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Speaker 5: Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the Nodungks Podcast,

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Speaker 5: presented by Amazon Prime. It's Tuesday, June third, twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 5: This is our NBA Finals preview. I'm Jay Skeetz here

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Speaker 5: in the Classic Factory and alongside me, as always.

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Speaker 4: Task melis happy NBA Finals.

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Speaker 5: Everybody next to him, it's the Bearded One, a Topsha

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Speaker 5: hot boy, Trey Kirby, Hey yo, and last but not

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Speaker 5: least over Yonder making the magic happen, Super producer JD.

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Speaker 1: Hello, there he is, and here we are.

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Speaker 4: Why we do it?

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Speaker 1: That's right, what you's doing. We are here to.

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Speaker 5: Start breaking down this NBA Finals matchup that to me

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Speaker 5: feels like it starts tonight.

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Speaker 3: It does not.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately doesn't start until Thursday.

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Speaker 5: But we got a few days to really break it down.

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Speaker 5: Oka se entered this season among the favorites for the title.

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Speaker 5: They dominated the Western Conference from the start to the finish.

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Speaker 5: They won sixty eight games. They had an insane point differential.

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Speaker 5: In the playoffs, they swept the Grizzlies, they beat the

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Speaker 5: Nuggets in seven, and they got by the Wolves in five. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 5: Indiana struggled out of the gate, had a losing record

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Speaker 5: sort of early in the season. They flipped the switch

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Speaker 5: around January. They've been awesome for a very long time

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Speaker 5: now and really have defied expectations all postseason long. They

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Speaker 5: beat the Bucks in five in the first round, did

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Speaker 5: the same against the Cavs in the semis, and then

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Speaker 5: took care of the Knicks in six. But they do

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Speaker 5: come into this finals a big, big underdog that we

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Speaker 5: can maybe get into. So that schedule for the Finals

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Speaker 5: game one. Like I said Thursday night, there it is,

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Speaker 5: and we'll run at least through to June thirteenth, but

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Speaker 5: hopefully we get some more games than just four. Do

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Speaker 5: have some quick news just to throw in here. Pacers

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Speaker 5: forward Jaris Walker will miss at least the first two

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Speaker 5: injury he suffered in the Eastern Conference Finals clincher. Now,

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Speaker 5: he didn't play a whole lot of minutes in that

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Speaker 5: Most of that came in a blowout. So this is

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Speaker 5: not like an integral piece to the Pacers. But they

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Speaker 5: love to run guys out there, they do. So he's

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Speaker 5: gonna miss at least the first two. But let's break

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Speaker 5: it down, Thunder Pacers things to watch TK, you get

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Speaker 6: Don't tell anybody skates. But I'm excited for the finals,

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Speaker 6: very excited.

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Speaker 6: Fun teams to watch, and to me, the real fireworks

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Speaker 6: are gonna be when the Indiana Pacers have the ball

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Speaker 6: against the Oklahoma City Thunder defense. We're talking about the

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Speaker 6: best offense in the playoffs. I think the Calves technically

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Speaker 6: just such a fun matchup because the things that the

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Speaker 6: forcing turnovers and also playing fast. Both of these teams

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Speaker 6: It looks like I think that Lou Dort will start

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Speaker 6: They're gonna need an MVP like performance from Siakam in

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Speaker 6: Will the Pacers not turn the ball over against the

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Speaker 7: Yeah, how does the Pacers overcome this incredible defense is

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Speaker 7: the big question, and it does start with Tyre's Haliburn

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Speaker 7: the NBA finals, I should say Halburn getting into the

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Speaker 7: I do think you want some smaller, quicker players. And

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Speaker 7: That is the biggest question.

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Speaker 4: And the.

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Speaker 7: Will they be able to do the same against Hartenstein

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Speaker 5: I mean the Thunders defense is built to stop the

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Speaker 5: Like you said, it's Dort, then it's Case and Wallace.

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Speaker 5: So they just bring all these different defensive guys. And

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Speaker 5: last two seasons, Halliburton has really struggled in their matchups. Again,

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Speaker 5: se This Zach Kram stat blew my mind. Halliburton scored

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Speaker 7: So from the last four games of the last two seasons.

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Speaker 6: I just flashed back to Knicks game five. Bridges was

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Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah, obviously Dort's an incredible player. But the guys

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Speaker 7: off the bench at Kason Wallack's Yeah, I screwser gets

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Speaker 7: plenty of credit. They'll throw plenty of bodies at him

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Speaker 7: and the plenty of picks. I think they did a

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Speaker 7: And yes mckelbridge had an incredible Game five that is

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Speaker 4: We'll see how.

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Speaker 7: Haliburton can carry this into the playoffs, into the finals,

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Speaker 7: and Pascal Siakam is going to be asked to do

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 7: Pascal Siakam was able to out hustle every single New

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Speaker 7: do that against Hartenstein? Probably a little bit, you know,

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Speaker 7: that's the hustle.

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Speaker 4: We'll see that.

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Speaker 7: Obviously, this Thunder team is just good, so they're probably

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Speaker 7: gonna I think size down to j Dubb. But Pascal's

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Speaker 7: been great in game one final of NBA Finals before

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Speaker 7: and so he brings that that credit that they need,

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Speaker 7: who's only gotten better here As the playoffs have gone on,

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Speaker 5: Those shots will be there, but they're gonna have to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a huge question.

