't want to play there,
Speaker 1: even though they's even though they're saying he does.
Speaker 2: Yeh, I mean, it's I understand Dion have said things
Speaker 2: in the past and all that, But I mean, at
Speaker 2: the end of the day too, you have to look
Speaker 2: at this and it's it's like, I mean, it's the
Speaker 2: biggest it's still.
Speaker 3: The biggest market in the country.
Speaker 2: Like you're gonna get you're gonna make You're gonna make
Speaker 2: so much money by playing out of there. And I mean,
Speaker 2: I would think it'd be pretty attractive playing the league neighbors.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know exactly what he's trying to
Speaker 2: accomplish or whatever, but I mean, I think it would
Speaker 2: be pretty attractive to have that guy in a rookie
Speaker 2: contract for the next couple of years.
Speaker 3: But you know, I don't I.
Speaker 2: Don't think that cam Ward eclipses Shodoor in all of
Speaker 2: this with whoever ends up first overall with the pick.
Speaker 4: I agree with you, Matt. I agree with you. I
Speaker 4: don't think cam Ward's that great either. I think he
Speaker 4: reminds me a lot of Caleb Williams. He runs around
Speaker 4: und a lot.
Speaker 1: Todd has the best scouting report of Kayla Williams of anybody.
Speaker 1: What is it again, Todd, There's.
Speaker 4: A lot of that too. I hate to break it
Speaker 4: to you, cam Ward is not and the Miami. First
Speaker 4: of all, he's been infected by that horrible crystal ball. Okay,
Speaker 4: once you've been around that crystal ball, nothing good can
Speaker 4: come of you.
Speaker 8: Herbert overcame it, though.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that is kind of well, has he really with
Speaker 5: all that talent?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 5: Maybe that's what's holding him back.
Speaker 1: Oh, I got at the end all right. Todd went
Speaker 1: to three, which left the door open for me and
Speaker 1: Willy to to just run through it and win this
Speaker 1: thing we didn't.
Speaker 5: Try to do.
Speaker 4: I pulled the Jonathan Taylor dropping the ball at the
Speaker 4: one yard line last week by giving you guys, And
Speaker 4: I knew as I was making all these unders, I
Speaker 4: was thinking, this is these are two conventional wisdomy. I
Speaker 4: knew I was in trouble last week. I give you
Speaker 4: guys the O and three. You did not run through it.
Speaker 4: You both went one and two. So Gilly is now
Speaker 4: at twenty four to twenty three.
Speaker 1: Eight and one. Wait, I didn't get one. One will
Speaker 1: went one way? One?
Speaker 5: Wait?
Speaker 4: Hang on, hang on, Seattle plus three? What did they
Speaker 4: lose by three? I think they lost by three and
Speaker 4: a half. Check the score.
Speaker 8: They We do this every week every time. I'm not
Speaker 8: paying fult we were't paying attention. This is why record
Speaker 8: is what it is.
Speaker 6: Every week we just shave off a little week and
Speaker 6: half year one. I'm probably in first place at this point.
Speaker 1: These records twenty one pat bullshit.
Speaker 4: Twenty one, twenty five and two. You have a freaking
Speaker 4: text with the picture of every single week, So you
Speaker 4: can go back and shut your masks. YenS can shut
Speaker 4: both your maths. Just go back and look it up. Okay,
Speaker 4: twenty one, twenty five and two. For Willie, you get
Speaker 4: the second tie.
Speaker 5: Mazle tough.
Speaker 4: I am twenty six and twenty two, so I am
Speaker 4: still ahead of Gilly by one and a half games,
Speaker 4: and the guest is at twenty five Wait to beat
Speaker 4: You twenty five, twenty two and one. The guest is
Speaker 4: actually only half a game back to me, so it's
Speaker 4: going to be tight down the stretch. Here In the
Speaker 4: teaser category, we've made a little bit of a resurgence.
Speaker 4: Gilly even won a teaser. He goes to five ten
Speaker 4: and one. Willy at seven seven and two leads the teasers.
Speaker 4: Me and the guests are seven and nine. So that's
Speaker 4: where we are on the records. It could be a
Speaker 4: tight last two weeks.
Speaker 1: We are so middling this year, like our records are
Speaker 1: so mediocre this year. What I want to get so
Speaker 1: we do the in game stuff before we get to
Speaker 1: the best bets. I want to get Willy a shout.
Speaker 1: I gave Will a shout on the on the radio
Speaker 1: side this morning. I want to do it here on
Speaker 1: the podcast. Which is that college football bowl game we
Speaker 1: played yesterday? These late money line prices that are available
Speaker 1: in some spots. Fresno is it was the uh where
Speaker 1: was it yesterday?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 1: And Boise Fresno in Northern Illinois. Fresno was coming down
Speaker 1: the field to a chip shot field goal to win it.
Speaker 1: There was a tie game, but the Fresno State kicker
Speaker 1: had missed two kicks already in that direction. Uh, And
Speaker 1: so Willy Willy was like six to one for Northern
Speaker 1: Illinois to win this on the money line. I didn't
Speaker 1: get six to one. I got plus three fifty. But
Speaker 1: still and sure enough, dude missed a third field goal
Speaker 1: attempt and Northern Illinois somehow miraculously wins it in overtime
Speaker 1: twenty eight to twenty, which was fun for all of
Speaker 1: us who had a bunch of Northern Illinois bets. But not,
Speaker 1: you know, more luck than anything. But the point being
Speaker 1: that Will identified what was a you know, a bet
Speaker 1: that needed to be made to some degree, a little sprinkle,
Speaker 1: and he had a six to one. So shout out
Speaker 1: to the Great Will Hill on that one.
Speaker 4: Those one didn't he hit another one that was even
Speaker 4: a juicy one. Also, like a week or two ago,
Speaker 4: like plus five hundred or something on.
Speaker 8: Something this money line against the Panthers.
Speaker 6: It was the same sort of scenario where I just
Speaker 6: kind of assumed that Panthers were going to win, and
Speaker 6: I think it was Tampa down three with thirty seconds
Speaker 6: dollar time out, but you're leaving out to keep part
Speaker 6: of this northern Northern Illinois bat Stevie luckbox fezik hat
Speaker 6: gave out Northern Annoy minus the three. So he clears
Speaker 6: that easily and he uh.
Speaker 5: Comes out the other side the luckiest guy of all time.
Speaker 1: I just want to say, as smart as that guy is,
Speaker 1: and he is, he's an actual He is the luckiest
Speaker 1: better I have ever met in my life.
Speaker 8: Market movie, nobody went for two.
Speaker 6: You they always go for two in that spot, and
Speaker 6: overtime somebody scores a touchdown, somebody else, you know, scores
Speaker 6: a touchdown, the go for it and land on one,
Speaker 6: of course, not.
Speaker 8: For Fezi, and then he wins by eight.
Speaker 4: And then the game before that, the bowl game before that,
Speaker 4: he goes under in the third quarter.
Speaker 5: I said, don't do it. That Utsa is going up
Speaker 5: and down the field easily. Don't do that third quarter
Speaker 5: and you're now around the math. You know the math
Speaker 5: math math math math math math math math math. So
Speaker 5: he's got to do the under. So he goes ahead
Speaker 5: and does the other.
Speaker 4: Meanwhile, you esay is inside the ten twice in the
Speaker 4: first first five minutes of the third quarter. Somehow this
Speaker 4: one point six billion points in the second half.
Speaker 5: But he wins an under third quarter. I don't know
Speaker 5: how he does it smoking mirror.
Speaker 1: It's incredible. By the way I call him on this right,
Speaker 1: I'll say to you are the lucky You are smart,
Speaker 1: but you are the luckiest sports better I've ever met
Speaker 1: in my life. And he answers it very honestly. He says, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm in a period of like six years where I'm
Speaker 1: running good. Before that, I was in a period of
Speaker 1: like six years where I couldn't win anything. And then
Speaker 1: like seven years before that, he was running good. Again,
Speaker 1: so like he has apparently, according to him, these large
Speaker 1: periods of time where things either go his way or don't.
Speaker 1: So we just happen to be in a in the
Speaker 1: Steve Fezik luckbox era, I'm running fifty.
