WEBVTT - #136 - Jon Pardi 0:00:01.600 --> 0:00:04.120 All right, welcome to episode one thirty six to the 0:00:04.160 --> 0:00:08.039 Bobby Cast with my buddy John Party. And sponsors are 0:00:08.080 --> 0:00:10.920 Dollar Shave Club and Life Block, and you're go ahead. 0:00:11.039 --> 0:00:12.959 It's like every time we talked, we we we talked 0:00:12.960 --> 0:00:15.080 about kind of human stuff. But I was like, hey, 0:00:15.120 --> 0:00:17.599 what's up, man, And You're like, I've been painting all day. 0:00:18.280 --> 0:00:21.080 Paint pain is not fun. Wait, but what are you painting? 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:23.600 And I think most people would think that John Party 0:00:23.600 --> 0:00:28.200 guy with you know, multiple smash country hits, we'll be 0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:31.720 having someone paint for him at this point. I had 0:00:31.760 --> 0:00:34.120 somebody paint for me the last time, and uh, we 0:00:34.159 --> 0:00:36.600 did a better job than me and my dad. But 0:00:36.760 --> 0:00:40.199 we're painting. The decks, have three decks and who just 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:44.000 remodeled the house, so they're pretty trash from foot foot, 0:00:44.040 --> 0:00:46.519 you know, foot in and out and carrying stuff and 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:51.720 dry wall and white stuff paint that just we know 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:54.440 when they're fixing stuff up. So it looks great now. 0:00:54.680 --> 0:00:56.760 So you go back and forth at home Debot, lots 0:00:56.760 --> 0:00:59.600 of home Depot trips and loves. They know you when 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:01.440 you walk, not by John part of the artists, but 0:01:01.440 --> 0:01:03.760 by the guy who comes in a lot. They know 0:01:03.880 --> 0:01:08.200 me by both. Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, you always like 0:01:08.240 --> 0:01:13.200 places that you enjoy going to enjoy you being there. Yeah. 0:01:13.280 --> 0:01:15.200 Well they always ask, you know, doing with your house yet, Man, 0:01:15.240 --> 0:01:16.840 it's been a long time. I'm like, yeah, well it 0:01:16.880 --> 0:01:18.880 has been a long time. We're playing at the Bluebird. 0:01:18.920 --> 0:01:20.920 You and I we put that charity event. You're like, yeah, 0:01:21.560 --> 0:01:24.600 having got I got a dumpster out. We're tearing out 0:01:24.600 --> 0:01:27.160 the house. Still got the dumpster. Still the du dumpster 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:29.480 still there. Yeah. It was kind of like it's a 0:01:29.560 --> 0:01:33.520 three story kind of cabin house that we started in 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:35.160 the center of the house and then we moved to 0:01:35.200 --> 0:01:37.679 basically just remodeling the whole thing, like new windows, new 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:40.760 a c and heating and and sand in the floors, 0:01:40.760 --> 0:01:43.680 a new kitchen, knocked down, three walls. You like that? 0:01:43.720 --> 0:01:45.080 Do you like that? You like the house? Well, I 0:01:45.120 --> 0:01:47.800 didn't do I helped. I helped, you know, get kind 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:49.640 of planed out. And because I'm on the road a 0:01:49.680 --> 0:01:52.520 lit if I could do with my schedule would be 0:01:52.560 --> 0:01:54.720 like four years. We'd still be talking about from all 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:58.120 in my house four years from now. But you know, 0:01:58.160 --> 0:02:01.080 I enjoy it. It's a good released from music. This 0:02:01.120 --> 0:02:03.279 whole week, I've kind of just not really done anything 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:06.240 with music until like today I picked up a guitar 0:02:06.320 --> 0:02:08.440 practicing a song I gotta play for a c monitors 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:12.720 and and then we got the podcast and just kind 0:02:12.720 --> 0:02:14.679 of taking off. Tomorrow I go back on tour. But 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:18.160 it's good to like do something like paint a deck. 0:02:18.760 --> 0:02:21.640 That's just kind of satisfying. You know, you can get 0:02:21.639 --> 0:02:24.840 a hate painting walls. That's not my thing. It's just 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:28.160 so like even like you ever pay in your house, 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:30.000 did a good job, but like I did that, you 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:34.320 did that a like, oh yeah, I'm great. I'm the opposite. 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:37.640 When I could, I could hire someone to paint again. 