1 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: This is the OTP presented by Farm Bureau Health Plans. 2 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: Look to the folks at Farm Bureau Health Plans when 3 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 1: you need someone who understands the xs and o's of 4 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 1: healthcare coverage. They've been protecting Tennessee and since nineteen forty seven. 5 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: I'm Mike Keith, and we're taking a spin around the 6 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: AFC South as we prepare for the twenty twenty one draft. 7 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 1: Our leadoff man is Matt Taylor, the voice of the 8 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts. Matthew, how are you? I'm good if I'm 9 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: the lead off man, I'm looking to you know, lay 10 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 1: one down the infield, just get on base, maybe draw 11 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 1: a walk. So I'm honored to be the lead off. 12 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: There you go, draw walk, hit by a pitch, whatever 13 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: you need to do. Well played, sir. All right. So 14 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: the reason we wanted to have you lead off is 15 00:00:55,520 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: because the Indianapolis Colts have the pick one on in 16 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: front of the Tennessee Titans, which should make things a 17 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: little interesting between the two rivals. How do you see 18 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: the Colts playing the first round or do they even 19 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: play the first round this year? Now, it's an interesting question, 20 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 1: and I think you know obviously since Carson Wentz has 21 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: come into the fold and makes it a lot more 22 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 1: fascinating on what the Colts can do. And they've got 23 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: some flexibility now. And the two biggest needs for the Colts, 24 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: just if you look at them big picture, would be 25 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 1: offensive tackle with Anthony Gasanzo deciding to retire. And then 26 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: you look at defensive end, and Denico Autry is down 27 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: with you guys now there in Tennessee, and I think 28 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: he's probably one of the most underrated players in the 29 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 1: league as we sit here and talk right now. Justin 30 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: Houston is still a free agent. So that's a lot 31 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: of production from last year's stack total and just putting 32 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: pressure on the quarterback that's not on the roster here 33 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: at the moment. And the Colts have some young up 34 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: and coming players, you know, guys they've invested in that 35 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: they're waiting to kind of turn the corner and be 36 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: really productive, like Ben Bnigou and Komocha Terray. But bottom line, 37 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: the Colts don't have a player on their roster right 38 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: now that has proven he can go out and get you, 39 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: you know, ten eleven sacks in a season. So I 40 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: would say offensive tackle and defensive end gotta be the 41 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: two biggest priorities for the Colts heading into this first round, 42 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: and you're exactly right, trading back might be an option 43 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: as well for Chris Ballard. I mean, that's where you're 44 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: not breaking news in terms of what he likes to 45 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 1: do and acquire more picks throughout the course of a draft. 46 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 1: In fact, he's only he only has six picks going 47 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 1: into this draft, which is the fewest amount of picks 48 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: he's had heading into a draft since he's been the 49 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,959 Speaker 1: gem of the Colts since twenty seventeen. He doesn't have 50 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: a third round pick because he had to send that 51 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: to Philadelphia as part of the Carson Wentz trade, So 52 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: would not be shocked at all to see him trade 53 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: back out of that first round, knowing, hey, I still 54 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 1: got a handful of guys on my board, but I 55 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 1: think I can get in the second round. You know, 56 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: maybe there's some Day two, Day three steals he has 57 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: up his sleeve, So we'll see. But the Colts have 58 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: some flexibility now and they're not sort of, you know, 59 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: backed into a corner like maybe they were at the 60 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: beginning of the off season when Philip Rivers decides to retire. 61 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: Now you've got have Carson Wentz and you've got some 62 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: quarterbacks stability potentially on this franchise. Matt, Why was Carson 63 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: Wentz the right choice for the Indianapolis Colt at quarterback? Well, 64 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 1: they're trying to duplicate what they had last year in 65 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers in the sense that you know, Frank Craik 66 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: has coached a handful of places in the NFL. He's 67 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: had really good experiences as being a quarterback coach, an 68 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. You know, he knows these guys. So for 69 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: the second year in a row, they're bringing in a 70 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: quarterback that he's worked with and has had a great 71 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: deal of experience with. I mean, those guys were together 72 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator and quarterback in twenty seventeen with the Eagles, 73 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: and if Carson Wentz doesn't get hurt that year, he's 74 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: probably going to be the MVP of the league. He 75 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: was a thirty three touchdown, seven interception player. But just 76 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: like Philip Rivers, you know last year in two Mony, 77 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,839 Speaker 1: the year before with the Chargers, he was coming off 78 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: a bad season and everybody was saying, how much does 79 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: Rivers