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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.

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Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your

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Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey

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Speaker 1: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and

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Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the

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Speaker 1: Real Housewives franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in

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Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or

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Speaker 1: scripted as well. Hey, rain drops, So today's episode Reality

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Speaker 1: with the King, I got Alexis Jansen back to recap.

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Speaker 2: Oh c Hey, hey, it's the Jansen's Worth Jason.

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Speaker 3: Instead of Jesus Jobs. It's Jansen Jugs. Okay, the pop filling.

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Speaker 2: You you literally are you? You're definitely doing the Alexis

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Speaker 2: Jesus Jugs saying, Hey, by the way, it's JJ and JJ.

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Speaker 2: So it's fine Jesus Judge John Janssen. It works. Although

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Speaker 2: our our logos AJ, so yeah, that doesn't work, so

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Speaker 2: we'll keep it AJ.

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Speaker 3: Well, we let to see that Netli.

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Speaker 2: That was the logo through the whole wedding and everything

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Speaker 2: that he had the A with the J wrapped around it.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it's that I love it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well before we give pardon, I just want to

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm so happy for you and John.

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Speaker 3: How it what was married?

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Speaker 1: Light?

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Speaker 3: Alexis bliss?

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Speaker 2: Yes it is. I mean it's crazy because it really

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Speaker 2: does feel different. Like I told John when we first

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Speaker 2: started realizing we were in love, we don't need to

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Speaker 2: get married. We can just stay you know, fiance and

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Speaker 2: it's fine. And then we decided, obviously, you know, we

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Speaker 2: want to do the whole thing. And when we went

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Speaker 2: before the friends and family and god, it is a

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Speaker 2: different feeling. You do feel different. The sex is better,

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Speaker 2: the the do you wake up in the morning You're like, okay, no,

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Speaker 2: this is mine forever. I know, how did it get better? Carlos,

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Speaker 2: we already had like the top over the top tip,

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Speaker 2: you know, off the charts. But yeah, everything is different,

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Speaker 2: Everything is different, So I build the main thing. He's

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Speaker 2: my person.

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Speaker 1: Listen, I could tell boy, the glow you have and

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Speaker 1: that makes me so happy because you would think you

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Speaker 1: had a little bit of a space cake but if not, weed,

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Speaker 1: it's love.

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Speaker 2: It's my light, Honey, Let's be real. It's my it's

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Speaker 2: my it's that's my glow. Okay, look look forgot my light.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm not vain enough to take my big one,

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Speaker 2: So I ordered the Butt Amazon and I'm like, I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to Missouri and I'll have the podcast a

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Speaker 2: couple of times, so I'm bringing my lights, so my

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Speaker 2: wrinkles look lets and my bags look less because I'm

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Speaker 2: not a whole lot here. But we start up, but

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Speaker 2: we start off buying Carlos.

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Speaker 3: We still have fun.

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Speaker 1: And I can't talked about this episode because look, let's

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Speaker 1: get right into it. Our Frantamera Judge. I was shocked

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Speaker 1: at the scene between her and Eddie where I can

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Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, this would be a nice dinner between

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Speaker 1: the two of them.

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Speaker 3: Maybe she's like, you know, setting up that she's going

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Speaker 4: Amsterdam, you know, which is hea this trip for this

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Speaker 4: particular season, and then all of a sudden they talk

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Speaker 3: Fight every six months, and all of a sudden.

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Speaker 1: Ed it Reveale's like it when you're drunk ifn Tama's like,

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Speaker 1: do you think I have.

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Speaker 3: A drinking problem? And he's like, I think it's not

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Speaker 3: good for our relationship.

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Speaker 1: I was I was shocked by that revelation because I

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Speaker 1: did not see that on comedy What about You, Well.

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Speaker 2: I was. I was really shocked at it. But you

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Speaker 2: know what I loved about it, Carlos, I have a

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Speaker 2: different feel on it. I mean, I mean, obviously, when

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Speaker 2: you're they've been married like how many over a decade now,

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Speaker 2: so it's like, Okay, you're gonna have qualms. You're gonna

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Speaker 2: get on each other's nerves. And her the way he's

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Speaker 2: gonna have those things to get through in life. But

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Speaker 2: It was like, look, we do have a good marriage.

