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Speaker 1: Hi am Kate Hudson, and my name is Oliver Hudson.

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Speaker 1: We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship and

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Speaker 1: what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling,

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Speaker 1: railval No, no, sibling. You don't do that with your mouth. Revely,

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Speaker 1: that's good, Oliver, Oliver. I honestly, this is Oliver. Hair

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Speaker 1: off before you get into this thing. What yeah, yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: She surprised me too. She just like walked in the

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Speaker 1: house and like, holy shit, and she goes, oh my god. No,

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Speaker 1: looks so cute? Yeah, of course, it's amazing and her

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Speaker 1: hair reminded me of dumplings all her. I loved this

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Speaker 1: so much. I this was one of my favorite ones

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Speaker 1: that we've done because we really haven't explored the food world,

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Speaker 1: you know, like I want to. And I kept saying,

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Speaker 1: you know, I want to get some of my friends

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Speaker 1: on and there because I'm such a foodie and it's

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Speaker 1: a problem. It's why I created businesses that helped me

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Speaker 1: So we interviewed Hannah and Mary and Chang. They are

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Speaker 1: sisters and they founded the cutest, yummiest dumpling restaurant sort

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Speaker 1: of a shop called Mimi Chang's Dumplings, named after their mama. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and they started the restaurant using her her their their

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Speaker 1: mom's secret recipe because food was such a big thing

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Speaker 1: is why I think anyone who loves food other than

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Speaker 1: obviously the creative nature of creating, you know, new dishes

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Speaker 1: how we bring people together. Their story, too, is great

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Speaker 1: because the way they got into this, I mean they

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Speaker 1: both had like prominent gigs just so far from the

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Speaker 1: It's like, you know what, I don't want to do this,

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Speaker 1: sounds crazy, but Mom, you know I'm going to throw

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Speaker 1: it's it's not an easy industry to be and you

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Speaker 1: so it was it was really nice. Also, you know,

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Speaker 1: do frozen dumplings that you can get that they order.

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Speaker 1: They also do this really fun thing on their website

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Speaker 1: where you can do a dumpling making Uh They'll they'll

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Speaker 1: teach you how to make dumplings so you can get

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Speaker 1: all the dumpling stuff they send it to you and

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Speaker 1: So I just before we get into this episode, I

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Speaker 1: you should dumplings. I love dumplings. Yeah, and I'm want

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Speaker 1: We pitched it to that I know, sibling. We got it.

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Speaker 1: So enjoy this wonderful episode with Hannah and Marion Shank Hi. Hi,

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Speaker 1: how are you guys? How are you great? It's like

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Speaker 1: springtime in New York City. So I have a new

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Speaker 1: a ten year lead, which is lunacy. Anybody who asked

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Speaker 1: then I just threw a snowball, like basically like a

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00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 1: sheet of ice. There's sheet of ice at my face.

424
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,160
Speaker 1: It wasn't a snowball. It was a sheet of ice. Yeah.

425
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. You guys were like you were like you're

426
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,919
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take you down. But wait, was was it

427
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 1: equally loving? Meaning like yes, it was back and forth?

428
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 1: Was it real? Actually like I just I don't want

429
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 1: to be with you, like I just can't stand here.

430
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 1: I think it was equally as loving, because you know,

431
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 1: the second so one picked on her. Her I would

432
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,919
Speaker 1: step in and be like, no one picks on her

433
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 1: except for me. She's my sister. Only I get to

434
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: pick on her. She was the great protector. Yeah, we were.

435
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 1: We were staying at her friend's house once and our

436
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: friend I don't know started picking on Mary and Mary

437
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: was crying and we were outside, so I just picked

438
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: up the garden hose and I turned it on and

439
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 1: sprayed her in the face until she started crying. And

440
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: I was like, no one does that. Hannah. You sound

441
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 1: pretty fierce. She is like a shooter. When's your birthday?

442
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 1: What's your sign? May I'm a Taurus. You're a Taurus?

443
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 1: What about you, Marian? I'm a Capricorn? Okay, interesting, and

444
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: you're and what about your what about your Chinese zodiac

445
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: sign tiger, dragon slash rabbit. Oh it's your year this year.

446
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 1: It's my year. I've been saying that all Yeah, it

447
00:27:54,080 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: is my I'm a sheep, bad, I'm a dragon seventy six.

448
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:10,479
Speaker 1: Oh dragon is the best dragons or dragons like the

449
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: big zodiac of the whole calendar. Yeah, yeah, yes, you're

450
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: the tiger. It's your year, Hannah. It is so personality wise,

451
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 1: like how would you guys describe each other when you

452
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,360
Speaker 1: were kids, like what was the core issue? And then

453
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 1: you know, what did you need from each other that

454
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 1: you didn't really get? Well, I think that it wasn't

455
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: so much that we didn't we didn't get. It wasn't

456
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: something that we didn't get from each other. I think

457
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: it was this expectation that we would just do everything

458
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: together all the time for our parents. So I think

459
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: having a little more autonomy in this, in the sense

460
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 1: of like your own identity, would have been great, even

461
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: though we loved doing everything together. It's like having that

462
00:28:54,800 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: optionality makes a big difference, right. But I would describe

463
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: go ahead, man, And I was gonna say Hannah as

464
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: an older sibling, it's like usually the older sibling is

465
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: like the leader because all the expectations are on the

466
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: older sibling, and she had to forge her her way

467
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: versus you know. Hannah will tell you about this as well.

468
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 1: But like me, the younger sibling, she she she got

469
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: yelled at more like I. I the parents were much

470
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: more lenient on me. She wrote my coattails. Well, did

471
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 1: that happen to you, guys? I feel like with the

472
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: eldest sibling and I have a lot of friends. For

473
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: our oldest siblings, we ripe about this all the time

474
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 1: of like, with your first child, your parents are doing

475
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: everything by the book and they're making sure and they're

476
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: like very strict about everything. It's like by the time

477
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: the second child comes around, they're like, ah, they're not

478
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 1: gonna die. Fine, You're just like hello, yeah. But with

479
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: my kids, I have three kids, it is that way.