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Speaker 6: Oklahoma City gives up a lot of corner threes twelve

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Speaker 5: And going back to the corner threes, it is funny

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Speaker 5: But you know, so even if they even if that

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Speaker 5: You know, it's the one thing that they got to

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Speaker 1: That's tough. They're elite.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and those two guys are guys you don't really

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Speaker 7: There was game six in round two against the Denver

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Speaker 7: Ernie Johnson came into the clubhouse this who's winning this series?

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Speaker 7: But they came back, they showed how strong they were,

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Speaker 7: the Golden State Warriors. They got injuries against the Cats. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Can't win the finals. They can't do it.

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Speaker 1: Will never win. Of course they win.

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Speaker 1: Now. Thunder can't win. They're too young. They're way too young.

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Speaker 5: Taken their lumps yet through these postseasons, and it's like, okay,

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Speaker 7: So yeah, the support guys of shay In, Jaylen Williams

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Speaker 5: Talking obviously a lot about the stars, but who do

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Speaker 6: I mean, we're talking a lot about corner three pointers.

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Speaker 6: You got to make fifty percent of them. Basically, that's

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm looking at the Pacers defense and if they're

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Speaker 7: So it's going to be different against Shay who will

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Speaker 4: So the Pacers like to.

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Speaker 7: Let again the superstar from the other team score and

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Speaker 7: Smith injury and because he's just that good. So we'll

435
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Speaker 7: see how the supporting players will do supporting him but

436
00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,800
Speaker 7: still covered, still having a guy in front of him.

437
00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,199
Speaker 7: I think they're basically the idea is just let their

438
00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,680
Speaker 7: superstar go off and we'll stay home on the other guys.

439
00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:58,520
Speaker 5: Crumpled Jumper had a great graphic up over the weekend

440
00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,600
Speaker 5: illustrating the roster garrison between these two squads. I thought

441
00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,240
Speaker 5: it was a fun breakdown, like the similarities between the two.

442
00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,119
Speaker 5: You got the offensive superstars, the offensive engines I guess

443
00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:11,320
Speaker 5: in Shay and Halliburton, the second stars J Dubb Siakam,

444
00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:15,960
Speaker 5: the defensive stoppers dor and Caruso versus Nie Smith and Nemhard.

445
00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,040
Speaker 5: Those guys can also give you a three of course,

446
00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,400
Speaker 5: the stretch big that can protect the rim Chet Holmgren,

447
00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:25,800
Speaker 5: Miles Turner, the traditional big so to speak, Hartenstein versus

448
00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:29,440
Speaker 5: like a Thomas Bryant slash Tony Bradley sort of mixed there.

449
00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:33,720
Speaker 5: The other stretch big Jay Will versus Toppin the scrappy

450
00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:37,159
Speaker 5: point guard that comes in Cason Wallace, TJ. McConnell, and

451
00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:40,560
Speaker 5: then a bunch of wingmen that they all employ, Joe Wiggins,

452
00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:44,119
Speaker 5: ken Rich Williams versus Mathrin, Ben Sheppard, Jaris Walker if

453
00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,000
Speaker 5: he can get back by game three.

454
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Speaker 1: It's fun.

455
00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,240
Speaker 5: I mean, it's a lot of similarities there, but I

456
00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,359
Speaker 5: think it was Rosasillo said they feel the Pacers feel

457
00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:56,040
Speaker 5: like the Triple A squad to maybe the Thunders Pro squad.

458
00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,000
Speaker 5: They're just like, just in a lot of those that

459
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Speaker 5: I just went through, you're gonna give the tick probably

460
00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:02,399
Speaker 5: to okay see in a lot of those, but for

461
00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,119
Speaker 5: them to pull off this upset those things I just

462
00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,520
Speaker 5: went through the matchups, it's like they have to swing

463
00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,960
Speaker 5: to the pacer side in like four or five of

464
00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:11,960
Speaker 5: them at least for four games to pull off this

465
00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,240
Speaker 5: huge upset, which would be a massive upset again coming

466
00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,080
Speaker 5: in as like what the Thunder like minus eight hundred

467
00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:18,960
Speaker 5: at this point to win the thing. I saw minus

468
00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,080
Speaker 5: seven to fifty when we were heading in, so huge,

469
00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,520
Speaker 5: huge favorites. But it's fun how they do match up

470
00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:24,840
Speaker 5: like that.

471
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Speaker 7: The pieces wise, the Pacers like being underdogs though I

472
00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,879
Speaker 7: mean they've basically been the underdogs throughout this postseason. It

473
00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:32,919
Speaker 7: was kind of a coin flip against Milwaukee, but then

474
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Speaker 7: against Cavs, huge underdogs, huge underdogs against the Nickson.

475
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Speaker 4: Here they are around number four.

476
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Speaker 7: It's easy to make that twenty eleven Dallas Mavericks comparison

477
00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,879
Speaker 7: that won the title. Same thing happened. Then they were

478
00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,479
Speaker 7: kind of a coin flip first round against Portland, and

479
00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:51,119
Speaker 7: then they were the underdogs, big underdogs obviously with Miami

480
00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,440
Speaker 7: and the finals LA and the conference finals and okay,

481
00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:55,880
Speaker 7: see so here we are.

482
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Speaker 4: I'll do it again. Can Rick? Can Rick do it again?

483
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:00,480
Speaker 2: Yeah?

484
00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:04,520
Speaker 7: He was riding Dirk and things went obviously extremely well.

