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Speaker 1: Welcome in as Verdict with Center Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson

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Speaker 1: with you and Senator You're in Washington, d C. With

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Speaker 1: a very special guest on a very important piece of legislation.

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Speaker 1: This is one of those shows that there is an

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Speaker 1: extremely important piece of legislation, UH that you are working

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Speaker 1: on in Washington, d C. And there are countless people

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Speaker 1: that listen to show that may know victims. And this

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Speaker 2: Well, that's exactly right.

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Speaker 3: And this is a special show because we're talking today

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Speaker 3: about child sexual abuse and it is an epidemic across

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Speaker 3: this country. So many children are the victims of sexual abuse.

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Speaker 3: And we're going to talk about legislation that I introduce

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Speaker 3: today in the Senate UH to empower the victims of

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Speaker 3: a chance to hear about her journey and tragically her

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Speaker 3: brother's journey as a victim of sexual abuse.

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Speaker 1: important shows where you don't know whose life you're gonna

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Speaker 1: be able to help and affect in a positive, way

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Speaker 1: whose life literally could be saved because of this show

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Speaker 1: and the information that they're going to. Hear and this

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Speaker 1: legislation center that you introduced today In, washington D. C is.

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Speaker 1: Incredible and your guest who's with you IN dc as,

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Speaker 1: well it's amazing the story that she is, telling but

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Speaker 1: also just how powerful it is to stand up for

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Speaker 1: so many others that need.

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Speaker 2: Help, well that's.

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Speaker 3: Right this WEEK i introduced legislation in The senate Called Trey's,

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Speaker 3: law and it is designed to protect, kids kids who

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Speaker 3: tragically are the victims of sexual. Assault And Trey's law

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Speaker 3: prohibits non disclosure agreements binding children who have been victims

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Speaker 3: of sexual. Assault and this is a problem we are seeing,

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Speaker 3: nationwide a staggering. STATISTIC a child In america is sexually

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Speaker 3: abused every nine. Minutes, yeah one in four girls In

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Speaker 3: america will be sexually abused before she turns. Eighteen one

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Speaker 3: in six boys In america will be sexually abused before

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Speaker 3: he turns. Eighteen and we have been seeing over and

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Speaker 3: over again when they're violators are held, accountable when they're,

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Speaker 3: prosecuted and when there is civil litigation that it is

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Speaker 3: becoming a routine for the violators to insist upon a

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Speaker 3: non disclosure, agreement a non disclosure agreement that binds the

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Speaker 3: children and forces them to be. Silent And Trey's law

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Speaker 3: is named for A, Texan Trey, carlock who horrifically was

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Speaker 3: abused at a summer camp In, missouri abused over a

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Speaker 3: number of, years and his abuser was prosecuted as at

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Speaker 3: abuser is serving three consecutive life terms in. Prison and

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Speaker 3: in the course of civil, Litigation trey was convinced to

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Speaker 3: sign a non disclosure agreement and that secret haunted him

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Speaker 3: so much so that at twenty eight years, old he

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Speaker 3: took his own. Life and that is a tragedy in

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Speaker 3: his life and his family's, life but it's a tragedy.

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Speaker 3: Nationally and we have a guest on the podcast tonight

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Speaker 3: who's another text In Elizabeth. Phillips elizabeth Is trey's, sister

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Speaker 3: and she has taken the grief and agony of losing

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Speaker 3: her brother and of knowing what happened to. Him losing her.

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Speaker 3: Brother it's one thing to lose a sibling in a car,

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Speaker 3: accident my sister died of a drug. Overdose it is

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Speaker 3: always difficult to lose a family member that you, love

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Speaker 3: but it is particularly gut, wrenching, yeah to lose a

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Speaker 3: family member who you know was the victim of abuse

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Speaker 3: and was haunted by. That AND i will tell, You,

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Speaker 3: elizabeth she lives In dallas and she has devoted thousands

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Speaker 3: of hours to fighting for trades. Law Tray's law has

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Speaker 3: been adopted number of, states Including. Texas texas has adopted

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Speaker 3: Trades law and at the state.

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Speaker 2: Level but, today with a group of.

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Speaker 3: Seven bipartisan co, Sponsors i've introduced at the federal level

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Speaker 3: and we're going to get passed at the federal.

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Speaker 2: Level BUT i want to Start. Elizabeth we welcome To.

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Speaker 2: Verdic we're glad to have.

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Speaker 5: You thank you so much for not just the introduction

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Speaker 5: of Trades law TO Us congress this, morning but for

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Speaker 5: offering this platform as. Well AND i, AGREE i hope

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Speaker 5: it goes. Viral every parent needs to understand how this system,

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Speaker 5: works BECAUSE i think there are a lot of assumptions

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Speaker 5: that if your child is sexually, abused whether it be

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Speaker 5: at a summer camp which was Trade, story or a

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Speaker 5: school or a faith based setting or sports, setting they're

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Speaker 5: going to come forward, immediately but there's something called delayed.

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Speaker 5: Disclosure children that are victimized in this way don't come

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Speaker 5: forward oftentimes for, decades if ever at, all and we

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Speaker 5: need to be sure that we are protecting children and

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Speaker 5: their voices so that when they do come, forward survivors are, heard,

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Speaker 5: believed and that we can respond with action to hold

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Speaker 5: the bad actors. Accountable, yeah so thank you for the. Conversation,

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Speaker 5: well thank you for being. Here let me ask, you

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Speaker 5: could you just tell your brother's, story to just just

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Speaker 5: share with our listeners and, viewers tell folks who your

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Speaker 5: brother was and what happened to. Him, yeah and thank

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Speaker 5: you for going into some of that in your, introduction

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Speaker 5: because it's honestly the hardest part for me to talk.

