1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: Welcome back everybody to the Buck Sexton Show, and we 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: have a very exciting guest. We always have a very 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:09,399 Speaker 1: exciting guests, but particularly exciting this time. Roma de Ravi 4 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: is with us. She worked on the Trump twenty sixteen 5 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: victorious presidential campaign. She also worked in the Trump White 6 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: House and now does political communications and strategy of her own. Roma, 7 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: good to have you on. 8 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 2: Thanks for joining, of course, it's great to be with you. Buck. 9 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: All right, let's start the big thing right now? Is 10 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: It's interesting because there's a couple levels to this debates, 11 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: right Trump has said, and I want you to tackle 12 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: these for me separately. Trump has said that he may 13 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 1: not even be willing to debate if he's like, really 14 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: far ahead of the competition, which is interesting. And then 15 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: beyond that, I wonder if how Biden will react to 16 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: this as well. Will Biden if Trump is a nominee, 17 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: debate him. But let's take these in order. Trump in 18 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: the primaries, what's his position right now? What do you 19 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: think of this possibility of debates not happening? 20 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 2: Well, look, I think there's a whole lot that you 21 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 2: have to tackle in that For starters, Trump doesn't really 22 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 2: have any serious opponents. At this time, everybody is talking 23 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 2: about Ronda Santas. But as of April first, today, he 24 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 2: has not announced that he's running for president. So at 25 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 2: this point, everybody else who is running against him has 26 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 2: less than five percent, not even double digits in the 27 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 2: polls right now. So Trump is absolutely leading. His numbers 28 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,479 Speaker 2: are going up every single day. I have no doubt 29 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 2: in my mind that he is going to be the 30 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 2: front runner for the Republican Party. So if he's saying 31 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 2: he doesn't want to do it, maybe he's saying it's 32 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 2: a waste of time because there's no one else to 33 00:01:54,520 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 2: really talk to. But I mean, it's only spring. The 34 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 2: debates don't start until August, right, we only know about 35 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 2: a couple of them right now. There's a whole slew 36 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 2: of them that are going to be announced. Really, anything 37 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 2: can happen. I wouldn't go and make a bet just 38 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 2: yet that he's not going to be on that debate stage. 39 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 2: It would probably be a losing bet. I would go 40 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 2: ahead and assume that he will be up there, mainly 41 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 2: because he's so good at it. I think it would 42 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 2: be a loss to him to not be up there. 43 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 2: So many people have fond memories of President Trump up 44 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 2: on the debate stage making everybody else look like idiots, 45 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 2: I might add, So it really is up to him 46 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 2: if he wants to do it or not. But I 47 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 2: think it's too early to say if it's going to happen. 48 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 1: Do you have some just either anecdote or data you 49 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: can share because you're working on the twenty sixteen campaign. 50 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 1: Klay and I were just talking with this on radio 51 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:55,519 Speaker 1: or thinking about major debate victories in presidential debates, right 52 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: and we were talking about Trump twenty sixteen. Actually the 53 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: first debate in twenty twelve between Romney and Obama, which 54 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: I think people forget, but that was a total, you know, 55 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: just wipe out of Obama by mid Romney, which right 56 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: now to say that is almost but if anyone goes 57 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,119 Speaker 1: back and watches it, they'll remember. But in twenty sixteen 58 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: Trump and Hillary. Did you see a bump after that? 59 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: Because one of the things that comes up now is 60 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,959 Speaker 1: do debates really move the needle in your experience in 61 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, did the debates move the needle for Trump 62 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: against Hillary? Or was it the rest of the campaign 63 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: and the debates were kind of an afterthought? 64 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 2: Well, the debates are a really interesting environment because you 65 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 2: tackle these very serious policy issues, and if you have 66 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 2: a good person running the debates, they'll go through every 67 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 2: single one. They will talk about everything from the economy 68 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 2: to foreign policy, and they will press the people that 69 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 2: are on that stage. At the same time, debates do 70 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 2: offer a platform that's a little bit less stagnant, right, 71 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 2: so it's very fluid. Everybody that's up there has a 72 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 2: chance to really show who they are to the American people. 