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Speaker 2: And when you see them, you know how there's couples, Carlos,

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Speaker 2: They don't have that glow. Eddie and her still have

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Speaker 2: But it is showing the reality of it ain't perfect

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Speaker 2: So I just loved that they and they the way

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Speaker 2: I was like, that's true, that's the truth, Like that's

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Speaker 2: that is then. But they've worked through it, you know.

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Speaker 2: And I'm sure they went home and maybe she wasn't drinking.

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Speaker 2: She had soda, water and cranberry at that dinner. So

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Speaker 2: here's the other thing, Carlos. Though she this whole season

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Speaker 2: she was going through the ringer with Teddy and the

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Speaker 2: fact that the cast members were not wrapping around her

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Speaker 2: with everything she was going through. Nobody was on her side,

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Speaker 2: so she didn't have an ally or full support at

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Speaker 2: all filming, and she still met put her foot forward

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Speaker 2: So I feel like a lot of the strain you

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Speaker 2: with the castmates. I truly feel that because I know

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Speaker 2: what it feels like to be on the island, and

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Speaker 2: she was on the island last year with me. We

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Speaker 2: were in freaking Timbuktu with the rest of the cast

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Speaker 2: at one of the hardest times of her life.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, no, I've done with you. And listen.

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Speaker 1: One thing that I believe we all know is that, look,

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Speaker 1: relationships are hard.

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Speaker 1: You do have this commitment you take them, vow to

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Speaker 1: be there through sickness and health and rich and for

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Speaker 1: all and all the other stuff. And when it comes

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Speaker 3: What would you say, you know this, you know when

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Speaker 1: What would you say is the secret to communicate well

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Speaker 2: Really is that if I hadn't been through fourteen years

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Speaker 2: all these tools in my tool belt because counseling, real

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Speaker 2: and therapy is so positive. It's such a good thing

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Speaker 2: even in life and even with friends and any relationships

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Speaker 2: that you have. And the one thing that my therapist

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Speaker 2: to communicate. And I do believe Tamor when she said

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Speaker 2: then that's when they have the six month blowup where

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Speaker 2: That's not a healthy way to go, but if it

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Speaker 2: got to communicate it through when it happens, I think

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Speaker 2: The other key to that is if you're not seeing

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Speaker 2: together where I'm just ready to talk it out. I

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Speaker 2: want to talk it out. I want to get it out.

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Speaker 2: I'm like no, and he goes, Alexis, you're the one

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Speaker 2: to put it right there, and tomorrow or the next day,

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Speaker 2: when we're both calmed down, we've processed the argument and

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Speaker 2: to address it after twenty four hours or what, you know,

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Speaker 2: when the time feels right. But right now we're missing

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Speaker 2: And I think that is so cute. Put it on

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Speaker 2: a shelf. Does it mean you're neglecting It doesn't mean

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Speaker 2: you're going to bed mad. It's up there and we'll

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Speaker 2: revisit it. I think that is like one of the

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Speaker 2: biggest things. And I even got mad at Johnny when

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Speaker 3: What. No, that's good. I have to use that one day.

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Speaker 3: That's really good advice.

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Speaker 2: I think it would help tamroll. I'm mett tell her

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Speaker 2: next time we have coffee, we're not gonna have the

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Speaker 2: martini because that he doesn't like it. We're gonna have coffee.

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Speaker 3: No, baby, have coffee that Cobbe caffe and that my

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Speaker 1: So we've been see the girls together and listen, I

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Speaker 1: will say this, Emily is becoming the.

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Speaker 3: Pot star this season.

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Speaker 2: I'm It's been every season, Carlos. I'm not the only

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Speaker 2: one that sees this. Honey Bunny, come on. Her middle

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Speaker 2: name is Emily pott Stir hyphenated, not the pop that

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Speaker 2: called Emily's black. I love it.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 2: I love it, and nothing's wrong with it. Just own it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it doesn't matter. You just you are. You

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Speaker 2: are the pot Star. It's okay own it and wear

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Speaker 3: I actually agree with you. Listen.

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Speaker 1: I enjoy it, and I think she should own it

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Speaker 3: But it's sort of like so Emily is activated.

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Speaker 1: And while the girls were together, she did ask Shannon

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Speaker 1: parent and it's evident we talked about this again that

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Speaker 1: Shannon has no Shanna does. I would want to resolve

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Speaker 1: the friendship she have with Tammar and and and it's

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Speaker 3: And then Tamar all of a.