have left? Is this a good idea? The same 80 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: thing applies here with Carson Wentz. Obviously two and twenty 81 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: was a bad season for him, but most people agree 82 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: it's a good player having a bad season. This is 83 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: non indicative of the type of player he's going to 84 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: be in the future. So I think it makes a 85 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: really good sense for the Colts to make this move 86 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 1: because they've got really good intil on Carson Wentz both 87 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 1: as a player as a person, and you know, just 88 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: speculating here a little bit. Maybe he felt like last 89 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: year he had to shoulder a lot of the responsibility 90 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 1: and feel it felt like maybe he had to make 91 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 1: a play every single time he touched the ball as 92 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: his season got worse as the Eagle season kept going 93 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: downhill in terms of record. He's not gonna have to 94 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: do that, yere. He's got pretty good offensive line. He's 95 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: got Jonathan Taylor, maybe the best young running back into 96 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: the game. I think has limitless potential. T Y Hilton 97 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 1: is back. A lot of you playmakers on the outside 98 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: to throw the ball too, like Michael Pittman and Paris Campbell. 99 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: If he can come back and be healthy, so he 100 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 1: just has to be himself. He obviously has to make plays. 101 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 1: Every quarterback in the NFL has to make a handful 102 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: of plays every game in order to win, but maybe 103 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: he doesn't feel like he has the pressure sixty five 104 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 1: seventy snaps per game like maybe UFL last year in Philadelphia. 105 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 1: Are the Colts worried about their secondary and do you 106 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 1: expect that to be an area of emphasis in their draft. Well, 107 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: they've got Xavier Rhodes back, they have TJ. Kerry back. 108 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 1: They're still banking on rock you're seeing coming back and 109 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: having a bounce back season after what's been a rocky 110 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: kind of up and down freshman and sophomore campaigns in 111 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: the NFL. But they still like him and they think 112 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: that he can be a core starter for them in 113 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 1: the near future, maybe beginning as early as next season, 114 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: because they've got the pieces. They've got the two safeties, 115 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 1: the young safeties in the back end with Cary Willis 116 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: and Julian Blackman. Kenny Moore is one of the best 117 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: nickel corners in the game. So for next year, they 118 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 1: really like what they have. But you're exactly right. In 119 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: long term that's going to be the question because roads 120 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: and carry are back, but they're one your deals reportedly, 121 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: so you might be looking for some consistency to pair 122 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 1: with Kenny Moore. Hopefully Rocky Scene kind of takes the 123 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: next step. But no, would not be surprised at all 124 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 1: to seem that Colts go after a corner potentially on 125 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: you know, in rounds two, round three, if if, if 126 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 1: there are guys there, and knowing what we know about 127 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: the cornerback draft class, it is pretty deep and you 128 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: can get some pretty good players, you know, in the 129 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 1: top ten at that position, and they might be there, 130 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: you know, in round three, round four, to get a 131 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 1: pretty good steal on a guy Matt With the Colts 132 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: having good available salary cap room, do you expect them 133 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: to be very active in the third phase of free 134 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: agency post draft in May and June. Now, that's that's 135 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 1: a really good question. And I do think the Colts 136 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 1: are going to be active in that regard, and they 137 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 1: do have the money to spend. They still have a 138 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,359 Speaker 1: decent amount of salary cap left. And going back to 139 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 1: that conversation when we had about justin Houston, he kind 140 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 1: of fits the player mold on why he might be 141 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: affected by the salary cap going down. He's over the 142 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: age of thirty, only has a handful of years left, 143 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: and you know, teams are kind of waiting to see 144 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: what his value is on the open market, trying not 145 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: to overspend for a player that you know has only 146 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: a handful of years left in the tank. So players 147 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: like that, you know, also guys on their roster from 148 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: last year, they're still free agents. Trey Burton I think 149 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: he falls into that category as well. And going to 150 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: tight end, and we talk about the biggest needs on 151 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: the team, don't forget about tight end as well. You know, 152 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: Trey Burton last year showed clashes of what he could 153 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: do in the offense, kind of being that versatile piece 154 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: that they've had under Frank Breich. You know, I go 155 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: back to Eric Ebron in twenty eighteen. He was just 156 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: such a force inside the red zone. He was a 157 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: field stressing tight end. This offense has kind of been 158 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: at their best when