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Speaker 3: Stretton and now your hosts, Isaiah Standback, Nick Harris, John Mashoda,
Speaker 3: and Kyle Yeomans.
Speaker 2: It's a Tuesday edition of Talking Cowboys presented by Black
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Speaker 2: in the SWBC studios. It is now officially week twelve
Speaker 2: of the NFL season, and we are going up against
Speaker 2: the Caroline or excuse me, not the Carolina They've already
Speaker 2: taken down the Carolina Panthers, or beat the Kiddy Cat
Speaker 2: thirty three to ten. Was that beat down all right?
Speaker 2: Nate Newton, he called him the Carolina kiddies all weekness.
Speaker 4: And it was all he called what he called they
Speaker 4: ended up being. But they're taking on the Washington.
Speaker 2: Commanders on Thursday Thanksgiving showdown at at and T Stadium.
Speaker 2: We've got Isaiah stand Back, John Machoda back in the building.
Speaker 4: Nick Harris, Chris Beam.
Speaker 2: First off, John, it's the first time you've gotten to
Speaker 2: see Nick Harris alive after Friday's show.
Speaker 4: What did you think? I know you were watching because
Speaker 4: you were texting it in the middle of it.
Speaker 5: I was not surprised that he handled it as well
Speaker 5: as he did.
Speaker 4: Thanks man, that's real.
Speaker 6: That's a real support right there.
Speaker 7: And went in thinking that it would be very entertaining
Speaker 7: from the you know, hot sauce perspective. Did not think
Speaker 7: that the whip cream would steal the show. And I
Speaker 7: say that as a person who's probably watched man at
Speaker 7: least thirty maybe more of those hot ones.
Speaker 5: Interviews on YouTube.
Speaker 7: That you know they go through that process of means yeah,
Speaker 7: eating I don't know, eight ten wings and then the
Speaker 7: hot sauce keeps getting hotter and hotter, and so watching
Speaker 7: those you've seen, I've just seen so many different things
Speaker 7: that people have done, whether it be drink beer, water, milk, milkshakes,
Speaker 7: ice cream, and ever. I've never seen the whipped cream
Speaker 7: and somebody did that. I'm like, they need to incorporate
Speaker 7: that because it like.
Speaker 8: It was it set up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was set up. I don't know if you
Speaker 4: guys know that or not, but that was a setup.
Speaker 5: That was That was amazing.
Speaker 4: Isaiah Isaiah told me good lot. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Isaiah was like, I'm gonna get him some whipped cream,
Speaker 2: and I was like really, I was like why.
Speaker 4: I was like, I've never heard of that same thing
Speaker 4: of what you're saying. I was like, I've never heard of.
Speaker 2: Anybody using whipped cream before. He's like, trust me, it's
Speaker 2: worth it.
Speaker 4: I was like, all right, dude, whatever.
Speaker 9: Nobody, You're not going to turn down whipped cream if
Speaker 9: it's sitting in front of your face and your mouth
Speaker 9: is on fire.
Speaker 8: Yeah, there's no chance.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I've already finished one of those bottoms. By the way,
Speaker 10: did you Oh yeah, Oh you did good stuff.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 5: I enjoyed that.
Speaker 6: Don't go there.
Speaker 4: I also tracked.
Speaker 5: I also enjoyed Isaiah. Isaiah's impression of me.
Speaker 10: You like that?
Speaker 11: Oh god?
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I was cracking up at then said like I laugh though.
Speaker 4: Oh man, that was great.
Speaker 7: It lived up to the expectations. And a lot of
Speaker 7: times when you build something up like that, it doesn't.
Speaker 7: But no, that was that was great man. Like I said,
Speaker 7: the whip cream really took it, took it over the
Speaker 7: top there.
Speaker 5: That was hilarious.
Speaker 2: One of my favorite episodes of all time. It's not
Speaker 2: my favorite episode.
Speaker 4: Go back and watch it. It's on YouTube. It's Friday show.
Speaker 4: It's it's called coming in Hot is uh is the
Speaker 4: name of the show.
Speaker 5: So at what point where you got back to one
Speaker 5: hundred percent goodness?
Speaker 6: Probably not until like one pm that day, honestly, Yeah.
Speaker 5: My mouth, Oh that day you were fine.
Speaker 6: Yeah that day I was fine.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was shocking, like my my mouth. It probably
Speaker 6: took a good couple hours.
Speaker 5: So like it was, it was yeah, so like you
Speaker 5: couldn't taste anything.
Speaker 10: I could taste things. It was just everything was hot. Yeah,
Speaker 10: everything was like the web cream was hot.
Speaker 6: Like it was. It was just a hot day for me.
Speaker 4: Hot day.
Speaker 9: Oh how fire Yeah, hot fire.
Speaker 4: What were your thoughts on the game?
Speaker 5: John very similar to the Giants game?
Speaker 7: Mm hm, Gonya say, it's my first time they've ever
Speaker 7: been at a at a game where usually before games,
Speaker 7: I don't sit in the press box.
Speaker 5: I like to walk around switching as a stadium.
Speaker 7: I haven't been to a bunch and I'm sitting there
Speaker 7: and I see Jimmy Johnson's down there, and then I
Speaker 7: see that you tweet that there's a twelve forty press comerce.
Speaker 7: I'm like, Oh, I better get back up there, and
Speaker 7: I'm thinking they're going to really do this, like ten
Speaker 7: minutes for this game start, So that was that was
Speaker 7: a stunner to me. And honestly, I mean, had I
Speaker 7: missed like the first three series because of that. I
Speaker 7: can't think of another game where I didn't watch the
Speaker 7: first three series, so I had to go back and
Speaker 7: watch those just because of that was going on at
Speaker 7: the time. So that was That's, frankly, will be the
Speaker 7: thing that I always remember from that game. And then
Speaker 7: on the feet able to just like just talking to
Speaker 7: some people that cover the Panthers, I just knew it
Speaker 7: wasn't gonna be good for them.
Speaker 8: I mean, they're in a.
Speaker 7: Bad spot like every like the whole thing. It's not
Speaker 7: just on the field, it's off the field, coach all that. Like,
Speaker 7: they're not in a good spot there. So it would
Speaker 7: have been bad if the Cowboys would have lost that game.
Speaker 7: And hey, when they cut it to seventeen ten, there
Speaker 7: was a little bit of that like leaning forward in
Speaker 7: your seat like are they going to let them back
Speaker 7: into this game? And then I say, my biggest takeaway
Speaker 7: on the field is probably just that how is Deron
Speaker 7: blank continue to do this. I mean, it's it's one
Speaker 7: thing to get the interceptions. Hey, that's and that's impressive
Speaker 7: in itself, but to have four pick sixes in one season.
Speaker 5: I've been playing.
Speaker 7: Football for a long time, you know, and you look
Speaker 7: at the list of people that have done that, and
Speaker 7: it's not very long, and it's not like it just happens,
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, every three or four seasons you'll get one
Speaker 7: of these.
Speaker 5: It's very rare that that happens.
Speaker 7: And I think that how much time he's got to
Speaker 7: possibly get number five. And I don't know why, but
Speaker 7: it just stands out more to me just because just
Speaker 7: being around him over the last you know, year and
Speaker 7: a half, he's just such a quiet dude, doesn't really
Speaker 7: say much. And for a guy that's making those type
Speaker 7: of plays of the cornerback position, usually think of someone
Speaker 7: that would like, you know, have some dances and things
Speaker 7: like that, and he's not like that at all. He's
Speaker 7: just completely like laid back, quiet, keeps to himself. And
Speaker 7: then after the game, I don't know, I think the
Speaker 7: thing that shot out to me I kept thinking about
Speaker 7: is just how you have this nucleus of him Mike
Speaker 7: and Trayvon Diggs that you can build on. I mean,
Speaker 7: they're all in their early twenties. How big that that
Speaker 7: could be, you know, going forward on that side of
Speaker 7: the ball. Just because of the time I've covered the
Speaker 7: Cowboys has mostly been very offensive driven, and now they
Speaker 7: got these key pieces on defense.
