Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal call that for me, I'm
Speaker 1: a man, I'm for I've heard so many players say,
Speaker 1: well I want to be happy, you want to be happy?
Speaker 1: For Dake, Edith Steak is that woo woom? And Dan
Speaker 1: and Tie.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to these solid verbal boys and girls. My
Speaker 2: name is Ty Hill Neebrandt. That fine gentleman over there
Speaker 2: is always the one, the only still being comparable. Dan Rubenstein, Sir,
Speaker 2: Welcome back to the show How Goes It?
Speaker 1: Because really, well, this is one of my favorite annual
Speaker 1: episodes that we do. Because what is more college football
Speaker 1: than what we are going to do today? What is
Speaker 1: more uh evident of the insanity that college football brings
Speaker 1: upon people's brains than one listening to a college football
Speaker 1: podcast in early May and two listening to a college
Speaker 1: football podcast in early May about the funniest, weirdest, most
Speaker 1: oddball message board posts. And this is these are message
Speaker 1: boards posts that are relatively recently Yes, costed correct. I
Speaker 1: love this episode so very much. It's the essence of
Speaker 1: the sport. It truly is.
Speaker 2: We did a bonus episode out on our Patreon it
Speaker 2: for ballers dot com. This is not so much a
Speaker 2: plug as it is just a comment, yeah on Thursday
Speaker 2: where you pose the question or somebody posed the question
Speaker 2: asking what is college football made of? Of all the
Speaker 2: other elements of sport in the United States, around the world,
Speaker 2: elements of pop culture, business, you name it, like, what
Speaker 2: are all of the bits and pieces that make college
Speaker 2: football unique? And we ended up having a longer discussion
Speaker 2: about basically this, this subculture of college football fandom that
Speaker 2: dabbles in conspiracies.
Speaker 1: Sure, some more so than others, dip some toes.
Speaker 2: It is all kind of mixed together into this weird
Speaker 2: brew that we imbibe on a nearly weekly basis. Here
Speaker 2: on the Solid Verbal College Football Podcast, today we are
Speaker 2: going to talk through some message board postings that have
Speaker 2: been put out there into the world by our good
Speaker 2: friends over at message board Geniuses. They are on Twitter
Speaker 2: at board Geniuses. We are not taking credit for any
Speaker 2: of their walk We are merely piggybacking on it.
Speaker 1: We are aggregating their aggregation, are we not, and celebrating it?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: So yeah, this is aggregation inception and one of the
Speaker 1: great things we should note at the top here is
Speaker 1: on any college football message board that you will ever
Speaker 1: come across, you will see topics that are like what
Speaker 1: do we think of this defensive coordinator? Or what game
Speaker 1: scares you the most? Or is recruiting gonna take a
Speaker 1: step up in July, you know, like every sort of
Speaker 1: micro issue or topic within team fandom. But then there's
Speaker 1: there are other adjacent boards. And I'm explaining to this
Speaker 1: to I don't know the four of you who have
Speaker 1: never come across a college football message board but are
Speaker 1: listening to a college football podcast. Correct somehow that ven
Speaker 1: diagram and there's just like a tiny little sliver, but
Speaker 1: there's always going to be Like I think they're usually
Speaker 1: called ot boards, right, the off topic boards, and there's
Speaker 1: like politics or family or food, and then there is
Speaker 1: something about college football fandom. And there's so much emotion
Speaker 1: in the connective tissue between fans that people feel comfortable
Speaker 1: bouncing things off of each other, like you feel a
Speaker 1: rapport with this digital community. This is not me looking
Speaker 1: down at all. I actually think it's healthy to find
Speaker 1: community in person, preferable, I would say, but digital community
Speaker 1: can also be quite valuable. And you will just see
Speaker 1: posts like hey, quick question, what does anybody here do
Speaker 1: about like particularly aggressive toe fungus? Like and it's just
Speaker 1: like throwing out personal stuff, thrown out things that you
Speaker 1: wouldn't think that would like come up on a college
Speaker 1: football message board, and then you'll get responses like, hey,
Speaker 1: if you go to Walgreens, look for this and like
Speaker 1: trust it, or like my doctor actually said you need
Speaker 1: to go see a specialist. And like everybody's very earnest
Speaker 1: on these boards and all of these posts that we're
Speaker 1: going to go through college football and otherwise I believe
Speaker 1: actually like come from a pretty earnest place. Because it's April,
Speaker 1: it's March, it's May. There's nobody trolling, nobody who has
Speaker 1: the uh, the wherewithal to say. This is when I
Speaker 1: go on and make something up completely ridiculous in May,
Speaker 1: like the emotions get the best people in September. But
Speaker 1: right now, this is what's really truly weighing on people's minds.