they've had a guy like that. 159 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: And you go back to twenty seventeen in Philadelphia when 160 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: Frank Breich was there, he had to he had zach Ertz, 161 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: that type of guy. So tight ends are a huge 162 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: part of the Colts offense. In fact, Frank's been here 163 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: since two eighteen. That position group has over a thousand 164 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: receiving yards and thirty six touchdowns, so they're still looking 165 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: for a guy like that. So whether that's Trey Burton 166 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: later on in free agency or the draft, wouldn't be 167 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: surprised to see the Colts, you know, use some of 168 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: that salary cap money at tight end. But no, the 169 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: Colts there, they do a really good job of getting 170 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: banged for their bucks and free agency, they're prudent, uh, 171 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: they kind of stick to their value on players. So 172 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. But they've got the money, but 173 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: they also know they've got a handful of really key 174 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: impactful players that they're trying to resign and and get 175 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,599 Speaker 1: have them stay off the market in free agency in 176 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: the near future, like Quenton Nelson and Darius Leonard and 177 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: Braydon Smith. So they're they're pretty they're pretty good with 178 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: their money and they're gonna, you know, save some of 179 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: that for extensions, but then also have a little bit 180 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: left over in the kitty to get some impactful guys 181 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 1: on some pretty team friend deals. If you will later 182 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: on in free agency in the next couple of months, 183 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: please to transition next to the voice of the Houston Texans. 184 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: My friend Mark vanderber Mark. Thanks for joining me, Mike. 185 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: Always a pleasure looking forward to the season. As always, 186 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: it has been an eventful offseason for the Texans in 187 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: terms of free agent acquisitions. Necessario has been very busy 188 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: since becoming the GM. What are the ones that you 189 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: feel like have been the most significant additions to the 190 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: Texans roster so far? Well, it's really been necessary to 191 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: overhaul the team. They had a lot of frickly contract 192 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: situations when you look at what the future was going 193 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: to be like, salary cap wise and everything, so they 194 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:42,719 Speaker 1: had to make a lot of moves. I know everybody's 195 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: talking about the big story out there, and you know, 196 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: we don't really address that much because it's a legal matter, 197 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: but obviously I think they have to take every single 198 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 1: thing into consideration, every possibility here, Mike, And you could 199 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: tell by the moves they've made that they have because 200 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: you know, this is a fluid situation and certain things 201 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:02,559 Speaker 1: you just don't know how they're going to play out 202 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: football wise. So you know, I think that adding the 203 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: running backs they've added has been really significant. When you 204 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: look at Mark Ingram, when you look at Philip Lindsay, 205 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 1: and you still have David Johnson the board, so you 206 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: have a nice three headed monster there, and who knows 207 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: what else happens. And then the quarterback situation to Rod 208 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: Taylor is a really great addition because you could start 209 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: him if you have to, obviously, and he's been very 210 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: good for teams. You know, he doesn't turn the ball over, 211 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: he's very steady, he's an elder statesman. Also, he's somebody 212 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 1: everyone respects, so that's good. I think the locker room 213 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:37,839 Speaker 1: really changes with guys like Ingram and Taylor and even 214 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: Marcus Cannon and they brought him with a trade with 215 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: the Patriots. I think Cannon's been definitely one of those 216 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 1: key acquisitions, as you pointed out, and also Shack Lawson 217 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: on the defensive line. I think he'll be a real 218 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: big boost for this team. But they have a lot 219 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: of guys, I mean dozens of players literally coming into 220 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: the Houston Texans building. Mark, how do you prepare to 221 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: cover the two twenty one NFL Draft when your team 222 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: does not have a selection until pick number sixty seven 223 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 1: early in the third round. Well, Mike, we have a 224 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: lot of experience at this. This is three out of 225 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: the last four years where the Texans don't have a 226 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: number one pick and two out of the last four 227 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: with no first or second. And in fact, a couple 228 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 1: of years ago we did a draft party and we said, 229 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 1: let's do it on Friday night because we have no 230 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,719 Speaker 1: picks on Thursday night, and that's what we did, and 231 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: it was still a fun party. And that was the 232 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: year they picked up Justin Reid and two other third rounders, 233 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: and it really was a pretty good draft of the 234 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: Texans as it turned out. I think that you just 235 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: have to look at look. The first night is going 236 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: to be about the league. The second night, the Texans 237 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: kick in gear and let's see if Nick makes any moves, 238 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 1: because one thing about him, I think he's going to 239 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: be moving and shaking all over the place with this roster. 