1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in everybody to the Clay Travis 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton Show. This is Buck. I am rocking 4 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: it solo today on the show because my main man, 5 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 1: Clay is doing some dad stuff, spending time with kids, 6 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: picking up some baseball games, stuff like that, having a 7 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,159 Speaker 1: good time, well deserved time away from the mic. But 8 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: I promise you we are gonna rock and roll here 9 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: on the show as we always do, because there's a 10 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 1: lot going on right now. The big thing, of course, 11 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court decision that came down early this morning. 12 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: I read through that decisions about one hundred and thirty pages. 13 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: I had to read some of it on the car 14 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: ride on the way here, and I can't read in 15 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: cars vert you know, if my eyes get a little bit, 16 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: I get a little car sick. But I read it 17 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,279 Speaker 1: anyway because that's the dedication I have here. We'll talk 18 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: about the huge gun rights Second Amendment ruling here and 19 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: just second also more on the issue of crime, how 20 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: it's going to affect the midterms coming up here. Polling 21 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: on the Biden regime new from Quinnipiac Man. It is bad. 22 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: The Uvolde police chief who was the commanding officer on 23 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 1: the scene of that response, so that horrific school shooting 24 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 1: has been placed on administrative leave. So we'll be discussing 25 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: that New York City has small children getting their COVID shots. 26 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 1: You know how I feel about this. We'll discuss, and 27 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 1: then what's going on with the airlines? Thousands and thousands 28 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: of cancelations in recent days. Got a real problem here. 29 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: It needs to get fixed. Something's going on. And then 30 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,839 Speaker 1: Senator Tubberville from the Great State of Alabamall be joining 31 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: us later on the program, talking a bit about Title 32 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: nine on its fiftieth anniversary. But let's get it. Let's 33 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,559 Speaker 1: dive into this because this is something that honestly, folks 34 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: near and dear to my heart. Let me tell you why. 35 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: I'm a born and raised New Yorker. I was born 36 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: in New York City, grew up there, and other than 37 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: my time in the CIA and my time in college, 38 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: I have been a New York resident for basically my 39 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: entire life. And one of the great frustrations of living 40 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: in not just New York City but New York State 41 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 1: is that it is along with a handful of other 42 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: states Maryland, Massachusetts, California, New Jersey. There are six that 43 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: are cited in this Supreme Court decision, but Hawaii, along 44 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: with a handful of other states, effectively second Amendment no 45 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: go zones as much as they can be. You can 46 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 1: own a shotgun, although you have to get a permit 47 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: usually depends on the state. But overall, they have in 48 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: place a regime that's meant to prevent you from actually 49 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: enjoying your right to bear arms key phrase here, as 50 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,679 Speaker 1: we all know folks to keep and bear arms. That 51 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: first part, the keeping of the arms, was dealt with 52 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: pretty well in DC v. Heller. Remember that case from 53 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: some years ago. You had an individual license to have 54 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: a gun for work, but who lived in the District 55 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 1: of Columbia and could not even bring his firearm that 56 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: he had at work all day home with him. So 57 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: that's crazy, right, But that was the law, and they 58 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 1: would arrestue. DC was vicious about enforcing even the most 59 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: minor infractions of firearms law, unless you're a gang member 60 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: with a long history of drugs. Then they're always looking. 61 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: And this is the thing you have to remind yourself 62 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: about the libs. If you're somebody who has guns and 63 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: is actually a danger to society. They don't want to 64 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: make an example of you. They want to go they 65 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: want to go soft on you. This is what we've 66 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: seen with the progressive prosecutors and criminal justice reform as 67 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: they call it. But if you're a guy who likes 68 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: to go hunting on the weekends, but you cross from 69 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: Virginia into DC with two shotgun shells in your pocket 70 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: that are twenty gage men for pheasant, guess what, Too bad, 71 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: you're on your own. They're gonna lock you up. That's 72 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: their attitude right. Well, in this case, this New York 73 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: State Rifle and Pistol Association and V. Bruin Brum is 74 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: a superintendent of the New York State Police. What we 75 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: have here is the bare arms part of it finally 76 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: coming into Supreme Court focus, and by six three, the 77 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: proper cause requirement for getting a handgun permit, our firearm 78 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: permit to have and carry a concealed pistol or revolver, 79 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: the proper cause requirement is gone. Now it is unconstitutional. 