Speaker 5: Four years of going bad in life.
Speaker 1: Well, Hachem hates you, Jad, so that's the reason.
Speaker 5: There you go.
Speaker 6: You know, especially at Saint's games where you have live
Speaker 6: overs in you're tied with two seconds left and you
Speaker 6: get a miss and then push back, put back.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we had the over to the same game. They
Speaker 4: somehow tie the game at the end there's twelve seconds left.
Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, last shot. Of course you're gonna get
Speaker 4: a horrible shot, which we did. We got the horrible shot,
Speaker 4: but somehow the big turd on Saint John's grabs the
Speaker 4: ball on the offensive rebound and just flips it.
Speaker 5: Up and somehow makes it. You just you can't make
Speaker 5: it up.
Speaker 1: It's incredible, the big turd on Saint John. All Right,
Speaker 1: we don't have a Thursday at football games since we're
Speaker 1: doing this on Tuesday, so we don't have to do
Speaker 1: a special Christmas or day after Christmas dispensation. But God
Speaker 1: help the forty four remaining people and Survivor that are
Speaker 1: responsible for the last forty five entries, each of which
Speaker 1: is worth over three hundred thousand dollars right now because
Speaker 1: they have to pick one of those six teams. Man,
Speaker 1: oh man, oh man, is this going to be this?
Speaker 1: It's moving day at the Masters these next two days
Speaker 1: and Survivor, So it's going to be interesting. And I.
Speaker 2: No matter how do you think, Yeah, no matter how
Speaker 2: you plan for it, Gil Like it's like everybody you
Speaker 2: know always starts with a plan or something like, it
Speaker 2: didn't end up how you thought it was going to be. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it did not end up how you thought. And so
Speaker 2: you're everybody's in a bad spot here. I mean, there's
Speaker 2: no one's in a good spot.
Speaker 1: Isn't the optimal play going to be the Bears? Like
Speaker 1: if you really want to put yourself on an island
Speaker 1: and have the most plus ev if you win, that's
Speaker 1: the play I think. I mean, you know, God help you,
Speaker 1: but I think that's the play.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't click it, I'll put it that way.
Speaker 1: But well, yeah, based on obviously what you have available, right,
Speaker 1: because I think there's only like four people that have
Speaker 1: the chiefs. None of these so.
Speaker 2: There's seven seven with the Chiefs, twelve with the Ravens,
Speaker 2: so you have to assume nineteen, right there are taken
Speaker 2: care of.
Speaker 3: Twenty two have Seattle.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so twenty two have Seattle. And then there is
Speaker 2: one entry that only has the Bear, so there will
Speaker 2: be someone on the Bears. So there there's one entry
Speaker 2: that only has the Bears, so there will at least
Speaker 2: be one entry on the Bears, which means.
Speaker 1: We could have a mess on Yeah, there's a mess
Speaker 1: on Pittsburgh too, right, they have a bunch of yeah available.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's you have to assume all you know,
Speaker 2: all nineteen that have either the Ravens or the Chiefs
Speaker 2: will probably play them, and then it's up in the
Speaker 2: air from there.
Speaker 1: All right, Matt, best bets. We start with one from you.
Speaker 3: I'm going to play Seattle in the first half. Do
Speaker 3: you all allow the first half?
Speaker 5: Bets?
Speaker 1: No, Todd Mega Constitution according to the rules.
Speaker 5: I didn't write the rules. I'm just telling you we
Speaker 5: didn't do that.
Speaker 2: It's not in That's fine, Okay, they will just punt
Speaker 2: that and I'll just I'll just play Baltimore then at
Speaker 2: five and a half instead. Uh, this is in my
Speaker 2: opinion A really good, a really really good situation for Baltimore.
Speaker 3: They're a run funnel.
Speaker 2: I mean, they're a pass funnel defense as it is anyway,
Speaker 2: you can't run against them. Houston doesn't run the ball
Speaker 2: efficiently as it is anyway, So now you're going to
Speaker 2: force them into passing. You already lost Stefan Diggs, Now
Speaker 2: you lose Tank Dell. Nico Collins I don't think can
Speaker 2: get it done on his own, but probably try to
Speaker 2: Pepper Dalton Schultz a ton.
Speaker 3: I can't imagine that Deontay Johnson.
Speaker 2: Is going to get any sort of significant run being
Speaker 2: there for like forty eight hours.
Speaker 3: So I think Baltimore has a really good.
Speaker 2: Shot here against a team that in any other circumstance
Speaker 2: I would probably say.
Speaker 3: Maybe you could even upset them in this situation.
Speaker 2: But given what they're going to take this field with,
Speaker 2: I think Baltimore comes out and really puts a stamp
Speaker 2: on this thing. And with a ton to play for, right,
Speaker 2: I mean, Houston, I guess in their dream world could
Speaker 2: move up a slot, you know, in all this seating
Speaker 2: and stuff, but not really, And so I think this
Speaker 2: is a much more important game for Baltimore. As well,
Speaker 2: and plays kind of right into right into their hands here,
Speaker 2: which is you're going to know CJ. Stroud has to pass.
Speaker 2: You're basically going to know who's thrown it to. And
Speaker 2: with that, I think Baltimore can cover this big momber.
Speaker 1: Baltimore minus five. That's the big mover on Christmas Day.
Speaker 1: A lot of money on ball five and a half
Speaker 1: is what it is. Yeah, you take.
Speaker 3: South point number.
Speaker 5: First of all, he said, first.
Speaker 4: The consensus. I didn't make these rules. Man, don't get
Speaker 4: angry at me. I'm just telling it's five and a half.
Speaker 4: As we go with the consensus.
Speaker 1: I just love I love Todd's face when someone tries
Speaker 1: to bet something that is not allowed in the megapod constitution,
Speaker 1: How oh annoyed you get with it?
Speaker 4: Like, I mean, we didn't allow Brent Wesberger to do
Speaker 4: first touchdown in the third quarter bets.
Speaker 5: I mean, come on, that.
Speaker 6: Was a four leg touchdowns anytime touchdown score of parlay.
Speaker 1: Read for yea fourteen parlay. I was like, you can't
Speaker 1: do that, Bred, I took that bullet for you, all right.
Speaker 1: I mean, Toddy is your number one.
Speaker 4: We should change Maybe we should change the bylaws because
Speaker 4: everyone doing props nowadays, but maybe next week, next year
Speaker 4: we should add, you know, two good props or something.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm not saying, but until the laws are changed,
Speaker 4: we're a civilized country here.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you very much. I appreciate how much
Speaker 1: you are about it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, look, the rules are the rules.
Speaker 4: First of all, I didn't talk about the end game
Speaker 4: real quick on the end game. There were two quick
Speaker 4: things that I want to talk about in game Number one,
Speaker 4: very simple, very no no.
Speaker 5: A matter of the floor. The over.
Speaker 4: In the Cardinals Cardinals Panthers game this past week, Cardinals
Speaker 4: got down big. You know they're going to score. It
Speaker 4: was like an obvious over bet. You absolutely had to
Speaker 4: make the bet over. I think I took over fifty
Speaker 4: two and a half. But the Cardinals were down big.
Speaker 4: There's no reason why they're not going to be able
Speaker 4: to move the ball. So that's the kind of bet. Look,
Speaker 4: if Carolina is moving the ball, you know this game
Speaker 4: is going over because they're going to get theirs.
Speaker 5: And you know Arizona sooner or later is going to
Speaker 5: get there. So that was kind of easy.
Speaker 4: When you get those big favorites down big, very often,
Speaker 4: the over is the way to go. I want to
Speaker 4: talk about one other bet that it was a loser.