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Speaker 5: ABOUT i can go over to stats and data about

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Speaker 5: child sexual abuse and ways to prevent it all day,

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Speaker 5: long but it's really hard for me to talk About.

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Speaker 5: Trey AND i didn't know that you also lost a,

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Speaker 5: Sibling So i'm sorry for your loss And i'm sorry

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Speaker 5: we can relate on.

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Speaker 3: That that's not not a club anyone wants.

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Speaker 2: To be a member.

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Speaker 5: Exactly BUT i think also we understand that you can

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Speaker 5: can grieve it and move, on or you can grieve

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Speaker 5: it and turn that pain into. Purpose AND i think

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Speaker 5: what we saw at the press conference this morning was

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Speaker 5: for the first time because her voice was protected Under

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Speaker 5: Trey's law since that was passed and put into effect

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Speaker 5: In missouri Last.

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Speaker 6: August and so that's what we're wanting to expand.

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Speaker 5: Nationally this journey for me began because my brother died

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Speaker 5: by suicide when he was twenty, eight not only due

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Speaker 5: to the child sexual abuse on what we now believe

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Speaker 5: to be trafficking at the hand Of cannicut camps based

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Speaker 5: in Southwest. Missouri they had international mission. Trips they were

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Speaker 5: moving kids across state. Lines it was never fully. Investigated

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Speaker 5: the criminal case landed In Taney, County, missouri in The sheriff's,

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Speaker 5: department and at the time of my brother's perpetrator, sentencing

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Speaker 5: there were fifty seven known. Victims but we now have

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Speaker 5: had many victims come forward SINCE i started a website

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Speaker 5: Called facts Of kinnocut dot com with other survivor families

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Speaker 5: to get the facts out there to parents and warn

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Speaker 5: the public that this is much more widespread than what

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Speaker 5: unusual in a lot of these situations because OF. NDAs

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Speaker 5: so that's what we're addressing With Trey's law that's now

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Speaker 5: been introduced To, congress very. Bipartisan you, said you, know

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Speaker 5: no one you've brought this to has said no to.

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Speaker 5: IT i mean it's something everyone should get behind and

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Speaker 5: hopefully can get. Behind you, know In trey's, story he

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Speaker 5: was groomed and then abused by a camp. Director so

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Speaker 5: seven to seventeen this was going.

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Speaker 2: On and so he was seven when he started going

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Speaker 2: to the, camp when he.

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Speaker 5: Started going to the, camp and that's when the grooming

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Speaker 5: began and then the sexual abuse. Began and then his,

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Speaker 5: perpetrator who like you, said is now in prison for

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Speaker 5: three life, terms confessed to his crimes and was sentenced

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Speaker 5: in twenty, ten but under the civil statute limitations In,

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Speaker 5: Texas trade was forced to file his civil lawsuit by

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Speaker 5: the twenty Three and just, imagine you, know go back

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Speaker 5: to when you were twenty, three were you ready to

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Speaker 5: go up against a system and quote unquote ministry Like

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Speaker 5: cannoncock that has between thirty five and forty five million

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Speaker 5: in annual. REVENUE i, mean at twenty, three you're still a.

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Speaker 5: Kid we call them college, kids, Right you're just trying

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Speaker 5: Life and if someone puts a settlement agreement in front

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Speaker 5: this can all go, away and you can have restitution

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Speaker 5: and some you, know some money for your, healing for

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Speaker 5: therapy or before lost, income you're.

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Speaker 6: Probably going to do.

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Speaker 4: It and for closure.

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Speaker 6: And for healing, enclosure thank.

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Speaker 1: You AND i say that BECAUSE i have friends that

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Speaker 1: worked At cannicock during the time period you're talking. ABOUT

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Speaker 1: i also know people that were abused At cannacock and

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Speaker 1: this story WHEN i saw we were doing, it and

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Speaker 1: it's It's i've lost friends who've committed suicide because of sexual.

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Speaker 1: Abuse But cannicok is a place WHERE i went To,

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Speaker 1: Ole MISS a lot of PEOPLE i grew up with From,

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Speaker 1: memphis From, houston they went To. Cannacock and the cover

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Speaker 1: of the most sad parts about all this is there.

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Speaker 4: Was so many of these NDAs.

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Speaker 1: CENTER i didn't realize, it like how much this was

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Speaker 1: going to just bring up in. Me but when you

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Speaker 1: know people that were abused there and you've set with

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Speaker 1: them and you hear how the system did not protect,

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Speaker 1: them BUT i actually think made them a victim a

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Speaker 1: second time over by the way that they use these,

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Speaker 1: NDAs it is infuriating because you realize, that like everything

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Speaker 5: And that's what came in The texas. HEARINGS i was

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Speaker 5: calling this institutional abuse on top of child sexual. Abuse

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Speaker 5: so you're exactly. Right and, Yes memphis is a huge

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Speaker 5: market FOR canniccuk And kids Of Your america which is

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Speaker 5: another ministry and outside Of branson That Joe white still

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Speaker 5: runs this, day there's been no change in. Leadership no

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Speaker 5: one's been held accountable because of these. Crimes and so

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Speaker 5: you were asking about my story and how we got

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Speaker 5: to this, point and really it was BECAUSE i learned

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Speaker 5: more about my brother's trauma and his death THAN i

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Speaker 5: knew in his life because of THE.

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Speaker 6: Nda so Until treyslaw went.