Speaker 2: It really is crazy because I mean the list, like
Speaker 2: you said, it's four names, and the last time it
Speaker 2: happened was nineteen eighty three. Is the last time that
Speaker 2: somebody had four pick sixes in a season?
Speaker 4: And we're ten games in. There's so much room left
Speaker 4: to work.
Speaker 2: And if you even take away the four pick sixes,
Speaker 2: let's say he doesn't have a single pick six this season.
Speaker 4: He's still having a phenomenal year, fantastic year.
Speaker 2: But the fact that he scored four touchdowns which ten
Speaker 2: games end of the season, it's more than Tony Pollard,
Speaker 2: It's more than Brandon Cooks, more than most of the
Speaker 2: key pieces not just in Dallas, but on the offensive
Speaker 2: side of the football in the NFL. Four touchdowns is
Speaker 2: a that's a great year for anybody. And he's out
Speaker 2: there doing things like that.
Speaker 9: Isaiah, Yeah, I mean, he's taking care of business. I
Speaker 9: actually went back and reviewed all of his interceptions last night,
Speaker 9: and you know, I think there's only one that kind
Speaker 9: of fell into his lap. Outside of that, he went
Speaker 9: and got every single one of them. So I mean,
Speaker 9: he's making plays. He's not falling into plays. He's literally
Speaker 9: positioning himself, whether he's closing in on receivers, you know,
Speaker 9: from being two or three yards away the ball gets
Speaker 9: released and he closes that gap by accelerating ridiculously fast,
Speaker 9: or he's going up in high pointing the ball, or
Speaker 9: he's just being Johnny on the spot. No matter what
Speaker 9: it is, he's just he's playing really good ball right now.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 9: But even aside from the aside from the turnovers, this dude,
Speaker 9: his coverage is at top of the league right now.
Speaker 9: So that's the thing that people need to spend more
Speaker 9: ten on as well. Obviously, the takeaways is awesome. We
Speaker 9: did the same thing with Trayvon and and dB last
Speaker 9: year when they had those takeaways, but they're consistent. Actual
Speaker 9: defense against receivers game in and game out, outside of
Speaker 9: turnovers is something that he needs to be praised for.
Speaker 7: What is impressed you most, Like, let's just take the
Speaker 7: one from Sunday, because the way that that route starts,
Speaker 7: he's kind of behind a little bit. Yes, and so
Speaker 7: there's a part of me where I'm kind of like,
Speaker 7: is the closing speed the most impressive thing?
Speaker 4: Is it?
Speaker 12: That?
Speaker 7: The ability to get back to his feet and then
Speaker 7: the run back down the field?
Speaker 5: Like, what do you think what stood up most to you?
Speaker 8: I mean three yards?
Speaker 9: So he was beat by alignment, just purely off the ball, right,
Speaker 9: nothing he can do about that.
Speaker 8: He lined up outside the receiver.
Speaker 9: The receiver decides to run a shallow route, you know,
Speaker 9: going away from where he is, so right off the back,
Speaker 9: he's losing on the route. Okay, the receiver goes all
Speaker 9: the way across. The receiver made the mistake of going
Speaker 9: of drifting upfield. It's something that they are very adamant
Speaker 9: about teaching receivers. When you're running a shallow route or
Speaker 9: a drive route or anything across the formation, you stay flat. Right,
Speaker 9: So say if I'm running down a twenty yard line,
Speaker 9: you want to stay across the twenty yard line and
Speaker 9: maybe even come down hill. You never want to drift
Speaker 9: up field because it allows that defensive back the slit,
Speaker 9: the slight opportunity to come underneath your your route. Now,
Speaker 9: and that's exactly what the d around blind did. The
Speaker 9: receiver started drifting upfield, maybe about a yard or two,
Speaker 9: not even too maybe about a yard upfield, and that
Speaker 9: little bit of an angle up allowed around Bland and
Speaker 9: he came flat the entire time and he accelerated, took
Speaker 9: that ball straight out of it and tumbled, got up,
Speaker 9: did a twinkle toes and kept it going.
Speaker 7: I will say this, and maybe you guys will disagree
Speaker 7: with me on this, but the effort of that wide
Speaker 7: receiver just was so indicative of where I think the
Speaker 7: Carolina Panthers are at.
Speaker 5: Like it's just like it's it's weird.
Speaker 7: But I'm just saying, like just covering football, there's like
Speaker 7: things like that that will happen that you can just
Speaker 7: tell like, yeah, stuffs probably not going well over there.
Speaker 7: Like without I'm just saying, you didn't get to know.
Speaker 7: They're not even gonna tell you what the records of
Speaker 7: the two teams are. Just well, just watch this play
Speaker 7: real quick, like you who do you think is having
Speaker 7: a good seat and whatever?
Speaker 5: Just like the whole way that I also.
Speaker 7: Thought it from our perspective, like, man, we would be
Speaker 7: certainly criticizing that that after effort.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 8: I mean, that's that's what I've talked about.
Speaker 9: When we're sitting up here and I'm saying, you know,
Speaker 9: somebody's like, oh well this players on and off or
Speaker 9: these guys you know lost to this team. I'm like,
Speaker 9: players literally have the ability to turn it off, turn
Speaker 9: it on, and if your season's not going well, guys
Speaker 9: are getting the same check regardless. People don't like to
Speaker 9: hear that, right, but it's everybody has a day where
Speaker 9: they going to work.
Speaker 8: And they kind of check a box.
Speaker 9: Is that's saying that's something that you're proud of, but
Speaker 9: everybody has those days recheck a box. When you're losing,
Speaker 9: and you're losing team and you're playing a game that
Speaker 9: can literally mess up your physical well being, you're not
Speaker 9: doing anything extra. If things are in shambles, You're like, Okay,
Speaker 9: I'm doing my job, doing my job. Oh that happened,
Speaker 9: Oh well, well they're not gonna change anything, you know.
Speaker 9: That's that's your natural instinct for most guys. It's just
Speaker 9: like for what, you know, if your coaching staff is
Speaker 9: messed up, if you're having issues with your coaches and
Speaker 9: the front office is trash, if the training staff is
Speaker 9: out there, you know, doing some you know shenanigans on
Speaker 9: the back. And there's a whole lot of things that
Speaker 9: go on within a professional football organization that will lead
Speaker 9: players to turn the switch off, and when things are
Speaker 9: going well, it's easier and easier than not just to
Speaker 9: keep it off.
Speaker 4: Is that indicative of bad coaching?
Speaker 2: The fact that player I mean, I know players will
Speaker 2: naturally do that, but is in a coach's job to
Speaker 2: make sure they're in that means?
Speaker 8: But if you don't care for your coach, the d
Speaker 8: do given no extra effort, or if.
Speaker 7: You know that your coach isn't going to be there
Speaker 7: that long. You got a three four year deal. This
Speaker 7: my guy's then going to be here for another six games,
Speaker 7: you'll probably be gone.
Speaker 9: Now times where you will see guys effort up higher.
Speaker 9: And I know what I'm saying people don't want to hear,
Speaker 9: but I'm just.
Speaker 8: Telling you the truth.
Speaker 4: Okay, that's just what behind the scenes scene.