240 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: He is nowhere near done. He's an acquisition maker and 241 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: a trademaker, so I expect him to move up and 242 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: down that board a bit. Now. It might not be 243 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 1: earth shattering, Sports center leading type stuff, but it will 244 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: be significant as far as the franchise goes. And as 245 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: you know, you can pick up good players from the 246 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: third round on down, and if you don't, you're not 247 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 1: gonna have a good team anyway, no matter who you 248 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 1: pick in the first round. So we'll see how it goes. 249 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 1: So for us, hey, we have a lot to cover. 250 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 1: They have eight picks and let's see where the chips fall. 251 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: So your thought process is they could be almost Seattle 252 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: like with how they bob and weave in day two 253 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: in day three. I believe that he could because you 254 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,079 Speaker 1: look at the history with the Patriots. Now I know 255 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: he wasn't pulling all the strings with the Patriots, and 256 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:37,359 Speaker 1: I think it's interesting. It's really notable to see Cassio 257 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 1: at work at the helm here because he gets a team. 258 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: They're in this situation. They're coming off four wins, They've 259 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: got a lot of, like I said, contract situations they 260 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: had to deal with right away. They needed to free 261 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: up cap space, and you see the amount of work 262 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: he's put it already as the final decision maker. Now 263 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: we're going to see him operate the draft, and I 264 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: do believe he will move around quite a bit that 265 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: he wants to target certain players, but he's not going 266 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: to give up too much to get those players. At 267 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: the same time, he knows he has a little time 268 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: to work with. But look, they everyone calls it a rebuild, 269 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 1: and look I get it. From the outside looking in, 270 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: it looks like that, but you know how it is, Mike, 271 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: You're trying to win every game you play. That's the 272 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: situation there in. They want to put the best possible 273 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: team on the field. I know that sounds cliche, but 274 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: I believe they're gonna be a little bit better than 275 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: people think here. And let's just see what it all 276 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: looks like come September. How do you believe the Houston 277 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: Texans will change under their new head coach David Kelly. 278 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: You know, that's a great question. Cully is such a 279 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: positive guy. He's been in my office a couple of 280 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 1: times already, like Mike, just coming by, checking in, saying hello, 281 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: sharing some words of wisdom. He is impossible not to 282 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,959 Speaker 1: like Mike. It's not just positivity, it's energy, and I 283 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: think he brings that to the table and I think 284 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: everyone's going to feed off of that, and the success 285 00:13:56,559 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: of the coordinators will largely determine with a team, the 286 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 1: success of the team. And I believe that having Tim 287 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: Kelly back is big for this squad. With pet Hamilton, 288 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 1: a guy who's got a ton of experience as a 289 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: quarterbacks coach, and then you look at the defensive side 290 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: of the ball. You have Lovey Smith, who's seen everything 291 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: in this league and done everything, and there he is 292 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: coaching the defense. So I like their staff. I love 293 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: Cully being in charge. You know. I go back to 294 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: Raymond Barry taking over the Patriots when they were going 295 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: nowhere with Ron Meyer or they were actually okay, but 296 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,239 Speaker 1: they made that change and Barry had never been a coordinator, 297 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: and Barry leads them to a Super Bowl a year later. 298 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: And then you look at guys that Cully has worked with, 299 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: like Andy Reid and John Harbon. They weren't coordinators before 300 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: they got their head coaching jobs and it worked out 301 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: well for them. So I believe it's going to work 302 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: out well for Cully. He's got the goods to make 303 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: it work. And the age means nothing to me. That 304 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: guy's got way more energy than I do than most 305 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: forty year old guys, most thirty five year old guys. 306 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: That is not an issue. I think he's going to 307 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: really bring the heat and it's going to be good 308 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: for this squad. Mark Van Demry, the voice of the 309 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: Houston Texans, talking with me right now about what's going 310 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: on with this ball club as we all prepare for 311 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty one NFL Draft. Mark, you touched on 312 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: this a little bit as regards to Texans free agency, 313 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: but to take it more draft specific, do you believe 314 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: the uncertainty around the Deshaun Watson situation will