480
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: I mean the first one you don't know what the

481
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: hell you're doing, and you're like, Okay, I have to

482
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: do this, I have to do that. And then by

483
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: the third one is like, oh, she's fine, everything's good. Yeah, right,

484
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: like it's okay, she's crying in bed all night, Like

485
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: she'll put herself, she'll pass by herself. Did you guys

486
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 1: grow up in a strict household or how was just

487
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 1: the everyday life very strict? It was strict for me,

488
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: It wasn't strict for her. I think for me it

489
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: was strict. How is it strict? Like you weren't able

490
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: to go do things? Could you roam? Could you be yourself?

491
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: Could you be creative? Or was like this is how

492
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: you need to be? Well? Actually, no, I actually think

493
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 1: that our parents are pretty contemporary in terms of Asian

494
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 1: immigrant parents. You know, they're a lot more modern than

495
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: some of our other friends' parents. But for example, I

496
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 1: wasn't really allowed to go to junior prom, wasn't really

497
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: allowed to go to certain parties, which Marian was allowed

498
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:46,479
Speaker 1: to later, but you know that was for me. I

499
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: had to argue with my parents about everything. And I remember,

500
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: for example, after senior year prom, it was like, I

501
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: want to go to the city on a party bus

502
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: and where there's an after party in the city. And

503
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: it was a whole fight. And then when it was Mary,

504
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: it's turned to go to prompt. She went to the

505
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: city and then they rented a shorehouse on the beach,

506
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: and it's like, are you kidding me? Do you know

507
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: what they do? Yeah? But after all you're arguing were

508
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: you allowed to go on the party bus for senior

509
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: prom and did you get your way or not only

510
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 1: only senior year, but I didn't get my wife's sophomore

511
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: or junior year. Okay, but yeah, you had to argue

512
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: to go on the party bus, but your argument worked

513
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: and you got to go. Yeah, But then Marian, it

514
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: just didn't even matter, like call us Jersey shore. Yeah, yeah,

515
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: it was exactly like that, so funny, Well do you

516
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: give them ship about it? We're like, that's what do

517
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: you the how is this possible? Can you It's not

518
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: even worth arguing right about this point, like onward and upward,

519
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: But you know we still talk about that. I wonder too,

520
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: like growing up being so close in age, like, what

521
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 1: was it like with romantic relationships? Was there any Was

522
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 1: there ever any like crossover of I mean, not to

523
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: be presumptuous, I mean you know, yeah, yeah, of you

524
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: know what gender specific you like, but but like, was

525
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: there any crossover of No? Never? So one thing I

526
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: was going to say about Marian is like, even though

527
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 1: we used to butt heads, were very very loyal to

528
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: each other and we were never competitive with each other.

529
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: There was there was this audition we had for a

530
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: musical instructor who was like very hard to get into,

531
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: and the instructor only took Marion and not me because

532
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 1: she's like, you're older, you play another instrument, you play sports,

533
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: you don't have time to devote to another instrument. And

534
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: when she accepted Mary, I was like, congratulations, I'm so

535
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: happy you got in. She goes, well, she's not taking

536
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: me I'm not going to her either, and that was it.

537
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: So we It's amazing because, like, you know, we were

538
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: jokingly competitive, but we're not actually competitive with each other.

539
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: That's so nice. At what point did you guys really

540
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: come together and you now you're older and it's like, oh,

541
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: we're not butting heads and we're becoming best friends. You

542
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: guys seem like you're very close. Now, yeah we are,

543
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: We're really close. Now. It's after she went to college.

544
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: It was that's similar with Katie and I. Yeah, oh yeah,

545
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: this makes the heart grow fonder. Yeah yeah, so yeah,

546
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,959
Speaker 1: go ahead to ride a passage going to college, you know,

547
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 1: you get more mature. And then I'm home by myself

548
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, I have no one to hang

549
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: out with. So it's like all these facets, I'm like,

550
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: I miss her. I want her to come home. And

551
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 1: then would just make our mom make us lots and

552
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 1: lots of dump things when she would come home, or

553
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: should drive them to college? Now, where did you go

554
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: to college? I went to Georgetown? And where did you go? Marian?

555
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: I went to University of Maryland. Oh so kind of

556
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: not far. No, it was about forty five minutes. I

557
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: had so much fun going to visit partying with her friends.

558
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: Was this doctor the college stucker from high school to college. Okay,

559
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 1: so let's talk about how you guys went from JP

560
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: Morgan You were VP of j P Morgan, Mary and

561
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 1: you were an account executive at Birbery. What happened, Like

562
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: what was the spark when you guys got together and

563
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: were like, Okay, we're going we're going to do this.

564
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: What was the like what was that moment for you?

565
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: And we talked about a little bit, but yeah, it

566
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 1: was It was just an idea that we had been

567
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: kicking around and we thought we'd be fun to start

568
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: our own business. And we have always been really into food. Actually,

569
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,399
Speaker 1: when we first opened the restaurant, this guy that used

570
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: to do a lot of projects with in the underground

571
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 1: business schools, like, I remember when you said you were

572
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: going to open a restaurant by the time you were thirty,

573
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 1: and now you've done it, and I totally did not

574
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 1: remember ever saying that, So it was really nice to

575
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: get that message from him. So I think it was

576
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 1: something that we had always dreamed about and then we

577
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 1: talked about it for two years and you know, it

578
00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: was like, should he get off the pot. We can't

579
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 1: keep talking about this, so like, we either stop talking

580
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: about or we do something about it. So we decided

581
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: to do something about it. Were you guys food easy?

582
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: I mean, did you love love food in general? All cuisines?