Speaker 2: These are the true believers that are posting in in
Speaker 2: early May, and I love it. Throughout the month of April,
Speaker 2: we've joked on this show more times than I could
Speaker 2: ever count how this is the especially dead period of
Speaker 2: college football, right after the draft, before before we start
Speaker 2: getting into you know, scheduled previews and the summer months
Speaker 2: when things really start to pick up. Right about now
Speaker 2: is that soft underbelly of college football content where frankly
Speaker 2: it's a show like this or an interview or nothing
Speaker 2: else because there just isn't news. Thankfully, it's good to
Speaker 2: get a little bit of a reprieve from the news.
Speaker 2: It feels like every time we open up our phones
Speaker 2: these days, there is something new that maybe troubles us
Speaker 2: on the college football front, be it roster construction in
Speaker 2: one place, or rules in another, lawsuits, lawsuits.
Speaker 1: The purpose of.
Speaker 2: Today is to dabble in none of that stuff, well,
Speaker 2: tangentially perhaps, Yeah, of course, But we're going to go
Speaker 2: through some of these again message board postings that have
Speaker 2: been brought to light by our good friends over at
Speaker 2: board Geniuses. Go and check them out on Twitter. Okay,
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Speaker 2: get add free episodes, bonus content, access to our community
Speaker 2: out on Discord, and much much more. Dan, Yes, shall
Speaker 2: we dive in? So you're telling me there's a chance, Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 2: all right, Yes, what are we hiding? What are we hiding?
Speaker 2: A Florida fan wants to know what Billy Napier is hiding.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, was rewatching Ted Lasso and got to the
Speaker 2: episode where he lets the fans start attending practice after
Speaker 2: two seasons of hiding practices, And I admit, he's not
Speaker 2: the only coach. What does Billy think he's gaining? To
Speaker 2: say that we've been able to surprise people with our
Speaker 2: scheme or game plan is laughable. Why can't you He's
Speaker 2: speaking directly to I guess a Florida Beat reporter here.
Speaker 2: Why can't you or the rest of us watch a
Speaker 2: practice and not just ten minutes of nothing? Does he
Speaker 2: think he can lose worse than he has?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: So the tension here is obviously between Florida fans and
Speaker 2: Billy Napier and no secret as to why billiy Napier
Speaker 2: is going to start the twenty twenty four campaign as
Speaker 2: one of the one of the most prominent coaches on
Speaker 2: the hottest of seats and to boot, Florida has a
Speaker 2: particularly brutal schedule. It is tough anyway you shake it.
Speaker 2: I called it out a couple days ago, made a
Speaker 2: video that I posted online. But Florida opens its season
Speaker 2: at home against the Miami Hurricanes, so in state rivalry
Speaker 2: right out of the shoot. We went through the schedule
Speaker 2: briefly before, and the way this thing is constructed, you
Speaker 2: got to get your wins early. If you want to
Speaker 2: go to a bawl, you gotta get your wins early
Speaker 2: because it's going to toughen up a little bit later
Speaker 2: on in the season. So Florida, I feel like, is
Speaker 2: a great candidate for wild conspiracy theories as it relates
Speaker 2: to Billy Napier in college football? What is he hiding?
Speaker 2: Dan Rubinstein?