485
00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,000
Speaker 7: We'll see Rick, We'll see him with the spit Cup.

486
00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,159
Speaker 7: He'll be changing things. I mean, he did obviously an

487
00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,560
Speaker 7: incredible job in the conference finals. And you can say

488
00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,360
Speaker 7: he's got the advantage here against Mark Dagnault just because

489
00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:19,000
Speaker 7: he's been there and he was quick to pull out

490
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:23,159
Speaker 7: the ten guys. Eleven guys. I guess now without Jaris Walker,

491
00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,000
Speaker 7: how many does he have is that eleven? He's quick

492
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:27,160
Speaker 7: to make changes, that's for sure.

493
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Speaker 5: Yeah, like both of these guys do there. They will

494
00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:31,919
Speaker 5: make the move and they have so many guys, all right,

495
00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:33,359
Speaker 5: let's give you a go. Let's see if you can

496
00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,719
Speaker 5: change the game here, either with your defense or your

497
00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,520
Speaker 5: three point shooting or opening things up. So it should

498
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,320
Speaker 5: be a great coaching matchup. Can't wait to see that

499
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,160
Speaker 5: any other X factors.

500
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:43,720
Speaker 3: It's too bad Jariss Walker's out.

501
00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:45,399
Speaker 6: I think he actually could have played a role in

502
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,960
Speaker 6: this series, just because I think the Pacers are gonna

503
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,159
Speaker 6: want to play as fast as they possibly can and

504
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 6: probably would like to give him some run on Jadab.

505
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,159
Speaker 6: I think he can maybe hang with Jadab defensively, and

506
00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 6: I don't know if anybody except for maybe Siakam can

507
00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 6: do that. Nie Smith is a question mark to me,

508
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 6: just because he hasn't been moving quite as well ever

509
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,399
Speaker 6: since turning his ankle, So that's a little bit of

510
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,280
Speaker 6: a little bit of a missing X factor there. I

511
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,400
Speaker 6: guess you would probably give the experience to the Pacers barely.

512
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 6: I mean, Rick Carlisle has been there, as has Thomas Bryant.

513
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 6: He's got a championship. Pascal Siakam of course as well,

514
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 6: so they have like the tiniest bit of experience. Rick's

515
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,960
Speaker 6: gonna leave no one stone unturned, no cup unspitt in

516
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:28,280
Speaker 6: so they're gonna try some stuff. But when you're comparing

517
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 6: one of the starters for Oka see as their traditional

518
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,479
Speaker 6: center and Hartenstein to the third string center and Thomas Bryant,

519
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 6: that's tough.

520
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,119
Speaker 5: I know, I know that that's maybe the one that

521
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 5: doesn't match up quite perfectly.

522
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Speaker 3: Well, j will is not gonna probably play either.

523
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Speaker 5: So no, well, I mean you say that, but then

524
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 5: you never know with these coaches, like he'll get a taste.

525
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,359
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I think we'll get a lot of Kenrich Williams.

526
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 7: I think he'll sneak in there. He'll be playing Pascal Steed.

527
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 7: Seems to be a matchup and just X.

528
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 5: Factor to wrap it up, like to me, like Miles

529
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 5: Turner always feels like a huge X factor to the Pacers,

530
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:00,959
Speaker 5: like just his a bill, like you said, to hit

531
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,360
Speaker 5: some of those threes up top when they needed. He's

532
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 5: like really their only true like rim protection to maybe

533
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 5: put up a fight against those guys driving in there

534
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 5: for the thunder. So I think he just has to

535
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,399
Speaker 5: have like the series of his life here, Miles Turner

536
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 5: for them to again pull off the upset and win

537
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:17,639
Speaker 5: four to seven, and.

538
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 1: He can and he's milk. He's impressed at times.

539
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 5: I thought, you know, he had really strong series early

540
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,399
Speaker 5: on in this postseason, that Nicks one. You know, he

541
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,679
Speaker 5: had the gamery fouled out and couple of foul troubles

542
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 5: and other ones.

543
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 1: He was fine, he was solid.

544
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,199
Speaker 5: And had a gamer He went four for four if

545
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,239
Speaker 5: I remember correctly from deep. But he has to have

546
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,880
Speaker 5: like a really really elite series here, and that has

547
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:39,479
Speaker 5: to like be the tick for the Pacers there at

548
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 5: the center position.

549
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,920
Speaker 6: All right, well, let's get into Turner had thirteen defensive

550
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 6: rebounds against the Knicks.

551
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 1: That's it.

552
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, He's got to have like thirteen per game against

553
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,399
Speaker 6: Hartenstein and he's got to make his threes.

554
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, exactly, so he's big.

555
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, prediction time here.

556
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,160
Speaker 1: Let's do it. Where you go, I'll start with you tak.

557
00:23:58,320 --> 00:23:58,679
Speaker 4: Yeah.

558
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,199
Speaker 7: Well, I'm just doing what everybody's doing. I think the

559
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 7: thunder are going to win this series in five games.

560
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 7: The heart says five, the heads is four, but we'll

561
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 7: go five. I just I just think they are rolling

562
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,880
Speaker 7: in a way that they weren't earlier than this postseason.