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Speaker 1: Sudden, it's like, you know, asking Shannon and if she

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Speaker 1: is a sea word, because Shanna was like to be

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Speaker 1: screamed the sea word eighteen times across the table. It's

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Speaker 1: just stuffing she can't deal with ivan Tamara was like,

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Speaker 1: what are you want? Which I'm like, look, Tampa, that's

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Speaker 3: But I think for me, Shannon and Tamar will never

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Speaker 1: After that, I have him pir clop in holy water

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it is. It is kind of like, let

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00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,720
Speaker 2: me just find another, you know, nail to put in

433
00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,720
Speaker 2: Tamra and turn turn the nail in Tamra's heart, because yeah,

434
00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,679
Speaker 2: let me just find her worst enemy. And so I'll

435
00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:36,080
Speaker 2: I'll choose Gretchen and all choose Gin. But at least, Carlos,

436
00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,520
Speaker 2: do you feel like this? I wonder what the viewers think.

437
00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,399
Speaker 2: I feel like with Gin and Tamarra, they get the

438
00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,480
Speaker 2: assignment and they're doing their job even though they don't

439
00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,000
Speaker 2: love each other. They there's there's there's a beef there,

440
00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,840
Speaker 2: we all know it. But they're they're able to put

441
00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,600
Speaker 2: on their big girl britches and do their job. Yes,

442
00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:53,840
Speaker 2: it's not possible with Gretchen and Tamra, and it's not

443
00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,919
Speaker 2: possible with Shannon and Tamra. Do you feel that.

444
00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:02,639
Speaker 3: Saying let me tell you something. Let me tell you something.

445
00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,080
Speaker 3: The reason why they.

446
00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 1: Show like Salt Lake City works is because.

447
00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,760
Speaker 3: They fight a lot, but they find a way to

448
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:20,160
Speaker 3: sort of get back together. The same thing with Beverly Hills.

449
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,880
Speaker 1: They they The thing with the Beverly Hills cast Alexis

450
00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:30,160
Speaker 1: is they don't isolate one person. Even when Erica Jane

451
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,600
Speaker 1: was going through the most horrific times in her life

452
00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:36,119
Speaker 1: with a divorce from Tom and the fraud and you know,

453
00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,560
Speaker 1: all of the laws, dues and all of that ship,

454
00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,920
Speaker 1: there weren't half of the casts who believed Erica Jane

455
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:46,200
Speaker 1: was guilty. Lisa Renna and I'll say Kyle Lisa rent

456
00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,159
Speaker 1: a child was really like on Erica's side, but they

457
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 1: also had questions. But it wasn't like something and garselves

458
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,160
Speaker 1: that we're not filming with Erica Jane because we don't

459
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,400
Speaker 1: want to be associated with somebody who's associated with fraudulent

460
00:21:58,480 --> 00:21:59,640
Speaker 1: activities or charge as.

461
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,440
Speaker 3: The thing with OC that I do not want it to.

462
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:07,480
Speaker 1: Turn it to Jersey, for example, is the fact that

463
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 1: you have to find a way to go along to

464
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,120
Speaker 1: get along. And that's the reason why when Tamara came back,

465
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 1: I'll say this and I'll say it again, When Tamara

466
00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 1: was fine that season and Heather came back and they

467
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 1: wanted Heather to be the queen be of the show

468
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 1: and it flopped right, Emily and Gina shit talk Tamarra

469
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 1: and interviews that entire season she was on, only for

470
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 1: the girl to come back, and they're like, fuck, at

471
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,199
Speaker 1: least Emily and Gina found a way to be like,

472
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,480
Speaker 1: let's let's let's at least work with Tamara to do

473
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,240
Speaker 1: with the best for the show. And that's why Emily

474
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,719
Speaker 1: and Gina to me, are enjoyable to watch.

475
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,160
Speaker 3: The thing with Shannon is Shannon.

476
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 1: Hey, listen, I'm not trying to pommel on Shannon, but

477
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:55,680
Speaker 1: I've just got to be honest here and listen, I'm

478
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 1: only talking about her based on the show.

479
00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:58,719
Speaker 2: Right now, you can pile on her because guess what,

480
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,119
Speaker 2: I have kept my mouth shut and the cookie monster

481
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 2: better keep the John's name out of her mouth, okay,

482
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 2: because she's doing there's gonna be some truth told because

483
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 2: I do have facts and I do have proof of

484
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 2: stuff which we won't name how we all know after

485
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 2: the last season. But it's like I don't have to

486
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 2: shut up, but she better shut up with my husband now,

487
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:20,120
Speaker 2: thank you.