80 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: Now what this means in effect, remember d C. V. 81 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 1: Heller said you got to be able to if your 82 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 1: law abiding citizen and you meet some very basic thresholds. 83 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: You know, you've got to you've got to be able 84 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: to buy a gun. You can't just say you're not 85 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: allowed to have a gun, period, because the Second Amendment, well, 86 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: now it's can you get a concealed carry permit? Can 87 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 1: you actually carry your weapon with you? And I know 88 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: there's all there's going to be the whole distinction between 89 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 1: concealed carry and open care in all this, But just 90 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 1: to be able to carry in any capacity in these 91 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: states was not allowed unless you were special, unless you 92 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: could prove demonstrate a special need that's different from just 93 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: people in general. And six three decision here Roberts did 94 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 1: join the majority, So he may be a whimp, but 95 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: he's not a lunatic. Six three decision took a sledgehammer 96 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 1: to the anti gun regime of so many of these states, 97 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 1: or I should say the anti bearing arms regime. Right, 98 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,559 Speaker 1: because you're allowed to own in New York, you're allowed 99 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: to own a firearm in California, but can you carry 100 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: it anywhere? Can you get a concealed carry permit? Now 101 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 1: in the state of New York. As I said, this 102 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: is near and dear to me because I have not 103 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 1: been able to as an adult, I have not been 104 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,559 Speaker 1: able to enjoy Second Amendment rights in my home state. 105 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: And it's obscene and one of my favorite parts of 106 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: this decision right, one of my favorite parts of the 107 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: way they dismantle I mean the Libs here, the Libs Brier, 108 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: sodomayor Kagan just pathetic stuff in their descent. Honestly. Oh, 109 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: but there's so much gun violence. Wait, but there's so 110 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: much gun violence. You guys are banning guns in these 111 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: states in every way you can, but there's still so 112 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: much violence. Almost like the only people who are gonna 113 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 1: have guns in a no gun regime state like New 114 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: York or California are the bad guys. Oh, that is 115 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: what happens. That is what happens New York bands and 116 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: has for over a hundred years. I've known about the 117 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 1: Sullivan Law passed in nineteen eleven. By the way, I 118 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: rarely would say this to you if you are a 119 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: Second Amendment enthusiast. Though, reading this whole decision, just because 120 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: of the history that it goes into is fascinating. The 121 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 1: history of weapons and concealed carry and the Old West 122 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: and MIDI even goes back in the medieval period, goes 123 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 1: back to English common law seventeenth century, eighteenth century. It's 124 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 1: fascinating history, of course, written by the constitutionalist the conservatives 125 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: in the court in their six three slapdown of this 126 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: unconstitutional absurdity of you're not allowed. A law abiding American 127 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: in these states was not allowed to get a pistol 128 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: to carry concealed for protection unless they were special, which 129 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: basically meant unless you're connected, unless you know how to 130 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: work the system. And that's why, honestly, you know who's 131 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: getting concealed carry permits in New York City, specifically celebrities, famous, 132 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: important people, powerful people, and they usually often had armed 133 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: security on top of all that too, but you know 134 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: they wanted to feel like they could defend themselves. Well, 135 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: that's not the way this is supposed to be. But 136 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: the history that it goes through in this case is 137 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: fascinating just from a perspective. If you want to know 138 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: the history of self defense law as it pertains to 139 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: the carrying of arms, it's really interesting stuff. And then 140 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: beyond that, they make the case very clearly that in 141 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: a place like New York, because they and there's so 142 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: much that goes into this, there's a two step tests. 143 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: They discussed. I mean, the legality of it is fascinating. 