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:41.280 I never painted again. Yeah, I know. I messed up 0:02:41.280 --> 0:02:43.640 a lot of ceilings with my paint jobs. But the 0:02:43.720 --> 0:02:46.160 deck was easy because it's it's kind of it's like 0:02:48.320 --> 0:02:51.000 but it's more like sweeping kind of mindless. Yeah, and 0:02:51.080 --> 0:02:53.760 you and you see, I could a dirty go to 0:02:53.880 --> 0:02:56.240 like super clean. You ever watched the stuff on Reddit 0:02:56.280 --> 0:02:58.440 where they do you ever get on Reddit? Because they 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:02.320 have to have a whole like awbredded of satisfying things, 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:04.400 AND's exactly what you're talking about. Like they'll take a 0:03:04.440 --> 0:03:07.639 power washer, it's in power washing a deck and it 0:03:07.680 --> 0:03:10.280 goes from being disgusting and you watch it just gets 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:15.960 super Yeah. Yeah, power washing day too. That the deckster 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:19.040 look like crap after even after the power Yeah, we 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:20.680 needed to be painting really bad. What are you planning 0:03:20.680 --> 0:03:22.440 at a CM Honors? Do you know? Can you say 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:24.280 it's not on TV or anything? I guess or are 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:27.960 you supposed to be quiet about it? Um? I don't know. 0:03:28.160 --> 0:03:32.760 You know it's a it's a a good buddy. I've 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:34.400 been on tour with them and I know his song 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:35.840 means a lot to them. So I don't want to 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:39.840 a CM honors. Are you honoring or you being honored? 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:42.280 I'm the hope, I'm a host. So that's right, you 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:45.360 and Lauren are hosting it. How about that? Yeah, I'm excited. 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:47.720 That would be good. Then reading out loud a lot, 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:52.760 trying trying to slow down my pronunciation, you'd be good. 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:56.000 I'm trying to be you. Yeah, but you know you 0:03:56.080 --> 0:03:58.920 gotta read. I try to practice reading out loud, you 0:03:58.960 --> 0:04:00.960 know telephone? Just do you? You promptly gonna ask you're 0:04:01.000 --> 0:04:04.480 using a prompter? Probably, I imagine? Oh so are you 0:04:04.520 --> 0:04:09.640 doing any jokes? Yes? But I uh, we usually don't 0:04:09.680 --> 0:04:12.600 write it, and we usually try to help them. It's 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:14.920 like I won't say that. I would never say that. Like, 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:18.240 let's try to get something else and it comes back okay, 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:20.120 we'll say that's funny. We laugh, you know, kind of 0:04:20.440 --> 0:04:23.000 kind of we try to take if if it's cheesy, 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:24.080 you know what, kind of trying to make it a 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:25.919 little more. Let's let let's do something with this. So 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:28.000 I try to be hands on. That's that's what I do. 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:30.680 I mean, Mike d and I write, we both right 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:32.680 and new stand up comedy. But then we also I'll 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:35.680 do award shows and I'll have writers come in and 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:38.159 we're just sitting in a room and crank it out, 0:04:38.240 --> 0:04:41.359 and I'll be like, I don't know even uh. Some 0:04:41.400 --> 0:04:44.280 of the sketches we did, I hosted them on Fox 0:04:44.320 --> 0:04:47.080 the Heart Country Special, and you know, you go and 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:48.559 you sit in a bus, you do all these jokes, 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:50.480 and I go, I kind of get a little devote 0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:53.279 just because I would. I'm like, I would never make 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:57.840 this joke. And like my integrity though, who came up 0:04:57.880 --> 0:05:00.479 with the mini Bobby Bones? That was pretty good. That 0:05:00.600 --> 0:05:03.160 was not me. I wish I could take credit five 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:05.239 for that though. Yeah, that was a great idea and listen, 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:08.159 I have no issue. Ever, It's like, I love great writers. 0:05:08.560 --> 0:05:10.560 I love working with great writers. I love when someone 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:12.599 writes a joke that I use, you know for these 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:14.880 um so yeah, a little bible is not me. There's 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:16.719 one of the if you're that's why you got a 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:19.000 good team and writers though where you can fantastic team. 0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:21.880 You know, you agree on things that you would we'd 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:24.440 want to come up with, you'd want to say, and uh, 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:30.480 that's why whenever we get so you like presentation, present whatever. 