583
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: You know, well, plan trips around meals, plan your day

584
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: around meals, Like, yeah, we'll be aggressive of that food. Yeah, yeah,

585
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: we'll travel to a destination for thirty six hours just

586
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: eat good food. But it's gotten to the point where

587
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: when I travel with Marine, she scares me because we

588
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 1: have to go to like thirty destinations to eat and

589
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't do that anymore. Yeah, I start

590
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,240
Speaker 1: treading it, which is terrible. But what was the creative

591
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 1: process of figuring out like what it was going to be,

592
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 1: and what was your dream and what part of that

593
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:50,720
Speaker 1: dream has come to fruition and what where was it different?

594
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 1: Where did it actually end up being different than what

595
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 1: you thought it would be. So it started off as

596
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 1: an idea of frozen dumplings because we thought, oh, we

597
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: can roll this out across the country and then a

598
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: lot more people can experience our mom's cooking. And one

599
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: of our friends made a good point of well, if

600
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: you don't have a restaurant or a brand, how wild

601
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 1: people know to come look for you. So my roommate

602
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: in college actually her grandfather helped start Raos, you know,

603
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:20,800
Speaker 1: the Italian restaurant. Yeah. Yeah, So so here's a little

604
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: like faith. So she her grandfather helped start the jarred

605
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 1: Sauce for Raos. And I was like, oh, we could

606
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: be like a Raos, or we have one location and

607
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 1: we develop a following and then we can do a

608
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 1: CpG line like what they did. And then we thought, okay,

609
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,959
Speaker 1: maybe we'll open up a food truck. And we talked

610
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 1: to our friend Luke, who also went to Georgetown, and

611
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 1: he started Luke's Lobster and I was talking to him

612
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 1: about it and we both were and he was like,

613
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 1: I wouldn't go with a truck for you know, a

614
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: numerous amount of reasons. So we thought, okay, we'll do

615
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: a brick and mortar space. And then another friend who

616
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 1: went to college with us started Sweekree. And I remember

617
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: at brunch in your city is like, I have this

618
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 1: crazy idea. Just hear me out on it. Listen to

619
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 1: the whole idea before you say anything. And I told

620
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: him I thought for sure he's gonna be like, you

621
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 1: have no idea what you're doing. You work in finance,

622
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: and instead he said, this is an amazing idea, and

623
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 1: you will love the idea of actually creating something with

624
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: your hands. You know, it's like something that you can

625
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: see that's very tangible. And so they were actually launching

626
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 1: the First Week Green in New York City. So he's like,

627
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 1: you guys have no experience. So Marian quit her job

628
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: and helps open the First Week Green and no matter. Okay, cool,

629
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: oh cool. And so then you got kind of like

630
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 1: a experience, yeah understanding, Yeah, exactly, hands on experience, the

631
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: shadow of the manager work the sad line. It was

632
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: such a rewarding experience and interacting with everyone, it was

633
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: just so amazing. What was one of the most shocking

634
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Speaker 1: things that you learned that you didn't understand, meaning like,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, I thought I had this down, but

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Speaker 1: now that I've worked for a minute with Sweet Green's,

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Speaker 1: holy shit. Well. One of it was volume. It was

638
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Speaker 1: their first location in New York and between their online

639
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: ordering and in store, they had such a flood of

640
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: people come in and consumers, which is so exciting for them.

641
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 1: But it was just figuring out how exactly to do

642
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: the workflow and operation. So I think that with all

643
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,800
Speaker 1: of it said, learning each aspect and just always asking

644
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: questions and being a sponge with it. What was the vision?

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00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 1: The vision was to have like obviously the frozen, but

646
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 1: then when you wanted to open your spot, like what

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00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 1: did that look and feel like to you? And is

648
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Speaker 1: it what you thought it was going to be? So

649
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: the look and feel to it, we wanted people to

650
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,280
Speaker 1: feel like they were being welcomed into our home because

651
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 1: this recipe it's so personal, it's our family's recipe. And

652
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 1: also there's nothing more personal right than food. You're actually

653
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 1: putting something that I'm making in to your body. So

654
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: we wanted the feeling to be complete three sixty of

655
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:10,439
Speaker 1: your coming into our home. So we decorated it like that.

656
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: We put on like music that we enjoy listening to,

657
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,399
Speaker 1: and it was it's incredible and still to be able

658
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: to walk into a restaurant and actually walk into your dream,

659
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: it's a really crazy good feeling. Yeah, I would think

660
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: that would just be so satisfying. Now, your mom, so

661
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: are these are are they all your mom's recipes? And

662
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 1: how did she feel about handing them over not good,

663
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: not good. It was her way of getting us home

664
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Speaker 1: from college and like still having like a special piece

665
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: for us. When she brought to us for work, it

666
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 1: was like her special touch. So she of course she

667
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 1: didn't use measurements. So when we're trying to open up

668
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: the first location and not knowing exactly what the measurements were,

669
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: we had to keep on fine tuning it. And it

670
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:02,280
Speaker 1: was from New York's be a a small apartment to a restaurant,

671
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: you know, scaling up the recipe, and that was the

672
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 1: whole learning experience as well. And so she came for

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00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: opening with our dad and at first they're like, Okay,

674
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Speaker 1: we're gonna help, you know, help with whatever you guys need,

675
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 1: and taste tests of the dumplings and we got the

676
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: stamp of approval from them, and then our dad. Yeah,

677
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: our dad also said it was the worst internship he's

678
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:28,360
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679
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,480
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680
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 1: against the wall of the restaurants. He was so tired

681
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 1: from like city biking to hold depot to get stuff.