Speaker 4: The Me and Willy have had bad luck on these
Speaker 4: third quarter nfls lately, but I took under seven and
Speaker 4: a half third quarter in the Giants Atlanta game. The
Speaker 4: reason being you could tell the Giants weren't going to
Speaker 4: do anything. They were getting the ball first, so they
Speaker 4: were probably gonna knock off two minutes of clock. Then
Speaker 4: Atlanta gets the ball, let's say thirteen minutes to go,
Speaker 4: they go on one of those typical six to seven
Speaker 4: minute drives. By the time, even if they get the touchdown,
Speaker 4: by the time you turn around, there's only gonna be
Speaker 4: six seven minutes left. Again, the Giants aren't going to
Speaker 4: do anything, so now there's only five minutes by the
Speaker 4: time anybody can score. Again, there's no way they're going
Speaker 4: over seven and a half in the third quarter. Well,
Speaker 4: of course, our friend Drew Locke throws a quick pick
Speaker 4: six to start the third quarter, so all those plans
Speaker 4: go in the garbage. But I still think it was
Speaker 4: a great bet because if you look out it played out,
Speaker 4: it played out exactly that way. Atlanta went on a
Speaker 4: long touchdown drive after stopping the Giants after the interception touchdown,
Speaker 4: and then by the time I'm Atlanta got the ball
Speaker 4: back again, they went on another long drive and finally
Speaker 4: got a field goal in the fourth quarter. So you know,
Speaker 4: you can make good bets and get screwed, obviously by
Speaker 4: ridiculous you know, Drew Lock picked sixes. But you know
Speaker 4: you have to look for those third quarter unders when
Speaker 4: the bad team is getting the ball first. Sometimes that's
Speaker 4: just a great bet to make. And I still think
Speaker 4: that's a good bet even though we lost.
Speaker 1: It was what was the boat you made that? Immediately
Speaker 1: something bad happened and Willy Willi you texted, you go,
Speaker 1: I disagree.
Speaker 5: I disagree with that.
Speaker 8: Ravens in total d twenty second and a half.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was another.
Speaker 8: Good one being delivered. It was a pick six, I go,
Speaker 8: I don't like it.
Speaker 4: By the way, if you look at if you look
Speaker 4: at that one, it worked exactly how I thought that
Speaker 4: one's going to work out. It was twenty four to
Speaker 4: seventeen Ravens Steelers ball thirteen minutes left on their own
Speaker 4: side of the field. You got to figure, okay, Steelers
Speaker 4: move it a little bit, they punt the ball. By
Speaker 4: the time they punt the ball, The Ravens are going
Speaker 4: to get the ball, with what like ten nine, ten
Speaker 4: minutes left, they come up, they kick a field goal
Speaker 4: and by the way, all this is exactly what happened,
Speaker 4: but it happened after Russell Wilson throw an interception for
Speaker 4: a touchdown.
Speaker 5: So that ended up being.
Speaker 4: You know, if you're getting three and a half points
Speaker 4: with those teams leading often it can be good.
Speaker 5: But you know whatever, if you don't get the breaks,
Speaker 5: you don't get the brakes. You know, all right, what
Speaker 5: you play?
Speaker 4: My play, My first play is going to be. You know,
Speaker 4: I just hate this card. It's just garbage. I'm gonna
Speaker 4: take the Lions minus four if for no other reason
Speaker 4: than I hate the San Francisco forty nine ers too,
Speaker 4: with a passion. I took them in game this past week.
Speaker 4: And that damn kicker he loves to screw me, that Moody.
Speaker 4: He remember he missed two field goals against Cleveland last
Speaker 4: year in the rain that cost me back. That guy
Speaker 4: just loves to miss field goals. He's in Miami. It's
Speaker 4: a it's a gorgeous stadium. There's no weather, it's a
Speaker 4: thirty seven yard he misses the field goal the Niners
Speaker 4: cannot move the ball in the red zone. Also, that's
Speaker 4: another thing, is they just cannot get the ball in
Speaker 4: the end zone. And maybe it's because there's all there's
Speaker 4: left is kittle and you know, there's just not enough
Speaker 4: people to throw the ball to or whatever. I just
Speaker 4: I'm tired of this Niner team. And I believe mister
Speaker 4: Dan Campbell. He look, we had a lot of adversity
Speaker 4: and it's exactly what we need. We needed some adversity,
Speaker 4: and we lost that game with some adversity.
Speaker 5: And now we're back to endless wings.
Speaker 4: We're gonna start kicking people's asses and we're not gonna stop,
Speaker 4: just like the endless wings at Applebee's. And that's what
Speaker 4: we're gonna do this week. We're gonna kick some Niner ass.
Speaker 4: And there's Levi Stadium or whatever the hell that thing
Speaker 4: is called. We're gonna call it apple Bee's Stadium. Endless
Speaker 4: touchdowns for the Lions this week. Lions minus four. They're
Speaker 4: just a better team than this Niner rag tag squad
Speaker 4: that's left. And you know what, enough with the Brock Party,
Speaker 4: you know he's better than we all thought.
Speaker 6: He was.
Speaker 4: No problem with that, He's not God, Okay, enough with him.
Speaker 4: I'm tired of this whole and that's Shanahan. I hate
Speaker 4: that Shanah. I can't stand him. He's just so bad
Speaker 4: it makes me want to kill somebody.
Speaker 5: That Shanahan.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry. Lions minus four.
Speaker 1: That's part of your Randy gap. I already have that
Speaker 1: bet in. I have lines minus three and a half
Speaker 1: in my account already. I'm with you on that, Todd,
Speaker 1: that that's actually my number three. And I know I'm
Speaker 1: one and a half games behind Todd with six left,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna I'm gonna give him one game where
Speaker 1: it's not gonna matter. I'm on the Lions. Is it four? Now?
Speaker 1: Is that what the number is?
Speaker 5: I mean, I was trying to take the fair number
Speaker 5: it is if.
Speaker 3: We're going consensus, yes, yes, yeah, ok. There are two
Speaker 3: three and a half's out there.
Speaker 4: But the most Matt, we're not screwing you, We're doing
Speaker 4: the same thing for us.
Speaker 3: I'm good.
Speaker 1: The most amazing Niner stat of the year will will you?
Speaker 1: Sent this text some days ago. Last year, Christian McCaffrey, Deebo, Samuel,
Speaker 1: and Brandon Ayuk score forty touchdowns, forty rushing and receiving
Speaker 1: this year. Ristian McCaffrey, Brandon Ayuk obviously injuries, and Deebo
Speaker 1: Samuel have combined for after a year where they combined
Speaker 1: for forty three touchdown and the third was this past
Speaker 1: weekend when Deebo scored against Miami. Just think about that
Speaker 1: drop off that's just from one year to the next.
Speaker 1: You cannot overcome that.
Speaker 6: How about the stat I think I sent you guys
Speaker 6: last night. Twenty three straight years the forty nine ers
Speaker 6: have either made the NFC title game or missed the
Speaker 6: playoffs altogether.
Speaker 1: That's incredible. Like, that's so incredible. I have to look
Speaker 1: it up because I don't believe it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I was trying to just do it
Speaker 6: back in my head and like, hey, what was a
Speaker 6: year where they made the playoffs they either lost in
Speaker 6: the first or second round and I wasn't thinking of it.
Speaker 8: I couldn't think of anything.
Speaker 2: So I'm I'm rooting for you all to win next.
Speaker 2: I have heaps on the Lions and all the Lions
Speaker 2: futures and everything in the world. I think the only
Speaker 2: thing that scares me about that game is Shanahan basically
Speaker 2: just went into like Yolo mode in that one. I mean,
Speaker 2: they ran the ball eight times with a running back
Speaker 2: and they let Party throw it forty times against the Dolphins,
Speaker 2: And it's like, do they just go, Okay, we don't
Speaker 2: have a running back that can run the ball, Party's
Speaker 2: going to throw it fifty times? At what point is
Speaker 2: this lion's secondary in this defense that has literally, you know,
Speaker 2: seventy five different guys on ir at this point, Like,
Speaker 2: is there a breaking point somewhere down the line, if
Speaker 2: you know, if something, you still have Kittle and Jennings
Speaker 2: and Devo, Like, it's not like they have nobody right
Speaker 2: on that side. So that's the only thing that scares
Speaker 2: me a little bit about about that one.
Speaker 6: I was surprised that was such a cool trick play
Speaker 6: with the fake fumble and what was it?
Speaker 8: Gibbs falls like it is a fumble and Golf pretends
Speaker 8: the trip. But why waste that?
Speaker 6: You're up fourteen against the ill Why waste that?
