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Speaker 1: This is nick Shot, streaming live on Dallascowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the official Dallas Cowboys at now. Here are Bill Jones,

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Speaker 1: Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola.

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Speaker 3: We are one hundred days away from kickoff in Philadelphia

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Speaker 3: and this is mickshots. Unofficials start to summer. Memorial Day

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Speaker 3: is over and now it's summertime, but school is still

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Speaker 3: in session here. It's Ota Time, Week number two at

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Speaker 3: the Star in FRISCOO.

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Speaker 4: Out the other day, Yes, yep, back guy tomorrow. They

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Speaker 4: go another week after this.

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Speaker 3: Now they're going ten ot A sessions or nine and

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Speaker 3: then nine extra one Yeah, okay nine. So they had

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Speaker 3: three last week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they read this.

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Speaker 3: They went Monday, Tuesday, and Thursday last week. They're going Tuesday,

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Speaker 3: Wednesday and Thursday this week, and then they got three

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Speaker 3: next week and then they got the mandatory mini camp

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Speaker 3: the week after that.

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Speaker 5: Well, I just so you know, I had a business

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Speaker 5: meeting at the Cowboys Club and this short guy comes

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Speaker 5: up to me.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't me, he wasn't that short.

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Speaker 5: No, he's and he said he called me wallpaper because

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Speaker 5: he said I will stick to him.

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Speaker 2: So Kelvin Martin really.

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Speaker 5: Up here with his son to watch the OTA practice.

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Speaker 5: He was up at the Cowboy Club.

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Speaker 3: Kmart's son was a good player for one of the

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Speaker 3: Kellers schools. I can't remember which one. Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 2: The meeting was pretty important.

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Speaker 5: I couldn't break away from him, but man, I hugged him,

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Speaker 5: so I had my arm pit all over his face.

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Speaker 2: What's what's up? But no, man, it was just good

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Speaker 2: to see. He looks good too. Man.

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Speaker 4: He's not sure I'd recognize him.

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Speaker 2: You would.

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Speaker 5: He looks exactly the same, all right, he looks exactly

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Speaker 5: the same.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what happened to his gray hair. It disappeared.

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Speaker 3: Greatest greatest play in Kevin Martin's career was return against

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Speaker 3: right exactly.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 3: Isn't that funny? How that was now thirty four years

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Speaker 3: ago or whatever it was, and that is that's what

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Speaker 3: you remembered by.

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Speaker 5: My daughter said that last night. He said, you guys,

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Speaker 5: you'all remember everything about sports the way that last night.

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Speaker 2: Uh, that's right.

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Speaker 4: He might have been, I mean, arguably one of the

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Speaker 4: top third wide receivers in Cowboy history.

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Speaker 2: Consistency is consistent.

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Speaker 4: Third, I mean three, the third receiver.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, one of.

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Speaker 6: The top third suppendable number three receiver.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Now, I guess Beasley would enter into the conversation.

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Speaker 2: Preston Pearson.

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Speaker 4: Preston was, yeah, but he was more of a running back.

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Speaker 2: But he was third down down.

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Speaker 3: It was a different era, and he didn't he would

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Speaker 3: play this.

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Speaker 2: He started this.

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Speaker 3: Third thing, but it was but he wasn't a he

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Speaker 3: wasn't a slot receiver.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, slot receiver.

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Speaker 3: Are you talking slot slot receiver?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, album, Sorry, that slot receiver is a third down

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Speaker 5: receiver talking third down you're talking Preston Pearson was the

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Speaker 5: beginning of all of.

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Speaker 3: That, right, and you consider it's a different era of

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Speaker 3: football where you would play only two wide receivers on

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Speaker 3: the field at a given time. Agreed, So he was

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Speaker 3: the third receiver coming out of the backfield.

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Speaker 2: But Johnson.

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Speaker 4: But that's why I was trying to think, Yeah, you

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Speaker 4: had you had Drew.

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Speaker 6: Tony Hill and then but Johnson's not fast enough.

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Speaker 4: I was, I was, I was contemplated.

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Speaker 2: That's my childhood, man, That's right, that's right.

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Speaker 3: Uh so good. I was good to hear that Kmart

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Speaker 3: was out here, and so was it practice.

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Speaker 2: Going on with where he was?