488
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:24,360
Speaker 4: Okay, go ahead, no lifted, listen there by your man

489
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 4: tell me why that I'll I'll right.

490
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:28,399
Speaker 3: So I'm not.

491
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 2: I'm not.

492
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna argument that would either.

493
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 2: Not right now. I kind of feel like I have

494
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 2: a knife in my hand and I'm like you, think

495
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 2: of the garage.

496
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,119
Speaker 3: The biggest this the thig is this.

497
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 1: To see To see Shannon.

498
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 3: Give the ultimatum to Jin was shocking.

499
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:02,199
Speaker 1: What was even more shocking was Jen saying, I'm not

500
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 1: I did I didn't receive a safe the day from Alexis.

501
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 3: I like Alexus. I do consider her friend.

502
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 1: We have a good time, we have coffee, whatever and

503
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 1: when and when, she said, but in order for us

504
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,439
Speaker 1: to not be in a bad place, I will not

505
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,120
Speaker 1: go to the wedding and Shannon says thank you.

506
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 3: I was like, what the fuck is happening?

507
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:31,160
Speaker 2: First of all, that is you were running both lanes there.

508
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 2: It's like, that's not really making a stance, because if

509
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:34,919
Speaker 2: you really do say you like me and enjoy me,

510
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:36,920
Speaker 2: then you don't go to Shannon and say but I

511
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 2: won't go to her wedding. But here's the reality behind

512
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,399
Speaker 2: everything now, Carlos. Because that scene, I then knew what

513
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,920
Speaker 2: was happening, because Jen and I talked all the way

514
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 2: up until like April something, because I went back on

515
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 2: my text to look after I saw that scene. We

516
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 2: talked all until about April or May, like May is

517
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 2: when myfe Save the Date went out, like all the

518
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 2: way up and I send us Save the Date out

519
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 2: and then there's three weeks. I mean, I'm talking we

520
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 2: talked twenty five minutes on the phone when I'm in

521
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 2: Beverly Hills trying to get my gown and I had

522
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 2: a debucle with the first designer and then I had

523
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 2: to find another designer. Like she's helping me all along

524
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 2: the way and talking to me, okay, and then she's

525
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 2: texting back and forth all the time too. Yes. So

526
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 2: then May comes and I send the save the dates. Okay.

527
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 2: Then the three weeks come where there's like, you know,

528
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 2: I've texted her a couple of times. Nothing. I'm like, oh,

529
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 2: I know that. You know, things get busy. They're probably traveling,

530
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,160
Speaker 2: I don't know. And then and then I decide it's

531
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 2: it's five months before my wedding and I was going

532
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:35,959
Speaker 2: in for my emergency boob surgery and if I had

533
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 2: the ruptured implant, and her and I would when we

534
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 2: would have cramps, we would call the other one and go,

535
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 2: you have cramps right, and I'm so sorry, or you

536
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 2: know I'm in car I mean, we talked it through everything.

537
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 2: She did not respond after she knew I was in

538
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 2: Beverly Hills that day going in for my surgery, not

539
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 2: even the next day. I let a whole another four

540
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 2: days go by, not a check up, not to call me, nothing.

541
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 2: So this is where she was distancing herself because she

542
00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 2: knew she'd said that on camera. Okay, this is just

543
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 2: where I'm is going. She knew she'd said that on cameras.

544
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 2: And then she's like, I do have to kind of

545
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,400
Speaker 2: distance myself from Alexis now. So then I send her

546
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 2: the text and I disinvite her, and she was shocked.

547
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,439
Speaker 2: She was like, why are you disinviting me? And I'm like,

548
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,880
Speaker 2: are you cuckoo? Like, yeah, haven't responded. I just had surgery.

549
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 2: You didn't check up on me. You have a text

550
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 2: to me back in three weeks when we were talking

551
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 2: almost every day. Text prove it, my text chain proves it,

552
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 2: and the phone calls if I would have kept the

553
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 2: coal log. But like, we chopped almost every day, every

554
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 2: couple of days, and you didn't check up on me.

555
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 2: You don't get a seat at my wedding, which is

556
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 2: a very limited guest list, and I have twenty five

557
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 2: people still wanting to come that I want to invite.