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:32.240 You know what I'm trying to say. You give award 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:36.200 to somebody, but you're you tell them my presentation kind 0:05:36.200 --> 0:05:41.040 of work on that one already got him words of 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:45.480 um but you know, just little things that we say, 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:47.720 Oh that I would say more like that, you know. 0:05:48.000 --> 0:05:52.280 And there's some there's some cheesy jokes. Well cheese is good, ess, 0:05:52.600 --> 0:05:53.720 but it's good if you know, if you don't tell 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:56.479 jokes all the time. Cheese is good if I go 0:05:56.520 --> 0:05:59.160 out and throw out some real cheese balls. If not 0:05:59.240 --> 0:06:01.760 good because I'm suposed to tell jokes. Yeah, you're supposed 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:04.120 to be able to see good and be you're funny. 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:07.120 You know, you're naturally a funny, warm guy to be around. Yeah, 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:09.560 I got to be funny, look warm, just be warm. 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:12.000 Well this one was like bluegrass and was talking about 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:14.400 weed and like I just did, oh no, I get that. 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:16.800 I wasn't like, I don't know, that's not even that funny, 0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:19.599 Like you know, it didn't feel comfortable. There's a difference. 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:23.120 I was. I was, there's better high jokes. I mean, 0:06:23.160 --> 0:06:25.360 if we're gonna get down to like comedy, but like 0:06:25.400 --> 0:06:28.080 you you know, you're you're you c MT. I was like, man, 0:06:29.960 --> 0:06:31.560 that was when we did the Hode. It was me 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:33.720 and Hode and we came back. We came back with 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:36.719 like they when they like really you know me and 0:06:36.720 --> 0:06:38.799 big words, and it was they gave me this whole 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:41.240 tongue twister and like just try to do this and 0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:43.359 it like I kind of ab live with it and 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:45.200 it was really hard. It was like sea shores and 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:48.520 seashells all that. I'm like, oh my god, but it 0:06:48.560 --> 0:06:50.320 were it were it was really funny. So let me 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:51.800 tell you what song I really like. I like this 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:54.760 new in this night shift. There's a good one man. 0:06:55.960 --> 0:07:00.760 Whenever your record came out and I was listening to it, 0:07:00.839 --> 0:07:02.600 this one stuck out to me early. I was like, man, 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:04.360 this was a jam. I like the record. It's been 0:07:04.360 --> 0:07:05.919 out for a while at this point as we record 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:08.960 this with us today today is the August So when 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:12.040 when when the record come out? June sixteen? Is that right? 0:07:12.080 --> 0:07:16.600 It's sixteen, two years? Two years. You gotta be kidding me. 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:19.880 I bet you're just craving something new, like a new record. 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:22.160 Huh yeah, we've been working on it. Well, this song 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:24.200 is a jam and we'll come back to it. I 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:26.360 love this song. Thanksh yeah, turn it up a little bit. 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:30.400 Not a thing between you and me and it fields 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:39.120 so nice when you now? Is this the fifth single 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:41.480 from the record. This is the last single off California 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:45.400 Sunrise five singles. Pretty good it's been. It's been a 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:47.880 great record and it's been a great time. It's brought 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:49.680 me to a level I've never been before, and I'm 0:07:49.760 --> 0:07:53.320 very thankful for it. And uh but we're moving on 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:55.360 next year, and you know how it is with labels man, 0:07:55.400 --> 0:07:57.680 and I was like, when's the next record? Can we 0:07:57.720 --> 0:07:59.920 get it out? They're like August? Do that night? Team Like, 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:03.840 oh really right, but that's you know we're gonna Our 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:05.840 goal was to turn it in in January to that 0:08:06.040 --> 0:08:09.200 nineteen and then hopefully we'll get another jum release or something. 