73 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 2: Donald Trump did a great job of doing that. He 74 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 2: knew his facts, he knew his stuff. He went up 75 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 2: there and he made really strong arguments on the policy 76 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 2: side of things, and he took time to actually make 77 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 2: a few jabs at Hillary that, in my opinion, really 78 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 2: helped the American people realize he's just like them. He 79 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 2: knows how to throw a punch, he knows how to 80 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 2: crack a joke. It makes him seem more real to 81 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 2: the American people. So I think the debate stage is 82 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 2: a really interesting environment. I would love to see him 83 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 2: up there. I do think it helps him as a 84 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 2: candidate when talking to people like Joe Biden, right, So 85 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 2: it really the comparing contrast. You can only believe your 86 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 2: own eyes at that point rather than listening to the 87 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 2: left media and whatever lies they're telling you. If you're 88 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 2: looking at Donald Trump standing next to Joe Biden, the 89 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 2: strength is right there in front of your eyes, and 90 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 2: the weakness is standing next to it in the current president. 91 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: Do you think I mean, we all remember the Heiden 92 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:08,559 Speaker 1: Biden twenty twenty campaign right where it's like he wasn't 93 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 1: oh because of COVID and he had a double mask 94 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: and all that stuff that he didn't really do a 95 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: whole lot of campaigning. But it feels like it would 96 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: be a whole nother level of Hyde Hide and Biden 97 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: if he refused to debate Trump as the Republican nominee. 98 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: Do you think, I mean, from just a comm's perspective, 99 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: do you think that's a serious that's a serious possibility, 100 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: because it seems like people are already raising that maybe preemptively, 101 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 1: Like you know, Joe Biden, he's not even go to 102 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: platform Trump. That's what I've been hearing by debating. 103 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 2: Him right well, Joe Biden had a really interesting environment, 104 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 2: like you mentioned when he ran last time. Not only 105 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 2: was it COVID, but he had the Obama administration as 106 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 2: his backdrop for the campaign. He had Obama's so called 107 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 2: wins from the administration and that he could run on. 108 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 2: But the Biden administration has had failure after failure after failure, 109 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 2: both regionally and on the national stage. So this time around, 110 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 2: he's going to have a really tough time hiding Biden, 111 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 2: Hide and Biden right, like we say in the basement, 112 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 2: because he does have to kind of go out and 113 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 2: take charge and try to make a case to the 114 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 2: American people that he's done a good job when the 115 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 2: reality is we know that there's just a bunch of 116 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 2: negatives that are on his call sheet. So it's really 117 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 2: going to be tough for him to hide this time. 118 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 2: But I will say that the Democrats, they're kind of 119 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 2: the party of staying in line, right. They're really not 120 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,359 Speaker 2: the party of freedom, that is the Republican party. That 121 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 2: is why we as a party have a tough time 122 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 2: speaking from the same song sheet, whereas the Democrats have 123 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 2: no problem reading the exact same phrase over and over again. 124 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 2: It's the socialist mindsets, the communist mindset, it's the Democrat mindset. 125 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 2: Unfortunately nowadays it is so they do a very good 126 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 2: job at staying in line. I don't think Joe Biden 127 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 2: is the one calling the shots right now. I think 128 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 2: somebody will tell him whether he's going to debate and 129 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 2: whether or not he's going to be out campaigning. But 130 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 2: the left media is really who is pushing the narrative 131 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 2: for him, so they have an advantage the left. If 132 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 2: he does stay quiet, then all the Americans have to 133 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 2: go off of is what the mainstream media is telling them, 134 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 2: which is a bunch of lies unfortunately. 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What would be your 180 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: pitch to them? How can you help sell those people 181 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: on this is going to be a victory for the 182 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: GOP with Donald Trump at the helm. 183 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 2: Well, I think if they're being honest with themselves, they 184 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 2: know who is going to be able to win this election, 185 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 2: and it's Donald Trump. If you talk to anybody, even 186 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 2: the people that have concerns, they still love him. Like 187 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 2: you said, they still know that he's the winner that 188 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,439 Speaker 2: they all know and love. And so I really do 189 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 2: think that if you focus on the facts and the policy, 190 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 2: he's the only person that can get it done. The 191 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 2: Democrat process is a beautiful thing. I'm really excited to 192 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 2: see a wide pool of candidates jump into this thing. 