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Speaker 1: Who was the first person when you got in the

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Speaker 1: league to bust your where He was like, we came.

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Speaker 2: After that game, like the first game to that first game.

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Speaker 2: First game is Jose calving room.

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Speaker 3: Ever, like you never think that it is like somebody

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Speaker 3: like the super It is never the Superstarry, always somebody.

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Speaker 4: In Cleveland, Cosey color bust my. He gave me twenty

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Speaker 4: six and fourteen.

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Speaker 3: Yo.

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Speaker 4: He was fucking celebrated like a motherfucker.

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Speaker 3: I was sick. I had six and six that night.

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Speaker 2: I was like, Yo, this mother fucker and I swear

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Speaker 2: to you to this day and shout out to my man,

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Speaker 2: Jose calling room now because you know I will dog

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Speaker 2: we't play right on that next year. That's when I

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Speaker 2: hit that game winner. I was like, Yo, y'all. Y'allma

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Speaker 2: was playing with me. Every time I see you. When

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Speaker 2: he was in New York, I was like, Yo, I'm.

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Speaker 3: Fucking you know. Every time I said it was personal

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Speaker 4: After the show, respect.

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Speaker 3: Boston Celtics in the building, Kyrie Irving, Jason Tatum's here

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Speaker 3: and we're gonna represent tonight. We appreciate y'all fellas stopping

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Speaker 3: through and keeping the real with us man, this is

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Speaker 3: cute rich and d Miles and knuckleheads.

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Speaker 5: We coach a push us.

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Speaker 4: That's when I knew.

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Speaker 3: I was like a this is fact finder right here.

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Speaker 3: This is a story that people don't know.

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Speaker 6: Can't call me soft, and you can't disrespect where I'm from.

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Speaker 4: I did deal with a lot of losers and that

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Speaker 4: shit sucked, got crack.

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Speaker 3: We come from an authentic old jeek standpoint.

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Speaker 5: But it's always good vibe.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what are y'all doing here? I thought I was

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Speaker 3: just coming over to watch the game, and you guys

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Speaker 3: got a microphone set up in the backyard, And okay,

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Speaker 3: I liked it. I liked it. I like that backgrounding

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Speaker 3: to fince y'all here because we're sitting here on location

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Speaker 3: at the Boom Boom Room aka the Juke Joint aka

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Speaker 3: the Honeycomb hide Out. So we outdoors on location and wonderful,

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Speaker 4: Who the one person?

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Speaker 1: Oh man, first, not the first person. They gotta hold

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Speaker 1: it's real out here.

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Speaker 5: First.

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Speaker 6: I remember the first game, playing Cleveland, the first time

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Speaker 6: coming back. You know, I set a screen on somebody

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Speaker 6: Somebody had the ball and they could have through it,

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Speaker 5: He threw me a little live past.

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Speaker 6: It's on some hang time, so it took four seconds

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Speaker 2: And look and now he's going back and blaming this

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Speaker 4: Broun right there to first play like Joe, show him

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Speaker 2: He came out thinking it was about to be thinking

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Speaker 3: That he's blaming me, like yo, got through the ball,

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Speaker 3: like I loved it a Q he could have caught it.

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Speaker 4: Demands he could have caught it six nine. He wanted

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Speaker 3: Like he laid it up. I was like he bumped ready,

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Speaker 3: Oh look at it, your boy, young Chris.

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Speaker 5: He gave me like thirty two.

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Speaker 3: Don't feel bad though, because at least a shot block

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Speaker 3: my first time ever in life getting dunked on in

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Speaker 3: the NBA. He pushed me into what he pushed me,

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Speaker 3: Sam could sell two point gezus. He come off the screen.

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Speaker 3: He pushed me big dom hang on, he laughed. I swear,

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Speaker 3: That's how he did me, like first time ever in

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Speaker 5: Talking about the LOUI again, How does it feel to be.

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Speaker 7: The I told you, I told you, I told you

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Speaker 1: We ain't gonna talk about Chicago. This is for my man,

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Speaker 6: No, it feels great because you know, growing up, you know,

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Speaker 6: I used to talk about my talking with my dad.

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Speaker 5: And I would just ask him, like who he thought

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Speaker 3: He had?

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Speaker 5: He had stories for days.

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Speaker 6: And I remember when I was coming up, you know,

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Speaker 3: All you want. You want to be and then like

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Speaker 3: Now I can go from there, and now I could

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Speaker 1: Then when somebody else come along, you let them just

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Speaker 3: Moving with it.

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Speaker 5: And that was that was a good thing. Like Brad.

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Speaker 6: After after Brad graduated, you know, he was always talking

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Speaker 6: Like he was always rooting for me, and he wanted

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Speaker 3: That's how Larry was. That's what it's supposed to be

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Speaker 5: Larry was.

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Speaker 1: I had the east Side mentality coming across the water, like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm better than you.

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Speaker 3: He kind of like son Larry. Larry. First of all,

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Speaker 3: you can't even approach Larry the energy. He is literally

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Speaker 3: one of the coolest people you will ever meet in

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Speaker 3: any words, but everything it's smooth and coolest it come.

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Speaker 3: And he's one of the time I played with two

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Speaker 1: But me and Taya is connected with his daddy and

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Speaker 1: godfather and just being for Saint Louis. You were connected

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Speaker 1: by the agents. Dear agent Jeff Wesler got a lot

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Speaker 1: of funny stories. I don't know if Jeff Jeff ever

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Speaker 1: me and you got drafted, and uh, we played a

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Speaker 5: It was our first year. So I had like a.

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Speaker 1: Little charity game in East Saint Louis and East Saint

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Speaker 1: we had the charity game and we were just out late,

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Speaker 5: So we called him like, oh man, somebody got shot.

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Speaker 1: Man, the police got us something that happened two o'clock

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Speaker 2: That man, I mean, well, Jeff came at me like

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Speaker 2: in Miami. It was I was, you know, nineteen years old,

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Speaker 2: like he just got to know, he knows what he's doing.

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Speaker 4: That true, I want to do my own thing. I

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Speaker 2: Jeff's like, yo, you're young, relaxed, you got a lot

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Speaker 4: You're like, no, I want it now, I want it now.

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Speaker 2: So you know, in the beginning, just my discipline, like

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Speaker 2: his kids, walk man is home, took care of me

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Speaker 2: before the draft, make sure I was good, make sure

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Speaker 2: I was well fed. Robin Pound came out strengthen, additioning

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Speaker 2: coach Guru. Yeah, girl, you know, And that in itself

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Speaker 2: Jeff and Debbie they knew what was going on the

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Speaker 2: whole time that I pretended like they didn't coming in late,

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Speaker 2: you know, just doing things as a nineteen year old

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Speaker 2: to be going on doing stuff I just wasn't in,

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Speaker 3: I went through to see the site.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's experience experienced Miami, you know.

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Speaker 6: So I mean I only been with Jeff for a

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Speaker 6: year year and a half now, but I'm like the

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Speaker 6: good kid and I ain't got no I ain't got

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Speaker 6: no crazy stories with Jeff. We get along cool. Him

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Speaker 6: and my mom, they get into it a lot brough.

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Speaker 6: She don't let much slides so but he appreciate that.

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Speaker 6: But uh, you know, Jeff to helped me out a lot.

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Speaker 3: Jeff, he pretty pretty early. But what I'm like you

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Speaker 3: do you realize that you was really out here? Mainly

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Speaker 3: because what you did last year you took advantage of

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Speaker 3: I mean, obviously we all know you took major advantage

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Speaker 3: So we I'm watching your games, you know, on no package.

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Speaker 3: I said, wait a minute. I had to hear Jay once.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he always give you the tough and honor conversations,

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Speaker 3: And y'all boys got a different type of bond too

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Speaker 5: I wish I went back. That's how much fun I had.

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Speaker 3: I started playing a better Harrington.

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Speaker 5: Just what they gave me there, that's right out here.

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Speaker 4: Oh, bige nation respect to Kentucky fans, they're just ready

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Speaker 2: The first thing the market was the first man he

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Speaker 3: We're gonna get back clear head and think things out.

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Speaker 1: That mannight, that man night, man that's got me committed.

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Speaker 1: I met jay Z my Midnight Man, thet John Midnight Man.

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Speaker 5: That environment. It was like the Rucker or something.

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Speaker 1: And you know what I'm saying, it was real deep,

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Speaker 1: What he do, like like art, like like when he

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Speaker 1: K that wanted to win the championship. Like what are

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Speaker 4: Gonna have more eleven game? Played eleven games? So I

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Speaker 3: I was like coach was.

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Speaker 2: He pulled me aside after I think Game three or

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Speaker 4: So how crazy, how ironic?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 4: I was like sidelined. I had a toe injury.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know what it was like I dumb ship

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Speaker 2: I was doing like I thought about it, Like after

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Speaker 2: I was home Jersey, everybody there, and I get hurt

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Speaker 2: in front of my family. I go back to Durham

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Speaker 2: I go out like this is just me and in

440
00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,719
Speaker 2: my state. I go out and I'm in a walking

441
00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:24,560
Speaker 2: boot and I'm in the.

442
00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:29,160
Speaker 3: Turning with my life. Basketball.

443
00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:33,640
Speaker 2: It does this my life, so you know, And that's

444
00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,480
Speaker 2: when it got taken away and then rehab just I

445
00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,480
Speaker 2: focused on that so underwater treadmill, just really getting my

446
00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,240
Speaker 2: body right to just playing the install ofly tournament give

447
00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,560
Speaker 2: us a chance to win the national championship. I appreciated

448
00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,720
Speaker 2: Coach that much more after he let me come back

449
00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,160
Speaker 2: because Nolan had to go and Kyle had it going.

450
00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:51,920
Speaker 2: I'm just his eighteen year old kid. I'm only here

451
00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,320
Speaker 2: for a year. He knows I'm you know, he knows

452
00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,080
Speaker 2: I'm out. Like I was projected to be number one

453
00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,359
Speaker 2: or number two. I didn't have to come back, and

454
00:20:58,400 --> 00:20:59,800
Speaker 2: I'm like I want to come back for the team,

455
00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:00,960
Speaker 2: and Coach gave me that chance.