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:12.040 There's just a lot of people on Universal. There's a 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:14.480 lot of Yeah, because a lot of people putting out artists, 0:08:14.480 --> 0:08:16.680 I would say, putting out records. What that means is 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:19.800 your record label. How they have a lot of people 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:25.040 to put time and effort into investment, both money time promotion. 0:08:25.520 --> 0:08:27.800 They can't just throw them all out. They're looking for 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:32.520 the fair slot. But basically and be almost three years. Yeah, 0:08:32.559 --> 0:08:34.880 it's crazy. I'll say this though. I know for you 0:08:35.000 --> 0:08:37.640 that it's felt like a long process because you were 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:41.120 in on the creation of this record. You were in 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:44.679 on the curating of the tracks and what to put on, 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:47.160 what to sing, you were in on the promotion. So 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:50.120 it's probably felt much longer for me, someone who actually 0:08:50.160 --> 0:08:52.679 enjoys the record. I'm surprised it's been out two years 0:08:52.720 --> 0:08:54.320 and I've enjoyed the record since it come And I 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:55.880 told you that when it come out, and said, wow, man, 0:08:55.920 --> 0:09:00.320 this thing sounds progressive but still still uh contemporary tree. 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:04.400 It doesn't feel as tired as you probably feel of 0:09:04.600 --> 0:09:07.400 just playing the same songs. Well, were sorry, I'm not 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:09.800 overdriving this. We we get a lot of feedback and 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:12.360 it's not I mean, of course fans want new music, 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:14.680 but there's not like a super demand like they're like 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:17.080 still rocking still and you know that and a lot 0:09:17.120 --> 0:09:19.200 of fans were happy the Night Shift was gonna be 0:09:19.240 --> 0:09:23.000 on the radio, and uh, when it comes on the radio, 0:09:23.080 --> 0:09:25.800 you know, it gives it's it's rocking and it it 0:09:25.880 --> 0:09:28.600 feels good. And I think it's got a good spot 0:09:28.920 --> 0:09:31.120 to have that kind of feel on the radio right now. 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:33.080 I like it. I wouldn't say I did. I would 0:09:33.080 --> 0:09:35.240 just ignore it. If I didn't like it, I just 0:09:35.280 --> 0:09:37.679 ignore it and not even not even do it. So 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:42.240 what is your your quintessential Nashville story? And everybody's got one, like, well, 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:43.760 what what was the moment for you where it kind 0:09:43.800 --> 0:09:46.800 of went all I gotta go? And then what's the 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:48.959 story off you're getting to Nashville to actually pursue with 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:56.319 the career that you're in now mm hmm, well, let's see. 0:09:56.720 --> 0:09:59.960 I mean there's a lot before Nashville. When was it Okay, 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:03.120 so you start making music in California about what age 0:10:03.160 --> 0:10:05.280 when you start actually performing and making some money and 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:09.680 thinking okay, maybe I could do something musically. Well, I 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:11.760 have a first band of fourteen and we played the 0:10:11.800 --> 0:10:15.480 Dickson Mayfair and you know, like during its kind of 0:10:15.520 --> 0:10:20.119 like rock and roll punkish, kind of like the rebellion 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:23.920 from being growing up singing out Jackson and George Strait 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:27.000 and we're you still doing some like Nirvana. And in 0:10:27.080 --> 0:10:30.680 the nineties we we we did, you know, we were 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:33.000 in the linear skinnered phase and like you know, some 0:10:33.040 --> 0:10:36.760 classic rock and Tom Petty lots of Tom Petty um 0:10:36.880 --> 0:10:39.280 mom my friends jammed out like Rage against Machine and 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:42.040 Nirvana and you know, like Blink Blink went a two 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:44.560 and Green Day were huge