193 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 2: We've never been in this position before in America in 194 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 2: the modern day, to have a former president in an 195 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 2: unconsecutive term running again for office. So this is a 196 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,839 Speaker 2: really exciting time in American history. I think that people 197 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 2: should pay attention to every little detail that they can, 198 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 2: because what you're voting on right now is going to 199 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,719 Speaker 2: impact your children and your children's children. When you look 200 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 2: at the differences between not just the Republican candidates, but 201 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 2: Democrats and Republicans as a whole, you really do have 202 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 2: to focus on the larger picture. You can't just pick 203 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 2: and choose what candidate you want in the primary, because 204 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 2: candidate quality matters. And there is a reason why Donald 205 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 2: Trump was able to accomplish so much in his first 206 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 2: term in office. He has the strength, he has the 207 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 2: guts to stand up to our foreign adversaries, and he's 208 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 2: not scared. He's not beholden to anybody. You look at 209 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 2: the money, and you really follow the money in politics 210 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,719 Speaker 2: is something that I've come to know and appreciate over 211 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 2: the last few years. You'll realize who stands with you 212 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 2: and who is simply a mouthpiece for the people that 213 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 2: are donating to their campaign. So Donald Trump is a 214 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 2: really really unique individual that is not beholden to anyone 215 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 2: and he does speak his mind, whether you want to 216 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 2: hear it or not. He'll tell you the truth. He'll 217 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 2: tell you what's going on. And that's the kind of 218 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 2: leader that we really need in America right now. 219 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: Obviously, Joe Biden's age is a major concern, but it's 220 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: a major concern in part not just because of the number, 221 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 1: but because of what is visible, which is somebody who 222 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: is I mean, just to put it nicely, to be 223 00:11:57,960 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: very polite, not not for the job. Others would say 224 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: he's you know, senile has dementia, et cetera. But he 225 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: clearly lacks energy. That can't schedule meetings. I think it's 226 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: they can only schedule them. They're saying between like ten 227 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:13,079 Speaker 1: and four, no work outside of ten and four for 228 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 1: the president of the United States, commander in chief. It 229 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: seems like that's should be a bit of a problem 230 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: for people who actually care about the best of the country. 231 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: But of course the Democrats don't care. And you're right, 232 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: they have a communist mindset. So as long as they're 233 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 1: in power, the leadership doesn't really matter. I bring all 234 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: this up because you know Trump, you spend time around him, 235 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 1: You've known him for years, you were there back in 236 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen as well. How's his energy, his health, his vitality. 237 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: Is there any concern that anybody should have that he 238 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: is not as old as Joe Biden? Obviously, but that 239 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:46,319 Speaker 1: his age is an issue. 240 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 2: Not at all, Buck And I've said this on your 241 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 2: show before, I'll say it again. Trump is the energizer bunny. 242 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 2: When we were at the White House, everyone around him 243 00:12:56,120 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 2: is constantly just trying to keep up. He's absolutely on 244 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 2: top of everything. He's healthy, he's active, he's cognitively with 245 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 2: it one hundred percent. And there's really no comparison to 246 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 2: Joe Biden right now. So if you put the two 247 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 2: side by side, it's an easy call on who's going 248 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 2: to win. But when it comes to age and numbers, 249 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 2: Trump has always had a ton of energy. He always 250 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 2: will be honest with the American people. He's the person 251 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 2: really picking up the phone and calling people at six 252 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 2: in the morning, seven in the morning, four in the morning, 253 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 2: two in the morning. I tend to question when the 254 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 2: man sleeps or eats or anything, because he's constantly in communication, 255 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 2: getting advice from different members that he trusts and communicates with. 256 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 2: So there's absolutely no doubt in my mind that he 257 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 2: is up for the job, that he's got the energy 258 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 2: to do it, and he's absolutely the person that we 259 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 2: need in charge. And I don't just say that because 260 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 2: I worked for him in the past. I really do 261 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 2: think that he's the leader for the future. 