144 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: What really though it come came down to for so 145 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: many decades now, and even in a post Heller world, 146 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: this is what the courts, numerous appeals courts had upheld 147 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: this standard, which was essentially yeah, but if if democrats 148 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: states think it's really important to not let you carry guns, 149 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:39,319 Speaker 1: that's that's that overrides your Second Amendment right to carry 150 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: because we say so as effectively because we're neurotic libs. 151 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: And the notion of people who are law abiding citizens 152 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 1: being able to defend themselves having a chance to defend 153 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: themselves is something that upset people who live in you know, 154 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: the fanciest parts of Boston, on the Upper West Side 155 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: of Manhattan and Santa Monica and Beverly Hills out in 156 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: Los Angeles. It upsets people who live in the very 157 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: safe neighborhoods. Oh my gosh, you mean my neighbor who's 158 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: totally law abiding and trustworthy in every aspect of his 159 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 1: life or her life might be able to carry a 160 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: concealed weapon. That's terrifying. I want only the gang members, 161 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: the murderers, the assaulters, etc. To be able to carry 162 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: apparently that's what the Libs have been suggesting this whole time, 163 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: because as it states in this and you should, this 164 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: is a total SmackDown. This is home run from the 165 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: perspective of the Second Amendment. This decision, I'm saying, this 166 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 1: was really as good as you could have hoped this 167 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: case would be. And by the way, we may be 168 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: getting Row overturned tomorrow. So it is this is one 169 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 1: of the biggest weeks possibly the Supreme Court has had 170 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: in at least a decade. I mean, this is massive. 171 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 1: If this continue, assuming Row come down tomorrow with you, 172 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: it's not actually Row, but it could overturn Row. So 173 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 1: here we are now looking at a major win for 174 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: the Second Amendment. And as I was telling you, and 175 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: we could go into more of the tests and everything else, 176 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: but the most important takeaway is that Democrats want to 177 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: be in a position to tell you that you cannot, 178 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: through their state legislatures or the mayor's office, or the 179 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 1: police commissioner or whomever, you're not allowed to defend yourself 180 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: with a concealed pistol. And of course there are forty 181 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: when you think it's forty three states, I believe that 182 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: already have forty three states that already have some form 183 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: of You may get right, most states have already understood this, 184 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 1: but there are six and they happen to be some 185 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: of the biggest. The biggest population state California, and a 186 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: couple of other mega population states in New York. New 187 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: Jersey have been terrible on this issue for a long time. 188 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,839 Speaker 1: So now we have we're through that will be able 189 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: to They're gonna have to pass laws in the state legislature. 190 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: I'm sure they're gonna make it annoying, They're gonna make 191 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 1: it expensive. But isn't it fascinating that at the same 192 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: time that some Republican senators are bending the knee on 193 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: red flag laws and you know, mental health funding that 194 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: they think is going to stop shootings or whatever they 195 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: believe will be accomplished with this some expansion of background 196 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: check to go into juvenile records. The same week that 197 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: Republicans bent the knee, the Supreme Court actually dealt a 198 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: devastating blow to the gun grabbers. And it's about more 199 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: than and I'll come back and talk to you about 200 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: this in a second. There's more at stake here than 201 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: just your neurotic lib neighbor or libs like Pelosi and 202 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: Schumer who have been defended by men paid by the 203 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 1: state with guns their entire adult lives. It's not just 204 00:11:56,600 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: that it makes them uncomfortable that you, you, just a person, 205 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: an American, not an important person, just a person, might 206 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: be able to defend yourself. There's also some fascinating lessons 207 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 1: from that history that has laid out in this New 208 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: York State Rifle and Pistol Association v. Bruin ruling. And 209 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: I want to get to that because it actually goes 210 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: to the heart of the Second Amendment, and it goes 211 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: to I think some of the very important lessons we 212 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,719 Speaker 1: have learned when it comes to the state and it's 213 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: overreach and tyranny in recent years. So we'll dive into 214 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 1: some of that. We come back, and I mean, I 215 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: have so much more to talk to you about, including 216 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: a case of how wrong the criminal justice reform mindset 217 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,959 Speaker 1: can go in New York City and other places. My friends, 218 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: we have a lot of work to do, so stay 219 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 1: with me. 