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Speaker 2: Welcome in another special episode of What's Right with Nick

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Speaker 2: Wright and the podcast in YouTube shows, we continue our

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Speaker 2: countdown of the fifty greatest players of the last fifty

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Speaker 2: years in the NBA, and today's episode, I can't believe

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Speaker 2: we're already here. We get to the top ten. All

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Speaker 2: go on today's episode is we do players twelve, eleven

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Speaker 2: and ten. We include the inspiration for this project, which

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Speaker 2: I started years and years ago. He's actually the first

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Speaker 2: one up. We'll get to him in just a moment.

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Speaker 2: And all three of these guys have a claim that

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Speaker 2: they were on the single greatest team in NBA history.

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Speaker 2: In fact, I think the two greatest teams in NBA

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Speaker 2: history were comprised of these three players plus you know,

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Speaker 2: obviously some others one notable player who we just had

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Speaker 2: in the rankings. But we will that will make sense

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Speaker 2: when we are done, You're gonna be like, really, the

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Speaker 2: two greatest teams ever. We can discuss that maybe at

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Speaker 2: the very end. But Number twelve the inspiration for this project.

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Speaker 2: You could argue the most underrated player in the history

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Speaker 3: Number twelve Moses Malone.

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Speaker 2: So why is Moses Malone the inspiration for the project?

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Speaker 2: It's because upon research, I was like, why is he

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Speaker 2: not discussed as one of the greatest players ever. He's

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Speaker 2: won three league MVPs. Full list of guys with more

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Speaker 2: Kareem Michael Lebron, Wilt Russell.

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 2: It's the same number of MVPs as Magic and Bird.

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Speaker 2: He has two other top four MVP finishes. By the way,

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Speaker 2: he was four time first team All NBA, four time

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Speaker 2: second Team All NBA, two time All Defense, a six

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Speaker 2: time rebounding champ, a career average of twenty and twelve,

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Speaker 2: and during his eight year peak where he won the

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Speaker 2: three MVPs over eight seasons, he averaged twenty six and

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Speaker 2: and he's top ten all time in points. He's not

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Speaker 2: And we'll talk about his amazing playoff success and some

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Speaker 2: really good playoff success against one Kareem Abdul Jabbar, who

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Speaker 2: finally get there. He was a trendsetter, never played college

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Speaker 2: ball right from high school to the ABA. But the

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Speaker 2: reason I think he doesn't get the long term respect

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Speaker 2: around the league so much. In fact, and before we

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Speaker 2: get to the playoff stuff, true story about Moses Malone

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Speaker 2: in relation to me, I was about eight years old,

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Speaker 2: so this is early nineties. Moses is still playing, and

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Speaker 2: I'm in the back of my dad's car looking through

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Speaker 2: I think it was at Lanah Hawk's card. And the

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Speaker 2: But let's start with nineteen seventy five. He's nineteen years

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Speaker 2: He averages thirty one to eighteen against Kareem. This is Kareem.

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Speaker 2: You could argue, is he's still at his peak? I

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Speaker 2: It's two two? What happens in games five and six?

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Speaker 2: the next year, he's out in round one, but averages

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Speaker 2: twenty eleven for the playoff for the that entire playoff run.

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Speaker 2: Nineteen eighty seven, he's with Washington. Now you're playing the

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Speaker 2: great Detroit Pistons. Isaiah Thomas had thirty one and sixteen,

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Speaker 2: Nineteen eighty eight. Again, Now you're old. Moses came into

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Speaker 2: eighty nine, it's playing for the Hawks, averages twenty one

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Speaker 2: and twelve for the playoffs. So Moses Malone top ten

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Speaker 2: all time, in points, top three all time and rebounds.

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Speaker 2: The only guys with more MVPs are Lebron, Michael Kareem,

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Speaker 2: Wilt and Russell. Arguably the best player is certainly the

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Speaker 2: finals MVP on arguably the best team ever. The twelfth

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Speaker 2: greatest player of the last fifty years won Moses Malone.