456
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,480
Speaker 4: Like I'm still rolling with you, like I haven't played

457
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,199
Speaker 4: in three and a half months. So that's what it was.

458
00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:06,320
Speaker 3: Like.

459
00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,440
Speaker 2: I was like his little me and Coach always joking,

460
00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,080
Speaker 2: but I'm like the one that got away from Like

461
00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,399
Speaker 2: he could just never coach me except for the USA.

462
00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,160
Speaker 2: That's how we made it up winning a gold medals,

463
00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:16,560
Speaker 2: like I was like the one that.

464
00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:21,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, he used to always get on me for not

465
00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,160
Speaker 6: being selfish, like even if I would make the right

466
00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,080
Speaker 6: play and we scored. I mean, we played Pitt at

467
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,680
Speaker 6: home and we won, but I only took like I

468
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,320
Speaker 6: think we won BYuT like fifteen or twenty, but I

469
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:32,560
Speaker 6: only took like six shots.

470
00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:34,359
Speaker 5: So the next day I practice. I'm like, practice is

471
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:34,960
Speaker 5: gonna be cool.

472
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,320
Speaker 6: We won yesterday, so we're going to film, and for

473
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,080
Speaker 6: forty five minutes, the whole film was about me, like

474
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,440
Speaker 6: the shot I come in a film, like we're good,

475
00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:45,679
Speaker 6: like practice gonna be light.

476
00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 5: Were going out later. No, the whole film was about me.

477
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,199
Speaker 6: Every time I caught the ball and I didn't shoot it,

478
00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,000
Speaker 6: and like if I passed it up, he was just

479
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,000
Speaker 6: on my head like the whole forty five minutes, and

480
00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,160
Speaker 6: I was hot with the best story I got.

481
00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,280
Speaker 5: We was playing Averaging R and I only had two points.

482
00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 6: I had two points in the first half, and I

483
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 6: guess I kept passing enough shots came in.

484
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:05,960
Speaker 5: He took it.

485
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,480
Speaker 6: He took his suit jacket off, and he threw it

486
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,879
Speaker 6: like right in my feet. He was yelling at me,

487
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 6: and I never forget this he said, you're acting like

488
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 6: a soft ass Saint Louis kid.

489
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:21,760
Speaker 3: Oh man, oh I was. That was the Chicago came out.

490
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 3: He had to keep the Chicago right quick. Yes, I

491
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:26,879
Speaker 3: had like twenty eight points in the second half. But

492
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 3: like anywhere fin.

493
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,679
Speaker 6: Anywhere I go, I go out of town, I go

494
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,159
Speaker 6: to college, like I always have my Saint Louis hat,

495
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,159
Speaker 6: like everywhere, I let it be know like I'm from

496
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 6: Saint Louis. So don't you can't call me soft and

497
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,200
Speaker 6: you can't disrespect wrong from And he knew the butter's

498
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,399
Speaker 6: to push because the whole second I was hot. I

499
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 6: didn't smile my time, and I had twenty eight in

500
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:49,600
Speaker 6: the second alf.

501
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,919
Speaker 3: That's hilarious. You wanted the light skin. It's in your city,

502
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,880
Speaker 3: in my city. I was sick. Two things you don't cross.

503
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,400
Speaker 3: What about the new generation?

504
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:07,120
Speaker 1: This new Duke team is just like something like none other.

505
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:11,399
Speaker 1: The the recognition they getting, the tension they're getting.

506
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 5: This you've never really seen a duke team like this.

507
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 3: That After that first game and they bob Kentucky, it

508
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 3: got loud in here and they was talking they could

509
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,880
Speaker 3: beat the NBA team like slow down, slow down, like

510
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:26,119
Speaker 3: they they nice, but no, you're not beating the NBA team.

511
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 2: I think, well all in general, just terms of the

512
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 2: youthful generation, like they have a long way to go.

513
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:35,680
Speaker 2: Like it quick success is not I g likes and

514
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 2: just telling you that you're that good, Like it's there

515
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,880
Speaker 2: are people that come before you that have been doing

516
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 2: things that have been unbelievable and there would be people

517
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,640
Speaker 2: after you. So like, enjoy that moment while you're doing

518
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,120
Speaker 2: great things and just continue to get better. Like So

519
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 2: that's how I feel about the young players in terms

520
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 2: of the success that they get, is like it's instant.

521
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 4: It's instant, So do you have a.

522
00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 3: Long way to go?

523
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 2: Like we're trust me as pros and they and they'll

524
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 2: understand this, and not just the Duke team, but just

525
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 2: young guys in general, Like we're waiting for you. Like

526
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 2: I'm studying these high school kids. Like I told j

527
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 2: T JT things, I'm great. I've been watching JT since

528
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 2: he was a sophomore in high school. I've been watching

529
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 2: his too many out I knew he was gonna be

530
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 2: a pro. I'm like, just there's too many things I

531
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 2: watched him too. I gotta learn, like I gotta keep

532
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 2: my game sharp, like what's the next thing that they're

533
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 2: doing to be better?

534
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 4: So that that's the first part.

535
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 2: But I also think that they're just like the natural

536
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,400
Speaker 2: talents are just coming easier to them too, like dunking

537
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,119
Speaker 2: and like we used to like really glorify like people

538
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 2: that were athletic and doing great things. They were just

539
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 2: like beast to people, And now things are just coming

540
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 2: so easy to young guys, like jumping out a gym.

541
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 3: I think a part of that, though, is what they're

542
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 3: looking at. You know, what we grew up looking at

543
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 3: and what y'all grew up looking at is way different.

544
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 3: That's like like like y'all are dwarfing what we was

545
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 3: being I talking about like fresh out, coming out, y'all

546
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 3: handle package. Everything is like ten times better. Like you

547
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 3: think about it, Like we was watching Tim Hardaway he

548
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 3: at the bot that was that was a lot of

549
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 3: show that was hot dog, like you hot dog between

550
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 3: the like just like I was doing the reverse was

551
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:20,919
Speaker 3: like that was the illness, Like you know what I'm saying, Like,

552
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 3: now y'all that the your road in it. It came

553
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:25,719
Speaker 3: like it's like now you got the you know, your

554
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 3: evolution of the step back and how everybody's doing that

555
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 3: and the creating a space and then the rules changing

556
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 3: getting easier. So it's like we and then like you said,

557
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 3: you could Dillard up on YouTube, like my kid can

558
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 3: go turn on YouTube and just look at this move

559
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 3: and do it over and over. Like we had no access.

560
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 3: They could put up on their phone, computer or tabling anything.

561
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,159
Speaker 3: So now it's like they coming through the door with

562
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 3: everything sometimes right, that's the thing. It's not disciplined home.

563
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 3: Then it's not focused. It's not.

564
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,439
Speaker 4: I tell you, I tell you, he is one talented fucker.

565
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,679
Speaker 3: I'll tell you, but that's real because when he got here,

566
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 3: I was I told him like just real talk. I

567
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 3: called Jay. When I say yo, Jay, I say, young

568
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 3: boy special though he was like I know he's really good.

569
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 3: I say, I say not, he here doing some stuff

570
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 3: right now, like like wait a minute, I won't expecting

571
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 3: this much this quick. Like I knew, I knew you

572
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,120
Speaker 3: could score. I knew you could score when I saw

573
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 3: you the duke, I was like he had, you know,

574
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,959
Speaker 3: the mid range that people don't really have, Like he

575
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 3: was able to you know, post people up, and I

576
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 3: knew he could score. But I was just like I

577
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 3: ain't think he was just gonna come through it. You know,

578
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 3: I like from you know, everybody from the loop do

579
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 3: the thing. You know what I'm saying. I just had

580
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:43,919
Speaker 3: to put that out there. I tell you, I just

581
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 3: had to put that out there. I knew he king.

582
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, come from the loo.

583
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 3: You know.

584
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:50,679
Speaker 5: Just just let y'all know.

585
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 1: When I came up, I got the opportunity to play

586
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 1: at Mike Camp and play against Jordan and other college

587
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,400
Speaker 1: players when I was fourteen years old. Fifteen years old,

588
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 1: I was playing program the Bonner League and got a

589
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 1: chance to play against Anthony Bonner and Larry Hughes and

590
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,640
Speaker 1: get them type of experiences. What was them key moments

591
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 1: when you was coming up young, And it was an

592
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 1: experience that like, oh I've seen a different level.

593
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 5: It made me level.

594
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 6: Up for me, you know, like you said, playing in

595
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 6: the Bottle League, you know, in the summertime, every weekend.

596
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 6: You know, I remember that from as early as I remember,

597
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 6: you know, walking and just being with my dad and

598
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 6: I remember we used to pull up to the gym

599
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 6: and you had the all black Phantom sitting outside.

600
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 5: And I used to call my mom, like my blad.

601
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 3: He got a fantom that I'm gonna give one aspiring.

602
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 6: Bond league was in the hood and he had to

603
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:46,400
Speaker 6: sitting outside like trophy. You know, I was only eight, nine,

604
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 6: ten years old, but you know that's all I wanted

605
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 6: to do was just just go to the gym, shoot

606
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,919
Speaker 6: on the side, hoop and then when y'all started playing,

607
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 6: you know, make sure I was watching because my part.

608
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 6: He would always make me sit down when the game started.

609
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 6: I remember that I had to watch and he would

610
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,400
Speaker 6: ask me. He would always ask me on the way home,

611
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 6: like what you see how you how you see Darius score?

612
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 5: You know how many drugs did he take?

613
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 6: And at a young age, he made me realize, like,

614
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,439
Speaker 6: you know, how to really just think the game instead

615
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 6: of just trying.

616
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 5: To go out there and does not check.

617
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's like cheating on the test. You got the answer.

618
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 3: You gotta make sure you studying in them experiences.

619
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 4: So yeah, they started with me fourth grade.

620
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 2: I mean, my dad was taking me to New York

621
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:33,199
Speaker 2: to trying to think about the recreation center. It was

622
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 2: in the Bronx and that's when my dad grew up.

623
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,439
Speaker 2: So he used to take me to every Saturday and

624
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 2: then I just remember I was probably like five or six,

625
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 2: and we were in the lap line and I'm like

626
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 2: thinking about this too, just imagining it. Everybody's going up

627
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 2: with their right hands, and my dad is like waiting

628
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 2: at half court, and then everybody starts.