558
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 2: So now you're moving off and I'm inviting two more

559
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 2: that are going to take your place. Okay, it's total

560
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 2: logic to me. Now I understand why it was going

561
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 2: on because Shannon was in her ear engines, Like, I

562
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 2: have to film with Shannon. I don't want to tick

563
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 2: her off because it's the nightmare to film with people.

564
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 2: I've got to have allies. I don't like Tamera, you know,

565
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 2: I've got so now I understand it all from behind

566
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 2: the scenes. But It sucks because Jen and I are

567
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 2: friends and I do care about her. I love her

568
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 2: and Ryan. I think they're a great couple. I don't

569
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 2: have anything negative to say about Jen except for that

570
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 2: was weak and she should never have allowed Shannon to

571
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 2: scare her from coming to my wedding because she missed

572
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 2: a fabulous event and she should have been there, and

573
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 2: that's on her. But she wasn't being honest when she said,

574
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 2: I'm not the kind that's going to allow someone to

575
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 2: dictate who I'm friends with. Because you're sure as hell

576
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 2: did baby cakes? You sure did you let Shannon get

577
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 2: you canceled from my wedding list? Which is sad. It's

578
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 2: sad because that was an event of a lifetime and

579
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 2: it's a once in a lifetime, So it's sad.

580
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 1: Honey, No, let me ask you this because I actually

581
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 1: feel sad right now.

582
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 3: Was that hard to watch?

583
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, because then it all made sense because nothing made

584
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 2: sense before. And then I'm doing the timing and I'm like,

585
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 2: I wonder if they were on a trip back then.

586
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,479
Speaker 2: So then I text Hammer, when did you guys go

587
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 2: to or talk to Tammer? I'm like, when did you

588
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,120
Speaker 2: guys go to Amsterdam. What month was that? Exact same timing,

589
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 2: exact same timing, as she is distancing me. And when

590
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 2: I go back to my text exchange that three weeks

591
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 2: that she wouldn't answer and went kind of cold on me.

592
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 2: Was that, I mean now we've talked now, we've talked

593
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 2: to ten since then, and sorry, Shennon, we do talk

594
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 2: and she has my friends, so I don't know what

595
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 2: she's telling you, but I'll just one here.

596
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,640
Speaker 3: Wait, you and Jims are about past that. A're talking now.

597
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 2: Yes, we are texting now, back and forth. She texted

598
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 2: me on my wedding day. Listen to this. She texted

599
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 2: me on my wedding day and said, I hope we

600
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 2: you know, I know we don't listen to all the noise,

601
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 2: and I know you're going to beautiful bride today, wishing

602
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:33,239
Speaker 2: you the best or whatever. And I text her back

603
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 2: and I said, wow, that means the world to me,

604
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 2: and something like, you know what you should be here.

605
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 2: I wish that there was a time when we didn't

606
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 2: have space come between us. Had not seen this scene,

607
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 2: by the way, had not seen this episode CAU. Remember

608
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 2: I got married two weeks ago, so I text her

609
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 2: and I'm like, you know what, you and Ryan really

610
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 2: should be here. I wish we'd never had the space,

611
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 2: you know, the distance come between us, but I get

612
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 2: the world we live in and this TV show's rotten sometimes,

613
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 2: but you should be here. If you want to slap

614
00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 2: on a wedding outfit and you and Ryan want to come,

615
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 2: let me know. I'll make sure there's space for you,

616
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 2: because I would have just scootered a couple of people

617
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 2: over and made the eight top of ten top, you know,

618
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 2: cause we had a couple of eight tops and not

619
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 2: all of them were ten, So I'm like, we'll just

620
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 2: squeeze them in, you know. But then you know, she's like, no,

621
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 2: I'm in San Diego, but thank you so much, and

622
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 2: you know, I'm glad that you know, and I just

623
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 2: you know, we are on good terms. It's like we

624
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 2: can squash that. But I'm not going to tell you

625
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 2: that that scene didn't hurt me, because that made it

626
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 2: all come It all came to light then I understood why.

627
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 2: And I wish Jen would have just texted me back

628
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 2: then and said when I was can't when I and

629
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 2: disinvited her, I wish she would have just said, I'm sorry,

630
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 2: Shannon did get in my ear, I am feeling torn.

631
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 2: That would have made me respect the situation a little

632
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 2: bit more, you know, But I didn't get that. Instead,

633
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 2: I got why are you disinviting me? This is odd?