262 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: I think that's always an important marker as well for 263 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: whether somebody would go work for a person again having 264 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: had them as the boss. So if Trump wins, and 265 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 1: you see very confident he will, which is great, it's 266 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:14,199 Speaker 1: good to hear. I've had some other people on the 267 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: show recently who are very Republican, who voter for Trump, 268 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: who have their concerns. So it's nice to have somebody 269 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: who has the confidence level that you do as somebody 270 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: who just doesn't want to see Joe Biden continue to 271 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: wrect the country for four more years. Would you go 272 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: back and work in the Trump White House for a 273 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: second term. 274 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 2: Oh, I would be honored to have that offer given 275 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 2: to me. It was absolutely a privilege and a blessing 276 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 2: to be able to work in the Trump White House. 277 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 2: Those years I will cherish for the rest of my life. 278 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 2: If I have the opportunity to go back, I would 279 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 2: be so blessed to do so. And I think that 280 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 2: everybody should have that mindset of being a civil servant, 281 00:14:56,080 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 2: because regardless if you are a career politician or not, 282 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 2: that should be the mindset if you work in politics, 283 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 2: it's not about you, It's about the mission. It absolutely 284 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 2: is with Donald Trump in charge, and if we have 285 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 2: more people around him that keep that mindset, the country 286 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 2: will be a much better place. Joe Biden has I 287 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 2: want to say, around eighty percent of his staff worked 288 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 2: for him in Obama in the past. It's some exorbitant 289 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 2: number of career politicians that are at the helm of 290 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 2: the government right now doing what destroying it. The people 291 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 2: that have been in this industry for decades clearly don't 292 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 2: know what they're doing. So if you can have people 293 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 2: that are passionate, people that want to devote a few 294 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 2: more years of their life to try to help turn 295 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 2: this country around and get it in the right direction, 296 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 2: absolutely more power to them than I hope they do now. 297 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: I do want to ask you the staff around Trump 298 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: right now in the campaign and the people. You know, 299 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: one thing that Trump has been I think very He 300 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: has honestly shared that there were some personnel mistakes in 301 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: the past, right, that there were some issues with some 302 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: of the people who had worked for him. I mean 303 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: Scaramucci and i'm a Rosa. I mean, there are people 304 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: that have made effectively careers of going after him after 305 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: having worked from which I just think is a very 306 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: It's a very dishonorable thing to do to go work 307 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: for a White House and then try to sell books 308 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: or something afterwards by by trashing the person that you 309 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: were supposed to be helping serve the American people. But 310 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: is is there any sense that you have that this 311 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: time around, you know, they will have a little bit 312 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: more of a refined list of who should have access 313 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: to the president. And you know, you may have seen 314 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: he's gonna be going on CNN next week in a 315 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: town hall. Does he just relish the opportunity to like 316 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: fight with the Libs? Like what to me? It seems 317 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: like that's they're gonna they're gonna ambush him. I mean, 318 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: not like that's there'll be the millionth time they've done it. 319 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: But you know, I don't know. I guess I'm asking, 320 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: is the approach going to be the same or do 321 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: you feel like he's shaking things up a little bit, 322 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 1: both in terms of personnel and the way he deals 323 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: with the media, which is kind of related. 324 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 2: One of the things that I have absolutely found fascinating 325 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 2: about Donald Trump is that he is not scared to 326 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 2: have a variety of advisors around him. I think that 327 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 2: that makes for a tremendous leader. If you have so 328 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 2: many different viewpoints coming your way all the time, you 329 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 2: have every option if you have different viewpoints, and then 330 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 2: as a strong leader, you can make the right decision 331 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 2: when it comes to staff. We did have some leakers 332 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 2: last time around, but I will say that going into 333 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 2: a second term with this gap in the middle does 334 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 2: give us the opportunity to pick out the people who have, 335 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 2: like you said, made themselves known. They've written a book, 336 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 2: or they've taken a job on a TV show where 337 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 2: they are daily talking about how they don't like Donald 338 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 2: Trump anymore. So I don't think any of them are 339 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 2: really hiding. They're all out there in plain sight. They 340 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 2: will not get a job with Donald Trump in the future. 