682
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Speaker 1: And they ended up staying for weeks. And now every

683
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 1: time they come they book a return trip for like

684
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 1: four days, and they're like, we're only here for four days,

685
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Speaker 1: and they don't want to get stuck, Like a lot

686
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 1: of times they don't want to get stuck working. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

687
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 1: so funny. Right for our first location, after we were

688
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Speaker 1: finished with construction, we had no idea. We underestimated how

689
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: long it would take to that up after because we

690
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 1: had no idea what we were doing. So that's when, Yeah,

691
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: our dad was really like being hands on and like

692
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: going home depot every other hour to get things for

693
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: us and help set up. How do you scale up

694
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: those dumplings? You know what I mean? Like, how does

695
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: that work? He said, how do you like to know?

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Speaker 1: We can't share that with you? You have such a

697
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Speaker 1: specific Recipe's a great ideas well. I think for us

698
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,399
Speaker 1: it's still keeping a small batch production and being able

699
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700
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:45,440
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701
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:50,200
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702
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703
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:58,239
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707
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Speaker 1: one meal kit. Mom gave over the recipes their a hit. Now,

739
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Speaker 1: when did you realize that, like what you went out

740
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741
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742
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,320
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743
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: like we actually created something that like what we thought

744
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: was going to be people really love it. Well, it's

745
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: funny because the first day we opened, there was like

746
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: five hundred people and we kept selling out and it

747
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: was so like the energy was so chaotic because we

748
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 1: had no idea what we were doing. So we kept

749
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: closing down the restaurant, putting up a sign that said

750
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Speaker 1: we will reopen at the hour, just like restock all

751
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 1: the dumplings. And it's like we always talked about when

752
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 1: someone takes that first bite and they're like and they

753
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: do the head nod, and we're like, yes, you know,

754
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: that makes us really excited. Yeah, but I think it's

755
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 1: it's really the thing. The thing that's hard about opening

756
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 1: a restaurant is your experience has to be so consistent

757
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: day in and day out. So we're always just striving

758
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: for that. Yeah, and the day before opening, we were

759
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 1: in the New York Times and so that also contributed

760
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 1: to the flocks of people coming. So I felt super

761
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: grateful for that. And just like Hannah said, like guests

762
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 1: coming in and giving feedback and compliments, and the best

763
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: is when there's an NYU student who's like, Oh, this

764
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: reminds me of my mom's dumplings, and that just makes

765
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 1: us so so happy. So someone yesterday just wrote an

766
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 1: Instagram that they cried when they took a first bike

767
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: because they felt like it was their mom hugging them,

768
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: which was the nicest compliment everyone's ever written. But that

769
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:13,919
Speaker 1: is I mean family and food. I mean that is where,

770
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 1: that is what created this business for you, you you know,

771
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 1: I mean that and the importance of that. I mean,

772
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 1: do you guys talk about that? Is there sort of

773
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 1: any mission to inspire people to cook black truffle agnolotti

774
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 1: stuffed with red wine brais Italian accent coming out? Oh

775
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 1: but can we go back to you using Panco crumbs

776
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 1: in Italian cuisine. I've never seen that. He doesn't know

777
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: what he's talking I do, trust me, you got to

778
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: mix and match. Nothing is uniformed in my life. Pinko

779
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: bread crumbs and real Italian cooking. You can do Panco

780
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: an maybe maybe there is. I just know you make

781
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 1: your own breadcrumbs. Yeah no, but I put I put parsley,

782
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: I put some seasoning in them. But like, like, I

783
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 1: do what I want to do, and this is why

784
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: I'm unique. I love that, and we do that with

785
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: our monthly specials, like right now, are dumpling is a

786
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:13,280
Speaker 1: buffalo chicken dumpling. Oh maybe we should do a sibling special.

787
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 1: What were you dumpling? I would be I love I

788
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 1: would be a shrimpy. I love shrimp. And then I

789
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: can't even get over what I'm looking at. I know, Oliver,

790
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: But family and food, I mean, is there any I mean,

791
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 1: you know, do you feel is your thing just like

792
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: good food, good food, good food, that's just what it's about.

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Speaker 1: Or do you have anything where it's sort of like

794
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 1: I mean, for me, I know, it's really important to

795
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 1: talk about community and like I have vodka. I have

796
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: a vodka that I love and I do and a

797
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: big part of that is like how we celebrate with

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00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: people around us. Do you know, like it's actually a

799
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: really important thing to cook and celebrate and you know,

800
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 1: experience like making interesting on cocktails and having that connection

801
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:07,399
Speaker 1: for sure. And I think people in general, people who

802
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 1: go into hospitality, especially in places like New York, you

803
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 1: want to create a place where people can come gather

804
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: and they feel safe and welcome. And for us, that

805
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 1: starts with our team. Like we promote all of our

806
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: managers from within our team. Everyone who's a manager has

807
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 1: started out just as a general team member. So creating

808
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 1: that kind of community and opportunities for people to advance

809
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: is one of like my life's greatest joys. That's so

810
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 1: great and also the hardest part. What is it like

811
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:41,720
Speaker 1: working with each other? Do you guys find yourself fighting again?

812
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 1: Sometimes when you're it's the beginning. So in the beginning,

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Speaker 1: I feel like and I'm curious to hear what you

814
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 1: guys think. But you know, when you get together with

815
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,800
Speaker 1: your family, everyone kind of falls back into their family

816
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 1: role in dynamic, and that definitely it's so annoying, and

817
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 1: it's like we're adults now, like we're still vickerat. I

818
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 1: don't like that anymore. I walk away. I do so

819
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 1: many walk aways now I walk away. I can't deal

820
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 1: with it. I'm out. That's a boundary, yeas, like I'm

821
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 1: not delving into this dynamic. I've gotten to that point too. Yeah,

822
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: we were definitely like that when we first started, and

823
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 1: we had like a come to Jesus moment conversation where

824
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 1: we're like, we would never talk to each other if

825
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 1: this was a regular professional, corporate setting. So we have

826
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 1: to learn how to separate our sister relationship with our

827
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 1: professional relationship, and for the most part, it's been great.