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We're 244 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 1: not going to seed our rights that easily. Despite the 245 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: best efforts of the politicized Supreme Court of the United 246 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 1: States of America, the Supreme Court is now decided, with 247 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: this far reaching decision that the two step standard that 248 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: have been in place since Hellard versus McDonald no longer. 249 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: Can we strike the balance only if a firearm regulation 250 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: is consistent with this nation's historical tradition. May a court 251 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: conclude that the individual's conduct falls outside the Second Amendment's 252 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: unqualified command. Shocking, absolutely shocking that they have taken away 253 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: our right to have reasonable restrictions. We can have restrictions 254 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: on speech. You can't yell fire in a crowded theater, 255 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: but somehow there's no restrictions allowed on the Second Amendment. 256 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Clay and back. This is bucking solo 257 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: today plays out on vacation. And that was the governor 258 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: of New York, hokel whom no one actually voted for 259 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: or elected or anything like that. She just got appointed. 260 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: And then you know, Cuomo was grabbing too many of 261 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: his subordinates, and so he's out. Not because he forced 262 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: Grandma with COVID back into the nursing home and had 263 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: the most catastrophic results of any nursing home communities in 264 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: the whole country. That's not why the Libs got rid 265 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: of him. But Hokeel listening to her constitutional analysis or 266 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: her sense of firearms law, honestly she should she should 267 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: probably just not speak about this at all. I would 268 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: rather hear Joy behar make completely in At least her 269 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: statements will be amusingly stupid. Hokeel just says really dumb things. 270 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: Has no idea what she's talking about. The notion that 271 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: they that these are reasonable restrictions, It's not reasonable. It's 272 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: not reasonable to say you're a law abiding citizen, you 273 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: have a Second Amendment right. But I'm not convinced. If 274 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: I'm the you know, sheriff for your county, I'm not 275 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: convinced you need a gun, So you don't get one. 276 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: Oh but somebody else I think they need one, so 277 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: they get one. This is the definition of capricius. This 278 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: is the definition of the rule of men over the 279 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: rule of law, or instead of the rule of law. 280 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: And we all know it. Look all you have to 281 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: see is at the very top of the and just 282 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: just for anyone joining us. Huge decision that came down 283 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: today six three where the rules around giving someone a 284 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: carry permit for a firearm in states that are that 285 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: require a need to be proven that is unconstitutional. Huge 286 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: implications for New York, California, and a handful of other states. 287 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: In the Descent by bry Or Semi Oran Kagan, they 288 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: start this is the first line of the descent. In 289 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: twenty twenty forty five, two and twenty two Americans were 290 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: killed by firearms. What does that have to do with 291 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: the constitutionality of law abiding citizens carrying carrying a firearm? 292 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: I mean, just think about this. Really, their descent comes 293 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: down to guns are gross and scary and bad. People 294 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 1: like to lawfully have them. Notice that the fascinating separation here. 295 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: Democrats can always find ways to sympathize with criminals who 296 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: use guns to hurt people. Oh, we don't want to 297 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: send them to prison for too long. Just look at 298 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,880 Speaker 1: the statistics. I'm not making this up. That data proves 299 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: my point. Look at what they're doing in New York, 300 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,199 Speaker 1: Look at what they're doing in Philadelphia. Look at what 301 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: they're doing in LA and San Francisco prohibited possessor previous 302 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: felons in possession of firearms dismissed. Case dismissed. Go look 303 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: up the case of Mark Whitishek in Washington, d C. 304 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: I remember I interviewed him a long time ago. The 305 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: guy was a sport hunter and wasn't even about self defense, 306 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: had a defunct shotgunshell on him, and the District of 307 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: Columbia wanted to send them a prison for it. That's 308 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 1: who they want to make an example. Anyway, we'll come 309 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: back to more on this than a second eight hundred 310 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: two eight eight two. On the phone lines, I speaking 311 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: of phones, friends, guess what phone I'm using all the time? Well, 312 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 1: what phone service? I should say? Pure Talk. It says 313 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 1: it right off on the top left of my phone 314 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,959 Speaker 1: all the time. I know I'm rolling with pure Talk. 315 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: I made this switch. This is the phone I'm using 316 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: twenty four seven. It was so easy to change over. 317 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: My cell service is crisp and clear. 