341 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 2: And I won't name names. I learned from one of 342 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 2: my favorite women in politics, one of the smartest women 343 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:17,919 Speaker 2: I know, Kelly and Conway said that if you are 344 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 2: talking about individuals, there's no substance to that conversation. So 345 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 2: I won't name names. I'll move forward and say that 346 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 2: I think the president makes strong decisions when it comes 347 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 2: to his staff and his leadership. And the mainstream media 348 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 2: is having this frenzy around the conversation that former Trump 349 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 2: staffers are leaving to go work for a pro DeSantis pack. 350 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 2: Need I point out that many of the members on 351 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:49,199 Speaker 2: Trump's current team are former DeSantis staffers. So if you 352 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 2: want to have that conversation, it's going to be a 353 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 2: losing one for the media. They will come to find 354 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 2: out very quickly that Trump has a lot of former 355 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 2: DeSantis people that are working for him, that know him 356 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 2: very well, that have been around DeSantis for a very 357 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 2: long time and have chosen not to work for him again. 358 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 2: So that's an interesting narrative that you're not hearing about. 359 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 2: It really is at the staff level, And I don't 360 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 2: know that it's necessarily important for the American people to 361 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 2: pay attention to because, like I said, Donald Trump is 362 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,439 Speaker 2: the clear frontrunner right now. DeSantis has not announced, and 363 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 2: so we need to focus on the reality of what 364 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 2: we're living in currently. 365 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,679 Speaker 1: What do you think about the CNN town hall? Is 366 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 1: this just I feel like it's weird because Trump brokes 367 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: CNN as an institution, Like he brokes CNN. I mean, 368 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: Don Lemon is gone now. But CNN also kind of 369 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: needs Trump because they have what do CNN exist to 370 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: do without him? So I can understand why from a 371 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: ratings perspective and a relevant really a relevancy perspective, why 372 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,239 Speaker 1: they would want to have this town hall. But I mean, 373 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,719 Speaker 1: you worked in the comm side for the Trump White House, Like, 374 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: what does Trump? What is he going to want to 375 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 1: accomplish by doing a town hall? It's you know, I'm 376 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: not even sure who the moderator is. I assume it's 377 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: Blitzer or Tapper or one of those guys. But you know, 378 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: what's the upside for him? Like, what's the thinking behind 379 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 1: this one? 380 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 2: Well? Trump definitely brought back the ratings to TV. There's 381 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 2: no way around that conversation. Everybody with eyes and ears 382 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 2: could see that TV was declining before Trump decided to 383 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 2: run for office. I don't know if the platform would 384 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 2: even be what it is today. Network aside just the 385 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 2: entire media platform. I don't know what it would be 386 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 2: today without Donald Trump. He really did revive the industry. 387 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 2: If you talk to the reporters at the White House 388 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 2: right now that are covering Joe Biden, they'll tell you 389 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 2: that they're bored. They don't have anything to talk about. 390 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 2: They don't get any information out of him or their 391 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 2: White House that's currently there. They're ignored by the staffers. 392 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 2: And so Donald Trump really does help the industry absolutely, 393 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 2: one hundred percent. But one thing that people forget is that, yes, 394 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 2: he is absolutely the leader of the Republican Party, but 395 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:10,239 Speaker 2: he also speaks to Democrats and independents very well. Might 396 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 2: I add, so if he's going on CNN, it's because 397 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,199 Speaker 2: he and his team inside have done the polling and 398 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 2: the data, and they have the numbers to prove that 399 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 2: if he goes on that platform, it's going to be 400 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 2: a benefit for him. Donald Trump is extremely calculated. He 401 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 2: is one of the smartest people in the world, and 402 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:28,880 Speaker 2: there's no way that he would be doing that if 403 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 2: they didn't already know that it would benefit him in 404 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 2: the long run. 405 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 1: Let's come back in a second room and talk about 406 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: the economy of everybody. 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You did a good job. 435 00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: She did a good job. 436 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 2: So we're talking about tech. 437 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, So you were talking about tech jobs and everything else, 438 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: and tech jobs are being they're hemorrhaging tech jobs right now. 439 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: And the banking sector crisis is something that people feels 440 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: like aren't really paying very much. 441 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 2: Atten. 