1 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: Our world is full of the unexplainable, and if history 2 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: is an open book, all of these amazing tales are 3 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: right there on display, just waiting for us to explore. 4 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Cabinet of Curiosities. Charlie grew up with 5 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: an eye for the other world. As a child, his 6 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: favorite nanny would entertain him for hours with eerie, dramatic 7 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: tales of ghosts and monsters and things that go bump 8 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: in the night. And these stories left their mark on him, 9 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: a mark that would be visible for the rest of 10 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 1: his life. Later on, as an adult, he would profess 11 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: no interest in the supernatural world, and yet those ghosts 12 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: seemed to follow him around and haunt him. Once, on 13 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: New Year's Eve in eighteen sixty three, he came face 14 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: to face with those forces during a game with his children. 15 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: They had built an elaborate set of wooden rods in 16 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 1: black fabric, but something about it troubled Charlie. A few 17 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: days before, he had been at the funeral of a 18 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 1: dear friend, and maybe it was all that black cloth 19 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: or the shape of the shadows on the wall, but 20 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 1: something about that game reminded him of that somber gathering. 21 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: Then again, perhaps Charlie was ignoring the spirit world he 22 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: had grown up so aware of, because the following month, 23 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 1: terrible news reached his home. Charlie's son, Walter, it seems, 24 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 1: had passed away while serving with the British military and India. 25 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: It had taken a long while for the news to 26 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: reach him. Though the date of his son's death was 27 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: New Year's Eve eighteen sixty three, there were other moments 28 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: that brought the world beyond the veil a little closer 29 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: to Charlie's life. Once, in eighteen fifty one, he stood 30 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:55,559 Speaker 1: nearby as his father was operated on to remove kidney stones. 31 00:01:56,200 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: The procedure failed, and Charlie's father died soon after. A 32 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: short while later, Charlie awoke in the middle of the 33 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: night and swore he saw the figure of his father 34 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: sitting at the foot of his bed. He once claimed 35 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: that the spirit of his wife's sister, a woman he 36 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: had loved deeply before she died at a young age, 37 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: actually followed him around for a while. Charlie claimed that 38 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: she would be fully visible to him, but no one 39 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: else could see or hear her. The spirit world, it seems, 40 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: was a tricky realm. Few had the experiences that Charlie claimed, 41 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 1: and while he might not have sought it out, he 42 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: seems to have had an open mind about it all. 43 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: It's true Charlie did grow out of his passion for 44 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: the other world, but the spirits never really gave up 45 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: on him. His adulthood was filled with great success and 46 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: punctuated from time to time with these ghostly moments. From 47 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,959 Speaker 1: what I can tell, they did much to influence everything 48 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: he went on to create. Charlie was a writer, you see, 49 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: and a writer who frequently allowed ghost story used to 50 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: slip into his creations. While he's mostly known for the 51 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: tales without them, he wrote at least twenty ghostly tales 52 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: during his six decades behind the desk, and we're grateful 53 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: for all of them because Charlie's ability to see through 54 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 1: the veil and into the world beyond our own has 55 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: brought us wonderful moments of entertainment that are still with 56 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: us over a century and a half later. Just who 57 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: was this writer born with a knack for seeing the 58 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: things that most of us are completely blind to. He 59 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: was a literary giant, a champion of serial publication, and 60 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: the creator of some of the most beloved characters in 61 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: English literature. Without him, we wouldn't have one of the 62 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: most famous ghosts of all, the Ghost of Christmas Past. 63 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: Let's all be thankful that Charles Dickens had an open mind. 64 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: There's a narrow strip of sea off the coast of 65 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: Wales called the Manet Straight. It cuts through the land there, 66 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: separating the mainland from the island of Anglesey. Thanks to 67 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: the way the tides flow through the straight, shipwrecks are 68 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 1: much more common there than other areas along the coast, 69 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: and shipwrecks have a way of leaving debris for us 70 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: to find, like wood and cloth and stories. In December 71 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: of sixteen sixty four, a large boat containing eight one 72 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: passengers was crossing the Straight when the tide rushed in 73 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 1: and capsized them. Out of the entire list of passengers, 74 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 1: only one person managed to survive and swim to shore, 75 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: a man named Hugh Williams. Over twenty years later, another 76 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 1: boat was crossing the straight, this time with sixty people 77 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: on board. It was December, again, a season known for 78 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 1: its bad weather, so it shouldn't surprise us that a 79 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: storm blew in and capsized this boat as well. Everyone 80 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: on the ship perished in that accident, everyone that is, 81 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 1: except one man. His name was Hugh Williams. Thirty five 82 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: years later, in eighteen twenty, a third boat capsized while 83 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: crossing the Strait. According to the reports, there were twenty 84 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: five people on board, and all but one of them died. 85 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: I'm wondering if you can guess his name at this point. 86 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: That's right, Hugh Williams. It's one of those stories that 87 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: makes you scratch your head. How can three shipwrecks happen 88 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 1: over the span of a century and a half in 89 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: the very same location, and each of them have a 90 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: single survivor who share the same name. It's too good 91 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: to be true in a sense, poetic and coincidental, and 92 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: seemingly scripted by fate herself. But there are good reasons 93 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: why we shouldn't be surprised. For one, the Strait is 94 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: infamous for the number of shipwrecks that occur there, and 95 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 1: that means between sixteen sixty four and eighteen twenty there 96 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: were a lot more accidents than just the three involving 97 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 1: Hugh Williams. Dozens of ships went down in those waters, 98 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 1: perhaps hundreds, making the coincidence a bit less odd. Yes, 99 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: it's odd that there was only one survivor in each 100 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,239 Speaker 1: of these tales, but that's not uncommon either. In fact, 101 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: another boat sank in the same place in eighteen forty two, 102 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: taking fourteen souls with it and leaving one man alive. 103 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: His name, though, was Richard Thomas, not Hugh Williams. It 104 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: might also be helpful to know that the name Hugh 105 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: Williams was incredibly common in Wales. Is it extraordinary so 106 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 1: many of the soul survivors shared the same name, Sure, 107 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: but it's not the work of something supernatural, just the 108 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: laws of probability working in their favor. Sometimes people survive, 109 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: and given enough instances, common names are going to appear 110 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: on the list more often. The story changed a century 111 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 1: or so later. Time has a way of doing that, 112 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: of course. On light tenth of nineteen forty, while cruising 113 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 1: through the Straight, a fishing boat struck a German mind 114 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 1: the detonation toward the ship apart, taking the lives of 115 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: everyone on board. Everyone that is, except for two men, 116 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: not one, but two. The older of the pair was 117 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: named Hugh Williams, as you were probably guessing. But it's 118 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,679 Speaker 1: the other name, the man's nephew. In fact, that should 119 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: surprise you, his name was also Hugh Williams. I hope 120 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: you've enjoyed today's guided tour of the Cabinet of Curiosities. 121 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: Subscribe for free on Apple Podcasts, or learn more about 122 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: the show by visiting Curiosities podcast dot com. The show 123 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: was created by me Aaron Manky in partnership with how 124 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: Stuff Works. I make another award winning show called Lore, 125 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: which is a podcast, book series, and television show, and 126 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: you can learn all about it over at the World 127 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: of Lore dot com. 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