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Pure Talk 327 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 1: also has a no risk money back guarantee. All you 328 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: have to do is dial pound two five zero say 329 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 1: Clay an Buck. You'll get a first month free pound 330 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: two five zero say and Buck. The Supreme Court in 331 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: a six three decision here striking down this New York 332 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: gun law. This is an opinion that was written by 333 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: Justice Clarence Thomas, and this says that that particular requirement 334 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: about getting a license to carry a handgun, a concealed 335 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: handgun in public, that it violates the Fourteenth Amendment. The 336 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: conservative majority here, guys, is really going back to this 337 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: idea that the Second Amendment has really become a second 338 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 1: class right. This is something that we've heard Justice Thomas 339 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 1: say in opinions, We've heard him say it in public. 340 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 1: Justice Alito as well, saying that they believe the Second 341 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 1: Amendment has become a second class right, and now in 342 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: this particular opinion, they're striking down this New York gun law. 343 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: Welcome back to clay An Buck. This is buck in 344 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: solo for the day. And it has become the Second 345 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: Amendment has become a second class right within the Bill 346 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: of Rights, and that needs to change. And today sixty 347 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: three ruling, and it's an excellent ruling, is certainly a 348 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:09,360 Speaker 1: step in the right direction. The more you think about this, 349 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: the more you dive into the arguments, the text, the history, 350 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: you find that it's stunning really that the Libs were 351 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: able to get away with this as long as they did. 352 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: I mean, what purpose does it serve? Just think about 353 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:27,919 Speaker 1: it in this context. And I know we have so 354 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: many listeners in New York and California, specifically, I'm a 355 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: New Yorker. They wouldn't let me. I was trained by 356 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: the CIA. I was in the NYPD for a short 357 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: period of time, about eighteen months as an intelligence analyst. 358 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: But I mean I had federal government training with firearms. 359 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 1: I am a law abiding citizen. Everybody around me would 360 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,360 Speaker 1: be made safer, in my opinion, by my legal carrying 361 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: of a gun. Would not let me have one, would 362 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: not it didn't matter if I applied said, hey, here 363 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: I am, I'll do the fingerprinting, I'll do the course. 364 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:03,439 Speaker 1: Just tell me what I have to do to get one. No, 365 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 1: prove that you're special, prove that you're important. Was the 366 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 1: law in New York, particularly in New York City, even 367 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 1: worse in New York City than a New York state. 368 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: This is obviously not the way the rule of law 369 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,360 Speaker 1: is supposed to work. But libs are terrified of law 370 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: abiding gun owners. That's the fascinating part. Criminals, people who 371 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: misuse guns, liberals have a soft spot for. But people 372 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: who want to carry and defend themselves in their community 373 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 1: and go shooting at the range on the weekends. Perhaps 374 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: that's scary to libs. Oh, guns make big bang noises 375 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 1: and I hate it. Keep it away. I don't want 376 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: the scary gun noise. So that's reflected by the way 377 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,199 Speaker 1: in the descent here. But something is you know, I 378 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 1: do love history, and I want to get into the 379 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: criminal component of this and how it ties into what 380 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,679 Speaker 1: we're seeing nationally in just a moment. But I had 381 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,360 Speaker 1: mentioned to you that there was some fascinating historical discussion 382 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 1: in this Supreme Court case that came down today in 383 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 1: New York Rifle and Pistol Association v. Brewin, and I 384 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: just want to read to you. This is from the 385 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: opinion written by Justice Thomas. Who he is. I've said 386 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: this before if I can come up with a better, 387 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 1: more specific phrase, but he is a national treasure. He 388 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: really is. Justice Thomas is just an amazing man who 389 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: should be so much more. I mean, he's celebrated by 390 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: conservative He should be so much more celebrated nationally than 391 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: he is, just for being brilliant, for having an incredible 392 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 1: life story. But I digress. When we look to the 393 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 1: latter half of the seventeenth century, this decision says respondence 394 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: case only weekends. As in Heller, we consider this history 395 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: between the Stewart Restoration