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Speaker 1: Welcome to Haunted Road, a production of I Heart Radio

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Speaker 1: and Grim and Mild from Aaron Minky listener discretion is advised.

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Speaker 1: Years ago, after a long day of work, I had

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Speaker 1: settled into my hotel room. I was desperate for a

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Speaker 1: good night's sleep, as I was exhausted and completely jet lagged,

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Speaker 1: and knew I had to get back to work earlier

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Speaker 1: the next day. I turned out the bedside lamp and

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Speaker 1: click and the large light fixture and fan above me

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Speaker 1: turned on. Knowing this was an old hotel, I assumed

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Speaker 1: electrical issues, so I got up and turned the light off,

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Speaker 1: but was slightly weirded out that it was in the

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Speaker 1: on position when I did so. Settling back into bed,

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Speaker 1: I heard the click again and was again blinded by

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Speaker 1: the light above. Even from my bed, I could see

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Speaker 1: temper my frustration and obvious fear, but my need for

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Speaker 1: sleep was great. I kid you not. This song and

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Speaker 1: dance went on at least three more times, until at

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Speaker 1: one point the light flicked on, and laying in bed,

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Speaker 1: almost in tears, I said, please stop. I have so

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Speaker 1: much work to do tomorrow and I just need to sleep.

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Speaker 1: And then I heard a familiar click, but this time

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Speaker 1: the light turned off. This was one of the first

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Speaker 1: of many, many, many experiences I would have at the

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Speaker 1: Mount Washington Hotel in Bretton Woods, New Hampshire. So let's

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Speaker 1: take a little trip, shall we. I'm Amy Brunei and

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Speaker 1: this is Haunted Road. The Mount Washington Hotel in Bretton Woods,

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Speaker 1: New Hampshire stands as one of the last Grand Victorian

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Speaker 1: hotels still operating in America. So named for their quiet

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Speaker 1: grand appearance in Spanish Revival architectural style, they were all

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Speaker 1: built in the early nineteen hundreds. These hotels, like the

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Speaker 1: Hotel del Coronado in San Diego and the Stanley Hotel

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Speaker 1: in Estes Park, Colorado, and of course our Mount Washington Hotel,

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Speaker 1: are all large, elaborate structures, stark white with bright red roofs.

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Speaker 1: The Mount Washington has over two hundred rooms in the

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Speaker 1: original hotel and is massive. I can attest to this

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Speaker 1: because as you pull into the Mount Washington driveway. After

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Speaker 1: having seen nearly nothing but dense woods and mountains for miles,

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Speaker 1: this gem of a Shining hotel greets you like a beacon,

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Speaker 1: which she's been for me ever since I set foot

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Speaker 1: inside almost fifteen years ago. So some fun facts for

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Speaker 1: you know. The Shining was not based on the Mount Washington,

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Speaker 1: nor was it filmed there, but the Grand Floridian Resort

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Speaker 1: that's way cooler. So while researching for this podcast, I

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Speaker 1: was surprised to learn that the Mount Washington was not

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Speaker 1: the first structure on this property before the landing question

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Speaker 1: was solely owned by Joseph Stickney, who we will talk

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Speaker 1: about in a moment. A lumberman named John T. G

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Speaker 1: Levitt built a simple, almost box like structure with only

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Speaker 1: forty rooms on the property called the Mount Pleasant House

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Speaker 1: in eighteen seventy five. There was also a sawmill and

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Speaker 1: adjacent housing called stove Pipe City thanks to the number

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Speaker 1: of stove pipes extending from the small log buildings. In

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Speaker 1: eighteen eighty one, Joseph Stickney and Oscar Pittman purchased the

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Speaker 1: hotel from John Levitt right away, the partners enlarged it

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Speaker 1: by adding a fourth story. Now, according to an eighteen

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Speaker 1: There was the loghouse, the homes tavern, another stable near

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Speaker 1: one can only speculate about what went on at that establishment.

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Speaker 1: Before we die further, let's learn a bit about Joseph Stickney.

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Speaker 1: Joseph was born on May thirty one, eight forty, and

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Speaker 1: as Vermont's Setford Academy, before entering into various businesses from

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Speaker 1: railroading to coal mining and handling and real estate. Not

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Speaker 1: was worth an estimated ten million dollars. That's the equivalent

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Speaker 1: throw around. After about twenty years succeeding as proprietor of

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Speaker 1: According to Mount Washington director and historian Craig clemmer Our.

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Speaker 1: Mr Stickney got bolder in those decades. He married a

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Speaker 1: thereby eliminating a recurring water shortage. There was a bowling alley,

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Speaker 1: a very devoted ear to all ideas about how to

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Speaker 1: was then called Mount Stickney. In A bridle path two

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Speaker 1: The Mount Washington Hotel lies in a valley of the

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Speaker 1: as of a June report. The structure was designed by

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Speaker 1: Charles Allen Gifford, known for designing resort hotels. Joseph Stickney

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Speaker 1: between nineteen hundred and nineteen o two. Joseph Stickney shelled

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Speaker 1: During construction, Stickney spared no expense in building the imposing hotel.

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Speaker 1: The latest design and construction methods were used. Innovative and

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Speaker 1: complicated heating and plumbing systems were installed. To this day,

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Speaker 1: in post office. Stickney brought in two hundred fifty Italian

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Speaker 1: artisans to build it, particularly the granite and stucco masonry.

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Speaker 1: The general style is based on Spanish Renaissance Revival, with

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Speaker 1: The foundation is made of cut granite corried on the property.

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Speaker 1: Some of the novel features included an auto road at

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Speaker 1: a time when automobiles were rare, electric lights, a pool,

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Speaker 1: extensive veranda. Nine hundred three ft long and the longest

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Speaker 1: with a good book and a glass of chardonnay. When

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Speaker 1: At that moment, Joseph Stickney stood before the crowd and proclaimed,

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Speaker 1: York Times read on December second three, Joseph Stickney, of

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Speaker 1: the firm of Stickney, Conningham and Company, died suddenly at

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Speaker 1: He was born at Conquered New Hampshire in eighteen forty,

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Speaker 1: After Joseph's death, hotels continued to be one of Caroline's focuses.