442 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: Here's a thesis I wone should to run with if 443 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 1: a Republican we're presiding over the collapse of Silicon Valley 444 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: as the primary engine of like the Nasdaq and the 445 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: stock market in terms of growth, and people just hemorrhaging 446 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: jobs out of the biggest companies. The deterioration and the 447 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: commercial real estate market which is happening in San Francisco 448 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: and other cities in massive deterioration and the biggest bank 449 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: failure since two thousand and I feel like it could 450 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: be a bigger deal, and I feel like you were 451 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 1: trying to make that point on Fox. 452 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 2: Absolutely, when you look at the broader economic environment, people 453 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 2: should have their eyes open and be concerned. People should 454 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 2: be paying attention to this. But it's just simply not 455 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 2: something that the media has just i to talk about. 456 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 2: The Biden White House is gaslighting the American people when 457 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 2: they talk about this issue. Just today, they mentioned that 458 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 2: the taxpayer is not going to have the burden of 459 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 2: saving these banks that are failing. That's not the case. 460 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 2: Anybody with the basic understanding of what's going to happen 461 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 2: right now knows that this is going to eventually fall 462 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 2: on the taxpayer. And we are already struggling with inflation, 463 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 2: we are already struggling with the current economic environment, and 464 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 2: it's going to fall in those who need it most. 465 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 2: It's going to go to the lower class citizens that 466 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 2: are really going to carry the brunt of this burden. 467 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 2: So it's extremely unfortunate that Joe Biden hasn't found a 468 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 2: way to be honest with the American people because it's 469 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,959 Speaker 2: causing confusion and chaos amongst the community. 470 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 1: Do you think the GOP on just a at R 471 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: and C level national messaging. Here's my concern. We had 472 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: a week economy going into the twenty twenty two midterms, 473 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: inflation at a forty year high, and it didn't translate 474 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:09,439 Speaker 1: into the victories we had hoped in some you know, 475 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 1: very close Senate and House and gubernature. Really the Senate 476 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 1: races are the ones I'm most focused on. Some gubernatorial 477 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 1: races too, and everyone always says, oh, it's the economies 478 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 1: do but well, apparently it wasn't the economy, you know 479 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: what I mean, Like, apparently there was something other stuff 480 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: going on? Or was it that there hadn't been enough 481 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: of a connection made at the national level by GOP 482 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: voices to explain what was going on? And you know, 483 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: how how do you assess that? Like why didn't the 484 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 1: week economy in twenty twenty two turn into more victories? 485 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: And how could it in twenty twenty four. 486 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I hate to give credit to the Republicans or 487 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 2: to the Democrats, I'm sorry, but they really do a 488 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 2: good job of staying on message when they're in an 489 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,880 Speaker 2: election cycle, and they did that. They really pushed these 490 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 2: kind of teer jerking issues like abortion in the state 491 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 2: where they knew that it was going to be a 492 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 2: tough race for Republicans and they were able to push 493 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 2: that over the finish line. It's something that Joe Biden 494 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 2: is making a key part of his current re election campaign, 495 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 2: which I find to be very odd and honestly upsetting, 496 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 2: but it's something that is effective, and the Republicans are 497 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 2: going to have to learn how to sing from the 498 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 2: same song sheet if they want to have, you know, overall, 499 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 2: widespread victories come this next election cycle, because it does matter, 500 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 2: It does make a difference, and it is it's local issues, 501 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 2: it's grassroots issues, but it is the same at the 502 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,360 Speaker 2: national level when you're talking about states like Arizona where 503 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 2: you had such a tough time winning that Senate seat. 504 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 2: I mean, it's the lies that come from the left 505 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 2: that people have a really hard time seeing through, especially 506 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 2: because the media is amplifying those lies. It's really very 507 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 2: tough and it has to be something that we focus 508 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 2: on with our message moving forward or it's not going 509 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 2: to have a positive outcome. 510 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 1: What do you think are the three places or I 511 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: shouldn't put a number on it just tell me what 512 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: comes to mind when I said the places where Trump 513 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:23,400 Speaker 1: can make gains with independent voters in the upcoming election 514 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,439 Speaker 1: based on the issues as they stand right now. I know, 515 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 1: you know, we could be at warwith China and you 516 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 1: know the future, who knows, right, but based on what 517 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: we're seeing right now, I think it's just helpful for 518 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 1: people to know what the template will be to win 519 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: over those in those independents in Michigan, Wisconsin, Arizona, Pennsylvania, 520 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: and you know the handful of states that matter. 