634
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 2: Why that's an odd thing to do? And I'm just like, no, No,

635
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 2: it's five months from my wedding and I've talked to

636
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 2: you in three weeks, not by having someone come to

637
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 2: my wedding that doesn't reply after I have surgery, thank you. No.

638
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 2: So anyway, well, and now.

639
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: It's interesting because the whole time she's pissed that you

640
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 1: just invited her, she already told Shannon she wasn't coming

641
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: right crazy.

642
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 2: But now it's all making sense because of this episode.

643
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 2: Now it's all.

644
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: You know.

645
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 2: It just it sucks. It did suck. It hurts. It

646
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 2: hurt my feelings a lot.

647
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 3: Okay, I have to ask you this because you know me.

648
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: I'm very honest with you, and I never want to

649
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 1: put you in a colorful situation.

650
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 3: But I gotta be real.

651
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: When I saw that scene and I saw Jen tells

652
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 1: Shannon pretty much, I'm not going I gotta know be

653
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 1: loyal to you pretty much, it reminded me of Heather's

654
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: excuse of not going to your wedding, and how she

655
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: brought up Shannon's name and to hear Shannon tell Jan

656
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: thank you.

657
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:53,719
Speaker 3: This is my theory and I can be alone.

658
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck.

659
00:30:55,880 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 1: I believe Shannon had that same conversation with him, and

660
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: I believe, based on the fact that I now know

661
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: Shanna gave people ultimatums, I believe she gave head the line,

662
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: and I've been Heather was like Jin and gave what

663
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: was best to continue fimming with Shannon, and.

664
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 3: I just agree.

665
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 2: I disagree with that because Heather and I have texted

666
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 2: back and forth since since that whole watch What Happened Live?

667
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 2: We have texted back and forth and we're going to

668
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 2: have a conversation about it. It's just I'm in Missouri now.

669
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 2: We haven't had the time to actually have a phone call.

670
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 2: But she did say she's sorry, and she did not

671
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 2: mean it any of that that way. She did a long,

672
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 2: lengthy like I sent her a text as long, she

673
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 2: sent me one back this long. I love the girl,

674
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 2: and I know that we all mess up in this industry,

675
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 2: and the problem with being on national television is you

676
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 2: do say things. I mean, look at me. My mouth

677
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 2: goes faster than my brain a lot of the time,

678
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 2: So I'm easy to forgive people on that when they've

679
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 2: owned the mistake and said they're sorry. Heather did and

680
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 2: it was from the bottom of her heart. It was Alexis,

681
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 2: I should have just ended it at that I was

682
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 2: a cat's thing, but I just started talking. And I

683
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 2: don't mean that. I do love you, Terry, and I

684
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 2: do love you guys like you know, like we I

685
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 2: don't know what was on her mind that day to

686
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 2: keep going, but Shannon did not have any control over Heather.

687
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 2: But yes, she has control over Jin or did Okay

688
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 2: now I think Now, I don't think Shannon does because

689
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 2: Jen is reaching back out to me and talking to me,

690
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 2: So I don't think Shannon ends up having the control

691
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 2: that she thought she had on Jen. I just wish

692
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 2: Jen would have had a backbone back in April because

693
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 2: she would have been at my wedding two weeks ago

694
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 2: had that happen.

695
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, and also.

696
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: Listed also thinking of what you said to that, I

697
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: have been thank for years that listen some of these

698
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: shows are alliances and it's and listed And I'm also.

699
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 3: Going to bend the girls too.

700
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: It is very hard to film these shows.

701
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 3: I mean, Alexis, you know that.

702
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: And what I want the general audience to understand is this.

703
00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 3: Imagine going to.

704
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: Work and no one talks to you, and you have

705
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 1: to do that every day for eight hours a day.

706
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 2: Is tough, and sometimes go on a trip and sometimes

707
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 2: go on a trip where you're together three or four

708
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 2: days straight and sometimes you fill in ten or twelve

709
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 2: hours and you only get an hour break. I mean,

710
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,239
Speaker 2: I know, Carlos, That's why I have a capacity to

711
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 2: forgive and move on and a compassion for these women

712
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 2: because I've been in the same shoes. And the ones

713
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 2: that have a good heart and the ones that I

714
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 2: you know, that apologize and I can tell they really

715
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 2: mean it and talk to me off camera and we

716
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 2: still meet up and do things. Those are the ones

717
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 2: that you know really didn't mean it and it was

718
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 2: a TV moment. Like I've said before, it's the other

719
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 2: times that you're you know, you can't move past it.