at a time, and and 0:10:44.760 --> 0:10:48.200 uh and I kind of took that one when you 0:10:48.200 --> 0:10:50.520 ask the question when you start like playing for real 0:10:50.720 --> 0:10:53.440 and kind of making tips and stuff eighteen but I 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:56.040 was singing country again, but I had this like kind 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:59.640 of fast rock and roll vibe to it. And then 0:10:59.800 --> 0:11:03.000 when to a place called Chico, California, and has a 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:05.520 college They're called Chico State, and it is like party down, 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:09.120 good time and formed a country band and learned and 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:10.640 I had a mandalin player and he kind of taught 0:11:10.640 --> 0:11:12.800 me a lot about blue grass, and so we had 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:15.280 this up about eighteen years old here I was a 0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:20.319 nineteen ninety basically that lasted nineteen to twenty two. And 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:24.120 then after that I moved to Nashville, and uh, I 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:25.920 was new. I wanted to move in Nashville. I took 0:11:25.960 --> 0:11:28.480 some trips out kind of you know, realize that mash 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:31.160 should probably be twenty one so I can get into 0:11:31.200 --> 0:11:34.360 the bars, you know, like hang out and like get 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:36.800 up and do a microphone you get there's still places 0:11:37.280 --> 0:11:38.800 you can play it back into that out and eight 0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:40.760 you know, either that way may not. I moved here 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:43.600 with an atlas, like I didn't have GPS on my phone, 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:46.520 Like it's still kind of it was. It seems so 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:50.320 like really did you have a horse and a buggy? 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:54.560 And it seems like it's so long ago, like what 0:11:54.600 --> 0:11:56.679 would you do without your GPS now? But that we're 0:11:56.720 --> 0:11:58.320 back in the day. We had maps and it was 0:11:58.320 --> 0:12:03.040 pretty easy. Three three high ways and what's that drive? 0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:09.000 What's that drive? Like? Three days? Um, three days of excitement, 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:11.920 you know, twenty two was excited, like I'm doing it. 0:12:12.840 --> 0:12:15.160 My mom was sad. My dad was like, go get 0:12:15.160 --> 0:12:20.000 a job, you like trying to he's such a worker. Um, 0:12:20.080 --> 0:12:22.320 but he you know, my dad, everybody pushed me to 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:24.760 go to Nashville. You know, they always said it ain't 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:29.640 gonna happen here, you know, And so saved up some 0:12:29.679 --> 0:12:31.720 money when I was working for my dad, and I 0:12:31.760 --> 0:12:33.520 got my dog in a p A system and I 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:36.920 drove to Nashville, found a place to live and and 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:39.480 was on the ground, you know, kind of hanging out. 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:42.920 And you drove three days three three and a half. 0:12:42.920 --> 0:12:45.079 I think, so you and your dog, you're sleep in 0:12:45.120 --> 0:12:48.760 the truck. You stop at hotels that we accepted dogs. Mm, 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:54.000 we'd he'd stay in the truck because sometimes I'm sneaking in, 0:12:54.040 --> 0:12:56.160 but we had you know, he had guitars and stuff 0:12:56.200 --> 0:12:59.160 back there, and he like he wasn't the dog that 0:12:59.200 --> 0:13:02.600 you wanted to open in the campershill people are like 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:07.400 he would buy you and he's scary, and uh so 0:13:07.440 --> 0:13:09.440 he kind of and he was fine staying in the truck. 0:13:10.440 --> 0:13:12.760 So how do you get a place to live? Like 0:13:12.800 --> 0:13:15.160 if you're coming from California, northern California or so, and 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:17.200 you gotta find a place to live. But well, what 0:13:17.320 --> 0:13:19.319 came a couple of trips that I've I've come out, 0:13:19.360 --> 0:13:22.160 you know, like you can easily network and you know, 0:13:22.559 --> 0:13:24.680 kind of meet people. And I just did that and 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:26.360 I was, you know, I was excited. I don't live 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:27.960 within you know, when you're twenty two, you live in 0:13:27.960 --> 0:13:31.120 a of a bathroom. You know, if if you had, 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:34.040 if it was cheap enough to you know, provide and 0:13:34.240 --> 0:13:36.320 and a lot of those people I don't even don't 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:38.679 talk to anymore, like that, that phase where it's just 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:42.439 you know, kind of starting at the bottom, I mean 0:13:42.480 --> 0:13:46.920 the bottom learning learning the town, learning learning how it 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:49.160 was back in the day. I mean it's totally different. 