629
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 4: Going on their left hands.

630
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 2: And you know, when you're five and six, most kids

631
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 2: are still shooting on the left side with their right hand.

632
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 2: And I was the only player in the line that

633
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 2: was going up and like trying to my dad.

634
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 4: Was like, not work on it. He was like, not

635
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 4: work on it. You need to have this, you need

636
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 4: to have this, and he was like, nah.

637
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 3: State.

638
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 2: So when I used to go home, that's how my

639
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 2: dad trained me, like turn on the car lights, put

640
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 2: the cones out, built the hoop out there behind between

641
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 2: behind crossover, and he used to like get mad at

642
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 2: me when I didn't want to do moves his way.

643
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 2: Like that's when I knew. I was like, all right,

644
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be a rebel. I'm gonna be a rebel

645
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 2: for the rest of all. I'm like, I'm like, he

646
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 2: was like, yo, you gotta do it this way, and

647
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 2: you gotta get your power from your back.

648
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 4: Then I'm like, Dad, but I could do it this way, and.

649
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 2: I'm quicker, like yeah, so and then I started kind

650
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 2: of figuring out, like all right, I gotta start working

651
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 2: on my own. So I just used my backyard, snow

652
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 2: rain whatever, going to the park, trying to be the

653
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 2: best in West Ems where I was from, then in

654
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 2: Jersey on my county, then around the county and then

655
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 2: the state, and then trying to be the best in

656
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 2: the country. But my dad was always telling me, like

657
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 2: I had to beat my dad first. I didn't be

658
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 2: until I was sixteen, so that shit really bothered.

659
00:29:58,520 --> 00:29:59,959
Speaker 3: Me, like I had to wait sixteen.

660
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 2: He used to beat that dude like sixteen years, trying

661
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 2: to be the master at work, like and my dad

662
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 2: played that bu did his thing, but he was just

663
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 2: he shot from behind his head.

664
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 4: He did like crazy. He did some crazy team at

665
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 4: the free throw line.

666
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 2: And then he used to tell me about my uncle Rod,

667
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 2: but he didn't really like explain to me how good

668
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 2: my uncle Rod was, like he was a bad dude,

669
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 2: like so you know, and then it was like I

670
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 2: would watch him play pick up and I would sit

671
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 2: on my ball and I was watch him, just watch watch,

672
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 2: and I.

673
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 4: Go in the park. I going to Park.

674
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 2: I'd be like, damn, my dad. My dad used to

675
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 2: hit like these crazy off glass shots, and that's what

676
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 2: I love most. Like he was like, why don't you

677
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 2: use the glass glass? And that's when in the games,

678
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 2: when I start taking those crazy shots. I learned that

679
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 2: from my dad, Like use the glass, Like that's the

680
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 2: best thing.

681
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 5: Crazy shots.

682
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 1: I say, you float that thing from the free throw line.

683
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 5: That's cool. That's a free throw line.

684
00:30:55,160 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 3: So that's that's where you're just around out the game.

685
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 3: I was like, my elbow, that looked good, Loosten. That's

686
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 3: what I told. Like when I told Jay the same thing,

687
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 3: Like I said, I ain't think you was gonna be

688
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 3: that nice, right you remem when we first met you

689
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 3: at Jay House, He's like, you say, sizing me up something.

690
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, like, I know, I don't look like no.

691
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 3: Man, like he said, we ain't get it, but a

692
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 3: simple say he played like ten eleven games and cousee.

693
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm like this little dude, frail, he little.

694
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 3: I'm like, man, I'm like, I don't know. I asked you,

695
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 3: I I don't know. I gotta see just like you

696
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 3: tell your just like that right here, you got the

697
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 3: little ass wild on you. All right, I'm all right,

698
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 3: I got it whatever right because you remember you and

699
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 3: real my homeboy playing two K and how wrong we

700
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 3: in there playing two K and all that. So I'm like,

701
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 3: cause I was still in I was this was my

702
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 3: last year I played Miami the year he came. So

703
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 3: we came and checked them out. I'm like, all right,

704
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 3: cool man, buddy, get the booge. And I'm like, all right,

705
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,959
Speaker 3: so I tell you know the real Yeah, heamn, all right,

706
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 3: tell him all right, he said, okay, okay. But then

707
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 3: it's like to me, in my opinion, like when the

708
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 3: lights is they brightest and they shine they by you

709
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 3: show up your biggest Like this is what I mean

710
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 3: by that, Like you went to the Rookie Game, got

711
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 3: Rookie Game MVP, you won a three point contests, you

712
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 3: went on the MV. I mean, you went in the

713
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 3: finals and you hit the big shot to win it.

714
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,479
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like in those moments when

715
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 3: you got your chance when you serve notice a USA camp,

716
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 3: when all the stars was down, you going through that

717
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 3: thing like curly Mill and showing up like look I'm here,

718
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 3: Like I'm telling you I'm like Jay, when you want

719
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 3: a three point contest, I say, Jay, I say, wait

720
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 3: a minute, young boy got a little switch like when

721
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 3: the lights show up, like he he got he turned special,

722
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 3: like like some of the greatest shooters the ain't never

723
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 3: won a three point contexts.

724
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 5: And you don't show no type of like s like.

725
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 3: Them shots like Ron said here gave him the ball

726
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 3: and everybody stood on this side of the court, and

727
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 3: what he did he the lift for like like that's special.

728
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 3: Like so what you feel like you got? You you

729
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 3: got that from just to like when it's when it's

730
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 3: the most on the line, when it's when it's when

731
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 3: it's go time, Like I'm in my best moment, I'm cool,

732
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 3: calm and collected, Like that's what I know. I want

733
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 3: a three point content and I'm and I lost too,

734
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 3: so I know. And you know, like it's like you

735
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 3: gotta find that you gotta find that zone where you

736
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 3: speeding up but you still in your cheer because you

737
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 3: don't you gotta get them off, but you gotta be

738
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,479
Speaker 3: you gotta have you, and it's like it's hard to do.

739
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 3: It's like it's not an easy thing. You think it's

740
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 3: like nah, it's not easy, Like when you sit on

741
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 3: that little stump and it's like it's your turn. Ship

742
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 3: just got real.

743
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get when it gets like that, that's when

744
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 2: it's like, that's when it gets fun.

745
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 4: Like that's when the time of the.

746
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 2: Game where it gets so fun from it because the

747
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 2: unexpected can happen and what you've been working on.

748
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 4: I feel like it's a chance to really show.

749
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 2: Like, Okay, you thought I was about to do this,

750
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 2: you've been watching this, but shit, I'm already know what

751
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 2: I'm doing out here, and then you have a flow

752
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,839
Speaker 2: and then playing against the best it is nothing like it.

753
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 2: Like I love being in that competitive environment, going against the.

754
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 4: Best of the best.

755
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 2: Everybody's up to play, like, you know how in the

756
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 2: regular season it could get it could get repetitive, like

757
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, and you like, where's the

758
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 2: competition like, and then you know it's maybe a TV game.

759
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 4: You want to like, you want to have fun doing it.

760
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 2: And I think the biggest thing, well I try to

761
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 2: share with him is that it's a marathon.

762
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 4: But in the meantime you could do things.

763
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 2: To help yourself prepare for what the moments look like

764
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 2: down the line. So that eight point stretch that you're

765
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,320
Speaker 2: trying to get, like, okay, get a quick layup or

766
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 2: get a three, get to the free throw line.

767
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 4: Now you got a quick seven. You're really trying to

768
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 4: average twenty five for the season. All right, this is

769
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:50,879
Speaker 4: how you get your twenty five.

770
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 2: Like map it out in four quarters, like all right,

771
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 2: gonna be agressive for the next three minutes. It doesn't

772
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 2: mean don't pass. It just means like, do what you do.

773
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 2: So it's like now it's like you pinpoint manage the game.

774
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,800
Speaker 2: And then in the bigger games, I'm like, all I

775
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,240
Speaker 2: gotta manage it even more. Now I need my teammates.

776
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 2: But how do I get my teammates to raise their level?

777
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 2: I raised my level, like let's go for the guts

778
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 2: and glory. You already know those type knights when it's like, kay,

779
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 2: ain't fucking around, like let's go, let's do it bro

780
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 2: like let's rock.

781
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:16,760
Speaker 4: Because we're gonna see them again.

782
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 2: I came in a time where the point guard position

783
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 2: was being revolutionized, so like now it was coming like

784
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 2: the ball it was twenty eleven, like John was the

785
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,240
Speaker 2: year before me that got drafted.

786
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 4: Dame came one year after me.

787
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,879
Speaker 2: Steph was like really starting to get healthy and hit

788
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 2: his stride, and Steve Nash was still in the league, but.

789
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 4: That idea of that point guard was like he has

790
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:40,879
Speaker 4: to score more.

791
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 2: Like Steve Nash was getting you know, his fourteen and

792
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 2: thirteen and he was cool like fifteen and fifteen like

793
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 2: really just diamond. And then it was like Steph was

794
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 2: getting forty and eight now and he's pulling these unbelievable threes.

795
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 2: And then John is speed demon up and down the

796
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 2: floor getting up them possessions. Like so like me coming out,

797
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 2: I'm like, what's gonna be my new it? Like where

798
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 2: I see John? Okay, they're going under his screens. Okay,

799
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 2: so they're going to enter me.

800
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 3: Enter the most unbelievable layup package in the history of

801
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 3: the game. He boy these big boys without dunking on them. Everybody.

802
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 3: I'm hey, listen, I told you, I say, yo, this

803
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 3: man layout package. I don't know if it's because of

804
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 3: Uncle Rod or what was going on, but this man

805
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:27,320
Speaker 3: lay up packages you're talking about. Smitty's under the rim

806
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 3: Boy used.

807
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 5: To spend it off the corner of the Black Boy

808
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 5: and make it go in.

809
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 3: All the time.

810
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 5: I used to concentrate up. She used to do that.

811
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 5: I used to hate that. I couldn't do that.