563
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 7: I don't think you're gonna see a steal of a

564
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 7: game in Oka. See from the first two, like Indiana

565
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 7: was able to do it in Madison Square Garden, or

566
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 7: like the Nuggets were able to win two of the

567
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 7: first three in round number two. I just think they're

568
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,440
Speaker 7: absolutely rolling, even though these days off could be a

569
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 7: little a little bit of rest considering what happened in

570
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,399
Speaker 7: round number two with similar days off. Yeah, I've just

571
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,880
Speaker 7: got them in five, as simple as that. Nothing more

572
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 7: to say right here. That's that's where I can't wait

573
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 7: to see. I can't wait to see this first two couple,

574
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 7: first couple of games, because that's that's the time that

575
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,120
Speaker 7: the Pacers can steal them. But the aeron Nie Smith

576
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 7: injury I think is a legitimate concern there. That's he

577
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 7: is the key to their rotation and him not rolling

578
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 7: the way he was, uh you know, quite in the

579
00:24:58,880 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 7: same way.

580
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 4: It's it's important, which is good. Yeah, hopefully, I don't know.

581
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 4: I don't know. Where's that knee a little bit a

582
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 4: little bit stiff.

583
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 7: The ankle slash knee, you know, aaron Ne Smith, because

584
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:16,880
Speaker 7: his knee is always injury, but anyway.

585
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 1: You never know.

586
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 4: We don't know his injury.

587
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:18,919
Speaker 7: But he did slow down in Game six, so he

588
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 7: didn't guard Jalen Bruns in the same way.

589
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 4: But thunder and five, Yeah, I got that thing?

590
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 1: Is your prediction? TK, Where are you going?

591
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:26,880
Speaker 6: I've just been trying to think about how the Pacers

592
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 6: can possibly win this series, and it's gonna be obviously

593
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 6: limiting turnovers, shooting the ball like they've shot the ball

594
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 6: for the entire playoffs. They've been the best shooting team

595
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,439
Speaker 6: in the playoffs and they have to continue to do that.

596
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 6: And then if a game is close, they got to

597
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,440
Speaker 6: pull the rabbit out of the hat, which they've done

598
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 6: multiple times so far in this playoffs. But you go

599
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 6: and look at the odds on bet MGM. Okay se

600
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 6: in five the most common pick. Okay see in four

601
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,439
Speaker 6: is the most common pick. They think it's closer to

602
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 6: a sweep than it is a competitive series, and you're

603
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 6: not getting a lot of You can make some serious

604
00:25:58,240 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 6: money if you're going to bet on the Pacers to

605
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 6: win this series at all.

606
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 3: So I'm with task on this one.

607
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 6: Okac in five, And if I had any guts, it

608
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 6: would be okayc in four.

609
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,640
Speaker 3: But I got a lot of respect for the Pacers here.

610
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 5: A lot of people have pointed out how the Pacers'

611
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 5: resume looks pretty similar to that of last year's Dallas

612
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 5: Mavericks Indiana East number four seed, fifty and thirty two

613
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 5: record plus two point two point differential.

614
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: That's not all that big.

615
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 5: Last year's Mavericks fifth seed in the West, fifty and

616
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 5: thirty two record a plus two point two point differential,

617
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 5: so exactly the same. You know, you know the Pacers,

618
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:33,679
Speaker 5: it took them a while they had going. It was

619
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,679
Speaker 5: a lot of getting their guys back, especially their defensive

620
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 5: minded guys, and then they ran like obviously were amazing

621
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 5: in the second half of the season.

622
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 1: The postseason.

623
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 5: Mavericks, their whole thing was they made those huge deals

624
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 5: at the trade deadline, got some defense in, and suddenly

625
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 5: they were rolling. But what happened last year? Mavericks lost

626
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 5: in five to you know, the better team in the

627
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 5: Boston Celtics. I think that's why a lot of people

628
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 5: are saying Thunder and five year again, those similarities. I

629
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 5: keep coming down to two things. OKAC never lost four

630
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 5: games in any seven game span this season, so there's

631
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 5: that part. And the Thunder went twenty nine to one

632
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 5: against the East, pretty good, the best interconference record in

633
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 5: NBA history. They lost one game against the other conference.

634
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 5: That's tough. I'm definitely going Thunder. I'm with you. I

635
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 5: just go go, You go Thunder, sweep, you go Thunder.

636
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 1: Five.

637
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 5: The consensus sort of pick or is it like, is

638
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 5: this magical run of Indie like get us to like

639
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 5: a longer series. I don't think they can do the

640
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 5: impossible and win the whole thing, But can they get

641
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 5: it to six or seven? I think they can get

642
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 5: it to six.

643
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 1: I can't.

644
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 5: I do I do because I think there's gonna be

645
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 5: one red hot shooting game from deep, and there's gonna

646
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 5: be one very close game that they just feel like

647
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,479
Speaker 5: a team of destiny this entire postseason that they'll pull

648
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 5: out of their ass. So overall, Thunder's just too damn talented.

649
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 5: I'm going them in six in this finals. And maybe

650
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 5: this is me wishing and hoping for a longer series

651
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 5: and not a four or five, which we've had for

652
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 5: the last two years now. Yeah, we've had some pretty

653
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 5: like oh that team looks like the favorite.

654
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 1: Oh they're the face.

655
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 5: Oh they win in fun the last two Nuggets. Sure,

656
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 5: obviously Celtic's mavericks. And then is it gonna have the

657
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 5: same thing here with Thunder Pacers. I hope it's not

658
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 5: so I'll go Thunder and six. But uh, I do

659
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 5: see a lot of people say it's gonna even if

660
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 5: it's a four or five or six, whatever, these are

661
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 5: gonna be close games.