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:52.480 Now you move here, you're twenty two, you're moving with 0:13:52.480 --> 0:13:55.760 the roommate or two. Yeah, how do you start meaning 0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:59.200 if you get here, you met a few people on 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:00.679 some trips where you kind check it out, But how 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:04.160 do you start making a life in music? What's the 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:09.080 first thing that you do? Well? I had songs I've 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:13.040 written in Northern California with my band called Northern Comfort 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:16.680 Shoutout during the Comfort. That were fun, they were upbeat, 0:14:16.720 --> 0:14:19.080 they were different, you know, and so I always had 0:14:19.120 --> 0:14:22.120 that in my back pocket, never like really even shared that. 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:25.120 But I just go out and mingle. I got a 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:28.960 job as a lifeguard, and uh, and after school counselor 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:36.320 that kind of help me get by, and um and 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:39.240 and and uh. I gotta back up before really getting 0:14:39.240 --> 0:14:42.640 down to the nitty gritty of how I survived the 0:14:42.760 --> 0:14:48.800 long hair days. Um So, in my neighborhood, while I 0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:51.480 was living in the basement, there was a townhouse that 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:55.640 you can get with no payment down. Yeah, and my 0:14:55.720 --> 0:14:58.080 mom was like, she was, I'll co signed with it. 0:14:58.080 --> 0:15:01.000 It wasn't you know, going from cow California in Nashville. 0:15:01.480 --> 0:15:05.040 That townhouse wasn't too bad. But I had like four 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:07.960 rooms and their two and a half bathrooms. It was 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:11.000 like I could totally rent this out. And like I 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:13.600 literally rented every room at the house. And I that 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:16.920 was I was paying my mortgage and I was playing 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:19.640 and I had my little life guarden job. But I 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:23.920 didn't um you know, through Mangland basically and kind of 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:25.800 getting that one shot to get up there and play 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:29.400 a song that at the time, you know, everybody kind 0:15:29.400 --> 0:15:31.400 of liked and it was fun and we get like 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:34.600 get and play that song again. And that kind of 0:15:34.640 --> 0:15:38.440 happened in place called Losers and that was kind of 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:42.720 like my home and I ended up playing substituting, you know, 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:44.800 the guy couldn't make a gig, They'd call me, come 0:15:44.840 --> 0:15:46.760 play four hours. I knew a bunch of covers because 0:15:46.800 --> 0:15:49.920 we played in covers. And we played for four hours 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:52.680 in northern California, like we were you know. We started 0:15:52.760 --> 0:15:56.240 tending and we ended it too, So I was like, 0:15:56.360 --> 0:15:57.960 I can do that, man, I can do that. So 0:15:58.040 --> 0:16:01.920 we just kind of did that for two years, and 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:05.800 I landed through mingling and taking songs with publishers. And 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:10.120 I knew Bart, my co producer. Now I kind of 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:16.520 knew him, and he would sometimes answer my phone calls. 0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:18.560 I always make that a joke. Now he answered my 0:16:18.600 --> 0:16:20.640 phone calls. But he kind of set me up. We 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:22.680 in with some people and and and just kind of 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:25.360 climb the ladder. This is an old school way, like 0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:29.960 shaking hands. You know, I'm John, Yeah, I'm a songwriter. Yeah. 