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Speaker 2: Now I'm excited for a caller who undoubtedly never watched

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Speaker 2: a single Moses Malone game to tell me why I'm wrong.

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Speaker 2: Let's see who it.

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Speaker 4: Is on take that, Mike Florio. Oh hello, Nick, caught

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Speaker 4: up with your latest ranking Moses Malone. Moses Malone ahead

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Speaker 4: of Yannis and KD.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 4: I'm all for schooling up the youngs.

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Speaker 2: Nick.

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Speaker 4: This one's a bit hard to claim from what I

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Speaker 4: can tell watching on YouTube. Because that's the only place

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Speaker 4: I've ever seen Moses Malone. He was great at offensive rebounding,

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Speaker 4: but usually just cleaning up his own misses. I'm not

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Speaker 4: sure that's actually greatness, but you have him ahead of

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Speaker 4: two of the best players I've ever seen in my life,

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Speaker 4: guys who just scored instead of missing to get their

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Speaker 4: I feel like you're trying to, you know, make a

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Speaker 4: statement to the young people, and I feel like you

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Speaker 4: missed Moses Malone way too high on this ranking.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Yannis or KD could pass Moses Malone. Jannis would

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Speaker 2: the titless year instead of losing in round one. But

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Speaker 2: the three mbps has to matter, The longevity has to matter.

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Speaker 2: The idea that he was just cleaning up his own

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Speaker 2: missus fifty percent from the field for his career, Gabe,

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Speaker 2: look that up, buddy, And so no, I'm very he's

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Speaker 2: the inspiration for this list.

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Speaker 5: He was.

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Speaker 2: If we let me say one more thing about Moses Malone.

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Speaker 2: If you were to ask me, who were the greatest

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Speaker 2: between the basically the start of the league. We'll call

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Speaker 2: most thirteen guys have held that title best player in

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Speaker 2: the league. Moses is one of those guys. It was

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Speaker 2: Bill Russell and Wilt Chamberlain, going back and forth. Then

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Speaker 2: it was Kareem for a decade who took it from Kareem,

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Speaker 2: Bill Russell, who took it from Bill Russell. I'm sorry, jeez,

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Speaker 2: I said that wrong. Who took it from Kareem, Moses

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Speaker 2: Malone who took it from Moses, Larry Bird, then Magic,

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Speaker 2: then Duncan. Then there's some argument some would say after

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Speaker 2: then Yannis. Though that's the full list of people to

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Speaker 2: be the best player a lot Moses is on that list.

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Speaker 2: He's the twelve best player of the last fifty years.

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Speaker 2: We'll be right back with ten and eleven. Ooh boy,

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Speaker 2: these are fluid rankings as we sit here today. We'll

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Speaker 2: they lost four straight. He averaged thirty points, seven rebounds,

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Speaker 2: the Game seven loss to Gervin. Nineteen eighty, He's back

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Speaker 2: in the finals. Outplays Larry Bird, whose name we haven't

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Speaker 2: Kareem is too much in that game with forty to fifteen,

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Speaker 2: They blow the three to one league. They lost games five, six,

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Speaker 2: let's just go back to the finals again, where Doctor

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Speaker 2: You can't dismiss what he did in the ABA, and

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Speaker 2: to Bruce Sard.

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Speaker 7: Love the love you given the Doctor Doctor J.

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Speaker 2: Julius Irvin.

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Speaker 7: A few years ago, nick I started saying that Doctor

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Speaker 7: So if we value the NBA titles of that era,

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Speaker 7: We should value the ABA rings just as much as

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Speaker 2: Three rings for doctor j That's exactly right, Bruh. I

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Speaker 2: couldn't say it any better. Nine time First Team All

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Speaker 2: We went through the resume.

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Speaker 2: It's not unimpeachable, but it is damn near bulletproof. There's

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Speaker 2: Doctor j welcome back in. It is What's right with

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Speaker 2: Spoiler alert for what's about to be revealed in about

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Speaker 2: Then I'm gonna be back in this exact outfit talking

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Speaker 2: momentarily about the finals that just happened, which cemented him

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Speaker 2: So Steph Curry, four time First Team All NBA, three

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Speaker 2: in the playoffs. He was the best player on one

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Speaker 2: champion and the second best player on two other champions.

