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Speaker 1: Really readily, Donks look at us now.

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Speaker 2: Tip to Tim. This is our lives, this is our fashion,

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Speaker 2: that's the spirit we bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas,

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Speaker 2: I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: This this Morning Combat. It is December seventh, twenty twenty,

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Speaker 1: and it is time, donks for Morning Combat. Hello everyone,

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Speaker 1: My name is Luke Thomas and one half of your

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Speaker 1: hosting duo. I am from CBS Sports, as is my colleague.

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Speaker 1: He is the tie to my mule because we're getting

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Speaker 1: about that time BC. It is, of course Brian Campbell. Hi, Brian, Hi.

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Speaker 2: I would have preferred a cake to your journal at

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Speaker 2: any point as well, Luke. But I'm just happy to

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Speaker 2: be here. This is a great franchise we've built called

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Speaker 2: Morning Combat, and hopefully you can recover from the pre

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Speaker 2: show headphones meltdown. You had everything good there, Luke, We're good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, now it is now it is Nothing works until

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Speaker 1: it's supposed to and then doesn't win it. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: it just doesn't work in any kind of consistent so

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Speaker 1: it's a little bit annoying. Now, are you back in

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Speaker 1: LA tomorrow or tonight? How's his work?

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Speaker 2: No, that's next week, next week, okay.

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Speaker 1: Very good, All right, Well, nevertheless, you're trying to get

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Speaker 1: me more COVID get me? What are you doing here?

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Speaker 1: What are you doing?

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Speaker 2: What are you doing right now?

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Speaker 1: Am I trying to get you more COVID? No, I'm

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Speaker 1: not trying to get you more COVID.

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Speaker 2: The numbers are bad out there, Luke. I'd like to

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Speaker 2: spend some time in Connecticut for a while, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Yes, all right, well, you know what. Glad to see

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Speaker 1: of America. But you know that's a different story for

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Speaker 1: a different time. A lot happened over the weekend. First

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Speaker 1: things first, though, give the video a thumbs up. Hit

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Speaker 1: that subscribe button. BC had live an instant reaction for you.

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Speaker 1: For Spence Garcia, I had a breaking news video yesterday

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Speaker 1: for this thing. We're gonna get you here just a second,

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Speaker 1: this may weather news. So we're giving you lots of

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Speaker 1: free stuff. The Kayla Harrison video will be back up today.

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Speaker 1: There was the thing I had to take care of

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Speaker 2: So let me guess, Let me guess. She made a

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Speaker 2: Pat Tillman, Joe.

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Speaker 1: Yes and the Eagle called me and was like Jesus again, people,

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Speaker 1: I thought we were I thought we were through this.

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Speaker 1: I thought we had an understanding. No, it'll be back

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Speaker 1: up today. So apologies for some of those folks into her,

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Speaker 1: try Showtime to check out that Hector Camacho video or

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Speaker 1: on Friday. It was very good. I watched it with

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Speaker 1: Showtime dot com. If you like it, you can keep it.

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Speaker 1: If not, you can pound sand BC. You saw the documentary.

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Speaker 1: I saw it on Friday as well. Man, what an

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Speaker 2: It reminds you how damn long Hector Camacho's career was.

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Speaker 1: And I actually feel like they're pricing mechanism here, like BC.

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Speaker 1: They're lowering the price point, they're finding unique ways. Does

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but Floyd doesn't promote like other fighters. A lot

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Speaker 1: As because we need to end this conversation along. Thank you, Jay,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. One more point, if I may bec

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Speaker 1: I don't know what's going to happen in this exhibition

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Speaker 1: Let me get this, let me get this last point

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Speaker 1: get in shape. There's a commission oversight, and yet at

431
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Speaker 1: the same time, at least in the case of let's

432
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Speaker 1: say Jones and Tyson, there wasn't a predetermined outcome, but

433
00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:10,920
Speaker 1: they were very, very limited in what they can do.

434
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Speaker 1: You sort of got a sense that like it was,

435
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Speaker 1: it was not. They were not acting, but they were

436
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Speaker 1: kind of massaging the whole process a little bit to

437
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Speaker 1: get to a safe kind of landing there at the end.

438
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Speaker 1: It's not quite one thing, it's not quite the other.

439
00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,280
Speaker 1: And the thing the reason why it works is because

440
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Speaker 1: it's got huge star value. Right, two names you couldn't

441
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Speaker 1: possibly put together, Bam put it together. So it's like

442
00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,640
Speaker 1: a sugar high of what really makes pay per views work,

443
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Speaker 1: which is star power. What are your thoughts on that?

444
00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's that's accurate to a degree, but

445
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Speaker 2: I think you have to do it outside of the

446
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Speaker 2: United States, even with a shady state commission, even with

447
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Speaker 2: a Taichi palace. I mean, there's a forty there's a

448
00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,000
Speaker 2: you know, there's a working forty pounds weigh difference here.

449
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Speaker 2: And I've seen some you know, national pundits come out

450
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Speaker 2: and crap on this in the last twenty four hours, say, hey,

451
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Speaker 2: don't get too comfortable with this idea until we see

452
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Speaker 2: a commission. No, you don't need a mission. You go

453
00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,359
Speaker 2: to freaking another country. That's where Floyd went for Nasa

454
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Speaker 2: Kawa a featherweight in Floyd a weltzerweight. You know what

455
00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,840
Speaker 2: I mean, Like, that's what you do. Riddick Bow came

456
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Speaker 2: back by the way in Thailand a couple of years

457
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Speaker 2: ago and sad well.

458
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Speaker 1: That was.

459
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Speaker 2: What I'm saying is, if you're taking it outside of

460
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Speaker 2: the country, it's a bridge of nothing. It's an actual fight.

461
00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,719
Speaker 2: It's just not set up by a you know, a recutable,

462
00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:27,800
Speaker 2: uh safe commission. And again, if you hate this, don't

463
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Speaker 2: buy it. But uh, you know what it is is

464
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Speaker 2: gonna be a little bit interesting. I don't I mean,

465
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Speaker 2: I don't care where you come in on this. It's

466
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Speaker 2: pretty damn interesting to see it all the time.

467
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Speaker 1: Stupid. This is this is the gathering of the Juggalos.

468
00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,720
Speaker 1: It's not that interesting. If you want to watch it,

469
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Speaker 1: watch it. But the thing I really objected. No, No,

470
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Speaker 1: people are always like, if you don't like it, don't

471
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Speaker 1: buy it. Okay, mission accomplished. Don't worry about that. I'll

472
00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,960
Speaker 1: take that pepsi challenge any time. We're not allowed to

473
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Speaker 1: say we don't like it. We're not allowed to crap

474
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Speaker 1: on it. You get to praise it. I get to

475
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Speaker 1: crap on it. Like this idea that my only way

476
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,800
Speaker 1: that I should voice my opinion is just to reserve

477
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Speaker 1: my dollars. Fuck that. If I don't like something, I'm

478
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,000
Speaker 1: gonna tell you I don't like it. If I think

479
00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,040
Speaker 1: it's stupid, I'm gonna tell you it's stupid. I have

480
00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,200
Speaker 1: just as much of a right to say that as

481
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Speaker 1: somebody who loves it. So let's where all the free

482
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Speaker 1: speech idealists now, all of a sudden.

483
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Speaker 2: Look, well, tell that to all your right handed friends

484
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Speaker 2: that you get mad when they put things out there

485
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Speaker 2: in the ether. It's free speech, luke. Okay, So Tito

486
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Speaker 2: Ortiz can say whatever the hell he wants, So back down,

487
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Speaker 2: Thomas Okay, that's a dumb things, but it is dumb saying.

488
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Speaker 2: Is Look what Girmo Riggindal first came on the scene.

489
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Speaker 2: It was just out boxing dudes. A boxing writer named

490
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Speaker 2: Bill dett lof Guy Love a Lot came out and said,

491
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Speaker 2: you know what'd be really fun if we just take

492
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Speaker 2: Riggandall and put him in there against welterweights. He's so quick,

493
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Speaker 2: he's so untouchable. That'd be fun. That'd be the only

494
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Speaker 2: competitive thing. I'm not saying, Logan Paul is going to

495
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Speaker 2: be competitive with Floyd. I am saying with Floyd operating

496
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Speaker 2: in the obvious circus carnival stage of his career, I'm

497
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Speaker 2: not against him going in there against bigger guys where

498
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Speaker 2: their only chance is a functional unter's chance in a

499
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Speaker 2: larger body. Look, Nolgan, Paul has no freaking chance in

500
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Speaker 2: this fight. But I don't hate Floyd opening up a

501
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Speaker 2: new chapter in this carnival world and saying, what do

502
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Speaker 2: you got You think this big guy can beat me,

503
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Speaker 2: Let's do it. I think there's an interesting element to that.

504
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Speaker 1: Luke.

505
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Speaker 2: You could be all high and mighty and act like

506
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Speaker 2: it's not for you. This job will make me.

507
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Speaker 1: Why I dude, it's not elitists to say I like sport.

508
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 1: That's a fucking exalted position all of a sudden, that's

509
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Speaker 1: what the fucking sleeves at Versailles say. They want nothing

510
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,360
Speaker 1: but sport. It's not some elevated position. It's a totally

511
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Speaker 1: sensical one. Like the idea you try to paint it

512
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Speaker 1: as some kind of like like this is what the

513
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 1: you know, e fet fucking Parisians only eat when they're

514
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 1: eating their fucking brie and g are and bread is ridiculous. Dude.

515
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Speaker 1: To like sport for what sport presents and to say

516
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Speaker 1: this is not even close to that is a totally rational,

517
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Speaker 1: totally normal, totally baseline opinion. I don't know how you

518
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Speaker 1: could possibly say it's the province of the fucking Harvard Rowers,

519
00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 1: of the you know, of their fucking secret societies.

520
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Speaker 2: It's not well, this is from a man who listens

521
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,160
Speaker 2: to Cannibal Corpse. So I think you can accept Floyd

522
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Speaker 2: versus anyone at this point. Okay, he tested the topic.

523
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Speaker 1: It's not gonna hurt boxing. It's it's not gonna hurt

524
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 1: boxing if you want to spend twenty five dollars, Believe me,

525
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 1: it'll be fine. I'll say this last question for you, BC.

526
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Speaker 1: If they don't put it in Japan.

527
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Speaker 2: We don't hear you anymore, Luke. I don't think we

528
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Speaker 2: hear you anymore. Hey, do we hear this guy? Okay?

529
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Speaker 2: They watch, I'll meltdown to coming up over the headphones with.

530
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Speaker 1: The there we go, my back, in my back.

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Speaker 2: I think he dropped a few JC bombs right and

532
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Speaker 2: when and went right back in. So hey, praise, praise, Luke. Okay,

533
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Speaker 2: thank you?

534
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Speaker 1: All right, last lasting on this BC, very quickly. If

535
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Speaker 1: the fight is in local status videos and not Japan,

536
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Speaker 1: will you be upset?

537
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Speaker 2: I don't see how it could be in the in

538
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Speaker 2: this damn United States, although they did let Tommy Morrison

539
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Speaker 2: have that MMA fight when he had a positive HIV

540
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Speaker 2: test on in New Mexico Indian reservation in like two

541
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Speaker 2: thousand and six. Hashtag never forget, because I sure won't.

542
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Speaker 2: So I know there's corners of this this fine country

543
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Speaker 2: where anything goes, Luke. But I am telling you right

544
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Speaker 2: now this will be in Asia. Watch watch and see.

545
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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, all right, well, let's get to our first point. Thing.

546
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Speaker 1: We've got thirty minutes on this shit, let's get to

547
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Speaker 1: it now. So Errol Spence defeats Danny Garcia via unanimous decision.

548
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Speaker 1: Judges had it one sixteen one twelve on two of

549
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Speaker 1: the score cards, and then one I had at one

550
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Speaker 1: seventeen one eleven. Brian, let's go to you first on this.

551
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Speaker 1: I know you did instant reaction. First, give me your score. Second,

552
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Speaker 1: did this victory prove that not only Spence's back, but

553
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Speaker 1: he's your top pound for pound fighter.

554
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna go short here, Luke, because I actually

555
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Speaker 2: care what you have to say, because you didn't put

556
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Speaker 2: it all over the internet, which I like you saved

557
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Speaker 2: it for this show.

558
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Speaker 1: Luke.

559
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Speaker 2: You mother all right, Luke? I wow, No, No, no

560
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Speaker 2: reaction from him at all. I had at won eighteen

561
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Speaker 2: one ten for Danny Garcia or sorry for Aerol Spence,

562
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Speaker 2: which is ten rounds to two. Obviously, the score cards

563
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 2: were eight four, eight four and nine to three. Look,

564
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Speaker 2: this was a masterful boxing performance. Aerol Spence proved what

565
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Speaker 2: I said in the inner in the IA show, He's

566
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Speaker 2: not only back, Luke, he actually might be better than

567
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Speaker 2: before and better off for having gone through the scare

568
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Speaker 2: he did and the main reason obviously when he is

569
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Speaker 2: this dedicated, not putting on weight between fights, not living

570
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Speaker 2: the party life, and just back to living on the

571
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Speaker 2: ranch with the horses and the kids and focusing on

572
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Speaker 2: his craft. He's a freaking machine out there. He can

573
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Speaker 2: out box you, can out brawl you. And I don't

574
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Speaker 2: want to hear anybody put down the performance Standy Garcia

575
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Speaker 2: put in unless you're gonna criticize that in the championship rounds.

576
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Speaker 2: He didn't go reckless and leave it on the line.

577
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Speaker 2: He didn't do that to his detriment. Maybe that's why

578
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 2: he doesn't win against the uber elites. But he came

579
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Speaker 2: in in shape. He attempted the second most punch attempts

580
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Speaker 2: according to compybox in his career. In this fight, he

581
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Speaker 2: went for it. He's a tough out in this division.

582
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Speaker 2: And for Spence to come back fourteen months later, no

583
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Speaker 2: setup fight, no get well and do this on the

584
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Speaker 2: highest level. You are watching greatness. You are watching one

585
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Speaker 2: of the pound for pound best in the game, and

586
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Speaker 2: you're probably watching the best welterweight now. And I think

587
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,160
Speaker 2: the only way you're gonna prove that differently is when

588
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Speaker 2: we finally make the damn Crawford fight.

589
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I scored one eighteen one ten. Uh, I'm

590
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Speaker 1: a little surprised by that scorecard. You didn't see any

591
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Speaker 1: other rounds for Danny, even though even a five and seven.

592
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Speaker 2: Well here's here, let me tell you this. I gave

593
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Speaker 2: him five and seven. But I will say actively this

594
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 2: was a close, competitive fight, meaning it was clear with

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Speaker 2: your eyes that Spence won the majority of rounds and

596
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Speaker 2: deserves to be the winner. But Danny Garcia doesn't get

597
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Speaker 2: bodied right, he doesn't get he doesn't get reckless. He's

598
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Speaker 2: a tough ass out where he makes you work for

599
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Speaker 2: all three minutes. It's a chess match in there. He

600
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,159
Speaker 2: landed some pretty big counter shots. Maybe you didn't like

601
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 2: a strategy, maybe it wasn't enough, But in the end,

602
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Speaker 2: I gave him two rounds, but he was in nine

603
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Speaker 2: of these rounds more or less.

604
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting. Well, you know what, to your point,

605
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 1: even his father was like at the post side, Presser

606
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,360
Speaker 1: was like, he didn't throw enough punches, he wasn't active enough.

607
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Speaker 1: That's how you win. You gotta do damage. You can't

608
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Speaker 1: do all this other stuff. Damages would matter. So like

609
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Speaker 1: even his dad kind of recognized there was probably a

610
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Speaker 1: no other gear he needed to hit and he didn't

611
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 1: hit it. Look, you know what, I was a little

612
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 1: disappointed in the fight, And let me explain what that means.

613
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Speaker 1: I'm not overall disappointed. In fact, I thought what Spence

614
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,439
Speaker 1: turned in was like you It's like god, man, this

615
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 1: guy can box his ass off. I thought his jab

616
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: was on point. I thought that, you know, he took

617
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 1: a couple of rounds off a little bit in the

618
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 1: latter third, but then ended strong. He was able to

619
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Speaker 1: beat for the most part, Danny Garcia in open space.

620
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Speaker 1: He was backing Garcia up against the ropes. He was

621
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Speaker 1: lighting him on fire. He did great work in this fight.