Speaker 9: So if somebody's in their contract year, Oh are you
Speaker 9: gonna get hustle? Yeah, you're gonna get the You're gonna
Speaker 9: get the Kung Fou hustle. Because now all of a sudden,
Speaker 9: everything I do is on film and you need to
Speaker 9: see it and I need to make sure I have
Speaker 9: all positive players.
Speaker 4: Call it the Kung Fu hustle and food hustle maybe yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah for me, and I think probably I think a
Speaker 7: lot of Cowboys do feel the same way. Is that
Speaker 7: on a Cowboys team that gets so much of a
Speaker 7: spotlight on it, there's one if things are going badly
Speaker 7: and if you do something wrong, like we'll just use
Speaker 7: the Carolina Panthers as an example because they just play
Speaker 7: them all right.
Speaker 5: We were talking about this in the press box twenty twenty.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 7: One of the highlights of twenty twenty, which is a
Speaker 7: low light, is Xavier Woods doing the Zoom interview saying
Speaker 7: about how well you're not gonna go out there and
Speaker 7: make every play. Yeah, hey, say that for the Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 7: We won't even know about it. That thing led Sports
Speaker 7: Center when he did.
Speaker 8: Yeah I did.
Speaker 7: I will never forget that. And I mean it's just
Speaker 7: something like that. But like the Cowboys, so on one
Speaker 7: side it's magnified. The other is when things are going well,
Speaker 7: why wouldn't you want to be part of like the
Speaker 7: Cowboys team that finally won a Super Bowl after twenty
Speaker 7: seven plus whatever year.
Speaker 4: So there.
Speaker 7: It just is a little bit different with the Cowboys
Speaker 7: because if you do some of that stuff, it's giving
Speaker 7: me the major talking point like for the next couple
Speaker 7: of days nationally.
Speaker 2: Oh, they'll be household names if they ever get it done.
Speaker 2: And they're already household names because they're part of the
Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys. But even more so than what what it
Speaker 2: is now, it'd be unbelievable the amount of attention that's
Speaker 2: already on this team if they are the ones that
Speaker 2: finally in that drought that's.
Speaker 4: I don't even know.
Speaker 7: I mean that year, twenty twenty year because we you know,
Speaker 7: it was during the pandemic, so we did all those
Speaker 7: zoom interviews. I'm telling you two my biggest takeaways that
Speaker 7: are not takeaways memories from twenty twenty are literally the
Speaker 7: Xavier would saying that on the call and then the
Speaker 7: defensive corner are getting hot.
Speaker 5: Sauce in his eye. Again. That was like a thing
Speaker 5: that was like led Sports Center.
Speaker 4: Don't worry me, didn't you didn't you didn't lead Sports Center?
Speaker 6: Nah No, not not this time. I want a backshark
Speaker 6: real quick.
Speaker 10: Which of Bland's interceptions do you think landed in his lap.
Speaker 10: Was it the rams one or the giants when we're
Speaker 10: trying off popping off to the Trademon Traymon, I feel
Speaker 10: like the rams one was kind of given to him too.
Speaker 9: I mean it was a bad decision, but he went
Speaker 9: up and Hyph pointed it and got it right.
Speaker 10: It was like super underthrown and it just went right
Speaker 10: into his Yeah.
Speaker 5: From yeah, Stafford threw out into the flat.
Speaker 10: And it was super right away right there. I mean
Speaker 10: it was it was good instincts, yes, but it kind
Speaker 10: of felt.
Speaker 4: So even though I was just curious what even on
Speaker 4: that one.
Speaker 8: I watched that one last night as well.
Speaker 9: Even on that one, he was in position and he
Speaker 9: still had to cut and make go make a play
Speaker 9: on it, right, the one one Trayvon Trayvon made hit him.
Speaker 8: He hits Sakuon Barkley.
Speaker 9: The ball popped up they were playing z on and
Speaker 9: it just laying it in his lat right. So that
Speaker 9: was more so like the one that he kind of
Speaker 9: fell into. It still was in position, all that kind
Speaker 9: of jazz. But that was the one that I say,
Speaker 9: he didn't have to work for all the other ones.
Speaker 9: He went and got himself the thing I keep.
Speaker 5: Thinking about too, is that okay?
Speaker 7: So what point does it get where quarterbacks will stop
Speaker 7: testing a guy?
Speaker 5: And then I just think of, well, if.
Speaker 7: You have him on one side and then you know
Speaker 7: Diggs on the other when he's healthy, like, well, you're
Speaker 7: gonna still have to throw to somebody, Like you're gonna
Speaker 7: have to target somebody, Like I can't just not throw
Speaker 7: to one side. It's one thing when it's like that
Speaker 7: year with like when the Jets went out got Durrell Reebs,
Speaker 7: It's like, well, don't throw over to Revas's side, you know,
Speaker 7: do something. And I think they had Crimarti on the
Speaker 7: other side or whatever. Someone's gonna get terrible. But I'm
Speaker 7: just saying, like it was all right, just don't don't throw.
Speaker 4: You're not gonna throw.
Speaker 5: But now if you've got two guys, like what are
Speaker 5: you going to do?
Speaker 7: And then you have Micah rush in the passer and
Speaker 7: everything that comes with that, all the extra attention and
Speaker 7: stuff like that. I mean, the Cowboys are in a
Speaker 7: good spot defensively going forward.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really exciting to see there's guys stepping up
Speaker 2: every week. But Ron play man, it's really cool to
Speaker 2: see what he's doing real quickly.
Speaker 4: Before we take our first break, do we have any
Speaker 4: news and nothing.
Speaker 10: Yeah, we'll just address the injury report that came out
Speaker 10: of yesterday. Since it is a short week, there are
Speaker 10: three practice days, you know how Typically Tuesday, typically Mondays
Speaker 10: and Tuesdays are kind of slow around here.
Speaker 6: Not the case this week.
Speaker 10: They the Cowboys had a practice walk through yesterday, so
Speaker 10: they released an injury report kind of an estimation had
Speaker 10: they had a full practice, and there were a few
Speaker 10: guys that did not practice.
Speaker 6: A couple of guys that did not practice.
Speaker 10: Rico Dawdle with his ankle injury that almost kept him
Speaker 10: out of the game on Sunday, but he ended up playing.
Speaker 10: He did not practice yesterday with that same ankle injury.
Speaker 10: Jy Ron Curse with a back injury, did not practice,
Speaker 10: Ceedee Lamb with an ankle injury, was limited, and Terrence
Speaker 10: Steele with an ankle injury was limited, and then Cavante
Speaker 10: turpin Osa, Digiezua and and Peyton Henders Shot.
Speaker 6: Were all full participants.
Speaker 10: We were able to ask Mike McCarthy about the concern
Speaker 10: level about Ceedee Lamb and Jaron Curse yesterday.
Speaker 6: He said quote there's not a high.
Speaker 10: Concern, So it looks like those by the sound of that,
Speaker 10: it sounds like there's confidence in Thursday, but nothing's a
Speaker 10: given just yet.
Speaker 8: Hind Dog is full.
Speaker 13: Huh.
Speaker 10: Yeah, he's been full ever since he's he's been brought back,
Speaker 10: or since his practice window has been opened. And that
Speaker 10: was another question that was asked yesterday. It's still kind
Speaker 10: of up in the air. If he gets activated before Thursday.
Speaker 2: He's got more weak right years, you have to go
Speaker 2: to the end of the week and then he has
Speaker 2: to be on the active ross.
Speaker 10: I think he can miss these next two games, but
Speaker 10: then the Monday after the Seahawks game, he would have
Speaker 10: to be activated, got.
Speaker 9: It, think, I think that's that's twenty one days.
Speaker 10: But but yeah, he doesn't have to be activated ahead
Speaker 10: of the Commanders game because they would have to make
Speaker 10: room for him too.