and sixteen sixty and the Glorious 396 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: Revolution in sixteen eighty eight to be particularly instructive. During 397 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: that time, the Stewart King Charles the Second and James 398 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:58,959 Speaker 1: the Second ramped up efforts to disarm their political opponents, 399 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: and experience that caused Englishmen to be jealous of their arms. 400 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: I thought there and there's other examples like this, but 401 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: this is the key point. Friends. When you look at 402 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: the history of these efforts to disarm the law abiding, 403 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 1: whether it's in England, whether it's in the medieval period, 404 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 1: or it's in the revolutionary period in America. You look 405 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,199 Speaker 1: at these efforts to disarm, it's always a means of 406 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: the powerful asserting their control because they want to be 407 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 1: able to do whatever they want to do. They don't 408 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: want anyone to be able to say, no, you're a tyrant, 409 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: No you've gone too far, and I can do something 410 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 1: about it. And this really goes to the heart of 411 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: the Second Amendment. When you read through the history, it's 412 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 1: fascinating those with the guns or the swords, and the daggers, 413 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 1: daggers and the halberds, and you know, those with those weapons, 414 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 1: they don't want others to be able to meet them 415 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: with steel and gunpowder. They want to be the ones 416 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: that get to call all the shots. They say, you 417 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: know what, we're just gonna know. You are not important, 418 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: You don't get And you could look at all throughout history. 419 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 1: You know, different times we're just the carrying of a sword, 420 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 1: unless you were connected to the nobility, was something that 421 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: could get you even executed, right, But then there are 422 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 1: other times where there was an expectation that all gentlemen 423 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 1: would be carrying. There are cultures actually where you have 424 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: to carry a working blade. Cultures were carrying a knife 425 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: for utility and for the protection of one's self and 426 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:40,679 Speaker 1: perhaps even one's faith or one's state. That was expected 427 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: the Libs. Ultimately, I mean, there's the criminal justice component 428 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: of this and the self protection, but then there's also 429 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: the defense against tyranny aspect. And the left in this 430 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: country the anti gun Democrat party, which now effectively is 431 00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: all the Democrat Party. There are some who will still 432 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: tend here and there to win some votes at their 433 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: pro second Amendment, but the Democrat parties become the anti 434 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 1: gun party because they're authoritarians. You've seen this dre over 435 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: the course of COVID. You see this in your day 436 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,439 Speaker 1: to day lives. They want to control your speech, they 437 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 1: want to control your property, they want to control every 438 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 1: aspect of your life. They want to brainwash your children 439 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: into gender identity theory. I mean, they want full and 440 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: total control. And even if they may not have the 441 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: eloquence and the constitutional understanding, which they certainly don't to 442 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: put it in these terms, they do understand at some 443 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 1: level that the individual ownership by citizens of this country 444 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: of firearms is a personal act of rebellion against authoritarianism, 445 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: or at least the possibility waiting in the wings, waiting 446 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 1: on the sidelines, to be that active rebellion should it 447 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: be called upon. And they hate that. They hate that 448 00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: because they know, somewhere deep down, hold on a second, 449 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 1: we can't just force them to do anything we want 450 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: if we have full and total control of the apparatus. 451 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: We can't just start pulling people out of their homes 452 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 1: and arresting them in front of their families because of 453 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 1: climate denial. What do you mean that would be a 454 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: problem for us. Ultimately, the true believers on the left, 455 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 1: the real center of the Democrat Party finds that notion 456 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: of an armed populace unacceptable, unacceptable to them, because they 457 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,400 Speaker 1: want they're always trying, they're progressing, you see. Yeah, they're 458 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,959 Speaker 1: always moving for the next thing, moving to the next issue. 