622
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Speaker 1: The thing that kind of when I was after the

623
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Speaker 1: fight was over, I didn't have a sense of fulfillment

624
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 1: on this one, BC, And I'm trying to like examine why.

625
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Speaker 1: And just because I feel that way doesn't mean that

626
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Speaker 1: anyone else should. I'm just trying to explain my reasoning here.

627
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 1: It was that what was the story in this fight?

628
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 1: If Errol had never been in a car accident, right,

629
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Speaker 1: you would have said when they made the Spence Garcia fight,

630
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Speaker 1: there's not a doubt in your mind that Spence is

631
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Speaker 1: gonna do basically everything that he did. And I don't

632
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 1: think asking quite about the car accident were unfounded because

633
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: like you saw, we all saw the security footage of

634
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: the Porsche going assover tea kettle a number of times.

635
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 1: You know, this is like a very traumatic event. But

636
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Speaker 1: as we discussed on Friday, I believe it was like,

637
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 1: were it not for the wreck, one you would never

638
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 1: ask questions about whether Spence would do well. And two

639
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 1: it wasn't like you ever saw any footage of him

640
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: doing rehab in any kind of facility for his neck

641
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Speaker 1: or his back, or his ankle or his knee or anything.

642
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 1: He was more or less able to walk away from that.

643
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 1: And so you're like, Okay, I'm not saying that those

644
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: questions are irrelevant, but the way in which they were

645
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 1: blown up to create doubt in the end, it kind

646
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 1: of turned me off. And listen, when I say blown up,

647
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: we're part of that. Like, this is not me casting

648
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: blame on anybody else, It's me saying we were participants

649
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: in this. In the end, this fight was exactly, I mean,

650
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 1: exactly what you thought it was going to be. And

651
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: the thing that I feel like a little bit is

652
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: missing for me is not that Spence didn't perform master

653
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: but one. There was no real mystery or intrigue about it.

654
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 1: Two three rounds in you're like, oh right, this is

655
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: how it's gonna go. And then at the end these

656
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: two between Crawford and Spence, I understand Spence winning, he

657
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: has a.

658
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 2: Well save that, save that, Luke. Okay, with all due respect,

659
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 2: let me just count to you quickly. Maybe the want

660
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 2: want feeling in the end was that, even though it

661
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 2: was competitive and I thought it was entertaining, a fun fight,

662
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 2: not a fight you're gonna rewatch, not an all action classic,

663
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 2: a tactical, high level boxing match between guys who can

664
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 2: hit hard and sometimes did so. I clearly understand if

665
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 2: your takeaway is you know what, it didn't really thrill me.

666
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 2: It didn't. It was more of a showcase of one

667
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 2: guy against a very tough, you know, tree stump of

668
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 2: a guy in Danny Garcia. But the whole idea that

669
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 2: this was exactly what we thought want want, Well, look,

670
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 2: if that accident never happened, I actually would have made

671
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 2: the same prediction, which was eight rounds to four for Spence,

672
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 2: and I think we would have played up more that

673
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 2: Sean Porter and Spence's last fight really showed him different

674
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 2: angles and pushed him and made it a split decision.

675
00:29:59,600 --> 00:29:59,719
Speaker 1: Now.

676
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 2: I think think the best thing Spence did outside of

677
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 2: answering the huge questions about the physical and mental side

678
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 2: of the accident, was kind of prove the statement he

679
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 2: told me on Morning Combat was true that Porter fight

680
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 2: was super close in some ways because he wanted it

681
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 2: to be. He came out there looking for a knockout,

682
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 2: not listening to his corner, not boxing, just like in

683
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 2: the Mikey Garcia fight. He purposely boxed boring to try

684
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 2: to make a different kind of statement. I don't know

685
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 2: if you like the statements he's making or not, but

686
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 2: when he commits to them, they're pretty damn good. It

687
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 2: just turned out that miraculously almost he was not like

688
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 2: completely fine, but better than what we thought coming off

689
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 2: the accident. And I don't think you can be that quick,

690
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 2: Luke to just be like, well, maybe we played a

691
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 2: hand in building it up. Fighters are never the same

692
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 2: Luke off of things that seem insignificant sometimes in their

693
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 2: personal life. This was a monster thing. He almost lost

694
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 2: his life. I think personally, the fact that he doesn't.

695
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 1: Remember the crash was bad. But in terms of the

696
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: physical injuries he sustained, he did not almost lose his life.

697
00:30:59,240 --> 00:30:59,959
Speaker 1: That's not true.

698
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 2: And this is you're right, well, it was miraculous that

699
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 2: he walked away with just missing tea. Yes, right, that's miraculous.

700
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 2: I do I personally think the fact that he doesn't

701
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,719
Speaker 2: remember anything from the crash or that night, or the

702
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 2: three weeks that followed in which he was conscious in

703
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 2: a hospital recovering. I actually think that helped him. Luke,

704
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 2: there's not as much of a gun shyness to like

705
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 2: almost losing your life and all that. It almost probably

706
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 2: feels a little bit like a dream to him, a

707
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 2: bad dream, a nightmare, but one that changed him forever

708
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 2: hopefully and taught him a big lesson. So I don't

709
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 2: think we contributed to anything wrong narrative wise. I think

710
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 2: he just exceeded expectations, to be all damn honest with you.

711
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 2: And again, there's a small argument to make that Danny

712
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 2: Garcia at the highest level as tough as nails. But

713
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 2: is he a bit of a front runner, meaning if

714
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 2: he is not in control of the fight, can he

715
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 2: rally back? The only time I really ever saw him

716
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 2: rally back and make it close again. Was the Keith

717
00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 2: Thurman fight when he scared Thurman into boxing by shcacing

718
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 2: his power against Spence. You don't get that luxury because

719
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 2: he's so great. So, Luke, that's the only issue I

720
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 2: think you could take is well, I thought it would

721
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 2: be maybe a little bit more exciting. I thought I

722
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 2: was entertaining and tactically.

723
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: Well, exciting is not exciting. They're misunderstanding my argument. I'm

724
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: not claiming I wasn't sufficiently entertained because they didn't open

725
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: up more. I don't mind a classic battle. In fact,

726
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,239
Speaker 1: there was a lot more sort of slugging going on

727
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 1: at the same time on the MMA side of things,

728
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: between Vittory and Hermanson, which we'll get to here just

729
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: a moment. So if I wanted more action, I could

730
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: have just sort of relately turned to my computer on

731
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 1: the other side of my table. I was more invested

732
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: in this because I thought it was the bigger fight.

733
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: I was more interested. I think the thing I'm feeling

734
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: is maybe it's just a function of whatever expectation you have.

735
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: You had a certain set of expectations. I had a

736
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: difference that I think they were somewhat overlapping, But it

737
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: seems like materially different in the end, because to me,

738
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: he did everything I thought he could have done and

739
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: was going to do. And I felt like, I'm not

740
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: gonna say the media hoodwing people, that's just that's over

741
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: selling it. But I kind of felt like the reason

742
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: that the fight had intrigue was very much over sold.

743
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: That this was a fight you could have sort of

744
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,959
Speaker 1: set your watch to and the bus just shows up

745
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: on time on the route that it's supposed to show on,

746
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 1: and then it goes off and we're supposed to say, Wow,

747
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: wasn't that dramatic. Well, yes, he is a very very

748
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: if not the best fighter on the planet, maybe the

749
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 1: best fighter in that weight class, certainly one of the

750
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: best fighters in boxing today. But that's sort of what

751
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: I expect from the best fighters in boxing. I expect

752
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: him to do exactly what he did. And I don't know,

753
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: I just you're odd to me, there was To me,

754
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: it was just like it was exactly it was formula like.

755
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: Everything kind of played out the way that it was

756
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: supposed to, without any drama, without any intrigue.

757
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 2: But don't forget to praise him seriously for recovering the

758
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 2: way he did and almost being better for it once amazing.

759
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: He's amazing.

760
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 2: Is any part of your won't want feeling? The fact

761
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 2: that you could argue this shouldn't have been a pay

762
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 2: per view even if it does three hundred, four hundred thousand. Look,

763
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 2: Thurman fought Porter on CBS, right, Garcia fought Thurman on

764
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 2: CBS and they did monster numbers. If boxing, if the

765
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 2: financial landscape was a little bit different, maybe this should

766
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 2: have been a spectacular showcase Showtime or HBO or Live

767
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 2: on Fox fight and not a you know, seventy four

768
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 2: to ninety five. If that is your argument, I get it.

769
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 2: I totally get it. That's part of it. I hadn't.

770
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: I hadn't thought of it necessarily on those terms. But

771
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: that could be that, like, oh I had to pay

772
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 1: for this too. I don't know. Listen, it wasn't a

773
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 1: bad fight. It was not a bad fight, and Spence

774
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: is amazing. But it takes me out to point two,

775
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 1: which is here's the thing that also annoyed me about

776
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: this fight. BC would love to get your take on this,

777
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 1: which is Spence looked amazing. We were coming off to

778
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 1: Crawford win. He looked amazing. Over kel Brook. Right, everybody

779
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: and their brother is saying, this is the fight to make. Now,

780
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: what's interesting about it is Bud Crawford was in attendance,

781
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 1: not a mask on him, So he's gonna get the Rowner,

782
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: probably before too long. I mean, I hope not, but

783
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: you know, well, I'm not a wish I'm not wishing

784
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,879
Speaker 1: it on him, but Jesus Christ, here's my point. Both

785
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 1: guys kind of dance around the idea that they want it,

786
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: and I don't think either guy is afraid of a BC.

787
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: I think that that's ridiculous. But do I really think

788
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,959
Speaker 1: that they want it? Spence is asked after he wins,

789
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: and I know it's been a tumultuous time, and you know,

790
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: the champ can say whatever he wants because he's a champ.

791
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 1: But he gets asked about it and he's really non

792
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 1: committal about who's next. Crawford's there, but he's kind of

793
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: doing a little bit of bullshitting. The most thing he

794
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 1: did was just gonna answer Heckler's in his face. I'm

795
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: not convinced either of these guys want it, And if

796
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: they don't really want it, well shit or get off

797
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: the pot man, because there's a big part of me

798
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: that believes. Listen, they do it, but it really is

799
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: not their preference. That's really what I believe these days.

800
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 2: All right, let me tell you some truths here. Both

801
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 2: guys want it bad. Both guys understand the limitations in

802
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 2: the sport right now. And I'm not saying this to

803
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 2: excuse the sport. If you're a fan and you paid

804
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 2: and watched this fight and you're like, why the hell

805
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 2: are we not getting Spence Crawford next? Yeah, join the club.

806
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 2: These are the things that are wrong about boxing in

807
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 2: the moment. What I don't like is the people that

808
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 2: get that and live in this world and then go

809
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 2: out and write the column saying if they don't fight next,

810
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 2: you know, boxing is dead. It's like, well, no, this

811
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 2: is sort of par for the course we live in

812
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,280
Speaker 2: this here's the good news. We're probably gonna get Spence

813
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 2: Crawford in the next year and a half. Why because

814
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 2: Crawford's got one fight left on the top rank. Deal.

815
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 2: If this was a different world and setup, meaning remember

816
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 2: ten fifteen years ago, HBO was number one Showtime's in

817
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 2: the game. But HBO was sort of your number one

818
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 2: pay per view at the moment, and it was looked

819
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 2: at as sort of as Showtime was as like, any

820
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 2: promoter can come on the network, so it's a journalist

821
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 2: safe zone. Meaning after the fight, if Terrence Crawford is

822
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,320
Speaker 2: in the crowd, he's probably gonna be welcomed into the

823
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 2: ring and we're gonna have him and Spence go face

824
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 2: to face and get you fired up for the future. Well,

825
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,720
Speaker 2: we didn't see it this time. Why in some ways

826
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 2: because boxing's promotional and financial status right now is a

827
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 2: little bit where the networks are almost acting as promoters

828
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 2: and everyone's linked to whomever. But the reason why this

829
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 2: isn't all awful news is we see the light at

830
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 2: the end of the tunnel. Crawford's got one fight left,

831
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 2: reportedly with Top Rank, when a deal that runs through

832
00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 2: next October. Both Crawford and Top Rank are wearing each

833
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 2: other out publicly and basically telling you it's over. So

834
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 2: if you are PBC, Fox Al Hayman and you want

835
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 2: Crawford to come in and face your big guys and

836
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 2: be part of your team, but the deal's not signed, right,

837
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 2: You're not gonna go out of your way to sort

838
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 2: of force a commercial for something and give leverage to

839
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,919
Speaker 2: somebody that has none at the moment. I'm not saying

840
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 2: this is like great, you know, but this is the

841
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 2: reality of it all. Spence's best two options next are

842
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 2: Paqiao and Crawford. Crawford's not gonna happen until he's out

843
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 2: of his deal, and Pakiao is now a free agent.

844
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 2: He was with PBC for two fights. He's a free

845
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 2: agent now. I think this is just my ten cents here,

846
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 2: two cents to ten cents, whatever you got, Nicol and Dinamy.

847
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 2: That Spence purposely didn't mention either guy's name. Maybe I'm

848
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 2: not saying Al Haymen picked up the phone, but I

849
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 2: am kind of saying Al Haymen picked up the phone

850
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 2: and they had a conversation. Why because you're giving leverage

851
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 2: to them to a certain degree at the table by

852
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 2: mentioning them and saying you want them next. I bet

853
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 2: you er Spence, Al Haimant, PBC. They're all gonna have

854
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 2: a meeting pretty soon, and the names that will be

855
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 2: on there is Thurman, Can we sorry, Crawford, can.

856
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 1: We do it?

857
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 2: Well, not yet? Pacquiel, Well, let's talk to his people,

858
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 2: and if not, how about we get Keith Thurman in

859
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 2: a comeback fight in the you know, the big early

860
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 2: part of twenty twenty one. And how about we do

861
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 2: Thurman Spence next summer. And if that's the plan, Luke,

862
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 2: knowing that Crawford's next, we can all sit down for

863
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,959
Speaker 2: a second. Relax. Boxing's not perfect. The best don't always

864
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 2: face the best. We had away five and a half

865
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 2: years for Mayweather Paciell for a bunch of really shitty reasons. Okay,

866
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 2: this is not necessarily that we're gonna get Spence Crawford.

867
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 2: It's gonna be the biggest fight of this era. It's

868
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 2: gonna be Leonard versus Hearns of this welterweight dynasty. It

869
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 2: is gonna be everything we want and need. But you

870
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 2: gotta understand how the game works, and in the game

871
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 2: right now, Crawford's still there and he's got one more fight.

872
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 2: I don't like that Spence didn't mention their names, but

873
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 2: I get it at the end of the day, all.

874
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: Right, I get it. There's a point you're making that

875
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 1: as well as you describe the gears and how they

876
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: work in by in a very very important way, it's

877
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: illuminating every time you talk. And I certainly take I

878
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:05,720
Speaker 1: take it all very seriously.

879
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 3: Like it.

880
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 1: Take as an example, Tyson Fury fights for top rank

881
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: Bob Aaram and here you have on the other side

882
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: of Anthony Joshua, who is, by the way, fighting this weekend.

883
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 1: Will preview the fight at the end of the week

884
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 1: to get you guys ready for it. Here's the point

885
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: I'm trying to make BC even I think this weekend,

886
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 1: or maybe even today or yesterday, Tyson Fury was out

887
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 1: there taunting Anthony Joshua on Twitter, getting after him. He

888
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: won't stop bringing up his name, and I understand you're

889
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: gonna tell me the mechanics of that are very different

890
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 1: than the one between Spence and Crawford. Fair enough, they

891
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: are absolutely not identical, but some of the same impediments,

892
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: many of the same impediments, including some of the bigger

893
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 1: ones between them, are in play in very similar kinds

894
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 1: of ways. Fury doesn't care. He makes it very clear

895
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: what he wants. He does not mind giving leverage to

896
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 1: his opponent. He does not mind it in the end,

897
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 1: and he does, seemingly, at least in terms of a

898
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: public campaign, he does much more to get the fights made. Now,

899
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 1: will that be successful in the end up to In

900
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: the end, it's up to Joshua. He has to be

901
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: a partner in this as well. I don't know, but

902
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,959
Speaker 1: there's a certain amount of additional restraint that these guys

903
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: go through that is just so off putting that at

904
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: least the world like Tyson Fury, he doesn't do that

905
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 1: to the public, and I feel like there should be

906
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 1: some acknowledge.

907
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 2: I'll validate what you say, and I will say this.