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Speaker 5: Into effect In Texas september of twenty twenty, FIVE i

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Speaker 5: never saw what he. Signed he wouldn't talk about. It

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Speaker 5: kannicuk would come after him if he mentioned all of

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Speaker 5: Abuse what we now know is hundreds of more. Victims

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Speaker 5: asked for three. Things admit to known, failures release IN,

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Speaker 5: The Taney County Sheriff's department missed a few. Spots we

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Speaker 5: ninety perpetrators with allegations against them affiliated With cannoncuk and

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Speaker 6: World ninety over, Ninety so the, ninety.

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Speaker 4: How many have been held.

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Speaker 1: Accountable i've got to know that number because AS i

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Speaker 5: Children, yes so we're calling it out, again Doing cannoncuck's

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Speaker 5: Done so we've done that job for. Them so facts

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Speaker 5: about cannicuck dot. Com we have a known abusers page

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Speaker 5: where we name thirteen and might even be more now

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Speaker 5: that have convictions that are, yeah they have criminal, indictments

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Speaker 5: The rest of the perpetrators in our database are just

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Speaker 6: Have never been held. Accountable we know who they.

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Speaker 5: Are we've turned that database over to the authorities and

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Speaker 5: agreement that involved a RESTRICTIVE. Nda and he was an

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Speaker 6: Suffered but he had exactly and you know that.

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Speaker 5: Therapist after his, DEATH i started doing my own investigation

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Speaker 5: Veracity but in this, case there's been a misuse of,

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Speaker 5: ndias which originally were created to protect intellectual property like

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Speaker 1: And it's just a bar or even feel like they

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Speaker 4: It in, fact they're so.

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Speaker 1: Afraid talking to one person that was a victim of,

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Speaker 1: this they described it to me this. Way they, Said

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Speaker 5: civil statute of limitations to sue an institution that's liable

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Speaker 5: This he confessed allegedly In march two thousand and nine

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Speaker 3: Well one of the things you talked about at the

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Speaker 3: exchange for. Compensation and the way our legal system works

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Speaker 3: the real values of trades.

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Speaker 2: Law it is that.

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Speaker 3: When this passes AND i didn't, say IF i said

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Speaker 3: passes that incentive will go. Away, look if you're negotiating a,

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Speaker 3: SETTLEMENT i used an example. Earlier, today there aren't settlement

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Speaker 3: agreements that, say as a condition of the, settlement you

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Speaker 3: have to deal crack, cocaine because dealing crack cocaine is,

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Speaker 3: for their lawyers to pressure them to do this will go. Away,

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Speaker 3: told that's your right as. Well we're not going to

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Speaker 3: force a victim to tell his story or her story

436
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 3: against their.

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Speaker 1: Will that you're protecting the victim in the way you're writing,

438
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Speaker 1: this WHICH i think is such an important part of this.

439
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,719
Speaker 1: CONVERSATION i want people to understand that it's a lot

440
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Speaker 1: of what we talked about with we want to protect.

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Speaker 1: Victims for, example when we're exposing everything With Epstein, foules

442
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 1: it's the same mentality. Here if you don't want your

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Speaker 1: name out, there we want to protect.

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Speaker 3: It.

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Speaker 5: Right that's the heart Of Trey's law is giving survivors

446
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 5: ownership of their own, stories, yes so that they can

447
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 5: decide what they want told about what happened to. Them

448
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 5: the trauma alone is enough. Abuse we don't need to

449
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 5: pile that. On and you bring up a good, Point,

450
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:46,400
Speaker 5: senator around the incentives and the incidentive's being misaligned because

451
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 5: this type of case falls under personal injury. Law and

452
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,120
Speaker 5: so you've been to law school and in that area

453
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 5: of the, law it's typically your attorneys who are taking

454
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 5: auto accident pieces or slip and.

455
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 6: Falls child sexual abuse is a, fear it's in.

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Speaker 5: IT i like that it's a personal injury claim because

457
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 5: it is an injury to the, brain to the, soul

458
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 5: and so it should be a personal injury. Claim but

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Speaker 5: the way personal injury lull works is that you are

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Speaker 5: looking to, settle keep this from. GOING i, mean over

461
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 5: ninety six percent of CASES i think subtle outside of

462
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 5: trial when it comes to personal. Injury and so you,

463
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 5: know the victim doesn't want to have to go to

464
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 5: trial and put themselves through more. Trauma they are incentivized to.

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00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,719
Speaker 5: Settle and a lawyer, says this can all be behind

466
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Speaker 5: you if you sign on the dotted, line and then

467
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 5: they can take forty, percent which is the typical commission

468
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Speaker 5: on a case like, this move on to the next

469
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Speaker 5: once and, repeat and that doesn't work when we're talking

470
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Speaker 5: about childhood sexual.

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Speaker 3: Abuse, well and THE Us Supreme court has Described they've,

472
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Speaker 3: said other than, murder rape is the most grievous harm

473
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Speaker 3: that could be inflicted to a. Person And i've spent

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Speaker 3: a lot of my career against child's sexual. Abuse so

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Speaker 3: WHEN i was The Solicitor general Of, TEXAS.

476
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Speaker 2: I argued in front of THE. U.

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Speaker 3: S Supreme court Defending louisiana's law that provided for capital,

478
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 3: punishment the death penalty for the most egregious child. Rapist,

479
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 3: unfortunately The Supreme court five to four struck that, down

480
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 3: so we did not prevail in that. Case texas's law

481
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 3: was also struck. Down When louisiana's law was struck, DOWN

482
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 3: i also Defended texas has A Texas Sexually Violent Predator

483
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 3: Civil commitment law that gives the courts the ability to

484
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,880
Speaker 3: take a sexually violent predator and put them in civil,

485
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 3: commitment take them off the streets to protect. People and

486
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 3: a state court of appeals had struck that law down

487
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 3: and concluded it was, unconstitutional AND i argued the case

488
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 3: in front of The Texas Supreme court defending that, law

489
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 3: and we won. Unanimously the law was reinstated and it's

490
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,719
Speaker 3: now a tool that you have to go after sexual.

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Speaker 3: Predators and you know we met. Before so this, bill

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Speaker 3: my lead co sponsor Is Kirsten, Gellibrand democrat From New.

493
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,880
Speaker 3: York and then we have on this bill as, well

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Speaker 3: we Have Katie Britt republican From alabama's a dear. Friend

495
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 3: we Have Eric, Schmidt republican From, missouri another very good.

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00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 3: Friend and then we also Have Amy, Klobachar democrat From.

497
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:24,120
Speaker 3: Minnesota we Have Peter, Welch democrat From, vermont and Then Jeane,

498
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,719
Speaker 3: shaheen A democrat From New. Hampshire AND i think we

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Speaker 3: will get very widespread bipartisan. Support to be, honest those

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Speaker 3: six are the only SIX i. ASKED i started with,

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Speaker 3: Them i've worked all of. Them i've worked with on previous.

502
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Speaker 3: Legislation But i'll tell You jelibrand AND i started working

503
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 3: on this issue more than a decade ago because she

504
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 3: was a leader in going after sexual assault in the,

505
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 3: military and there's been a real problem with sexual assault

506
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 3: in the, military and the way it used to work

507
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 3: is the decision about whether to prosecute a rapist was

508
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 3: made by the commander and the commander frequently knew the,

509
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 3: violator often was close to the, violator and victims of

510
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 3: sexual assault in the military were afraid to report the

511
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 3: rapes because they didn't believe the commander would be. Fair

512
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 3: they believed the commander would be biased in favor of the.

513
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 3: Violator and so jelibranon this is back twenty, thirteen WHEN

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00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 3: i was a brand new baby senator had just been.

515
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 3: Elected kirsten was leading the charge, saying this doesn't make any,

516
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 3: sense and the decision of whether to prosecute should not

517
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 3: be made by the commanding, officer but rather should be

518
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 3: made by a career military, prosecutor so in the, military

519
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 3: but not in the chain of, command so not connected

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00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 3: to the alleged. Violator AND i will tell you The

521
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 3: pentagon fought tooth and. Nail they hated that. Provision AND

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00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 3: i was on the ste En At Armed Services committee

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00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 3: With kirsten at the, time AND i heard her make the,

524
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 3: argument make the argument passionately for changing the prosecution prosecuting

525
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 3: decision to a career. Prosecutor and it was one of

526
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 3: those instances where sometimes you say, hearings don't you know

527
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 3: our our kind of? Performance they don't necessarily change anyone's. Mind,

528
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 3: WELL i listened to her arguments AND i was, persuaded

529
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 3: AND i went up to her AND i, Said, KIRSTEN

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00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 3: i want to team up with you and let's get this.

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Speaker 2: Done and we.

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Speaker 3: Did it took nearly a decade to get it done

533
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 3: because The Barack obama wouldn't do. It by the Way

534
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 3: obama was, president he could have done it, unilaterally and

535
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Speaker 3: he wouldn't do.

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Speaker 2: It.

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Speaker 3: Uh and it Took we ultimately got the legislation, passed

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Speaker 3: but it was it was a decade long. Battle this

539
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Speaker 3: is One i'm confident will be. FASTER i don't think

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00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 3: this will take a decade to make. Happen you, know

541
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Speaker 3: you mentioned at the press conference also that we had

542
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 3: another victim of sexual abuse share her. Story her name

543
00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 3: Is Jaden, harris AND i want to play what she

544
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 3: said at the at the press conference because this was this.

545
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 2: Was really powerful and and.

546
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 3: Moving she was she was sharing about about the sexual

547
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 3: violence she experienced and and give a, listen give a.

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Speaker 2: Watch good.

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Speaker 7: Morning, FIRST i want to thank these co sponsors for

550
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 7: their leadership and in Filing trey's law at the federal.

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00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 7: Level my name Is Jaden, harris nineteen years, old And

552
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 7: i'm here today not just as a child sexual abuse

553
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 7: survivor From, Branson, missouri but as someone whose voice was

554
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 7: protected By Drey's. Law it's why you can be here.

555
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 7: Today WHEN i came forward about the ABUSE i, EXPERIENCED

556
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 7: i was prepared for it to be. Difficult WHAT i

557
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 7: wasn't prepared for was the intimidation not only for my

558
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 7: abuser but for my own for my own lawyer to

559
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 7: sign a non disclosure agreement in exchange for restitution during

560
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 7: a mediation. PROCESS i was alone when it came to

561
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,959
Speaker 7: fighting for my. Voice it was both my abuser and

562
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:14,239
Speaker 7: my lawyer that tried to require me to sign AN,

563
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 7: nda a contract to a clause that would have restricted

564
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 7: my ability to speak about the details of what happened

565
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 7: to me for the rest of my. Life imagine being

566
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 7: told you can never tell your own. Truth despite the

567
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 7: bowling for my attorney and all those involved in the,

568
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 7: case in my, HEART i KNEW i had to stand for,

569
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 7: truth not just for, myself but for others who feel

570
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 7: they had been. Silenced i'm standing here today with my

571
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 7: voice Because trey's law protected it as a matter of public,

572
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 7: policy AND i was able to achieve settlement while preserving

573
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 7: my ability to speak out and hope of protecting. Others

574
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 7: due to learning About Trey's law And, MISSOURI i knew something.

575
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 7: IMPORTANT i cannot be legally forced into. Silence no agreement

576
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 7: could take away my right to speak about my own

577
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 7: experience and those responsible for the. Abuse that legal right changed.

578
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 7: Everything it shifted the balance and. Power it meant that

579
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 7: any resolution would not come at the cost of me

580
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 7: owning my, story not only as having a voice essential

581
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 7: to my healing, journey but is also HOW i can warn.

582
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 7: Others my abuser is still out in public every. Day

583
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 7: he goes by the Name. Raisa he is a well

584
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 7: known entertainer In branson who still has a magic, show

585
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 7: And i'm concerned about ongoing. Victimization the criminal justice system

586
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 7: has done nothing to remove him from being around. Children

587
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 7: So i'm going to do. Something i'm speaking out, today

588
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 7: And i'm advocating the law that protected me to protect

589
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 7: victims every. Where federal action On Trey's law is. CRITICAL

590
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 7: a survivor's freedom of speech should not depend on. GEOGRAPHY

591
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 7: i am fortunate That Trey's law had passed In missouri

592
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,399
Speaker 7: and allowed me to keep my voice but SOMEONE'S zip

593
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 7: code should not determine whether they can tell the truth

594
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 7: and warn the public about. Predators this needs to be.

595
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 7: National trey's law is straightforward but. Powerful it makes non

596
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 7: disclosure agreements in cases of child sexual abuse void and.

597
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 7: Unenforceable it ensures that secrecy cannot be purchased when a

598
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 7: child has been. Harmed it affirms that survivors can be,

599
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:45,240
Speaker 7: seen heard and, believed and that's in the best interest

600
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 7: of public. Safety what almost happened to me citing away

601
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 7: my voice should never be an option in this. COUNTRY

602
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 7: i am grateful to be part of today's important milestone

603
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 7: and making that happen in setting truth for, You thank, You.

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00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,280
Speaker 4: Santaer you're watching. That it's.

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Speaker 1: Painful it also is incredible to see someone like that

606
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: get their voice because of this law and how that

607
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 1: was enacted in her. State and that's exactly what you

608
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: are trying to do. Nationwide and it's WHY i say

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00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: this for everyone, watching please share. This there may be

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00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 1: somebody that needs to know the website with a connection With.

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Speaker 1: Cannonicut there may be someone else that needs to know

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00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: this because they're in AN. Nba this is why we

613
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: do this show And it's one of those episodes THAT

614
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 1: i hope you'll put it everywhere on social.

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00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 3: Media, well and, look there's something really powerful about a

616
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 3: survivor taking ownership of their own, story of their own

617
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 3: abuse and sharing their. Story it can be, healing it

618
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:01,720
Speaker 3: can be. Empowering look when When jaden told her, story

619
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 3: there was not a dry eye in the, ROOM i

620
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 3: mean it was you just heard, it and for those

621
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 3: of you watching, online you saw. It and this is

622
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 3: a nineteen year old young woman who was bearing her.

623
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 3: Soul and there's something powerful a for the survivor to

624
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 3: move past the pain and. Grief but it's also powerful

625
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 3: because for every survivor that tells her story or his,

626
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 3: story there are dozens or hundreds or even thousands of

627
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 3: other victims who never told. Anybody and one of the

628
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:44,919
Speaker 3: horrific things about this crime in, Particular, listen if you're

629
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,720
Speaker 3: walking home at night and you get mugged and beaten,

630
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 3: up you're not typically embarrassed or ashamed to ADMIT i

631
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 3: got mugged and beaten.

632
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 2: Up someone stole my.

633
00:36:53,480 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 3: Wallet sexual, assault and particularly sexual assault for, Kids, uh

634
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 3: the the, guilt the self, loathing the fear that the

635
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 3: precise the.

636
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 2: Shame.

637
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 3: Uh so many victims are trapped in silence and never

638
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 3: report their.

639
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:18,720
Speaker 2: Crimes.

640
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 3: Uh and and so there is a power not just

641
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 3: for the, survivor but but for everyone else who's been a,

642
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 3: victim who has not been able two to own their.

643
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 3: Truth and you, KNOW i don't like language like. That

644
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 3: own their truth sounds a little new agy for. Me

645
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 3: it's not the WAY i normally see.

646
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 6: Right but survivors hold the truth.

647
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 2: And here it is. Right.

648
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 3: IT i don't think someone has their truth on whether

649
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 3: two plus two is four. Right but but your life

650
00:37:54,680 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 3: and your, experience no one should take, away particularly from a,

651
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 3: child the ability to tell your. Story and it's And

652
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 3: i'll tell you, Look Trey's law would not have been

653
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 3: a law In, Missouri, elizabeth without your, leadership it would

654
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 3: not have been a law In. Texas it would not

655
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 3: have been a. LAW i, mean you have devoted a

656
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 3: lot of time to fighting for this.

657
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 2: Nationwide.

658
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,919
Speaker 5: Yeah AND i hope to get back to my day job.

659
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 5: Eventually i'm a mother of. Three i've got other things to.

660
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 5: Do this is not SOMETHING i want to. Carry it's

661
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 5: always encouraging when legislators like yourself step up and say

662
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 5: we're going to champion this on behalf of survivors so

663
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 5: That trey's outcome doesn't happen. Again AND i just want

664
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 5: to comment On jaden and what she did today because

665
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 5: that was. Heroic it will inspire others to come, forward

666
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 5: and as she stated in her, testimony she just doesn't

667
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 5: want other people to continue to be victim her. Abuser

668
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 5: today was the first time she named her. Abuser, wow.

669
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 6: AND i am so.

670
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 3: HONORED i didn't realize that when she said, THAT i

671
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 3: assumed she had said it. PREVIOUSLY i did not realize

672
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 3: she had.

673
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 5: Not that's when a press conference becomes, holy sacred space

674
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 5: because she was sharing the truth about a predator who's

675
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 5: still out. There AND i am amazed by her courage

676
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 5: because she achieved settlement last year and asked if she

677
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 5: wanted this. Opportunity it was healing for, her as hard

678
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 5: as it was to be able to stand on. Truth

679
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 5: and that's one of our slogans with the Treys wal

680
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 5: campaign is every voice of truth, matters BECAUSE i agree with,

681
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 5: YOU i don't like this language Around they are. Truth

682
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 5: there is absolute. Truth And jaden stood on that today

683
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,280
Speaker 5: in her, remarks and we got to stand beside her

684
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 5: and that was so, powerful and like you, said not

685
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 5: a dry eye in the, room because if you're not

686
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 5: personally affected by child sexual, abuse you sure know someone

687
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 5: Who waymen is or will come forward eventually about.

688
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 2: That the numbers are.

689
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 5: Staggering, yeah and we have studied. This only one in

690
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 5: seven victims will ever come. Forward and the deadly disclosure

691
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 5: ISSUE i was bringing up, earlier especially with male, victims

692
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 5: they often don't disclose until between the age of fifty and,

693
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 5: seventy and so it's important parents understand that because AGAIN

694
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 5: i think they think if someone experiences, this that child's

695
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 5: going to come home and tell mom and dad. Immediately

696
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 5: but to your, point it's not like you, know an

697
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 5: injury you would endure on the streets or in some

698
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 5: sort of other. Accident this does have an element of,

699
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 5: shame and What jaden did today is she put the shame.

700
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 5: Backward it belongs on the person who as it was

701
00:40:58,760 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 5: never her.

702
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 3: Fault and let me say to anyone listening to, this

703
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 3: if you've been a, victim it's not your. Fault and

704
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 3: that's one of the lies these abusers try to convince

705
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 3: children that it is your fault that you invited, this

706
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 3: that the blame is with, you and that is a

707
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 3: total and complete.

708
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,320
Speaker 5: Lie, Yeah and that's what grooming does and what grooming

709
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:23,720
Speaker 5: is is it creates. Secrecy if you ever tell, Anyone

710
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 5: i'm going to hurt your loved, one or if you

711
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 5: ever tell, anyone it's going to ruin. Everything that is

712
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 5: a grooming tactic to keep the victim quiet and they

713
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 5: often don't come out of that brainwashing for, many many.

714
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 5: Years so that's why research shows all of this around

715
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 5: it late.

716
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 6: Disclosure.

717
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 5: Jaden she was able to move from victimization to survivor

718
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 5: and now survivor advocate in a matter of, months and

719
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 5: that's what we got to witness today thanks to you

720
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 5: Introducing Trey's law federally along With Senator jilligren and other co.

721
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 5: Sponsors AND i Thought Senator britt had some really poignant

722
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 5: remarks as.

723
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 4: Well she was.

724
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 5: Fantastic, oh and it is very clear that the group

725
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 5: you mentioned, earlier the ones you've asked so, far they

726
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 5: are behind. Survivors they want to protect survivors' voices and

727
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 5: that's What Trey's law will. Do and it does need

728
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 5: to be national because going state by state creates an

729
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 5: imbalance protects the people in, power the predators and the

730
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 5: institutions that harbor these predators over a child having ownership

731
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 5: of their. Story and that's the core of our mission.

732
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 5: Here and thank you for taking time out of not

733
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 5: a slow news day to make this a priority to

734
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 5: hear from people Like jaden and others.

735
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 3: Who spoke this is important to happen and to go

736
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 3: to the really corrosive power of. Shame last year and

737
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 3: we talked about this earlier, today a law THAT i

738
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 3: authored and we passed into law was To Take It Down.

739
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 3: Act And Take It Down act makes it a crime

740
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 3: to post non consensual intimate, imagery either real, pictures and

741
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 3: you see so called revenge porn of explicit photographs or

742
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 3: videos that a couple breaks up and one, Decides, Okay

743
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 3: i'm going to hurt my former lover and publish and

744
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 3: no one has the right to make that public and

745
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,439
Speaker 3: to do that to someone. Else but we've also seen

746
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 3: WITH ai the rise of deep, fakes and this problem

747
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 3: has increased more than three thousand percent in the last,

748
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 3: year and more than ninety percent of the victims or

749
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 3: either women or teenage. Girls and when we were pushing

750
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 3: to pass it and building the coalition to pass.

751
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 2: It one of the things we.

752
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 3: Did The First lady became very actively involved in this,

753
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 3: legislation AND i appreciated. SHE i hosted The First lady

754
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 3: On Capitol hill and she was at a roundtable where

755
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 3: she met with a number of the. Victims and to

756
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 3: give you a, sense there was one person who testified

757
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 3: who is a state legislator In South carolina whose son

758
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 3: had received it was, online and he was a, teenager

759
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 3: and he thought he was talking with a cute teenage.

760
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 3: Girl and the supposed cute teenage girl was flirting with,

761
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 3: him and teenage boys everyone can make foolish, decisions but

762
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 3: teenage boys in. Particular this cute girl convinced him to

763
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 3: take revealing in naked pictures of himself and to send those.

764
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 3: Pictures it turned out that the cute girl was not

765
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 3: a cute, girl but rather was a, predator a, predator

766
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:47,320
Speaker 3: a foreign predator who then began blackmailing him and, Saying

767
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 3: i'm going to take this picture that you just. Took

768
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 3: you just took a naked picture of yourself and send

769
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 3: it to. Me i'm going to send this picture to your.

770
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 3: Family i'm going to send it to your Parents i'm

771
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 3: going to send it to your. Friends i'm going to

772
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 3: send it to everyone unless you give me money. Sextortion and,

773
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 3: tragically this teenage boy took his. Life the entire exchange

774
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 3: from the first interaction to when he took his own

775
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 3: life was ninety.

776
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 2: Minutes and his father shared that.

777
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 3: Story but that's the power of shame of this teenager

778
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 3: who had taken a picture of thinking he was, flirting

779
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 3: and then the terror of IF i get exposed for,

780
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 3: that which look compared to being a victim of sexual,

781
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 3: assault taking a picture of yourself is not nearly as,

782
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 3: severe and yet that shame was so powerful that that

783
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 3: teenage boy took his own. LIFE i, mean this is

784
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:50,280
Speaker 3: the pressures on our. Kids they're, enormous and they face

785
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 3: things that technology amplifies all of.

786
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 6: This, yeah it's really an. Epidemic.

787
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 2: Yeah and.

788
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 6: As a mom of, THREE i know you have two.

789
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 5: Girls the threats are different than they were in our

790
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 5: childhoods and.

791
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 6: Very, different very.

792
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 3: Different we were playing one in three one three kids

793
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 3: will be propositioned sexually.

794
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:13,359
Speaker 2: Online, yeah one.

795
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 5: Three and so, again thank you for championing The Take

796
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 5: It Down act and your co sponsors and the survivors

797
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 5: and sadly the families victimized in that. Situation The National

798
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 5: center On Missy next With Your children just put out

799
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 5: a very powerful video on that issue in. Particular and

800
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:31,720
Speaker 5: WHEN i was the board chair of an anti trafficking,

801
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 5: organization THE fbi put out their notice on sex. Stortion

802
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 5: we had something come through a case around girls being

803
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:42,919
Speaker 5: trafficked On. Venmo so it sometimes often these apps parents

804
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 5: aren't even thinking, about but roadblocks especially, Atrocious so many

805
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 5: examples of abuse happening on, discord and then what they

806
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 5: do is they take it. Live so in my brother's,

807
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 5: story it was an institution that covered up. Abuse now

808
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 5: these tech companies covering up abuse and the bad actors

809
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:08,879
Speaker 5: are a step ahead of, us and the legislation can't

810
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 5: continue to be. Reactive WHAT i Think trey's law does

811
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 5: is it removes that barrier because the shame is already

812
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 5: inherent in the crime, itself and it removes that barrier

813
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 5: so that victims come forward, Quicker we can catch the

814
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 5: bad guys, faster and the truth comes to light a

815
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 5: lot sooner than when the power and balance is in

816
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 5: such a way that, lawyers even plaintiffs attorneys as we've

817
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 5: discussed or others are keeping that victim from speaking. Out

818
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 5: so NDA's are one. Barrier but the shame is real

819
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 5: and the gap in parntal education is, real and that's

820
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 5: why conversations like this really.

821
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:52,399
Speaker 2: Matter, Well, elizabeth thank you for taking your. PAIN i

822
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 2: know you missed your.

823
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 3: BROTHER i know you feel the pain every, day but

824
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 3: thank you for taking that and Saying i'm not just

825
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 3: going to. Degrieve i'm not just going to. Weep i'm

826
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 3: going to use the pain to make a difference and

827
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 3: help others because your courage. Matters it has already changed

828
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 3: the law in a number of states across the, country

829
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,879
Speaker 3: and it's going to change the law. Nationally and your

830
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 3: leadership is why this is. Happening and SO i just

831
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 3: want to say thank.

832
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 6: You it's a sacred.

833
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 4: Honor final QUESTION i want to bring up real quick.

834
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 1: One will you give the website one more time for

835
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: people that may have been affected At cannicock with the

836
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 1: place where your brother, was and to senator so this

837
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 1: doesn't drag on for a decade to get it. Passed

838
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: what can vertict listeners do to help advocate for? This

839
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 1: and no matter who their senator.

840
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 5: Is so the whistleblower website on Cannon cook Is facts

841
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 5: About cannoncock dot. Com and then our website For Trey's

842
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 5: law Is tradeslaw dot. Org there's a community page for

843
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,760
Speaker 5: survivors who want to tell their story in a safe

844
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 5: way until we get this ledge past and they don't

845
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 5: feel safe coming out fully in their. Identity we had

846
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 5: a survivor testify In missouri just a couple of weeks,

847
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 5: ago and he, said for twenty five, Years i've been

848
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 5: A John doe and Today i'm coming forward in my

849
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 5: full name because of trays passing In. Texas that's the

850
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 5: power Of Trey's law In. Texas and you, know we

851
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 5: heard About missouri today at the press conference and just

852
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:21,240
Speaker 5: Replay jaden's.

853
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 6: Remarks so this needs to be.

854
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 5: National the other way to support this effort is through

855
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 5: The No More Victims alliance and that website is In

856
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:34,320
Speaker 5: mvalliance dot. Org and we have a lot of advocates

857
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 5: and allies who want to help support. This And Senator

858
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 5: i'm curious your thoughts as far as what are the

859
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 5: most effective calls to action for people that want to jump.

860
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:47,240
Speaker 3: In so let me say one. Thing the press, conference

861
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 3: we had probably about fifty people who.

862
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:51,919
Speaker 6: Came it was, packed.

863
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 3: Many of whom were themselves victims or they were the

864
00:49:55,200 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 3: families of. Victims and the, emotions the tea years in the.

865
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:04,320
Speaker 3: Room it WAS i actually think that THE tv cameras

866
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,839
Speaker 3: did not pick up on the folks that were, there

867
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 3: that were supporting what we were. Doing but it was really. Powerful,

868
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 3: look what can you? Do one THING i would encourage

869
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,359
Speaker 3: you to. Do share this, Podcast send this podcast to your,

870
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 3: friends send them the YouTube, link send them the audio.

871
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 3: Link encourage people to learn about trades, law and then

872
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 3: pick up the phone and make a phone. Call call your,

873
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 3: senator call your house, member and urge them past trades.

874
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 3: Law look those phone. Calls people wonder do those phone calls?

875
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 3: Matter do they make a? Difference And i'll tell you they.

876
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 3: DO i get a report every, day AND i think

877
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 3: this is true for most members Of. CONGRESS i get

878
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 3: a report of how many calls we got and what

879
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 3: the topics, were what the people were. Urging and you,

880
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 3: notice if there's a surge on a, topic it makes

881
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 3: a difference and it focuses the. Mind so speaking, out

882
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:04,919
Speaker 3: urging your elected representatives to support this. Law as we've

883
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 3: got broad bipartisan, Support we're going to get this done

884
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,240
Speaker 3: and also speak, out you, know speak out on social,

885
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 3: media put up a post On, facebook put up a

886
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,800
Speaker 3: post on x or or True social Or instagram or

887
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 3: whatever whatever platform you. Use but but speak, out uh

888
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 3: and advocate it because the more people hear about, THIS

889
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 3: i think it is basic common.

890
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 2: Sense there is no reason a.

891
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 3: Child lacks the emotional maturity to make a decision to

892
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 3: bind themselves by AN. Nda and And trade's law is

893
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 3: going to, say we're not going to allow children to

894
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 3: be taken advantage of first when they're, abused but they're

895
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 3: they're taking advantage of a second time when when they

896
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 3: are pressured into signing AN nda and muzzled for the

897
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 3: rest of their. Life and and, look we can't necessarily

898
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 3: stop every instance of abuse of kids in the first,

899
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 3: instance so though obviously we want, to but every predator

900
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 3: we take off the street stops that predator for victimizing another,

901
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 3: child another. Victim but we can stop the second. Victimization

902
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 3: we can say we are not going to, allow as

903
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 3: a matter of, law for children who have experienced this

904
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 3: violence to be. Silenced and that's what we're trying to.

905
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,720
Speaker 3: Do And, elizabeth that's what your leadership is producing.

906
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 5: Well and that's why we call this a public safety.

907
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 5: Bill and you, know nothing will bring my brother. Back

908
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:37,240
Speaker 5: and thank you for acknowledging, that like this is happening

909
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:41,839
Speaker 5: out of, heartbreak AND i see it as you, know

910
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 5: grief can be love and. Action So i'm taking action

911
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 5: because of what my brother's life and death has taught.

912
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 5: Me so bigger, picture you, know encourage people to not

913
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 5: let these hardened lessons die in.

914
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 6: Vain we won't let this be in.

915
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 5: Vain and thank you for taking action with, Me with

916
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:04,360
Speaker 5: all the survivors in the room, today who flew in

917
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 5: from across the. Country they've been advocating In georgia And

918
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 5: alabama And missouri And, texas and they showed up in

919
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 5: that room and it was, yes full of, tears but

920
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 5: also full of.

921
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 6: Hope.

922
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,839
Speaker 5: Yes and there's some other bills right now that it needs,

923
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:21,359
Speaker 5: support like The Renewed Hope act and The Defiance, act

924
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,320
Speaker 5: which is a compliment to The Take It Down. Act

925
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 5: and so This congress can achieve a lot to protect.

926
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 5: Victims and if people do call their elected, legislators then

927
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 5: we can get this. Done AND i love hearing you

928
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 5: say that over and over that it's not an if

929
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 5: it's a, win, yes and you know with this kind

930
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 5: of thing there's never a. Win it is a lose

931
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 5: lose in my family's. Case but, we like you, said

932
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 5: we can prevent this from. Happening we can catch it

933
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 5: sooner and this era can.

934
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Speaker 4: End, amen don't.

935
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Speaker 1: Forget we do this show three days a, Week, Monday

936
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 1: wednesday And. FRIDAY i ask you if if you get

937
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 1: to see, this please share the video YouTube video On

938
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 1: facebook as. Well you can share it on x and

939
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 1: share this. Podcast you can hit that little forward button

940
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 1: and share it wherever you are on social. Media hopefully

941
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: you can help others and victims come forward and understand

942
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 1: what's happening with the laws and how they're.

943
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 4: Changing, also be an.

944
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 1: Advocate talk to your senator and call their offices and

945
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 1: let them know about this.

946
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 4: Law they may not know what's going on with.

947
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,319
Speaker 1: It let them know why you're in favor of, it

948
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 1: why they should get behind it so it doesn't take

949
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 1: ten years to get this pass and The senat AND

950
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 1: i will see you back here in a couple of

951
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Speaker 1: days