Speaker 6: That's that's the biggest thing. That's the biggest thing.
Speaker 4: He's seeing these tight ends getting these receptions.
Speaker 2: Schoonmaker Ferguson Hinder shot he's the I think he's the
Speaker 2: best play making tight end on the roster.
Speaker 4: As a pass catcher, yeah, As a pass catcher, yeah.
Speaker 9: A route runner, I think he's the best at that.
Speaker 9: He just hasn't shown it. I mean we've seen it
Speaker 9: in practice. Yeah, he hasn't ever heard Yeah.
Speaker 4: I'm saying, but we've seen it right behind the scenes.
Speaker 9: We've seen it. We've seen what he's capable of doing.
Speaker 9: The fans necessarily haven't seen a whole lot. But we
Speaker 9: know what he's capable of. He just has to bring
Speaker 9: it to the field.
Speaker 2: I will say I was thinking about it the other day,
Speaker 2: just with the excitement on the defensive side of the
Speaker 2: ball of the young pieces that are starting to step up.
Speaker 2: I still wish Demarvion Overshown was in that on that
Speaker 2: defensive side, and then offensively John Stevens. Those were two
Speaker 2: guys that flashed in training camp, and both of those
Speaker 2: guys would have been so fun just in their respected
Speaker 2: positions and didn't get a chance to see it this year.
Speaker 4: A lot of talent does not on his roster right now,
Speaker 4: quote unquote roster.
Speaker 6: I blame you because they got hurt in Seattle.
Speaker 4: Hmm, both of them.
Speaker 6: I blame you.
Speaker 9: See what he did there, I did. I thought I
Speaker 9: was going to get some of that next week. I'm
Speaker 9: getting that this week.
Speaker 10: Yeah, we get started early you're wearing the krack in hoodie.
Speaker 4: Did they win last night?
Speaker 13: You know?
Speaker 4: Probably?
Speaker 8: Probably?
Speaker 4: The Stars won last night.
Speaker 2: Stars put up six unanswered goals last night against the
Speaker 2: New York Rangers.
Speaker 8: It's cool. That's cool.
Speaker 4: How many wins you guys got.
Speaker 8: Early in the season. We'll see you guys in the
Speaker 8: playoffs again.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't know if he'll make it there. All right, Well,
Speaker 4: when we come back home, I'm talking cowboys.
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Speaker 4: Where'd it go? All of these just disappeared on me
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Speaker 2: To a conversation we had previously, he said, the hot
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Speaker 4: He should, we should make it a weekly thing. I
Speaker 4: don't know if any of us are up for a
Speaker 4: weekly segment like that one.
Speaker 5: You think I'm done with that.
Speaker 4: John's got it. Uh.
Speaker 2: But he went back to an old conversation about the
Speaker 2: ends of the bread.
Speaker 8: Oh, good conversation.
Speaker 2: Ends of the bread, he said, it goes in the trash.
Speaker 4: Wow, yeah, I disagree, man.
Speaker 6: What now the ends of the bread like bread crust?
Speaker 4: Yeah, like the the end of the bread.
Speaker 9: The actually past that last that question along as a
Speaker 9: social this year, and they asked the players.
Speaker 10: Okay, so we're talking like a loaf of bread, yeah,
Speaker 10: talking about them the.
Speaker 7: Last Okay, that's always going in the garbage. I'm sorry, No,
Speaker 7: I'm not eating that.
Speaker 6: I will eat it.
Speaker 8: Come from privilege, I will.
Speaker 10: I will eat it. But my dog loves bread like
Speaker 10: that is his thing. He is like he flips out
Speaker 10: over bread. So I give you the end of the bread.
Speaker 10: That's the what a treat for him?
Speaker 5: He flips, What are you doing with this end of
Speaker 5: the bread making a sandwich?
Speaker 8: I'm a peanut, butter and jelly guy.
Speaker 9: So if I have three pieces left of the loaf, okay,
Speaker 9: I grabbed the regular piece, regular piece, and then you
Speaker 9: have the in cap okay, booty bread, incap whatever you
Speaker 9: want to call it.
Speaker 8: I'm making it a triple layer.
Speaker 5: That's I guess where I'm coming from, is that's not
Speaker 5: getting tossed. Okay, but are you ever grabbing that first,
Speaker 5: like oh, this.
Speaker 8: Last resort?
Speaker 9: Yeah, you bypass the in cap at first, But when
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Speaker 9: three pieces of bread, two fool pieces in the in cap, oh,
Speaker 9: I'm making a three three part sandwich.
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Speaker 5: I can see that, alright, I can see that.
Speaker 4: I get what you're saying.
Speaker 7: I thought you meant like you're going for that because
Speaker 7: it's like your favorite part on this nobody's going for that.
Speaker 6: I'll do the end pieces and make like a.
Speaker 8: What I'm talking about.
Speaker 4: Yeah, see his privilege right here.
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Speaker 4: What is Jimmy Johnson's symbol going to be?
Speaker 5: I'll tell you right now.
Speaker 7: When I was sitting at that press conference here, there's
Speaker 7: multiple times where I looked at him, I was like,
Speaker 7: I can't believe.
Speaker 5: His hair still looks like amazing. It looks at the
Speaker 5: exact same.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, if there was something with Jimmy would
Speaker 7: have to be his hair. I just think when they
Speaker 7: won that first Super Bowl, what did em it do?
Speaker 7: He messed up Jimmy's hair. You know, it was like, oh, hey,
Speaker 7: we're going to mess up his hair. I mean Jimmy
Speaker 7: Johnson's hair for me in sports, I guess for coaches,
Speaker 7: I don't know, like I put it up there with
Speaker 7: like kind of like pat Riley was another one, like
Speaker 7: when they won, people would want to like mess up
Speaker 7: his hair, you know, right, let's go. And there's probably
Speaker 7: some other ones I'm forgetting, but it would have to
Speaker 7: be his hair.
Speaker 4: That's what I was thinking.
Speaker 10: So tex Shram has a star, it wouldn't surprise me
Speaker 10: they just put a star.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's no way that.
Speaker 6: There's no maybe a whistle, there's no way.
Speaker 4: There's no way.
Speaker 7: They're just putting a little like like the lego hair
Speaker 7: like just like they're just putting the hair like the
Speaker 7: next to the name.
Speaker 5: There's no way they're doing.
Speaker 6: That like over his name, like.
Speaker 5: I'm in.
Speaker 15: Uh.
Speaker 2: Doug from Florida wanted to remind Isaiah that the crack
Speaker 2: and lost in overtime yesterday had the lead with four
Speaker 2: minutes left to go in the third and lost it.
Speaker 6: That, yeah, what the cracking could be eighteen right now?
Speaker 6: And I don't think I don't think I. Saia wouldn't.
Speaker 4: Isaiah would have no clue. A T shirt fangles.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: Mike from Boston, this is a this is a good question.
Speaker 2: How concerned are you with our slot corner situation right now?
Speaker 2: With with Jordan Lewis seems to be a step behind
Speaker 2: is what he says.
Speaker 8: His ability to.
Speaker 4: Stay healthy worries uh.
Speaker 2: Worries Mike, who would be the next corner up if
Speaker 2: you were able to need a corner back?
Speaker 4: He said, Happy Dallas Cowboys Thanksgiving.
Speaker 10: Yeah, let me start on this one because I actually
Speaker 10: had a conversation with Zach Walchuk from the Fan about.
Speaker 4: This last funny. He texted me last night about it
Speaker 4: about the.
Speaker 6: Same exact thing. That's funny.