521 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it really is going to come down to the issues. 522 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 2: And I think that you'll see if you pay attention 523 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 2: to the state and local politics. There's been a large 524 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 2: turnover on attorney generals, on state council even something as 525 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 2: small as school board members have been flipping to Republicans, 526 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 2: vocal Republicans throughout the country. So I think those things 527 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 2: are really going to make a difference when it comes 528 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 2: to having a good ground starting point for presidential contender 529 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 2: for President Trump when he is in the general election 530 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,199 Speaker 2: across the country. But he had some very strong numbers 531 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 2: when he ran in twenty sixteen, and I think you're 532 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 2: going to see that come back mainly because Joe Biden 533 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 2: has shown the American people just in a matter of 534 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 2: over two years that they can't get the job done, 535 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 2: that they cannot do anything that is going to help 536 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 2: your family at the kitchen table, and those things make 537 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 2: a difference to the voter. The left again really kind 538 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 2: of pulling on those lies that they talked about when 539 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 2: they're speaking to suburban women. But there's a large part 540 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 2: of the population right now that's paying attention, and it's 541 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 2: going to be the young voters. It's people our age buck, 542 00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 2: it's gen Z, it's millennials, and so we really do 543 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,959 Speaker 2: need to do a good job at paying attention to 544 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 2: that section of the voter population because if we don't, 545 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 2: it's going to be tough to pull out a win. 546 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 2: You know, this isn't your grandfather's political party anymore. It's 547 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 2: not your grandfather's economy anymore. It's a totally different ballgame, 548 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 2: and we have to get with the times if we're 549 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 2: going to be successful. 550 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 1: I want to ask you, as a Californian comm's person 551 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 1: and a Californian about Gavin, about Gavin Newsom, to close 552 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: us out here in just a second aroma. But yeah, yeah, yeah, well, 553 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: I'll give you an opportunity to tee off on things 554 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 1: a little bit, so it'll send us off with a 555 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 1: little bit of a little bit of pep in the step. 556 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: But but first off, I got to tell everybody this 557 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:44,959 Speaker 1: doesn't apply to ladies out there, but for the guys. 558 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: You notice on my beard actually was gone. Now it's 559 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: grown back. But you know how I get rid of it. Guys, 560 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: the one blade one blade shape. You need to check 561 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 1: out this razor company. Big razor companies out there have 562 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: been lying to you for years because they say more 563 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: blades is better. No, there's just because there's a low 564 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: quality blades. That's why you need three or four, eight 565 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: or whatever. One blade shave uses one razor because it 566 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: is super high quality, which means you have less skin irritation, 567 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 1: gets a closer shave for you. It's what I'll be 568 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 1: doing later today before I go on Fox News tonight, 569 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: so that you know I'll look like I actually got 570 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 1: up and did my job today and didn't just wake 571 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 1: up a few minutes ago. One blade's handle is metal, 572 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 1: not plastic. It is weighty, is substantial, It's worthy of 573 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: a man's face. One blade refill plan means you'll get 574 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: blades sent straight to your door whenever you need them. 575 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 1: Get a discount on your blades with your sign up. 576 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: All orders have a sixty day return policy, whether you 577 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: use all of your blades or none of your blades. 578 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 1: To elevate your shave experience, get twenty percent off your 579 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: one blade order right now. Go to one bladeshave dot 580 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 1: com slash buck. That's one spelled out ony one blade 581 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: shave dot com slash buck. You will get twenty percent 582 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: off your first order. All right, Roma California. So much 583 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 1: good about California that we could talk about right, so 584 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: many nice things. The politics, though awful. Gavin Newsom is 585 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 1: the governor. There are those out there who make the 586 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 1: case that Gavin Newsom could be either part of a 587 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: plan to push Biden aside or if Biden, you know, 588 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: he's eighty two years old, can make it through to 589 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: the election. Obviously there's Kamala Harris, but maybe they want 590 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 1: somebody that think could actually win in a general election. 