720
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 2: But but I do. I do feel compassion for these

721
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,479
Speaker 2: women because it's tough. It's a tough job, and you

722
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 2: do say things sometimes. I mean, think about this, Carlos,

723
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 2: every America or every human not American. Every human says

724
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 2: something that they go, oh, why did I say it

725
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 2: like that? That don't do even what I mean. It happens

726
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 2: in life daily with people, So on national television you're

727
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 2: actually being videoed and you know it's going to air.

728
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 2: It stinks, you know, it's like it's hard. It's a

729
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,280
Speaker 2: lot of pressure, and you don't always mean everything you say.

730
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 2: It comes out wrong. Everyone's human, and so that's why

731
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 2: I tend to be able to forgive and move on,

732
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 2: you know. But I do have a line, Carlos, and

733
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 2: when that line gets crossed for the final time, I

734
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 2: am still cordial, but I don't go back, and so

735
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 2: it takes me a long time to get there. But

736
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 2: when I am, it's that's the end. So right now

737
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 2: I have the Gin and Heather are not at the

738
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 2: line yet. They're just you know, they both didn't make

739
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 2: the wisest choice. They both kind of apologize. I mean,

740
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 2: Jen hasn't really just even though I feel this way,

741
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 2: we haven't had the talk yet because I just watched

742
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 2: the show last night, so I barely protested it, and

743
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 2: that six hours I slept to even be like, oh

744
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,399
Speaker 2: my gosh, now it all makes sense. I go back

745
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 2: to my text and it's like, you know, the detective

746
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 2: alexis coming back to work here.

747
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: Detective alexive and love, I'm happy you were able.

748
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 3: To clear things up.

749
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: And look, the ladies are after them and what we

750
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: see next week's episode is going to be a course

751
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: of drama.

752
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 2: Oh look, what do you think about the cook? Okay,

753
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 2: so I really want to go to Amsterdam? By the way,

754
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 2: what do you think about the cupcake or the what

755
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 2: was it a muffin? The space muffin space cake? What

756
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 2: do you think? First of all, how much of it

757
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 2: would you eat? Because I'm scared. When I was watching

758
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 2: the girls they were taking another bite, like some one

759
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:31,800
Speaker 2: of them was taking a few bites. I'm like, I

760
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 2: would probably take one and wait an hour because I

761
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 2: would be scared, crapless about what it.

762
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 3: Was going to do to me, Like, well, the big

763
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 3: big of me. I I'm not a cannabis person.

764
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: Oh I'm so afraid of how I would act taking

765
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: or dabbling into a space cake.

766
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 3: Listen, I'm such a fucking nerve. I pod won't do it.

767
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 2: You want to see it even more?

768
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 3: Carlos with you, I don't jink, I don't spoke.

769
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: So the idea of be like eating a space cache

770
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: is sort of like scary, but but you're like me,

771
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: your personality is on one hundred.

772
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 2: Anyway, I would love.

773
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 3: To see you in it.

774
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 2: Well, I've taken it, John, and I taken a gummy before.

775
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not a big cannabis person at all either.

776
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 2: My mom liked to smoke the joint and I thankfully

777
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 2: I got to smoke one with her, right well, a

778
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 2: couple puffs. I'm not going to say a joint, but

779
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,879
Speaker 2: like I smoked a couple puffs before she ever passed away,

780
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 2: because I used to. I used to ridicule her and

781
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 2: be like, stop doing that stuff long, it's so bad

782
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 2: for you. And then, you know, as I matured and

783
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 2: got older, you know, I remember going to her house

784
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,839
Speaker 2: and and we I just landed two and a half

785
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 2: hour drive. It's like, you know, six hours to get

786
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 2: to her, and and she was like, let's just have

787
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 2: a pep. And I'm like, I'm thirty five, an or

788
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 2: fur or whatever. So I'm like, okay, oh hannay, oh hannay,

789
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 2: you wouldn't die. I was laughing my butt off, okay,

790
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 2: which I already laugh a lot, and I just I

791
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 2: thought that I was like the world the room sitting

792
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 2: like I was. But then John and I have done

793
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 2: a gummy you know, I think maybe twice in our

794
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 2: two years together, and I we're just fun. It's fun

795
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 2: and funny. You know, we're definitely not around the kids

796
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 2: when we do that. It's an adult night and we

797
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 2: pretty much stay in the house because it's like, you

798
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 2: don't want to you don't want to be out with that.