Speaker 10: Yeah, we had a conversation about it, just because I
Speaker 10: had written after the Panthers game that Jordan Lewis is
Speaker 10: starting to stack some really good reps and he's had
Speaker 10: a couple of good games. I'm not sitting here saying
Speaker 10: that he is. I'm not sitting here saying that he
Speaker 10: hasn't had bad stretches of this season, because he has.
Speaker 10: I think he started the season really poorly. But if
Speaker 10: you factor in the fact of him having to come
Speaker 10: off this rehab for so long, not getting training camp,
Speaker 10: not getting those first few practices of the season, then
Speaker 10: just having to jump into the year, it was always
Speaker 10: going to take him a while to get to get
Speaker 10: back to used to playing football. I think he's to
Speaker 10: that point now. Like basically, what I wrote in Sunday
Speaker 10: is Sunday's call or Calum, whatever you want to say,
Speaker 10: is that I feel like he is back to where
Speaker 10: he wants to be. I think if you had asked
Speaker 10: him to be like, Okay, I'm probably pretty comfortable right now.
Speaker 10: The one drive that sticks out to me from the
Speaker 10: Carolina game was the one where they drove eight minutes
Speaker 10: down the field in seventeen plays and three fourth down
Speaker 10: conversions and the five Adam Dealan receptions and three of
Speaker 10: them were on on Jordan Lewis. Yeah, he got beat
Speaker 10: a couple of times on that drive, but if you
Speaker 10: look aside from that drive, he was stacking some really
Speaker 10: good reps. He stacked good reps against the Giants, and
Speaker 10: he did it against the Rams as well, against that
Speaker 10: really talented receiver group. So Jordan Lewis is continuing to
Speaker 10: be highlighted every single week based on the slot matchups
Speaker 10: that these these cowboys have had to face recently. And
Speaker 10: I think in the last three weeks coming off the bye,
Speaker 10: he's done a better job than he did before the bye.
Speaker 10: That being said, you know, if he if there's not
Speaker 10: any more improvement from this exact point, then I still
Speaker 10: think there's something that needs to be figured out at
Speaker 10: the slot going forward.
Speaker 7: So you're trying to bring back Kelvin Joseph that you.
Speaker 5: Don't have to bring, well, yeah, you did it.
Speaker 6: I still stand on it.
Speaker 10: Bring back Kelvin, Joseph need Corner, death'd gunner depth.
Speaker 7: Next step would probably be Kuama problem. I don't think
Speaker 7: they're moving.
Speaker 10: It would be easy your one ye, Thomas and I
Speaker 10: would like to see either of those guys get a shot.
Speaker 10: But the thing is bring back Gilmour and let Bland
Speaker 10: work in the slot for another one or two years.
Speaker 6: Like I'd be completely okay with that. Yeah, I'd be
Speaker 6: completely okay with that.
Speaker 4: Okay, anything on Jordan.
Speaker 9: Uh, you can't expect j lou to be old Jay
Speaker 9: Lou right off the back after that injury that he sustained.
Speaker 9: That's just I talk about injuries and overcoming them all
Speaker 9: the time. It's gonna take some time for him to
Speaker 9: come back to be full stream, just like it's gonna
Speaker 9: take some time for Terrence Steel to be Terrence Steele.
Speaker 9: If you give Terren Steel grace, please give Jordan Louis grace.
Speaker 9: These are these are real injuries that are hard to overcome.
Speaker 9: These guys are out here, fully capable of making plays
Speaker 9: and doing their job. It's just there's gonna be times
Speaker 9: where they still question their abilities and question their respond
Speaker 9: to their body's response to things. Let them go through
Speaker 9: those growing paints you winning ball games. It's not killing you.
Speaker 9: He's he's They will be there when you need them.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2: Sean from Austin said, missed the first part of the show.
Speaker 2: Did John c the Hot Sauce Bet Payoff? You guys
Speaker 2: are awesome? Love the podcast he did and we talked
Speaker 2: about it. Go back and watch it, Sean, You'll you'll
Speaker 2: get caught up. You'll like, You'll like John's answer.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 2: Dan from Philly says the end pieces are great for
Speaker 2: grilled cheese.
Speaker 4: Interesting, go there.
Speaker 2: Kenton los Crusis says, for Jimmy, they need to add
Speaker 2: a can of super Hold hairspray.
Speaker 4: Yeah, just bring the hairspring That's cool.
Speaker 2: We've got some more Cowboys questions a hit, but first
Speaker 2: let's go to Seth in New York.
Speaker 4: You're on Talking Cowboys, Seth. What's going on?
Speaker 18: Good morning, guys, How are you great?
Speaker 4: How are you? What's on your mind?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 18: So, I got a question, and my question is basically,
Speaker 18: I'm gonna give you guys four names. Who would you
Speaker 18: rather have starting a franchise? Jack Prescott, Josh Allen to
Speaker 18: a tongue Biloa, Jalen Hurts, and I'm gonna throw in
Speaker 18: Patrick Mahomes because we just saw Jalen Hurts and Patrick
Speaker 18: Mahomes last night and I have feelings.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so there's five five names.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Seth. Appreciate the call. Five names.
Speaker 5: I mean it was gonna be tough before the Mahomes
Speaker 5: is added in there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Mahomes.
Speaker 8: Mahomes would be.
Speaker 4: The easy pick for me.
Speaker 2: Same, but so let's take let's take him out of there.
Speaker 2: Let's he said original four names, So let's go with
Speaker 2: the four names. It was Josh Allen, Jalen Hurts, Dak
Speaker 2: Prescott to a tongue of the label.
Speaker 6: Okay, who am I starting a franchise with today?
Speaker 4: Today?
Speaker 10: I want to try to go first Hurts, Yes, Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 10: I agree.
Speaker 4: I didn't want to be the first you want, you
Speaker 4: want Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 8: I'll be the first guy. Yeah, and it hurts.
Speaker 9: He has more physical capabilities than any of those other guys.
Speaker 11: Mmmm.
Speaker 4: He doesn't have a stronger arm than three of those guys.
Speaker 8: There's not a throw that you feel like he misses.
Speaker 9: He has full ability to utilize his legs and he's
Speaker 9: willing to use his leakes.
Speaker 4: I also think he scanned up the right way.
Speaker 6: It was Hurts. To anybody that, oh, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 7: I would go to, I would probably say Hurts right now,
Speaker 7: just because of the season Josh Allen's having.
Speaker 5: Before the season, I would have said.
Speaker 7: Josh Allen, I probably would have too, Dak injuries, age
Speaker 7: or start start factoring. But then I feel that way,
Speaker 7: what's coming with Hurts too? I mean, he's not going
Speaker 7: to play like that five years from now. He might
Speaker 7: not play like that two years from now.
Speaker 8: They say they said start your franchisement.
Speaker 7: Yeahah, But but when I'm looking at who's starting my
Speaker 7: franchise with, I'm looking not just for this year.
Speaker 5: I'm looking down the way next. I mean quarterback, you
Speaker 5: should be looking at ten years.
Speaker 7: Sure you shouldn't with one of those top quarterbacks in
Speaker 7: today's game, wherever every every tough tackle there is is
Speaker 7: taken out of the game to make them the game
Speaker 7: is designed.
Speaker 5: For your franchise quarterbacks to play fifteen years in this league.
Speaker 10: I mean there's a lot of quarterbacks that have played
Speaker 10: ten years in this league already.
Speaker 5: That should be your goal.
Speaker 9: What are you saying I'm not I'm not expecting anybody
Speaker 9: to play five years in this league.
Speaker 4: Really, I'm not five.
Speaker 8: I'm not counting on ten years.
Speaker 4: I'm making five years in the back position.
Speaker 8: That's the expectation. That's cool for you guys, that's.