Speaker 1: What's the old line, If you're gonna be dumb, you
Speaker 1: better be tough, right like the old adage, like if
Speaker 1: you're going to be bad, it's tough to be secretive, right,
Speaker 1: Like you need to sort of give people something. You give,
Speaker 1: got to give people more sos. I don't think practices
Speaker 1: should be open, like in a world, in a world
Speaker 1: that you do have, you know, eyes everywhere. I understand
Speaker 1: why people want to be secretive, especially given what's on
Speaker 1: the line in major sec play, Like you don't want
Speaker 1: to give too money things away, You don't you know
Speaker 1: who's starting at left guard? Perhaps that doesn't matter. But
Speaker 1: I understand from Billion Napier's perspective why you want to
Speaker 1: keep things secretive. I understand why you're if you're a
Speaker 1: Florida fan, you are starved for something positive, while if
Speaker 1: you are starved for a morsel of a highlight from practice,
Speaker 1: you know, a receiver making a one hand Trey Wilson
Speaker 1: making a one handed grab, or something that even the
Speaker 1: team would put out. And so that's the sort of
Speaker 1: issue that I get that if your team is disappointing,
Speaker 1: you better go into overdrive to give people. You don't
Speaker 1: need to get people fluff for positivity, but a little
Speaker 1: bit of access to get people excited and energized and
Speaker 1: electrified during the off season. And so I enjoy the
Speaker 1: Ted last So I didn't watch the final season of
Speaker 1: Ted Lasso, by the way, so I don't know how
Speaker 1: secretive last I was with his practices.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well Last last season is a separate conversation from yeah,
Speaker 2: the first two. But I get where fans are coming from.
Speaker 2: I mean, you want something positive, you want momentum that
Speaker 2: you can build on in the off season. I think
Speaker 2: what we saw a DJ Lagway was very promising right
Speaker 2: in the spring game that gave Florida some hope, some momentum,
Speaker 2: some feeling of momentum. But the schedule stands in the way.
Speaker 2: And look, there seems to be something of a concern
Speaker 2: as to what Florida's offense is going to look like
Speaker 2: this season. And that's not to say that, you know,
Speaker 2: they don't have guys who can play quarterback thenk Graham
Speaker 2: Mertz last year was fine. Maybe we'll see DJ Lagway
Speaker 2: a little bit here and there. Who knows. There are
Speaker 2: some losses, obviously we've talked about them as well. But
Speaker 2: as things stand right now, even with a lot of
Speaker 2: the negative press that I know Florida people have talked
Speaker 2: about in the off season, still only a two point
Speaker 2: dog at home to open up the season against the
Speaker 2: Miami Hurricanes in State Ryle the Sunshine Showdown, whatever it's called. Right,
Speaker 2: So Vegas is not looking down its nose too much
Speaker 2: at the Florida Gators, cause I think Miami should be
Speaker 2: pretty good. Sure whatever, here's my question for you. Sorry,
Speaker 2: I know that was very dismissive of what you said,
Speaker 2: which was all true. Do you consume Notre Dame produced
Speaker 2: content like content schools are now pretty thorough about like
Speaker 2: behind the scenes stuff and here's a day in the
Speaker 2: life of so and so on the team, like here's
Speaker 2: a day in the life of Benjamin Morrison or whatever.
Speaker 2: And there is that opportunity if you're a diehard fan,
Speaker 2: to go inside the program via video and social media whatever.
Speaker 2: And some schools, I know Clemson is big on this.
Speaker 2: Schools are doing this.
Speaker 1: Now like full length like Oregon. Oregon's very big on it,
Speaker 1: but they do. I honestly have no idea what Orgon
Speaker 1: does in terms of longer form stuff, but there are
Speaker 1: some schools that will do like a twenty four minute episode,
Speaker 1: and that's why I saw I remember seeing Clemson doing
Speaker 1: this where it's like they're producing like their own version
Speaker 1: of Hard Knocks, right, It's like a highly produced thing,
Speaker 1: and it is red meat for the fans who want
Speaker 1: more access, who want more of a look in. I
Speaker 1: have no idea if Notre Dame does that. I have
Speaker 1: no idea if you consume that. I like Organs like,
Speaker 1: I think they all.
Speaker 2: Do it to some extent, and I can only take
Speaker 2: it in doses because there's only some level of sunshine
Speaker 2: pumping that's tolerable to me. Sure, and it's not just
Speaker 2: Notre Dame stuff that I'll watch. I'll watch Penn State stuff.