828
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: Like we don't argue a lot because we also have

829
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 1: each other's best interests in mind. Like our interests and

830
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 1: our priorities are very much aligned. Yeah, the thing and

831
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,439
Speaker 1: the thing is we know each other inside and out,

832
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 1: and so it's like having that loyalty and always knowing

833
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: that we have each other's back. So like that's that's

834
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 1: the that's the foundation of it. How many brick and

835
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 1: mortars do you guys have? Three? Three? And where are they?

836
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Speaker 1: And then the East Village Nolita in the upper west Side.

837
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:13,839
Speaker 1: And then we also ship dumplings nationwide with gold Belly. Oh,

838
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 1: gold belly. Do that. Let's get some. Let's get some

839
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Speaker 1: gold Belly. I know, but it cannot like it's going

840
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: to be amazing. But in store, I mean you can't

841
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 1: beat that. You cannot beat it. I mean these the

842
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: dumplings you get on gold Beller are still handmade, and

843
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 1: it really comes down to how good you are at

844
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:36,800
Speaker 1: cooking them exactly. So I get frozen dumplings all the time.

845
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 1: My daughter loves them, and so does my middle son,

846
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:41,959
Speaker 1: A rider does too. But my but my little ones

847
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 1: love the dumplings, and so I'm always getting and trying

848
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 1: to find like the best frozen dumplings, but I want

849
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: to learn how to actually handmake them, so I might

850
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 1: have to come over. Yeah, I actually have. We teach. Yeah,

851
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 1: we teach dumpling making classes on Zoom with gold belly answer. Yeah. Yeah.

852
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 1: So we ship an entire d y kiss you that

853
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 1: has the filling premate with the skins and the sauce

854
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:13,280
Speaker 1: and scullion pancakes, and then it's a one hour class

855
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 1: and then you become a dumpling expert. Awesome. Oh fun. Okay,

856
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,839
Speaker 1: so did your parents? Did your mom get a piece

857
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 1: of this business? I mean, did you give her a steak?

858
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 1: She must have a point or two? Come on, yeah, okay,

859
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 1: she does for sure, Thank gosh. Mom is named after her. Yeah.

860
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 1: She also thought it was the worst name ever. Do

861
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 1: you know. Really? Her store name idea was yeah, excellent

862
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 1: dumpling House. I love that. Excellent. Oh my god, excellent

863
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 1: dumpling you need to make you need that needs to

864
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 1: be your slogan, change the excellent dumpling dumpling house, the

865
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 1: dumplings You're excellent. Yeah, that should be your T shirt,

866
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:06,959
Speaker 1: So excellent excellent dumpling House. I want to meet your mom.

867
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 1: That can happen to that. She sounds great. Now is

868
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 1: your dad an engineer? Did he end up doing things with? Yeah?

869
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: So he works at a bunch of different banks and

870
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 1: hedge funds, and he wrote, I'll go trading programs. Okay,

871
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 1: he got he got me through physics and yeah, he

872
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: got me like all the major courses. Perfect. Oh god,

873
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 1: I don't even know. It's just like that's like, that's

874
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 1: like literally Wilder isn't doing algebraight. Now, don't even come

875
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 1: to me. I have no idea. I barely know how

876
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 1: to add without my fingers. You're like that triangle. Oh

877
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 1: my god. When you have a disagreement, how do you

878
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 1: handle it? Do you bring someone in to be like

879
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,240
Speaker 1: the mediator or are you guys pretty good at handling

880
00:52:53,280 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 1: them yourself? Yeah, we handle it ourselves. Okay, Now, what

881
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 1: has it taught you about each other running a business together?

882
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:09,360
Speaker 1: We have different communication styles, and so you have to

883
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 1: communicate in the way that resonates with that person. Just

884
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 1: because you're saying something doesn't mean that. And this is good.

885
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 1: This goes for anybody, whether it's a team member or

886
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 1: each other. It's like everyone has different personalities and and

887
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 1: Inggrams and all that stuff, and it's like saying things

888
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: in a way that will resonate with that person, right,

889
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 1: they can actually be attend to what you're saying. So we,

890
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: along with our gms, we all took like an Intagram

891
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 1: test just so we could see what drives people, what

892
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 1: motivates people, how do you get through to people? And

893
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 1: that's been really helpful. But a quick question about get

894
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 1: starting a business together. Did you have a pre talk

895
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 1: like we're sisters, we're doing this. We're not going to

896
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,879
Speaker 1: let money, finances all this shit get in the way,

897
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 1: you know, was there a pre talk. No, I don't remember,

898
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 1: never worried about. We didn't like an official conversation like that.

899
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 1: I mean I went from making like no money in fashion,

900
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 1: so I was like, oh, anything's better than this, right right, Yeah,

901
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 1: you basically paid to work in fashion. Yeah, okay, so pandemic.

902
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the pandemic a little bit. You know,

903
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 1: when did you open? What year did you open? Twenty fourteen,

904
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:27,240
Speaker 1: so you probably had all the success pandemic happens. I know, personally,

905
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 1: I have a lot of friends in the restaurant industry,

906
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 1: restaurant bar industry, especially in New York. It was so

907
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 1: hard and sad for so many people. How was it

908
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:40,240
Speaker 1: for you, guys? Did you? Were you able to maintain

909
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 1: with so delivery? We were actually having a record year

910
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,800
Speaker 1: that year until the pandemic hit, and we actually felt

911
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 1: the pandemic hit much earlier than other restaurants because we're

912
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:57,760
Speaker 1: an Asian restaurant. You know. People started leaving really nasty comments,

913
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 1: like making up stuff that was definitely very racially motivated,

914
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 1: which was pretty disappointing because you know, racism terrible, and

915
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 1: also we were all going through this together, so it

916
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 1: felt like pretty targeted that they would come after us first.