Speaker 4: Realistic.
Speaker 2: But that's what you have to do from a franchise standpoint,
Speaker 2: because you can't say, Okay, let's press pause on this
Speaker 2: thing for five years and then maybe five years down
Speaker 2: the line, then we'll give him a realistic opportunity to
Speaker 2: make it. No, you put your your chips to the
Speaker 2: middle of the table with your quarterback position. If it
Speaker 2: works out, it works out. If it doesn't, you've got
Speaker 2: to try it again.
Speaker 10: This is season of How it goes eight with Dak
Speaker 10: Prescot's awesome. He's gonna make it ten years.
Speaker 4: He is.
Speaker 10: There's to a tack of you're talking about going to
Speaker 10: make it ten years, franch is going to make it exactly.
Speaker 4: We don't have to have the same you know, perspective.
Speaker 9: I personally am not expecting any player to last ten years.
Speaker 9: I'm not relying on a player to have a ten
Speaker 9: year career in one spot.
Speaker 6: Wow, So you're not relying on Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 5: He's all I keep thinking about.
Speaker 9: When he's saying that, I'm saying I'm not putting it all,
Speaker 9: and I'm still I'm drafting people to be in position.
Speaker 9: Should something happen before ten years, that's okay, I'm not again,
Speaker 9: my outlook is five years.
Speaker 4: That's not a franchise.
Speaker 10: Quarterback exactly, because if you're a GM and you're like, okay,
Speaker 10: I can pick anybody to have a franchise quarterback, longevity
Speaker 10: might be like number two on the list of things
Speaker 10: I would need one talent to longevity, and with that
Speaker 10: I take Mahomes.
Speaker 5: Yeah that's not even close.
Speaker 4: Yeah it's Mahomes in Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 6: He's in like season eighteen or nineteen.
Speaker 9: Homes is only ever is I am not ever a
Speaker 9: planning on anybody lasting ten years. If it happens, awesome,
Speaker 9: but I'm not putting all my chips relying on one
Speaker 9: person to last me ten years.
Speaker 12: Now.
Speaker 7: Ten years ago, I would agree with you. But the
Speaker 7: way that the game is now, I mean they're making
Speaker 7: it so that these guys aren't going to get major
Speaker 7: or shouldn't get major hits and things like that. I mean,
Speaker 7: they wanted to be as safe as possible, because, let's
Speaker 7: be honest, it's the best for the league.
Speaker 5: If that happens, it's the best for the league.
Speaker 7: If Joe Montana plays fifteen twenty years, you know, it's
Speaker 7: the best for the league. Of Tom Brady and Patrick Mahomes,
Speaker 7: these guys play fifteen twenty years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and play at a high level through that time.
Speaker 2: Hertz and Tua are both twenty five. Those would probably
Speaker 2: be my two picks there, just because they are younger
Speaker 2: and we're talking about durability longevity between the two. I
Speaker 2: know two has probably had some injury history. So I'd
Speaker 2: probably say Hurts out of the four that we took
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes out of the conversation.
Speaker 4: If they were the same age.
Speaker 2: If Dak Prescott was still twenty five and I'm starting
Speaker 2: a franchise today, I would probably pick Dak, But just
Speaker 2: not right now, not at this point where the agers
Speaker 2: do line up. All Right, We've got we're going across
Speaker 2: the pond this time around.
Speaker 4: We've got Reggie in Germany. You're on talking Cowboys, Reggie.
Speaker 4: What's going on?
Speaker 12: Hey, what's up, guys? How you go doing?
Speaker 4: It's doing great?
Speaker 12: All right? First, I just want to wish all of
Speaker 12: you guys are wonderful Thanksgiving, but the family hope you
Speaker 12: have you a wonderful time. We don't celebrate it over
Speaker 12: here at the Bummer. That's my favorite holiday and I
Speaker 12: really missed my family on that day. But I wish
Speaker 12: you guys every Thanksgiving.
Speaker 4: Thank you very much, Reggie Durability.
Speaker 12: Secondly, I want to put I want to extend that
Speaker 12: conversation you were having on our injured players. You were
Speaker 12: talking about Moshawn. I'm sorry always get his name screwed up.
Speaker 12: Our linebacker overshone, that's right, overshone, and I'm hender Shot
Speaker 12: and a couple other guys that that will be returning shortly.
Speaker 12: The question is we've already got a really talented team.
Speaker 12: We were discussing that. So when they come back, who
Speaker 12: has to go? Somebody has to leave?
Speaker 4: A wonderful good question.
Speaker 12: You guys handle that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I appreciate the question, Regie, appreciate the call. Two
Speaker 4: good questions today.
Speaker 2: So who's the odd man out out of that group
Speaker 2: of players? Hindershot Stevens will throw him in there, since
Speaker 2: we talked about him earlier.
Speaker 8: Who's the odd man leave or yeah?
Speaker 4: Or when of those guys come back at some point.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 9: I think we addressed that a couple of days ago
Speaker 9: in terms of who would have to be the guy
Speaker 9: that leaves, and I think we all kind of settled
Speaker 9: on Billy Arma Fojoko if I remember correctly.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and then he did, Yeah.
Speaker 4: They put him on IR.
Speaker 8: Yeah that happened.
Speaker 7: Ye, So okay, but hold on, I guess I'm lost
Speaker 7: on this With Stevens and Overshown though, then they're not
Speaker 7: coming back.
Speaker 2: I think I think he was referring to the injured
Speaker 2: players this year. I think I misunderstood he was referring
Speaker 2: to guys this year that are going to return back.
Speaker 2: He was talking about Hindershot, Like, when Hindershot comes back,
Speaker 2: it was the odd man.
Speaker 4: So maybe at the tight end position, I would say
Speaker 4: Sean McEwan.
Speaker 10: But it's Hendershot the only one that would come back.
Speaker 10: That's on IR right now.
Speaker 8: I believe so.
Speaker 4: I think you're right.
Speaker 6: I believe so.
Speaker 9: I think everybody else is out depending on what position, Yeah,
Speaker 9: I mean so depending on what position. Obviously, Hendersho would
Speaker 9: probably be the guy that comes back, and then at
Speaker 9: that point Sean McEwan would have to step away. If
Speaker 9: it was another position group, then I think you probably
Speaker 9: get rid of Duce Vaughan unfortunately.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 10: Yeah, because if you look at guys that have been
Speaker 10: in active consistently, especially as as of late, guys that
Speaker 10: really haven't contributed in big time moments, Duce fall would
Speaker 10: probably be the first one that jumps to Brooks.
Speaker 4: Eric Scott Junior. He's a Special Teams for sure.
Speaker 9: What I'm saying I depended on a position, right, I mean,
Speaker 9: you're not using all those receivers.
Speaker 2: Before Brooks, and I think they would take I think
Speaker 2: they would take Vaughan before they take.
Speaker 4: Eric Scott Junior. Scott Juniors on.
Speaker 2: That conversation as well, because he hasn't been active really
Speaker 2: at all, Special Teams regular doesn't matter.
Speaker 7: At least the least likely to get picked up by
Speaker 7: another team. Oh it's not Eric Scott.
Speaker 4: It's definitely not going to pick him up.
Speaker 7: I'm not saying that that necessarily is where he'll be
Speaker 7: and whatever, but I'm just saying I can see someone
Speaker 7: picking him up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm looking C J. Goodwin. He'll probably come back off.
Speaker 5: Of I R probably not.
Speaker 4: Oh that's right, I forgot about that storyline. Is well,
Speaker 4: let's go out for the year of the year he
Speaker 4: could be. Yeah, So I think that's it. Yeah, I
Speaker 4: think that's about it, right.
Speaker 6: Yeah, So all right.
Speaker 4: Let's take our second break.
Speaker 2: When we come back, we'll keep taking your phone calls,
Speaker 2: answering the text messages.
Speaker 4: Keep the good questions flowing.
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Speaker 2: We've got John Machoda say his stand back, Nick Harris,
Speaker 2: and Kyle Yeomans Chris Beam in the back mike from Maryland.
Speaker 2: He provided us a statement on the text line. He said,
Speaker 2: with all praise the secondary is getting and glad to
Speaker 2: see them balling out. More love needs to be given
Speaker 2: and shown to cornerback.
Speaker 4: Coach Al Harris.
Speaker 2: For the incredible job he's been doing with this group.
Speaker 2: And I completely agree, completely agree.
Speaker 4: He's a dude.
Speaker 6: You know he's my uncle right.
Speaker 8: Now. He's a dude.
Speaker 9: Ha Al Harris. I think it's not an accident. The
Speaker 9: position groups that are that are rising this team. You
Speaker 9: think about the tight end group with Linda Wells, doesn't
Speaker 9: matter who goes in that room, somebody always always pops
Speaker 9: out as a primary contributor to this team. Now you're
Speaker 9: seeing it at the cornerback position. It doesn't matter who
Speaker 9: goes in that room. Somebody outside of your high draft
Speaker 9: picks pops up as a primary contributor to this team.
Speaker 9: It's a testament to this coaching staff. It's a testament
Speaker 9: to the front office for getting these guys and putting
Speaker 9: them on staff and taking care of them financially so
Speaker 9: they don't go jump ship. They have a solid staff man.
Speaker 9: They really do have a solid staff. There are some
Speaker 9: hard decisions that were made last year where some really
Speaker 9: good coaches had to leave, but I think the guys
Speaker 9: that are in place and have been in place, you're
Speaker 9: starting to see the benefits and the payoff, right You're
Speaker 9: starting to see the upside of keeping these guys in
Speaker 9: place allowing him to develop this talent.
Speaker 2: Yeah, two five, three, Oh, this is Maurice.
Speaker 4: McCrae from Tacoma, Washington. What's sneaky tail tag town longtime.
Speaker 5: Listeners say the same thing, the exact same thing.
Speaker 2: Took it right out of John's vocabulary. My question is
Speaker 2: that I would like to see Sam Williams out there
Speaker 2: more often. Being that we're a little light at the
Speaker 2: linebacker position. Why not put him back there and use
Speaker 2: his speed to be more effective along with his size.
Speaker 4: You guys laugh, he is.
Speaker 7: I'm laughing at the question. I'm laughing at Isaiah's reaction. Okay,
Speaker 7: people are watching. You don't get to see some of
Speaker 7: the reactions.
Speaker 4: I get to see.
Speaker 5: That's why I was laughing, not laughing the questions questions player.
Speaker 5: I just was laughing at Isaiah's face.
Speaker 4: He's doing a great job at what they're asking him
Speaker 4: to do.
Speaker 9: A big portion of coaching is putting your guys in
Speaker 9: position to be successful based upon their attributes that they possess.
Speaker 9: Sam Williams does a great job of running straight and fast,
Speaker 9: yep and physical and relentless.
Speaker 8: That's why they put him at gunner.
Speaker 9: Two hundred and sixty pounds at the gunner position going
Speaker 9: against one hundred and eighty to two hundred pounds defensive backs. Yeah,
Speaker 9: he's dominating at the gunner position. All these fair catches
Speaker 9: are not happening by chance. He is forcing fair catches
Speaker 9: by my boy, Matthew Slater, who's been to one hundred
Speaker 9: and seventy two Pro Bowls out there in New England.
Speaker 9: The majority of reasons why he goes to the proberb
Speaker 9: of year because he forces fair catches play after play
Speaker 9: after play, and is to play that nobody pays attention
Speaker 9: to because the dude waives his hand, he catches.
Speaker 8: It and then go to commercial.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 9: But the reason why that guy is fair catching is
Speaker 9: because there's a large human being standing in front of
Speaker 9: him that if you don't catch it, he's gonna take
Speaker 9: your head off.
Speaker 6: He's not standing in front of him, No, he's running.
Speaker 9: He's running, So two hundred and sixty pounds running at
Speaker 9: gunner is crazy.
Speaker 8: They put him in a position to do that. He's
Speaker 8: very successful.
Speaker 9: They put him at the defensive and position to fill
Speaker 9: in whenever the other guys are rotating out.
Speaker 8: What does he do?
Speaker 9: He's successful as long as he's not making pre snap
Speaker 9: on these and things of that nature. Right, So they're
Speaker 9: putting him in positions that he can handle, and they're
Speaker 9: building up his tolerance as they continue to as he
Speaker 9: continues to gain their trust. Right, the more successful he
Speaker 9: is in the small bite sites that that they're giving him,
Speaker 9: the more trust that he will earn, and then they'll
Speaker 9: give him more and more opportunities. Let's not take him
Speaker 9: out of those elements right now. Let's let him continue
Speaker 9: to build confidence. Let's not throw him to the Lions.
Speaker 9: Will you know the Lions? Lions den at linebacker position,
Speaker 9: that's a whole new monster. You see Michael Parsons at
Speaker 9: the second level, he looks like a fish out of water.
Speaker 9: Let's put him back on the defensive and position. That
Speaker 9: has nothing to say, nothing to do with his abilities
Speaker 9: as a rusher and an athlete. Positions are just that
Speaker 9: they are specific positions where guys are specialists.
Speaker 8: At linebacker is difficult, It is very difficult.
Speaker 9: You talk about vander Ash his contributions, he's a good
Speaker 9: he's a good linebacker, but there's times that vaner Ash
Speaker 9: is running to the wrong holes because of the reds.
Speaker 9: You saw the same thing from Mic at this past weekend,
Speaker 9: Michael was at the second level. They did different runs
Speaker 9: and Michael was running to the opposite side where the
Speaker 9: run was going.
Speaker 8: It's a hard freaking position to play.
Speaker 9: Is high on instincts, is high on being able to
Speaker 9: see and trust your eyes and make decisive decisions. It's difficult,
Speaker 9: so not everybody can play it. That's why a big
Speaker 9: shout out to Marku's Bell for what he's been able
Speaker 9: to do. He even had a rough game in terms
Speaker 9: of some of his reads his last game, but what
Speaker 9: he's been able to do coming down not having been
Speaker 9: his primary position is huge.
Speaker 10: They're already experimenting with a defensive lineman and moving him
Speaker 10: back into the second level and Tyros Sweet, and if
Speaker 10: there were injuries to happen in that second level, then
Speaker 10: Tyros Sweet would be one of those guys in that
Speaker 10: second rotation.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Two to one four says good morning.
Speaker 2: Can you guys talk about Dak's pocket awareness and presence.
Speaker 4: It looks like he's improved in that area since the
Speaker 4: San Francisco game. I agree, his.
Speaker 9: Footwork's crazy right now. It's crazy. When I say crazy,
Speaker 9: I mean good. Good You hear coach McCarthy talk about
Speaker 9: that day in and day out and during training camp
Speaker 9: talking about how important the footwork is to the position
Speaker 9: group and what they've done to change the footwork at
Speaker 9: that position this year, and you're starting to really see
Speaker 9: that show up.
Speaker 8: He's he's not, he's.
Speaker 9: It's such a sense thing, right, You sense guys around
Speaker 9: you use your peripheral you know, vision to see guys
Speaker 9: where most people can't see. You know, there's one hundred
Speaker 9: two hundred and seventy degree radius, you know, in terms
Speaker 9: of your perperle vision. Quarterbacks are able to see that,
Speaker 9: and that is a developed skill. And then your feet
Speaker 9: have to coincide with what you're seeing, right and what
Speaker 9: you're feeling, and it becomes a dance. It becomes a dance.
Speaker 9: Some of the best quarterbacks that we've seen on Earth
Speaker 9: had great footwork. Drew Brees had great footwork. Tom Brady
Speaker 9: had great footwork. All these guys that everything started with
Speaker 9: their feet, and you're starting to see that happen as
Speaker 9: they get comfortable with this offense, dacks started to really
Speaker 9: flow around the pocket and moving, you know, move very
Speaker 9: very fluently and then be able to deliver the ball
Speaker 9: with confidence.
Speaker 7: And a factor in that too is kind of what
Speaker 7: you talked about last week with players having confidence even
Speaker 7: if you're a star player like everybody needs confidence and
Speaker 7: that I think some of the confidence also comes from
Speaker 7: the fact that now we've got three games in a
Speaker 7: row with that same starting offensive line. I mean, he's
Speaker 7: got to feel a little bit more comfortable knowing, Hey,
Speaker 7: you know, I can be looking different things because I
Speaker 7: know what I got out here. You know, I trust
Speaker 7: this group. I'm sure that that's contributed at least a
Speaker 7: little bit.
Speaker 10: There were some plays during the Giants game where he
Speaker 10: was showing some pocket wizardry, and he's done it a
Speaker 10: few times with especially coming off out of the out
Speaker 10: of the by. He's looked really good in that in
Speaker 10: that department. But man, yeah, there's you're you're seeing it too.
Speaker 10: One oh, you are definitely seeing it.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: Three point five.
Speaker 12: Uh.
Speaker 2: This is Scott Murdoch from Rochester, New York. He says,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of chatter from Eagles fans, and of course,
Speaker 2: whenever it comes from Eagles fans, you got to check
Speaker 2: it with a grain of salt. They're calling Cede Lamb
Speaker 2: slot boy, acting like his numbers aren't as impressive because
Speaker 2: he's lining up in the slot a lot. This makes
Speaker 2: no sense to me. Isn't that a good thing? That
Speaker 2: CD is a versatile weapon and can be moved around.
Speaker 6: You know who else a slot boy? Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 4: It's fair. I really wish Kenna City would have won
Speaker 4: day game.
Speaker 8: Yeah too.
Speaker 6: You know who's not slot boy Marques tang It. Oh horrible.
Speaker 9: Yeah, appreciate the comment, question whatever, but Scott, keep holding
Speaker 9: your own.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think you're right, that's dumb slot boy really.
Speaker 7: Oh went he knows it because he said me mention it,
Speaker 7: like I think it was last week of the week
Speaker 7: before that that he's like, oh, they're calling me slap.
Speaker 7: I don't know if he said slot boy or slot whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 7: it was after you know he had his like third
Speaker 7: one hundred and fifty yard plus game or whatever like
Speaker 7: that during the week he brought it up. So yeah,
Speaker 7: he's probably hearing that. But he's obviously a complete receiver. Yeah,
Speaker 7: even if he was just play in the slot, go
Speaker 7: ahead and name name five guys you'd rather have than him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be hard. That'd be hard right now. And
Speaker 2: I mean even Michael Irvin was talking about it a
Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 4: He was up here at the Star and.
Speaker 2: He made the comment that he has the chance to
Speaker 2: be the best of all the eighty eight because he
Speaker 2: can play in the slot.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because he can play outside. He has that back
Speaker 4: and forth versatility with it. And I think if if
Speaker 4: Michael Irvin's saying that.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna be all right, keep catching balls,
Speaker 2: keep keep scoring touchdowns.
Speaker 7: What has impressed you most about City Lamb's game this year?
Speaker 7: I'm going to show the players side by his release,
Speaker 7: So I don't know, like he worked a ton of.
Speaker 4: This offseason on his releases. Yeah, I mean it's a ton.
Speaker 9: And you see a lot of this Instagram stuff where
Speaker 9: guys are doing all kinds of craziness.
Speaker 4: It's a lot of that stuff is really just to
Speaker 4: build your instincts. You know.
Speaker 9: I was just talking about instincts in terms of Dak
Speaker 9: and his footwork, and it's the same thing at the
Speaker 9: receiver position. You can't be thinking about, hey, if he
Speaker 9: shoots his hand here, I'm going to do this. Like
Speaker 9: a lot of that stuff just has to be reactive.
Speaker 9: And I think when you train yourself over the entire
Speaker 9: duration of the summer on one particular portion of your craft,
Speaker 9: all of a sudden that becomes something that you add
Speaker 9: to your tool belt and that's something he's added to
Speaker 9: his tool belt. People are not able to get their
Speaker 9: hands on him. If they do get their hands on him,
Speaker 9: he's getting them off relatively quickly, instinctively.
Speaker 8: And his focus is on the ball. It's not on
Speaker 8: the person that's in front of him.
Speaker 2: I think another thing is the way he attacks the
Speaker 2: stem of his routes, the way he's able to hit
Speaker 2: the top of the route and create separation. It's I mean,
Speaker 2: it is impressed of how much separation he's building.
Speaker 10: And those things go hand in hand, releases and then
Speaker 10: top of the walls being able to create separation, Like,
Speaker 10: there's a lot of the same things that go into
Speaker 10: both of those things. So yeah, you can definitely tell
Speaker 10: he's a little bit more physical, he's a little bit
Speaker 10: more confident, and his feet are a lot better as well.
Speaker 10: When all those things combined together, that's that's what you're getting.
Speaker 9: You see him every year he's adding something. Last year
Speaker 9: he added size. When he came to camp last year,
Speaker 9: eybody was like tangs, did he put on some side right?
Speaker 9: And then this year you're talking about the releases. Hey, okay,
Speaker 9: the boys releases is nice now. So every year he's
Speaker 9: just he's picking one thing to improve on. It's not
Speaker 9: like he's trying to attack everything. He's like, Okay, let
Speaker 9: me add this to my game. Let me add this
Speaker 9: to my game. And that's why you're seeing him just
Speaker 9: continue to get better.
Speaker 6: Can I ring myco bag? Can I get my sicko
Speaker 6: bag for it?
Speaker 10: There's a lot of skill trainers that are moving to
Speaker 10: Houston right now, like just around around the country. I
Speaker 10: don't know why, but there's a lot of them. And
Speaker 10: he went down to Houston over this offseason trained with
Speaker 10: a lot of those guys down there. There's a lot
Speaker 10: of really good people down there that are doing good work,
Speaker 10: and you're seeing that manifested. So yeah, there's a little
Speaker 10: bit of credit to the city of Houston and what
Speaker 10: city CD Lamp's been.
Speaker 4: Able to do well, h Town.
Speaker 10: Well yeah, okay, when draft time comes around, I'll really
Speaker 10: get my cycle back and tell y'allus trainers around here
Speaker 10: in Houston and Dowboys.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a draft show plug right there.
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Speaker 4: Look this week.
Speaker 2: Tomorrow will be our final show of the week prior
Speaker 2: to the Thanksgiving matchup with the Washington Commanders.
Speaker 4: We're gonna preview both sides of the football.
Speaker 2: We'll have a defensive preview, we'll have Isaiah's QB vision,
Speaker 2: plus we'll make our Pickham standings. We'll give you the
Speaker 2: update on the Pickham standings tomorrow as well. That does
Speaker 2: it for us here for Talking Cowboys today, though for
Speaker 2: Chris being Isaiah, standback, John Michoda, Nick Harris, I'm Kyle
Speaker 2: Yeoman saying so long from the Star on Frisco. We'll
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