662
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: Are we sure about that? Maybe?

663
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 5: In Indiana, but man, the Thunder had a lot of

664
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 5: blowout victories. Like in this postseason, they crushed the Grizzlies

665
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 5: in two games. There's two close games, but they crushed

666
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 5: them in their home games. Three blowout wins versus the Nuggets.

667
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 5: Only one was a close victory in that series for them,

668
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 5: and then three blowout wins versus the Wolves and only

669
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 5: one close victory in that game four. I'm more worried

670
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 5: about that. Forget the length of the series. I'm worried

671
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 5: we're gonna have some beatdowns where it just gets out

672
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 5: of hand and we're gonna have some like thirty point

673
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 5: victories and it's kind of.

674
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: Like, Okay, what are we gonna talk about?

675
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 4: How you're really.

676
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: Gonna dive into that one again.

677
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 5: I hope I'm wrong, but I feel like that's gonna

678
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 5: be the case in some of these And maybe one

679
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 5: of those is a Pacers, you know, dominant victory, which

680
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,719
Speaker 5: also has happened to Okay. See in this postseason, when

681
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 5: they lose, they lose big. Sometimes that's right, so you

682
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 5: know that's not fun. We want close games. We want

683
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 5: to like really break down, like the final five minutes

684
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 5: and all the clutch play. But I do think there's

685
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 5: gonna be some some crazy wins here in the series

686
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 5: of the twenty to thirty point variety.

687
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, listen, we want a long series, I hope. So

688
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 7: although I just want to mention this tray Ziggy says,

689
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 7: Creating Tray would have picked in four it would have

690
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 7: been old.

691
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 6: I haven't completely loaded my muscles with ATP yet the

692
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 6: early phases here. I'm leaving for OKC in a couple

693
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 6: of hours and I've been thinking, should I travel with

694
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 6: a container.

695
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 3: Full of white powder?

696
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 4: Yeah?

697
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 5: A little risky you pulled over there, or it might

698
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 5: be like traveling you try and take your water through

699
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 5: they might make you chug all your creatine. Before my

700
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 5: other predictions in this, I do have thunder and six.

701
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 5: I'm with you, TK, I have and I'm not going

702
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 5: all the way with this, but I think through the

703
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 5: first two or three games, j dub is going to

704
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 5: be the finals MVP favorite.

705
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: Okay, early in the series, it's.

706
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 5: Gonna be like, oh, Jadub over Shae for Finals MVP.

707
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 5: I think it ultimately will go shay As Yeah, little

708
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 5: Anthony Davis. Who else comes to mind? I was gonna

709
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 5: say Jamal Murray, but that doesn't sound right. I don't

710
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 5: think he was like in the front runner for the

711
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 5: first couple of games anyway.

712
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: I think J Dubb.

713
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 5: I think he's gonna be big in this series and

714
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 5: he'll be like a finals MVP favorite through the first couple.

715
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 5: And I think TJ McConnell is going to be a

716
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 5: difference maker in one of these like strong indie performances.

717
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know why.

718
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 5: I got a feeling, man, I got a feeling he's

719
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 5: gonna have like a crazy, crazy game or half that'll

720
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 5: either get India victory or at least one of the

721
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 5: very competitive games. So those are my other two predictions,

722
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 5: A couple of blowouts. Like I said, Thunder and six.

723
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 7: TJ McConnell has been awesome at sparking the Pacers bench.

724
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 7: It feels like the Thunder had the spark to match

725
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 7: TJ McConnell in some ways, just because they have so

726
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 7: many small guys of course, and right he's ready to go,

727
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 7: but they will give him, allow him to lace up

728
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 7: that ball and shoot that three. Yeah, that'll be available.

729
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 3: How are they going to give Little TJ so many?

730
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, the Thunder liked to leave guys open, to tilt

731
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 6: their defense other ways, and TJ McConnell, he's a guy

732
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 6: to leave open, So Little TJ. If he hits, maybe

733
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 6: he'll be the dark horse MVP. A couple other things

734
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 6: I'm watching, maybe a little zone from Indiana. It worked

735
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 6: for Denver, it did not work at all for Minnesota,

736
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 6: but maybe it's time for a curve ball. Unfortunately, the

737
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 6: Thunder of practice against it. But it could work at

738
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 6: the beginning, and then you know, there's legacy questions out

739
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 6: there to Shay Gill. Just Alexander end up becoming the

740
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 6: best Thunder ever. He might have an MVP championship and

741
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 6: finals MVP in the same season. Nobody's done that for

742
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 6: this team. And Tyre's Halliburton on the flip side could

743
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 6: be the best pacer since Reggie Miller George never went

744
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 6: to the finals.

745
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 5: Definitely both in play with a victory for either team

746
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 5: for sure.

747
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's fun to watch the Pacers in an Eastern

748
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 7: conference that ain't the same as the Western Conference to

749
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 7: start that dynasty of getting to final after finals after finals.

750
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 4: So yeah, the drama.

751
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 5: Do you think Breen Burke or Richard Jefferson will call

752
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 5: McConnell little TJ like really, I don't.

753
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 3: Think about it.

754
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 4: No, they will not.

755
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 5: So, uh do we want to talk about ratings at all?

756
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 5: You guys excited for that discussion? That's gonna rear. It's

757
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 5: ugly head.

758
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 3: They're gonna be down. They're gonna be down. They're gonna

759
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 3: don't matter.