917
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 1: And we actually thought about shutting down, and we surveyed

918
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 1: all of our team members and we asked them like,

919
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:21,320
Speaker 1: do you guys still want to work or do you

920
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 1: not feel safe to come to work anymore? And most

921
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,320
Speaker 1: people wanted to work. So we're like, all right, we

922
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 1: have to figure out a way to stay open. And

923
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 1: I would say that March and April and May of

924
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 1: twenty twenty were I have a ton of white hair

925
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 1: to show for it, A ton of white hair. Yeah.

926
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 1: Did you feel were you did you feel scared for

927
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 1: your you know life? I mean, did you have those

928
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: moments where you were like, this is actually dangerous for

929
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 1: us to be working. Well, we took every precaution to

930
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,839
Speaker 1: make sure it wasn't dangerous, Like we really tremmed down

931
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:03,839
Speaker 1: the team so that people were really far apart from

932
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 1: each other, and we had We were actually in Taiwan

933
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 1: a month before New York shutdown, and we saw the

934
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 1: precautions they were taking, and it just felt different when

935
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 1: we were there. So when we came back, we stopped up.

936
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:20,360
Speaker 1: We made sure we had plastic gloves and masks and

937
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 1: sanitizer and sanitizing spray because in Taiwan they were really

938
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 1: regulating and curtailing how much of that you could buy.

939
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:30,800
Speaker 1: So we were like, oh, we should get ahead of

940
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,879
Speaker 1: it in case we're not able to order this stuff,

941
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 1: because then we would be able to keep our team safe. Right.

942
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 1: And all the hate stuff was that just on just

943
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 1: comments on like Yelp and all of these sort of

944
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,800
Speaker 1: sites where yeh Google in person. I remember I was

945
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 1: walking to the Nolita store one morning at ten thirty

946
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: and this guy was like really accosted me from across

947
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:54,840
Speaker 1: the street and I started yelling back at him, and

948
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 1: then I realized he was kind of mentally unhinted, so

949
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 1: I just ran for it. But then from that point on,

950
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 1: we actually bought pepper sprays for our dumpling rappers. Who

951
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 1: are you know, they're a little older, their immigrants, they

952
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:08,840
Speaker 1: didn't really speak English that well and they were scared

953
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 1: to get on the subway. Wow, it was so terrible

954
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 1: crazy it is. It's still terrible. I I I wonder

955
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 1: in moments like that, like in your restaurant, do you

956
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 1: did you find with the pandemic with racially motivated aggression?

957
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 1: Like do you find that it brings you guys closer? Like?

958
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 1: Did it? Did it bring the team closer? Absolutely? Yeah.

959
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 1: We started doing community meals to be frontline workers, and

960
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 1: it just gave everyone a new sense of purpose, Like

961
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 1: they're like, we need to come into work, we need

962
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 1: to help the communities. And it really really brought everyone closer.

963
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 1: That's so great. What about growing up you know, just

964
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 1: just race in your life and growing up in your

965
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 1: parents and you know, is that something you experienced as

966
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 1: kids and did your parents prepare you for that? It's

967
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 1: not so much they prepared, but there's like distinct I guess,

968
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 1: like core memories that you kind of have as kids.

969
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 1: I feel like, at least for me growing up, I

970
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 1: didn't experience much racism unless we left where we grew up.

971
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 1: Because where we grew up, you know, all the same

972
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 1: people from kindergarten to you know, basically fifth grade, so

973
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 1: there's not a lot of new people. But for sure,

974
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 1: I remember one time we were at the supermarket and

975
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 1: my mom was talking to the cashier and the cashier

976
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 1: started making fun of her accent. And I was so

977
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 1: angry because, like, our mom speaks eight languages, and here's

978
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 1: this one woman making fun of the fact that her

979
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 1: English has an accent. And I asked my Mom's like,

980
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 1: are you angry that woman was making fun of you?

981
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 1: And she said no, the whole point of language is

982
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 1: for her to understand me. She understood me right, Like,

983
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 1: it wasn't perfect, but she understood me, So you got

984
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 1: to you still have to speak up, even if not perfect.

985
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 1: One distinct memory I had was our lunches for elementary school.

986
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 1: They were definitely different than other classmates, so I mean,

987
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 1: at least in the early years. Yeah, early years different,

988
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 1: but some bride Rice, some students would make comments of it,

989
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 1: but of course I was just you know, happily eating

990
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 1: my food but also wanted lunchables at the same time.

991
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 1: Right would I would have been as a little girl,

992
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 1: I would have been like, please, Mary, and can I

993
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 1: hud your lunch? No, everybody would make fun of it.

994
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 1: Oh really I remember, Yes, one time I brought in

995
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,959
Speaker 1: fried rice and they're like, ew, you got peas for lunch?

996
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 1: There are peas in your rights? Oh my god, I

997
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 1: give it. And I wanted to die. Yeah, I wanted

998
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 1: to die. I guess it's also like, well, I guess

999
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 1: maybe New York is different than than West Coast, you know,

1000
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 1: like for me, Yeah, like for us, there's more Asian

1001
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 1: people in the West, there are more Asian people in

1002
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 1: the West Coast. Yeah, I would. I mean, I don't know.

1003
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 1: I actually don't know what that statistic is, but it

1004
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 1: feels like it. I mean, right, we're closer, were much

1005
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 1: closer where major major immigration happened during during Rush. That's right.

1006
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so maybe that's true. We have like a

1007
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 1: much stronger connection to to and all all Asian foods.

1008
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 1: I'm actually in the process right now with our daughter

1009
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 1: who because my partner's half Japanese, so Ronnie like we're

1010
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 1: I want her to have more culture because she doesn't.