Speaker 4: I disagree with both of you. You know why I
Speaker 4: disagree with both of you. In the moment when that's happening,
Speaker 4: you think the next team they do it to is
Speaker 4: going to remember in the moment, he looks like he
Speaker 4: fell down.
Speaker 5: Oh wait, that's the trick play. They're not gonna remember.
Speaker 1: Maybe, No, it's not about remembering. It's not about remembering.
Speaker 1: To me, it's the fact that you you won't ever
Speaker 1: catch Oh you're you're saying you won't catch him by
Speaker 1: surprise that.
Speaker 6: Theyil they can run it again. To run that again
Speaker 6: in two weeks, I don't know.
Speaker 4: You could run it again. Nobody's gonna remember. These guys
Speaker 4: are steroids about that eight hundred miles an hour.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, the guy fell down. Let's run.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, what do you at?
Speaker 8: What do we offer for consensus?
Speaker 5: Here?
Speaker 8: Rams and Cardinals? Six or six and a half?
Speaker 5: Rams and the car? What do you?
Speaker 4: Matt has six and a half and I can't find
Speaker 4: the game. Where the hell the damn get six and
Speaker 4: a half everywhere?
Speaker 1: Six and a half everywhere?
Speaker 5: Okay, there I will take.
Speaker 8: I will take Arizona. I just I can't get to
Speaker 8: this number.
Speaker 6: I do the same exercise Gill does, where you kind
Speaker 6: of guess the lines in your head, and okay, Rams
Speaker 6: are a little bit better than Arizona, and you give
Speaker 6: the Rams a little something for home field, not much
Speaker 6: in that building. But what there are a couple points
Speaker 6: better than you give another point in half for home
Speaker 6: field and gets like three and a half or four.
Speaker 6: I just I think you're paying a huge tax here,
Speaker 6: and this is the time of year where you do it.
Speaker 6: You pay a huge tax for motivation. The Rams trying
Speaker 6: to win the division. Cardinals have been eliminated. Okay, that's
Speaker 6: where something. But we've seen these teams that have nothing
Speaker 6: to play for the Lions a couple of years agoing
Speaker 6: on that Sunday night against Green Bay. We've seen teams
Speaker 6: play spoiler before, where sometimes it helps you when you
Speaker 6: have nothing to play for, you just come in fast
Speaker 6: and loose and you could fake upon be aggressive.
Speaker 8: I just think this is uh.
Speaker 6: You're paying a tax on the motivation angle here for
Speaker 6: the Rams. So I think the six and a half
Speaker 6: is inflated. I will take the Cardinals plus the points.
Speaker 1: Cardinals like that eliminated Rams currently top of the NFC West.
Speaker 5: Do I do?
Speaker 1: I would have done a snake here, so do I do?
Speaker 1: Number two?
Speaker 5: Here? Good too?
Speaker 1: Number two? I am taking the Washington Commodes. My is
Speaker 1: it for? I'll tell you why. Because it's a disrespectful line,
Speaker 1: just like last week's was disrespectful. Fuck all of you.
Speaker 4: They couldn't stop Spencer Rattler and the refs from getting
Speaker 4: the teaser blown up. So you know what, here's an idea, Spencer.
Speaker 1: Washington disrespectful line. It is a Sunday night at Northwest
Speaker 1: Stadium where Washington could could clinch a playoff. Berth. I
Speaker 1: guess there's a scenario where they could clinch it before that. No,
Speaker 1: probably not. They will. They will clinch a playoff Berth.
Speaker 1: This has This has the same whiff as RG three
Speaker 1: in the year twenty twelve, clinching the NFC West on
Speaker 1: a Sunday night in DC against the Dallas Cowboys and
Speaker 1: Tony Romo. This will be a playoff coronation, if you will,
Speaker 1: for Washington, a moribund franchise who now has their savior.
Speaker 1: Michael Pennix is still starting for the Atlanta Falcons. I
Speaker 1: don't know that we learned any thing about him this
Speaker 1: past week. Maybe he's good, maybe he's not. Four seems
Speaker 1: way low to me in what is going to be
Speaker 1: a frenzied atmosphere in ral John in Largo, Maryland, Landover, Maryland.
Speaker 1: Give me the skins minus the four. This should not.
Speaker 1: Before I thought this would be sick come on, disrespect.
Speaker 2: Actually, Gil, I think if the Sea Chickens lose, then
Speaker 2: the Commanders are in no matter what.
Speaker 1: So I, well, I think you're right, yeah, because the
Speaker 1: wins right, ay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have ten wins, right yeah, Seattle's only got.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so if Seattle loses early, that's right, then
Speaker 1: Washington is in no matter what.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think, uh, okay, But well again I don't know
Speaker 1: if no, I don't know if that's true though, because
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay in Atlanta could still get to ten and five, right.
Speaker 5: So.
Speaker 3: Ten and seven?
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yeah, and the best they.
Speaker 2: Could yeah, so the best they could do would be
Speaker 2: tie and they'd go to some sort of tie breaker
Speaker 2: or something like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think they I don't think they could
Speaker 1: clinch by maybe wrong, Yeah, Willie, what is your number two?
Speaker 8: I'm gonna go opposite. I'm gonna take the Falcons.
Speaker 6: I'm surprised this is higher than a field goal.
Speaker 8: I thought Pennix was pretty good last week. These teams
Speaker 8: seem to get a bump when they move on.
Speaker 6: From cousins, whether it's the Vikings or Penix last week,
Speaker 6: and I just see this Atlanta offense with Pennis exploding
Speaker 6: all over Washington's Washington's defense. You've got it to do it.
Speaker 6: It's got to be a thing now, it's got to
Speaker 6: be a bit. I just I don't get chilled for here.
Speaker 6: I think I think Washington is again similar to the
Speaker 6: Arizona Rams handicap. I think Washington is slightly better than
Speaker 6: in Atlanta, and you give them something for home field,
Speaker 6: but I don't know, four seems like a lot. I
Speaker 6: think this is a field goal game. I'll take the points,
Speaker 6: plus the fact that only a couple of weeks left,
Speaker 6: and I want to catch you guys, so a little
Speaker 6: game theory here. I'll take the points with that light.
Speaker 1: Dot.
Speaker 6: I've heard that get hurt last week. I mean that
Speaker 6: game is I mean that was twenty one seconds, turn
Speaker 6: the ball over.
Speaker 1: Five times and they still won. I don't care if
Speaker 1: it was you playing quarterback. Come on, how.
Speaker 4: About Spencer Rattler, who was the last time we watched
Speaker 4: him play, he looked about as good as uh, you know,
Speaker 4: Will Hill playing quarterback. It was unbelievable how bad he was.
Speaker 4: But meanwhile, he can just march down on the Redskins
Speaker 4: at the end of the game, like, come.
Speaker 1: On, I'm looking I'm looking at my power rankings and
Speaker 1: Washington is a solid eighth. So I don't know what
Speaker 1: you're talking about.
Speaker 5: You think that the Washington's the eighth best defense? Is
Speaker 5: that what you're saying?
Speaker 1: Eighth best team?
Speaker 5: Oh, maybe eighth best team, but not eighth best defense. Okay,
Speaker 5: So in my turn.
Speaker 4: Yes, sir, I'm gonna get down to a place where
Speaker 4: we call Christmas Time and Acressure. Christmas Time and Acressure
Speaker 4: is one place where EANs can look up the park
Speaker 4: in numbers. You're not even gonna believe they can't even
Speaker 4: fit the parking costs right on the sign.
Speaker 5: It's Christmas Day and they won't even give you a break.
Speaker 4: It's gonna be one hundred dollars the park on acress
Speaker 4: and Christmas Day?
Speaker 5: Now, is that a goodwill toward men?
Speaker 4: I say not anyways, I like that under in the
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh Stillers and the Chiefs game, what Ian's got forty four?