affect the 315 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: Texans draft strategy? You know, assuming they don't make any 316 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: blockbuster deal before the draft, that I would doubt there 317 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: would be a blockbuster deal, like I said, but I 318 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: think there will be deals within the draft. As I 319 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: pointed out, I do think that at some point, you know, 320 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: Watson or no Watson or whatever happens there, I would 321 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: think that they would take a quarterback because with the 322 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: amount of picks they have, and just because maybe they'd 323 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: want to develop a young guy. Now that could be 324 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: Ryan Finley who they picked up, but let's just say that, 325 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: I think they might take somebody later on. You know, 326 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: as I say that, Mike, you know, it all depends 327 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: on you know, who's available. Do they like the guy, 328 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: do they really believe in the guy, or just somebody 329 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: to bring in as a camp arm and let's see 330 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: if it works out. Let's see if we can put 331 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: them on a long term plan on the practice squad 332 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: or something. I'm not sure how that's going to go, 333 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: but I think they feel like they've got stability there 334 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: with Taylor, but they're definitely going to add somebody, whether 335 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: it's a free agent or a draft choice. So with 336 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: the draft coming up, let's just say raft choice. And 337 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: this is me talking about them obviously, but it would 338 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: not shock me at all they took a quarterback. Finally, 339 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: Mark Texans big needs in your opinion heading into the draft, Well, 340 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: corner I always look at because I think that you 341 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: have to find some talent there to help bolster the situation. 342 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: They do have a lot of options now, you know, 343 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: heading into this offseason, Mike, I was thinking, what are 344 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: they going to do with that spot? Now? They have 345 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: a number of guys they could put there, But are 346 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: they players that can you know, play here for five 347 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: years and make Pro Bowls and all of that. Only 348 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: the coaches and talent evaluators can answer that as far 349 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: as what their projections are. But I think that they'll 350 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: look in the defensive backfield to try to strengthen that 351 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: and if they can find a pass rusher or you know, 352 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,199 Speaker 1: a hidden talent pass rusher, because again, they don't pick 353 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: up the first or second round. That would be an 354 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: area I would think they would want to explore. You 355 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: know a lot of people talk about receiver, but you 356 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: know they've got receivers. The thing is are they going 357 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: to be around? You know, they have a pretty good 358 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:21,239 Speaker 1: group here still, even with Fuller departing. You know, they 359 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: still have Brandon Cooks and Randall Cobb and Kiki QT 360 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: looks pretty good at times. And you know that's not 361 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: a bad place to start at all. They picked up 362 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: Chris Conley's got a ton of talent and he could 363 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:33,919 Speaker 1: really contribute to this team. So we'll see how it 364 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: plays out. But one thing that Nick said last week, 365 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: they're not done and the team's going to look different 366 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: in August than it does now. And I think he 367 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: wasn't just talking about who they acquired the draft and 368 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 1: undrafted free agents. I think they're still going to do 369 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 1: some moving and shaking with these free agents. Have I 370 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 1: said moving and shaking enough? Probably? Mark Vandimira the Houston Texans, 371 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining us on the OTP presented 372 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:56,959 Speaker 1: by far Bureau Health Plans. When it comes to your 373 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: healthcare coverage, you should be the one to make the 374 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 1: call they've been Tennessee and since nineteen forty seven. To 375 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 1: wrap up this OTP, let's talk Jacksonville Jaguars with the 376 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: Voice of the Jaguars, Frank Frangie. Frank, thanks for taking time, 377 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 1: my captain, to do it. Man. How's everybody in that ville? 378 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: Everybody here is interested to see what Jacksonville is going 379 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: to do in the NFL Draft, because you are going 380 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: to be busy, busy, busy, And I guess first and 381 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: foremost talk about the energy of Urban Meyer coming in 382 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 1: and the addition of Trevor Lawrence and just what those 383 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: two moves mean to the entire franchise. There's a buzz 384 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: in town, Mica, as you can imagine. I mean, there 385 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 1: truly is. Listen, we're all realist around here. We haven't 386 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: had a lot of buzzes around here in a while. 387 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 1: We had the special season in twenty seventeen when the 388 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: team was ten minutes from a Super Bowl appearance. Other 389 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: than that, it's thirteen losing seasons in the office fourteen. 390 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 1: That's the reality. It has been a tough, times irrelevant franchise. 