430
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Speaker 2: Now you might say, hold on, Nick, you have Steph

431
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,679
Speaker 2: ranked the head of Durant. How are you saying that

432
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 2: Durant was the best player, because when they played together

433
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 2: in those finals, Durant was the best. However, Steph, his

434
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 2: totality of his body of work means he has had

435
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 2: the better career. Let's talk about Steph's playoffs stuff, because

436
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 2: I think it's misrepresented on both sides. I think folks

437
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 2: that act like ste has not been great in the

438
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 2: playoffs are lying, and folks that act like, actually, STEP's

439
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 2: been a better in the finals than in the regular season.

440
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 2: That's obviously a lot. Okay, twenty thirteen first playoff series ever,

441
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 2: he has a thirty and thirteen, and he has a

442
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 2: forty four and eleven in double overtime against the Spurs

443
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:23,199
Speaker 2: to start round two. I believe that was his greatest

444
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 2: playoff game. That it's unfair, it wasn't his greatest playoff game ever,

445
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 2: but that was the welcome to the to super stardom

446
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 2: Steph Curry moment when everyone had to take notice. Twenty fourteen,

447
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 2: they lose in seven against the Clippers in round one.

448
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 2: He averages twenty three to eight for the series, including

449
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 2: a thirty three point five rebound, nine er sisters three

450
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 2: steal game in Game seven. So that's a game seven

451
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 2: against Chris Paul, Steph's second year in the playoffs, and

452
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 2: he has a thirty three to five, nine to three

453
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 2: in game seven. Twenty fifteen sweep of Anthony Davis in

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00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 2: New Orleans averages thirty four, five and seven and had

455
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 2: his second career forty point playoff game. In round two,

456
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,959
Speaker 2: he has a thirty two and ten to close out Memphis.

457
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 2: You remember that series, that series Memphis was up to one.

458
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 2: That was actually a little bit of, you know, a

459
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,640
Speaker 2: tumult for the Warriors. They figured it out in games four,

460
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,400
Speaker 2: to five and six, Steph closed them out with thirty

461
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 2: two and ten in the conference finals against Houston, averages

462
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 2: thirty one points, five rebounds, six assists. And then in

463
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 2: those finals, what everybody remembers is Deli giving him trouble

464
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 2: Lebron's masterpieces in games one, two, and three. What should

465
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 2: not be forgotten is this Game four of those finals.

466
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Speaker 2: I believe to be Steph Curry's finest playoff moment. He

467
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,400
Speaker 2: had thirty or game five, pardon me not game four.

468
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 2: He had thirty seven, seven and four in the key

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Speaker 2: game Game five of those finals to go up three

470
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 2: to two on Cleveland. Deli had since been to the

471
00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 2: hospital getting ibs. He was so tired from running around Steph.

472
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 2: That was that was a great team. But because Clay

473
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 2: doesn't dribble and Draymond was a better offensive player then

474
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 2: than he is now. But everybody knew you had to

475
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 2: stop Steph. He still dropped thirty seven to go up

476
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 2: three to two on the Cabs in those finals. He

477
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 2: did average in those finals twenty six points per game. Now,

478
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 2: I believe Lebron was MVP of those finals, but it

479
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 2: is criminal that in the official NBA record books, Steph

480
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 2: Curry got zero Finals MVP votes. It was seven for

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00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:36,439
Speaker 2: Andre Guadala, four for Lebron, zero for Steph. If you

482
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 2: weren't going to vote for Lebron, not voting for Steph

483
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 2: there as crazy, especially how he finished it. Okay, so

484
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 2: now they're the champions. Then in twenty sixteen, he is

485
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 2: as good of a regular season as any players ever had.