Speaker 2: I'll watch other teams. We have been featured many times
Speaker 2: over in those types of videos.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 2: We were in the Texas A and M one last year.
Speaker 2: I think when they got rid of Jimbo and decided
Speaker 2: they were going to look for a new coach. Maybe
Speaker 2: it was after they hired Mike Elko. Regardless, you siate
Speaker 2: the free.
Speaker 1: Presses Penn State one. I think Penn State used my
Speaker 1: voice or something doubting them and yep, yep, yep, yep.
Speaker 1: Then they were disappointing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've been in a bunch of them over the years,
Speaker 2: so we've watched plenty of them.
Speaker 1: Feel free. By the way, here's my express verbal permission.
Speaker 1: You can use our voices in any of those if
Speaker 1: we're high on your team, if we're low on your team,
Speaker 1: do whatever you gotta do.
Speaker 2: Totally cool, We're it's totally totally fine for us. I
Speaker 2: can only take the school produced stuff in doses. Yeah, same,
Speaker 2: not against it. And where are we going.
Speaker 1: With this again?
Speaker 2: What was the pointed that?
Speaker 1: Oh, it's just that, like if Florida is being so
Speaker 1: secretive right that you have to go above and beyond
Speaker 1: to at least give the diehards some You're not going
Speaker 1: to let them into practice or whatever, but like you
Speaker 1: got to, you got to open up the content kimono
Speaker 1: a little bit to get these people excited coming off
Speaker 1: of a season that was somewhat disappointing, and there's a
Speaker 1: lot of doubts heading into this season, especially considering the
Speaker 1: Florida schedule. So that's all. And I think Oregon. I've
Speaker 1: seen some of the Oregon stuff they do with like
Speaker 1: a two minute recap, like a cinematic recap during the
Speaker 1: season that's very well done, But like all of the
Speaker 1: behind the scenes stuff, if it's longer than two or
Speaker 1: three minutes, I know, I get kind of lost.
Speaker 2: Where do you want to go next? You want to
Speaker 2: pick one out out of the dock?
Speaker 1: Here? Dan sure? If Oklahoma lands, this is Pickleman Pickleman's cafe.
Speaker 1: If we Oklahoma land, Dominic Williams TCU defensive line transfer,
Speaker 1: I'll lack white dog bleep, like I guess from step Brothers. Okay,
Speaker 1: my question to you is not react to this or
Speaker 1: I don't. I have no idea. If there was a
Speaker 1: follow up about this gentleman or lady licking dog excrement
Speaker 1: based on a transfer, a promising defensive line transfer. My
Speaker 1: question to you is, have you ever made this kind
Speaker 1: of bet to do something disgusting based on sports? Is
Speaker 1: there something you'd be willing to do that would be
Speaker 1: a a worthwhile trade off for Notre Dame or Penn
Speaker 1: State doing something like a recruit like a giant recruiting
Speaker 1: win or a giant like in season win or playoff
Speaker 1: birth like. Is there anything that compels you or maybe
Speaker 1: when you were nineteen or something.
Speaker 2: First off, I believe Oklahoma got the guy.
Speaker 1: That he did. That's what I'm saying. Did he follow
Speaker 1: he or she followed through?
Speaker 2: So I don't know if there's been a follow up
Speaker 2: post to it. Hopefully boor geniuses can point us in
Speaker 2: the right direction there. I hope this gentleman's okay. If
Speaker 2: he did follow through with that bet, it's a bit disgusting.
Speaker 2: I've not really been much for the preposterous bet outside
Speaker 2: of our show. Outside of our show, you know now
Speaker 2: you had the bet, what was it.
Speaker 1: Two years ago?
Speaker 2: I forget what it was. You did the face panting
Speaker 2: for LSU.
Speaker 1: Which LSU Auburn. Yeah, Tiger was.
Speaker 2: Tremendous and is still featured out there on many of
Speaker 2: our social media accounts. You can go find it anywhere
Speaker 2: you could find this solid verbal. I've thought about this.
Speaker 2: I feel like in the end, I'm too much of
Speaker 2: a chicken.
Speaker 1: This could be a good kind of inflection point because
Speaker 1: what happens is okay, So let's say this person doesn't
Speaker 1: renege on this offer to lick dog droppings whatever based
Speaker 1: on a portal commitment. And if this person is married
Speaker 1: and a spouse finds out that they are licking white dog,
Speaker 1: oh okay, okay, no, no, I'm like us, like Steve,
Speaker 1: what did you do today? And you post you posted
Speaker 1: it where like maybe that's like the rock bottom that
Speaker 1: some people need when they're doing that online. So I
Speaker 1: appreciate that. Next one, this is from Buck fifty two
Speaker 1: Underscore thirty Husker online, So conspiracy theory here. Oh dash
Speaker 1: dash A Big ten tells trev Alberts to take the
Speaker 1: text A and M. I add a D job and
Speaker 1: help the program to and help lead the program to
Speaker 1: the Big ten. Text A and M to the Big
Speaker 1: ten leadership already be on board with this action, then
Speaker 1: the Big Ten tells Trev. If he gets the job done,
Speaker 1: he will be the next commissioner of the Big Ten.
Speaker 1: That being said, Texas A and M and Notre Dame
Speaker 1: would be mega great news for the Big Ten. And
Speaker 1: oh and get our AAU membership back before we are
Speaker 1: booted back to the Big twelve or the MAC or
Speaker 1: the Mountain West or some other conference like that.
Speaker 2: Whoa, there's a lot going on here. Yeah, this is
Speaker 2: next level.
Speaker 1: So Trev Alberts as a Big Ten mole at Texas
Speaker 1: A and M to get Texas A and M out
Speaker 1: of the SEC to the Big Ten. This is on
Speaker 1: a Nebraska board.
Speaker 2: By the way, Texas A and M just joined the
Speaker 2: SEC not that long ago, right, This isn't like they've
Speaker 2: been in the conference.
Speaker 1: Fourteen years, thirteen years.
Speaker 2: It's been I know, but it's not been fifty years,
Speaker 2: I know. So he's saying, all right, so Trev's going
Speaker 2: to go to the take the A and M ad job,
Speaker 2: going to be the mole, going to move them over
Speaker 2: to the Big Ten. And then here's the problem with this.
Speaker 2: Trev Alberts has no say in whether or not a
Speaker 2: team leaves conferences. He might have input, but Ultimately, that's
Speaker 2: a president's decision. Right, So, unless Trev Alberts is playing
Speaker 2: some sort of game of thrones and will ascend to leadership,
Speaker 2: true leadership of Texas A and M.
Speaker 1: I'm not asking for a counterpoint to this insane post.
Speaker 1: I just want your gut reaction.
Speaker 2: I mean, I love the energy of it, of course,
Speaker 2: as I do most conspiracy theories, most of the non
Speaker 2: problematic ones. Anyway.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but uh, would you like Texas A and M
Speaker 1: in the Big Ten? Would they be an asset to
Speaker 1: the Big Ten? Exactly? Exactly right, Ty, Texas A and
Speaker 1: M and Notre Dame who are playing each other this year, right,
Speaker 1: first week of the season. Yeah, first week of the season.
Speaker 1: Texas A and M and Notre Dame bringing Texas, the
Speaker 1: state of Texas, bringing the South Ish into the Big Ten?
Speaker 1: Why not? Why not? I don't think it's Trev Alberts
Speaker 1: doing it. You said, But nothing matters, Ty, nothing matters.
Speaker 1: Everything is chaos. Texas A and M to the Big Ten.
Speaker 1: I'm ready.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, if Oregon and Washington and UCLA and
Speaker 2: USC can go to the Big ten, clearly, geographic footprint matters,
Speaker 2: not doesn't matter where you're located. The Big Ten's probably
Speaker 2: interested the SEC, if only because of its name, right,
Speaker 2: maybe anchored a bit more to teams in the general
Speaker 2: Southeast region, but even that has kind of expanded as
Speaker 2: time has gone on. It doesn't like I understand that
Speaker 2: this is all being driven by money. For the life
Speaker 2: of me, I still can't get past the whole geography thing.