760
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,719
Speaker 6: No, No, The only reason would matter is if somehow

761
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 6: the Pacers and the thunder make it to the finals

762
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 6: ten years in a row, then.

763
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 3: It could be a problem. But then, guess what, people love.

764
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 6: Dynasties, Right, So this is going to be a short

765
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 6: term hit for the NBA for the ratings to go down,

766
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 6: but in the long run, they're building up new stars

767
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 6: who are gonna carry the ratings further down the road.

768
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: Fair.

769
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 5: I mean, we have small markets here, right, Indianapolis twenty

770
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 5: fifth largest media market in the country, Oklahoma City number

771
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 5: forty seven. But yeah, Mike Forkin off great article on

772
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 5: the athletics saying, like where the ratings land ultimately have

773
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 5: no impact really on the NBA's bottom line at all,

774
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 5: Like they just signed a massive, massive deal here, and

775
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 5: if anything, Trey said it use it to your advantage. Obviously,

776
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 5: build these teams, build these stars. That's where it's like

777
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 5: they're hoping, obviously for a longer series. The longest series

778
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 5: gore go, the higher the ratings are gonna go for

779
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 5: those games five, six, and seven. That's a no brainer.

780
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 5: But I think there's a part two of this, Like, man,

781
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 5: the league would love just competitive games and not what

782
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 5: I'm predicting, these twenty thirty point blowouts for either team.

783
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 5: They would love that because then there's some juice at

784
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 5: least to it. But last year's Finals averaged eleven point

785
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 5: three million viewers per game. That was the lowest since

786
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 5: two thousand and seven, excluding the COVID nineteen impacted seasons,

787
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 5: according to Sports Media Watch. So the average ratings for

788
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 5: the NBA Finals it's been on a steady decline over

789
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 5: the last decade, and a lot of that's cord cutting

790
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 5: and how people will consume the game and watch the game.

791
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 5: But it's gonna be worse, Like it's gonna be less

792
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 5: this year, like, so just get ready for it. And

793
00:33:58,120 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 5: I don't think we're gonna talk about it a lot,

794
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 5: but you know, other places are with to push their

795
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 5: agendas and say that the NBA is broken and basketball sucks.

796
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, relax, relax.

797
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 6: Ask the stream team what they think is gonna happen

798
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 6: in this series, and seventy.

799
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 3: Seventy two percent are picking the Thunder. Yeah, of course, forty.

800
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 6: One percent think thunder and four or five, thirty one

801
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 6: percent think Thunder and six or seven, twenty five on

802
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 6: the Pacers in six or seven, and just a three

803
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 6: percent of confident Indiana fans out there who are taking.

804
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: The Pacers in four or five.

805
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 3: That would be a shock.

806
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 5: You could make a lot of money on that if

807
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 5: you have some conviction of that.

808
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 7: One decent percentage of our fans, you know, over a

809
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 7: quarter to say the Pacer are gonna win a lot.

810
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 4: It's a lot.

811
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

812
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 5: We had we had like the YouTube post poll up

813
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,439
Speaker 5: over the last couple of days and it fell out

814
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 5: something like that. It feels like it's around seventy percent

815
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 5: saying okay, see thirty percent say in Indiana, Now, I

816
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 5: think it's a lot of people hoping it's Indiana.

817
00:34:58,520 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: You know, I think you give them the truth.

818
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 5: I think that you know, goes even more in Okasey's

819
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 5: favorite that's fine cheer who forer you want to cheer?

820
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 5: And they're damn good and they're an underdog task and

821
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 5: look they've won game one every series, right, especially that

822
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 5: one that they came back and like shocked the Yeah,

823
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 5: it probably needs to continue for them to like pull off.

824
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: The impossible here.

825
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:17,919
Speaker 5: Got to take that game one and sort of catch

826
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 5: Oksey by surprise in the sense like, holy crap, these

827
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,320
Speaker 5: guys are fast, Holy crap, they never stopped moving. It

828
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 5: has to be a shock to Okac's system. Where, yeah,

829
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 5: they've played good teams in the West, but like nobody

830
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 5: does play like Indiana, and they have to play like

831
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 5: that and somehow not turn it over. That's the fascinating

832
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 5: thing to watch.

833
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: Like they've been great at it.

834
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 3: Haven't played it against the thunder either.

835
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, with like limbs everywhere, switching everywhere, guys coming in

836
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 5: fresh all the time and bringing it on the defensive end. Yeah,

837
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 5: I can't wait to see like that awesome perpetual motion

838
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 5: offense versus in perpetual defense. Basically from OKAC and the

839
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 5: swirling action that they have.

840
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, it just feels like the Thunder have hit their

841
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 7: spots here. If you're looking back to the twenty fifteen

842
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 7: Warriors that we can that are you know, this great

843
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 7: regular season team that sixty eight wins versus sixty seven

844
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 7: wins for the Golden State Warriors. That series season game

845
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 7: in round two, Yeah, they got down to one and

846
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 7: then in the finals it was a game one that

847
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 7: went to overtime. That that game against the Cleveland Cavaliers.

848
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 7: You know the injury Kyrie injury. Yeah, yeah, that happened immediately,

849
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 7: so that that stunk. So you know you can squint

850
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 7: and say, Baser gonna steal game one. They do have

851
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 7: to take one in Okay, see whether it's.

852
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 6: There's no real Thunder themed celebration for Tyre's Halliburton to perform.