812
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 3: I used to do that. I was sure you just

813
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 3: standing still like in practice under the rim. I ain't

814
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 3: never did that in the game as a layup. When

815
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 3: he said I used to do that, I used to

816
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 3: be like, were staying there, bus and around? I could

817
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 3: twirl it, Yeah, I could twil it. Thought life did

818
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 3: half the layups? Did this boy?

819
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 5: Be?

820
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 3: Knowing? Boy? I'd be like, oh man, I can't.

821
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 2: I didn't have that length, like like John. So I

822
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 2: was like, and I had been watching John too, because

823
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 2: I was like, I was in love with his athleticism,

824
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 2: like he's just.

825
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 4: Just left hand, like and I was. I used to

826
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 4: donk with my left hand.

827
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 2: I used like I wanted to be in my backyard

828
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 2: trying to dunk and like the athletic catching oops. And

829
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 2: I'm like, nah, I started going there where Andrew buying

830
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:26,280
Speaker 2: him and freak Andrew Boget. Motherfucker's bodying me. I'm falling

831
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 2: on the floor. No let me let me all right.

832
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 2: So now it's like, all right, I'm gonna use my athleticism.

833
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 2: Now I gotta get craftier. I gotta beat guys to

834
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 2: the rim. If I body him, I gotta see angles

835
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,760
Speaker 2: the basketball and the leather of the basketball is different

836
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 2: than what I played with in college. So like the

837
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 2: Nike basketballs used to spend like they used to really

838
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 2: really spind on the glass, like the leather, and then

839
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 2: when I got to the league, the leather is like

840
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 2: you know how when it only time it gets like

841
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 2: you could feel it is when it's wet, Like.

842
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 3: When he's saying to me, everybody, he's saying, you know how,

843
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:58,280
Speaker 3: I don't know how. This is the whole different level

844
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 3: of helling the ball and like being one with the ball.

845
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 3: He talking about the leathers, and I do get as

846
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 3: a shooter. Yeah, the college balls was, but like when

847
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 3: you start talking, I ain't handle the ball like that.

848
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 3: So I'm I'm I'm go ahead. I'm being educated right now.

849
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 4: I just had to adjust.

850
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 2: So just adjusting to like the athleticism that I was

851
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,280
Speaker 2: lacking but making up for it and being craft here.

852
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 6: For me, as y'all probably knows, just when you when

853
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 6: you first get to the league, it's like you're trying

854
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 6: to prove a point and prove to everybody that you

855
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 6: know you belong and not only belonged, but that you

856
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 6: know you're gonna be one of the best players. And

857
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 6: you know, that's the mindset I had from the first game,

858
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 6: and especially when the playoffs come because you know, in

859
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 6: the playoffs that's when not just basketball fans, but everybody

860
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 6: watched basketball. So that's the biggest stage, and you know,

861
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 6: I got to take advantage of the opportunity. So I

862
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 6: wanted to prove that, like you know, the playoffs is

863
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 6: you know, the biggest stage, and then I could perform

864
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 6: on the highest level. You know, as a young player,

865
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 6: that's really big. You know, you're trying to make a

866
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 6: point and you know, let it be known that you

867
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 6: just able to be you know in the league.

868
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 3: For a young guy coming in, you got like a

869
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 3: unique game. It's not a lot of not a young guys.

870
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 3: They either shoot the three or just get to the

871
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 3: whole and try and done. Like for you, you got

872
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 3: a serious mid range game, so you can mid range,

873
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 3: post up. You got the height, the link to shoot

874
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,439
Speaker 3: over with people. You're great at you know what I'm saying,

875
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 3: creating separation with different moves, getting your stepped back off

876
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 3: and doing being able to do different things like he

877
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 3: played like an og right now, he got like an

878
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 3: old school type game just from the standpoint, and he

879
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 3: not out there three point thirsty. So he was really

880
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 3: using a mid rang game. And that's something that you

881
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 3: know these days, that's not a big part of the NBA.

882
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,439
Speaker 3: As a young boy, how did you get that going

883
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:40,919
Speaker 3: that soon?

884
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 5: You know, my dad he like six six, but he

885
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 5: was a he was a big man.

886
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 3: So he's strong. Yeah, trust me, I played against him

887
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:55,439
Speaker 3: in college. Trust me confidence, Saint Louis. No legs, yeah,

888
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,720
Speaker 3: no leg that he skipped legs just and I'm calling

889
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:05,240
Speaker 3: you out now, I'm telling look like a strength coach.

890
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 3: My whole body like one of them.

891
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 6: You know when when I was younger, because my mom's tall,

892
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 6: so you know, he knew I was gonna be tall,

893
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 6: and he didn't want, you know, somebody to just label

894
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 6: me as a big man. So he wanted me to

895
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 6: play the perimeter. But you know, when you're young, everybody

896
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 6: just wanted to shoot threes and do floaters, try to

897
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 6: smack the glass till you can dunk. So with with

898
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 6: with me, you know, he wanted me to try to

899
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 6: be different, you know, try to be able to score

900
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 6: from everywhere. So we were going to gym, and you know,

901
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 6: we would just jab step in the middle of the

902
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 6: of the floor and jab step on a wing, one

903
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 6: dribble to the right, one dribil.

904
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 5: To the left to like that was just like all

905
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 5: I knew.

906
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 6: And then I start remember I had YouTube and Kobe

907
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 6: was my favorite player. And I remember one day he

908
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 6: came in a gym and I just started doing like

909
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 6: turn around fadeaways. He like, what the hell are you doing?

910
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 6: But I was like, Yo, that that's my favorite playing.

911
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 6: I would practice it on my own until it came

912
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 6: a part of my game. You know, my dad was

913
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 6: the first one. You know, he just tried to teach

914
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,800
Speaker 6: me everything that you know, nobody really taught him, because

915
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 6: you know, he wanted.

916
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 5: Me to try to reach one goal.

917
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: Since you speaking of Kobe, like we wanted to ask

918
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: you'all the things that you got from Kobe, since both

919
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 1: of y'all had a chance to work well with them

920
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: and pick his brain and get all the jewels that

921
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: he could have dropped off on y'all.

922
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 3: Toy, What's so.

923
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: I was that experience and to be like, shit, Kobe

924
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,479
Speaker 1: my homeboy, Like I got his number, I can call.

925
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 3: And did he tell you.

926
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: I know that's a real at you say you're welcome,

927
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 1: So tell us about that experience.

928
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 6: That was unreal moment for me, just you know, being

929
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 6: so young and first year in the league. You know,

930
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 6: Kobe has always been my favorite player since you know.

931
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 6: I can't remember. So I was like two or three

932
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 6: years old, and I remember in the playoffs he was

933
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 6: doing the detailed thing, and I remember I got out

934
00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 6: of practice. I looked at my phone and I saw

935
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 6: he tweeted me, and I like dropped my phone out,

936
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 6: like yo. So I remember I watching it at least

937
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 6: fifty times, and then you know, he got my number.

938
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 6: He was texting me throughout the playoffs and he was saying,

939
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 6: you know, you're ever in l A.

940
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 5: You know you want to work out, you know, just

941
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 5: let me know.

942
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 6: As soon as I got to l A, I text him,

943
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 6: I'm here, you know, whenever you got time, you know,

944
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 6: let me know.

945
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 3: Like how nervous was you when you was doing the text.

946
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,320
Speaker 3: I hope you're gonna text me back. I hope he

947
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:30,879
Speaker 3: really meant it right, Like, trust me, I read about

948
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 3: him first.

949
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 6: He just went on and the crazy thing is he

950
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 6: took two days and text me back.

951
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 3: You're looking at it every hour. Say delivery. I know,

952
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 3: say delivery. It went, it went to something number, It

953
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 3: went to the number again. Make sure I didn't want

954
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:55,720
Speaker 3: to text him again. That was part of the mama

955
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 3: man mentality, has to make sure you was ready.

956
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 5: He ain't text me for two days, so he text me.

957
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 3: I texted right back immediately. It was like a replies, well,

958
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 3: you know, here, right here, right.

959
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:13,240
Speaker 5: Right around the corner.

960
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 3: What happens. Though, it happens.

961
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 6: We got a chance to work out, and I met

962
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,399
Speaker 6: with him like two or three times, but we worked

963
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 6: out once and uh, you know, uh it was it

964
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 6: was great, you know, just the little things that you know,

965
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 6: he said that he paid attention to watch my game

966
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 6: and the things that you know, he did when he

967
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 6: was working on the summer. He was telling me like

968
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 6: one summer he was like, I just worked on my Oververse

969
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 6: pivot for three months and he was like, that's when

970
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:39,760
Speaker 6: I averaged like thirty seven.

971
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 3: But me say, like I had to I had to

972
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 3: really see that movie up close and personal. That is

973
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 3: the mambo, like we got drafted in the midst of

974
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 3: the first three. That was the one dude like he'll

975
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 3: do anything, y'all watch them shoot left hand threes, like

976
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 3: left hand anything whatever, like you through anything on the court,

977
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 3: like for real though, like you know, like the way

978
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 3: I played, I was like, all right, I'm i'm an,

979
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 3: I'm Chicago, I'm a g I'm a beast.

980
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 4: Try him.

981
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 3: He's smart enough to know, Okay, you can't fight me

982
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 3: out here. You're not gonna be thereat up. And like

983
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 3: you know how people all, yeah, I'm trying. I'm ana forty,

984
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 3: I'm a he really gonna fifty, really gonna forty, he

985
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 3: really gonna sixty, he really gonna eighty one. You know

986
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like you ain't seen nothing like this, boy,

987
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, Like that's why I say, like in

988
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 3: the conversation, a lot of people, I feel like he

989
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 3: just get left out of this hole. How they say

990
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 3: Lebron and mj Like, like in my humble opinion, it's

991
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 3: mj Z and him, my peers, the people that I

992
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 3: know when we sitting and we talk, it's a complete difference.

993
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 3: It's a complete difference you're talking about or just yeah,

994
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 3: when you talk about Cole and Lebron, it's a different shack.

995
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:00,399
Speaker 5: It seemed like he had something prove.

996
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: And that's when he was getting them forty games in

997
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: the row and the multiple forty games from sixty games

998
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 1: and Man eight.

999
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 3: One, forties and fifties on the days he had to

1000
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 3: fly in on game they coming from trialing.

1001
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he was. She went on a turf from

1002
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 1: like that last year on.