Speaker 4: They're not getting the forty four. It's gonna be a
Speaker 4: little chilly here in Pittsburgh. Under forty four in casey
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh ca C Pittsburgh is a classic under We've got
Speaker 4: the good Kansas City defense they're not gonna let Russell
Speaker 4: Wilson and no receivers do anything. You saw our Our
Speaker 4: offense has been defenestrated. We can't do nothing on offense
Speaker 4: no more. We can't move the ball. We got nobody
Speaker 4: to throw. And look what happ up in the last
Speaker 4: two weeks. We played good defenses. We couldn't do nothing. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean, the Ravens aren't even a good defense. We
Speaker 4: couldn't do nothing. We're not gonna do anything against Kansas City.
Speaker 7: We're gonna have to win this game nineteen seventeen if
Speaker 7: we win it at all, and then it's your boy,
Speaker 7: Mahomes and all the guys.
Speaker 5: The stores will be going crazy. They'll be playing renegade
Speaker 5: between the third and fourth quarter. It'll be twenty seventeen
Speaker 5: at most.
Speaker 4: We're talking about old school Pittsburgh football.
Speaker 5: Run the football. Let's punt.
Speaker 4: By the way, if the Steelers are down seven or
Speaker 4: ten points in it and they're on the plus forty
Speaker 4: three and it's fourth and five, our guys gonna punt
Speaker 4: the ball. That's great for the under two. So give
Speaker 4: me the under in what looks like a classic under.
Speaker 4: And now we've got the fact that all those Pittsburgh
Speaker 4: went over last week, Kansas City went over last week.
Speaker 4: They're trying to trick the whole thing up. Give me
Speaker 4: under forty four. It's just too much in a Kansas
Speaker 4: City Pittsburgh game, which are both defensive football teams under.
Speaker 9: Forty four, not to mention a parkin gil just so
Speaker 9: that we don't confuse people just want to just because
Speaker 9: they Pickens is gonna play, just so everyone know, everyone
Speaker 9: knows he's full practice or whatever and all stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Just just so because I don't want people walking out
Speaker 2: of here and thinking like, oh my god, there's no
Speaker 2: one to throw to, like Pickings. Pickens is gonna play
Speaker 2: for Pitts.
Speaker 5: It's for your forty four.
Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, I.
Speaker 4: Swum down at the UPM Health Center, a practice facility yesterday.
Speaker 5: Did not look good at all. Did not look good.
Speaker 5: He may be playing Matt he didn't look good.
Speaker 1: Chris Jones and Juwan Taylor questionable for Kansas City. Joey
Speaker 1: Maddie who got out for them.
Speaker 3: So, I don't know, that's a that's a scary. That's
Speaker 3: a scary. Under Todd, I'm gon sweat that one with you, man.
Speaker 3: That's a that's a scary.
Speaker 2: That's a scary under Uh, I am gonna play the
Speaker 2: Raiders as favorites on the road at New Orleans. Uh,
Speaker 2: they just got basically gotta win. It's one one and
Speaker 2: a half. This New Orleans team is absolute dust. There's
Speaker 2: nothing left. They have nothing to play for. It doesn't
Speaker 2: matter if they start Rattler or Hain or whoever in
Speaker 2: the hell it's going to be when you have no
Speaker 2: when you have I mean, there's literally no receivers left
Speaker 2: on that team whatsoever. There's nothing going on as far
Speaker 2: as any spunk on the defensive side. We saw this,
Speaker 2: We saw this against the Packers. They just have no juice.
Speaker 2: There's no players, there's nothing left. And the Raiders, for
Speaker 2: whatever reason, are like actually playing pretty tough. I mean,
Speaker 2: they don't have any talent either, but they're actually playing hard.
Speaker 2: And I think Aiden O'Connell is if you're if you're
Speaker 2: telling me you have to start aid And O'Connell or
Speaker 2: Spencer Rattler or Jake Hayner, you're taking Aid and O'Connell
Speaker 2: ten times out of ten, like every single time. And
Speaker 2: at least there's a little bit of talent there. For
Speaker 2: Las Vegas, they're heading in a dome, no weather concerns,
Speaker 2: know anything like that against the dead New Orleans team,
Speaker 2: and all you got to do is win, give me
Speaker 2: the give me the Raiders against the Saints.
Speaker 1: You got them. They're all you like.
Speaker 4: Aid and O'Connell is an upgrade from Ridder. It is
Speaker 4: a gigantic upgrade. Even though Aiden O'Connell is not even good.
Speaker 4: Ritter is horrendous. And I agree with you on the
Speaker 4: New Orleans quarterbacks. The only time good is when they're
Speaker 4: driving down to kill the teaser against Washington. That's the
Speaker 4: only time.
Speaker 1: We guess you had the teaser that day. Maddie, you're third.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna take the under.
Speaker 2: I'm going to take the over In the Chargers and
Speaker 2: Patriots that's sitting at forty two. I have played the
Speaker 2: Patriots over for five straight weeks. The games have gone
Speaker 2: over five straight weeks. This is there. It is an
Speaker 2: over team. Until otherwise noted for this. New England in
Speaker 2: their defense is terrible, specifically, their past defense is terrible,
Speaker 2: and these teams can score on them and they're actually
Speaker 2: feisty enough on the offensive side. Drake may is a
Speaker 2: really good chase quarterback. He's pretty athletic. The dude is
Speaker 2: like when teams are playing soft and he's got eight yards,
Speaker 2: he'll go run the eight yards, extend these drives, go
Speaker 2: put some points on the board. We're not asking for
Speaker 2: very much in this one as far as scoring goes,
Speaker 2: And this is the class. This is like one of
Speaker 2: the better over teams there is kind of going right now.
Speaker 2: They're just so their their defense gives it up and
Speaker 2: then they just have enough on the offensive side to
Speaker 2: get there in the garbage time.
Speaker 3: Give me the over forty two Chargers Patriots.
Speaker 5: Guys, what's the number in that?
Speaker 1: He's like forty two? I sho and a half?
Speaker 8: Yeah, two and a half?
Speaker 4: WI over forty two and a half is our final score? Okay,
Speaker 4: I actually like his pick. I like both of his picks.
Speaker 4: I like that over forty two.
Speaker 8: A kiss his asstar.
Speaker 1: It's fine.
Speaker 5: I like.
Speaker 4: I don't like his Hey, I don't like his Baltimore pick, Will,
Speaker 4: and you know who else I don't like Will. I
Speaker 4: don't like anybody from Iowa who plays basketball. And you
Speaker 4: know who I do like.
Speaker 5: I like girls from Connecticut with long fingernails.
Speaker 4: So go to hell. Now I'm going to take my
Speaker 4: third pick is going to be. Okay, I'm gonna just
Speaker 4: do it. I don't care.
Speaker 5: What do you guys have for the total in the
Speaker 5: Giants game?
Speaker 3: Giants forty and a half. Forty and a half is
Speaker 3: the prevailing.
Speaker 4: Okay, give me over forty and a half. I just
Speaker 4: this Colts team is starting to become electric on the
Speaker 4: offensive side of the ball. Jonathan Taylor, when he holds
Speaker 4: onto the ball all the way through the goal line,
Speaker 4: is really ripping off some big runs. And these aren't
Speaker 4: against you know, crap bowl of teams. I mean, Denver's
Speaker 4: a good defensive team. He's running all over him. Yes,
Speaker 4: last week against the Titans, he's running all over I
Speaker 4: don't like their defense. Their defense give up a bunch
Speaker 4: of backdoor touchdowns to Mason Rudolph when last scene on
Speaker 4: the Steelers are gouldn't beat out Duck Hodges. I mean,
Speaker 4: the Titans are not a good offensive football team, yet
Speaker 4: they scored a whole bunch of backdoor touchdowns. I think
Speaker 4: whoever starts for the Giants at home there, they're going
Speaker 4: to want to try to get Maybe Tim Boyle can
Speaker 4: come in and throw a late touchdown to Malik Neighbors
Speaker 4: in the corner against that horrible Colts defense. But I
Speaker 4: think the Colts are going to score a lot, so
Speaker 4: you know, thirty four to seven gets you there. I
Speaker 4: think the Colts can win this game thirty four to seven.
Speaker 4: And I just I really like what I'm seeing lately
Speaker 4: from the Colts, especially running the football and forty and
Speaker 4: a half. It's nothing in an NFL game these days.
Speaker 4: Forty and a half is like literally nothing. So give
Speaker 4: me over forty and a half in the Colts g Man,
Speaker 4: literally nothing.