853
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 6: I guess you could like rock the Baby like Westbrook,

854
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 6: but there's not really anything else that you think of

855
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 6: that's associated with the Thunder the way the choke was

856
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 6: with the Next or Dame time with the Yea Bucks.

857
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 1: I guess you are.

858
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, if he puts the SGA in the basket, I

859
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 6: think you should rock the baby at some point.

860
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 3: We'll see if there's a post of opportunity.

861
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't want to dance like campaign or Russell West.

862
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 7: Interesting, I mean like going deep cut a weird one,

863
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 7: like if you if you get game winning shot, do

864
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 7: that pull it out I guess by the scorers table

865
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 7: or something that's weird.

866
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 6: Show up to a podium game afterwards with glasses with

867
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 6: no lenses in him in a backpack.

868
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 4: Oh ah deep?

869
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, these are options, are you giving them?

870
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah?

871
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Speaker 7: He wore black obviously to Game six of the Eastern

872
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 7: Conference Finals against the Knicks. Do you win a game

873
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 7: against okay see? And where the color that the fans

874
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 7: are wearing, like a blue shirt or white white shirt?

875
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 4: And I don't know.

876
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 5: I think if he hits a crazy game winner or whatever,

877
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 5: like he probably like maybe you take to Instagram and

878
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 5: you drop some like shade like bars, you know what

879
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 5: I mean, flip it back on him sort of go

880
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 5: that way social media. Yeah, nice trnradible that way. I'm excited,

881
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 5: Like the crowds are gonna be awesome in this okay

882
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,240
Speaker 5: see and then Indiana to awesome crowd. It's gonna look awesome.

883
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 5: I think, I like the colors are gonna look cool.

884
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,760
Speaker 5: I know, okay, he's wearing white in Game one. Pacers

885
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 5: are going gold for the entire higher rest of the postseason,

886
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 5: so that was great. And then after Game one thunder

887
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,240
Speaker 5: I think for Games two, three, and four are locked

888
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 5: in for their blue jerseys, so it's gonna pop. I

889
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 5: think a little blue and gold there between both these teams.

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00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:13,240
Speaker 1: Can't wait. We're pumped.

891
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 5: Hopefully it's a great series. But let's hear from you

892
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 5: and all of your X factors and key matchups and

893
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 5: other things that get your eye on in the comments

894
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 5: below if you haven't dropped them there in the stream.

895
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 5: Team All right, let's get to the prime moment of

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Speaker 5: the week.

897
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 7: The prime moment of the week is Tyrese Haliburton's dad,

898
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 7: John Haliburton, getting to see his son win the Eastern

899
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,959
Speaker 7: Conference Finals in person because he was banned. He did

900
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 7: have an altercation in round number one against the Ansi

901
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 7: to Koompo where he stepped into the court and the

902
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 7: nampire said do not come back until he came back

903
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 7: and was allowed to sit in the suite. And yeah,

904
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 7: he won. Do it for John an exciting, exciting moment

905
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 7: as his dad and then at the end of the

906
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 7: game he walked down to the court where it's like

907
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 7: he was the superstar. I mean, everybody supporting him and

908
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 7: cheering for him, giving me these high five.

909
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 4: There's quotes out there.

910
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 7: I told you it was gonna be better than you think.

911
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 7: John Halibert was san Cornet to her Man Toni's this

912
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 7: video from Ben Goliver is so cool. I've seeing my

913
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 7: five everybody excited to get down there. And I'm sure

914
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 7: he'll be at the Indiana home games in the NBA Finals.

915
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 4: So great moment. Dad get to hang with.

916
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: His son in person.

917
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 4: Just a cool, cool moment for him.

918
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 5: Are the Pacers doing watch parties, you know for the

919
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,839
Speaker 5: road games, like in the fieldhouse? And if so, will

920
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 5: John Haliburton be there?

921
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 4: Wow? I don't know.

922
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 7: There is footage of him at bars during this period

923
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 7: where he wasn't allowed to go to games, where he

924
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 7: was with fans and fans taking photos with me.

925
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, of course he should be allowed to go to

926
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 6: the road games in the finals.

927
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: He should.

928
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 3: And said, I don't have a case for it.

929
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 1: He's a man.

930
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 3: He should be able to go to the finals games

931
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 3: on the road.

932
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Speaker 1: Even if the rule you.

933
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 5: Want to make to like still punish him is like

934
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 5: he can't sit court side. I guess like he could

935
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Speaker 5: still be in the arena. Keep him in a suite.

936
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, right, yeah, Well, like Barkley was saying, he

937
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 7: served his time. Just free pops, free pops. He's done it.

938
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Speaker 7: He's not going to do it again. Charles said, he's

939
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 7: not going to do it again. Like, how don't you

940
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 7: know if he's going to do it again, he's going

941
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 7: to jump onto the court. I guess, not give a suite.

942
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 7: That's how you solve it, and that's how the Pacers

943
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 7: did so yeah, exactly.

944
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: Well.

945
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,760
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948
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Speaker 7: Uh.

949
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 5: You brought up Ben Gulliver with that footage good stuff.

950
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:53,399
Speaker 5: Did you see he's driving from Indianapolis to Okay see

951
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 5: for Game one because he was just there for these

952
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 5: finals and then he's doing the drive.

953
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 4: It's not as far as you think it is.

954
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,240
Speaker 1: It's well, no, I thought it was further.

955
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:02,399
Speaker 4: Yeah I did as well.

956
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: Ten hours, ten eleven hours, let's call it now. Ben Gulliver.