1003
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 3: We traveled. None of us. We don't. We don't do

1004
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 3: that for a reason. SMN was coming in. Whatever you

1005
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 3: want to say, Jed LaGG or what have you, Like,

1006
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 3: we'll complain if we get in late, you know what

1007
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like, Man, we the flight got in. We

1008
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 3: got in in like three in the morning, and they

1009
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 3: report that or something like man was getting in hours

1010
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 3: before the game fresh from a crazy stressful scenario and

1011
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 3: body and whoever in front of him.

1012
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,760
Speaker 1: The numbers y'all put up in the finals, the forty

1013
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 1: point games you and Lebron put up together.

1014
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 5: I haven't seen that since.

1015
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 1: Kobe and Shaq like two players just so dominant that

1016
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 1: you can't stop. It's like I'm giving it to Kobe,

1017
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 1: I'm giving it to Shock. That's how how dominant they was.

1018
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 1: Like if Shaq had thirty nine, Kobe had thirty six,

1019
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 1: you know, it was like and to see y'all when

1020
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:05,479
Speaker 1: y'all was doing that, it was like, Man, I ain't

1021
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: seen that in a minute, Like that's you know, when

1022
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: they was doing that, it was two thousand to two

1023
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,839
Speaker 1: thousand and three. So for y'all to do it, then

1024
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 1: that was the first time I seen players to be

1025
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: on the team and it was just them two so

1026
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,240
Speaker 1: dominant that man, y'all putting up eighty some points together.

1027
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 2: And that's and that's why, that's why I went to

1028
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:28,479
Speaker 2: him for advice, was being part of a great duo,

1029
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 2: a great team. And you he Ron's at a point

1030
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 2: in his career and I'm a point in my career.

1031
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 2: He has a vision for what he wants it to

1032
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 2: look like for the rest of the way he's playing,

1033
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 2: and then I have a vision of what I wanted

1034
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 2: to look like over the course of this, you know

1035
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 2: what I mean.

1036
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:45,879
Speaker 4: Our windows are different right now.

1037
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 2: Like he's still an incredible player, but I'm like, yo,

1038
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 2: I want to I'm right here with you, and I

1039
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 2: want the respect I want, you know, I want to

1040
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 2: earn it. I'm going out there to try to prove

1041
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 2: something just like you are. I want to I want

1042
00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 2: the accolades I want. I want to do all that.

1043
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 2: I want my own shoes. Yeah, I want those same goals.

1044
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 2: And like I see the same thing and what me

1045
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 2: and Jay talk about now we're six years apart, and

1046
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 2: I try to tell.

1047
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 4: Him, I'm like, look, I'm a liaison between all of this.

1048
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 2: I want you to be strive for greatness and I'm

1049
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 2: gonna help, Like I'm whatever you need me to do,

1050
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 2: I'll get out your way once you get to that point,

1051
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 2: like that's what you go ahead, like, yeah, you want

1052
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 2: to go take it. And I tell Jay as well,

1053
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, me and you and this going for

1054
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,320
Speaker 2: the guts and glory when it's all on the line,

1055
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 2: I know I need you right next to me, so

1056
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 2: let's get this thing going. And and I have different

1057
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 2: relationship with all my teammates, but specifically with him.

1058
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 3: That's what I love. But that's why I love this

1059
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 3: whole and there like it's family. And that's why I say,

1060
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,399
Speaker 3: like we genuinely watch y'all all the time, we root

1061
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 3: for y'all the time, Like you know what I'm saying,

1062
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 3: because it's like you said, like everybody love all their

1063
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 3: teammates and all of that stuff. But like you said,

1064
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,359
Speaker 3: like this, it's a different scenario. You feel like this

1065
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 3: is like a little brother to you.

1066
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:58,399
Speaker 4: Like I was, love call him a little brother.

1067
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 7: I don't want a little big same thing with me

1068
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 7: and him, No same thing like I I was the

1069
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 7: big brother, but he was bigger than me or whatever,

1070
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 7: and he's still He went number three, I won eighteen,

1071
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 7: but it was still a big little brother thing.

1072
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 1: But it's like a lot of people from the outside

1073
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: looking there would have thought that I was probably superior.

1074
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 3: When we got to the league. They thought people didn't

1075
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 3: even know I was in NBA. Sometimes they thought it

1076
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 3: was his homeboy. They thought it was like literally, he

1077
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 3: was first.

1078
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 1: I always treated him like my big brother because he was.

1079
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: He was always older than me, and I came up

1080
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: under him. So you know, the respect there is just

1081
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: like I ain't gonna never disrespect that, you know.

1082
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 5: What I'm saying.

1083
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 3: That's why I love for you to be that big

1084
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 3: brother for him, not only because you one of the

1085
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 3: best players in the league and you can show him

1086
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:43,879
Speaker 3: what it is to be like that, because I feel

1087
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 3: like he's headed at the race, so you can show

1088
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 3: him how to handle itself with that, but just in general,

1089
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 3: you know how it is when you come in this league,

1090
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 3: you need that. You know, whether you'll realize that when

1091
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:55,919
Speaker 3: you get way further down the league when you see

1092
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 3: different people in your class. Uppill didn't have the same thing,

1093
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 3: because you don't realize it why you win it when

1094
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 3: you have it, and when it's there, when it's right

1095
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 3: up in your face all the time, and it's there

1096
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,919
Speaker 3: from day one, you think it's the norm. So it's

1097
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 3: something that you may take for granted, may not even

1098
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 3: be aware of how good you got it. Somebody y'all

1099
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 3: got the same agent, y'all got, Jeff and the Man

1100
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 3: do on the same page. You all, it's a whole

1101
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 3: family of him that's been through everything six times over.

1102
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 3: They could tell you this. Then the third that could be.

1103
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 3: You know, sometimes it's gonna be something that you may

1104
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 3: don't want to hear. Sometimes it may be something that

1105
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 3: you need to hear that you might don't need to

1106
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 3: hear from Jeff or Man. Then he's the perfect person

1107
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 3: to be able to deliver it to you because he

1108
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 3: is more of a peer. And it's not from this

1109
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 3: adult figure or you know, authority figure type situation where

1110
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 3: it's a it's a peer. Y'all could chill be chilling

1111
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 3: at the crib playing video games, and he'd be like, yo,

1112
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 3: such and such and such, and it's something that you know,

1113
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 3: your best friend your popshow. Nobody can tell you because

1114
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 3: y'all in that practice facility, y'all and everything that was

1115
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 3: the thing that me and him had. Nobody could, Like,

1116
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 3: our best friend can't sit there and come on this

1117
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 3: because you weren't there. You just gonna say something because

1118
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,839
Speaker 3: you're my best friend. He can tell me from the stance, Well,

1119
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 3: I can tell him from the stance like, nah, I

1120
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 3: was there for the entire thing. You was wrong when.

1121
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 5: You did this, You was right when you did that.

1122
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 3: But like I was there, I'm not just speaking and

1123
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 3: trying to side with you, Like that's what. He can

1124
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 3: keep it real and be honest with you and be

1125
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 3: authentic and help you in those ways. And Jeff can't

1126
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 3: see jee this, but he can be there and you

1127
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 3: know that's a genuine authentic and he's in your corner

1128
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 3: type deal and you don't have to question that because

1129
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 3: every team is not the same. You know.

1130
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:36,399
Speaker 1: This leads to the other question, Like what I want

1131
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: you to touch on is like none of us from

1132
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 1: Saint Louis ever been in the type of organization or

1133
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: played in the organization like the Celtics. You're coming from

1134
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,839
Speaker 1: Saint Louis and getting the opportunity to come right out

1135
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 1: the gates. So such a historic organization.

1136
00:50:50,320 --> 00:51:04,320
Speaker 3: Y'all hate you. They always mentioned got like nobody from St. Louis.

1137
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 1: So I'm just saying no, because like you you know,

1138
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: because like you was in Cleveland, they was, they was losing,

1139
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 1: and you know, how to be different than you walk

1140
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 1: into an organization that, like every organization is not the Lakers,

1141
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 1: the Knicks, the Celtics, you know what I'm saying, have

1142
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: this type of environment, but you know, going into it.

1143
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 3: Like what type of environment does the does the those

1144
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 3: three teams, But.

1145
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:32,800
Speaker 1: They got they got a history of they got a

1146
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: different type of history and when you walk into like

1147
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 1: these are these are teams that's been there forever.

1148
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 2: No, but he's saying, I think I give what you saying.

1149
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 2: I give what you're saying. Don't let him, don't let him.

1150
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,760
Speaker 5: Take away franchise, like the Celtics say.

1151
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 1: Just Danny Ames and the history and what he brings

1152
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: and the expectations you have, and y'all the expectations.

1153
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 5: That Celtics that they have for y'all.

1154
00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 1: What do y'all What's the type of feeling did y'all

1155
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 1: get when you walked in? The type of well he

1156
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,760
Speaker 1: he was drafted and I tell him, like, how special

1157
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 1: that is? Draft you got drafted by the Celtics like

1158
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 1: Danny Aings three time champion president drafted he saw something

1159
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 1: in you, not just for two years, three years, but

1160
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 1: like down the line of being a franchise player. He

1161
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 1: traded for me like I was in the midst of

1162
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 1: my career where it was like I had gone into

1163
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 1: Cleveland And I tell him this too of what it

1164
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:37,439
Speaker 1: looks like on the other side of being a top

1165
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 1: draft pick and going in and the team had just

1166
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 1: lost twenty eight in the row the last season, so

1167
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 1: I didn't have the had Antoine James, Anthony Parker and Saveraja,

1168
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:51,360
Speaker 1: but the veteran leadership of being around like somebody in

1169
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: my position that I could. You know, Look, it was

1170
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 1: like having my sessions where I had to battle, but

1171
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: you know I won that battle. Initially, once I first

1172
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:01,879
Speaker 1: started on camp, I was like, I'm going at him,

1173
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 1: I'm taking his fact.

1174
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 4: I'm starting now, Like but there's no disrespect. But that's

1175
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 4: what you gotta do with you.

1176
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 2: I did deal with a lot of losing, and that

1177
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 2: shit sucked, Like I took a lot of the responsibility.