908
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 2: I would rather live in a world where both Spence

909
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 2: and Crawford after each fight come out in the mic

910
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 2: and say, I don't care how it happens, but I

911
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 2: need to fight that other guy next. So hey, promoter

912
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 2: and make it happen. And look credit to Crawford. He

913
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 2: did that last fight. He had Bob Aarram next to

914
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 2: him and he said, talk to this guy, we need

915
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 2: to make this fight happen. So that's good. Again, what

916
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 2: I've liked Spence to come out, yes and use those words.

917
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 2: But also Luke, he gets where he's at. He knows

918
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 2: they have to come to him now. So he kind

919
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 2: of sat back and said, yep, going back to the ranch,

920
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 2: gonna buy some horses, gonna be with my family and

921
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 2: we'll figure out what's next. That's a message to everybody

922
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 2: else that you're not getting fifty to fifty against me.

923
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 2: Come to the table, we'll see. Is this a fallout

924
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,479
Speaker 2: of the the Floyd way of doing things? Maybe? But again,

925
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 2: I mean membership has its privileges in this wild wild West.

926
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 2: When you become a star. And this is now three

927
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 2: straight a side roles for Errol Spence in a pay

928
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 2: per view that all three we're gonna guest sold. You know,

929
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 2: above expectations, you're gonna have that power. But yeah, Luke,

930
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 2: I love I'd love the UFC set up. Please. Yeah,

931
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 2: the best they're gonna face the best. All I'm saying

932
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 2: is we're gonna get it, Luke, We're gonna get Crawford Spence.

933
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 2: And I said this in the iahhow and I want

934
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 2: to hear your take. No, I want to set you up, Okay,

935
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 2: I want to hold you from underneath and set you

936
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 2: up here. I was a Spence guy in this matchup forever,

937
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 2: and then I crossed back over into Crawford territory because

938
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 2: he is more dynamic than Spence. Spence a Southpaw, he

939
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 2: can do it all, but Crawford doesn't paint by numbers right,

940
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 2: He's he can switch stances, he can create opportunities. I

941
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 2: feel like last night or Saturday night was such a

942
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,919
Speaker 2: thorough performance, I might be a Spence guy again, Luke,

943
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, when he's able to box at that level,

944
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 2: you know the power punching is there's Well, these two

945
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 2: guys are old school. That's why this fight's gonna rule.

946
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 2: They are so old school nineteen eighties four kings. They

947
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 2: want to go in there and fight. Luke, I got

948
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,479
Speaker 2: Spence right now, by a hair. Where do you stand

949
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 2: in this great matchup which I think we will get

950
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 2: in the first quarter of twenty twenty two.

951
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: This is BC talking if I mean, you know, another

952
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: October from now is a long time. I mean you're

953
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 1: sort of making out to be like not that big

954
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 1: a deal, and maybe in the end it won't be.

955
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 1: But at the moment we say this, it feels like

956
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: a long time, which is why I'm like, why can't

957
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: Crawford about his deal? But okay, different conversation for a

958
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: different time. My feeling watching Spence on Saturday is that overall,

959
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 1: if the fight went the distance, Spence might win more rounds,

960
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: but he might get dropped a couple of times. He

961
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: Crawford would do what Danny Garcia did, only better. There'd

962
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 1: be times where you see Crawford laid back and he's

963
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: really kind of sort of thinking about it and setting

964
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: it up, but Danny never really got out of that.

965
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 1: Crawford would then make some adjustments and some switches, perhaps

966
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: some substance of ones stances, you know whatever. And dude,

967
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 1: that hook he hit kel Brook with the timing on that,

968
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,439
Speaker 1: the little window in which he found a thudding punch

969
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 1: to go through. Garcia doesn't have that, He doesn't have

970
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 1: it in nearly the same kind of way. So to me,

971
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 1: if Spence wants to be more active and to not

972
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,280
Speaker 1: take the lead, he would win the majority of the rounds.

973
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 1: But the question is how many times would he get

974
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: dropped along the way? What would they do to the scoring?

975
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 1: And if anyone's going to stop anyone in that contest,

976
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,760
Speaker 1: Crawford's gonna stop Spence. Spence is not gonna stop Crawford.

977
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: So dude, it's a hell of a fight if they

978
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,720
Speaker 1: end up fucking making it, or they're gonna be forty

979
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: and you're gonna be telling me in six years. Pc

980
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 1: BC it's gonna be six seven years from now, Crawford's

981
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: gonna be forty years old, and you're gonna be like, dude,

982
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 1: buy the exhibition. It's eight rounds two minutes. Sure, they

983
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 1: didn't fighting their pride.

984
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 2: Look, but this is a chance it could be the referee. Quickly,

985
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 2: let's just talk real quick, because you know, some people

986
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 2: got into my comment section. We're like, how could you

987
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 2: say Spence is a better resume than Crawford? Right now?

988
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 2: Wake the f up, guys. First of all, I'm talking welterweight,

989
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 2: not one forty where Yes, let's give Crawford credit. He

990
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 2: brought all four titles together at welterweight, though, what the

991
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 2: hell are we talking about. Here's who Spence is freaking

992
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 2: beat Mikey Garcia, Danny Garcia, Lama Peterson, Sean Porter. I mean,

993
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 2: come on, like this is this is getting ridiculous. This

994
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 2: guy's putting together a resume of this eerror that matters.

995
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 2: Crawford's not there at welterweight, so Porter's in the driver's chair.

996
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 2: He'll get the sixty of the against the forty Luke

997
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 2: and Hills there.

998
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,240
Speaker 1: Well, listen, we've done forty seven minutes straight on boxing

999
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 1: before our audience.

1000
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 2: We've lost our whole audience.

1001
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: We just lost everyone. They have tapped out MMA style.

1002
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 1: So let's switch things up. Let's go to point number

1003
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 1: three if we can here, and let's get into the

1004
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: UFC side of things. It was the UFC COVID sixteen

1005
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: where a bunch of changes happened to this card. We'll

1006
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: talk about a little bit later, but for right now,

1007
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: let's talk about that amazing main event. Marvin VITTORIBC and

1008
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: we talked about it on Friday. I think I was

1009
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 1: the one that said it where you agree to where

1010
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 1: we were, like, you know, her Manson has done amazing things,

1011
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: but you know, maybe Victoria has been kind of overlooked

1012
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 1: in his career and I'm waiting for him to take

1013
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: a big step up. Well, that is exactly what this

1014
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: guy did. He wins in the main event UFC Vegas

1015
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:15,320
Speaker 1: sixteen BC. What did Marvin Vittori prove to you on Saturday?

1016
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 2: Well, first, I just want to say that both guys

1017
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 2: proved to me that they're of a special ilk because

1018
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 2: they went out there for five rounds in a similar

1019
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:28,399
Speaker 2: manner to what Dustin Poorier and the damn CKBI guy

1020
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 2: you know what I'm talking about, the white guy, oh

1021
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 2: Dan Hooker. The way that Hooker and Poorier just emptied

1022
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 2: the tank for five rounds in an important title positioning

1023
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:41,240
Speaker 2: fight reminded me of how these two guys fought on Saturday.

1024
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 2: I was humbled. It was such a fun and an

1025
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 2: increasingly brutal fight. But yes, Vittori made a massively forward

1026
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 2: look out of everything he showed there, and it was

1027
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 2: a lot right good, good ground game, you know, increased

1028
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 2: striking in terms of just just the swiftness and the

1029
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 2: setup of of his punches and combinations where we just

1030
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 2: kind of, or at least I in my head that

1031
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 2: thought of him as more of just a plotting guy

1032
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 2: who walks you down, but most importantly the pace and

1033
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 2: the cardio. Look, it's a leap luke. When you are

1034
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 2: somebody who can knock dudes out and you look pretty good, well,

1035
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:13,839
Speaker 2: what are you gonna do going five rounds with the champ?

1036
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 2: This is why I do like the five round main

1037
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,320
Speaker 2: event of the of the Fight Night cards. You know,

1038
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 2: it doesn't work in every matchup, and sometimes it really

1039
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 2: exposes somebody, but it also really can show you if

1040
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 2: someone's ready. Marvin Vttori was ready because he had to

1041
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 2: go through hell. He had to take some stiff ass

1042
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 2: shots and I don't want to discount the balls on

1043
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 2: her Manson to fight through all the things he did,

1044
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 2: and we saw the picture of him in the hospital afterwards.

1045
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 2: But victory one thousand percent showed you that he is

1046
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 2: a legitimate title contender. Not right away. He's calling out afterwards,

1047
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,399
Speaker 2: Paulo Costa and I got a heart on from here

1048
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,320
Speaker 2: to to you know, Cincinnati, getting fired up for the

1049
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 2: idea of what that would look like, Luke, But uh yeah,

1050
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 2: this guy. Look, these are the fights that show you that.

1051
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 2: And there's another level to get you, which is would

1052
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 2: we actually believe he can win the championship? And he's

1053
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 2: got he's gotta beat the guy next in line to

1054
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 2: get there. But he crossed that first hurdle. He's of

1055
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 2: that ilk to contend for one, and I'm happy to

1056
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 2: see that for a guy who's had a lot of

1057
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 2: ups and downs the last couple of years and had

1058
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 2: a lot of trouble getting in there, and him with

1059
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 2: the completely shaved head, he looks like an absolute fricking psycho.

1060
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 2: In fact, be disrespectful, but he looks like the damn

1061
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 2: ogre from Goonies at a Chunk, you know, when he's

1062
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 2: all bloody and the teeth and stuff, but shout out

1063
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 2: great performance.

1064
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,399
Speaker 1: He reminded me of Tom Hardy's in this movie where

1065
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: he plays a dude in prison. He's got a bald

1066
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: head with like a total cock in the accent. I

1067
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,879
Speaker 1: forget the name of the movie, but he remind Butcher

1068
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: or something. I forgot.

1069
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,439
Speaker 2: I was dead wrong. It's not Chunk. Who's the damn

1070
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 2: ogre in Goonies? What's the guy's name? Before I get

1071
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 2: another dead wrong put on me.

1072
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,879
Speaker 1: I thought it was or was Chunk the fat kid.

1073
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 2: Chunk was the fact.

1074
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 1: Hey you guys, yeah that guy?

1075
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, thank you?

1076
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 1: All right, Well here's the points Sloth.

1077
00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 2: There we go, sloth, thank you so.

1078
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 1: Sloths on the He says, right, BCE. People don't realize this,

1079
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: and I didn't realize it either till I looked it up.

1080
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 1: Marvin Vittori first fought in the UFC when he was

1081
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 1: twenty three years old. Twenty three. He's only twenty seven now.

1082
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 1: He is younger. I believe I could. I might get

1083
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: dead wrong for this, but I believe he's either at

1084
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:20,720
Speaker 1: the same age or even a little bit younger than

1085
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 1: Adasignya was when Atasignya fought Vittori. I mean, he's very

1086
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: very young, and he came into the UFC, and he

1087
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: beat a couple of guys who were no longer the

1088
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,800
Speaker 1: organization he had to draw and a couple of losses

1089
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 1: along the way. But we talked about this with Yan Blohovich,

1090
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: who was a little bit more senior in age by

1091
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 1: the time he made the organization. But listen, sometimes when

1092
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 1: you make the jump to the big show, whether by

1093
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: age or by development or a combination of the two,

1094
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 1: maybe you're not quite you're good enough to be there,

1095
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 1: but not necessarily to stand out. And he gave out

1096
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 1: Asiannya a pretty tough fight. But what it goes to

1097
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 1: show is, from twenty three to twenty seven, you're gonna

1098
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: make if you're if you are actually pretty talented, and

1099
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 1: he is, you're gonna make big leaps, You're gonna make

1100
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 1: big jumps, You're gonna make big improvements. And I don't

1101
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 1: think the UFC necessarily match him wrong given what they

1102
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 1: had showed, what he had showed, which was some ability

1103
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 1: but some limits as well. But now it's pretty clear

1104
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 1: that he and Ralphie excuse me half El Caudero have

1105
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: really put in the work over these years and put

1106
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: in the time. Dude, that's a guy that's going to

1107
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 1: probably jump into the top five of middleweight. He was

1108
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 1: at twelve before the contest. What a signature win by him,

1109
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 1: a signature performance. And you know, he has this bit

1110
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 1: of a meathead reputation, and maybe he is, but when

1111
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: he fights, he's got at least in this particular occasion,

1112
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: he had patience, he had strategy that was involved, he

1113
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 1: had execution about to his strengths, and you know, working

1114
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 1: on the things that he was supposed to in terms

1115
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 1: of his defense responsibility there for the most part, although

1116
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 1: those two kind of went at it in the end.

1117
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: I mean, it was such a really mature performance from him.

1118
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 1: That's the thing I want folks to take away. It's like,

1119
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: how good is victory's upside?

1120
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 3: Do?

1121
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: We haven't even scratched the surface. The guy is still maturing.

1122
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,280
Speaker 1: But this was the first real moment that he rounded

1123
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,760
Speaker 1: a big corner in his career and beat a real opponent.

1124
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: And by the way, credit to Jack Herman's who had

1125
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: a broken foot and a broken face and still took

1126
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 1: at least one round on the judge of scorecards, after

1127
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 1: being ten aighted in the first round, may have taken

1128
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: even two rounds depending on your individual scorecard. What hustle

1129
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: and grit and determination from him as well, had bomb

1130
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 1: but whatever.

1131
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 2: Out back, Jack landed some bombs tar the tail end

1132
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:21,919
Speaker 2: of that fight. I mean, he was never really out

1133
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 2: of it, so you give him credit. But to double

1134
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 2: down on what you just said right there, let's not

1135
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 2: forget that Vittori took this fight on last minute notice.

1136
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 2: Was supposed to be fighting Jock Ray in a couple

1137
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 2: of weeks. So while this was you know, UFC Fight Night,

1138
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 2: COVID sixteen for sure, and you know we almost saw

1139
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 2: Floyd versus Logan. Paul pushed up to this card just

1140
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 2: to make sure they had enough fights on there, Luke.

1141
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,240
Speaker 2: It also is breeding opportunity. We saw that in justin Gatchee.

1142
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 2: We've seen that in the three or four fighters who

1143
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 2: have jumped off and fought four or five times this year,

1144
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,879
Speaker 2: the Comzots and Kevin holland all those guys. But we're

1145
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 2: seeing it now in Vitori. To be able to take

1146
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 2: advantage of the opportunity and then be better than we

1147
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 2: thought he could be. And I mean Hermanson had won

1148
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 2: what six to seven coming in that was a tough

1149
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 2: at Remember that little gross bag with the two wavos

1150
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 2: in it and the gross liquid that you couldn't pay

1151
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 2: me four million dollars to shoot that liquid, Luke. That

1152
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 2: represents what both guys brought to the table. You love

1153
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 2: to see that, Luke. You love to see people rise

1154
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 2: to the occasion. I don't know what you give somebody

1155
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 2: when they lose a fight and put that much into it.

1156
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 2: I mean, did you see that video that's lingering, Luke,

1157
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 2: that UFC put together of the fallout of the Pourier

1158
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 2: Hooker fight, and they showed how badly damaged both guys

1159
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 2: were backstage afterwards. They had just fought the fights of

1160
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 2: their lives. And you're like, man, don't even tell me

1161
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 2: what Dan Hooker made for that fight, because it was

1162
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 2: not enough. Don't tell me what this guy Jack Harmanson

1163
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 2: made either, because I don't know how you live with

1164
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 2: yourself when you put it all on the frickin' line

1165
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 2: like that and don't get the win. But it was

1166
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 2: for our pleasure, Luke, And thank you to both guys.

1167
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 1: Lastly, he wanted Marvin Vattori in a post fight speech

1168
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 1: that was largely blurred out and covered up because of

1169
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 1: all the F bombs. Still it was spirited. He wants

1170
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 1: Paulo Costa, BC, How did you go wrong with that one?

1171
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 1: Marvin Vttori taken on Paulo Costa. We talk about Marvin Vttori.

1172
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 1: He's interesting, right, he's still getting his strengths. You know,

1173
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 1: he's building brick by brick, But what is he really

1174
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 1: good at? Strong? Sturdy, good fundamentals. Now more patient? Holy Jesus, BC,

1175
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: how do you not love that call out? Dude?