Speaker 2: Well, how many thoughts that I had last night as
Speaker 2: I had the over in over forty one in that
Speaker 2: game last night.
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's what I thought last night as well.
Speaker 3: So that was that was fun. That was super fun.
Speaker 6: Well, Flour, I don't know if you saw this, but
Speaker 6: well Flour tried to get you there. They were being aggressive.
Speaker 6: Even if I think it's maybe four minutes left, they
Speaker 6: were still throwing the ball pretty deep.
Speaker 4: Then, oh, Matt lane Kiffin do you talk about Matt
Speaker 4: lane Kiff on the floor fucking as what an asshole?
Speaker 4: Seventy By the way, guys, when it's seventy six nothing
Speaker 4: ole miss next year against Furman, don't take the under
Speaker 4: because Lane's gonna keep throwing the ball with the fourth
Speaker 4: spring quarterback.
Speaker 8: We didn't have the under.
Speaker 6: We had Furman plus points and we won that one.
Speaker 4: So I had the under two, I had plus seventy
Speaker 4: nine and a half, and I had under I had
Speaker 4: under eighty and a half.
Speaker 5: So that idiot could have killed two bets for me.
Speaker 1: You okay, man, No, I'm not okay.
Speaker 5: I'm having a bad day.
Speaker 8: You got nothing back. There is no games here today
Speaker 8: to get it.
Speaker 4: I should frame that that ticket that we won on
Speaker 4: Furman that time we had Furman in halftime plus seventy
Speaker 4: nine and a half. I looked ysterical on the ticket
Speaker 4: and some eighty and a half we even had. I'm like,
Speaker 4: they're not going to lose eighty and then nothing?
Speaker 5: Are you kidding me? They almost lost eighty three nothing?
Speaker 5: The final was seventy six nothing.
Speaker 1: Yep. Is that the day at the South Point that
Speaker 1: I was down there? I think that was the day?
Speaker 6: No, no, no, this is this was week cool and that
Speaker 6: was week one of the college football seasons whatever Labor
Speaker 6: Day weekend that Saturday night?
Speaker 1: Oh the first one?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, who's next? Todd? Your last? Will your last? One.
Speaker 5: I did my last one over forty and a hals
Speaker 5: will Giants will turn.
Speaker 6: I don't have a third that I like, so I'm
Speaker 6: just gonna go again. A little game theory, and I'll
Speaker 6: go over Chief Steelers, even though I don't love it,
Speaker 6: but I am hearing something ty game twenty a piece,
Speaker 6: Three seconds left, Boswell lining up to kick a field goal.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's blocked.
Speaker 5: They're gonna run spot.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be up to five.
Speaker 5: That touchdown twenty six twenty final.
Speaker 1: If you had the under you lose. Oh, he totally
Speaker 1: kills your thing. He tried to do it.
Speaker 4: He did a better job this time. I have to
Speaker 4: give him credit. He actually gave us the time and score,
Speaker 4: he gave us the situation. I thought it was a
Speaker 4: much better thing. His last time he gave us was terrible.
Speaker 4: But this time was it better?
Speaker 8: Oh it was not terrible. It was fine.
Speaker 1: I did a terrible one on I did a terrible
Speaker 1: one on a numbers game. Yesterd I try to do
Speaker 1: the Redskins ending. It was bad. I did it terriblely.
Speaker 1: Does not wish to have quality. My last one is
Speaker 1: the Chiefs minus two and a half tomorrow Chiefs minus
Speaker 1: two and a half at Pittsburgh.
Speaker 5: Uh yeah, it looks like two and a half.
Speaker 1: The line, don't try to chinse me out of the
Speaker 1: half the Chiefs. The Chiefs win, they clinched the number
Speaker 1: one seed. They have twenty four days till their next
Speaker 1: meaningful football game. I think they love this prospect. I
Speaker 1: think they are going to play it to the hill
Speaker 1: tomorrow to try to have that scenario. And I don't
Speaker 1: think the I don't think the Steelers' magic beans is
Speaker 1: going to work out against Mahomes. And I do think
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin has a a give up, white flag waving
Speaker 1: punt at some point in the game. Chiefs minus two
Speaker 1: and a half, looking for the.
Speaker 6: I think they just played Saturday. This feels I know
Speaker 6: it's a quick turnaround. This is kind of jarring to
Speaker 6: go from what was it Sunday? Saturday Wednesday, the schedule
Speaker 6: comes out, it's like, oh, three games eleven days at
Speaker 6: the quick turnar on. But just the feel of like, wait,
Speaker 6: the Chiefs are playing again, recording this Tuesday, They're playing tomorrow.
Speaker 6: It feels like they played yesterday. It feels like it's
Speaker 6: like two games in three days.
Speaker 8: It's very strange.
Speaker 1: It's an opponent swap right, two games tomorrow. Yeah, both
Speaker 1: of these teams played the other team's opponent on Saturday. Okay,
Speaker 1: which brings us to our teaser of the week, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, that thing you see in your rearview
Speaker 1: mirror is me climbing up the leaderboard and teasers.
Speaker 8: Check your record, Yeah, a little chicanery with the records.
Speaker 1: Todd, What is your teaser record this year?
Speaker 5: I have only seven and nine after a thirteen and
Speaker 5: five masterpiece last week year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Matt, what's your favorite two leg six point teaser? Sir?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I to be fully transparent, I've been playing, right.
Speaker 3: I used to play teasers, Gill.
Speaker 2: You remember, like you know, four years ago, four or
Speaker 2: five years ago, I played tons of teasers.
Speaker 3: I play more of these altline parlays now than I play.
Speaker 2: Teasers, just because the teaser prices have gotten out of control,
Speaker 2: and it's just if I'm just trying to bring it
Speaker 2: under three and I only need five points or four
Speaker 2: and a half points or whatever it was something like that.
Speaker 2: Like I just do that now as opposed to playing
Speaker 2: just regular teasers, because like I can get even money
Speaker 2: sometimes you even plus money and stuff like that. But
Speaker 2: for the sake of keeping things nice and tidy here,
Speaker 2: I will take.
Speaker 3: Indie and I will take the Rams in my teaser.
Speaker 2: So I'll take Indie down to two two and a half,
Speaker 2: whichever one y'all want to give me. This kind of
Speaker 2: a smattering of eight and eight and a half's out
Speaker 2: there on Indy and then the Rams basically down to
Speaker 2: a pick them, So that'll take it down to a
Speaker 2: half a point against Arizona the Giants. Let's be for real.
Speaker 2: You just got gifted like the number one pick in
Speaker 2: the draft. This is going to be the complete no
Speaker 2: show from this team. Just got the push it Overgator
Speaker 2: starting Drew Lock again. So Drew Locks good for at
Speaker 2: least one pick six, maybe maybe some other sort of
Speaker 2: terrible turnover, so well, they might can't win by nine.
Speaker 2: Indy wins this thing by field goal at least and
Speaker 2: then Rams. I just think are better team than Arizona
Speaker 2: right now, So give the give me the Rams to
Speaker 2: win this thing.
Speaker 3: Basically, just straight.
Speaker 1: Up, there's a shot across the bow at will Hill.
Speaker 1: Is what that is? Toddy?
Speaker 5: What do you wait before before I before you give
Speaker 5: my teaser?
Speaker 4: It's thirty to twenty here in whatever they call this
Speaker 4: stupid stadium in Washington, d C. There's only forty two
Speaker 4: seconds left Atlanta at the twenty yard line. They could
Speaker 4: kick the field goal here Jim to go down thirty
Speaker 4: to twenty three, but it looks like they might decide
Speaker 4: to go for the time. It looks like they're gonna
Speaker 4: try to go for the touchdown White. They're twelve seconds
Speaker 4: left now. The clock continues to roll. Pennix throws the deep.
Speaker 4: Kyle Pitts tips the ball in the air, hoping an
Speaker 4: interceptor can steal it, but I can't.
Speaker 7: Somebody else grabs it and they hit the pilot two
Speaker 7: feetter in final score.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, Atlanta covers.
Speaker 4: Of the last play of the game. Final score thirty
Speaker 4: to twenty three.