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Speaker 5: He was actually out there on the y able to

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Speaker 2: No, I was had business day.

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Speaker 4: Which day? Which day was it?

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Speaker 2: That was Thursday?

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Speaker 3: Thursday, okay, okay, So we'll rely on Mickey to give.

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Speaker 4: Us a report from Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: Right now.

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Speaker 5: I saw, I did see Will Grier, Yeah, throwing the passes.

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Speaker 5: I couldn't. I couldn't see if Dak was out there.

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Speaker 5: What's the black quarterback? It wasn't Ten.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I saw Ten out there.

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Speaker 6: Well, he's got a I'm sure he was out there,

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Speaker 6: but I don't know if he's.

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Speaker 4: Got a hell of an arm as advertised. Now, it's

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Speaker 4: a matter of where he decides to throw the ball.

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Speaker 2: That's the one that threw it like.

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Speaker 4: And how he Oh he's got.

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Speaker 2: A gunnis ball or something.

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Speaker 4: Well, I don't know about that. He didn't throw no

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Speaker 4: tennis ball of orange? An orange? Yeah, okay, something heavy.

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Speaker 3: And so an open media day was Tuesday last week

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Speaker 3: at the practice. They didn't practice on Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: That's right Tuesday.

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Speaker 3: So we need to get Mickey's review on what he

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Speaker 3: saw out on the practice. Field. That was also the

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Speaker 3: day that players talked to the media, and for the

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Speaker 3: veteran players, basically the first time we've heard from them

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Speaker 3: since the end of the season speak of and uh

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Speaker 3: so there's a lot to get to here on this

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Speaker 3: edition of Mixed Shots.

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Speaker 4: So I thought the practice and this was probably pretty

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Speaker 4: predictable with a new coaching staff. Everything was pretty fast paced.

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Speaker 4: There was no walking between drills. Guys were running.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 4: There was a lot of energy the coaching staff, a

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Speaker 4: lot of passion, and there were some different drills they

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Speaker 4: were doing. Then we've been used to and that usually happens. Uh,

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Speaker 4: then we're used to seeing over the past four years.

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Speaker 4: And uh, yeah, I thought it was Uh, it was good.

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Speaker 4: Most everybody was there. One person was it You can

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Speaker 4: guess who it was. No, Well, he's still rehabbing, so

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Speaker 4: even if he was here, he wouldn't have been doing it. Mister,

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna be a leader. Micah Parsons wasn't leading in

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Speaker 4: the OTAs.

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Speaker 3: He was there on Monday.

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Speaker 4: He was there Monday, Okay, but did he do anything

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Speaker 3: Oh No, I wasn't here.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So so wait, what going on here?

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Speaker 2: Well, make a stand.

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Speaker 4: I think he's making a somewhat of a hold in right,

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Speaker 3: If he's not here, it's not a hold in like that.

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Speaker 4: No, he might be here, but he was the ot

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Speaker 4: a practice hold in.

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Speaker 2: I like that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, is that sort of like what?

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Speaker 6: Zach Martin the only one hearing this for the first.

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Speaker 4: No, but we went in veted it last year with

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Speaker 4: Zach and maybe the year before with with Ceede Lamb.

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Speaker 3: San Francisco wide receiver. Last year was a holding. Uh yeah, man,

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Speaker 3: he was. He was at training camp though he wasn't

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Speaker 3: getting fined and but he wasn't doing anything.

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Speaker 4: He got his contract, so uh but yeah, it was

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Speaker 4: you know, guys that we're still rehabbing did the rehab.

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Speaker 4: Although John Stevens and Revel did a little bit more

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Speaker 4: uh kind of individual stuff, they didn't do any of

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Speaker 4: the team stuff. Dak, I thought to me, I wrote

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Speaker 4: about it on Friday. You know, everybody talked about you know,

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Speaker 4: Pickens and C. D. Lamb being on the field together

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Speaker 4: and this and that. But I thought the most remarkable

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Speaker 4: thing was Dak was out there going through the entire

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Speaker 4: practice and when they went to eleven on eleven, he

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Speaker 4: was throwing and if you think about it as important

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Speaker 4: We were talking afterwards and he was telling me how,

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Speaker 4: you know, well he felt can do everything. He's just

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Speaker 4: not cleared for contact. And it's like, well, okay, fine,

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Speaker 4: but you ain't gonna have contact in the OTAs or

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Speaker 4: the mini camp, and chances are when training camp starts

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Speaker 4: he may have a double red jersey on. It's like,

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Speaker 4: keep your hands off from right.

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Speaker 3: Uh So his first contact comes one hundred days from today.

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Speaker 4: That's exactly right, because I was saying even if he

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Speaker 4: and I don't think he'll play in preseason games, but

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Speaker 4: if he does, seeing that he missed more than half

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Speaker 4: the season last year, you know they can control by

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Speaker 4: play call to keep him out of contact.

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Speaker 5: I would think that he might play in the preseason.

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Speaker 4: I think he might do.

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Speaker 6: Something because that he would want that because.

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Speaker 4: He can get They can call quick passes, little flares,

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Speaker 4: of a game. But you're right, basically the first time

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Speaker 4: he's been expose to real contract will be one hundred days.

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Speaker 4: Did you stay up all night counting sheep to know

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Speaker 4: how many? No?

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Speaker 3: It got tweeted out today. I haven't even checked it.

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Speaker 3: Tom Pellso tweeted it, and so it's one hundred days

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Speaker 3: still kickoff, so he must be talking about the Cowboys

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Speaker 3: Eagles game. I haven't even checked his work to make sure,

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Speaker 3: but it sounded like a good round number. I thought

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Speaker 4: Well, so I thought that was probably to me. Anyway,

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Speaker 4: if you kind of look at and I think people

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Speaker 4: forget after this past year, you know the season Dak

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Speaker 4: had in twenty twenty three, When I can tell you

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Speaker 4: because I just have his status.

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Speaker 3: And I have confirmed it in my own mind, it

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Speaker 3: is one hundred days, okay, we got four days left

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Speaker 3: in May, we got thirty in June, thirty one in July,

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Speaker 3: thirty one in August, then four September. That adds up

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Speaker 3: to one hundreds to go ahead.

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Speaker 4: So anyway, Dak in twenty twenty three led the NFL

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Speaker 4: in completions with second in completion percentage thirty yards, first

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Speaker 4: in touchdowns with thirty six, which was one less than

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Speaker 4: his club record of thirty seven single season. He was

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Speaker 4: second in percentage of touchdown passes and number two in

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Speaker 4: quarterback rating at one oh five point nine behind Rock

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Speaker 4: Purty who was one thirteen. So he had one hell

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Speaker 4: of a year in twenty twenty three when this team

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Speaker 4: went twelve and five. And I think people forget that

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Speaker 4: because I was at a function last a week ago

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Speaker 4: and I was like, yeah, Dak, he's just overpaid this

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Speaker 4: and that, and it's like, okay, but go look at

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Speaker 4: his stats, and they missed him last year and he

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Speaker 4: has not had a losing season other than the ones that.

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Speaker 3: He got into ged which brings me. Yes, there was

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Speaker 3: a ranking of quarterbacks that came out last week. I'm

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Speaker 3: sure one of your well I think it may be

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Speaker 3: your least favorite, but I'll just say one of your

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Speaker 3: least favorite entities put out a list ranking the quarterbacks

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Speaker 3: in the league, and Dak Prescott was rund twelve. No,

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Speaker 3: take another wild guess eight.

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Speaker 2: One of them was out. They had them had number twelve.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you have, okay, twelve is your guess eight? Eight?

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Speaker 3: Try seventeen, Oh Jesus, number seventeen ranked quarterbacks.

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Speaker 4: And what was that based on?

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Speaker 3: Well, I didn't read it to know exactly what it

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Speaker 4: Well that tells you how that is what we call.

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Speaker 5: And anytime there's two there's two names you can come

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Speaker 2: One. Yes, another one.

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Speaker 4: She's out for two weeks.

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Speaker 2: Be okay, she'll be okay, she'll be here.

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Speaker 3: And so producer supreme, how are you?

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Speaker 2: This is mine? Thank you?

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Speaker 3: So special delivery.

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Speaker 2: No, no, oh this is it.

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Speaker 3: That's your reading.

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Speaker 5: This is the read. No, this is the rankings. Oh,

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Speaker 3: I thought it was your. I didn't even look at

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Speaker 4: I want to know who's after ten?

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Speaker 3: You want me to go through the whole thing so

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Speaker 3: One through four is mahomes Borough, Jackson, Allen. Five through

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Speaker 4: What what was the preface to the ranking? What they

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Speaker 3: Well, it's where they rank them right now going into

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Speaker 4: Based on their careers.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's what I don't know.

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Speaker 3: You'll have to ask them. You want to get him

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Speaker 2: Seriously didn't play that well that badly last year.

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Speaker 4: Last year? What's he done the other eight years?

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Speaker 2: He showed improvement. He's trending up with as far as

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Speaker 4: But not good enough to stay where he was.

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Speaker 3: But we saw Dak for six games plus part of

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Speaker 2: Now, No, no, let's let's be real.

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Speaker 5: Not only was he high up in the voting, he

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Speaker 5: So to me, that just goes to show how well

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Speaker 4: And they couldn't decide who the running back was, by

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Speaker 5: And when you think of last year, and you think

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Speaker 5: the coaches are like, We're gonna make sure that I

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Speaker 4: Thing that people forget about the playoff loss in twenty

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Speaker 5: I think we forget about all the great quarterbacks that

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Speaker 2: You can go all the way back through history.

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Speaker 5: You can go Joe Montana, you can go Steve Young,

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Speaker 4: Throw in Peyton Manning and John Ellware.

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Speaker 2: There you go.

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Speaker 3: All right, and here's what was said about Dak Prescott.

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Speaker 3: All right is number seventeen ranking here. Prescott remains the

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Speaker 2: We'll get back to that.

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Speaker 3: In a season ending injuries sideline Prescott before he could

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty three. Yes, he had victories over Philadelphia

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Speaker 2: I don't know when the Minnesota game was, but that

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Speaker 3: At that time was a top tier that was second

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Speaker 2: Second half of the year. We putfore the on them, right,

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Speaker 4: So where were the losses?

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Speaker 4: He's just going to bring that up.

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Speaker 5: And he couldn't beat them, and we still should have

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Speaker 6: I'm telling you, was the Hunter lifty because he didn't

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Speaker 2: I was like, I remember things too.

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Speaker 2: Uh Hunter, Okay, you remember now?

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Speaker 3: Yes, that was just by the way he's in the

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Speaker 5: Still, you know what, I don't even mess with him

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Speaker 4: So I was right on him, and you know what,

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Speaker 4: I told you this place does have no credibility whatsoever.

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Speaker 3: Well, that was fun, it was Yeah, that was good.

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Speaker 4: And the other thing I wanted to point out about

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Speaker 4: I don't know if I've heard of that before.

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Speaker 6: Well, I'm not just that injury. I mean he came

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Speaker 5: He came off of a broken ankle, which is something

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Speaker 4: Three, well, twenty one and twenty two.

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Speaker 3: Also, Yeah, the way, now, if you're going to rank

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying you rank him seventeenth, but that would

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Speaker 4: And that just feeds into the narrative out there that

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Speaker 2: Who we are, nice quarterback Indiana.

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Speaker 4: If you don't as a quarterback win a super Bowl,

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Speaker 4: no one ever changes their opinion that they had of

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Speaker 5: He and Josh Allen are on the same level, except

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Speaker 4: And other than winning the Super Bowl. People that didn't

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Speaker 4: Why they love their teams in Buffalo.

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Speaker 2: Everyone loves Buffalo.

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Speaker 4: They still don't think the Stars scored the winning goal.

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Speaker 3: was very interesting to hear Everson say this, This guy

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Speaker 3: plays like me. Well, I feel like I'm watching me

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Speaker 3: when I watch his highlights.

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Speaker 5: I know exactly what he's doing, why he's doing it,

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Speaker 5: what he's thinking while he's doing it. He's good. Now,

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Speaker 5: he's good. And he's not just playing the receiver. He's

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Speaker 5: playing the ball. He's playing the play, you know. So

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Speaker 5: it's almost as if he knows what's coming. His anticipation

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Speaker 4: Which is rather remarkable for the short college career he had, which.

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Speaker 3: By the way, began at Lewisburg College in twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: the Lewisbourg College Hurricanes. Of course, due to the pandemic,

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Speaker 3: there was no season his freshman year, only played six

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Speaker 3: games in twenty twenty one, and then he transferred to

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Speaker 3: East Carolina.

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Speaker 4: And played basically a season and a half two seasons.

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Speaker 4: I don't know that he played the well, he got

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Speaker 4: hurt in the twenty third or fourth game of the year.

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Speaker 4: After the third game last year.

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Speaker 5: Now, just his ability to negate the wide receiver speed

536
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Speaker 5: is what I like about it. He positions himself within

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Speaker 5: the route, within the you know, within the possession of

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Speaker 5: the route.

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Speaker 2: He knows. I think he had to play wide receiver.

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Speaker 5: He had to have played wide receiver before because he

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Speaker 5: knows what the wide receiver was trying to do as

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Speaker 5: he as he runs through the ballut.

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Speaker 4: I think maybe call it high school.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just the show is high school.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure he played.

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Speaker 6: I'm sure he played receiver, probably played both.

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Speaker 3: He played. Uh let's see. He attended Richard J. Reynolds

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Speaker 3: High School before transferring to Ronald Reagan High School in

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Speaker 3: nearby Paftown, North Carolina. Played cornerback and wide receiver for

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Speaker 3: their football team and also lettered in track and field.

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Speaker 2: Now he's got he's me with with a little bit

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Speaker 2: of speed.

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Speaker 3: All right, So what was your playing height and weight?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 3: Six two, Well that was yours, that's what he six

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Speaker 3: one in seven eight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was lying about six two thanks, yeah, because.

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Speaker 3: Six one in seven eight something. Yeah, one hundred and

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Speaker 3: ninety four pounds. Seriously, it was about you weren't looking

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Speaker 3: at his No, no, no, that's what I was at

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Speaker 3: the combine. He measured six one in seven eights, one

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Speaker 3: hundred and arm lengthy arm length? What kind of arm

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Speaker 3: length you have?

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Speaker 2: What about? I couldn't tell.

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Speaker 3: It's that long save thirty two and five eighths?

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Speaker 2: Is mine as longer than that? I think?

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Speaker 3: Well you'd round it off to thirty three. Now let's

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Speaker 3: get and I bought your hands span.

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Speaker 6: I don't know, big palms, but short in five eights.

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Speaker 3: Big hands for that?

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Speaker 2: Big hands?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah, look at his hand, Look at his hand. Wait, no,

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Speaker 3: it's better. Well he didn't run afford it.

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Speaker 4: Well he did when he went to East Carolina.

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Speaker 6: He runs like a four to four yes something, yes, but.

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Speaker 3: He did do the bench press, and that's what I'm

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Speaker 3: getting at here. Yeah, how many times.

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Speaker 11: Can you bench two and twenty? I'm sure it was horrible.

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Speaker 11: Well I'm for this shure to twenty five? How many

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Speaker 11: times can you it wasn't ten? Okay, he's at twelve yeah,

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Speaker 11: so he's got that. Yeah, he found one thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but but he's got better training though than you.

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Speaker 3: I mean back and then you didn't have.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't.

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Speaker 6: We had to make up way to Grambling my senior

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Speaker 6: year because you know, we were just that that.

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Speaker 3: I bet he played center field in baseball too.

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Speaker 5: He finally did in peterle League, High school people league

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Speaker 5: baseball too. But no, his his, his, his ability to

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Speaker 5: cut the receiver off and the gate his speed is

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Speaker 5: something that he naturally does. And I think you know

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Speaker 5: when you start talking about guys that kind of developed

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Speaker 5: late in their careers, Uh, he's coming from here. He's

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Speaker 5: not he's not trying to show you physically that he's

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Speaker 5: got the greatest technique, but he's coming. He's coming from

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Speaker 5: here first. So his his, his, his concentration is not

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Speaker 5: on what kind of technique he has. His concentration is

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Speaker 5: on where the receiver is going and how can I

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Speaker 5: get the ball? Because you can see that he's always

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Speaker 5: looking for the ball. And we've got digs, we've got bland.

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Speaker 5: Those guys can do it well, but they want to

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Speaker 5: run with the receiver. It's a challenge for them to

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Speaker 5: keep up with the receiver. With guys like myself and Ravel,

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Speaker 5: it's about negating your progress down the field, and now

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Speaker 5: I become the receiver as opposed to being the defender.

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Speaker 5: So you've got guys like Diggs and Bland who who

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Speaker 5: loved the race, They love the chase. I think with

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Speaker 5: this guy here, it's all about the intellect. It's all

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Speaker 5: about I'm going to run the route better than you,

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Speaker 5: not about speed.

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Speaker 4: Speaking of Bland, in some of the defensive sets when

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Speaker 4: they were eleven on eleven, Bland was working out of

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Speaker 4: the lot.

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Speaker 2: Was he yes, that's good, that's good.

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Speaker 3: So and that's basically where he got his start in

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Speaker 3: the NFL when Jordan Lewis went down with an injury.

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Speaker 4: Then had and then they had another injury and he

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Speaker 4: moved outside, so outside then with no digs here, Elam

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Speaker 4: was at one spot.

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Speaker 6: Who is a guy that.

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Speaker 4: They really need to if he's got it in him

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Speaker 4: to step up and become somebody that was drafted in

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Speaker 4: the first round that Buffalo gave up on. So he's

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Speaker 4: got some measurables and whatever that you know, and now

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Speaker 4: it was a late first round pick, but if they

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Speaker 4: can get something out of him, because you know, if if,

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Speaker 4: if Rebel's ready and they get something out of him,

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Speaker 4: and Diggs gets back at some point and Bland is

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Speaker 4: on the field, then you feel better about the cornerback position.

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Speaker 4: But at this point, to me, I still think they

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Speaker 6: What about Crossing and he's another one.

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Speaker 4: Can he take that next step because he got off

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Speaker 4: to a good start, had the shoulder injury, had to

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Speaker 4: come back from it in the off season. Now can

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Speaker 4: he get back to where he was in training?

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Speaker 2: Can?

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Speaker 4: And those are things you really don't know until you

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Speaker 4: start playing tackle football.

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Speaker 5: They had a couple of DB's out there, veteran DB's,

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Speaker 5: and are they still out there?

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Speaker 3: There have been no moves made within the last week.

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Speaker 3: And I think, Mickey, what you're talking about is this

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Speaker 3: is a time where they're figuring out what they have

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Speaker 3: the guys coming off injuries. And I think once we

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Speaker 3: get through this three week process through the mandatory mini camp,

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Speaker 3: then they'll reassess and see what they have head and forward.

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Speaker 4: In the training camp because they if they've got enough

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Speaker 3: Gilmore is still out there, and there's some others too, so.

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Speaker 4: And those guys don't want them, No, they don't want

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Speaker 3: off season and on into training camp. Really so it

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Speaker 3: may it probably be training camp before.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 5: But going back to our first segment, I can't stress

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Speaker 4: Yes, that was a serious injury. I don't know that

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Speaker 2: No, I mean, I'm talking about the connection now.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I know. But from a physical standpoint, we take

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Speaker 3: of mixed shots for this week, and so give it

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Speaker 4: What do you guys think of the Oh, by the way,

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Speaker 4: I was going to point this out, they're not playing

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Speaker 4: any games on the offensive line like you know usually

741
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Speaker 4: at this time of year when they get rookies come in,

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Speaker 4: they kind of wait their turn behind the veteran. Tyler

743
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Speaker 4: Booker is your starting right guard?

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Speaker 2: Really?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he was out there first. Usually it's like, well,

746
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Speaker 4: in deference to the veteran, this guy's got to earn

747
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Speaker 4: his way. They ain't even be what's the number one

748
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Speaker 4: question mark on this team? I think the number one

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Speaker 4: question mark that is more prevalent than say, what's going

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Speaker 4: to happen at linebacker, which I think is significant, is

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Speaker 4: the running back position.

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Speaker 2: What do you think go left tackle?

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Speaker 4: He's a guy that has to I did a deal

754
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 4: last week and the guys that need to take the

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Speaker 4: next step. You know, we always talk about who's.

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Speaker 3: The biggest jump that a player makes in his career

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Speaker 3: is from the first year to the second.