1178
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: One seventeen out of eighty two in Cleveland. We got

1179
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: bet every year, we got better every year, but seventeen

1180
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:22,240
Speaker 1: out of eighty two in Cleveland.

1181
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 2: And I and I tell Jaden's too, like of what

1182
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 2: it looks like being on the other side of like

1183
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 2: this is not bad.

1184
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 4: Struggling to find chemistry and continuity.

1185
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 2: Heaven not bad being in where you're thinking about where

1186
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:38,479
Speaker 2: you're going for All Star Break already because you're waiting

1187
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 2: for All Star Break to end, to get to the

1188
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 2: end of the season.

1189
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 3: He said, he said, trying to figure it out, like

1190
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 3: you know that, Like, Okay, we need to figure it out.

1191
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 3: Then we're gonna be straight. Like what he's talking about

1192
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,839
Speaker 3: is like there's no figuring anything out nothing. It's just like,

1193
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 3: let's take these ass whoopings and we're gonna go to

1194
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 3: All Start. Then by April sixteen, my car is gonna

1195
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 3: be home with flights is already, like let's get this game.

1196
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 3: Like you know what I'm saying. We we lived that

1197
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 3: being with the Clippers, like and.

1198
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 5: No fellas take that shot.

1199
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 3: We got to get to the next city. Sick in Chicago,

1200
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 3: and so last week out in here, like I just

1201
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 3: think they play man, the player.

1202
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 5: Going just up and then we're going through all kinds

1203
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:26,720
Speaker 5: of storms.

1204
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 3: Is the other things that I loved, and it was

1205
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 3: tied into this whole family thing. Like last year it

1206
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,919
Speaker 3: was it was wag you got hurt or whatever, but like.

1207
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 5: Young boy got the repord, you got to step up.

1208
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 3: The boy was repping the shoes, breaking out all the

1209
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 3: new shoes from day one. You lucky to have, like

1210
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,319
Speaker 3: it ain't many people like every shoe being killed. Yeah

1211
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 3: I was.

1212
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 4: I was talking about j T two in terms of

1213
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 4: wearing the shoes that year. That was like all love

1214
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 4: to that was.

1215
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 3: That was I was telling Jay that I was, And

1216
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 3: you get to be like I'm the one featuring them.

1217
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 3: I'm wearing the new hotness on all of the blogs,

1218
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,439
Speaker 3: everything on every social.

1219
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 4: Give him everything, to give him whatever, give everything.

1220
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 3: A time out though, like the collapse like not like

1221
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 3: first of all, like I said, you already had like

1222
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 3: a six shoot the style, like just from you know

1223
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. I want the pro Scott. I was

1224
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 3: director of play development with the Pistols, and I saw

1225
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 3: plaining like I got to see everything people, Nike and

1226
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 3: all that from the first shoe, like how to collapse

1227
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 3: with like the whole general meal, Like that was sick,

1228
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 3: Like how you come with the cereal boxes, Jeff class

1229
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 3: every brad like that, Like that's j.

1230
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 4: Going to everybody like just working, like, Hey, we're gonna

1231
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:46,959
Speaker 4: we're gonna try to get you in the Wadi box.

1232
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 5: Wait what you know?

1233
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 2: Like how many Hoopers have been on the It's like

1234
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:56,439
Speaker 2: we gonna drew and you wait what Jeff Like, Yeah,

1235
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:57,959
Speaker 2: hold on, we're.

1236
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:01,359
Speaker 4: Gonna do a kicks in. We're gonna do it all now,

1237
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 4: we're gonna get you and we're gonna get you in

1238
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 4: the supermarket. Now we canna get your face on their Coco.

1239
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 4: I was like, yo, Jeff, go ahead of do you

1240
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 4: think Jeff? I was like I was sometimes I'll be like,

1241
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 4: come on, Jeff, let's let's go. I need you here,

1242
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 4: I need you there. I'm like, all right, all right,

1243
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 4: that is collapsed.

1244
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 1: We was big on shoes when we came out. We

1245
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 1: gotta We was fortunate to sign a deal with Jordan

1246
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 1: Brand and lucky man, Like we used to get lucky.

1247
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:28,359
Speaker 1: This was lucky, is lucky.

1248
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 2: Everybody that signs that Jordan brand knows that they get

1249
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:32,839
Speaker 2: freaking brock Low.

1250
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:34,879
Speaker 3: We was Jerry luck Low.

1251
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 4: So many shoes and Jordan, we don't even know what to.

1252
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 3: Do with them. Bro.

1253
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it that I had Jordan's that I

1254
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 1: folks was dying for back at home. Oh, I just

1255
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 1: couldn't believe that I was responsible. But we was getting them, man.

1256
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 1: We used to get exclusive shoes and we used to

1257
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 1: go to the mall. It wasn't no social media. We

1258
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 1: used to go to the mall so people can see

1259
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 1: them be like, yeah, you're gonna get them color.

1260
00:56:56,480 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 3: Now and stuff like employees and everybody, like what is

1261
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:03,839
Speaker 3: going on?

1262
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 2: Like with your shoe collection, show out that show both

1263
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 2: all y'all doing athletes is show love, showing.

1264
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 4: Up to appearances probably pair.

1265
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 3: A way better than not.

1266
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 1: So there's so many exclusive out that and so far on,

1267
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 1: Like even with with your shoe.

1268
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 5: Collection, like I said, you roll with Kyrie's stuff.

1269
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 3: But he was chopping at the bed. He ready for

1270
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 3: his shoe. Yeah, he ready for us for that, Like

1271
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 3: I like big bro. But I'm ready for my I'm

1272
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 3: perfect ahead.

1273
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 2: Yeah it's Tom Tom, get your colorways, your emblem.

1274
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 5: This is how you getting.

1275
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 4: This is where you start, like, this is where I

1276
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 4: started from.

1277
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 6: It definitely helps being with him, just seeing all the

1278
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 6: creative ideas that he has. Yeah, you know, looking at

1279
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 6: his shoes. You know, it definitely gives me some great ideas.

1280
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 1: Kyrie, with you, Like I said, everything you do be exclusive.

1281
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 1: That's why I like about everything that you do, from

1282
00:57:56,240 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 1: the Uncle drew, from the shoes, from everything with people

1283
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 1: talk about you, they don't give you the cred. I

1284
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 1: feel like you deserve not just on the court, but

1285
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 1: off the court of everything that you do exclusive. Explain

1286
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 1: some of your exclusive stuff. Yeah we're not giving too much,

1287
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 1: but you know the bright ideas like cause you're the

1288
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 1: only shoe that come out with collapse in WEAEDI boxes,

1289
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,479
Speaker 1: like you don't see nobody. Your stuff is so set

1290
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: out different from Jordan's, Lebron's pgs, Durant, Steph Curage. It's

1291
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 1: something exclusive about George. What makes yours and the ideas

1292
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 1: that you come with be so exclusive and so just

1293
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 1: on point.

1294
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 2: Well, I think the most important thing I try to

1295
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 2: show is love like I try to show love to

1296
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 2: the youth, to people that have come before me and

1297
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 2: the people that I'm in my generation with now, and

1298
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 2: then try to funnel a message through that.

1299
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 4: So like, if it's.

1300
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 2: If I feel like it's time to really put an

1301
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 2: emphasis and show a love light on women, then I

1302
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 2: want to release a women's only shoe. If I want

1303
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 2: to show something like homage to what I'm learning in

1304
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 2: terms of what I'm reading, then I'll have Nike and

1305
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 2: I'll tell them something like that. Or if it's something

1306
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 2: I want from my family and friends to pay how

1307
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 2: much to where I come from or what I've done,

1308
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 2: then I do that. But it was like I don't

1309
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 2: want to keep releasing stuff that about my accomplishments and

1310
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 2: things that I would like to release things that come

1311
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 2: from me, from what I mean as a person, and

1312
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 2: then how much people mean to me and how much

1313
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 2: I watch and appreciate people and who they are. I

1314
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 2: don't try to come out judgmental, like I just try

1315
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 2: to show Hella love those kids that are coming.

1316
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 4: Up, those are the next ones.

1317
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 2: Keep giving them free stuff like that's like, just keep

1318
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 2: giving them stuff because they can't always go out and

1319
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 2: get those hundred and seventy five dollars shoes too on

1320
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 2: their shoes, And there was a fight with Nike for

1321
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 2: a little bit, just with not a real fight, not

1322
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 2: a real fight, but it was like just keeping a

1323
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 2: price point at a great place so kids they can

1324
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 2: get the hot stuff like it's coming from a great background.

1325
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 2: I know what I'm doing, I know what knows love,

1326
00:59:57,960 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 2: appreciate Jordan's everything.

1327
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 4: I know how to pay how much to those before me.

1328
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 4: But the message that.

1329
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 3: I look, I think that's awesome. So right now we

1330
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 3: want to remind you were on the location in the boombone.

1331
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 3: You might hear the Disney fireworks in the background right

1332
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 3: now because they're starting to go off.

1333
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 4: Life to live, it's about that's what that's what I

1334
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 4: like to live.

1335
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 3: Our kids have no clue how life live. Disney fireworks

1336
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 3: Disney fireworks every night. And it's not like they don't

1337
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 3: even care to come out anymore. They've seen it so

1338
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 3: many times. Not a big deal.

1339
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 5: I know, it's a lot of money these days making

1340
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 5: in the NBA.

1341
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 1: What's the biggest thing y'all have bought outside of the house,

1342
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 1: the biggest thing you can purchase.

1343
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 3: What's the first thing you purchased.

1344
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 1: The first biggest thing you purchase Peel like that. I

1345
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 1: know you kind of fresh into the game of persons

1346
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 1: new things, and I know you new money was the first.

1347
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 3: Thing something like we all did that? On that?

1348
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 5: How much that was he already?

1349
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 3: No, look, he knows something already. This is when like

1350
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 3: you said, you like that. I can't believe. Did I

1351
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 3: see him got something on this risk right there?

1352
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 4: I mean.

1353
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 3: Exactly. I didn't have no road. We didn't come on, bro,

1354
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 3: we ain't have no I ain't even getting no rollie

1355
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 3: to what four. I wasn't in forth. You you way

1356
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 3: ahead of me. Bro, I ain't get no road like

1357
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 3: my knife year. I wouldn't even watch it like that.