1176
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 2: And I don't know how he has this level of patients,

1177
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 2: which you rightly you know, affirmed him for Remember we

1178
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 2: saw him in the hotel lobby earlier this year when

1179
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 2: his opponent couldn't make way and pulled out. He almost

1180
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 2: killed a man. But yeah, this is the all I mean,

1181
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 2: there's the ultimate test and you have to believe that

1182
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 2: if they make this fight, Paulo Costa has a lot

1183
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 2: of explaining to do about himself after that that egg

1184
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 2: he laid against at Asnia. So this is great, and

1185
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 2: you know what's great about being opportunistic and getting this

1186
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:55,839
Speaker 2: chance for a Vittori is having the storyline with aut

1187
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 2: Asnya is going to help him get there faster, Luke.

1188
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 2: It's going to help make making that rematch easier for

1189
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 2: the matchmakers. And maybe it's rightfully so for him, knowing

1190
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 2: how hard of a road he's had to get back

1191
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 2: here and get back into contention. Gotta keep winning. Being

1192
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 2: a guy like Coasta good Lord is not you know

1193
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 2: good That's not an easy night at the office for anybody.

1194
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 2: But if he does it, Luke, there'd be nothing stopping

1195
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 2: him from getting that out of Sonia title unless out

1196
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 2: of Sonya completely leaves the division. So yes, yes, yes,

1197
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 2: all right, yeah.

1198
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 1: Point number four, Speaking of the middleweight division, BC point

1199
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 1: number four, let's go to it now. Joel Romero has

1200
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:34,800
Speaker 1: been released by the UFC. I cannot get any clarity

1201
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 1: on whether he asked for it or not, but either way,

1202
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 1: they have parted ways and in fact, he had three

1203
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 1: fights left on his deal. The initial news was reported

1204
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 1: by ESPN's Ariel Hawani. OKABC, let's go to you on

1205
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,800
Speaker 1: this one. Was this the right call for both fighter

1206
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 1: and promoter or just the right call for one of them?

1207
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 1: How do you view this news, I'm shocked.

1208
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 2: Let me first just sit in this puddle. I'm shocked

1209
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 2: absolutely that this would happen. Luke, is this signal because

1210
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:02,800
Speaker 2: we did see Dana White sort of say there'd be

1211
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 2: more to come for a guy who a promoter who

1212
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:09,879
Speaker 2: works so hard to get the you know train back

1213
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 2: on the tracks this year. And again I'll give the

1214
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 2: UFC credit for days for what they pulled off. There

1215
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 2: was a lot of like, well, nobody lost their job.

1216
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 2: Well are we going to see a big round of

1217
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:20,320
Speaker 2: layoffs here? Because if this is the first sort of

1218
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 2: the first giant domino to fall, this is a surprising one.

1219
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,439
Speaker 2: Now what it makes sense from the idea of here's

1220
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 2: a guy who's older, the windows closing. Even though he's

1221
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,240
Speaker 2: a freaking nature and he's not slowing down, he probably

1222
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:35,800
Speaker 2: demands a higher, you know amount of money than a

1223
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 2: younger guy coming in. And we know Dana loves the

1224
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 2: contender guys because they don't make anything and they fight

1225
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:43,439
Speaker 2: their balls off. So maybe it makes more sense long

1226
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 2: term strategic financially than we realize. If it's followed by

1227
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 2: a bunch of similar aging names like I don't think

1228
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 2: Chris Widman's gonna get let go. But let's say Chris

1229
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 2: Widenon got let go after this, You'd be like, oh

1230
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 2: my goshal right, right, you'd be like they are really

1231
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,720
Speaker 2: looking to clean house and get the higher priced guys

1232
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 2: who aren't as valuable anymore off of the of the ledger,

1233
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:07,839
Speaker 2: then it would make a lot more sense. But if

1234
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 2: this turns out to be just a one off, Luke,

1235
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 2: it's weird. Look. I never thought you have seed let

1236
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 2: Corey Anderson go, who didn't bring them a lot of

1237
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:16,479
Speaker 2: financial upside, But they kind of let him go easy

1238
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 2: and said, yeah, go ahead, go to belator. We don't

1239
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 2: think you can sell anyway. Romero makes fun fights, Luke.

1240
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 2: I know he brings some you know, a little bit

1241
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 2: of baggage with that, with missing wait a lot, and

1242
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 2: you know he didn't fight so aggressively against at Asania.

1243
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 2: But uh, this is really weird to me and it

1244
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 2: really begs the discussion now if where does he go?

1245
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:35,840
Speaker 2: Because that window may be small, but that window is

1246
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 2: going to be freaking explosive. I think this is a

1247
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:40,399
Speaker 2: big pickup for anybody, Luke, whoever goes after him.

1248
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 1: I don't know what to make of this news in

1249
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 1: terms of what it means for you, Well, Dana White said,

1250
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:48,840
Speaker 1: the guy had lost four or five or something like that,

1251
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 1: and if you look at it, he had lost to

1252
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 1: the current champion, he'd lost twice to the previous champion,

1253
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 1: and he'd lost the number one contender. Now, I thought

1254
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 1: he beat the number one contender in Paulo Costa, and

1255
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 1: I thought, I've never seen the lose one one of

1256
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 1: those times them lose a decision.

1257
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 2: I've never seen it.

1258
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 1: Right, exactly right, I know what you mean, So listen,

1259
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:09,919
Speaker 1: but the record shows with the record shows he's forty

1260
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 1: four years old, and he probably does command a bit

1261
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,320
Speaker 1: of a higher price tag than the you know, another

1262
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 1: fighter with some kind of a sort of a similar

1263
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 1: ish record, So in that sense, it's not all that surprising.

1264
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 1: And you're right, like, if they release like a showgun

1265
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 1: or somebody a little bit longer in the tooth who's

1266
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 1: not quite done but you know, doesn't have their brightest

1267
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 1: days ahead of them, then maybe we'll all come to

1268
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,439
Speaker 1: understand this a little bit better. Here is the part

1269
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 1: of the argument from folks who are worried about this

1270
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 1: that I'm not I'm not saying it's wrong because I

1271
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 1: don't know that it's wrong, but I'm skeptical about it

1272
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,839
Speaker 1: being right, which is, Oh, what the UFC is doing

1273
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,399
Speaker 1: is getting rid of these expensive guys who are still

1274
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 1: good and might be fan favorites, and they're going to

1275
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 1: replace them with a bunch of Contender Series guys and

1276
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 1: hopes no one notices. Well, to some extent, there probably

1277
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 1: is a little bit of truth to that. No matter what,

1278
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:58,399
Speaker 1: there is necessary turnover. The Contender Series has been really

1279
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,879
Speaker 1: the UFC's main method of signing folks because regional MMA

1280
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 1: has ground to a near not complete, but near halt.

1281
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 1: So yeah, like there's going to be a lot of

1282
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 1: that used as a mechanism for even natural turnover. In

1283
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 1: that sense, I think that's probably quite fair. On the

1284
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 1: other hand, BC one, there are about five hundred NBA

1285
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 1: players total. There are almost seven hundred UFC fighters. The

1286
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 1: UFC does not need more fighters than the NBA has

1287
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 1: players number one, number two? Am I really supposed to believe?

1288
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 1: By most estimates that let me back up a step.

1289
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 1: By most estimates, the UFC has around eighty eighty five

1290
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 1: sometimes ninety percent. You know, it's always in fluctuation of

1291
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 1: the premier talent in the sport. It's been measured a

1292
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 1: few different ways, but that is generally the way that

1293
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 1: it comes out. Am I really to believe that they're

1294
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 1: going to substitute that out for cheaper fighters and just

1295
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 1: hope no one notices like they're going to really give

1296
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 1: away important parts of their organization to their, if not competitors,

1297
00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 1: smaller organization and change the way in which they have

1298
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 1: a grip on the industry. I'm not saying there won't

1299
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 1: be painful cuts, you see. I'm not saying they won't

1300
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 1: be surprising cuts. What I am saying is and we'll

1301
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 1: see what happens, because I don't know. I am skeptical

1302
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 1: of the idea that they're just gonna give away big

1303
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 1: parts of their roster and this will change the UFC

1304
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 1: in some way where it becomes a much more water

1305
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 1: down version of itself. A little watering, maybe a lot. Yeah,

1306
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 1: I want to see what happens first.

1307
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to give UFC a ton of credit

1308
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 2: from the standpoint of they made the brand the strongest

1309
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 2: thing even to this day, even you know, like they're

1310
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 2: less reliant even on a McGregor with the new pay

1311
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 2: per view deal. The brand is the strength We've seen

1312
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 2: it so many times the Contender series. Fights are really fun,

1313
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 2: and those guys are becoming contenders seemingly out of nowhere

1314
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 2: right away. In people are expendable, Luke, and there are

1315
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 2: a lot of aging names who do I mean Overy

1316
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 2: makes a shit ton of money. Have you ever seen

1317
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 2: his guarantees, Luke? Compared to everybody else.

1318
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 1: He gets like eight hundred grand a fight or something something.

1319
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, no upside, but like a solid eight hundred grand

1320
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 2: when his opponents are making like, you know, eighty six

1321
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 2: thousand or something. So what I'm saying is guys like

1322
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 2: that I would seem like in this, you know this

1323
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 2: tough times. And look, these are tough times. Every company's

1324
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 2: going through this, and it's not ridiculous in your company.

1325
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 2: Maybe you work at you know, A and w Insurance.

1326
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 2: That Bob from accounting around the corner Mans. He's pretty

1327
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 2: good at his job. But he's like fifty two years old, Luke,

1328
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 2: and he draws a salary of like one hundred and

1329
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 2: thirty thousand because he's been here since the seventies. We

1330
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 2: can get a kid out of college for you know,

1331
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 2: a third of that, and that's just the reality of life.

1332
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 2: So I do think we're gonna see a little bit

1333
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 2: more of that. I think they're gonna be strategic though

1334
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 2: they don't want to put somebody out there in the

1335
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 2: market who can instantly raise the platform of a contending promotion.

1336
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 2: But none of these names we're throwing around can in less.

1337
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 1: Luke.

1338
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 2: If you are Scott Coker, okay, and you have said,

1339
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 2: you know, I don't really need Anderson Silva. We're doing

1340
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 2: our own thing, and they're doing their own thing just fine,

1341
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 2: by the way, But if you are Scott cokeer, do

1342
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 2: you place two phone calls right now, one day Henderson Silva,

1343
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 2: one to Joel Romero and the third to whoever helps

1344
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 2: you set up your pay per views, and you go, hey,

1345
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 2: I got a ten pole idea. We're going back on

1346
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 2: pay per view. We're gonna load that cart up with

1347
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 2: our best guys. We're gonna have Andy Silva and Joel

1348
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 2: Romero and we'll see you soon. Boy, I'd be there

1349
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 2: with all the shekels, Luke, I.

1350
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 1: Mean, as it relates to as it relates to Ul Romero.

1351
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 1: Here's the other part about it, that folks have to

1352
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 1: accept whether you thought he won those fights that he

1353
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 1: didn't find again. I thought he should have won a

1354
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 1: couple of them, but the reality is he didn't. If

1355
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 1: you're Euol Romero, you've lost to the champion, the former champion,

1356
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 1: and then the former number one contender. You have a

1357
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 1: path back to the title, but it's probably a very

1358
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 1: very long one, or you got to change weight classes,

1359
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 1: or do's a bunch of stuff, and maybe the UFC

1360
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 1: warned him to do it and he wouldn't do it,

1361
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 1: so they parted ways. Love to see what the story is.

1362
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 1: There's a lot about this we don't know yet too,

1363
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 1: which is, you know, complicating the analysis of it. But

1364
01:00:56,520 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 1: if you're Uol Romero, you're still pretty good. I think

1365
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 1: even UFC would say he's still pretty good. Dude. You

1366
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 1: can go to another organization of Bellatour A one or whatever,

1367
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 1: and maybe you win a title, maybe you don't, but

1368
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 1: you're still gonna do well. You might get a decent

1369
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 1: amount of pay in the process, something either commensurate or

1370
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 1: pretty close to it. You're gonna get sponsors that will

1371
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 1: make up some of the difference, or you know, exceed it.

1372
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. In other words, there's a lot of

1373
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 1: reasons why a refresh at this stage for his career.

1374
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 1: Maybe that's not what you wanted or what I wanted,

1375
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 1: but it's not the end of the world for his

1376
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 1: career more generally, So we'll just have to see how

1377
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 1: it goes there. The one thing I would say about

1378
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 1: Bellatour is being an option for him, and again, he

1379
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 1: very very well may go there. Corey Anderson just did.

1380
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 1: As long as they're doing Thursday night fights, I mean,

1381
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 1: my understanding is eventually that this won't be forever. I

1382
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 1: don't know when it will change. But while they're on

1383
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 1: Thursday nights, they're gonna be limited what kind of fights

1384
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 1: they're gonna put on. They're not gonna put on like

1385
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 1: big expensive ones because that's not the biggest time to

1386
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 1: get the biggest audience A Saturday night is. So when

1387
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 1: they make that move to a tent pole event on

1388
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 1: a Saturday, then you might see a lot more interest

1389
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:02,440
Speaker 1: in your Romero's or your Silva's. So just pointing out

1390
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 1: beltore maor may out sign him. I don't know what

1391
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 1: their plan is, but a marquee fight is something that's

1392
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 1: they're not really doing right now.

1393
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 2: Yeah they're not, you're right, but if they do, obviously

1394
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 2: in the sense of the Vicom CBS merger when you're

1395
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 2: in the same family as Showtime Man Big CBS and

1396
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 2: there's history there for both of going there. Hey, if

1397
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 2: you're shatri okay, do you call up and say, hey,

1398
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 2: you want to fight Vitor Belfort?

1399
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, you could do that. You could do that. But

1400
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 1: does one really have money? I don't know if they

1401
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 1: have money. They say they have money, but they say

1402
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 1: lots of that.

1403
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 2: We'll find out in court one day, Luke, but I

1404
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 2: will say that, you know, if if you wanted to

1405
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 2: go into boxing, you al Rameril. Let's not forget that

1406
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:43,440
Speaker 2: his brother was former Cruiserweight world champion. Yoann Pablo Hernandez

1407
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 2: or I'm dead wrong, I'm close. I'm close. Okay, I'm

1408
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 2: close on the name. But I wonder if you might

1409
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 2: try off and around going to the box. Sorry, Look,

1410
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 2: I got Zoe the cat here and she's clawned the

1411
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 2: crap out of me. So I'm getting cut up here

1412
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 2: worse than Yeah, all right, Hi, Hi, Zoe. Zoey's a

1413
01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 2: nice chat nice, she's great, but she's she injures me

1414
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:02,920
Speaker 2: a lot biting and scratching.

1415
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to check that cat back to the pound.

1416
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 1: How's that sound.

1417
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 2: She would take Booger downtown, Luke. Okay, she would scratch

1418
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 2: his eyeballs out.

1419
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 1: Just because she has a bad attitude doesn't mean she's

1420
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 1: gonna beat the brock lessner of cats. You understand that.

1421
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm on the Tonight Show and I

1422
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 2: got a snake around my forehead. This is great, All right, let's.

1423
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 1: Get back to real life here, dude. The first time

1424
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 1: we picked our cat up off the street because he

1425
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:24,400
Speaker 1: was all sick, and it was he was in bad shape.

1426
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:26,439
Speaker 1: And we took him to the vet and we heard

1427
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:29,439
Speaker 1: him back there just screaming bloody murder when they tried

1428
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 1: to inspect him. And then the doctor came out and

1429
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 1: the doctor go with a vet and he goes, how

1430
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 1: do I say this kindly? Your cat does not respond

1431
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 1: to normal methods of control. I was like, okay, what

1432
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 1: do you want me to do about it? They're like,

1433
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 1: can we sedate your animal? I was like, yes, fine, yeah,

1434
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 1: And all the nurses, all the nurses got fucked up

1435
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 1: back there trying to mess with him. Please, your cat

1436
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 1: wouldn't last around.

1437
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 2: Which cat was this Booger?

1438
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 1: Yeah? It was Booger. You don't fuck around.

1439
01:03:56,720 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 2: Bro's what's his Spanish name, Michel Mocho?

1440
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 1: Got it, got it all right, last but not least

1441
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 1: point number five. And then when we wanted some other

1442
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 1: parts of the show, here BC any standouts. We had

1443
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 1: a lot of going things going on. We had a

1444
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 1: lot of small wins, We had a lot of big wins,

1445
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 1: We had a lot of things in motion. Give me

1446
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 1: somebody who had a standout performance from the weekend.

1447
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:20,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, how about on that Spence Garcia Fox pay per

1448
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 2: view undercard, Luke, are you woke to the towering inferno

1449
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 2: six foot seven junior middleweight Sebastian Fondora. I gotta be honest.

1450
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 2: He looks like a praying mantis. He had been a

1451
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 2: curiosity for US boxing nerds for a while, showing up

1452
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:38,439
Speaker 2: on undercards. He's just twenty two years old. But Luke,

1453
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 2: he's putting together a fun stretch of fights here. He

1454
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:44,440
Speaker 2: had a step up fight against Nathaniel Gallimore last year

1455
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 2: and he knocked that dude out. And that guy's a

1456
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:49,440
Speaker 2: tough sort of journeyman in this division, and he came

1457
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 2: in here against this amed something guy. Shout out to

1458
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:57,320
Speaker 2: that guy, But viv I'm met habib I met yeah,

1459
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 2: and he sent him to hell Luke, and he looks

1460
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 2: really fluid. Now here's the deal. When you get a

1461
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 2: freak of nature, a guy six seven at one hundred

1462
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 2: and fifty four pounds, you're really waiting for him to

1463
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 2: get folded up into a suitcase. I mean you really are.

1464
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 2: As a fan, you're like, okay. But the fluidness of

1465
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 2: his combinations and the ability Luke just to do what

1466
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 2: he's doing in that picture, to stand ridiculously far away

1467
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 2: from his opponent and land stiff jabs and uppercuts. If

1468
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 2: he did not have legitimate power, as we're finding out,

1469
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 2: he would have got solved a long time ago. He's

1470
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 2: got one draw, no defeats on his record, but he

1471
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:34,919
Speaker 2: is now creeping into sort of quasi you know, top

1472
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 2: fifteen contention area where he's gonna have to step up

1473
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:40,320
Speaker 2: big next fight. But they asked him afterwards, and he

1474
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 2: wants all the big names. I'm not gonna count this

1475
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:45,920
Speaker 2: dude out until I finally see him end up in

1476
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 2: a samsonite and put through the X ray machine. Because

1477
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 2: he's fun and he can throw, and i mean, look,

1478
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:54,120
Speaker 2: I've always been a fan of these sort of I

1479
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 2: mean diego corrals. Remember when he was at featherweight? Good god,

1480
01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 2: I mean I've ot you know, Paul Williams was at

1481
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:01,040
Speaker 2: welter wait for a while, six foot one or whatever.

1482
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 2: I always like the freaks of nature, but this is

1483
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 2: an all new reality of it. A six seven junior

1484
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:09,160
Speaker 2: welter middleweight. But it just turns out he can punch Luke.

1485
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 2: I don't know his punch resistance. Let's see somebody get

1486
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 2: it inside on that. But for now, it's certainly a

1487
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 2: fun ride.

1488
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:18,440
Speaker 1: All right. From my standout performance, that was a great one. Fundora,

1489
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:21,680
Speaker 1: it looks interesting. I'm gonna go with Iliatoporia, who fought

1490
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 1: Damon Jackson on the UFC card. Just hit him with

1491
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 1: an unbelievable rib roaster actually I say liver roaster left hand,

1492
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 1: and then finished him off with the right hand over

1493
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:34,680
Speaker 1: the top. Twenty three years old black belt. He's a

1494
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 1: Spanish Georgian. I'm not sure exactly what his entire origin

1495
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 1: story is. Trains out of MMA Masters. He is that young,

1496
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:45,320
Speaker 1: he is already this good. He throws a ton of heat,

1497
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:48,920
Speaker 1: aggressive and with a hot high level camp. MMA Masters.

1498
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 1: Doesn't get a lot of attention as a high level camp.

1499
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 1: But they absolutely are one. A lot of good fighters

1500
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 1: come from there. And he is already showing to be

1501
01:06:56,680 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 1: you know, he reminds me of BC early career, early WEC.

1502
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:05,920
Speaker 1: You know UFC run dustin Parier, just absolutely coming forward,

1503
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 1: throwing hammers. Good technique, not totally formed yet, but you know,

1504
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 1: pretty good, great on the ground, unafraid. He is very interesting.

1505
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:16,520
Speaker 1: He's undefeated nine to zero in the and this is

1506
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 1: is what second fight in UFC. Uh just an absolute

1507
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:24,680
Speaker 1: finishing machine. All of his wins, let's see one, two, three, four, Yeah,

1508
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:26,920
Speaker 1: all of his wins come by way of stoppage except

1509
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 1: for one when he beat use of Zilal. That was it.

1510
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 1: He nearly submitted him. This guy is a hammer. Being

1511
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:33,520
Speaker 1: on the lookout for him.

1512
01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:35,160
Speaker 3: Uh.

1513
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:38,000
Speaker 2: The way that that his opponent fell from from that

1514
01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 2: right hand, look, it almost looked unnatural. It almost looked

1515
01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:43,600
Speaker 2: like like, what the hell's inside that glove? So that

1516
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:45,960
Speaker 2: that that's power that jumps off the screen. So I'm

1517
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 2: certainly interested in following him. And now MMA Masters, they

1518
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:51,400
Speaker 2: they found Amanda Nunas right, she used to sleep in

1519
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:51,960
Speaker 2: that game.

1520
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:54,920
Speaker 1: Gym correct, correct, they did, And you know, I think

1521
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:57,480
Speaker 1: Kobe Coveton's down there. I'm not sure about that, but

1522
01:07:58,240 --> 01:07:59,919
Speaker 1: Ricardo Lamis was there for a long time and they've

1523
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 1: a lot of good guys and ladies come out of there,

1524
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 1: so high level jam and this guy is just the

1525
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 1: truth completely. All right. Those are our top five top

1526
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:11,360
Speaker 1: six comments are a topics. Really, BC time now for

1527
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 1: when the dogs get to ask us a question. It

1528
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:22,519
Speaker 1: is time for dms from doncs ye haul, yeah, all right,

1529
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:26,559
Speaker 1: as my nose closes, let's go to angry Sutty BC.

1530
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 1: Why do boxers have their fathers slash family members in

1531
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 1: their corner so much more often than MMA fighters?

1532
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:38,760
Speaker 2: Great question, Great question, maybe because the sport of MMA

1533
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 2: kind of just started still in our modern era here,

1534
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:44,240
Speaker 2: and boxing has been around forever, and it's such a

1535
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 2: national cultural sport, especially in a lot of you know,

1536
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 2: a lot of these backgrounds where you do find this

1537
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:55,000
Speaker 2: in Mexico, Puerto Rico. It's just such a handed down

1538
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:57,680
Speaker 2: art craft, you know, I mean in a lot of

1539
01:08:57,720 --> 01:08:59,640
Speaker 2: times it's weird though, you know. And I went through

1540
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 2: this last week doing the NBC Sports Fights and doing

1541
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 2: the fighter meetings before him, which is always my favorite time, Luke,

1542
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:08,600
Speaker 2: because you get to sit down, no cameras with the

1543
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:10,680
Speaker 2: fighter and his coach and whatever, and just sort of,

1544
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:13,640
Speaker 2: you know, try to find some interesting tidbits about them

1545
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:15,720
Speaker 2: for the broadcast. But a lot of the times the

1546
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:17,840
Speaker 2: guys that come in, you know, they're these Mexican kids

1547
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 2: and their dads the trainer, and you've seen it to

1548
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:23,439
Speaker 2: so many great effects in boxing, that relationship work, and

1549
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:25,880
Speaker 2: you've also seen it be disastrous. And I always find

1550
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:30,120
Speaker 2: it interesting, Luke, how some dads are completely like, no,

1551
01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:32,200
Speaker 2: he's got to go out there and the fight's not

1552
01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 2: over till my kid's killed. And other dads are like,

1553
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 2: you know, let's let's pull them the second that they

1554
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 2: get touched. It's that whole dynamic dynamic is always interesting.

1555
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:43,160
Speaker 2: I think that the dads are more likely from some

1556
01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:46,040
Speaker 2: of the more boxing traditional backgrounds and nations to just

1557
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:48,760
Speaker 2: let their let their son get their ass kicked. But uh,

1558
01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:51,320
Speaker 2: I don't know why we don't see that in MMA.

1559
01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 2: In fact, Luke, off the top of my head, can

1560
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:56,240
Speaker 2: I even name one well known relationship in the father's

1561
01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:56,760
Speaker 2: son realm?

1562
01:09:56,960 --> 01:10:05,519
Speaker 1: The McKees are one means or another. Yeah, Okay, there

1563
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 1: are some other ones as well. It's because you're right,

1564
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 1: it's because it doesn't have the same kind of tradition

1565
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:12,080
Speaker 1: that boxing does by virtue of partly it's a cultural thing,

1566
01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 1: but also it's just young. It's why a lot of time,

1567
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not even just family members. Be see.

1568
01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 1: Folks may not realize this, but if you watched MMA

1569
01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:22,400
Speaker 1: back in like the early to mid two thousands, a

1570
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 1: lot of the cornermen were just fighters other teammates, which

1571
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:28,880
Speaker 1: is to say, you didn't even see old dudes, like

1572
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:32,800
Speaker 1: even like the older men forties and fifties in their corner.

1573
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:35,519
Speaker 1: You saw other guys in their twenties and thirties, because

1574
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:38,240
Speaker 1: that's all that there was. There was no first generation.

1575
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:41,040
Speaker 1: Now you've got a few generations or you know, some generations.

1576
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 1: Iould say how many is up for debate. But now

1577
01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:44,640
Speaker 1: you've got guys who fought for a little while and

1578
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 1: have moved into coaching or maybe dads or whatever. You're

1579
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:50,400
Speaker 1: starting to see a little bit that turnover. But it

1580
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:53,040
Speaker 1: was just remember I remember distinctly back in two thousand

1581
01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:56,000
Speaker 1: and six, it was it was someone was cornered by

1582
01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:58,200
Speaker 1: someone else who was the exact same age. That's all

1583
01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:00,960
Speaker 1: there was. So that's the well, let's bring in.

1584
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:04,360
Speaker 2: Let's bring in Jay Aaron real quick. Jay, you you

1585
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 2: once had to run on the The Ultimate Fighter with

1586
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:09,679
Speaker 2: Rye Hall until he hit you with a spinning head kick.

1587
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 2: Did your dad corner you at all during that run? Uh?

1588
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:15,559
Speaker 3: Now, my dad coached all of my basketball and baseball

1589
01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:17,479
Speaker 3: teams under the age of thirteen.

1590
01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:20,720
Speaker 1: Great, can we get rid of Jay? Please? Can we

1591
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:23,960
Speaker 1: move on? Thank you? All right, let's go to I'm

1592
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 1: just gonna Liam O'Brien BC. Of all the fight posters

1593
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:31,960
Speaker 1: at the Wild Car Boxing Gym, which one is your favorite?

1594
01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:32,439
Speaker 1: Great question.

1595
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 2: That's a great question because while I'm in there, I

1596
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:37,519
Speaker 2: do nothing but sit there and stare at all the

1597
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:42,080
Speaker 2: photos and posters. I don't have a favor right now,

1598
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:44,800
Speaker 2: but it's spectacular. The pictures are great. There's so many

1599
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:46,600
Speaker 2: celebrities on the wall. They do have a lot of

1600
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:50,280
Speaker 2: a really fun sort of old school fight posters. I

1601
01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:52,280
Speaker 2: wish I had a better answer for you right now, Luke.

1602
01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 2: I wish I had any answer, but I do. I

1603
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:56,000
Speaker 2: was just there on Thursday and I was staring at

1604
01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:56,320
Speaker 2: them all.

1605
01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:59,320
Speaker 1: Have you been to the Downtown Boxing Club in Manhattan?

1606
01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 3: No?

1607
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 1: No, So they've got all the walls plastered with posters

1608
01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 1: like from all different eras. That's a fun little place

1609
01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:11,320
Speaker 1: to go to and train as well. You know, Eric Kelly,

1610
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:12,760
Speaker 1: the guy that got the pull stick in his eye

1611
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:14,599
Speaker 1: and fucked him up, but he's got he's like there.

1612
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:16,760
Speaker 1: He's like a real shitty person to like people who

1613
01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:19,040
Speaker 1: go train. You know, he trains down there. At least

1614
01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:19,800
Speaker 1: he teaches down.

1615
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:21,800
Speaker 2: There anyway, Eric Kelly, Yeah, I know that guy.

1616
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:28,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right. From at Michael underscore woes, well the paper, let.

1617
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:30,880
Speaker 2: Me answer it. I didn't give that guy an answer.

1618
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:33,720
Speaker 2: Freddie loves Codo. There's some really cool Coda ones. I

1619
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:36,000
Speaker 2: saw a freaking Codo Moseley one, and there's a lot

1620
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:39,200
Speaker 2: of the there's Pachio stuff everywhere, and there's Miguel Coto

1621
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:42,280
Speaker 2: stuff everywhere these days, obviously, along with Freddy. There's one

1622
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:45,960
Speaker 2: picture though of Freddie Roach with really long mullet hair hair.

1623
01:12:46,479 --> 01:12:48,560
Speaker 2: I think he was working Tyson's Corner back then, like

1624
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:50,559
Speaker 2: in right in the tail end of his career. That's

1625
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:52,320
Speaker 2: I would love to have it in my house, Freddy

1626
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:54,240
Speaker 2: with flowing long mullet hair. It's fantastic.

1627
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:58,040
Speaker 1: All right, Back to you, Luke, Michael Woes asks, well,

1628
01:12:58,080 --> 01:12:59,760
Speaker 1: the pay per view model that's being used for the

1629
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:03,600
Speaker 1: Floor Versus Paul exhibition be used in the future of

1630
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:05,800
Speaker 1: combat sports. It's an interesting gamble, isn't it.

1631
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:09,840
Speaker 2: B See, It really is, because let's be really honest.

1632
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:12,400
Speaker 2: I mean, you can argue, Luke, when we did see

1633
01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:14,599
Speaker 2: a may Pack or a may Mac, are those two

1634
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:18,000
Speaker 2: fights so big that we would all pay one hundred?

1635
01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:20,200
Speaker 2: Good God, we would have paid two hundred maybe, But

1636
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:22,559
Speaker 2: a lot of these boxing pay per views are our

1637
01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:25,200
Speaker 2: borderline under the whole idea of should they even be

1638
01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 2: a pay per view? And certainly, Luke, I mean, god,

1639
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:30,679
Speaker 2: I hate the idea of people having to pay seventy

1640
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:34,200
Speaker 2: five bucks in HD. It's like, yeah, there's something to

1641
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:36,120
Speaker 2: be said here, Luke. I think you could see more

1642
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:38,400
Speaker 2: fights that are tough to make because they're in that

1643
01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:41,000
Speaker 2: middle ground between regular TV or pay per view where

1644
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:43,960
Speaker 2: the cable provider can't doesn't have the money to pay

1645
01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:45,960
Speaker 2: for it, but it would die on the vine on

1646
01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:48,640
Speaker 2: pay per view. How about putting it out there for

1647
01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:50,920
Speaker 2: an introductory rate of fifteen bucks and seeing if you

1648
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:53,559
Speaker 2: can get a million people to put down fifteen bucks

1649
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:56,000
Speaker 2: on that, you know, and then you can announce Oh

1650
01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 2: my God, we've sold a million. I mean, here's the deal.

1651
01:13:58,160 --> 01:14:01,479
Speaker 2: The more you announced that some thing is becoming popular

1652
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:04,080
Speaker 2: and must see, the more other people are gonna go, oh,

1653
01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:06,080
Speaker 2: I should check into what that's gonna be all about.

1654
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:08,719
Speaker 2: So the most brilliant part of it, Luke, in my eyes,

1655
01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:11,600
Speaker 2: is that the price automatically goes up the second they

1656
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:14,680
Speaker 2: hit that one million threshold, because that becomes an announcement

1657
01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:17,800
Speaker 2: that becomes like an event, like two weeks out, two

1658
01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:19,960
Speaker 2: weeks in and we've already hit it. Guys, So if

1659
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:22,120
Speaker 2: you want to see this fight, you better pay now

1660
01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:24,720
Speaker 2: because it's only gonna get more expensive. Like, yeah, that's

1661
01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:28,080
Speaker 2: that is so brilliant to get more money. But it's

1662
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:32,280
Speaker 2: also brilliant, Luke, to potentially create a market on pay

1663
01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:34,560
Speaker 2: per view that works for the fights that have no

1664
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:37,400
Speaker 2: business being sixty to one hundred bucks.

1665
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:41,080
Speaker 1: Yes, listen, if you can find a clever way to

1666
01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:44,639
Speaker 1: still make money, maybe as much, maybe more, and find

1667
01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:46,800
Speaker 1: a way to lower the price point for pay per views,

1668
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 1: you're not only doing a great service to the consumer,

1669
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:52,200
Speaker 1: but yeah, you could revolutionize the way the way pricing

1670
01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:55,080
Speaker 1: structure works. Again, will it work? Be seen? I have

1671
01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:57,560
Speaker 1: no idea, but do. I applaud people trying to do

1672
01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:00,400
Speaker 1: something a little bit different. Absolutely, let's see what works.

1673
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:02,120
Speaker 1: Let's see if there's a cheaper and better way to

1674
01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:04,559
Speaker 1: do this and everyone can still win. That's what I'm

1675
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 1: in favor of, all right from Ilia seven four five.

1676
01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:11,719
Speaker 1: Can Luke and b C recreate the dirty dancing pos

1677
01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:15,160
Speaker 1: moment in the documentary sequel? Is that the one where

1678
01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:16,960
Speaker 1: like no one puts baby in the corner and it's

1679
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:17,760
Speaker 1: this number.

1680
01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:20,400
Speaker 2: That's no, that's the where she gets Yeah, she gets

1681
01:15:20,439 --> 01:15:23,160
Speaker 2: the running start and then Swayze lifts her up. I've

1682
01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:25,200
Speaker 2: seen there's a lot of fail videos, by the way,

1683
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:26,560
Speaker 2: I should bring them in to have you seen this

1684
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:29,640
Speaker 2: shit of of drunken males trying that, Luke, you'd have

1685
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:31,000
Speaker 2: to be the bottom on that though.

1686
01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:33,240
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I'd have to be the power bottom.

1687
01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:36,719
Speaker 2: I'm at a career high in wait at the moment

1688
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:38,920
Speaker 2: of two thirty two, Luke, could you lift me?

1689
01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:41,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, you'd be okay if I did. If I did

1690
01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:43,439
Speaker 1: like A, If I did like a, if you're running

1691
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:45,920
Speaker 1: start and I could you know it wasn't a strict press.

1692
01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:48,679
Speaker 1: I could do it. Your boys out here lifting weights

1693
01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:51,240
Speaker 1: almost every day, so I'm trying to trying to undo

1694
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:52,480
Speaker 1: the damage at the quarantine.

1695
01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 2: The only thing for both of us, Luke, is, you know,

1696
01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:57,599
Speaker 2: people want so badly for us to get to one

1697
01:15:57,680 --> 01:15:59,120
Speaker 2: hundred K because they think you and I are just

1698
01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:01,479
Speaker 2: gonna like stand out in the middle of like you know,

1699
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:03,320
Speaker 2: the Okay Corral and pulled down our pants and go

1700
01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:06,680
Speaker 2: tip to tip, which is just not happening. But I

1701
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 2: kind of be tea bagging you if we did this,

1702
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:10,200
Speaker 2: and I'm not into that.

1703
01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:13,840
Speaker 1: You know, well, I'll wear a mask, you know me.

1704
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:18,960
Speaker 1: I love wearing masks all right. From are a rock,

1705
01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:25,240
Speaker 1: Paul Junior, French toast, waffles or pancakes? What do you think?

1706
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:29,360
Speaker 2: It's a very fair question. I love all three. Breakfast

1707
01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:32,719
Speaker 2: is the the best meal and all of food, Luke.

1708
01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:36,559
Speaker 2: And nothing is better than sloppy breakfast when you're traveling,

1709
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:41,760
Speaker 2: hungover or both. So Luke, pancakes, pancakes are the option. Look,

1710
01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:44,679
Speaker 2: I mean I love the Well here's the thing, though, Luke,

1711
01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:47,879
Speaker 2: gourmete We've had this discussion before. Gourmet chicken and waffles.

1712
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:50,280
Speaker 2: This whole revolution is just I mean, it is just

1713
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:53,880
Speaker 2: incredible how good, uh fried chicken and waffles are with

1714
01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:57,600
Speaker 2: just soaked in syrup. But you know what, without the

1715
01:16:57,680 --> 01:16:59,800
Speaker 2: element of chicken, I gotta go pancakes. I'm I'm a

1716
01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:02,439
Speaker 2: big stick pancake guy, Luke. Okay, give me some chocolate

1717
01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 2: chips and banana inside of them. I mean, come on,

1718
01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:05,880
Speaker 2: you know, if we're gonna go for it, let's go

1719
01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:06,479
Speaker 2: for it, Luke.

1720
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 1: You know what. I have long been a pancake guy myself. BC.

1721
01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:11,880
Speaker 1: I the French dost I only like one. It's made

1722
01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:14,800
Speaker 1: in certain ways, but it's very, very good waffles. I

1723
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:17,680
Speaker 1: have certainly had much more appreciation for now than I

1724
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 1: ever did. But I've just always been loyal to pancakes. Yes,

1725
01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:23,719
Speaker 1: it's yes, it's simple. It's a it's a flat, little

1726
01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:26,519
Speaker 1: thin cake and you can stack a bunch of them there.

1727
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:28,920
Speaker 1: But it's it's simplicity as it's beauty.

1728
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:29,200
Speaker 2: BC.

1729
01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:31,360
Speaker 1: You can put stuff on it, you could put stuff

1730
01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:34,599
Speaker 1: in it. It can be sweet, it can be cloyingly sweet,

1731
01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:36,519
Speaker 1: depending on your perspective. I don't know.

1732
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:39,760
Speaker 2: Hard to go along questions all those adjectives you could

1733
01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:40,880
Speaker 2: say about a woman too, Luke.

1734
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:43,519
Speaker 1: I think there's a connection here, could could be could

1735
01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:45,880
Speaker 1: be true. You can stack them high, all right? With

1736
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:46,439
Speaker 1: that bc.

1737
01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:49,080
Speaker 2: I was gonna ask. I was gonna follow up, Luke

1738
01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 2: and say, uh, do you get bacon or do you

1739
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:53,120
Speaker 2: get sausage with it? I mean both would be great, but.

1740
01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:57,760
Speaker 1: What do you I actually do not eat pork at all. Uh.

1741
01:17:58,080 --> 01:18:00,679
Speaker 1: And it's not because like I'm like am not Islamic

1742
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:03,240
Speaker 1: or anything or one of the Abrahamer religions. It's just

1743
01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:07,960
Speaker 1: that I'm trying to eat less meat. And pigs are

1744
01:18:08,360 --> 01:18:12,640
Speaker 1: smarter than dogs and have sentient, emotionally complex lives, and

1745
01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:14,040
Speaker 1: I just don't believe in eating them.

1746
01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:17,519
Speaker 2: So is this extending to hot dogs, Luke, because I

1747
01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:18,799
Speaker 2: don't know if we could be friends anymore.

1748
01:18:19,439 --> 01:18:21,439
Speaker 1: It does extend to hot dogs, and I'd make an

1749
01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:23,240
Speaker 1: ex I mean, you know, cows have these kinds of

1750
01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:24,760
Speaker 1: lives too, but I'm a little bit more willing to

1751
01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:27,120
Speaker 1: throw the baseball glove on the truck in the words

1752
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:29,000
Speaker 1: of Dennis Leary. But maybe I can have like a

1753
01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:29,800
Speaker 1: beef one, you know.

1754
01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:32,759
Speaker 2: Great reference. Thank you. I thought you were joining Jay's

1755
01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:35,800
Speaker 2: tribe by saying no to bacon and sausage. You know what,

1756
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 2: the only problem is, I'm more of a sausage guy

1757
01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:40,400
Speaker 2: than bacon at like a diner if I'm getting pancakes

1758
01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:43,320
Speaker 2: and sloppy, but I want the thin cut sausage. You

1759
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:45,360
Speaker 2: know that, those those certain diners where you order the

1760
01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:47,200
Speaker 2: sausage and they give you like the they give you

1761
01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:49,720
Speaker 2: Rocko Safreddi basically, and you're like, I don't, I can't

1762
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:51,160
Speaker 2: do that. I don't want this. Do you like the

1763
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:55,519
Speaker 2: sausage patty, the patt Yeah, I'll think the patty. But

1764
01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:57,320
Speaker 2: you know that thick thing and there's like a tail

1765
01:18:57,400 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 2: on it and it's got skin, and it's just like, no,

1766
01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:00,320
Speaker 2: I don't, I'm not.

1767
01:19:00,479 --> 01:19:02,760
Speaker 1: I'm not. That's like though, that's like the monster dump

1768
01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:05,880
Speaker 1: I took before the show, that thing. Admit all those descriptions.

1769
01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:07,920
Speaker 2: I don't do that now.

1770
01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:12,360
Speaker 1: All right, Well, with that in mind, let's move on

1771
01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:15,240
Speaker 1: to speaking of FECs BC. It's time for have you

1772
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:16,120
Speaker 1: seen this ship? Is it not?

1773
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:21,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's time for BC's Feces. It is, Yes, the

1774
01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:22,600
Speaker 2: best segment.

1775
01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:26,000
Speaker 1: In all of US stores. I look forward to this

1776
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:28,640
Speaker 1: segment in ways I didn't used to. I'm ready for

1777
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:29,559
Speaker 1: this one today. ABC.

1778
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:31,920
Speaker 2: All right, we scholar the globe. You know what the

1779
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:34,320
Speaker 2: hell we do here? Let's do it. UFC Fight Night

1780
01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:36,600
Speaker 2: in Vegas Luke, we had some fun on the undercard,

1781
01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:41,280
Speaker 2: fat spinny shit gone wrong. Check out Jake Collier's attempt

1782
01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:44,559
Speaker 2: at a spinning back elbow against bloated John Valante.

1783
01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:48,760
Speaker 1: This is got only marginally better than how we would fight.

1784
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, yeah, for sure. I mean, let's not mistake.

1785
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:53,800
Speaker 2: You know, we're we're allowed to make fun of people

1786
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:55,800
Speaker 2: because we are in our basements. Luke. Okay, but these

1787
01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:58,040
Speaker 2: guys actually sign up for I didn't know, by the way,

1788
01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:01,400
Speaker 2: that Colia used to fight at middleweight and was what happened.

1789
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:05,040
Speaker 1: Duke, quarantine bro quarantine hurt him up?

1790
01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:08,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, tough loss, our tough break in life there. Okay,

1791
01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:11,600
Speaker 2: let's move on here. Did you see this ko with

1792
01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:15,120
Speaker 2: the knee from Gabriel Benitez and the damage that it

1793
01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:17,080
Speaker 2: did to Justin Jans's soul?

1794
01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 1: Good lord, Luke, dude, And you know the referee is

1795
01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:23,120
Speaker 1: holding him like a child who fell off their tricycle

1796
01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:25,040
Speaker 1: and skinned their knee, like we're all loving and shit,

1797
01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:27,400
Speaker 1: you know, man, he even he could be like look

1798
01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:30,920
Speaker 1: at him holding him. They're like, oh, you know, Jesus, dude,

1799
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:34,680
Speaker 1: that must have been brutal to deal with.

1800
01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:37,439
Speaker 2: As brutal is that was Luke, we had a worse

1801
01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:40,240
Speaker 2: soul taking and it took twenty two seconds thirty seven

1802
01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:43,920
Speaker 2: year old Matt Wyman. Joseph Gordon Levin picked him up

1803
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:46,400
Speaker 2: and took him to the third Stone from the Sun. Luke,

1804
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:49,000
Speaker 2: this is what is going on here? Yike.

1805
01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:57,559
Speaker 1: That's the meanest thing a Mormon has ever done. Oh God, wow, dude,

1806
01:20:57,600 --> 01:20:59,240
Speaker 1: what does Matt Wyman do with the man?

1807
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:03,040
Speaker 2: Yeah? Let the boys be boys. I mean even Rosenama

1808
01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:05,200
Speaker 2: Unis is like tuck your chin, bitch like this, what

1809
01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:06,040
Speaker 2: is happening here?

1810
01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:09,000
Speaker 1: Right? I love Matt. He had a great run in

1811
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:11,840
Speaker 1: the UFC, but he came back after five years and

1812
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:15,080
Speaker 1: all the fights have just been even the when he survived,

1813
01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:17,759
Speaker 1: they've just been ugly.

1814
01:21:18,439 --> 01:21:21,280
Speaker 2: Dude, this was twenty two seconds though. This is just bad.

1815
01:21:21,439 --> 01:21:23,160
Speaker 2: You know, this wasn't like Matt. He was picking up

1816
01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:26,400
Speaker 2: trig and running them across as we hear Bob O'Reilly

1817
01:21:26,439 --> 01:21:29,519
Speaker 2: playing in the background. You know this was yeah? All right, Hey,

1818
01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:32,880
Speaker 2: let's go to the aforementioned Ring City, USA NBC Sports

1819
01:21:32,960 --> 01:21:35,040
Speaker 2: main event. Did you see Brandon Adams coming out as

1820
01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:36,840
Speaker 2: Bowser from Mario Kart?

1821
01:21:36,920 --> 01:21:39,320
Speaker 1: Luke, God, bless this man. I can barely get through

1822
01:21:39,360 --> 01:21:41,720
Speaker 1: the ring. But you know what, I appreciate that he's

1823
01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:43,280
Speaker 1: the final boss on this love it.

1824
01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:46,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, well he you know, if you're gonna come out

1825
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:48,320
Speaker 2: looking like that, you better get a knockout win, which

1826
01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:50,400
Speaker 2: he did, so shout out to him. But he couldn't

1827
01:21:50,439 --> 01:21:52,840
Speaker 2: get the damn shell off. He needed referee Jack Reese

1828
01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:55,280
Speaker 2: to help him. It was a near wardrobe malfunction, Luke,

1829
01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:58,439
Speaker 2: So that almost blew the the gimmick. But shout out

1830
01:21:58,479 --> 01:22:01,559
Speaker 2: to Brandon Adams just the same. Let's roll on here, Luke.

1831
01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:05,160
Speaker 2: From Miami, we had a boxing card. Uniesky. Gonzalez's opponent,

1832
01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:08,160
Speaker 2: the guy in the white shorts, came in fourteen pounds

1833
01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 2: overweight for their light heavyweight bout. Luke, fourteen pounds fourteen.

1834
01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:17,120
Speaker 1: He didn't come in fourteen pounds heavy BC. He came

1835
01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:21,040
Speaker 1: in at heavyweight. Yeah, let me just saying he did,

1836
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:24,400
Speaker 1: like he came in in heavyweight for a fight three

1837
01:22:24,439 --> 01:22:25,439
Speaker 1: weight classes below.

1838
01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:29,240
Speaker 2: The guy's name is Alex Thuran, and yes he got

1839
01:22:29,320 --> 01:22:32,400
Speaker 2: sent to hell by Yuniesky. Shout out there in Miami.

1840
01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:35,680
Speaker 2: Oh wow, okay, hey, really weird shit went down, Luke

1841
01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:38,360
Speaker 2: at the Fame MMA eight card I don't know this

1842
01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:41,799
Speaker 2: lady's name, but I love it. What is happening here, Luke.

1843
01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:47,400
Speaker 1: Let me guess some Slavic country this is taking place in.

1844
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I think we need to be there.

1845
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:53,400
Speaker 2: I mean, what is happening here. There's live women, there's

1846
01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:55,639
Speaker 2: there's blown up women, there's roses.

1847
01:22:56,680 --> 01:22:59,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Emma is it's weird. It's a weird

1848
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:01,080
Speaker 1: sport with weird people.

1849
01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 2: All right, best head kicks of the week time, Luke.

1850
01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:07,679
Speaker 2: Let's go to Cage Fury FC. Check out Paris artists.

1851
01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:16,000
Speaker 2: Oh god, forget Paris. Wow, yikes, woah, my god. Please,

1852
01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:18,240
Speaker 2: they're sending the surgeon. You see that guy that was

1853
01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:20,720
Speaker 2: a ringside doctor. That was a damn surgeon. He came

1854
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:23,200
Speaker 2: in in scrubs right there.

1855
01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:26,840
Speaker 1: Hold that, yep.

1856
01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:29,160
Speaker 2: All right, Let's go over to one Championship. There's a

1857
01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:34,240
Speaker 2: fellow named Bulkang masson Yan and he's little, but this

1858
01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:36,400
Speaker 2: pocket rocket can get you out of there.

1859
01:23:36,479 --> 01:23:36,679
Speaker 1: Luke.