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Speaker 4: Well, it better be because they're counting on him. I

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Speaker 4: mean that's what that's the old that's what the coaches

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Speaker 4: would say, Yeah, because he jumped the first year. Everybody's

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Speaker 4: not Everson Walls. They're counting on him because there's really

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Speaker 4: no other alternative there that I think they'd sink their

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Speaker 4: teeth into. They had awesome Richards working at guard most

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Speaker 4: of the time, so at that left tackle position, he

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Speaker 4: needs to make that jump to solidify that offensive line.

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Speaker 5: I have to disagree, and I think I kind of

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Speaker 5: go back and forth on this. I don't know how

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Speaker 5: consistent I've been, but our defensive front needs to be bigger.

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Speaker 2: We need some big boys. Well, we need some big boys.

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Speaker 2: We need some, We need some.

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Speaker 4: Now they need some bad boys.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, bad boys with big bodies. Right, you got

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Speaker 2: to have a big body.

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Speaker 5: I don't care how bad you are, you get your

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Speaker 5: butt swallowed up down there at around two hundred and

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Speaker 5: eighty pounds or whatever. You gotta have some guys closer

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Speaker 5: to three hundred pounds down there in that what they

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Speaker 5: call it one one technique. You gotta have some guys

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Speaker 5: down there for that. Because man, we're going to come

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Speaker 5: up against some running teams in the NFC East, right.

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Speaker 3: Well, they're throwing a lot of seventh round draft picks

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Speaker 3: at it, right, justin Rodgers last year, to Jay Toya

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Speaker 3: this year, to Tommy I can bemo do b GOODU.

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Speaker 4: So Solomon Thomas is going to play in there. Now,

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Speaker 4: he's just a shade under three hundred.

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Speaker 3: He's not one of those.

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Speaker 5: If we have not shown that we can stop the

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Speaker 5: run last year. What do you think they're gonna come

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Speaker 5: out doing to us this year?

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Speaker 4: Oh no, No, that's why guys like and you're right,

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Speaker 4: it's all like seventh round or well it's.

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Speaker 3: Mozzi and Mozzi's got to take.

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Speaker 6: He's got to is another one of them. He's got

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Speaker 6: to what's Mozzi's what's Mozi's dimensions?

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Speaker 3: Well, he was listed coming out as three hundred and

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Speaker 3: thirty seven pounds, okay, and he lost down to three hundred.

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Speaker 2: That's the six year.

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Speaker 4: They've got him listed at six three, three twenty five,

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Speaker 4: back at three twenty two.

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Speaker 6: He he may have added more muscle, which which is good,

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Speaker 6: equals pounds.

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Speaker 4: And then the guy that's their ninety first person because

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Speaker 4: he's an international guy. He grew up or was born

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Speaker 4: in the Bahamas, Denzel Dackson. He's three twenty two. And

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Speaker 4: then what is Joya is three forty two each the.

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Speaker 3: Seventh round draft pick out of UCLA.

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Speaker 4: And Ernest Brown is listed at six five, three hundred,

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Speaker 4: but they've got him listed as a defensive end. So

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Speaker 4: you're right on the defensive line that has to significantly

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Speaker 4: change because teams ran on him last year. Still that

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Speaker 4: hasn't changed, and they'll try again. But again, if that

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Speaker 4: does improve, then the linebacker thing gets negated.

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Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, that was next.

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Speaker 4: And when they were in Nickel, the two linebackers the

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Speaker 4: majority of the time that were out there were Murray,

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Speaker 4: uh and Sanborn.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's interesting we haven't heard much talk about

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Speaker 3: Kenneth Murray.

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Speaker 4: I know they've got him sign playing outside. Okay, So

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Speaker 4: if it was three linebackers right now, I think it

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Speaker 4: would be Leo File Murray and.

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Speaker 3: So who's your green dot?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 4: Sanborne? I think believe it or not, at this point I.

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Speaker 3: Thought so Sanborne was playing in the middle.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought it would be the other way around.

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Speaker 3: We'll see. So Kenjick's not coming back, no, I doubt it,

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Speaker 3: and Kenneth Murray takes.

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Speaker 4: This spot, they would it would be a as far

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Speaker 4: as salary wise, huge bonus of demon. Clark took the

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Speaker 4: next step because we forget when he when he ended

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Speaker 4: up starting in twenty twenty three, he led the team

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Speaker 4: in tackles, by the way, and I don't know if

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Speaker 4: he fell out of favor last year with how Zim

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Speaker 4: was running his defense.

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Speaker 3: That's the thing. It's a third different defensive coordinator in

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Speaker 3: the last three years, and so you don't know what

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Speaker 3: the Iberflus thinks about these linebackers, right. It could be

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Speaker 3: different from what Zimmer thought, from what Quinn thought. We

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Speaker 3: know what Quinn thought. He didn't after vander esh got hurt.

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Speaker 3: He didn't have any linebacker.

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Speaker 2: I like, like, I like, how do you say his name?

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Speaker 6: I love his his his concentration is on linebacker.

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Speaker 4: He was a linebacker assistant. Yeah, they had good linebackers

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Speaker 4: and he I think he somewhat trusts Sanborn. He's never

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Speaker 4: been a starter, but he had him with the Bears,

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Speaker 4: and when they brought him in, I was thinking, well, okay,

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Speaker 4: it's a special teams guy, nice backup guy that knows

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Speaker 4: the coaches system well.

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Speaker 3: And I assume too that he likes Kenneth Murray because

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Speaker 3: that's a move that they made early on in the

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Speaker 3: off season, was to trade for Kenneth Murray. And Okay,

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Speaker 3: Eberflus knows what's out there in free agency. He knows

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Speaker 3: what he's got on this team. He's had time to

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Speaker 3: look and he knows what's around the league, and I'm

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Speaker 3: sure he signed off on yeall, let's get him.

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Speaker 4: And you can't hold your hat on Overshown to say

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Speaker 4: he's going to be ready to season is. I don't

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Speaker 4: think that's going to happen. I think he's got to

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Speaker 4: start probably on.

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Speaker 3: One thing about Murray about he'll be on pup to start.

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Speaker 3: And then but one thing about Murray. You look at

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Speaker 3: his athleticism, right, and it's a lot like Overshown and

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Speaker 3: maybe could be used in a different way than what

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Speaker 3: he was used either and with the Chargers or with

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Speaker 3: the Titans as far as he's got the ability to

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Speaker 3: get to rush as well, he's got some athleticism.

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Speaker 4: And this is an experimental time, right, it's not set

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Speaker 4: in stone, right because he still might be in the middle.

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Speaker 3: You don't know, so what you have.

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Speaker 4: It'll be interesting to watch these next couple of days

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Speaker 4: if they've adjusted anything, because one thing that Schottenheimer said

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Speaker 4: was they're going to give different guys opportunities to work

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Speaker 4: what you can you know, what can you do?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 4: The reviews on him, by the way, and I think

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Speaker 4: very high on some of the things that he's been

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Speaker 4: but you've got to have some talent to work with, right.

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Speaker 4: The fact that he's trying to get more of the

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Speaker 4: guys competing, you know they've got They moved, for whatever

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Speaker 4: it's worth, the ping pong table from the player's lounge

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Speaker 4: into the locker room and they were actually playing, right,

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Speaker 4: And there's arguments about who's the best, uh in Dak's estimate, Uh,

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Speaker 4: he calls him bangor, but it's Brian Anger, the punter.

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Speaker 2: He's the best.

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Speaker 4: He hits the home runs and he's best at ping

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Speaker 4: pong and he's not a bad punter. The other thing

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Speaker 4: they've done is they've moved a basketball goal up into

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Speaker 4: the offices and they're having free throw shooting contests for whatever.

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Speaker 4: That's all the yeah, just to get guys to go

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Speaker 4: up against each other. Right, So I think that's great

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Speaker 4: and and and that's kind of his idea. I think

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Speaker 4: we talked about it.

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Speaker 5: When you're bringing in a lot of different guys, that

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Speaker 5: could be a way for them to get to know

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Speaker 5: each other.

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Speaker 4: His point was, I want everybody to know that guy's story, right,

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Speaker 4: you know, and just so you.

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Speaker 3: Don't want him isolated off at another place, right.

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Speaker 4: Okay, another reason why Michael Parsons needs to be out there.

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Speaker 2: Man. That was fast.

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Speaker 5: It was.

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Speaker 3: It went by very fast.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 3: We'll be back at our regular time next Monday at

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Speaker 3: eleven am for mix shots.

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Speaker 2: So Cowboys.

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