1358
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 5: I was rollly you gotta get you a roller about

1359
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 5: my mama roll.

1360
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 3: I bought Jeff first big like when I got my

1361
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 3: first deal, my big deal with Phoenix. Ibout like Jeff

1362
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 3: for show you like to my Jerry McGuire. I got

1363
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 3: Jeff for rod. I didn't even I didn't have no

1364
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 3: rolling first she got it was nice Bahamas. You mean

1365
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 3: we all went to the Bahamas, Larry all and when.

1366
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 4: We go to Bahamas.

1367
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 3: Now I got a cardier. I got a Cardier watch

1368
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 3: there at the at the Cardio that was like the

1369
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 3: nice one with the I was the nicest watch I

1370
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 3: ever had. And then when me and Jay were in

1371
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 3: New York, he putting me on some grown man swagg

1372
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:09,480
Speaker 3: and I got a panor ride that was like the nicest, cleanest,

1373
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 3: Like I got compliments on that. That's a conversation piece

1374
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:19,920
Speaker 3: about you gotta learn or something like J and double

1375
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 3: death Man P A N R A. But no, that

1376
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 3: was just once again j E putting me up on swag.

1377
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 3: Because now when I'm around, I'm doing something. It's not

1378
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 3: a pan of my mind. You know, you know that's

1379
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 3: what it is. I know what's going on. Like j

1380
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 3: double boy, you got me a.

1381
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 1: Clean so what what what's the purchase that you purchase that?

1382
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 6: When I first got drafted. You know, my mom she

1383
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 6: moved to Boston. We both got apartments. I got her escalade,

1384
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 6: I got myself a range over y'all.

1385
01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 3: Saint Louis guys a lot of like when he moved

1386
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 3: l like my moa mouse came with him and you

1387
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 3: to you know, this is what we do. It's wrong

1388
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 3: with that. I'm just contelle.

1389
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:19,480
Speaker 6: But I remember, you know, I got this, like I

1390
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 6: got this during the jacket. He's just wearing.

1391
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 3: That. That's that new school drip, Like you know, that's

1392
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 3: that new script drip.

1393
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 6: I remember, you know Nelly from Saint Louis. I remember

1394
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 6: seeing Nelly know videos, he had a ROLLI was iced.

1395
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 5: Out, you go.

1396
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:38,919
Speaker 6: You know, Meek Mill got to watch this iced out?

1397
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:41,480
Speaker 6: So I was like, yo, after the playoffs, you get

1398
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 6: that playoff check said, I'm sorry, but you know, we

1399
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:50,240
Speaker 6: get to the Eastern Conference finals, I'm gonna give me at.

1400
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 3: I remember wait, wait, wait, that's not iceed out? So

1401
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 3: is there an I sed out rolling somewhere in existence?

1402
01:03:57,840 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 3: Is that what I need to know about? I paid

1403
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 3: to I pay attentions to context clues, he said, Ma,

1404
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 3: we get to these I'm getting the ice child, paying attention.

1405
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 3: That watch is not it's a roll, but it's not ice.

1406
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 4: So you know how it goes.

1407
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 2: Okay, you know, buying these purchases, you know, Mama is

1408
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 2: looking out for your best interest, So you got to

1409
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:18,600
Speaker 2: come up with a compromise.

1410
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 4: You gotta come up with a compromise.

1411
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 3: You get your rolex, but this is a compromise. This

1412
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:27,320
Speaker 3: is the confidence get out. Probably like he was like,

1413
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 3: boy boy, I slapped you. You get that big money,

1414
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 3: you get that ice, like right now, you're about to

1415
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 3: get this right here, and it's gonna be all right,

1416
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:36,680
Speaker 3: Like don't have your baby, don't have me. Had to

1417
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 3: put hands on you, Jason, you come up here with

1418
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 3: some one piece of ice on that thing. It's gonna

1419
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 3: be me and you eight million. Last year were on

1420
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 3: the budget, baby on the budget. Bro, we all had that.

1421
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 3: I got my first backlist. I couldn't even tell my

1422
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 3: pop how much you cast for? You said? He told me,

1423
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 3: you know what, don't tell me. He's like, because I

1424
01:04:58,240 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 3: don't want to have to do this.

1425
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 5: I was just like, you know, I'm just I wouldn't

1426
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 5: even walk in the bank.

1427
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 1: I thought I could just get three hundred dollars out

1428
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 1: of the day that I wouldn't even walk in the

1429
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 1: bank because I ain't never been in the bank.

1430
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:10,720
Speaker 5: Nobody take me in no bank to be like here.

1431
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 1: Took me in there and gave me account and was like, yeah,

1432
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 1: you can get three hundred dollars off this card every day.

1433
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 3: Say cold thanks, I won't be missed. A nice watch.

1434
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 3: What's the big purchase here? A little more advanced? Yeah,

1435
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:29,960
Speaker 3: so second contract, let's stay with the first, let's go

1436
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 3: let's say we're gonna keep it.

1437
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:32,200
Speaker 5: We're gonna keep it.

1438
01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 3: I just didn't like.

1439
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:37,920
Speaker 2: I didn't like he said something. He said somewhere. You know,

1440
01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:39,400
Speaker 2: I'm gonna let him talk.

1441
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 4: Okay, oh man uh.

1442
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 2: I came in during the lockout, so I had I

1443
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 2: had eight hundred grand in my name.

1444
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 4: I didn't get my money when.

1445
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 2: I first came out into the league, when I first

1446
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 2: got drafted, so my first purchase was a final. I

1447
01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:58,360
Speaker 2: just needed a whip. I was happy to have a whip.

1448
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:01,640
Speaker 2: That's not really a big ches, but I had grand

1449
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:02,040
Speaker 2: in my name.

1450
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:04,280
Speaker 4: I was like, you know, and then.

1451
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 2: As I started getting older, that's when my dad was

1452
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 2: like and then that's.

1453
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:09,240
Speaker 4: When my dad was like what.

1454
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:16,120
Speaker 2: That's when the pjs roliees like, you just get me

1455
01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 2: out here, responsible your money.

1456
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:29,720
Speaker 3: Thank you. Somebody say say the Rolex or the Jets

1457
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:34,640
Speaker 3: ridiculous or the PJ He said the roleg Jet.

1458
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:37,720
Speaker 2: That's the Then that's the then where I was like, yo,

1459
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 2: I need all of it. And then when I stopped

1460
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:41,960
Speaker 2: telling my dad about what I was buying on my

1461
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 2: debit card because it was like giving them, you know,

1462
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 2: what I mean, Amanda knows the shout out to Amanda

1463
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:47,200
Speaker 2: de generous.

1464
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 3: You make sure good.

1465
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:51,640
Speaker 2: Making sure she's good, make sure she keep everything, and

1466
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 2: like if Jeff gets winded it, I was like one

1467
01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:56,120
Speaker 2: time I had to tell Amanda. I was like, yo,

1468
01:06:56,280 --> 01:07:01,560
Speaker 2: stop telling Jack everything I'm buying, telling my dad what

1469
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:02,040
Speaker 2: I'm going?

1470
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 3: Are you kidding me?

1471
01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 2: Told on me too. I still love it to this day.

1472
01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 2: But Jeff told my dad and my dad calling me

1473
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 2: like are you trying to buy this?

1474
01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:16,160
Speaker 3: I'm like like when he get on the phone with you,

1475
01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:20,080
Speaker 3: was like, what's up, Jay, Like you're trying to figure

1476
01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 3: out what he knows first? Like yeah, so like you're like, okay,

1477
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:31,440
Speaker 3: it's cool, Like yeah, okay. So I thought he's waiting

1478
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 3: because the way every time he has he called you

1479
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 3: was like something's wrong, Like Jason like like you what

1480
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:40,400
Speaker 3: are you doing? Like what the hell are you doing?

1481
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 6: It?

1482
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:44,040
Speaker 3: Just don't okay, I'm trying to make sure you are

1483
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 3: you sound like something might be going on, like is

1484
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 3: everything okay?

1485
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:51,240
Speaker 1: Like I see his name, I'm like, what's what's go on?

1486
01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 3: Like you had to loosen him up, but I got

1487
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:55,560
Speaker 3: the rock. We had to measure with him I'm telling

1488
01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 3: you like we had to really we got that Jay,

1489
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:01,080
Speaker 3: Like y'all got a way back the matter Jay, Like

1490
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 3: we had to get that with him, like.

1491
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 5: He tells some stories about all the time, like.

1492
01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 3: We why never let him go, but like we don't

1493
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:12,880
Speaker 3: want to keep all no, we won't get last stuff

1494
01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 3: being trying to wrap it up. So we got a

1495
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:18,719
Speaker 3: little segment like it's a little dicey for you because

1496
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:20,559
Speaker 3: you was born Like right at the end of this,

1497
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:23,640
Speaker 3: it's called better in the nineties. We know you was

1498
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:27,360
Speaker 3: born right there. You know everything, so retro you feel

1499
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 3: like you still have a good, good amount of knowledge

1500
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:32,840
Speaker 3: or something of the stuff that oh yeah, oh him.

1501
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:35,679
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, yeah, don't say who like said

1502
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:40,320
Speaker 2: I was saying that the que lot change, yo, change.

1503
01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:41,960
Speaker 4: This is what I'm saying this WO be dealing in

1504
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 4: the locker.

1505
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 3: Room right now. Everything real life. Y'all seen the big

1506
01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:49,560
Speaker 3: butter little brother dynamic.

1507
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:52,599
Speaker 4: You're trying me all the time cute because they're not.

1508
01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 3: Slap him up, like put him in that you can't look.

1509
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:02,439
Speaker 2: I'll tell you one time though he he didn't want

1510
01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:03,759
Speaker 2: he didn't want to step out the bus.

1511
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:07,720
Speaker 3: Swear up. You don't want to step call me on

1512
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 3: the bus. He call me in a bus yo. I'm like, yo,

1513
01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:20,760
Speaker 3: you know, one of the team.

1514
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:23,599
Speaker 2: Now I gotta come up and be the tough guy.