486
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,919
Speaker 2: His team wins seventy three games, he wins the scoring title,

487
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 2: he wins anamnes MVP. He then gets hurt right before

488
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 2: the playoffs, comes or right at the beginning of playoffs,

489
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 2: comes back and has forty points, nine rebounds, eight assists,

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00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,360
Speaker 2: including a record that I don't know if will ever

491
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 2: be broken seventeen points in overtime. He had a seventeen

492
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 2: point overtime period in his first game back against Dame

493
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 2: and CJ and Portland. That was the famous I'm back game.

494
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 2: Who was kind of a little weird because then after

495
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 2: that Warriors fans were like, oh, STEP's hurt when he

496
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 2: didn't play great in the finals, but he had seventeen

497
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 2: in overtime after then. This is key one of the

498
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 2: reasons he's ahead of Durant in these rankings. They're down

499
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 2: three to one to OKC Games five, six, and seven,

500
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 2: he averages thirty three, seven and eight, including in game seven,

501
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 2: another huge Game seven thirty six points, five rebounds, eight assists.

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00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 2: Then the first four against Cleveland he plays well. He

503
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 2: plays unbelievably in Game four thirty eight points, five rebounds,

504
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 2: six assists to go up three to one on the Cabs.

505
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 2: But then we know what happened. Lebron and Kyrie had

506
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 2: dual masterpieces in game five. Lebron had a singular masterpiece

507
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 2: in Game six, and then Steph had the worst playoff

508
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 2: game of his life in game seven. Listen, that's got

509
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 2: to be part of the story. He was I think

510
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 2: six for nineteen. I can pull it up real quick.

511
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 2: I think it was six for nineteen. We all remember

512
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 2: the behind the back pass out of bounds earlier in

513
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 2: the series. His you know, his wife accuses the league

514
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 2: of being rigged for ratings or money. He throws his

515
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 2: mouthpiece at a fan. The whole thing's ugly, so that

516
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 2: was tough for him. But then to his credit, he

517
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 2: recognizes the Warriors can't beat Lebron as presently constituted not

518
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 2: a healthy Cavs team. He gets Kevin Durant to come

519
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 2: join him, and then they have. You could argue I

520
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 2: said it earlier. The two greatest teams ever, the eighty

521
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 2: three Sixers and the twenty seventeen Warriors. Why they were

522
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 2: both championship caliber teams that had been multiple finals and

523
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 2: then added and in their prime league MVP. The Sixers

524
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 2: added Moses, the Warriors added Durant. If people are like, oh,

525
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,719
Speaker 2: how you know who was? How good were the ninety

526
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 2: six Bulls, well what if the ninety seven Bulls added

527
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 2: to kim olaj one, then they'd be the greatest team ever.

528
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 2: That's essentially what the Warriors did. They only did that

529
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 2: because Steph allowed them to do it. Twenty seventeen, they're

530
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 2: just sweeping their way through the playoffs. That looks like

531
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 2: and to close out Portland. Steph has thirty seven to

532
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,479
Speaker 2: seven and eight, averages thirty five and seven for the series.

533
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 2: Game one of the Western Afference Finals has another forty

534
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:39,479
Speaker 2: piece averages thirty two, six and five for the series,

535
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 2: as they swept the entire West averages twenty seven, eight

536
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 2: and nine in the finals, so that's important. Those were

537
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 2: probably STEP's best finals. He averaged twenty seven to eight

538
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 2: and nine. The problem is Durant averaged like thirty five.

539
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 2: Soever it was clear Durant was Finals MVP for the

540
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 2: playoff run. He averaged twenty eight six and seven twenty

541
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Speaker 2: eighteen Western Conference Finals. This is key. These are again

542
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 2: clutch moments facing adversity. They're down three to two to Houston.

543
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 2: He has twenty nine to five and six, and then

544
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 2: in game seven twenty seven points, nine rebound centesus four

545
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 2: steals to get to his fourth straight Finals. Could have

546
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 2: been the finals MVP at thirty seven in the final

547
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 2: game of those finals and average twenty eight six and

548
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 2: seven for the finals, but Katie got it, mostly because

549
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 2: he hit that big shot over Lebron For the second

550
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 2: straight year twenty nineteen, he has a thirty eight to

551
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 2: fifteen and seven fifteen rebound Steph underrated rebounder firs size

552
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 2: thirty eight to fifteen and seven to start the playoffs

553
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 2: and then an iconic game against Houston. Durant's already gone down.

554
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 2: If you just look at the box score, you say, oh,

555
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 2: game six against Houston, Steph at thirty three points. He

556
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 2: had zero in the first half and he had thirty

557
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 2: three in the second half to beat James Harden Send

558
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 2: them home, beat them in Houston, swept Portland without Durant

559
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 2: in the conference finals, averaging thirty seven, eight and seven.

560
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 2: Game three of the twenty nineteen finals tied one game apiece.

561
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 2: Durant's not back yet. Steph had forty seven, eight and seven,

562
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 2: but the Warriors lost by double digits in that game.

563
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 2: Averaged thirty one five and six, not on great efficiency,

564
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 2: but still thirty one five and six. For the finals,

565
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 2: they obviously, you know, losing six. Durant comes back. The

566
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 2: one What also hurts Steph there is they had two

567
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 2: wins there. One of the two was when Durant came back,

568
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 2: had eleven points in a quarter and then popped his achilles.

569
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 2: But at that point he has five finals, he has

570
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 2: three rings. Then he misses the playoffs back to back years,

571
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,959
Speaker 2: and now this year is back in the finals. So

572
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 2: that's why he is where he is, without question. One

573
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 2: of the twelve girls players the last fifty years won

574
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 2: Stephan Curry. Let's get to a Steph Curry caller or

575
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 2: callers if we can, please.

576
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 5: What's up, Nick? How you doing? Melissa roll In here

577
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 5: in national NBA reporter for Fox Sports. I have a

578
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 5: question for you Steph Curry obviously completely changed the game.

579
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 5: He revolutionized the sport. He made it possible for players

580
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,719
Speaker 5: to shoot from anywhere on the court. He made it

581
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 5: so that NBA teams had to change their rosters. He

582
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 5: made it so that players had to change their games.

583
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 5: Did you consider putting him higher on your list just

584
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 5: for the mere fact that Steph Curry changed NBA basketball

585
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 5: as we know it, and.

586
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 8: That it's Pablo host of esp and Daily Debatable from

587
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 8: Around the Horn PTI all that stuff. I'm just here

588
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 8: to automatically reject wherever you rank Steph Curry. And I

589
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 8: truly mean automatically, because asking you to rank Steph is

590
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 8: kind of like asking Kanye to assess where Pete Davidson

591
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 8: ranks on a list of all time funniest comedians. And

592
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 8: I don't need to compare Pete Davidson and Steph at all.

593
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 2: One guy.

594
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 9: He affected the way millions on millions of people approach

595
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 9: and could see the game of basketball.

596
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 3: He's the greatest shooter of all time.

597
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 8: Blah blah blah blah blah.

598
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 9: Pete Davidson also pretty good shoot your shotter as it were,

599
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 9: But simply because he's taken away so much of what

600
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 9: you love, right, Like, whether it's your credibility of e

601
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 9: the Andrew Wiggins stuff or all the titles that you

602
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 9: wanted for Lebron, it's just impossible for you to assess them.

603
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 2: And so for that reason I am out, Oh, okay, well,

604
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 2: I appreciate Pablo, I think not even looking at where

605
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 2: I have Steph rank before saying that he would have

606
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 2: him ranked higher, I would just challenge anyone to Again,

607
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,760
Speaker 2: I don't want to reveal the rest of the list,

608
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 2: but you guys know that nine names, ten names that

609
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 2: haven't been discussed yet. You know we haven't You got

610
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 2: him ahead of Shack? Do you have n't had of

611
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 2: Larry Bird? Do you have him? Kobe Bryant, Akim Olajuan,

612
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 2: the guys who are gonna be coming up in future

613
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 2: episodes like is that do you? I don't think you do.

614
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 2: And as far as do I give Steph extra legacy

615
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 2: credit for how he changed the game, I do not.

616
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:42,919
Speaker 2: I If we're ranking the greatest baseball players ever, how

617
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 2: do you fit? Do you have Jackie Robinson number one?

618
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:50,240
Speaker 2: Maybe the most important athlete ever, but it's not better

619
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 2: than Babe Ruth. Those are separate discussions in a similar way. Yes,

620
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 2: Steph Curry changed the game, but that to me, if

621
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 2: I'm talking about how impactful you were, how great you were,

622
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 2: I can't give you legacy points on that. I think

623
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,240
Speaker 2: I have him ranked quite fairly. I reject nearly everything

624
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 2: Pablo said, except for the long list of jobs he

625
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 2: currently has that he does, you know, at a halfway

626
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 2: decent level. We'll be right back, all right, and now

627
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 2: I'm back to the day after Steph Curry won his

628
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,439
Speaker 2: fourth title to talk about these finals, because we weren't

629
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 2: able to talk about it during the bulk of that

630
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 2: Steph Curry segment because we recorded it right when the

631
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:35,959
Speaker 2: finals started. So Steph going into these finals was right

632
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 2: the neck and neck with Doctor J for eleven or ten.

633
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 2: And what pushed him over the top was the two

634
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 2: kind of odd omissions from his resume. He got them

635
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:52,439
Speaker 2: both accomplished one obviously a clear, con conclusive, no doubt

636
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 2: about it finals MVP. I know some people argue, and

637
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 2: I'm one of them, he deserved it over Iguidala in fifteen.

638
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 2: But some of us who argue that think that was

639
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 2: really a fight for second place, because Lebron should have

640
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 2: won it. There hadn't yet been a Finals in his

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Speaker 2: career where he was unquestionably the best guy on either

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Speaker 2: team this Finals, there is no doubt about it. Additionally,

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Speaker 2: he also hadn't yet had the transcendent, all time memorable

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Speaker 2: finals game. He had some very good finals games, but

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Speaker 2: the most points he ever had scored in the finals

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Speaker 2: game came in a loss. As we discussed, the thirty

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Speaker 2: seven against Cleveland in Game five in twenty fifteen is

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Speaker 2: a great game, but I don't know how many people

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Speaker 2: really remember it. People are going to remember Game four,

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Speaker 2: down to one against Boston, who had seemingly taken control

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Speaker 2: of the series. He has forty three points, ten rebounds,

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Speaker 2: and out of this world shooting experience to quiet TD

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Speaker 2: Garden to get the Warriors back in control of the series.

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Speaker 2: And then while he wasn't great in Game five, Game six,

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Speaker 2: he was sensational again thirty four to seven and seven

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Speaker 2: rebounding from the first playoff game of his life where

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Speaker 2: he didn't hit a three by making five of his

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Speaker 2: first six threes, hitting six overall, winning a unanimous Finals MVP.

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Speaker 2: So four rings and the architect in the heartbeat of

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Speaker 2: the best dynasty since Jordan's Bulls. This rings cements the

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Speaker 2: Warriors in my opinion. Six trips to the finals in

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Speaker 2: eight years, four rings in eight years better than the

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Speaker 2: Spurs dynasty. The Spurs won five rings, went to six finals,

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Speaker 2: but they did it from ninety nine to fourteen, so

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Speaker 2: over fifteen years. Better than the Lakers with Shaq and Kobe,

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Speaker 2: who went to four finals won three rings in a

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Speaker 2: five year stretch. This is better than that. So he's

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Speaker 2: the architect of the best dynasty of his era. He

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Speaker 2: has four rings, he has two league MVPs. As we discussed,

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Speaker 2: he's the greatest shooter ever, he's one of the greatest

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Speaker 2: teammates ever. And now finally, his resume has no blank marks.

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Speaker 2: He's checked off every box you would want to check

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Speaker 2: as a player. It's why he is in the top

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Speaker 2: ten of the fifty best players of the last fifty years.

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Speaker 2: Next week we will get to players eight and nine,

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Speaker 2: a couple of big men, and the order and who

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