799
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 2: But I'm not a cannabis person either, but I think

800
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 2: it's kind of fun. And watching the girls, you know,

801
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 2: watching Heather and and Shannon on it and they were

802
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 2: stone soup. I was like, this is I want to

803
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 2: se I want to see you high.

804
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,439
Speaker 3: I'm so nervous. I'm full over it. So I don't

805
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 3: got a few minutes left with you before I let

806
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 3: you go. Yes, you know the OC girls tape their

807
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 3: reunion last week.

808
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: Did you hear anything that happened?

809
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 2: I'm a I'm a vault Carly, but we'll have fun recapping. Okay, well, okay, wait.

810
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 3: Are you the stuff you heard? Good stuff?

811
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 2: Well, I mean it's gonna be a good no ask

812
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 2: me what? No, no, goo.

813
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 1: Ahead, good stuff for the audience, but maybe not necessarily

814
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 1: for the cast.

815
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, but isn't that the way every reunion goes. I've

816
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,240
Speaker 2: never seen a reunion that's good for the cast, Carlos,

817
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:33,439
Speaker 2: that's like the stupidest thing you've ever said. Hell would

818
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 2: freeze over good for the cast. Okay, you don't make

819
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 2: that money to be on entertainment on TV and have

820
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 2: a good reunion for yourself. Buddy, that's where we're in.

821
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 2: You are wearing depends to the reunion because you crap

822
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 2: your pants all the time. You are you are taking

823
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 2: your red bull because you know what and I mean no,

824
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,879
Speaker 2: there's no good reunion for the cast, but it's gonna

825
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 2: be a good reunion.

826
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,320
Speaker 3: Okay, you know what's a buddy, Alexa, that's but probably

827
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 3: be put on his what.

828
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 2: Producer hat because that was such a producer.

829
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 3: Lie, you're so right, you like problem. It's good for

830
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 3: your fucking producers. Not necessary, but.

831
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 2: Well, you know about you were just waiting to see

832
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 2: what I would say. I love it, I love it,

833
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 2: I love it, I love it.

834
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:18,280
Speaker 3: I love you.

835
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 2: Well, hold one, hold on because you have a lot

836
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 2: of friends in high places. Have you heard anything I heard?

837
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 4: It's going to be a good show for us to readnap.

838
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. I might need to bring two red

839
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 2: bulls for that one, honey, And wait, might I to

840
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 2: go on that one? We might cheers by the way here, cheers,

841
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 2: cheers cheers. We might need to uh go an hour

842
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 2: and a half on that one. I know we try

843
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 2: to keep it at forty five. That one might take

844
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 2: us to an hour, hour, ten minutes. I'm not sure.

845
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:56,399
Speaker 3: Well, I'll spare days, sister. I've just spent days with you,

846
00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 3: so trust me. Let's block off the fucking time that

847
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 3: Alexis Jansen Okay, I love what you say that.

848
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 2: Say it again, Alexis Jansen. Wow, We're the Jansons. It's

849
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 2: on Spotify. We had a guy guy blessed not to

850
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 2: rhyme for uh and surprise the heck out of our

851
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,439
Speaker 2: whole audience. And my brother called me after the wedding

852
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 2: and is like, Sis, that song I can't get out

853
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 2: of my head. I'm like, I know, it's so like

854
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 2: I can't even get the beat now because I haven't

855
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 2: heard it for you know, two weeks. But it's like

856
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 2: we're the Jansons, and it's like he was just so

857
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 2: freaking epic because he's been John's private chef for like

858
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 2: fourteen years, fourteen years or something, for sixteen dinners John's

859
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 2: had with him, so I'm like, he knows him. So

860
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 2: it's just funny.

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Speaker 3: So I love it. I love listen. I love it.

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Speaker 3: I love you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much, have a great weekend, and I'll

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Speaker 1: see you next week, my darling.

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Speaker 2: Bye guys.

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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is executive produced by me Carlos King,

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Speaker 1: produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partnership.

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Speaker 3: With the Lack Effect Network.

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Speaker 1: You can also find us on my YouTube channel at

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Speaker 1: the Carlos King Underscore