391 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: At times it's felt dysfunctional. It's been a lot of 392 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: good people. Gus Bradley's as good as man as I've 393 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: ever known. Doug Marone's a good man. People are trying 394 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:12,360 Speaker 1: to get right. Shodkom the owner is a wonderful guy 395 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 1: and he wants to be an owner that wins. So 396 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: no one, no one was trying to get it wrong. 397 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 1: But it's been a tough goal here. It's been good 398 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: people that couldn't have the success they wanted for a 399 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: long time, Mike, and now I think there's there's hope 400 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 1: that's going to change. Now. Look, it's just one coach 401 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: and one quarterback, but it's a coach that everybody talks about, 402 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 1: and it's a quarterback that everybody talks about and presuming 403 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 1: in which we all think going to So yeah, I 404 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: think there's a buzz around here that we haven't had 405 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:40,880 Speaker 1: in our city in a long long time. And that's 406 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 1: really exciting. It really is Trevor Lawrence going to be 407 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: the pick at number one, hopefully from the Jaguars perspective, 408 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: the franchise quarterback. But what's really more interesting from the outside, 409 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 1: because the Lawrence thing seems to have been settled for 410 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: quite a while. The Jaguars have picked twenty five thirty 411 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: three forty five, five, and sixty five. I mean those 412 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: are valuable, valuable picks in this draft. What do you 413 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: think Jacksonville's priorities are gonna be with those four high picks, 414 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: michae I'll give you a quick a quick overview to 415 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: kind of explain that, and then I'll give you any 416 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: answer to your question. Urban Meyer, we've all seen him. 417 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: We saw him down here for all those years in Florida. 418 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 1: He was an hour away from here. You we've all 419 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: watched him in Florida and Ohio State and all over. 420 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: Two things about Urban Myers is it really stood out. 421 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 1: They are really fast and they play really hard. Those 422 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: are two things. Now. I know it's a new level, 423 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: but his teams are really fast everywhere he's been in 424 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 1: the fast teams and they play really hard. The Jaguars 425 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,239 Speaker 1: has not been a fast team, like they have not 426 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: run well there there. If you think about it, you 427 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 1: know that seventeen defense had some fast guys. Telvin spent 428 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: the Miles Jack or fast line acer Jalen Ramsey's really fast, 429 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: but top to bottom it hasn't been a fastball team. 430 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 1: So with that as a backdrop, I think they're gonna 431 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: get they're gonna try and find speed. Now, speed doesn't 432 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: mean a two receiver necessarily. It might mean the fast 433 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,199 Speaker 1: defensive tackle, right, But I think they're going to go 434 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 1: find speed. So I would think at twenty five the positions, 435 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: everybody talks about our defensive iron wide receiver in safety. 436 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: That's if you look at every mock Mike, that's what 437 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: everybody has. The Jaguar's mocking to do either more egg 438 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: to save from TCU, or should borrow more of the 439 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: defensive lineman from Alabama or one of them is a great, 440 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 1: great draft for receivers. So I think to your question, 441 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: look for guys he's done really fast. I don't think 442 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: they're going to address the line of those spots. They've 443 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: got address tight end because there's certainly a dirt there. 444 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 1: But I would think receiver one or two receivers, I 445 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: would think quick d lineman is probably where you're gonna 446 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 1: look at. They've got to find some more fast receivers. 447 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: They've got to find better defensive lineman. I think those 448 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: are the spots that really jump off the page. Trent 449 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: Balkie as the general manager. He has a track record 450 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: with his time running the show in San Francisco. What 451 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: are you learning about his preferences early on in taking 452 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: over the Jackson Jaguars. Yeah, I don't think we've learned 453 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: a lot yet. I think in terms of I think 454 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: it's still got a filter out, Mike. Is Trent making 455 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: these decisions? Is Trent trying to fill the team that 456 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 1: Urban wants him to fill. I think this team is 457 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: going to be built in Urban Myers. It's gonna be 458 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: his identity, Mike. I don't think it's gonna be Trent. 459 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: I think this is gonna be Urban team. Yet, Trent 460 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 1: is the guy charged with building this team in Urban's image. 461 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: So again back to fast guys. A defensive lineman Robertson 462 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 1: Harris is a defensive lineman from the Bear They really 463 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:33,360 Speaker 1: like here. They're going to go to a three four 464 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: it seems like it, so he'd be a three friend, 465 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 1: which they haven't had a running They really like him. 466 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: Malcolm Brown, the defensive the noseguard out of New Orleans 467 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: is the guy they really liked, athletic guy for a 468 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: nosegard position. Marvin Jones Junior, the receiver they signed from 469 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 1: the line, the guy that can really run. So I 470 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: think the Urban meyer fast guys, defensive lineman and fast players. 