1011
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 1: Danny didn't really grow up with it, you know. It's

1012
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 1: like he, well, you grew up with your grandma and

1013
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 1: your grandfather. Her food was on another level. But I

1014
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 1: won't give anything for Alice's recipes, and they don't and

1015
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 1: your mom doesn't have them, does she? They're somewhere Yeah,

1016
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 1: she had them, or she won't share them. There's somewhere there.

1017
01:00:56,000 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 1: I think they're hidden. Yeah. Well no she wrote down. Yeah,

1018
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 1: but she wrote down a bunch of recipes. Yeah. Oh

1019
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 1: that's such a good idea. We've been trying to do

1020
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 1: that too. Yeah, and will write them down. Yeah, she

1021
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 1: won't write them down. Well, then how are you getting

1022
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 1: the recipe right? I mean you're just taking guesses or

1023
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 1: your mom goes in there and does it. She gives

1024
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:22,920
Speaker 1: us the ingredients and then she comes in and she

1025
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 1: taste tests it and tweaks it. Yeah, so cute, mommy,

1026
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 1: Oh my god, maybe we should have a family zoom.

1027
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 1: But how coveted recipes are? Yeah, I mean just generally

1028
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 1: across cuisine, like old school, handed down recipes. That's why

1029
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 1: when I look at some people's like uh uh, Like

1030
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 1: I remember when I got the Magnolia Bakery cook you know, cookbook,

1031
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 1: and I went to go do the butter cream. I'm like, no,

1032
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 1: they're lying, Yeah, this is not all the time. We

1033
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 1: have this conversation all the time. When restaurants publish their restaurants,

1034
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 1: they're leaving out very specific things. Of course, because like

1035
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 1: I can follow a recipe right, and this is not

1036
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 1: remotely the same dish I've had in a restaurant. It's

1037
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 1: they always leave something out, Otherwise why would you come

1038
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 1: to the restaurant. I have this thing where I try

1039
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 1: to get salad dressings because I think salad dressings are

1040
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 1: really hard to like there's certain salad dressings I love

1041
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 1: so much, and to try to like recreate them is

1042
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 1: actually really hard. What's your favorite salad dressing? I mean,

1043
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 1: it sounds really stupid, but it's my favorite is La Scala.

1044
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 1: La Lascala has a salad dressing that is literally like

1045
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 1: my favorite salad dressing. It's basically it's like it's like

1046
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 1: oil and vinegar. I know, but it's it's it's there

1047
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 1: is something I've tried so hard to figure out what

1048
01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 1: it is. It's got to be the sugar component. And

1049
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 1: by the way, consistency is amazing, meaning meaning every one

1050
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 1: you have tastes exactly the same. It's insane. We're going

1051
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 1: to need it. Comes to Laska and do some due diligence. Yeah,

1052
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 1: we got to go into La Food Tours next time.

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Speaker 1: By the way, what what do you guys? What's your

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Speaker 1: favorite cuisine? I know you probably love them all, but like,

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Speaker 1: do you have everything? Okay? I think top three are Taiwanese, Italian,

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Speaker 1: and then it's a toss up between Thai and Japanese.

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Speaker 1: Oh agree, I think I'm with you. Yeah, really, I

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01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 1: think it's Italian, you know, because I just love it.

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Speaker 1: It's just the best. I mean yeah, Panco crumbs and all. Yeah,

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01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 1: try Panco dumplings. See what happens you guys, oliver Panco

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Speaker 1: dumpling delivered. Oh my god, We'll stick to the shrimp.

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Speaker 1: But so I Italian, and then I'm with you. It's

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Speaker 1: always tie in Japanese. It's like, yeah, Thai love it's

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Speaker 1: too much for me really, yeah, when it gets real

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Speaker 1: real hot. Addicted to the soup, that's my favorite. Oh

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Speaker 1: that's one of our memories from my kid. We were

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Speaker 1: in Thailand and we had the spicy Tommy soup we've

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Speaker 1: ever had. And it was so spicy that I like,

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Speaker 1: I said a spoonful to Marian to kind of like,

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Speaker 1: you know, torture her. And it was so hot that

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Speaker 1: she's so good, I need more. And it was like this, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: when are you going to open a dump store in

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Speaker 1: La Soon? You are? And hopefully, well, we want to

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Speaker 1: open a few more locations in New York before we

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Speaker 1: start exploring other cities. Fine, I had, I had the

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Speaker 1: money for you and everything. I was ready to back

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Speaker 1: the whole operation. Oh yeah, okay, guys, let's do our

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Speaker 1: speed round. Okay, well, let's let's let's do this one

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Speaker 1: last question. So what are we What are you looking

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Speaker 1: forward to now? Oh? So many things. I'm looking forward

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Speaker 1: to continue to develop our team and expand our locations.

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Speaker 1: Great higging back on that, growing our frozen dumpling business. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: oh okay. One word to describe each other. Fierce okay,

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Speaker 1: So Marian, oh say your name before? Oh okay, so

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01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 1: I would describe I would described Hannah as fearce, I

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01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 1: would describe Marian as easy, gone cute. I could have

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Speaker 1: told you, guys that by this spending this hour with you. Okay.

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Speaker 1: One word to describe your business relationship familial Marian, and

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01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying loyal. Who's boss here? I already know the

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Speaker 1: answer to this. I'm so offended. I know, I know

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01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 1: you okay here, but I'm also older. Who's the most

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01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:20,800
Speaker 1: creative cook? M I think Marion is, And who's the

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01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 1: most reliable cook? Reliable? Hard on? Yeah, both of us

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01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 1: actually expanding on that creative cook, Like, how do you

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01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 1: come up with some of your concepts? Is it both?

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01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 1: Is it just you guys saying oh, let's do this. Yeah,

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01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:38,760
Speaker 1: it's between that what we enjoy eating and like you're saying, like,

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Speaker 1: it's about community. So the hospitality industry is like working

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Speaker 1: with their friends and like restaurants you enjoy Yeah, right, Travel,

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Speaker 1: yeah a big Who's who is the more adventurous Marion? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean if you're the one who leads you to

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Speaker 1: like thirty different places when you're going on a food trip. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: What is something recently that has brought you too closer together?