957
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 5: I mean he's taken days. This guy stops at everything.

958
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 5: Guy's seen every part of America.

959
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,760
Speaker 6: I'm convinced that you're gonna see every bird from Indianapolis

960
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 6: to Oklahoma.

961
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 1: So no, I love it.

962
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 4: I'm not.

963
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 5: I'm not knocking Ben Gulliver. I love following him and

964
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 5: his adventures Gulliver's travel travels on Instagram.

965
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: Like that.

966
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 7: I heard it was the closest span between finals teams

967
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 7: since like oh eight. I mean that was that was

968
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:32,879
Speaker 7: saying that?

969
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 4: Is it true?

970
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 7: I didn't do the measurements, but you know East West

971
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 7: is further than you.

972
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, these are both Midwest dish, right yeah West, Yeah.

973
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 4: For sure, So I guess it's closer ten.

974
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: Hours, eleven hour drive, don't even need.

975
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 3: To fly, I mean, oh eight, it can't be. That

976
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 3: was Celtics versus Lakers, right, yeah, so it.

977
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: Ain't that one.

978
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 4: No, it ain't that.

979
00:41:54,200 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 3: It's gotta be something in between Detroit maybe. Yeah, it's

980
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 3: far a massive state.

981
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. I have to look that.

982
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 1: And even San Antonio to Miami's good. Correct, Yeah that's

983
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 1: way too far.

984
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 3: It made great drive though around the Gulf.

985
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: So what do you get on that?

986
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 5: All right, well, this one's close, so ten eleven hours,

987
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 5: but he was he did stop, and Ben stopped and

988
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 5: took obviously a photo of the Saint Louis Arch.

989
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 3: Nice.

990
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, been there. Yeah, you can go in it. Worth

991
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: checking out.

992
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 3: You go in it, Yeah, you like go up it.

993
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 6: It's not not like a ride, but like they should

994
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 6: go over the top of that would be really cool.

995
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 6: But you can go in it and just take stairs

996
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 6: and go over it. It's got like an elevator that

997
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 6: goes up whatever percentage of it.

998
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 3: I don't know.

999
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 1: Well it hasn't. As a kid, I guess it does

1000
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 1: go up more straight than I thought at first, I think.

1001
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 3: So okay, yeah stop a Ted driz.

1002
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 6: If you go and visit the arch in Saint Louis

1003
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 6: just a just a recommendation, Okay, what is that? It's

1004
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 6: the finest custard shopping them out.

1005
00:42:58,680 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 1: Family business.

1006
00:42:59,520 --> 00:42:59,879
Speaker 3: That's right.

1007
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 7: The custard is underrated. It just is Yeah, more eggs cream,

1008
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 7: great texture.

1009
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 1: You think it's called custard.

1010
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1011
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: I think that's like they should change it.

1012
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 3: It's frozen custard.

1013
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 5: I know.

1014
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: It just doesn't sound as delicious as ice cream.

1015
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right, custard.

1016
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 1: All right, let's call it there. We got the prime

1017
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: moment of the weekend.

1018
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 5: We got our predictions in for the NBA Finals again,

1019
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 5: let's hear who you guys have winning in the comments below.

1020
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 5: TK and Esh off to ok C. Gonna look for

1021
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 5: some tumbleweed. That's yes, I am going to look for

1022
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 5: a tumbleweed. The last time we were there was like

1023
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 5: November ish. Yeah, so I don't really know when the

1024
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 5: tumbleweeds are blowing. But to this day, the only place

1025
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 5: I've ever seen a tumbleweed in my life, yeah, was

1026
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:47,879
Speaker 5: in downtown Oklahoma City.

1027
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1028
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 5: People think we're kidding when we say this, and but

1029
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 5: we were all together and tumbleweed went by us.

1030
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 6: It was a lunic Everybody was looking tall crazy.

1031
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 3: I'm gonna hopefully get in touch with Melvin and have

1032
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 3: us have them drive us around. Okay, see yeah, Deep Paul,

1033
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 3: Deep Paul.

1034
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 7: Hopefully still has those tinted windows on that car. He

1035
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 7: just drops them down. Come in for Okay, all right, sure, Melviol.

1036
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:15,439
Speaker 5: So TK and Esh in in OKAC for game one.

1037
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 5: So if you obviously see them, say hi, shout out

1038
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 5: to the two boys.

1039
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 1: Have a blast. Oh you're flying today. You're gonna drive

1040
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: how far do.

1041
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 3: You think it is? Probably like fifteen hours.

1042
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, we're not gonna no, We're gonna drive at

1043
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 6: the airport.

1044
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, okay, well that's not too long period, thankfully.

1045
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: All Right, so these guys are off.

1046
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 5: We're gonna be back probably on Thursday to get you

1047
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 5: all set for Game one of the NBA Finals, and

1048
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 5: we might have an immediate reaction podcast from OKC, TK

1049
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 5: and ESH after Game one. We'll be here for the

1050
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 5: drop at the end of the week, so lots of

1051
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 5: content of course coming up. Hit the like button, subscribe

1052
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 5: podcast listeners, five star ratings and reviews. Till then, cleb

1053
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 5: of Ros.

1054
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 3: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up.

1055
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 3: Love you guys awesome.

1056
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 4: Thanks for joining us.

1057
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 7: And remember the pacers in Thunder didn't come this far

1058
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 7: only to come this far.

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Speaker 1: Embrace the day, people,