459 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,439 Speaker 1: But their ultimate progression as progressives is to get to 460 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 1: the utopia that is only possible when they are in 461 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: total and complete control. And so long as we have 462 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 1: an armed population in this country, that represents the final 463 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 1: bulwork against that tyranny. And they know it, so they 464 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: hate it. They also like all the virtue signaling, of course, 465 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 1: from if we could only pass more gun laws, we 466 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 1: would stop all the gun violence out there. It's not true, 467 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,679 Speaker 1: but people say that and they feel proud and brave 468 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 1: and smart if only we passed this gun law. No 469 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 1: matter how many times they fail, it feels good for 470 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 1: them to say it. It feels good for the left 471 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 1: to shout this out, so they will keep doing it. 472 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: They won't look at the data. It doesn't matter to them. 473 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 1: They want you disarmed and double masked. That's the point. 474 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,360 Speaker 1: That's how they see this, and if we allow them, 475 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: that's where we'll go. But today's Supreme Court decision a 476 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: huge victory, a huge move in the right direction. You 477 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:44,880 Speaker 1: got to hear about this case in New York. Actually, though, 478 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: if somebody who was arrested one hundred and twenty two times, 479 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: let me just repeat that, arrested one hundred and twenty 480 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: two times still out there on the street. It's one thing. 481 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,640 Speaker 1: But when we come back, want to do it. An 482 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: update on the Uval Day police response. The biggest part 483 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: of this that's from the news cycle is that the 484 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: police chief has officially been placed on administrative leaf. I 485 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:22,919 Speaker 1: think this does tie into our discussion about an armed populace. 486 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: I think this is a lesson. The police response here 487 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: is a lesson for many of us, and I want 488 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,439 Speaker 1: to come back to that in just a moment, if 489 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:30,679 Speaker 1: you want to weigh in on this, by the way, 490 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court decision today and what it means for you, 491 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: especially if you're in a state where you're now going 492 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 1: to go get a concealed carry permit. 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We have a huge Supreme Court decision 529 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: that came down. We've been talking about it at six three. 530 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: Decision that the essentially the good reason for carrying a 531 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: firearm standard for law abiding citizens no longer is acceptable. 532 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 1: It is no longer okay to say that you have 533 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: to you have to show a special reason to be 534 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: able to carry A proper cause is the legal term 535 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 1: of art here. One thing, though, I gave a shout 536 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: out to Justice Thomas, who a lot of us know. 537 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 1: He's amazing, but deserves even more praise than he gets 538 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 1: from those of us who are fans of his jurisprudence, 539 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: his sharp mind, and his courage. In this decision, he 540 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: wrote a short prologue as an order. Even before the 541 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: Civil War commenced in eighteen sixty one, this Court indirectly 542 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: affirmed the importance of the right to keep and bear 543 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: arms in public, writing for the Court in dread Scott v. Sanford, 544 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: Of course, one of the worst decisions in the history 545 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: of the Screen Court Chief Justice Tainey offered what he 546 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: thought was a parade of horribles that would result from 547 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: recognizing that free blacks were citizens of the United States. Again, 548 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: this is a quote from the decision. If blacks were citizens, 549 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: Tainey fretted, they would be entitled to the privileges and 550 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: immunities of citizens, including the right to keep and carry 551 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: arms wherever they went. Thus, even Chief Justice Tainey recognized, 552 00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: albeit unenthusiastically, in the case of blacks, public carry was 553 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 1: a component of the right to keep and bear arms, 554 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: a right free blacks were often denied in Antibellam America. 555 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 1: And that's the end of the quote. There just a 556 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: reminder as well for everybody. It was the racist Democrat 557 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 1: Party that worked so hard after the Civil War to 558 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: make sure that that black citizens of this country were disarmed. 559 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: It was the racist Democrat Party during reconstruction and then 560 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 1: leading all the way up into the era of the 561 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: ku Klux Klan that was doing everything it could to 562 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: disarm our fellow Americans who were black. So there is a, 563 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: as I said, a long history of disarming in the 564 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: name of oppression that stretches back for hundreds of years, 565 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: not even just in America, but hundreds of years stretches 566 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 1: back all throughout history. The people in charge want you 567 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: to shut up and do what you're told. They get 568 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: the guns, you get the orders. That's the way they've 569 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 1: wanted it to be. Our founding fathers and the reason 570 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: for the Second Amendment. They realize, no, that's not gonna work. 571 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: We're not going to have a free society, get truly 572 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: free society of individuals with real liberty unless we change 573 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: that dynamic. So I think that's essential to takeaway from 574 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 1: all this. We have some calls up, want to get 575 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 1: to them, and then I'll talk to you more about 576 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: the criminal justice side of all this coming up, as 577 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: well as the latest Quinnipiac polling for the Biden regime. 