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Speaker 1: M I would say a lot of therapy, individual therapy

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01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 1: mm hmm, oh good. Becoming way more self aware? Yeah.

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Speaker 1: That Also on a more casual note, we both got

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01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 1: pandemic puppies so that's been really fun. Oh cute. Okay,

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01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 1: your what is your favorite thing your mom makes? If

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Speaker 1: you had a desert island thing to take with you

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Speaker 1: that your mom cooks, what would it be besides dumplings?

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Speaker 1: Of course? Yeah, okay, I think I would pick. Can

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Speaker 1: I pick two things? Sure? It's a desert island okay.

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Speaker 1: So one of them is a steam thaie fish, which

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Speaker 1: has a lot of cilantro and herbs and fish sauce

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01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:58,680
Speaker 1: and lime on it in bird eyed chili pepper, so

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01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:01,680
Speaker 1: it's like spicy and sour. And then she makes this

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01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 1: really good noodle soup that's a bone broth with tomato

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01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 1: eggs and sauteed meat with lettuce and cilantro, And yeah,

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Speaker 1: I gotta get, I gotta go. That sounds like I want.

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Speaker 1: I can mom make that and send it through gold belly? Geez?

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Speaker 1: That sounds so good? Yeah, what about you, Marion? I

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Speaker 1: was going to go. If I had to pick one thing,

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Speaker 1: it would be the second noodle soup that Hannah brought up. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I need that reside. Will she hand that over? For sure? Not? Oh? Okay,

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Speaker 1: So first celebrity crush. Oh my gosh, this is so yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is so embarrassing. First, okay, so this is back

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Speaker 1: in the day of like Backstreet Boys. My first celebrity

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Speaker 1: question was Aaron Carter Wow nick younger brother. Yeah, mine

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Speaker 1: was Joey McIntyre. Oh, thank you. Okay, mine was Devin Sowa.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's a throwback. He was hot back in

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Speaker 1: the day. He really was. You want to ask the

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Speaker 1: last ques Y, So last question we asked to every

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Speaker 1: sibling on this show two part question. If they're something

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Speaker 1: that you would love to emulate from your sister, something

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Speaker 1: that they have that would make your life a little

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Speaker 1: bit better. And on the flip side of that, what

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Speaker 1: is something you would like to alleviate from your sister,

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01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:41,519
Speaker 1: something you would take away that would make their life,

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01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:46,120
Speaker 1: make their life a little bit easy, easier, better, moves

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01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 1: more smoothly. Oh, this is a really good question. Do

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Speaker 1: people start crying when they answer? Sometimes? Yeah, I could

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Speaker 1: see it. I could imagine that maybe you go first,

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Speaker 1: She's like, I'm going to cry, you go. I am

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01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:02,720
Speaker 1: the crier of the family, but I will I will

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Speaker 1: not cry. So one thing I would take away from

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Speaker 1: Hannah or that I admire really is her confidence and

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01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:16,920
Speaker 1: boldness in whatever she does and what would you alleviate

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Speaker 1: from her? Ali, that would sort of you think would

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01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:26,840
Speaker 1: sort of give her some you know, peace. Yeah. Well,

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01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:33,719
Speaker 1: I think that her her sense of protection of making

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01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:36,920
Speaker 1: sure I'm okay or like stressing about if something's going

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01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 1: to go wrong. I think that that would help alleviate

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01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:47,000
Speaker 1: some stress. Yeah, which is like from a lifetime of

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Speaker 1: our parents being like you got to watch out for

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Speaker 1: your sister. You gotta take care her sister, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: People an older sibling younger sibling dynamic. So with Marian,

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Speaker 1: I think what I would emulate is her just like

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01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:03,960
Speaker 1: her positive, care free outlook. You know, the world is

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Speaker 1: her oyster. That's how I summarize it and the way

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Speaker 1: I describe it issues God's favorite all the time, which

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01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:14,200
Speaker 1: is an amazing way to approach life. Right, And I

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Speaker 1: think to take away I don't know, yeah, your God's favorite,

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Speaker 1: not moms, but God. I don't think there's anything that

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Speaker 1: Mary needs to be taken away, like anything that has

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01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:36,280
Speaker 1: to be taken away. Oh wow wow Yeah, so you're

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Speaker 1: so you feel that she's really balanced and well, Marin,

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Speaker 1: what would you take away from yourself? And you were like,

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Speaker 1: I wish I could just take this like this and

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Speaker 1: throw it away in the garbage. Hmmm, such deep reflection.

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Speaker 1: She's like, nothing, I'm perfect. Yeah, she's like, I'm perfect.

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Speaker 1: I don't hear that. I think. I think sometimes, like

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Speaker 1: you know, the whole easy going situation. It's like looking

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01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:05,600
Speaker 1: out and thinking deeper into like making sure that you

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01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:08,840
Speaker 1: have all the necessary resources, or like have an emergency

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01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:10,640
Speaker 1: bag in your car, you know, like thinking of all

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01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:13,080
Speaker 1: these things ahead times like not everything's going to be

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Speaker 1: positive and great. I think prepare. Yeah, you're right, you're perfect.

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Speaker 1: It's like, why prepare? Who needs an emergency bag when

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01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:25,960
Speaker 1: there's never going to be an emergency? Have an emergency bag,

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Speaker 1: you guys. Thank you so much for spending the time

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Speaker 1: talking to us. Thank you so much. Cannot wait to

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Speaker 1: eat your food. Cannot wait. Sibling Revelry is executive produced

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Speaker 1: by Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson. Producer is Alison, President,

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Speaker 1: editor is Josh Wendish. Music by Mark Hudson aka Uncle Mike.

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