Speaker 1: Medic it's a it's a deep shade of eggplant purple,
Speaker 1: is what he being?
Speaker 5: Okay? Uh, Indie minus two.
Speaker 4: Also, there are really not a lot of good choices
Speaker 4: here for the teasers this week. It is just slim pickings.
Speaker 4: I guess I'll take the Ravens down to plus a half.
Speaker 5: So I'll go Ravens plus a half. If it's a tie,
Speaker 5: I win, And that's my two.
Speaker 1: Tumor, Willie.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll throw Indian there too. Torn between Miami and
Speaker 6: Green Bay, I'll go Miami. I just think if they're
Speaker 6: gonna play TTR. I don't know that TTR is the
Speaker 6: worst quarterback I've ever seen in my life. But he's
Speaker 6: certainly in the conversation.
Speaker 3: He's on the podium. He at least, yeah, I mean he's.
Speaker 5: On the bodies.
Speaker 8: He's certainly there.
Speaker 6: He had fifteen yards passing at halftime, which one of
Speaker 6: his fifteen yards, guys, was your favorite of his passing
Speaker 6: yards a half times Dolphins colts. The fourth was a
Speaker 6: good one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, did you see did you see that fourth down?
Speaker 1: He converted where he was like he was just sitting,
Speaker 1: he had no idea where he was and he just
Speaker 1: eaves it And it was like, d t R, what
Speaker 1: a play I'm taking, Indie? And are you ready for
Speaker 1: this second leg? You wonder why I'm five and ten
Speaker 1: and teasers or whatever I am. The shy Town Bears
Speaker 1: getting all those points against the Seahawks. Hey, the Bears
Speaker 1: might win this. There's plus two Oh, I'm.
Speaker 5: Sorry, Bears plus ten nine and a half. Well another,
Speaker 5: weren't they plus four?
Speaker 1: Now? Maybe that's why I'm not winning the teasers because
Speaker 1: he's doing that ship to me.
Speaker 5: Oh wait, what what is the Bears line currently right now?
Speaker 3: Three and a half?
Speaker 4: Okay, so nine and a half Bears plus nine. I
Speaker 4: actually liked that pick, Gilly that I was thinking about
Speaker 4: that Bears as a regular standalone pick. I don't believe
Speaker 4: in the Seahawks team at all. I think this might
Speaker 4: be Caleb's fine. Finally he could cover the spread for somebody.
Speaker 6: They were four and two right now they're four and eleven.
Speaker 6: That's correct the hail Mary had, but it was it
Speaker 6: was a facetious four and two.
Speaker 4: Will you remember Will Levis gave them a game in
Speaker 4: the beginning. The Rams gave them a game in the beginning.
Speaker 5: It was very Forgazy the uh it's.
Speaker 2: Like the defense right, like so the only thing was
Speaker 2: like keeping them in these games is a defense, and
Speaker 2: you were holding your hat like, okay, Caleble figured it out.
Speaker 2: As long as this defense stays okay, like maybe the
Speaker 2: second half of the season, they were number one against
Speaker 2: the past three weeks one and eight. Since since Week nine,
Speaker 2: they're twenty seventh in the NFL against the past three
Speaker 2: weeks one and one through eight. Against the run. They
Speaker 2: were right in middle of the pack. They were like sixteenth.
Speaker 2: Now they're thirty sec. They're dead last against the run
Speaker 2: in the NFL since Week number nine. It's just the
Speaker 2: defense just spell off for the Bears. Is kind of
Speaker 2: where all of these losses, you know, tend to keep
Speaker 2: coming from with with them. But hey, Gino, uh, Gino Cangino.
Speaker 2: Though Gino's never met a throw, Gino thinks he can't make.
Speaker 3: That's that's for sure.
Speaker 1: I love that about By the way, Todd, you used
Speaker 1: facetious poorly.
Speaker 6: I can tell you I would say terribly because he
Speaker 6: called my impression of the play I played terrible, So
Speaker 6: I'll use his use of facetious terrible.
Speaker 4: No, I said the first your first attempt was terrible,
Speaker 4: and today's was solid with trade fairly. I'm not going
Speaker 4: to be one of these guys who just great, Oh,
Speaker 4: everything's just great. Then you're not going to believe me
Speaker 4: when you do a good job. When you do a
Speaker 4: good job, I'm gonna say you did a good job,
Speaker 4: and you're going to take pride in yourself. But you
Speaker 4: can't just walk in here with garbage and expect me
Speaker 4: to go. It's fantastic.
Speaker 1: How old were you when your mom just gave up?
Speaker 1: How old?
Speaker 5: What are you?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 5: There was a religious war around age twenty four?
Speaker 1: Final two questions of each and every megapot. And by
Speaker 1: the way, Merry Christmas, Mary, who doesn't love Christmas? Chinese
Speaker 1: food tonight? Oh?
Speaker 5: Oh, yes, outside about chicken and broccoli.
Speaker 1: But nice job, Gillian, I thought you'd appreciate that, all right.
Speaker 1: Final two questions, Which of the big favorites in your
Speaker 1: opinion is the most likely to lose? Outright? Here are
Speaker 1: your candidates in there are not that many of them.
Speaker 1: The Rams six and a half point favorites at home
Speaker 1: against the Cardinals, The Colts eight point favorites on the
Speaker 1: road against the Higantes, who are on the clock. The
Speaker 1: Bills ten and a half point favorites at home against
Speaker 1: the Jetropolitans, the Bucks eight and a half let's call
Speaker 1: it point favorites at home against the Panthers and the Eagles.
Speaker 1: I guess if it's Jalen Hurts nine, nine and a
Speaker 1: half point favorites at home against the Cowboys. Oh, there's
Speaker 1: one more on the road six and a half point
Speaker 1: favorites at Brown matt Which of those is the most
Speaker 1: likely to lose out.
Speaker 2: I think it's a no brainer, Tampa Bay against Carolina.
Speaker 2: Carolina's playing with the pulse, man, like they've actually figured
Speaker 2: some stuff out there. Bryce Young is like night and
Speaker 2: day from when he got benched. I don't know what
Speaker 2: happened in those few weeks that he got benched, but
Speaker 2: it was like all of the pressure just got released
Speaker 2: and he's just like playing football again. Dudes, like climbing
Speaker 2: the pocket, making some really good throws, Like I mean,
Speaker 2: should get let the Savior get back this week as
Speaker 2: well against this Tampa team where if you look at
Speaker 2: the defense for Carolina dead last in the NFL against
Speaker 2: the run, but the actually increased over the last half
Speaker 2: of the season to about middle of the pack versus
Speaker 2: the past.
Speaker 3: So it's like, okay, path.
Speaker 2: Lee's resistance is the least efficient way to move the
Speaker 2: ball and score in the NFL. So Tampa, you want
Speaker 2: to run, that's fine. You have to be like perfect
Speaker 2: almost for that game script to work out. I like
Speaker 2: Carolina to keep this thing kind of scary close.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't surprise me if they did did win this
Speaker 3: thing outright, Matt.
Speaker 1: The four bets that I have in my account as
Speaker 1: I talked about on the radio side this morning. Three
Speaker 1: I gave out here Detroit, Washington and the Chiefs, and
Speaker 1: the fourth is the Carolina Panthers the morning. I'm with you,
Speaker 1: totally with you on that. It's right, young man. Too
Speaker 1: many points. I guessed four and a half. Dude like
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe their.
Speaker 6: Taxing motivation big time and late in the year, I think, yeah.
Speaker 5: Wait, can I switch one of my picks to that one?
Speaker 5: I forgot? That's a good one now.
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, you are not allowed to do that. No,
Speaker 1: you are not allowed to Just joking.
Speaker 2: I'm looking here at the Constitution and it says no
Speaker 2: switching at the end.
Speaker 3: I've looked like on page eighth in there section.
Speaker 4: Yeah, good job, good job institution.
Speaker 1: I like it. Scotti, it was the most likely lose outright.
Speaker 5: Is Miami a choice?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 8: You heard him read all the choices right when he
Speaker 8: said Miami.