Speaker 2: And I know college football has moved past it, I
Speaker 2: have not. It still feels really weird to me. It's
Speaker 2: going to feel really weird this year when O'regon and
Speaker 2: Washington are playing in the Big Ten. I'm just not
Speaker 2: going to be able to get over it. We've used
Speaker 2: the analogy before, but it's like when teams Major League
Speaker 2: Baseball teams switch switch leagues. Yeah, and I've still not
Speaker 2: figured out who's where. I've been a baseball fan my
Speaker 2: entire life. It still confuses me to this day. So
Speaker 2: you know, I guess college football has gotten to the
Speaker 2: point where they're living in a post geography conference world.
Speaker 2: But for me, no, I we can't. We can't do this.
Speaker 2: We can't. I appreciate the I appreciate the energy here,
Speaker 2: but no.
Speaker 1: It's a little like if the Kansas City Royals announced
Speaker 1: they were joining the KBOY Korean Baseball League. Weere like
Speaker 1: it just actually makes more sense for us at this point.
Speaker 1: They got a great deal, a sweetheart deal to join
Speaker 1: the KBO. Uh. You know, South Korea is expanding to
Speaker 1: the Midwestern footprint.
Speaker 2: But here, see, here's where they get you with off
Speaker 2: the wall ideas like this. Yeah, there is a shred
Speaker 2: of truth in it, and that is that Notre Dame
Speaker 2: would be make a great news for the Big Ten. Yeah,
Speaker 2: of course it would be right. People have been saying
Speaker 2: that for decades, myself included, So at least it's grounded
Speaker 2: on that front. Although I don't know if A and
Speaker 2: M and A and M Notre Dame are going to
Speaker 2: be the targets the next targets for the Big Ten.
Speaker 2: It could be Florida State Notre Dame.
Speaker 1: If Notre Dame were to join the Big Ten. At
Speaker 1: that point, who becomes the most self important fan base?
Speaker 1: Is it Notre Dames or Michigan's Like, who is the
Speaker 1: alpha in that conversation within the Big Ten, regardless of winning?
Speaker 1: Just DNA wise, which fan base do you think is
Speaker 1: the alpha in that conversation. I'm closer to this than
Speaker 1: I am I think it's still Michigan. You think it's
Speaker 1: still Michigan? Do I Do you think Notre Dame has
Speaker 1: been humbled enough that there's a faction of the fan
Speaker 1: base that is just sort of like, let's do something
Speaker 1: before we go full Michigan.
Speaker 2: You think that's I mean, it's just been forever since
Speaker 2: Noname really wants something, honest.
Speaker 1: So if we're still talking about the only meaningful independent
Speaker 1: program in America, apologies to you know, yukon UMass recent ones.
Speaker 2: I'm biased. Don't ask me. I can't in good faith
Speaker 2: say it's Notre Dame over Michigan because I've read the
Speaker 2: Michigan emails. I've been I've taken the mission arrows. For me,
Speaker 2: it's the answers Michigan fair enough.
Speaker 1: The other thing I enjoyed about this specific post the
Speaker 1: second line. Then the Big Ten tells Trev Alberts, if
Speaker 1: he gets the job done, he will be the next
Speaker 1: commissioner of the Big Ten. Okay, so when you unpack this,
Speaker 1: the Big Ten could just hire Trev Alberts to be
Speaker 1: commissioner if they really wanted. Also, if the Big Ten
Speaker 1: really wanted Texas, A and M, then they could invite Texas,
Speaker 1: A and M. Now, obviously you got a back channel
Speaker 1: at whatever, and you have to make an appeal. You
Speaker 1: have to make it more appealing than what the SEC
Speaker 1: is offering. But it's not like the one man who
Speaker 1: controls this. Recent Nebraska Athletic director trev Alberts one thing.
Speaker 2: I've been thinking a little bit about lately, just because
Speaker 2: it seems as if there's this turf war over the
Speaker 2: last few seasons between the Big Ten and the SEC,
Speaker 2: both of which trying to wield their influence, whether to
Speaker 2: shape the playoff or the way that revenue is distributed, nil,
Speaker 2: you name it. These are really the two top dogs
Speaker 2: in college football. This is no secret to anybody listening
Speaker 2: to this. Of course, I wonder how far we are
Speaker 2: away from some true turf war style stuff, where like
Speaker 2: Tony Pettiti goes to try and steal Missouri, or Greg
Speaker 2: Sankee decides he wants to try and pick someone off
Speaker 2: from within the Big Ten and bring them down, Like,
Speaker 2: I don't know who those targets would be, what that
Speaker 2: would look like. I remember around the time that all
Speaker 2: the Michigan controversy was circulating earlier, well I guess earlier
Speaker 2: last season whenever it came out. I remember there were
Speaker 2: some folks online talking like Michigan's going to join the SEC,
Speaker 2: like that type of logic, right, playing into what's already
Speaker 2: an ongoing battle between these two conferences. Maybe the next
Speaker 2: front for the war is a school, like a Florida
Speaker 2: State or a Notre Dame. I can't imagine Notre Dame
Speaker 2: joined the SEC, but okay, maybe it's something else altogether.
Speaker 2: But I feel like that's where the battle goes next.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's an SEC team jumping to
Speaker 1: the Big Ten or vice versa, but certainly, with the
Speaker 1: ACC's current affiliation with ESPN, it feels as if it
Speaker 1: would be pretty major if the Big Ten were to
Speaker 1: somehow aggressively go after an ACC team. So, whether it's
Speaker 1: you know, North Carolina, Florida State, Clemson, whoever. Right, that's
Speaker 1: the sort of cold war right now. Well, and you.
Speaker 2: Know, we talk a lot about the Big Ten the SEC.
Speaker 2: Of course, I think that masks the fact that the
Speaker 2: true turf war is between Fox and ESPN.
Speaker 1: Correct, Oh, absolutely, it is right.
Speaker 2: It's not a conference thing as much as it is
Speaker 2: a bank rolling thing behind the scenes in the networks,
Speaker 2: which again, no secret to the people listening at home,
Speaker 2: but that's just where we're at.
Speaker 1: Here we go this.
Speaker 2: One out on our good friends over at USC football
Speaker 2: dot com.
Speaker 1: This is so good. There's so much here that I've
Speaker 1: seen continue.
Speaker 2: How does Oregon keep getting away with this? They literally
Speaker 2: have one hundred players. The Big Ten needs to step
Speaker 2: in because this is crazy. No one has ever, no
Speaker 2: one has even hit the portal. It's unfair to every
Speaker 2: other team playing. Forget the aspect of scholarships. Why are
Speaker 2: these kids going for this without leaving. They all must
Speaker 2: be losers, losers with the apostrophe in the wrong place
Speaker 2: of course, not even needed here. Really, they almost be
Speaker 2: losers who have no plans of going to the NFL. Dan,
Speaker 2: how is Oregon getting away with this? It does feel
Speaker 2: like they have a thousand players.
Speaker 1: They do have many players. I have no idea. They
Speaker 1: are obviously appealing to people. People want to play for
Speaker 1: Dan Lanning and be in Eugene, Oregon and play for
Speaker 1: that program. I know that they're here's what I've heard
Speaker 1: about Oregon. I've heard that they're so, they're they're collective,
Speaker 1: they're whatever. Their NL situation is called Division Street, and
Speaker 1: it's all Division Street. Okay, that like everything is under
Speaker 1: one roof. Everybody seems to be aligned, and it's like
Speaker 1: an actual business. It's an actual like they have a
Speaker 1: roster of employees and they have people, marketing people and
Speaker 1: branding people whatever. Like it's it's not slap de tie.