1860
01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:37,240
Speaker 2: Watch this.

1861
01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:43,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, wow from South Africa.

1862
01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:45,439
Speaker 2: I think he might be in the remake of the

1863
01:23:45,479 --> 01:23:50,519
Speaker 2: Wizard of oz Luk but this is great. Wow. Yeah, Jesus,

1864
01:23:51,640 --> 01:23:54,840
Speaker 2: Let's go over to a K one w GP kickboxing

1865
01:23:54,920 --> 01:23:59,120
Speaker 2: and our fella and pooh rukiya with a switch kickhead

1866
01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:03,960
Speaker 2: kickko that defies it defies description.

1867
01:24:03,720 --> 01:24:07,479
Speaker 1: Brother jumping switch kick no less. Oh and did he

1868
01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:09,400
Speaker 1: testify in church? Blah blah.

1869
01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:14,720
Speaker 2: I mean that's some wacky Buckley shit right there. Right,

1870
01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:19,920
Speaker 2: that's great? Wow? All right, yeah, all right, let's head

1871
01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:22,240
Speaker 2: back to glory kickboxing here. You know what, Luke, for

1872
01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:25,160
Speaker 2: all the differences between us men and women really aren't

1873
01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:27,040
Speaker 2: all that different at the end. Here's a kick to

1874
01:24:27,080 --> 01:24:29,840
Speaker 2: the taco, Luke, and it's it's stings, bro, It's still

1875
01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:31,519
Speaker 2: it's still stings. I'll tell you that one.

1876
01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:34,040
Speaker 1: Did you call it a taco? Really? Is that what

1877
01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:34,800
Speaker 1: we're calling it now?

1878
01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:37,640
Speaker 2: I mean, well it's not Tuesday, but yeah, I mean

1879
01:24:37,640 --> 01:24:39,719
Speaker 2: it's trying to be safe, Luke, trying to be safer. Okay,

1880
01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:43,040
Speaker 2: that is wow? Yeah, okay.

1881
01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:45,040
Speaker 1: Do you know what do you know what I forget

1882
01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:46,479
Speaker 1: what the word is in Spanish? You know what they

1883
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:48,320
Speaker 1: call it here? Because you know, we have to clean

1884
01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:49,880
Speaker 1: my daughter when you know she takes it dump in

1885
01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:57,479
Speaker 1: her pants, they you know they call it. Yeah, I know,

1886
01:24:57,520 --> 01:24:58,040
Speaker 1: it's gross.

1887
01:24:59,479 --> 01:25:02,519
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, okay, all right, Luke, let's go over

1888
01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:06,519
Speaker 2: to the subway tracks. This is death defying here. This

1889
01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:08,960
Speaker 2: is impressive. Is this an ollie Wall?

1890
01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:12,439
Speaker 1: Luke? Why wasn't the train there to hit him?

1891
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:16,439
Speaker 2: It takes a lot of balls to pull that off.

1892
01:25:16,479 --> 01:25:17,760
Speaker 2: I got respect for this.

1893
01:25:18,360 --> 01:25:19,960
Speaker 1: This just goes to show you how long you have

1894
01:25:20,040 --> 01:25:21,760
Speaker 1: to wait for the train in New York City. That

1895
01:25:21,880 --> 01:25:23,959
Speaker 1: guy is You know what, I tell you what Antifa

1896
01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:26,280
Speaker 1: caing skateboard I'll give I'll give Antifa that.

1897
01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:30,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he'll be occupying Wall Street after this trick.

1898
01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:33,840
Speaker 2: It's great, Luke. All right, let's go on. Hey, Luke,

1899
01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:36,200
Speaker 2: you ever hear the term firecrotch? We got a new

1900
01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:40,760
Speaker 2: meaning thanks to this gentleman. Check this out. So it's

1901
01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:42,719
Speaker 2: like a trick, right, It's like a party trick.

1902
01:25:43,680 --> 01:25:45,519
Speaker 1: So he shoots it through his This is how he

1903
01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:46,559
Speaker 1: trims his pubes.

1904
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:50,800
Speaker 2: The problem is, Luke, you can get a little on

1905
01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:52,760
Speaker 2: you and then it gets hard to get that that

1906
01:25:52,880 --> 01:25:53,720
Speaker 2: ship off. Luke.

1907
01:25:56,080 --> 01:25:58,280
Speaker 1: You know, I doubt he was working with Lexi and

1908
01:25:58,320 --> 01:25:59,440
Speaker 1: paler situations.

1909
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:04,840
Speaker 2: Oh Jesus, well he looks he looks Polynesian, but he

1910
01:26:04,920 --> 01:26:07,599
Speaker 2: now has the Irish curse just the same. All right, hey,

1911
01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:09,720
Speaker 2: Street Fight of the Week time Luke, let's go down

1912
01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:12,920
Speaker 2: to Sydney, Australia, down under. Look at this little road

1913
01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:13,800
Speaker 2: rage incident here.

1914
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:14,320
Speaker 1: This is fun.

1915
01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:18,080
Speaker 2: Watch this Channel nine News picking it up. Shout out

1916
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:21,759
Speaker 2: to all our Aussie fans down there in Oz.

1917
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:23,360
Speaker 1: I'm waiting.

1918
01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:27,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll put a normal situation now cutting over here.

1919
01:26:28,720 --> 01:26:30,479
Speaker 2: What I love about it, Luke, is you'll find out

1920
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:32,240
Speaker 2: is this goes from zero to sixty. I mean this

1921
01:26:32,360 --> 01:26:35,320
Speaker 2: goes from I cut you off to it's on like

1922
01:26:35,479 --> 01:26:38,160
Speaker 2: donkey Kong. Okay, it's on. Put the parking brake on.

1923
01:26:38,240 --> 01:26:39,880
Speaker 2: We're gonna throw. We're gonna throw here, Luke.

1924
01:26:40,439 --> 01:26:41,839
Speaker 1: All right, he gets out of the vehicle.

1925
01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:44,360
Speaker 2: Get out of your Honda Civic.

1926
01:26:44,360 --> 01:26:44,519
Speaker 1: There.

1927
01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:46,200
Speaker 2: Oh, look at this, Luke, we got it. Look at it.

1928
01:26:46,240 --> 01:26:46,519
Speaker 3: Look at this.

1929
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:47,559
Speaker 2: They're in traffic.

1930
01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:50,800
Speaker 1: Is this how Aussi's do democracy?

1931
01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:55,120
Speaker 2: Hey, their COVID numbers are spectacular right now.

1932
01:26:55,160 --> 01:26:57,000
Speaker 1: I will say, do they have less than fifty in

1933
01:26:57,080 --> 01:26:57,759
Speaker 1: the whole country?

1934
01:26:58,920 --> 01:27:02,360
Speaker 2: I'll never forget, Luke. We cut senior year in high school.

1935
01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:04,840
Speaker 2: We cut class and we drove to the Basketball Hall

1936
01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:06,400
Speaker 2: of Fame, and we had forties in the car and

1937
01:27:06,479 --> 01:27:09,200
Speaker 2: we were listening to Dennis Larry's No Cure for Cancer,

1938
01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:11,920
Speaker 2: followed by led Zeppelin one on CD. And as we're

1939
01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:15,120
Speaker 2: driving on nine to ninety one in mass huge fight,

1940
01:27:15,320 --> 01:27:18,280
Speaker 2: two guys pull over just like this, start brawling. Guy's

1941
01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:20,880
Speaker 2: got a guy in a guillotine. It was when you're

1942
01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:23,519
Speaker 2: like seventeen. It's fantastic, Luca, right, I have a friend

1943
01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:25,160
Speaker 2: who's who's very little.

1944
01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:27,679
Speaker 1: He's like five to three. He weighs like one twenty.

1945
01:27:28,040 --> 01:27:30,080
Speaker 1: He used to flip off every one on traffic, and

1946
01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:32,120
Speaker 1: then one day were this was what we were in Georgia,

1947
01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:35,240
Speaker 1: and he flipped off this giant redneck in his huge car.

1948
01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:38,080
Speaker 1: And then the redneck dude clearly wanted to fight, like

1949
01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:40,560
Speaker 1: you know, it was honking the horn and shit, and

1950
01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:43,800
Speaker 1: uh so, my friend an absolute I mean, you know

1951
01:27:43,880 --> 01:27:45,439
Speaker 1: you should have been honking the horn and he definite

1952
01:27:45,479 --> 01:27:47,960
Speaker 1: shouldn't fight him. But like, you know, what are you

1953
01:27:47,960 --> 01:27:49,800
Speaker 1: supposed to do at that pointing for him? Well, here

1954
01:27:49,920 --> 01:27:52,519
Speaker 1: was his genius idea. He just drove to the police station.

1955
01:27:55,240 --> 01:27:57,479
Speaker 1: He thought that would be with that plenty of cover.

1956
01:27:58,479 --> 01:28:00,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do support that. All right, Hey, let's head

1957
01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:02,760
Speaker 2: over to the UK, Luke. They get a little crazy there.

1958
01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:05,400
Speaker 2: They like street fights, Okay, we got another you know,

1959
01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:09,599
Speaker 2: fender bender. Some guys talking trash. See, you gotta be careful, Luke.

1960
01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:12,720
Speaker 2: You never know who's hiding. Who's hiding a little bit

1961
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:14,479
Speaker 2: of like a K one background or some.

1962
01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:20,479
Speaker 1: Shoot the box right hand is gonna two piece.

1963
01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:22,760
Speaker 2: A shirtless guy. Shirtless guys got If you got a

1964
01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:24,400
Speaker 2: ponytail and no shirt and you want to fight in

1965
01:28:24,400 --> 01:28:26,160
Speaker 2: the street, you're gonna win. That's sort of the the

1966
01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:27,080
Speaker 2: unwritten rules.

1967
01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:29,360
Speaker 1: Oh but he's got him in the street top rich

1968
01:28:29,400 --> 01:28:32,040
Speaker 1: Cronkleton missus with the takedown b.

1969
01:28:35,240 --> 01:28:36,880
Speaker 2: I don't know if you can hear the audio there, Luke,

1970
01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:39,599
Speaker 2: but he hit hard that fight.

1971
01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:41,960
Speaker 1: Jay does a bad job with the producer.

1972
01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:44,840
Speaker 2: Thank you for coming. All right, hey, let's head out

1973
01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:46,479
Speaker 2: to the streets again. You know a great way to

1974
01:28:46,520 --> 01:28:48,400
Speaker 2: break up a street fight, Luke, if one of your

1975
01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:51,960
Speaker 2: friends is into it, I'm gonna flying drop kick, Luke,

1976
01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:53,679
Speaker 2: ko one. Check that out.

1977
01:28:54,720 --> 01:28:57,479
Speaker 1: That's great. That's a guy who definitely has your back.

1978
01:28:58,040 --> 01:28:59,600
Speaker 1: Like you can't accuse that friend of not.

1979
01:28:59,720 --> 01:29:03,160
Speaker 2: Doing you know, no, no, no, Like you could have

1980
01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:04,800
Speaker 2: used more friends like that when you were wearing a

1981
01:29:04,840 --> 01:29:07,960
Speaker 2: wife beater on the DC club streets and the.

1982
01:29:08,160 --> 01:29:11,360
Speaker 1: Worst street fight. I was ever in uh in terms

1983
01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:13,559
Speaker 1: of just how big it got and like how out

1984
01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:16,720
Speaker 1: of control one of our friends. There was four of us,

1985
01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:18,759
Speaker 1: but only three of us ended up throwing any hands.

1986
01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:22,360
Speaker 1: The fourth saw what was going down. And I'm not exaggerating.

1987
01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:23,960
Speaker 1: This was an Adams Morgan, So if you're from DC,

1988
01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:26,880
Speaker 1: we'll get this reference. He looked around and was like, man,

1989
01:29:26,960 --> 01:29:29,640
Speaker 1: fuck this and went to the Jumbo Slice and got

1990
01:29:29,680 --> 01:29:32,720
Speaker 1: a giant slice of pizza to then come back when

1991
01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:35,080
Speaker 1: the fight was over and just enjoy his slice of pie.

1992
01:29:35,400 --> 01:29:36,760
Speaker 1: We were all pretty mad at him for that.

1993
01:29:37,680 --> 01:29:41,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a very Jay Aaron move despite his kickboxing

1994
01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:45,479
Speaker 2: background there at Tigers Schulman. Yeah, all right, hey, let's Luke.

1995
01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:48,040
Speaker 2: Let's score one for Corona masks. I know people don't

1996
01:29:48,080 --> 01:29:50,639
Speaker 2: want to wear them. Doctor Luke Fauchi gets upset. Check

1997
01:29:50,720 --> 01:29:54,479
Speaker 2: out this cashier, Luke, he got like he got a

1998
01:29:54,479 --> 01:29:55,840
Speaker 2: little on him there. But if he didn't have the

1999
01:29:55,920 --> 01:29:57,840
Speaker 2: Corona mass you would have been drinking that beer, right?

2000
01:29:58,000 --> 01:30:00,000
Speaker 1: What is that is that a beer? Yeah?

2001
01:30:00,040 --> 01:30:02,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, the guy drops the beer the six pack out

2002
01:30:02,360 --> 01:30:05,160
Speaker 2: and it just it just shoots it right, and it's fine.

2003
01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:07,960
Speaker 1: That's how I'm gonna dude, that's how I'm gonna pee

2004
01:30:08,040 --> 01:30:09,960
Speaker 1: the first time I come to your house. I'm going

2005
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:13,560
Speaker 1: to just indiscriminately mark my territory all over your asylum.

2006
01:30:15,920 --> 01:30:18,840
Speaker 2: So you see how the calmness of that cashier. I

2007
01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:20,720
Speaker 2: feel like he's been in this spot before, Luke.

2008
01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:24,280
Speaker 1: Right, you know, he's like, at least it's not piss

2009
01:30:25,720 --> 01:30:26,360
Speaker 1: all right.

2010
01:30:26,640 --> 01:30:30,120
Speaker 2: Hey, speaking of explosive chugging, check out this weird old Luke,

2011
01:30:30,160 --> 01:30:31,800
Speaker 2: I don't know. See this is where the craft beer

2012
01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:34,320
Speaker 2: revolution goes a little bit too far from me when

2013
01:30:34,360 --> 01:30:36,120
Speaker 2: it's coming out this thick I don't know.

2014
01:30:38,800 --> 01:30:46,960
Speaker 1: That is fucking gross. Yeah, yeah, dude, this was like

2015
01:30:47,120 --> 01:30:48,679
Speaker 1: Jeff Wagenheim in his thirties.

2016
01:30:49,400 --> 01:30:58,080
Speaker 2: Yeah right, Actually, Jeff Wagonheim on Friday night. If you

2017
01:30:58,120 --> 01:30:59,320
Speaker 2: head up there to North Adams.

2018
01:30:59,360 --> 01:31:03,120
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, what is he drinking? Do we

2019
01:31:03,160 --> 01:31:03,960
Speaker 1: even know? What is that?

2020
01:31:04,680 --> 01:31:07,360
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know, but well, well done

2021
01:31:07,400 --> 01:31:09,920
Speaker 2: to that guy. All right, hey, let's keep it going, Luke.

2022
01:31:10,040 --> 01:31:12,360
Speaker 2: Let's get into some gym ettikid here, What the hell

2023
01:31:12,439 --> 01:31:14,000
Speaker 2: is this guy trying to prove? I could see you

2024
01:31:14,120 --> 01:31:15,760
Speaker 2: trying this, Luke, I mean, what are you doing?

2025
01:31:15,880 --> 01:31:18,840
Speaker 1: So he has a weighted dip belt. He has the

2026
01:31:18,960 --> 01:31:20,880
Speaker 1: bar over his head is called a safety squad bar,

2027
01:31:21,400 --> 01:31:25,200
Speaker 1: and then he's deadlifting conventional on top of it, which

2028
01:31:25,280 --> 01:31:27,720
Speaker 1: is the bar over the back of his neck. It

2029
01:31:27,800 --> 01:31:30,840
Speaker 1: actually makes you lean a little bit forward, so he's

2030
01:31:30,880 --> 01:31:32,919
Speaker 1: able to lean back a little bit with the deadlift

2031
01:31:32,960 --> 01:31:35,479
Speaker 1: and then the thing around his waist. He's I mean,

2032
01:31:35,560 --> 01:31:38,040
Speaker 1: this guy is just an absolute idiot in the most

2033
01:31:38,160 --> 01:31:39,080
Speaker 1: glorious of ways.