Speaker 4: I will say that Tua stinks. I'm sick and tired
Speaker 4: of watching the slant play. They don't have anybody, and
Speaker 4: then Tyreek Hill stinks too, and mister carpri Pants stinks
Speaker 4: the worst. So I could even see them losing the
Speaker 4: DT Are I can't even believe I'm saying this, but
Speaker 4: I can't stand the Miami team.
Speaker 5: It's not part of the song, but Miami stinks. I
Speaker 5: hate too. He's horrible that whatever.
Speaker 1: You need. Elon Musk caught wind of this live broadcast,
Speaker 1: he'd be like, with this guy, this guy able to
Speaker 1: run rough shot all over this platform, will most likely
Speaker 1: lose outright.
Speaker 6: I agree, it's Tampa. There's actually some good candidates. There's
Speaker 6: a lot of weeks here where you look at McMann.
Speaker 6: I can't pick any of these teams to lose, but
Speaker 6: I could see a handful like, hey, Philly doesn't have
Speaker 6: hurts at that one. But I'll be different. I'll go
Speaker 6: with Buffalo. And I was listening to our buddy crack Man.
Speaker 6: It was on a Twitter spaces last night and he
Speaker 6: brought somebody, it was either him or somebody brought up
Speaker 6: a good point that if the Chiefs win, then the
Speaker 6: Texans win, the Bills are locked into the two. They
Speaker 6: clinch the two. They can't move up, they can't move down.
Speaker 6: So keep that in mind this year when you know,
Speaker 6: just late in the year, when you're talking like correlation
Speaker 6: in terms of.
Speaker 8: Motivation things like that.
Speaker 6: So if you did, like a three team parlay of
Speaker 6: Chiefs winning, Texans winning, maybe the Jets.
Speaker 8: Plus the points.
Speaker 6: Now, I don't think Buffalo this far out is going
Speaker 6: to pull the plug and start, you know, resting guys.
Speaker 6: That's a lot of time to have off. But keep
Speaker 6: that in mind with all of these different scenarios. For
Speaker 6: that reason, I'll say Bills. But I agree it's probably Carolina.
Speaker 1: I like that upsetting point good point correlation exists here.
Speaker 1: They kind of legislated it out week eighteen, but week
Speaker 1: seventeen you might be able to find some stuff. I'm
Speaker 1: with Matt. The most likely lose outright is the Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers. I would agree with that. And then the
Speaker 1: final exercise, the final question, Matt, you live in a
Speaker 1: bizarre world. You have to bet side in each and
Speaker 1: every one of these NFL games, but you are allowed
Speaker 1: one free pass one game. You want no part of whatsoever.
Speaker 2: Tennessee Jacksonville because I'd have to watch that thing.
Speaker 3: I mean, like like, get me out of there.
Speaker 2: I mean, seriously, tell me the difference in either one
Speaker 2: of these teams. It's lined appropriately at one, which basically
Speaker 2: we don't know the difference in either one of these
Speaker 2: teams Tennessee Jacksonville.
Speaker 3: No no clue as to what to do with that thing.
Speaker 1: Wasn't this the matchup from a couple weeks ago where
Speaker 1: I said, I was like, how much would you have
Speaker 1: to be paid to watch this game? And then it
Speaker 1: ended up being a stinker?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think Todd had a couple of live bets
Speaker 6: on that game to did those go Todds?
Speaker 4: Are you talking about when Ridley decided to run out
Speaker 4: of bounds and not get the first down when it
Speaker 4: was third and five, Because, by the way, you want
Speaker 4: to stop the clock before you get the first down
Speaker 4: so you can have the fourth down.
Speaker 5: Of course it's very smart.
Speaker 1: Any thoughts on Matt Lafleur before we leave in.
Speaker 5: I don't like that guy, Todd?
Speaker 1: What's your game? You want no part of?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 4: I don't want any part of this Washington Comman Deers
Speaker 4: against your Atlanta Falcons. I don't know what this Pennox
Speaker 4: guy is. Is he the incredible masculine thrusting that Willie
Speaker 4: calls him, or is he you know nothing, Maybe he's
Speaker 4: just a nobody.
Speaker 5: But I don't know what we're getting with that.
Speaker 4: And of course the commanders, you know, when they play
Speaker 4: Spencer Rattler, they've got no defense. Well, they've got no
Speaker 4: defense period, So whatever, I don't want to play that team.
Speaker 1: You completely underestimate their defense. Their defense is a solid
Speaker 1: middling defense. You think they suck, They don't.
Speaker 5: Suck against Spencer Rattler.
Speaker 1: All right, Frankie Louvu sacks you in your pie hole face.
Speaker 1: Whatever it is, you come back to me. You let
Speaker 1: me know how good was.
Speaker 3: The addition?
Speaker 5: A lot of more.
Speaker 2: The last couple of weeks has been huge, Like he
Speaker 2: has shut down one side of the field for that team,
Speaker 2: which they didn't have for the first you know, ten whatever, twelve.
Speaker 3: Weeks of the season or something. It's it's noticeable that
Speaker 3: he's that he's out there, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: He's noticeable. He's out there for for good or bad.
Speaker 1: He had a couple of bad plays against Brown too,
Speaker 1: but that the second game in Big Up. You lose Forbes,
Speaker 1: you gain Laddim. That's massive. Mine is or will your turn?
Speaker 8: Vikings Packers? Big game, hell of a game. Vikings minus
Speaker 8: one looks about right to me. I don't want any
Speaker 8: part of that one.
Speaker 1: How how you feeling about your Vikings? How does this
Speaker 1: play out?
Speaker 6: For them four game winning streak away from the super Bowl,
Speaker 6: just trying to trying to get one at a time
Speaker 6: they're gonna lose.
Speaker 8: Probably.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna even root for the Floor, even though I
Speaker 4: hate that guy. I'm gonna root for him just to
Speaker 4: beat your goddamn Darnold's.
Speaker 1: Rams. Cardinals. For me, I have no idea about either
Speaker 1: of those. I really don't like. I know one's eliminated
Speaker 1: and ones in the top of the division. If you
Speaker 1: flip lop them, I'd be like, sure, sure, But the
Speaker 1: Rams man there their second half adjustments. A lot of
Speaker 1: these teams follow the same script. It feels like every
Speaker 1: week the Eagles generally close game, then they just wear
Speaker 1: you out. Bengals is like a tennis match. Can you
Speaker 1: hold serve? Can you break serve? And with the Uh
Speaker 1: with the Rams, it's they make great second half of
Speaker 1: Justin McVeigh and the coaching staffcause there's a lot of
Speaker 1: credit for that. But I still want to gentlemen, Happy
Speaker 1: holidays to all, will with your seventeen children, Merry Christmas.
Speaker 1: I hope they get everything they want on the Christmas tree.
Speaker 1: Once again, for the second straight year, I bought them nothing.
Speaker 5: I hope they get a piece of coal. I hope
Speaker 5: they get a piece of Wow.
Speaker 4: Isn't that a thing like you get on Christmas or something?
Speaker 4: Where did I come up with that from?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: No, that's that was the thing that as a child
Speaker 2: of like, that's why you're good because you're gonna get.
Speaker 3: Cold and I'm klling.
Speaker 2: I don't give a ship like whatever, that's not You
Speaker 2: should threaten me with something way worse than that.
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, like, all right, that doesn't seem much.
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Speaker 1: You putting people on your college basketball thing? Or No?
Speaker 4: I mean you can. You can send me a d
Speaker 4: M when I get around to doing it. It just
Speaker 4: takes too much time. And Willie's constantly texting me.
Speaker 5: He's like, eleven am, we got a game. Let's go
Speaker 5: day game with day basketball. You know, so I gotta
Speaker 5: watch the games and there's no time to do anything else.
Speaker 5: What do you want from me?
Speaker 4: I gotta watch for like Radford against you know, South Carolina, upstate.
Speaker 1: What else are you gonna do? You got no other responsibilities?
Speaker 1: You're gonna do that? I understand.
Speaker 4: Sometimes, I mean there is you know, showering once every
Speaker 4: couple of months. You know that's important, he wished on Twitter.
Speaker 1: He has, He's getting more hygienic. Will Hill not b
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