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Speaker 1: She remained fully involved in the hotels, spending summers at

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Speaker 1: everything was cleaner, fresher, and cooler. They wanted them away

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Speaker 1: The pastimes here were utter turn of the century horseback riding,

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Speaker 1: and they'd have meals in a restaurant three times a day,

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Speaker 1: When it opened, Mount Washington was the largest spa in

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Speaker 1: It's guests enjoyed a service ratio of two to one,

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Speaker 1: facilities on ten thousand acres. Guests paid twenty dollars a day,

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Speaker 1: the generally lengthy days. Mount Washington raked it in twenty

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Speaker 1: In numbered. Among its famous guests were Winston Churchill, Thomas Edison,

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Speaker 1: On the patio level, there's now a bar called the Cave,

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Speaker 1: which is one of my favorite spots to visit on

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Speaker 1: housekeeper knocked, there was no response from within. So the

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00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 1: housekeeper opened the door but found that it wasn't unoccupied.

431
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: There was a little girl sleeping on the bed. They

432
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 1: went into the hall and spoke with the supervisor sighting

433
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,119
Speaker 1: the little girl as the reason why the room couldn't

434
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 1: be cleaned. The housekeeper was then asked to leave a

435
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,160
Speaker 1: note in the room to let the guests know they'd

436
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 1: be back in an hour to try again. When the

437
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 1: housekeeper went back in the room to leave the note

438
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,400
Speaker 1: by the table, they looked at the bed and instead

439
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 1: of a little girl, there was a woman staring right

440
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 1: at them with the most scary smile on her face.

441
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 1: She had black hair and was wearing a white dress.

442
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 1: The very startled housekeeper left the room to grab a friend,

443
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 1: and when they returned, room three fourteen was empty. The

444
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,400
Speaker 1: day before this incident occurred, the housekeeper had taken pictures

445
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,199
Speaker 1: of herself on the bed, and they wondered if perhaps

446
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 1: Caroline had taken offense. In a blog post for Red

447
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 1: Oak Press, yet another person detailed becoming a believer after

448
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 1: experiencing strange events in room three four During the first night,

449
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,439
Speaker 1: the author was woken up around one am by a

450
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 1: scratching sound on the window sill near the sitting area.

451
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,679
Speaker 1: They wondered if it might be windy outside, but before

452
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 1: they could get up to look, they heard one loud

453
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 1: clank on the pipe near the window. They claim that

454
00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: no heat was turned on at this time, and that

455
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 1: they heard no indication of wind outside beyond the scratching sound.

456
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 1: On their second night, they went to bed around midnight,

457
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: and here's the author's account of what happened next. At

458
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 1: two am, the metal cover on the ice bucket in

459
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: the room fell off the empty bucket and fell to

460
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 1: the floor with a clang. I sat straight up in bed.

461
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,239
Speaker 1: I could smell a flowery perfume in the air around me.

462
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,919
Speaker 1: I could not budge from the bed. I do not

463
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 1: wear perfume, So where was this smell coming from? And

464
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 1: why would the lid just come off the ice bucket.

465
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 1: I now was convinced that there was a ghost in

466
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 1: the room. The next morning, we told our waitress about

467
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 1: what we had experienced. She just nodded with a knowing smile.

468
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 1: Less frequently cited, the ballroom has been a host to activity,

469
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 1: specifically that of disembodied mysteriously sourced music, and I will

470
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: say that is actually the site of my very first

471
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: experience at the hotel, which I will talk about later.

472
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 1: A staff member had an eerie experience in the room

473
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: on a night when no performances were scheduled they entered

474
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 1: the ballroom late night and to their surprise heard the

475
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 1: faint sounds of an orchestra playing. They thought a rehearsal

476
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 1: was going on, but when they checked, no one was there.

477
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 1: And then as they started to walk away, the lights

478
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 1: suddenly went out and the music got louder. The employee

479
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 1: checked the switch and sure enough it was turned off.

480
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 1: They turned it back on, but then the switch turned

481
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,679
Speaker 1: down on its own the entire time the music kept playing.

482
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: They ran out and grabbed some security guards. However, when

483
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: they entered the ballroom to check, the room was silent

484
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 1: and the light switch responded just fine. Down the great

485
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,439
Speaker 1: hall from the ballroom is the lobby, and one account

486
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,640
Speaker 1: from an anonymous staff member mentioned a frequent experience where

487
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: a woman was glimsed on the mezzanine from the lobby.

488
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 1: When someone looked closely, she was gone. One evening, in

489
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: the hotel's bar the cave, two bartenders and two guests

490
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: heard aloud that at the opposite end of the bar

491
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: and a stack of tea cups and saucers they had

492
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 1: stacked underneath the bar came flying out at least four

493
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: ft and smashed all over the place. They had no

494
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: doubt that there was a spirit in the room, and

495
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: the guests quickly finished up their conversation and left for

496
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: the night. They never came back for a drink. New

497
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: England couple and dear friends of mine, Sarah Vickers and

498
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: Kyle James Patrick, have stayed at the Mount Washington Hotel

499
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: numerous times. Once Kyle said he felt pins and needles

500
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: on his feet in the middle of the night. He

501
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: also couldn't go back to bed after seeing a man's

502
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 1: face in the mirror on the way to the bathroom

503
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: at three in the morning. They did attend one of

504
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 1: My Strange Escapes weekends at the hotel and Sarah definitely

505
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: came out of that one a believer. Kyle and Sarah

506
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: have stayed at the Mount Washington many times on New

507
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: Year's Eve, and they almost always stayed in the Princess Room.

508
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 1: So there was one weekend where the group took their

509
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: party to Room three fourteen when the formal events at

510
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 1: the hotel ended. At some point, a random middle aged

511
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: man named Steve opened the door and came into the room.