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:32.280 I kind of focused on songwriting. I didn't want to 0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:34.680 go play downtown. You didn't want to go play that 0:16:34.720 --> 0:16:36.800 Broadway where all the more? Right? No, I was I 0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:38.800 did that. You know, I got that I need to 0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:41.600 learn how to write, Like what how does Nashville right? 0:16:41.680 --> 0:16:44.360 How can I put? How could I fit into this 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:49.440 this system that that there, it's obviously songwriters, you know, 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:52.320 and really focused on that and got a publishing deal 0:16:52.400 --> 0:16:55.240 and then got some songs and you know how to 0:16:55.240 --> 0:16:57.240 show you know, started doing. We got enough songs for 0:16:57.320 --> 0:17:02.440 a showcase. Three showcases in I got signed by UM 0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:06.480 Capitol Records with handshake deal what's kind of like, And 0:17:06.520 --> 0:17:08.960 it took a year to sign. The contract was two 0:17:08.960 --> 0:17:12.359 down eleven. We got signed, and then they're like, your 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:16.040 first single comes out in two down twelve, so there's 0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:18.600 another year. So two years and I just kept writing 0:17:18.600 --> 0:17:21.359 and writing and writing and recording songs, even demos and 0:17:21.400 --> 0:17:25.000 kind of learning, learning, and then you know, that felt 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:27.600 like forever though, like from the moment that your handshakes signed, 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:31.720 you're excited and you got your wait two years for 0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:33.280 your first song to come out. I bet that was 0:17:33.680 --> 0:17:35.399 I felt like a slow two years to get that 0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:38.159 first thing out there. Well, I mean, we had a 0:17:38.160 --> 0:17:41.800 great book and agent, and we had a lot of 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:44.679 we had a lot of through showcase. I found a 0:17:44.720 --> 0:17:46.960 band and we had a van, and we learned the 0:17:47.000 --> 0:17:50.280 South and there was a lot of places that we 0:17:50.440 --> 0:17:53.520 still talk about playing and like a lot of guys 0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:55.760 that are still I see all the time that that 0:17:55.840 --> 0:17:57.639 gave us a shot because we could play cover. If 0:17:57.680 --> 0:17:59.360 we could do this, you know, we could we could 0:17:59.520 --> 0:18:01.919 play for three hours. You know, I have no problem 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:06.760 with me throwing some originals. Make eight hundred bucks, you know, 0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:10.479 max out your credit card, hopping a van and go 0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:12.399 you know in the van. It's great. That's why not 0:18:12.720 --> 0:18:16.360 white Everyways asked why is music in Nashville, Well, it's 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:19.479 it's easy for a van to get around really when 0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:21.320 it comes down to because back in the day was 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:24.440 built for Cadillacs to get around. So we I mean, 0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:26.240 the van was really hard to keep up with the 0:18:26.280 --> 0:18:28.000 tour bus. Let me tell you that was like play 0:18:28.000 --> 0:18:30.800 a show, getting a van, drive for five hours, sleeping 0:18:30.840 --> 0:18:32.560 a hotel, wake up early to go keep you know, 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:36.480 trying to trying to catch up. But um, we were 0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:38.800 always playing. I was always writing, so it just and 0:18:38.880 --> 0:18:42.200 everything was new. You know, I wasn't from the South. 0:18:43.080 --> 0:18:46.680 I learned what college football was all about because back 0:18:46.680 --> 0:18:48.879 in the West it's not as huge as this year. Like, 0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:51.520 so I was learning all this stuff. I was making 0:18:51.520 --> 0:18:54.320 new friends and and of course you know I had 0:18:54.359 --> 0:18:56.359 a record deal. But you know, one day, it was 0:18:56.359 --> 0:18:59.639 always one day. It's still always one day, but just 0:18:59.760 --> 0:19:02.919 kept don't grind, and kept on believing still always one day. 0:19:02.960 --> 0:19:05.399 You're right about that, It's still always one day for 0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:07.399 all of us. We y. I try to do a 0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:11.600 better job now and not always looking for one day 0:19:11.760 --> 0:19:14.080 when one day this next thing is gonna happen one 0:19:14.160 --> 0:19:16.520 day this next you know, I try. 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