1515
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:28,559
Speaker 2: Come on, man, you know we leaving stops. We leave

1516
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:31,800
Speaker 2: in Minnesota. He's sitting like three rows behind me. You know,

1517
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 2: he always talking. So I'm eating.

1518
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:35,600
Speaker 5: He walked up on me, like, what's up?

1519
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:41,439
Speaker 2: What's It's really my fault, It's really I'm eating.

1520
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:46,280
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm like, yo, everybody on the bus laughing.

1521
01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:49,439
Speaker 6: He's like all right, yeah, yeah, I wait, like five

1522
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 6: minutes about he back on the phone, took my book bag,

1523
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:57,680
Speaker 6: put him in the head, like real quick.

1524
01:09:58,479 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 3: What's up?

1525
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:04,640
Speaker 5: Now? These nineties topics? What better? Hair cuts better in

1526
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:08,000
Speaker 5: the nineties or they better now? I mean, some people

1527
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:09,719
Speaker 5: get their hair cut but don't get no lining.

1528
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:14,160
Speaker 3: The shady Oh man, let's let's speak on that. I mean,

1529
01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 3: I mean, let's speak on that, because I feel like

1530
01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 3: you got the crispy lining right now. You definitely are

1531
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:24,280
Speaker 3: posing that to my man's here. Look I went through

1532
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:26,920
Speaker 3: not now, but he and he had a frow he

1533
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:28,960
Speaker 3: had to throw with the head. But I like the head.

1534
01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:31,280
Speaker 3: I feel like you was wrapping in the head. What happened?

1535
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:35,640
Speaker 3: We was head? Did you did y'all catch that? That

1536
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:37,400
Speaker 3: was the knuckles? You know what I'm talking about.

1537
01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:39,439
Speaker 5: He go through a lot of phases.

1538
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:41,559
Speaker 2: I went through where I just let my beard grow,

1539
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 2: not get in the shape up. I was just like, yo,

1540
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm against the system right now.

1541
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 5: He was cutting his head but getting he was lashing out.

1542
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:51,559
Speaker 2: Cut cut, no shape up. Everybody like, yo, why you're

1543
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:53,840
Speaker 2: not getting shaped? I don't feel like it. They stopped asking.

1544
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:55,479
Speaker 2: I'm just shaping up my bed right now. I'm letting

1545
01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:56,280
Speaker 2: it grow with my lips.

1546
01:10:57,479 --> 01:11:00,719
Speaker 5: What did you think of that? I like, I'm afan

1547
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 5: of that.

1548
01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 3: I like that.

1549
01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:04,000
Speaker 5: I do that time rock With a lot of things

1550
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:06,040
Speaker 5: that you do, that's not one of them.

1551
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:08,519
Speaker 3: He do rag show.

1552
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:12,320
Speaker 2: Okay, So you're trying to get waves like I get.

1553
01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:14,680
Speaker 8: A cut all the I get time out for the

1554
01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:17,760
Speaker 8: time like this, It's not That's not happening for you

1555
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:20,120
Speaker 8: no matter what, right like right now that you show

1556
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 8: up in the car with the due right my fun

1557
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:25,800
Speaker 8: from the on the car like ship ship laid like

1558
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 8: a fucking firm like.

1559
01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:30,080
Speaker 3: That time out? Do you get defiled? Do you get

1560
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 3: to feel like it's not like it's says like he

1561
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:39,200
Speaker 3: needs a lot nothing like that. Pretty much like he's

1562
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:42,800
Speaker 3: not like he had right he got in the car

1563
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:45,680
Speaker 3: with a damn Like what was going on? Like you

1564
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:46,800
Speaker 3: know what we're going right now?

1565
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:52,000
Speaker 1: Get f hair styles and the nineties hairstyles and right

1566
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 1: now who you.

1567
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:56,880
Speaker 3: Kind of big nineties hairstyles.

1568
01:11:56,400 --> 01:11:58,000
Speaker 5: Hairstyles right now? It's crazy.

1569
01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:00,320
Speaker 3: I'm going nineties bro, now, I.

1570
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:01,439
Speaker 5: Got better had style.

1571
01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:05,840
Speaker 1: No this freedom, it's like people just freedom, like smart.

1572
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:07,320
Speaker 3: On our team. He got the Celtics.

1573
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 4: He got the shamrock braided. That's hard like a.

1574
01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:13,799
Speaker 3: Word, I say, scary, tell you with some numbers cutting

1575
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 3: his hair and stuff like that.

1576
01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:15,799
Speaker 5: That's the tattoo.

1577
01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:17,280
Speaker 3: Oh he got a tag.

1578
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:18,679
Speaker 4: That's his birthday.

1579
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:21,800
Speaker 3: I did not know that. I thought he had Okay.

1580
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:23,679
Speaker 5: They say they thought he was from in from somebody.

1581
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:26,360
Speaker 4: He from the heights in Cleveland.

1582
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:28,760
Speaker 3: You know, I guess the three one seven, that's why.

1583
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:29,599
Speaker 3: That's that's true.

1584
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:32,919
Speaker 4: It's like an alarm clock. But that's his birthday, three seventeen.

1585
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:33,800
Speaker 5: That's what's up.

1586
01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:34,640
Speaker 3: I know.

1587
01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:36,680
Speaker 2: That was what everybody heard it on TV and I

1588
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:38,639
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, that's his.

1589
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:46,439
Speaker 3: Tad better in the nineties or now Charles Barkle better

1590
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:50,680
Speaker 3: now shout out to Chuck signed Otter, Chuck, I love

1591
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:53,639
Speaker 3: It's kind of hard. I love both versions.

1592
01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:57,519
Speaker 5: But he was more athletics in the nineties.

1593
01:12:57,640 --> 01:13:00,479
Speaker 2: I like you better than the nineties because around the

1594
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 2: mount Man when he got the MVP in nineteen ninety four,

1595
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:05,160
Speaker 2: played against MJ had that.

1596
01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 4: You know, he was your special.

1597
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 5: Then went the Phoenix.

1598
01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 4: They got traded Phoenix and took that team to the finals.

1599
01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:11,080
Speaker 4: That was very special.

1600
01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 2: Even though he you know, Robin Pound, he showed me

1601
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:16,840
Speaker 2: a lot of stories about Chuck, you know, how he

1602
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:19,760
Speaker 2: was as a career player and what he did and

1603
01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:20,880
Speaker 2: how he accomplished all that.

1604
01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 3: You know, he's just a yeah the road he went to.

1605
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:27,879
Speaker 5: Super teams. Were they better in the nineties or better now.

1606
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:32,920
Speaker 6: Today today?

1607
01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 3: A close? Wait?

1608
01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:34,960
Speaker 4: Super teams?

1609
01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:38,480
Speaker 2: Superteam I mean, you got the Blazers when they had Scottie.

1610
01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:41,000
Speaker 3: I'm just saying they was.

1611
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:42,200
Speaker 4: Oh, but you had the Rockets.

1612
01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:44,360
Speaker 2: They potentially could have been a super team late in

1613
01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:47,080
Speaker 2: my career with Charles King, Loan and.

1614
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:49,400
Speaker 3: Peyton and all them, but it wasn't. Really they can't.

1615
01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:51,120
Speaker 3: They didn't win so they could.

1616
01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:53,479
Speaker 2: But I'm saying they were going against MJ though they

1617
01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 2: was going to against Scotti, MJ picking up Folk. They

1618
01:13:56,479 --> 01:13:58,720
Speaker 2: was pressing the whole game. You watched those, I know

1619
01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:01,960
Speaker 2: you saw them, just the defense at m J. Scotty,

1620
01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:05,240
Speaker 2: bj Armstrong, all them dudes with Dennis Robin, but they

1621
01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:08,000
Speaker 2: weren't really I guess they were a super team thenis

1622
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:12,160
Speaker 2: Robin was right robbing three Hall of Fame rob and MJ.

1623
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:14,400
Speaker 3: But prior to that, I didn't consider them the super

1624
01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:18,679
Speaker 3: team because like they were all home Brown Scotty. Scotty

1625
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:20,800
Speaker 3: came up on the m J and became an All Star.

1626
01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:23,559
Speaker 3: Soon the first time Scotty was an All Star, MJ

1627
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:25,559
Speaker 3: was out of here. He was over. As soon as

1628
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:28,160
Speaker 3: he got a coach, star was over. So that's why

1629
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:29,560
Speaker 3: I didn't feel like there's like running up for the

1630
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:31,479
Speaker 3: m v P that they got robbing. That's a super

1631
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:34,559
Speaker 3: change for that, I didn't really think. So now we're

1632
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:35,120
Speaker 3: say now.

1633
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:40,160
Speaker 1: NBA Draft Night better back then or better than now?

1634
01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:44,360
Speaker 1: I think it's better than that. It was exclusive. It's

1635
01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:45,040
Speaker 1: a bigger thing.

1636
01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:48,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's an event. It's like an event.

1637
01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:52,679
Speaker 5: Yea yeah country back then, No, don't say y'all.

1638
01:14:54,560 --> 01:15:00,280
Speaker 1: That great boy Frish bray up.

1639
01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:05,800
Speaker 3: I had a clean I was cream brou I'm talking

1640
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 3: about shot Town. Yeah, yep. But Man, we're gonna wrap

1641
01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:12,679
Speaker 3: it up, and you know what I'm saying, Let's let's

1642
01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:14,839
Speaker 3: let y'all get up out of here. Man. We definitely

1643
01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:17,480
Speaker 3: appreciate y'all boys snopping through the podcast.

1644
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:20,000
Speaker 5: I got one, same one moos Saint Louis.

1645
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, He's just the same little

1646
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:27,800
Speaker 3: thing going with Man. We Darius and I appreciate y'all

1647
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:31,120
Speaker 3: coming through. Man stopping through the patio aka the Boom

1648
01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:36,360
Speaker 3: Boom wrong. We got young Kyrie and young young j

1649
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:40,280
Speaker 3: Tatum in the building. Man for the Celtics too, superstars.

1650
01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:43,800
Speaker 3: We appreciate him coming through. Man, his family appreciate it.

1651
01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:48,479
Speaker 3: Appreciate y'all yo. Check us out on Apple Podcasts or

1652
01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:52,400
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1653
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:54,840
Speaker 3: We're getting it in knuckleheads. Yeah.

1654
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