578 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: Urch it's not good. No joke, folks, it's not good. 579 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: You know. Scirberty bah Biden. That's the new talking point. 580 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 1: Just mutter something and they'll say, look at him. He's great, 581 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 1: so much better than Trump. Catherine in California on the 582 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 1: process of getting concealed carry permitt. Catherine, what's going on? Hi? 583 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: How are you? I'm good? What's the process like out 584 00:33:54,320 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 1: in California? Quite lengthy? It took me a year from 585 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 1: applying for my permit to actually getting my permit, and 586 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: the cost was well over five hundred dollars. Honestly, it 587 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,919 Speaker 1: was probably closer to six or seven hundred dollars when 588 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,240 Speaker 1: you account for the fees with the county, the class 589 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: I had to take, fingerprinting, the whole shebang. I actually 590 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: got my permit when I was five or six months 591 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: pregnant with my son, because I wasn't pregnant when I started. 592 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: And then when I went in to take my class 593 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: and qualify with my pistol, I told my teacher ahead 594 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 1: of time. I said, Hey, I'm pregnant. Is that going 595 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 1: to be a problem for you? My doctor already cleared 596 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 1: me to do this. Do I need like a special 597 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 1: desk in the classroom? So that it was quite a process. 598 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 1: I had a baby for how long it took me 599 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 1: to actually get it? I mean, I know it's rough 600 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 1: out there in California. I'm just wondering, Catherine, do you 601 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: have the same thing they have in New York City 602 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: where they have very own or as storage requirements, specifically 603 00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 1: lockbox for the pistol, trigger guard on the pistol in 604 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 1: the lockbox, separate lockbox for ammunition, and no, I am 605 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 1: not making that up for anybody who's wondering, do you 606 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: have anything like that in California? Lock box for storage? 607 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 1: For sure. I have my um biometric safe for the pistol. 608 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 1: I have a separate locked box for my AMMO, the 609 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 1: middle one that you said, I'm the trigger guard. Honestly, 610 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 1: I would have to check offhand, just because I keep mine. 611 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,439 Speaker 1: You know, a trigger lock, like an external extra lock. 612 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 1: They make you put on the trigger. Do you know, 613 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 1: just so that if you break into the lockbox, it's 614 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: not if it's not in a safe, then I believe 615 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:40,280 Speaker 1: you have to do that. My safe fits my pistol. 616 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 1: My husband has several rifles and he uses the Honestly, 617 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,839 Speaker 1: it's like a giant chord. Yeah. Isn't an amazing By 618 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 1: the way, Katherine, that that they'll say to you, the Democrats, 619 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 1: the Libs, you know newsome in your state. Well, the 620 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 1: rights not absolute. You had to spend five hundred dollars 621 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 1: a year, take a class, get fingerprinted. I mean, you know, 622 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 1: just so everyone's in and you at least got when Katherine, 623 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 1: thanks for calling it from California. I know plenty of 624 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 1: people that are just told no, can't have one. You 625 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 1: want to get in New York City? You want to 626 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 1: you want to conceal carry permit? Are you important? Do 627 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,919 Speaker 1: you make a big donation to the mayor's campaign? And 628 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 1: did you pick the right side? Are you somebody who 629 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,399 Speaker 1: can grease the wheels inside of one police plaza which 630 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: is the police headquarters And that's the way it is 631 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 1: in so many places, folks. So a big win for 632 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 1: the Second Amendment. But now can we keep this going? 633 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 1: And understand? Oh, I meant to update on Yuval Day. 634 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,720 Speaker 1: I will update on Uval Day. I will also update 635 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,399 Speaker 1: you on the latest crime stats. And this story out 636 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 1: of New York City then really brings it all home 637 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,240 Speaker 1: for those of us who are sick of the crime, 638 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 1: sick of the dysfunction, and know that it all comes 639 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: from Democrats and that the midterm election is our chance 640 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 1: to finally slap this madness down. We're gonna talk about 641 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 1: somebody who's arrested over one hundred and twenty times, folks. 642 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 1: We guess what he's walking around, right yeah? Clay Travis 643 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,800 Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth