WEBVTT - Episode 42: The Legend of Zelda Franchise 0:00:09.039 --> 0:00:15.040 Hello, Hello, Hello, welcome to another edition of Nerdificent. I 0:00:15.080 --> 0:00:18.320 am one of your hosts, and Frnanda isn't sitting across 0:00:18.400 --> 0:00:20.640 for me as always. Hey, what's up? It's if you 0:00:20.720 --> 0:00:25.320 were anyway, you know that voice you hear sometimes in ears. 0:00:25.760 --> 0:00:29.000 I think you've been on every episode every would be 0:00:29.040 --> 0:00:32.159 every time, every time. I am here every time. And 0:00:32.200 --> 0:00:35.600 we're joined up top by the creator of geek Bomb, 0:00:35.800 --> 0:00:40.360 Maud Garrett. Okay, hey you, I asked. So we're talking 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:45.160 about Legend of Zelda, and you not only have a 0:00:45.240 --> 0:00:47.640 tattoo right I'm looking at it right now, but your 0:00:47.760 --> 0:00:52.600 dog's name is Zelda. Yeah. But I I like this game, well, 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:56.200 I like this franchise. I particularly like one game. There's 0:00:56.200 --> 0:01:00.920 a lot of history with this game and myself. But yeah, 0:01:00.920 --> 0:01:02.520 I look at into it. It's like, there's a lot 0:01:02.560 --> 0:01:05.479 of reasons why this is really powerful. But the trifloced 0:01:05.480 --> 0:01:08.560 tattoo on my finger here represents power, courage, and wisdom, 0:01:08.680 --> 0:01:12.000 and I kind of think and the reasoning behind it 0:01:12.040 --> 0:01:14.080 is that you can't just have one. You need all 0:01:14.120 --> 0:01:16.959 of them to have that complete harmony. And I can't 0:01:16.959 --> 0:01:19.080 of really dig that. So I got that tattoo because 0:01:19.080 --> 0:01:20.880 I believed in it, and it's so funny how many 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:24.640 people think it's the illuminati. It's an instant way to 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:26.560 kind of know who I want to have a conversation 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:29.679 with and I never want to speak to again. Is 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:33.080 that the Is that the illuminate? And I'm like, well, 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:36.480 it's the illumin naughty and off I go. And I 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:39.160 called my dog's elder, so I wouldn't call my daughter's elda. 0:01:39.400 --> 0:01:41.400 That's so funny. That's why I call in a different way. 0:01:41.440 --> 0:01:44.760 But that's why I called Molly my dog Molly because 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:46.920 I don't know why, but back when I was when 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:49.400 I got her, when I was eighteen, I wanted my 0:01:49.480 --> 0:01:51.520 daughter to be named Maddie and I was like, well, 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:54.760 I can't call her Maddie, so I'll call her Molly. Yeah, 0:01:54.840 --> 0:01:58.200 it works. So I called my dog Zelda because I 0:01:58.240 --> 0:02:02.960 rescued a princess. Wow. Wow, mad is very proud of herself. 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:08.160 You can't see it. It's funny because I listened to 0:02:08.200 --> 0:02:12.239 the read and kid furious dog name is Link. So oh, 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:17.160 y'all need to get together. He's the missing link. Yeah, 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:21.240 waiting waiting a come together. But I like this selder 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:23.360 in this franchise because she's the one princess that doesn't 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:26.160 necessarily need to be rescued. She kind of rescues herself 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:29.000 and she lays down some game plan as well. So 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:33.440 she's a kick ass princess and I respect that. On 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:39.079 the other hand, you know, you cookie, she can pull 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:42.600 her weight sometimes and Mario Kart's getting better. And then 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:46.600 there was the Princess Peach series two, I mean not series, 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:49.960 but one off game. Let me see what it was called, 0:02:50.000 --> 0:02:53.160 but she was she was I think in that one 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:58.320 she saves Mario like that switched it up. He gets 0:02:58.320 --> 0:03:00.040 followed by a toilet because he actually went to a 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:03.280 job and did some Plus it was called Super Princess Peach, 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:07.160 That's what it was, and it was it was a 0:03:07.200 --> 0:03:08.919 lot of people dug it, they should do it more. 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:13.119 It was a d S game. Yeah, oh yeah, well 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:17.519 excuse me, princess, because this is this we're talking about. 0:03:17.560 --> 0:03:20.639 Legend of Zelda. Yeah. For people that don't know, we're 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:22.880 just going to hop right into it. It is. The 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:26.160 Legend of Zelda is an action adventure video game franchise 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:30.840 created by Japanese game designers Sugaru Miamoto and Takahashi Tezuka. 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:34.480 It is primarily developed and published by Nintendo, although some 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:39.160 portable installments and re releases have been outsourced to Capcom, 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:43.640 Vampole and grizz Oh So. The series gameplay incorporates elements 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:48.080 of action, adventure and puzzle solving games. Yeah and Uh. 0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:51.160 The reason many people end up calling the main character 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:55.200 Zelda instead of Link is because even though it is 0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:58.640 titled The Legend of Zelda, the series centers on Link, 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:02.440 which is an alpha player character and most of the 0:04:02.480 --> 0:04:05.160 protagonists of most of the games. Link is often given 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:08.240 the task of rescuing Princess Selda and the Uh in 0:04:08.320 --> 0:04:11.520 the Kingdom of High Rule from Gannon and evil warlord 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:14.560 turned demon, who was the principal antagonist of the series. 0:04:14.960 --> 0:04:19.520 But you know, in other settings there have been other antagonists. 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:22.280 And if there's what was that one High Rule Adventures, 0:04:22.279 --> 0:04:25.599 I think where they team where you play uh and 0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:29.560 you team up, and I think you can play as Gannon. Right, 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:34.320 we see the warriors, Yeah, that can slash that had 0:04:34.360 --> 0:04:37.039 absolutely no story premise. It was literally just enemies running 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:39.120 at you and you were doing big moves. Oh yeah, 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:44.919 getting it in a Selda game, because like you said 0:04:44.920 --> 0:04:47.000 there there. I think that they're an adventure game first 0:04:47.000 --> 0:04:49.720 and foremost UM, and they do a great thing where 0:04:49.720 --> 0:04:52.120 there's an open, rich world and with high roll, but 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:55.279 there's like little divisions through there, so fire amount or 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:59.440 death Mountain m and then you've got um actual Hiral 0:04:59.480 --> 0:05:01.560 castle and you go into these little stages I guess 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:04.240 you could say, and you sort of like travert your 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:05.880 way through it and then unlock it and then you 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:08.560 obtain an item or something that you needed to then 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:11.679 move on to the next thing. It's a pretty linear game, 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:14.480 but I love the fact that it's it's got enough 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:20.560 with story unlocking different dungeons, slash items and weapons, um, 0:05:20.640 --> 0:05:22.400 and then going through the main storyline and then having 0:05:22.440 --> 0:05:26.159 puzzles as well. And I'm looking with different songs and abilities. Guys. 0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:27.960 It's such a good game. But that's only one of them. 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:31.440 What was your first introduction? Legend of zeld O Curator 0:05:31.480 --> 0:05:35.039 of Time eight, This cool cat going Nintendo CC four 0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:38.599 for Christmas. And I started off that Christmas as a 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:41.800 no one and I ended it as a someone. And 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:44.440 that was the best thing that happened to me because 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:47.400 I've got two older brothers and with any other console 0:05:47.480 --> 0:05:51.680 before that two controllers, so I was a professional spectator 0:05:52.760 --> 0:05:56.760 with four controllers whole man. I got involved and I 0:05:56.800 --> 0:05:59.000 didn't have to miss out. But of course Legend is 0:05:59.000 --> 0:06:03.280 the one player game. Um. I rented the game from 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:05.799 the video store and I had one week to finish 0:06:05.839 --> 0:06:08.799 this game. So with that you then buy the Nintendo 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:11.920 magazine with the walkthroughs and hints and the guy that's 0:06:11.960 --> 0:06:14.839 so old school. I mean I was no I remember 0:06:14.839 --> 0:06:19.320 it but eleven when this was all happening, I was eleven, um, 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:22.640 and it was like, you know, technically wasn't me. It 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:27.000 was a blonde protagonist, but you know, from behind, yeah, 0:06:27.640 --> 0:06:29.599 kind of could be a girl. And I was like, yeah, 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:32.400 I'm identifying here. It's got a little very cool. There's 0:06:32.440 --> 0:06:35.600 a princess. Awesome. But everything about this game is just 0:06:35.640 --> 0:06:40.080 an over like wash of emotions. The soundtrack was beautiful, 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:43.239 the vision like the look of it. This was when 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:46.800 Nintendo sixty four was able to do the three D effect. Um, 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:49.560 so like being able to run through the this this 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:54.480 world of Hyrall was amazing. Um just I loved it. 0:06:54.560 --> 0:06:58.080 I think it really is a perfect game. Yeah yeah, 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:01.479 I mean one of the things is to uh is 0:07:01.560 --> 0:07:05.200 that Zelda is also a series one of the most 0:07:05.279 --> 0:07:09.200 convoluted storylines there is pre gain in there is uh 0:07:09.240 --> 0:07:13.520 there is a like if Link wins the Great Battle timeline, 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:17.440 there's if Link loses the Battle timeline, and that's why 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:20.320 it spawns off. So it isn't even in any order, 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:25.160 which I think also made it as enticing because that 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:27.880 means that there wasn't an order you have to go 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:31.280 back in, like, for example, a game like Valkyrie Chronicles 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:34.600 where someone's like, oh, well, you gotta try one and 0:07:34.640 --> 0:07:37.280 then uh, then two, but three is a spinoff and 0:07:37.360 --> 0:07:39.440 you you gotta play four, but you can play four 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:41.840 because it's a prequel and then go back and play 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:44.960 one and two, or like Kingdom Hearts, where we've been 0:07:44.960 --> 0:07:49.000 waiting longer than some people have lived for this U 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:53.240 where like you could just pick up a zella for example, uh, 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:55.880 the I'm currently playing Breath of the Wild. I'll never 0:07:55.920 --> 0:07:59.679 played Acarina of Time and the no I only played 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:04.000 linked a Past, which is arguably the best uh Zelda 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:07.840 in the franchise. UM. But then you have four Swords, 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:11.160 which I did rock because that was right when I 0:08:11.240 --> 0:08:14.640 was like in high school, and so four Swords was 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:17.640 the one where you could yeah and you link up 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:22.360 and you four people played the four split you link up. Okay, 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:27.560 y'all are dorks, Yes I am, but yeah. So we 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:30.720 would bring it into school and jack In and all 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:33.520 of us would play and just try and get as 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:38.360 far as we can. So that's that's it's it's it's 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:41.720 so crazy because they're all like sometimes they connect, but 0:08:41.800 --> 0:08:45.760 it's all just the not not so much like Final Fantasy, 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:48.320 where there's new characters every single time. This ins with 0:08:48.400 --> 0:08:53.840 having like the protagonist, the world, um, the Goddesses, I guess, 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:58.040 the Try Force and then Gannon um. But even the 0:08:58.040 --> 0:09:02.680 the graphics and the animation have been so different. I 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:04.800 feel like there's only been sort of like two or 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:07.520 three games at a time that have had like consistency, 0:09:07.559 --> 0:09:09.600 and then they just completely pivot and try something else. 0:09:10.040 --> 0:09:12.360 For me, like playing Oker in Time and then Majora's 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:14.000 Mask going oh, I know what a Zelda game is, 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:16.280 Now this is great, and then sitting down on the 0:09:16.280 --> 0:09:20.920 game Cube and playing Windwaker where it's in this different timeline. 0:09:20.960 --> 0:09:22.920 I think it's like hundreds of years down the track 0:09:23.000 --> 0:09:25.599 after the big Battle of Hyrall with Lincoln Gannon and 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:31.040 it's not even Zelda. Yeah, Tetra. What's crazy too is 0:09:31.160 --> 0:09:34.160 that has that caused like a lot of animosity just 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:36.720 the design styles work. I didn't love some people like 0:09:36.840 --> 0:09:39.640 Skywoard Sword because it was a more realistic but then 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:43.120 when you get into wind Waker, they're like, guess two cartoony. 0:09:43.280 --> 0:09:46.560 It was really kitty and the you know, I feel 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:50.400 like the enemies were like want want walking around and 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:52.880 it just it felt it wasn't great. But then you 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:57.160 get into it and the storyline and like unlocking a 0:09:57.320 --> 0:10:01.080 map through the ocean on this ship um and having 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:03.600 like that grid formation was just so different to any 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:06.040 other Zelda game that would say, And I was like, 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:09.480 this is great. I really loved exploring this map um 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:12.160 and being an adventurer like that. But you're right, like 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:14.480 the animation, I was just like, I'm not loving it. 0:10:14.600 --> 0:10:16.040 And that's why I feel like Breath of the Wild 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:17.520 is so great because it's got a little bit of 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:20.480 that cartoon in it, but it's still got that. Yeah, 0:10:20.600 --> 0:10:22.080 They've done a really good job of kind of like 0:10:22.120 --> 0:10:24.760 melding it all together. I wanted to talk about some 0:10:24.840 --> 0:10:27.920 of the how the original legend of Zelda came to 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:31.400 be like some of the inspiration behind it. So Miamoto 0:10:31.559 --> 0:10:35.079 actually was inspired by his explorations as a young boy 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:39.280 when he would go on the hillsides and forests and 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:43.440 caves surrounding his childhood home um where he ventured into 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:47.000 forest with secluded lakes caves in rural villages. I actually 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:50.080 this also does sound like my childhood where I would 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:53.360 just take off for hours on end and disappear. Isn't 0:10:53.400 --> 0:10:55.400 that crazy that we used to do that? Yeah? I 0:10:55.440 --> 0:10:57.200 remember one time I did it with my friend. We 0:10:57.240 --> 0:10:59.360 went going, we went through the forest and then came 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:02.200 back a few hours later. She got walloped by him 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:04.080 mom because she was like, Hi, dare you go off? 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:05.719 And my Mom's like, what did you get? What'd you 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:08.599 get up to? What'd you say? I explored in this 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:12.120 poll girls and tears. Oh my gosh. I remember once 0:11:12.160 --> 0:11:14.280 like this kid. We were like hopping a fence and 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:16.320 this kid like cut open his leg. It was like 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:18.040 on these things that like you weren't supposed to do 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:20.640 when you were younger. Another one was like this abandoned 0:11:20.640 --> 0:11:23.240 house that we went into, like we had a good 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:25.240 chance of there being a haunted clown in there. That 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:33.200 was going to eat us, you know, yeah, um So. 0:11:34.480 --> 0:11:38.280 According to Miyamoto, one of his most memorable experiences was 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:40.440 the discovery of a cave entrance in the middle of 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:45.800 the woods. Look, this is how true detective starts. Okay um. Anyways, 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:49.880 after some hesitation, he apprehensively entered the cave and explored 0:11:49.920 --> 0:11:53.200 its depth with the aid of a lantern. How long 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:56.960 ago was this? Miamoto has referred to the creation of 0:11:56.960 --> 0:11:59.440 the Zelda games as an attempt to bring to life 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:02.560 a minute your garden for players to play to play 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:05.760 with in each game of the series. And the name 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:11.000 Zelda actually came from novelists f Scott Fitzgerald's wife, whose 0:12:11.040 --> 0:12:14.520 name is Zelda. So Miamoto thought the name sounded pleasant 0:12:14.559 --> 0:12:18.240 and significant, And that's f. Scott Fitzgerald of Great Gatsby 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:21.760 Fame and many other books. Um, and so he paying tribute, 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:24.520 he chose to name the princess after her, entitled it 0:12:24.600 --> 0:12:28.280 the Legend of Zelda. Uh. And then going on with 0:12:28.360 --> 0:12:32.600 what you said, Maud Link and the ferry, we're actually 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:36.240 inspired by Peter Pan and tinker Bell. So Miyamoto noted 0:12:36.280 --> 0:12:38.200 how at the time long ears made you think of 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:40.240 Peter Pan and then you throw in the fact that 0:12:40.280 --> 0:12:42.000 he was also a Disney fan and the team ended 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:45.760 up taking inspiration from those characters, so Takahashi to Zuka 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:49.400 created links design. Yeah, this is gonna be my just 0:12:50.840 --> 0:12:54.640 sidebar about Nintendo because Miomoto outside of Zelda, also has 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:59.920 like a huge influence with He's Yeah, and what's interested 0:13:00.200 --> 0:13:04.000 interesting and cool about that is something you know, as 0:13:04.080 --> 0:13:06.880 like a long time gamer that has always stood out 0:13:06.920 --> 0:13:10.200 about Nintendo is the simple fact that they were They're 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:13.920 never interested in having the best graphics, Like you know, 0:13:14.000 --> 0:13:18.280 that is like a very like Microsoft Sony Xbox versus 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:21.840 PS four contests who has the best graphics? Who's gonna 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:25.000 be in there like an arms race? And Nintendo seems 0:13:25.040 --> 0:13:29.480 so focused on just what is the most fun and 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:32.400 innovative way to play games? And you know, I will 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:35.640 say like when the we came out compared to like 0:13:35.720 --> 0:13:40.440 you know, the PS three and and yeah, it seems 0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:43.400 so silly. But then you see where I tried to 0:13:43.400 --> 0:13:48.040 play Chronicle Chronicle what is it called on the Way, 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:51.520 and I was like, this is PlayStation two graphics. You 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:54.080 don't go on the way to play something like that Chronicle. 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:56.880 You go on there to play tennis, and that's what happened. 0:13:56.960 --> 0:13:59.400 There was so and and they and it was I 0:13:59.400 --> 0:14:01.079 don't know if you're remember, I think it was called 0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:05.160 I know, I'm not crazy. Yes, it was such a 0:14:05.160 --> 0:14:07.160 big deal when mad World came out for the Weed 0:14:07.240 --> 0:14:10.400 because it was their first M rated game, like years 0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:14.679 after it came out. So Ninteno is very family focused, 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:18.240 and so it's so interesting that Miyamoto is such a 0:14:18.280 --> 0:14:21.080 Disney fan because it seems like they have that similarity 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:25.280 where like you know, in the arms Race of like 0:14:25.360 --> 0:14:28.200 you know, cool big robo movies and all this stuff. 0:14:28.440 --> 0:14:31.680 You know, they're their focus is just like family movies. 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:35.080 And also they have the benefit of like having these 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:38.360 other companies to accomplish that, like you know your mirrormax 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:41.720 is and now Marvel. But like it is interesting to 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:45.200 see like a console that is focused on like family 0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:48.600 and innovation and doesn't need to do that you know, 0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:52.040 arms Race, And it's worked out for them we as well, 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:54.640 we did on the Ninteno episode was one of the 0:14:54.680 --> 0:14:58.840 most like high selling consoles, you know, just simply because 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:00.600 of what I shouldn't compete with something that they're never 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:03.440 going to be. And I think that there's gamers come 0:15:03.480 --> 0:15:06.960 in all shapes and sizes, ages, everything. You can't accommodate 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:10.520 to the gamer without kind of like, you know, appealing 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:12.880 to a family. You know, I think, I don't know 0:15:12.960 --> 0:15:14.600 one of my reasons why I don't think Star Wars 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:16.040 is doing so well these days, because you have to 0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:18.760 appeal to an audience from five to fifty five or 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:21.240 even old ninety five really, and I think that, yeah, 0:15:21.280 --> 0:15:24.600 you're right. Nintendo has just gone we're going to rock 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:27.320 kids worlds, and we're going to make games as well 0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:29.800 that adults really enjoy. So it's like you know, your 0:15:29.800 --> 0:15:32.160 Disney movies where everyone gets something out of it, but 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:35.400 it's not necessarily about blood, gore and cool weapons. And 0:15:35.440 --> 0:15:38.280 I don't even necessarily think like that's a hit. Just 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:40.640 the innovation. I mean, this is my last thing and 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:43.320 we'll jump back to it, but just simply the switch 0:15:43.800 --> 0:15:47.280 is so innovative as a console, something that switches from 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:51.320 a hand from a handheld to a console so seamlessly. 0:15:51.760 --> 0:15:53.360 I was just talking about it with a couple of 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:55.640 friends of just how crazy that is, how it does 0:15:55.760 --> 0:15:58.800 feel like the future. I was on an airplane playing 0:15:58.840 --> 0:16:00.720 Breath of the Wild. I haven't Breath of the Wild 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:04.040 because that is my travel game. I'm not Yeah, I'm 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:07.000 not rushing to beat it because it is my playing game. 0:16:07.080 --> 0:16:09.400 It's really good on a big screen. Oh oh no, 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:11.400 I'll do it because I'll bring the dock with me 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:13.920 to a hotel when I'm going to do like shows 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:16.480 and other cities, and so then I dock it and 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:20.080 I'll play it. Uh So it's great. Um for people 0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:22.400 that don't know what Breath of the Wild is that 0:16:22.440 --> 0:16:24.400 are new to it, can you explain? Breath of the 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:29.400 Wild is the latest expansion in the uh Legend of 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:33.320 Zelda franchises, the one that came on the switch. It 0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:37.200 is the last Zelda game that was released, and it 0:16:37.280 --> 0:16:41.640 was extremely innovative because like Mantzet, it's a very linear 0:16:41.720 --> 0:16:45.160 game Legend of Zelda, and Breath of the Wild was 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:48.240 open world for the first time, which you know, for 0:16:48.320 --> 0:16:50.560 better or worse, the world works that way. There are 0:16:50.600 --> 0:16:54.640 certain things where there's like that open weather that changes 0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:56.760 and sometimes it will make it hard, so either you 0:16:56.800 --> 0:16:59.000 want to wait out the weather or you just go 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:02.000 do something else. Um. So, what Breath of the Wild 0:17:02.040 --> 0:17:03.920 really did that We've never seen an a Zelda game 0:17:03.960 --> 0:17:06.200 before is yes, the open world, but they borrowed off 0:17:06.240 --> 0:17:09.560 games like Assassin's Creed, Shadows of War or Shadow of 0:17:09.560 --> 0:17:12.480 Mortal where when you unlock the area, you go up 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:14.800 of giant tower so you can scope out that space 0:17:14.840 --> 0:17:17.080 and then that's the region that you now have access to, 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:20.000 rinse and repeat. But they still do have like the 0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:24.440 main quest where you have to defeat areas. I don't 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:26.160 know if I want to call them dungeons because they're 0:17:26.200 --> 0:17:30.360 not necessarily dungeons at all. The way we see dungeons 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:33.679 is different than the ways that presented it to us 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:37.840 because and this will dive into just a general understanding 0:17:37.920 --> 0:17:40.760 right before we get into characters, which is in Zelda, 0:17:40.880 --> 0:17:43.919 dungeons aren't something like Dark Souls where you fight your 0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:46.320 way to the bottom and you have to fight the 0:17:46.359 --> 0:17:48.880 big boss. There is a big boss. There are enemies. 0:17:49.000 --> 0:17:51.560 But I think one of the key things about Zelda 0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:54.480 dungeons is there is that they're filled with puzzles and 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:57.760 problem solving my goods. And that's also why I just 0:17:57.920 --> 0:18:02.280 never dive that hard into a Zelda series. Puzzles aren't 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:04.159 my strong suit. Till this day, I haven't done an 0:18:04.280 --> 0:18:06.240 escape room because I don't need to be trapped in 0:18:06.280 --> 0:18:08.720 there doing something I'm not good at. It's funny that 0:18:08.760 --> 0:18:11.280 you say that, because, like, I've dusted off the Nintendo 0:18:11.320 --> 0:18:14.119 sixty four, I never played Banjo Kazooe growing up, and 0:18:14.119 --> 0:18:16.680 then you know, getting into that, I'm like, wait, what 0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:19.840 that doesn't seem obvious to me? And I got the 0:18:19.880 --> 0:18:22.600 ex boyframe playing Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time and 0:18:22.600 --> 0:18:25.720 I'm sitting there like the best thing ever, and I 0:18:25.760 --> 0:18:29.640 don't know what to do. I'm like, well, obviously there's 0:18:29.640 --> 0:18:31.560 a stick in the corner, and then you'll realize that 0:18:31.600 --> 0:18:32.880 over there there's a light. Do you have to run 0:18:32.920 --> 0:18:34.520 all the way over there get the light? And then 0:18:34.560 --> 0:18:36.480 you'll notice way back in the corner that there's like 0:18:36.640 --> 0:18:39.080 a spider web over this cave that you couldn't even see. 0:18:39.160 --> 0:18:41.679 You've got to unlock it with the fire And he's like, 0:18:41.760 --> 0:18:44.120 I would never have got that ever. I hate when 0:18:44.119 --> 0:18:47.800 games are deceptively puzzle solving, Like I'm like, just let 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:50.359 me know up front. I was playing this zombie game 0:18:50.520 --> 0:18:52.520 and I thought I was just trying to keep myself alive, 0:18:52.560 --> 0:18:56.680 but nope, how to unlock all these things? Like, oh, 0:18:56.720 --> 0:19:01.440 that's but like I thought was just gonna shoot these zombies. 0:19:01.520 --> 0:19:03.200 I didn't realize that I was shooting these zombies, but 0:19:03.240 --> 0:19:04.679 also had to go into this room and put this 0:19:04.760 --> 0:19:06.520 key in this thing and then like make sure this 0:19:06.560 --> 0:19:10.000 bomb goes off at the Yeah, I know that happened. 0:19:10.080 --> 0:19:13.080 I finally unlocked it after like five tried, but it 0:19:13.160 --> 0:19:17.720 was just insane to Yeah, anyways, just be upfront puzzle games. Yeah, 0:19:18.119 --> 0:19:21.400 that's that's like, that's a familiar looking item that looks 0:19:21.400 --> 0:19:23.280 like we saw it in the last room. Oh thank you, 0:19:23.320 --> 0:19:25.840 I'm gonna get back in the last That's how it is. 0:19:25.840 --> 0:19:28.040 In Breadth of Wild. You have these shrines and so 0:19:28.080 --> 0:19:30.439 they'll have puzzles, but then they have somewhere it's like 0:19:30.480 --> 0:19:32.639 a test or strength and it's just fighting and I'm like, 0:19:32.760 --> 0:19:35.640 thank you. They're the ones I sucked at them. Those 0:19:35.680 --> 0:19:37.200 are the ones that I'm like, I'm about to body 0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:40.439 this dumb and get this. And then there's the one 0:19:40.480 --> 0:19:43.080 where it's like, oh, this was hard to get to shrines, 0:19:43.119 --> 0:19:44.920 so we're just gonna give you everything for free and 0:19:45.040 --> 0:19:49.080 you're like, oh, thank you. But you know that elephant, dude, 0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:52.280 I had to look online to beat that. There's no 0:19:52.680 --> 0:19:55.040 way I would have figured out any of those. It's 0:19:55.240 --> 0:19:57.160 it's a whole thing. But I don't want to spoil 0:19:57.640 --> 0:20:01.120 the trunk in this giant m kind of elephant where 0:20:01.119 --> 0:20:04.160 the dungeon technically inside of it and the water levels changed, 0:20:04.200 --> 0:20:06.440 which is what a temple in Legend of Zelda, which 0:20:06.480 --> 0:20:10.520 is everyone's night man. Anyway, let's go into these main characters, 0:20:10.600 --> 0:20:14.080 because we've been a lot of these names, and you know, 0:20:14.480 --> 0:20:16.560 I think we can just jump right into it. As 0:20:16.600 --> 0:20:18.560 a matter of fact, we'll jump right into it after 0:20:18.600 --> 0:20:26.920 these messages and welcome back. You know. I'm sorry I 0:20:27.359 --> 0:20:30.760 kind of sprung that break on as I was getting 0:20:30.760 --> 0:20:34.200 ready to say what these characters were. I looked behind 0:20:34.280 --> 0:20:35.679 us and I was like, it's about that time, so 0:20:35.800 --> 0:20:40.520 let's do it. But first and foremost, our main character, 0:20:40.840 --> 0:20:45.040 the name we keep saying the most is Link, which 0:20:45.080 --> 0:20:48.480 is the central protagonist of the Legend of Zelda, and 0:20:48.920 --> 0:20:53.640 it's the name of various young men who who wear 0:20:53.680 --> 0:20:56.440 a green tunic and pointed cap. I mean, we can 0:20:56.440 --> 0:20:58.840 get into the various nous about this. I have the 0:20:58.840 --> 0:21:01.120 timeline up that we'll get into before we get into 0:21:01.160 --> 0:21:05.840 specific games. Because they're saying there's because it switches. But 0:21:06.680 --> 0:21:12.040 I mean it seems like it's well, we'll just I honestly, 0:21:12.119 --> 0:21:13.719 if when you said that, I thought you meant like 0:21:14.119 --> 0:21:16.880 people that have been um named that since the game 0:21:16.960 --> 0:21:20.200 came out, a bunch of nerds and their sons Link. 0:21:20.440 --> 0:21:23.040 It's true, there are a bunch of Links like a 0:21:23.160 --> 0:21:28.040 comic con all, that's what I thought you meant. Yeah, 0:21:28.200 --> 0:21:30.560 But in most games, the player can give Link a 0:21:30.600 --> 0:21:33.760 different name before the start of the adventure, and he 0:21:33.800 --> 0:21:39.040 will be referred to by that name. Well, there was, like, 0:21:39.240 --> 0:21:41.879 wasn't there like a cheat if you call if you 0:21:42.320 --> 0:21:44.640