471 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 1: Shaquille Griffin, the cornerbacks from Seattle can really run. So 472 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: they've found fast guys and defensive line in free agency, 473 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 1: and I think that's the way they're going to do 474 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: in the draft. To Mike, I think it's gonna be 475 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 1: the same thing. So Trent, Trent is a veteran fl 476 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 1: guy and he's got a good eye for talent. But 477 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:10,959 Speaker 1: I think the best thing he brings to the party 478 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: is he and urban have become very close and are 479 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: working very closely together to build this team in urban 480 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 1: Meyer's image, and Mike, that's what I think it'll be. 481 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: I really do all right, So let me ask you this. 482 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 1: Frank Franjie is the voice of the Jacksonville Jaguars. You're 483 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 1: a Florida Gator. You've also been in the media and 484 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: covered things. You have an objective viewpoint, and yet you 485 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: have a familiarity due to your you know, your love 486 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: for the Florida Gators. So I'm wondering this, What is 487 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 1: the biggest area where you think urban Meyer has to 488 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 1: alter his coaching to go from college football and be 489 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: successful to being successful in the National Football League. Two 490 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 1: things Number one. I don't buy the whole Urban can't 491 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 1: handle losing thing, because it's a great question you asked. 492 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: I don't buy that Urban hated losing at the college 493 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,360 Speaker 1: level because the efficance of the losses. Remember, you lose 494 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 1: in college for the most part, your chance to win 495 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 1: the championship is over. If you lose a second time, 496 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 1: your chance to win the championship is over. Well, in 497 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: the NFL, every loss is in his debilitating So I 498 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 1: think Urban understands that he's a really bright guy, and 499 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 1: I think he's really studied that and learned that before 500 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: he ever said yes to the job. So I don't think. 501 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: I think the biggest adjustment an offensive minded college coach 502 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: has to make when he goes to the NFL, NotI 503 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 1: minded guy, an offensive guy, is how do the RPO 504 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: principles and the spread? Because the college spread is very 505 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: different than the pro spread. How does that fit in 506 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: the NFL. That's the biggest adjustment. So he brought in 507 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: defferent level is the coordinator. Brian Schottenheimer's the quarterback. So 508 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 1: it's both have been coordinators, and I think what they're 509 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 1: working on now and Differven spoke of this a little 510 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: bit is how do we take what Urban likes to 511 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: do at the collegiate level, which has spread the field 512 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: horizontally not just vertically, which is a lot of that RPO, 513 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 1: a lot of that shotgun. How do we take that 514 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 1: and NFL eyes it a little bit? If that makes 515 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 1: some sense? And I think that's what they're working on. 516 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: And I think they've they've already come up with a 517 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: with a playbook. I think they've got an idea how 518 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: they're going to do that. So I think the biggest 519 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 1: adjustment is not the players are playing. Losing is losing. 520 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 1: I don't think it's any of that. He's a very 521 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: good coach, he's a very good special team's mind. He's 522 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,880 Speaker 1: a very he's very attentive to detail. His guys played 523 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: very very hard. I don't think any of that's going 524 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,360 Speaker 1: to change, Mike. I think the biggest thing is how 525 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 1: do you adjust what you like to do offensively at 526 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,640 Speaker 1: the college level and take it to the NFL level. 527 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: Because I still think you're going to see some RPO. 528 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: I still think you're gonna see the field spread, Mike, 529 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 1: I really do. The difference is they're gonna do with 530 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: the way AN teams do it. And that's what he 531 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: Darryl Bevil and Brian Schottenheimer are really what you're doing. 532 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,719 Speaker 1: What's a fair goal for the Jacksonville Jaguars in twenty 533 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: twenty one, after this upcoming draft and free agency and 534 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: all of the changes in excitement. Boy, that's a question. 535 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: If it's the number, I don't know the number. They 536 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: won one last year, they lost Stein and a Rota 537 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: and this so can they be a four win team? 538 00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: Can be a seven win team? Can they be better? 