2034
01:31:41,120 --> 01:31:43,920
Speaker 2: Cool story, bro, I'm glad you attached that forty five

2035
01:31:43,960 --> 01:31:46,320
Speaker 2: to your bag and you're lifting it up. I mean, yeah,

2036
01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:48,080
Speaker 2: all right, hey, at least you won't have a saggy

2037
01:31:48,120 --> 01:31:51,120
Speaker 2: one luke like we also struggle with at this age.

2038
01:31:51,000 --> 01:31:54,719
Speaker 1: Right, Luke like like the mazzarella cheese on a piece

2039
01:31:54,760 --> 01:31:57,080
Speaker 1: of pizza that's being pulled away from the pie. My friend.

2040
01:31:57,880 --> 01:32:00,559
Speaker 2: Gross. All right, hey, let's get into someone. Let's into one.

2041
01:32:00,600 --> 01:32:02,720
Speaker 2: I got one weightlifting fail for you. Check out this

2042
01:32:02,800 --> 01:32:03,519
Speaker 2: hero that.

2043
01:32:04,040 --> 01:32:07,160
Speaker 1: Okay, so that so that was a jerk. He tries

2044
01:32:07,200 --> 01:32:10,920
Speaker 1: to do it. He sure is. He's tried to do

2045
01:32:11,000 --> 01:32:14,120
Speaker 1: a behind the head split jerk. And oh he fucked

2046
01:32:14,160 --> 01:32:14,640
Speaker 1: that one up.

2047
01:32:15,560 --> 01:32:18,040
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, see that'll just that'll teach you just not

2048
01:32:18,160 --> 01:32:20,400
Speaker 2: to don't get in shape, just you know, get some edibles,

2049
01:32:20,439 --> 01:32:21,519
Speaker 2: get a record, peo.

2050
01:32:21,560 --> 01:32:24,400
Speaker 1: Don't I always tell the folks don't do Olympic lifts.

2051
01:32:24,920 --> 01:32:27,479
Speaker 1: The ship is mad technical. If you don't have a trainer,

2052
01:32:27,560 --> 01:32:29,960
Speaker 1: you're gonna end up like uh Tristan here.

2053
01:32:31,240 --> 01:32:33,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, it's a tip to tip time, Luke.

2054
01:32:33,479 --> 01:32:36,880
Speaker 2: Did you see this? Brazilian soccer star Ronald Dinho posted

2055
01:32:36,920 --> 01:32:39,080
Speaker 2: a photo of him and Mike Tyson. They're almost there.

2056
01:32:39,280 --> 01:32:41,599
Speaker 2: Just touch them, just touch the tips, right, Luke?

2057
01:32:42,600 --> 01:32:45,519
Speaker 1: That is so funny. Ronaldinho? Who who could take more

2058
01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:48,720
Speaker 1: money from a dictator than Ronaldinho? I don't know.

2059
01:32:50,040 --> 01:32:52,640
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, well let's check out rams on ke on

2060
01:32:52,800 --> 01:32:54,320
Speaker 2: drums clientele list.

2061
01:32:54,400 --> 01:32:56,240
Speaker 1: Maybe we can. He's on it.

2062
01:32:56,360 --> 01:32:59,880
Speaker 2: Hey eight a E W star and Bellator. Have youweight?

2063
01:33:00,479 --> 01:33:03,800
Speaker 2: Jake Hager formerly Jack Swagger almost went tea on tea

2064
01:33:03,880 --> 01:33:06,800
Speaker 2: with MJF Maxwell Jacob Friedman into this?

2065
01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:09,720
Speaker 1: Luke? You know I'm not into this?

2066
01:33:10,720 --> 01:33:14,800
Speaker 2: All right? Oh, Luke? I would do anything for love,

2067
01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:17,599
Speaker 2: but I won't do this. Next move to a male friend.

2068
01:33:17,800 --> 01:33:22,040
Speaker 2: This goes a little bit too far, Luke, Okay, that's

2069
01:33:22,120 --> 01:33:25,000
Speaker 2: not I mean, if you're dating, Okay, if not, I

2070
01:33:25,040 --> 01:33:25,840
Speaker 2: don't know, right.

2071
01:33:26,160 --> 01:33:30,760
Speaker 1: No, that's all right, all right, all right, it's not

2072
01:33:30,840 --> 01:33:34,080
Speaker 1: all right. Leave it there. Look at the visor on

2073
01:33:34,320 --> 01:33:35,519
Speaker 1: this winner on the right.

2074
01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:38,479
Speaker 2: Look it may it may not surprise you. But I

2075
01:33:38,600 --> 01:33:40,559
Speaker 2: used to wear a visor like that in like two thousand.

2076
01:33:40,720 --> 01:33:44,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, listen in two thousand. It was stupid then,

2077
01:33:44,880 --> 01:33:47,840
Speaker 1: but it was more popular now.

2078
01:33:48,040 --> 01:33:50,439
Speaker 2: I like girls who wear Abercrombie and Fitch.

2079
01:33:50,560 --> 01:33:54,000
Speaker 1: Right, you know, I mean, this dude definitely lives at

2080
01:33:54,000 --> 01:33:54,759
Speaker 1: home with his parents.

2081
01:33:54,800 --> 01:33:58,400
Speaker 2: There's no denying, Duke, you're drunk guy of the week here.

2082
01:33:58,439 --> 01:34:01,200
Speaker 2: He is, Luke, we've all been to the we've all

2083
01:34:01,280 --> 01:34:03,280
Speaker 2: been to the ATM while drunk. But I don't know

2084
01:34:03,280 --> 01:34:05,120
Speaker 2: if we had this happen, this guy could have used

2085
01:34:05,160 --> 01:34:07,360
Speaker 2: the Corona mask. Jay hit the button there you go.

2086
01:34:07,520 --> 01:34:11,400
Speaker 2: All right, all right, we're having issues here. Look we're struggling.

2087
01:34:15,960 --> 01:34:18,640
Speaker 2: Mentioned you're that old guy behind him watching. You're just like,

2088
01:34:18,840 --> 01:34:22,679
Speaker 2: what the hell? Oh yeah, that is great, Luke.

2089
01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:25,240
Speaker 1: That is It's like, dude, you want, what's the challenge

2090
01:34:25,240 --> 01:34:26,920
Speaker 1: where you take the bottle and you flip it and

2091
01:34:27,000 --> 01:34:29,160
Speaker 1: then it lands on you know, upright, and you win

2092
01:34:29,240 --> 01:34:32,200
Speaker 1: the challenge. It's like the bottle throwing challenge. This dude

2093
01:34:32,280 --> 01:34:34,559
Speaker 1: won man. You know what, I've never been this drunk.

2094
01:34:34,640 --> 01:34:36,639
Speaker 1: I mean I've been drunk where I've passed out and stuff.

2095
01:34:36,640 --> 01:34:40,000
Speaker 1: But like these dudes who can walk around like zombies

2096
01:34:40,000 --> 01:34:41,640
Speaker 1: where they're there, you always feel like if you had

2097
01:34:41,720 --> 01:34:46,200
Speaker 1: one more drink they would completely fall over. But they don't,

2098
01:34:46,280 --> 01:34:48,559
Speaker 1: and so they try to like move through society normally

2099
01:34:49,040 --> 01:34:50,439
Speaker 1: and they end up doing shit like this. Have you

2100
01:34:50,479 --> 01:34:53,120
Speaker 1: ever been that drunk? Yeah?

2101
01:34:55,240 --> 01:34:57,479
Speaker 2: In fact, yes, look, in fact I have, all right,

2102
01:34:57,520 --> 01:34:59,920
Speaker 2: I've been thrown out of many a club for dance

2103
01:35:00,360 --> 01:35:03,000
Speaker 2: inappropriately on the dance floor while they're drunk. Okay, Luke,

2104
01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:05,519
Speaker 2: all right, thank you very much. Uh, let's move on

2105
01:35:05,600 --> 01:35:07,400
Speaker 2: to our last clip of the week. Luke, which one

2106
01:35:07,439 --> 01:35:10,240
Speaker 2: of these I texted you this this morning? Which one

2107
01:35:10,280 --> 01:35:14,080
Speaker 2: of these three? Luke? Whoever's rolling with these dudes ain't

2108
01:35:14,080 --> 01:35:16,519
Speaker 2: coming home? According to the picture? Luke, which one would

2109
01:35:16,520 --> 01:35:17,840
Speaker 2: you wear in public if you had to?

2110
01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:22,919
Speaker 1: The ray lewis one. I mean, I'm not far from Baltimore,

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Speaker 1: so you'll actually see those sis. I guess you could

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Speaker 1: get away with.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was there when a guy died. He didn't

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Speaker 2: kill him.

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Speaker 1: Luke. Okay, oh is that right? Is that what happened.

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Speaker 2: He just totally that's what happened, all right.

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Speaker 1: I said this to you. The only thing missing is

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Speaker 1: the Ray Carruth Jersey.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and the uh and maybe the John Copenhager

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Speaker 2: fighting gloves. Yeah, maybe that too, Luke. All right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's all I got this week. That's all the ship

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Speaker 2: that this show can handle. Luke.

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Speaker 1: So I hope you saw it. Very good? All right,

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Speaker 1: very good? As always? With that in mind, it is time.

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Speaker 1: It is time for odds and ends. What do you

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Speaker 1: have for us? Uh?

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Speaker 2: What the hell did I have?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah I had?

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Speaker 1: What did I have?

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01:36:04,800 --> 01:36:05,599
Speaker 2: Do you remember what I had?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 1: I don't do your job for you?

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Speaker 2: All right? I mean, why don't you go first? Look,

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Speaker 2: I'll think about it, all right.

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Speaker 1: Uh all right, So mine is We've been talking about

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Speaker 1: this dude named Chris Lee. He's a judge in Nevada.

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Speaker 1: And Chris Lee was in the Dolige or Dealidze and

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Speaker 1: Alon fight and he has been on He has been

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Speaker 1: involved in eight split decisions, and in all of those

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Speaker 1: eight split decisions, he's been the only dissenting party. Most

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Speaker 1: of the fighters are the judges. Had it twenty nine

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Speaker 1: twenty eight for Delidze one had at thirty twenty seven.

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Speaker 1: I had a twenty nine to twenty eight and he

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01:36:41,439 --> 01:36:43,360
Speaker 1: had it twenty nine twenty eight. For a line, you're like, well,

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01:36:43,360 --> 01:36:45,160
Speaker 1: it's not so much a scandal. The right guy won

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01:36:45,320 --> 01:36:47,760
Speaker 1: and he was only one round difference, Right, But you've

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Speaker 1: had one, two, three, four, five, six, seven eight. The

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Speaker 1: only times where you've been the dissenter, you've been the

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Speaker 1: only one in that dissenting party. You've had no other

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Speaker 1: person join you. Again, I'm always saying this because nothing

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Speaker 1: will happen, but just pay attention to Chris Lee because

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Speaker 1: he's gonna keep getting assignments. And Dana was like, eventually

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01:37:05,040 --> 01:37:06,680
Speaker 1: this kind of thing is gonna fuck someone's life up.

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01:37:07,080 --> 01:37:09,599
Speaker 1: And Dana and I don't always see eye to eye,

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01:37:09,960 --> 01:37:12,760
Speaker 1: but boys, he right about this didn't happen this time,

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Speaker 1: but it will.

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Speaker 2: Luke, what would I in the year twenty twenty, Hey,

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Speaker 2: Luke Thomas and Dana White interview over zoom put on

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Speaker 2: the Morning Combat Channel. What would that look like? I

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01:37:23,720 --> 01:37:25,879
Speaker 2: don't think it's been a few years, right since you've.

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01:37:26,840 --> 01:37:29,000
Speaker 1: I haven't interviewed him since he cursed me out on

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01:37:29,120 --> 01:37:33,439
Speaker 1: Twitter and then apologized for it back in like six

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Speaker 1: o seven something like that.

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Speaker 2: I think it was like, oh ten maybe, but uh yeah,

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Speaker 2: I could probably set that up. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: you know, Luke, but you know I've sat in the

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Speaker 2: John Morgan chair before. You know, I got connections over there. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The thing is, I want to talk about it, like

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Speaker 1: what would you ask him? It's like, does it matter

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01:37:50,760 --> 01:37:53,960
Speaker 1: if he doesn't want to do the interview properly and

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01:37:54,320 --> 01:37:56,360
Speaker 1: answer the questions? Is like, it's not. I mean you

2173
01:37:56,400 --> 01:37:58,920
Speaker 1: could do it, but it wouldn't be that fun. The

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Speaker 1: whole point is talk to somebody who wants to like

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Speaker 1: do it. I don't like just to have controversy and adversary.

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Speaker 1: I don't need that. I'm looking for somebody who wants

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Speaker 1: I don't know that.

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Speaker 2: I don't need you. I don't need to be linked

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Speaker 2: with a controversial guy. You know, Luke, I'm trying to

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Speaker 2: go places.

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Speaker 1: In my career.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Luke. My odds and ends this week.

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Speaker 2: So here's the deal. We open the show by talking

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Speaker 2: Floyd Logan Paul and Look, it's a question of like

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Speaker 2: how much you're willing to tolerate would you like to

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Speaker 2: watch an old fighter against the guy young punk who's

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Speaker 2: forty pounds heavier. Well, Clarissa shields Luke, who's making a

2188
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Speaker 2: lot of interesting news down there at the Jackson Wing Camp,

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01:38:33,920 --> 01:38:35,920
Speaker 2: training with Holly Holm and John Jones, and you know,

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Speaker 2: shout out to her. She's working hard out there. She

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01:38:38,400 --> 01:38:40,479
Speaker 2: went public and said, you know what, I want to

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Speaker 2: box Jake Paul and I want to put all the

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Speaker 2: money and put it to charity and you know, to

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01:38:45,560 --> 01:38:47,920
Speaker 2: help the water in Flip, Michigan, where she's from, and

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Speaker 2: I will knock him the hell out, Luke. I want

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Speaker 2: to ask you two questions about this, okay, because I

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01:38:54,160 --> 01:38:55,920
Speaker 2: know you're gonna hate it in whatever, but I want

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Speaker 2: to I want to get the questions out. Number one,

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Speaker 2: how far is too far? I mean we talked about

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Speaker 2: Joey Butterfuco had a boxing match with freaking China the

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Speaker 2: ww how far is too far? Would you watch it?

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Speaker 2: In Number two, would she knock out Jake Paul?

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Speaker 1: I have to take a dump. Can we end the show.

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01:39:19,880 --> 01:39:22,240
Speaker 2: Like, are you're okay with Tyson and Jones? You know

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01:39:22,360 --> 01:39:28,599
Speaker 2: your show, You're begrudgingly okay with Logan and Floyd whatever?

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Speaker 2: Would you sign off on them doing with actual commission

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01:39:34,320 --> 01:39:38,160
Speaker 2: an intergender match Jake Paul versus Closs Shields. Would you

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Speaker 2: do it?

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Speaker 1: B see, I have to go potty. I don't think

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Speaker 1: you understand me. I need to speak in the language

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Speaker 1: you understand. I got a poop.

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01:39:50,080 --> 01:39:52,479
Speaker 2: All right, Well, it was good talking to you, Luke. Okay,

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Speaker 2: it was nice nice.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. All right. So those are odds and ends. Let's

2215
01:39:57,160 --> 01:39:59,880
Speaker 1: give folks the heads up on this. You want to

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Speaker 1: send us an email for dead wrong Wednesday, will do

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Speaker 1: have any homework for.

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Speaker 2: This week for the people? Are you or if you

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01:40:50,800 --> 01:40:51,920
Speaker 2: just blown that segment up?

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Speaker 1: You just like whatever? If I have something that really

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01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:58,760
Speaker 1: speaks to me, I will, but I don't. Also, it

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Speaker 1: was good also you the poop train leaving the station.

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Speaker 2: I'm out, guys, I'm out. All right, that's a good show.

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Speaker 1: Thanks, all right, we got a bunch of stuff coming

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Speaker 1: your way, Kayla Harrison Interview. BC's got a bunch of

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Speaker 1: interviews happening. Stick around. We're doing a Rafael levato Q

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Speaker 1: and a on Instagram, so check that out as well.

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Speaker 1: Details are there at Morning Combat for Brian Campbell Malka.

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Speaker 1: In showtime, I'm Luke Thomas. Until next time, May all

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Speaker 1: of your gains be loyal.