512
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: He refused to leave. He kept going on about how

513
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 1: high he was and how he wanted to talk to

514
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 1: the girls. Steve was escorted out, but again snuck back in. However,

515
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: the next day there was not a trace of this

516
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: man in the hotel or lobby. No one knew who

517
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: he was. Fast forward to them visiting me at a

518
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 1: Strange Escapes weekend a couple of years ago. Kyle and

519
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: Sarah were having a private e v P session with

520
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: Adam and myself in Sweet three fourteen, and not a

521
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: lot was happening, so they decided to head back to bed,

522
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 1: and then things got very strange. Knowing that they always

523
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 1: left a light on for the sun, the couple was

524
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 1: surprised when the light went off about half an hour

525
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: after they all went to bed. Patrick called out to

526
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 1: his brother in law, thinking he turned the light off

527
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: by accident, but there was no answer. Suddenly the door

528
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 1: slams shut, so Sarah says they were very confused and

529
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 1: assumed it was a practical joke, but their brother in

530
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: law was in bed, unaware that anything had happened. What

531
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 1: they didn't realize was in that moment we were still

532
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: investigating in room three fourteen and through the spirit box,

533
00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: a ghost named Steve kept calling for Kyle and asking

534
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: to party with the girls. He kept mentioning he was

535
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: high as a kite? Did I mention that Kyle and

536
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: Sarah had never told me that weird story with the

537
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: guy named Steve. I had no idea this had happened

538
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: to them. So we don't know who Steve is or

539
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: why he's stuck at the Mount Washington Hotel. But that's

540
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: just one of the many mysteries within that place. So

541
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: on that note, I want to talk the hauntings and

542
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: theories about them at Washington, and I could not think

543
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: of two better people to speak on this with than

544
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: my BFF and paranormal investigator Adam Bury and one of

545
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: my other BFFs, occult specialist and paranormal researcher, John Tenney.

546
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 1: So it's going to get very weird. So stay tuned

547
00:31:44,280 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: because that is coming up next. All right, So I

548
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: am currently sitting here with Mr Adam Burry, paranormal investigator

549
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: bff um and Mr John Tenney, occult specialist, paranormal researcher

550
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: and so full disclosure, guys. When I was trying to

551
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: figure out who to talk to about the Mount Washington Hotel,

552
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: you know, normally when I do these podcasts, I find

553
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: people who are closely affiliated with them and at Donnda me.

554
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 1: I think that we have investigated the Mount Washington probably

555
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: more than anyone else. Yeah, we go back every year

556
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: and we spend multiple nights and I go back sometimes

557
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: not affiliated, even with an event. I just go back

558
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: and investigate. And what I love about the Mount Washington

559
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: is that they're very open to us. You know, We've

560
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: had a lot of locations where we do investigations or

561
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: we do events, and they they kind of almost tolerate us,

562
00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 1: where the Mount Washington very much welcomes us. And you know,

563
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: they've always kind of embraced their history with the princess

564
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: and everything, and so I think that has a lot

565
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: to do with it. How do you feel our reception

566
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: has been at the hotel over the years. I think

567
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: they enjoy us. I mean it changed from privately owned

568
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 1: right or owned back corporation, one corporation to another because

569
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: Omni took it over right, we had more access to

570
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: spaces when it wasn't Omni, because I think the people

571
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: before the Omni really we're like, Okay, do whatever you want.

572
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: And you know, I don't think they were so worried

573
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: about people falling and hurting themselves in spooky in spooky places.

574
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: But I think now it's a little more corporate and

575
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: they have to like dot their eyes and cross their teas,

576
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: and I think we might be tolerated a little bit

577
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: more now, you know, we were saying like we're tolerated.

578
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: I think that's the case. I mean, I think the

579
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: people before they were like, whatever, it's fine, go up

580
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: in that spooky cross space or whatever you want to do.

581
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: But they love it. I mean they've always been very nice. Yeah,

582
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: we used to be able to go into the towers.

583
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: We can't go in the towers anymore. And I can't

584
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: necessarily fault them for that because when we go in

585
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: the towers, the floor is you know, almost falling up

586
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: from underneath their feet. So there is there's probably some

587
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: you know, liability issues there. I think that one of

588
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: the reasons that we're tolerated, so you say, at the

589
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: Mount Washington, is because if you think about it as

590
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,280
Speaker 1: an event and resort, Like when you tell an event

591
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 1: and a resort that you're going to bring a few

592
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: hundred people into the place, they get very worried that

593
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: it's going to be loud and raucous. And sure, we

594
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 1: might have the I p parties and after parties. But

595
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: we're bringing in hundreds of people who love to be

596
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,320
Speaker 1: in a historic location and love to explore the haunted

597
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 1: location and are respectful of locations and so like to

598
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 1: bring in hundreds of people that you don't really have

599
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: to worry that much about, who are going to love

600
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: the property because of its history. I feel like for

601
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: a resort, that's one of the reasons they're like, yeah,

602
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: bring us, bring us people like this. Yeah, a thousand

603
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: per cent. And so that being said, just for people listening,

604
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 1: I do own a company called Strange Escapes where we

605
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: plan like basically paranormal vacations for people, and we do

606
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 1: them at the Mount Washington every year. And so we

607
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: show up with a few hundred of our closest paranormal

608
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: friends and fans, and we kind of take over the

609
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 1: hotel and it's a weekend filled with investigations and lectures

610
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: and learning and really good energy. And I think that

611
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: kind of raises the vibe at the hotel and results

612
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: in some really interesting activity. But to your point, John,

613
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: when you tell a hotel a resort that you want

614
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: to bring in those people and just kind of sit

615
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: in the dark all night, and be as quiet as possible.

616
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 1: They're like, oh, please bring in all your ghost hunting friends.

617
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: You know, we're not like some crazy wedding or a

618
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: conference like. These are people who like their whole point

619
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 1: is to experience the location to such an extent that

620
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: they will be quiet and still for hours on end.

621
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 1: And that seems to me like a kind of a

622
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: dream for some of these hotels, right, It's like they

623
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: spend a lot of money at the bar, they eat

624
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: a lot of food, and they are quiet as mice. Yeah, exactly,

625
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: that's a dream. So any other haunted locations listening, feel

626
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: free to invite us. We're a lot of fun. My

627
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 1: history with the Mount Washington goes back really far. The

628
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: first time I went there, I think I still lived

629
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 1: in California. I went there for an event. I showed

630
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 1: up in the middle of the night, and you know,

631
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: I had flown all day, had driven hours, had never

632
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: been to this place, and I remember driving for what

633
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 1: seemed like forever up in those New Hampshire white mountains

634
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: in like pitch darkness, and then suddenly you kind of

635
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: turned the bend and there is this majestic, insanely lit

636
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: hotel in the middle of nowhere, and there's really no

637
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: words to describe the first time you lay eyes on

638
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: the Mount Washington Hotel, like it is just it's beyond anything.

639
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: We've all traveled a lot. It is my favorite hotel

640
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: I have ever been to. We go back regularly, but

641
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: I do remember that first night, pulling in and kind

642
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: of walking into the lobby, getting checked in, and then

643
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 1: wanting to check out the event space. I think it's

644
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 1: probably one or two in the morning, and so I

645
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: was with my event organizers at the time, and we

646
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 1: all together kind of went or there were three of us.

647
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: We walked into the ballroom. It was all dark, but

648
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: it was already set for our lectures the next day,

649
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: and we walked in and just kind of checked it out.

650
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 1: And I remember as we were walking out, I turned

651
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: to one of them and I was like, it feels

652
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: kind of different in here. It feels weird in here.

653
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: And right end we heard this woman's laugh. This is

654
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: kind of like like this, very like dramatic like laugh.

655
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 1: We all heard it. We looked around. This place was

656
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 1: desolate at that time of night, and we were there

657
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 1: in the off season very much on purpose, and I

658
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 1: remember being like, Wow, I've been here five minutes and

659
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:23,240
Speaker 1: I've heard this this like crazy laugh out of nowhere.

660
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: So each of you, like, what were your first experiences

661
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: with the hotel or what were your not even first

662
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: but just like maybe you're more notable. I know, Adam,

663
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: you've had the craziest experience. For me, you're absolutely right.

664
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 1: Like I remember driving to the Mount Washington for the

665
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 1: first time and thinking to myself, there is nothing here,

666
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 1: and then you make that turn and you're like, oh,

667
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 1: there's a magical wonderland here, like there's all of a sudden,

668
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: it just appears like a ghost, it just shows up.

669
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: And then for me, I think the first night I

670
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 1: was there, it was late at night, it was probably

671
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:02,359
Speaker 1: two or three in the morning, and I was just

672
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: walking the hallways, being quiet, trying to get a feel

673
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 1: for the building. And I knew that people would be

674
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: coming for the event and that they were interested in

675
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 1: ghosts and stuff. And so I heard a man talking

676
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 1: to a woman and they were down the hallway from me,

677
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: and I thought, oh, these people are up late, they're

678
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 1: probably interested in ghosts as well, So I will sneak

679
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 1: up behind them and give them a little ghostly shock.

680
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: So I walked faster down the hallway, and they were

681
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: staying ahead of me. And then I came around a

682
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: corner and started to go down the stairs, and I

683
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 1: could still hear them in the stairwell, but then they

684
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 1: stopped talking and I went further down the stairs and

685
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 1: I was out of the hallway, so I could kind

686
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 1: of run down the stairs. And I ran down the

687
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 1: stairs and there was no one at the bottom of

688
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 1: the stairs, and I was like, I've been here fifteen

689
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 1: minutes and I just chased a man and a woman

690
00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: who don't exist through the hallways. Yeah. Yes, And it's

691
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: weird because a lot of those experiences and a lot

692
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: of those kind of people encountered and seen don't necessarily

693
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 1: line up historically or as far as like death's on

694
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 1: record and everything with the property. And I'm very curious

695
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: as to why. Like so, Adam, your experience resonates very

696
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 1: much with me, if you want to talk about it,

697
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: because it's like it's so out of character for what

698
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: anyone would expect from the hotel, and so earlier in

699
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: the first half the podcast, we did talk about our

700
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 1: friends Kyle and Sarah and their experience with Steve, who

701
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:45,879
Speaker 1: was clearly some guy from a more modern time who

702
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: was very interested in like meeting girls and getting high,

703
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: and like this was this guy like not at all

704
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: like a death that was on record with the hotel

705
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: or anything you would expect from the princess. She would

706
00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: be appalled at that behavior. And your experience in mind

707
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 1: me a lot of that. Yeah. So it was the

708
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: first time I had ever been to the Mount Washington.

709
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: It was April of twenty eleven. Actually, wow, pull that

710
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 1: out of my just pull it out, um. And we

711
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,760
Speaker 1: were investigating it at this point. We were we were

712
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:21,240
Speaker 1: allowed to investigate the towers, which you can't get into anymore.

713
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: But when we investigate, we investigate in small groups. And

714
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: so at the beginning of every group there are dues

715
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: and don't because we were in this space, it was like,

716
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: please don't go, you know, into the middle of the space.

717
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 1: There's a giant glass ceiling thing that you could fall through. Anyway.

718
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: I was giving instructions and I said, okay, go and investigate.

719
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,839
Speaker 1: And I turned around to watch people leave. And I

720
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: turned back around and there's this woman standing in front

721
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: of me. She has black hair, bangs, long straight hair.

722
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 1: She's wearing a gray sweatshirt, red sweatpants, old ish rebox

723
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: and she's holding a diet coke bottle and she's looking

724
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: at me, and I say, I'm like, can I did

725
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: you hear what I said? I gave all the instructions

726
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 1: are you Are you familiar? And she was like, no,

727
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: I'm not. And then I repeated myself and all the instructions,

728
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: and I got to and I don't go in there

729
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: because if you go up there, you could trip and

730
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: fall through that glass ceiling and that would not be

731
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: I mean, and you could die. And I was like

732
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,399
Speaker 1: making a joke about it, because you know, and she goes, oh,

733
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 1: that'd be okay, And she's just staring at me in

734
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 1: my face, holding this diet coke bottle. And I noticed

735
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: at this point, like the diet coke bottles a little

736
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: dirty there. It's about an inch of water, brown murky water.

737
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 1: Maybe there's some cigarette butts in it. It's just so

738
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: weird and out of place and out of character. And

739
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 1: she's staring at me through me, looking at me, and

740
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: I said, hold on a second, and I turned around

741
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: my back. I turned my back to her, and I

742
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: look into this other room to check on these people

743
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:56,439
Speaker 1: and say, how is it going there like it's great,

744
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 1: and then I go, oh, my gosh, she's not wearing

745
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: a lanyard. Maybe she crashed the event because we have

746
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 1: crashers sometimes. And I turned back around to confront her

747
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 1: about it, and she is gone. And the weird thing

748
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: is when you get to that tower, you go up

749
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: an entire flight of stairs to get there, and when

750
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,320
Speaker 1: you open and close the door to get into the stairs,

751
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: it is very loud. That did not happen. She did

752
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,240
Speaker 1: not go downstairs. So I started making my way around

753
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 1: this octagon, you know, tower, looking in every room to

754
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: be like, where is this woman? Where is this woman?

755
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 1: Where's this woman? I screamed for everybody to come back

756
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 1: to me, and I asked them. I was like, have

757
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 1: you seen this woman? And nobody knew who I was

758
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: talking about. No one had seen her. I was the

759
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: only person that saw her. No one. And I asked

760
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: every single group all night long. I remember asking you.

761
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 1: I probably asked Tenny if he was there, Like you know,

762
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 1: I was telling everyone who would listen, and I kept

763
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 1: looking for this woman and I couldn't find her. And

764
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: then months later I was at another event, and this

765
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: is when the hotel would send somebody to events to

766
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: get people to come and hunt ghosts, and the sky

767
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: sees me come in the door and he belines it

768
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: for me and he says, Adam, we've seen her, And

769
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: I was like, who, And it has to be reminded.

770
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 1: He was like that woman that you talked about. We've

771
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: seen her, but every time we see her, she's down

772
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: at the end of a hallway, turning a corner, or

773
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 1: she's going somewhere, you know, and they can't catch up

774
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:22,919
Speaker 1: to her. Like she goes down the hallway where there's

775
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: no exit and she's not there. And she looks like that.

776
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 1: I mean, she looks like she's wearing the sweatpants and

777
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: she has the It's the weirdest thing because it looks

778
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 1: like a person. And I was talking to her and

779
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: I had no doubt in my mind that it was

780
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:39,399
Speaker 1: a person until she was it wasn't a person. Well,

781
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: John brings that up a lot in his lectures. How

782
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 1: you know how many ghosts have we seen that we

783
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: just had no idea where ghosts? You know, how how

784
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 1: many times have we seen an apparition that just looked

785
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 1: so real that we went about our day and we

786
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 1: had no idea that this was someone you know who

787
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 1: was potentially a ghost. And you know, going back in

788
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: the history of the mountawah Rington, there really aren't any

789
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: recorded modern deaths on property, but that doesn't necessarily mean

790
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: they don't exist. You know, a lot of these kind

791
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 1: of bigger hotels and things, they don't really advertise that

792
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: when you go back and look at deaths that took

793
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: place there in the early nineteen hundreds or whatever, when

794
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: there was all these like very well to do people

795
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: there and things. There were two documented deaths of two gentlemen.

796
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 1: But like I mean, these people arrived with kind of

797
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: a cavalcade of like servants and you know, helpers and assistants.

798
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: If any of those people died, that would not have

799
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 1: been in the New York Times. And then even so

800
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: later on and so I did uncover one death that

801
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 1: we did talk about earlier, but I don't know that

802
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:41,879
Speaker 1: you guys know about it. But I did find one

803
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: really gruesome death that happened on property in the twenties.

804
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: And basically everyone was at breakfast one morning. This was

805
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: they're all at breakfast. They hear a woman screaming from

806
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 1: the lobby. People run to the lobby and they find

807
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: this woman basically crushed between the wall and that elevator

808
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 1: in the lobby right there. So the elevator boy had

809
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: that that's what they called him in the newspaper article.

810
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 1: By the way, the elevator boy his title, had lost

811
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 1: control of the elevator either when she was getting on

812
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 1: or getting off, and she basically was crushed between the

813
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 1: wall and the elevator, and her family had to identify

814
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 1: her only by her wrist watch. Good lord gnarly. And

815
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 1: that elevator has been in use, I mean the elevators

816
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: in use today. I mean now they don't have an attendant.

817
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 1: When we first started going, there was an attendant, but

818
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: there's not one there anymore. But that's the only other

819
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 1: like really crazy death I could find there. But that

820
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: does not explain your diet coke lady, or the people

821
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:44,240
Speaker 1: that John Tenny saw. Right. I have a new theory

822
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 1: and I'm interested to hear your thoughts on it. So

823
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 1: every time we go to the Mount Washington, I bring

824
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 1: up this story because you know, the drive is long.

825
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 1: It's like going to the Shining Hotel, you know. And

826
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 1: I we were talking about this story again and Ben

827
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 1: was like looking at photos and it was like, does

828
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: this did this look like her? Because we're trying to

829
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 1: figure out what she looks like. And I look at

830
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 1: the picture and I said, oh, sort of like she

831
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 1: could be a relative of that person, like a cousin

832
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: or aunt, like the same features. And he was like,

833
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: that's the princess. And so I was like, what if?

834
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 1: What if? Because of because this woman wanted to know

835
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: why I was there, wanted to know why I was

836
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: leading the group, what I was doing in the space

837
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: I wasn't supposed to be in. What if the Princess

838
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 1: just manifested herself as something as close as she could

839
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: get to modern day so that I would talk to her,

840
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: Because if she showed up in victorian dress, I'd be

841
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: like whoa and like running around with my flappy arms,

842
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: like breaking out. I don't know. After having heavily researched

843
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: the Princess the last couple of weeks, I feel like

844
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 1: that could be a possibility, But I don't think she

845
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 1: would show up as a woman with a coke bottle

846
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: with cigarette butts in it and sweatpants, Like that is

847
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 1: not our princess. Okay, you know what? Like the algorithm

848
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 1: got off and like she's like well, this will have

849
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 1: to do. But it's like I felt like as if

850
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 1: you know, she is just showing me herself as something,

851
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 1: so I will talk to her because she needed that information,

852
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 1: Like why are you here, what are you doing? What's happening?

853
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:20,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just thought it was really really weird.

854
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 1: And you know, I've never seen her again. And every

855
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 1: time I go, I sometimes I just sit in hallways

856
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 1: and like watch for her and wait, you know, I've

857
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: never seen her again. So maybe this is putting it

858
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 1: out in the universe. We're all going to see her

859
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 1: next this this November when we go back to your

860
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: to your point though, Adam, like, maybe she's not manifesting

861
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 1: those clothes and that dirty coke bottle, but I mean,

862
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 1: because we don't really know why ghosts wear clothes and

863
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 1: and where they get their clothes from, Like maybe it

864
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 1: is her, but your brain is manifesting her in a

865
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,320
Speaker 1: way that doesn't scare you and make you run around

866
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 1: with your arms flapping and breaking out. Like maybe maybe

867
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: your brain couldn't see it at that time in that

868
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: spooky way, and so your brain put her in a

869
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:16,399
Speaker 1: normal outfit. A very relaxing woman from the eighties with

870
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:21,439
Speaker 1: a dirty cigarette butt filled Coca Cola bottle. I mean,

871
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 1: maybe we're learning something new about Adam Barry exactly. That's

872
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: an internal like an internal weird thing I need to

873
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:34,720
Speaker 1: work through. We've talked about this before though, there's a

874
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 1: at least one of the ideas that we've we've I know,

875
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: we've spoken about and I talked about it lectures. Is.

876
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 1: One of the difficulties with ghost hunting any place is

877
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:47,399
Speaker 1: that sometimes these entities or spirits or ghosts show up

878
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: and we don't know who they are, and we don't

879
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 1: know why they're there. And maybe it's because they are

880
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: on a type of vacation. Maybe they go to the

881
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 1: places that they loved and they just check in and

882
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 1: walk around owned because they loved it when they were alive,

883
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 1: and so it's not that they died there. It's that

884
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 1: now that they're not tethered to their body, they can

885
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: go anywhere they want, so they go to the places

886
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 1: that they love. I mean, I would one hundred percent

887
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 1: if I was a ghost, I would one hundred go

888
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: back to the Mount Washington, Like it's one of my

889
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: happy places. As you guys don't, like, we go there

890
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: all the time and I could definitely see myself in

891
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 1: like spirit form being like, you know what, I'm gonna

892
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 1: go check up on the Mount Washington and see what's

893
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 1: going on there and like have those feels, you know,

894
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: get that nostalgia. So that being said, something that has

895
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: kind of done, not necessarily related, but just something that

896
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:44,800
Speaker 1: I've thought about more now, just because you know, Charlotte

897
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 1: loves hiking, and so she and mr X mr X

898
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: being my significant other that chooses to remain unnamed, um

899
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 1: mr X, she and uh Jimmy, they go hiking a

900
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 1: lot up there, Like she's hiped Mount Washington twice now

901
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 1: and like you know, she's eight. She loves it. But

902
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 1: every time they go up there, I you know, I do,

903
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 1: being the morbid person I am. They'll go on to

904
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 1: like a certain mountain, and I will of course google,

905
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:17,240
Speaker 1: like you know, Eisenhower deaths, and I will learn about

906
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: people who died hiking up there and hiking, especially back

907
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 1: when the Mount Washington was first. I mean, obviously it's

908
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 1: a huge part of that now, a huge component of

909
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 1: it now, but even back in like the early nineteen hundreds,

910
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: like they forged a lot of trails back there and stuff,

911
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 1: and there were a lot of deaths, and there are

912
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 1: a lot of deaths of people who were staying at

913
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:40,240
Speaker 1: the hotel and never made it back they went out.

914
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,839
Speaker 1: I mean, keep in mind, we're talking millions of people

915
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 1: hiking there over the years, but there are moments where

916
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 1: people like that staff has that job of cleaning out

917
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 1: that room of someone that didn't make it back from

918
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 1: a hike. It's very rare, and so sometimes I wonder that, like,

919
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,399
Speaker 1: are those people kind of you know, they didn't die

920
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: on property, But it's just interesting because there is that

921
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 1: weird energy there. I don't know, I'm I'm reaching. Maybe

922
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:09,720
Speaker 1: it makes sense though. Also you're talking about the land

923
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:13,760
Speaker 1: it's built on being you know, it's very beautiful. Native

924
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 1: Americans were around there. I know that you and I

925
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 1: have had many weird experiences down in the lecture area

926
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 1: in the SPA, And I actually brought that up in

927
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 1: the history earlier, was that, like, we have found that

928
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 1: to be one of the most haunted places in the hotel,

929
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 1: even though it's new to the structure, and they have

930
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 1: since added on to that, there's a whole other wing

931
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 1: of new rooms. What's really weird is that when you

932
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,399
Speaker 1: pull up you don't see any of that, Like they've

933
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: really done it cleverly. Were like you pull up, but

934
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 1: it is still very much the original facade of the hotel.

935
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:47,760
Speaker 1: You do not see the spa wing or the new rooms.

936
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:50,240
Speaker 1: It just looks exactly like it did when it was built.

937
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 1: But in the back there are these new structures. But

938
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: we've investigated the Presidential wing many times and had really

939
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: crazy experiences. So John, maybe you can speak to that,

940
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 1: Like why do you think that area would be more

941
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: haunted or have so much activity? Well, I think people

942
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 1: who ghost hunt and go on investigations. We know this.

943
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 1: Like whenever a house is being rebuilt or an addition

944
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 1: is being put on, like that seems to kick up activity.

945
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: And it's almost like if there are spirits and entities

946
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 1: who are used to roaming the halls, like oh now

947
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: I have a new area to go into, like and

948
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 1: and plus people, you know, whether we think about this

949
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 1: in the forefront of our mind, but like when you're

950
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:37,280
Speaker 1: building something, you have people doing a craft, usually something

951
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 1: they love. They're putting their like emotional energy into building

952
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 1: a new whole segment, and they might talk about people

953
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 1: are gonna get married here, and people are going to

954
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 1: have memories here, and people are going to stay here,

955
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 1: and that intentional energy might even act like a magnet

956
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: to the entities that are already in the other parts

957
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 1: of the hotel, like what is happening? Why are so

958
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,760
Speaker 1: many people thinking about this other area where there's nothing,

959
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: where it's being constructed, And so they go and hang

960
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 1: out and they see all the activity and they're like, oh, well,

961
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 1: I'm gonna see what happens over here. And now that

962
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 1: new part is as haunted as the rest of the place.

963
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,399
Speaker 1: I will say one of my best friends, she didn't

964
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 1: really know the history there. I told her that we

965
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,439
Speaker 1: were doing an offense there or whatever, and she said,

966
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 1: you won't believe this. I was at the spa one time,

967
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 1: the the spa, you know, not not in the main hotel,

968
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 1: and she was like, I was getting a massage, and

969
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,359
Speaker 1: she said, and the woman left for whatever reason, and

970
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 1: she said, I felt like someone literally started pushing down

971
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 1: on my chest so hard. She was like, I couldn't breathe.

972
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 1: I was gasping for air. And she was like, I

973
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 1: had the worst feeling. And she's like, I literally had

974
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:55,359
Speaker 1: to throw myself off of the massage table and I

975
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 1: had to get her. I had to convince her to

976
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,320
Speaker 1: come back to the hotel. I was like, it's fine.

977
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 1: That was it's like, you know, in my brain, I

978
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 1: was like, it's so weird because that, like we've said,

979
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 1: like that is seemingly one of the more haunted spots

980
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 1: in the hotel, and she had this experience like completely,

981
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 1: you know this, She's not into ghost or anything. I

982
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 1: will say I've had many massages there and I've never

983
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 1: had that experience and would go back anytime. But it's

984
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:21,760
Speaker 1: just so weird that, you know, she had no idea

985
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 1: of the history or that it was haunted and she

986
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:26,800
Speaker 1: had this wild experience there. Well, you know, we always

987
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 1: talked to about like the different types of experiences. And

988
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,319
Speaker 1: one of the things that I don't mention very much

989
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 1: because it's one of my little I feel like it's

990
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 1: a personal, little not trick, but I don't know what

991
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 1: the good word is. But when I'm at places like

992
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 1: the Mount Washington, I'm a cigarette smoker, and so I'm

993
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 1: super sensitive to the smell of cigarette smoke and there

994
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 1: are places like the Mount Washington where I can tell

995
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:54,399
Speaker 1: if activity quote unquote ghostly activity is going to kick

996
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 1: up in an area because I start to smell cigarette smoke,

997
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 1: and then I remember at these locations, the majority of

998
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 1: the time they've been open, people used to smoke inside

999
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:09,360
Speaker 1: of them, and so I feel like my brain is

1000
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:11,799
Speaker 1: like up, someone smoking in here, and I know that

1001
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: they're not. I know that no one's smoking in the building,

1002
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 1: but it's almost like that's how the spirit or the

1003
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 1: ghost figures out a way to let me know that

1004
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 1: they're there. I don't know if that's stranger now. No,

1005
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 1: I think they're very personable. I cannot pinpoint what goes

1006
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 1: on in that place. People always ask me, what is

1007
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 1: the most haunted place you've been in the US, And

1008
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:36,319
Speaker 1: I'm like, the Mount Washington Hotel, like, hands down to me,

1009
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 1: is the most haunted place I've been. I've been into

1010
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 1: asylums and hospitals and crazy things, but like the Mount Washington,

1011
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 1: something always happened. You Know, there was a night where,

1012
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 1: like my the light in my room kept going on

1013
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 1: and off, and like I would get up and I

1014
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 1: could hear it flicking back on, and I would be like,

1015
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 1: you need to turn this light off, and then finally

1016
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 1: it would turn off. And you know, things like that

1017
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 1: happen all the time. There was a time where Charlotte

1018
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 1: and I my water we rented a room there in March,

1019
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 1: which is very much slow season there because ski season

1020
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 1: is winding down, and we were one of three rooms

1021
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 1: checked in into that entire hotel, and Charlotte was just

1022
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 1: running circles around the lobby and there was like a

1023
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 1: blizzard that night, and we were up with than one

1024
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 1: of the tower suites and the wind was howling and

1025
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 1: I literally was living like my haunted life in that moment.

1026
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 1: It was like, there is no place more haunted than this.

1027
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I think the hotel remembers us. Oh,

1028
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 1: it totally does. I've been there so many times. I

1029
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,439
Speaker 1: feel that, Yeah, it's like has a mind of its own.

1030
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 1: And you know, we have our fun things that we

1031
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 1: always do when we're there, right, we have we always

1032
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 1: do like sort of the same things to go to

1033
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 1: the spot, or we have a cocktail in the same spot,

1034
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 1: or we watch an episode of Kindred Spirits, you know,

1035
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 1: with a group of people, and we make these lasting memories.

1036
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:01,919
Speaker 1: But I don't think the tel forgets us. And when

1037
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 1: we return, it's like, oh, welcome back. Let's like, let

1038
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:06,959
Speaker 1: me show you this new thing I've got to show

1039
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 1: you today. It's it's fascinating and I wish, I mean

1040
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 1: I sort of wish I could live there. Did you

1041
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 1: have you talked about the portrait of Stickney? I haven't.

1042
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 1: I was going to talk about that in the end,

1043
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 1: So everybody stay tuned. I'm going to give you a

1044
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 1: little four one one. Yeah, it's a it's a doozy

1045
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 1: it is. And like what you were saying, I think

1046
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 1: we might be the only people who go up there

1047
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 1: regularly and talked to the hotel. I think people go

1048
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 1: up there, they experienced the hotel, and they do their thing,

1049
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 1: and they have their weddings and they have their vacations.

1050
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 1: But I think all of us have like an active

1051
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 1: conversation with her. I'm going to call her her well

1052
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 1: and to the extent, like to the extreme about like

1053
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 1: Adam saying that the hotel remembers us. So the first

1054
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 1: time I was at the hotel, I did the investigation

1055
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 1: out in the area where they have of the horses

1056
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 1: and a pig and the stable. Yeah, the stable, and

1057
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 1: nothing really seemed to happen. Every year since that time,

1058
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 1: when I go out into the stables, the activity in

1059
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 1: the stables is like, Oh, it's Tenny and those people again,

1060
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 1: because the last time we were hearing horses outside of

1061
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 1: the stable and people were seeing little shapes move around

1062
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 1: on the floor that looked like dogs and pigs and cows,

1063
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 1: and so it's like even the animals like love them

1064
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 1: out Washington to the extent that they're staying there. Yeah.

1065
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I think this was the best unpaid for

1066
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 1: advertisement for the Mont Washington they've ever had amongst us

1067
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 1: spooky people. Yeah, they're listening upgrade every time we It's

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Speaker 1: just one of my favorite places. And I just I

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Speaker 1: feel like what you guys was. I think that it's

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Speaker 1: very easy for people to go up there and have

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Speaker 1: a beautiful, lovely vacation. But if you're into ghosts and

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Speaker 1: you want to shift your focus and maybe try to

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Speaker 1: experience something there, I think it's pretty easy. And it's

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Speaker 1: also like very safe and secure, and so it's a

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Speaker 1: good spot for people like us. So and I feel

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Speaker 1: like we just scratched the surface, by the way, because

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Speaker 1: I know we've all had way more experience and we

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Speaker 1: could literally talk about them at Washington for six hours

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Speaker 1: maybe more. But just tell me like individually, like John,

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Speaker 1: I know you have a podcast happening, tell us where

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Speaker 1: people can find you and you know how to support you.

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Speaker 1: So my podcast is called What's Up Weird? Though it's

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Speaker 1: not paranormal at all. It's just two people, two friends,

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Speaker 1: talking to each other. But all of my social media

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Speaker 1: is just John E. L Tenny. That's Twitter, Instagram, all

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Speaker 1: of it. Or you can just type Tenny Weirdo into

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Speaker 1: Google and follow where it leads you. That's fabulous. Mr Barry.

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Speaker 1: I know you don't have anything going on, so I'm

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Speaker 1: just gonna end this right now, and I'm just kidding.

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Speaker 1: Anything happen. You know, you can watch Candred Spirits. I

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Speaker 1: feel like there's going to be a new season around

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Speaker 1: the corner at some point. Whenever you're listening to this podcast,

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Speaker 1: stay tuned. Oh this is coming out very soon. But

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Speaker 1: our new season is coming out early early next year, right,

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Speaker 1: So I'm doing that and then you can follow me

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Speaker 1: find me on the social just google Adambury, Instagram's Adambury.

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Speaker 1: My Twitter is Adam J. Berry because the Adam Bury

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Speaker 1: in the UK will not give it to me, so

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Speaker 1: that's okay. But we're friends now, so that's that's a plus.

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Speaker 1: I think you just haven't you need to up your

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Speaker 1: your price for that? He was like, why would I

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Speaker 1: sell it? It's my name and I'm like, okay, fine,

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Speaker 1: like it's also my name's also well. Thank you so much,

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Speaker 1: you guys. I can't wait for us to get back

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Speaker 1: to the Mount Washington in November. Although by the time

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Speaker 1: people listen to this might not be November, but we

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Speaker 1: are up there almost every November of every year with

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Speaker 1: my company, Strange Escape. So check it out and join us.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, guys, love you. I'm so happy to have

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Speaker 1: had this conversation. My thank you for joining me on

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Speaker 1: this extremely deep dive into the Mount Washington resort and

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Speaker 1: all of its hauntings. I don't claim to know what's

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Speaker 1: going on there, because it's not a haunting that fits

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Speaker 1: any textbook haunting by any means. I do know that

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Speaker 1: despite every strange and maybe slightly scary experience I've had there,

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Speaker 1: I keep going back, and we'll always go back. It

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Speaker 1: will continue to be a special spot for me and

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Speaker 1: my family, and that veranda with those spectacular mountain views,

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Speaker 1: will always be my happy place. I did just want

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Speaker 1: to say a quick thank you to all of you

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Speaker 1: who have enjoyed season one of Haunted Road. We are

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Speaker 1: already very much at work on season two and your

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Speaker 1: support and your comments and reviews and feedback have just

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Speaker 1: been incredible. So thank you for getting weird with me

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Speaker 1: every Wednesday. And I can't wait to be back with

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Speaker 1: season two, so we will be talking again soon. I'm

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Speaker 1: Amy Bruney, and this was Haunted Road. Haunted Road is

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Speaker 1: a production of I Heart Radio and Grimm and Mild

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Speaker 1: from Aaron Mankey. The podcast is written and hosted by

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Speaker 1: Amy Bruney. Executive producers include Aaron Mankey, Alex Williams, and

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Speaker 1: Matt Frederick. The show is produced by rema Ill Kali

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Speaker 1: and Trevor Young. Taylor Haggerdorn is the show's researcher. For

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Speaker 1: more podcasts from I Heart Radio, visit the I heart

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