591 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: Ergo Gavin Newsom. Do you think Gavin nuw First of all, 592 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,239 Speaker 1: do you think Gavin Newsom wants to be president? And 593 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: does that thought terrify you? Because you think it's a possibility. 594 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 2: You're reading my mind. It's absolutely terrifying. He absolutely wants 595 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 2: to be president. I don't know that the man has 596 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 2: a single bone in his body that wouldn't do something 597 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 2: to make himself more famous and rich, and running for 598 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,479 Speaker 2: presidential election would certainly put more money in his pocket 599 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 2: and give him a larger platform. So, yes, he wants 600 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 2: to run for president. Do I think that he is 601 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 2: going to win. No? Do I think that he should run. No? 602 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 2: Do I think that he should resign? Yes? I hate him. 603 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 2: He's terrible and I literally never talk about that about anybody, 604 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 2: but he's absolutely doing everything he can to hurt the 605 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 2: American people, and the people in California deserve better. I 606 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 2: can't tell you how many family and friends have left 607 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 2: the state of California because they just can't stand his 608 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 2: policies anymore. It's terrible, and he's grooming the next generation 609 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 2: of politicians as well. We had some really terrible redistricting 610 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 2: done in California, and my home district in Orange County 611 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 2: ended up flipping blue again. We have Katie Porter as 612 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 2: our representative right now, which makes absolutely no sense. But 613 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 2: one thing that I will point out is I don't 614 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 2: think the Left has rules for themselves anymore when it 615 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 2: comes to respecting the current leadership in their teams. So 616 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 2: Katie Porter, who is very very close with Gavinusom and 617 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 2: Nancy Pelosi, announced just seventy two hours after she became 618 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 2: a congresswoman that she's running for Senate. There's no open 619 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 2: seat in California, So how disrespectful of her to her 620 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 2: current sitting senator to say that she's going to run 621 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 2: for her seat when Fine Stine hasn't even resigned yet. 622 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 2: So what's going on over there is certainly tumultuous. It 623 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 2: doesn't make any sense for them as a party. I 624 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 2: think it's an opportunity for us to kind of play 625 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 2: with the turmoil and gain some seats because of that. 626 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 2: I'm very excited that a friend of mine, Max foroc 627 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 2: dot Com, has just announced that he's running for Congress. 628 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 2: He's already raised over one hundred and fifty thousand dollars 629 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 2: in his first week running, all small money, all small donors. 630 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 2: So I think that there really is excitement in the 631 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 2: state of California to gain some of that freedom back, 632 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 2: to gain some of that America First policy in the state. 633 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 2: And I don't know that it's necessarily going to happen overnight. 634 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 2: But I have this conversation with Larry Caudlow often, and 635 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 2: he makes fun of me for it because I have 636 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 2: a bleeding heart for California. But I do think that 637 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 2: we should not give up on the state. I think 638 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 2: that we need to pay more attention as a party 639 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 2: as Republicans to California because there is a lot of 640 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 2: ground we can cover there if we focus on certain areas. 641 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 2: There's a lot of money there. We know that as 642 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 2: a party, we get a lot of our donor dollars 643 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 2: from the state of California alone. Both parties do, but 644 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 2: the Republicans do as well. So when people call it 645 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 2: a blue state, they're really not paying attention. They're just 646 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 2: listening to the megaphone that's coming from San Francisco and 647 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 2: Los Angeles and ignoring the farmland in between. You know, 648 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 2: Kevin McCarthy is our speaker from California, and he's doing 649 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 2: a really amazing job helping the American people see what 650 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 2: Joe Biden is doing and also making progress when it 651 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 2: comes to protecting our rights and our values as a 652 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 2: country's So if we have more of that at the 653 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 2: local level. It will only help the party as a whole. 654 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 2: And it really wasn't that long ago that Florida was 655 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 2: considered kind of a purple blue state. Now look at it. 656 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 2: I really think that California could be the same way. 657 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,839 Speaker 1: Roma, Where should folks go to follow your work and 658 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,799 Speaker 1: see more of your commentary At Roma. 659 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 2: Dravi On Twitter and Instagram. You can find everything that 660 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 2: I do. I posted all there. 661 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 1: Fantastic Roma, Thank you so much. 662 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:29,240 Speaker 2: Thanks Bet, great to be on with you.