539 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: I don't know what I would say though to your 540 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: question is if you did a power poll of one 541 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: through thirty two. And I hate this because I'm the 542 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: voice of the team and I love this team and 543 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: I'm born and raising the city. Man, I watch these fans. 544 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: It's a great fan base, and they it means so 545 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: much to them. But if you do a power Pool 546 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 1: one through thirty two, Let's be honest, the Jags have 547 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: been thirty through thirty most of the times they've been 548 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: here A much of the time. They mean it. That's 549 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,439 Speaker 1: just a reality. Maybe not in the early years, but 550 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 1: if you take away the first five or six years 551 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 1: ninety five through two thousand, they have been in the 552 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,120 Speaker 1: lower fourth at the very least most of the time 553 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: in power pols. I think the Bowl this year is 554 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 1: to leave territory. I think instead of being thirty through 555 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: thirty two, get to where when the power Poles come 556 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 1: out down the road, your middle of the pack, where 557 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: you're a team that people think is still in the 558 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: hunt for a playoff and we're in Novella. I think 559 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 1: that's I think that's a reasonable goal. Without seeing who 560 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: they draft, without seeing how Trevor, you gotta believe they're 561 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 1: draft in Trevor. You gotta believe he's gonna be the 562 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 1: quarterback from day one. I think we all we're all 563 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 1: guessing that. But he's still a rookie quarterback. You know, 564 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning his first year in the league only won 565 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: three games. They were three and thirteen his first year 566 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 1: with the Colts. Andrew Luck's first year in the league, 567 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 1: that team went from winning two games to winning eleven games. 568 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 1: So the precedents all over the place. I would say, 569 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: get to where you're not the irrelevant team that's at 570 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 1: the bottom of all the power polls. Get to where 571 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: you're a middle of the pack team. Does that mean 572 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 1: you win five or six to first year does that 573 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: mean you do better? I think, Mike get they land 574 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: in there. That's a pretty good year for the Jaguars. 575 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 1: I'll end it with this. Trevor Lawrence might be as transcendent, 576 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 1: maybe the most transcendent player the Jaguars have ever had, 577 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: and they're just getting ready to draft him. Do you 578 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: worry about the pressure on him before he ever takes 579 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 1: a snap? You know? I don't, And I'll tell you why. 580 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe I'm being a bit of a 581 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 1: home or when I say it, but I don't worry 582 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: about the pressure. Number One, Mike, this kid had his 583 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 1: whole life. Man, he was the heralded recruit. He lost 584 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,120 Speaker 1: one team in high school in three or four years. 585 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: He lost two games in college in thirty six tries. 586 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: He's known about the pressure. That's a b in today's 587 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 1: day and age, Mike, everybody's got the pressure because there's 588 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: websites in ten thousand cable channels and ten thousand editions 589 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: of Sports Center. And we know more about Trevor Lawrence 590 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: now than we ever knew about Andrew Luck when he 591 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 1: came out, And we knew more about Luck than we 592 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,479 Speaker 1: ever knew about Manning when he came out right and 593 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 1: so more attention. Now, Trevor has been dealing with this 594 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: since he was a kid. I don't worry about the 595 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: pressure affecting him. I think he is He's a very 596 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 1: grounded kid. It seems like I don't know him, but 597 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: he seems very grounded. I don't worry about that. The 598 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 1: big question becomes what we don't know? We know Urban 599 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: Meyer is a good coach. I can't believe for a minute. 600 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: One of the things I like so much Mike Rabel 601 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: and you and I've had this talk online and offline, 602 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 1: is the leader man. Mike Rabel is a leader. Those 603 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: guys respond to him. Your football team is going to 604 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: be good the whole time he's there. There may be 605 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: some better teams than other teams, don't you think, Mikey 606 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: Mike Brabel ouses leadership. Don't you that's that you're you're 607 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: around him all the time. Why think Urban Meyers like 608 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: that he uses leadership? I think Trevor Lawrence is going 609 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: to be very good. I guess would be very surprised 610 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: to beset. The question becomes what do you build around him? 611 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 1: How quickly you can build it around him? How good 612 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: is Balky building this team. How good would they be defensive? 613 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: Those are the questions we don't know the answer to. 614 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: But in terms of pressure and the expectations for Trevor 615 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: in this new regime, Man, I think these guys are 616 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: ready for that. I'm excited. I don't know how good 617 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: they'll be. There's going to be a buzz about the 618 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: Jaguar because of because of the first tape, because of Trevor, 619 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: because of Urban Man. We haven't had that in a while, Mike, 620 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: So I'm excited about I really am. Frank Fraggie, thanks 621 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: so much for the time, Mike, anytime, buddy, thanks for calling. 622 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 1: Take care resented by bar Bureau of Health Plans. We 623 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 1: thank you for listening to the O T team knows 624 00:29:53,680 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 1: house cleanness out. We got tighting burtter running through our face.