Speaker 1: And so what I think is the case with a
Speaker 1: number of places. I know, Ohio States obviously has come
Speaker 1: a long way recently. I know, let's see, I think
Speaker 1: Texas Louisville's is pretty big, Like there are the number
Speaker 1: of schools and people that are more plugged into this
Speaker 1: obviously know much more than I would. But from everything
Speaker 1: I've heard, it's like there's lawyers, there's like there's an
Speaker 1: actual structure to this nil situation at Oregon. And so
Speaker 1: there are a number of places that like are raising money,
Speaker 1: but there's like warring collectives and collapsing collectives, and I
Speaker 1: know USC has a couple of them at least, and
Speaker 1: USC fans right now, whether it's because of portal, whether
Speaker 1: it's because of recruiting, they don't they can't imagine a
Speaker 1: world in which Oregon, year over year over year over
Speaker 1: year is out recruiting USC because in the fans minds
Speaker 1: at USC, Like Oregon is just Phil Knight and they're
Speaker 1: just you know, dropping bags at a helicopters on recruits
Speaker 1: front door steps and everything and like, but the academics
Speaker 1: at US, but the degree the connections at US. Okay,
Speaker 1: there's there's a lot of the USC fans just through
Speaker 1: like the message board geniuses account that I've seen, Like
Speaker 1: there's a lot on USC boards that people are just
Speaker 1: down bad. They're down bad watching Oregon recruit like this.
Speaker 1: And I'll be the first one to tell you it's
Speaker 1: all well and good to be excited in May tie.
Speaker 1: Yet they just lost to Washington three times in two years.
Speaker 1: And so Oregon has the roster it seems to break
Speaker 1: through this year and they're building the depth that I
Speaker 1: think they'll need if they are indeed a playoff caliber
Speaker 1: team to win two, three, four game whatever it takes
Speaker 1: in the College Football Playoff. They're building that depth. But
Speaker 1: they're still Dan Lanning's still young, he's still only been
Speaker 1: a head coach for a couple of years. And USC
Speaker 1: fans what it was, it was the same line as
Speaker 1: Jesse from breaking but we can't keep getting away with this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they are in that headspace right now, they're losing
Speaker 1: their minds. I think Colorado fans are losing their minds
Speaker 1: a little bit with Oregon USC fan like that is,
Speaker 1: that is a thing, and we'll see how you know,
Speaker 1: new legislation and you know, schools taking paying players in
Speaker 1: house and everything and sharing TV revenue, what role of
Speaker 1: that plays. But right now, it seems Oregon's in a
Speaker 1: good place. The money is there, the aggression on the
Speaker 1: recruiting and portal trail is there, and they seem to
Speaker 1: be in the heads of a lot of these West
Speaker 1: Coast programs. We've decided, by the way, we're going to
Speaker 1: that game on November the second, Oregon Michigan. Oregon Michigan. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I can't wait.
Speaker 2: November the second. We're going to go Dan Arbor go
Speaker 2: to that.
Speaker 1: Can't wait.
Speaker 2: We'll figure it out later what that means for a
Speaker 2: weekly recap episodes and whatnot. But it's been too long
Speaker 2: since we were at a big game. We got to
Speaker 2: make sure we yeah, we gotta go. Got to make
Speaker 2: sure we get out and uh and enjoy. So if
Speaker 2: you'd be in town, let us know otherwise. Yeah, how
Speaker 2: do they keep getting away with it? I mean, look,
Speaker 2: they're an IT program right now. They've got money, they've
Speaker 2: got an excitable young coach, They've clearly got a ton
Speaker 2: of talent. They're loaded to the teeth with talent. And
Speaker 2: any school that's able to build depth in twenty twenty
Speaker 2: four is like a really big deal, especially if you
Speaker 2: are playing on the level of an Oregon, of a
Speaker 2: Penn State, of a Notre Dame, of an Alabama. You know,
Speaker 2: just throwing out examples of teams that are probably in
Speaker 2: that playoff conversation. If you don't have that depth, you're
Speaker 2: kind of screwed. The season is going to be longer.
Speaker 2: It's harder than ever to build that depth because of
Speaker 2: the portal, Oregans found a way to do it, either
Speaker 2: via the NIL set up or otherwise. And so, you know,
Speaker 2: at least to that point, I understand why I was
Speaker 2: driving other programs crazy. I think I'd probably feel the
Speaker 2: same if I root for a rival school.
Speaker 1: So this past weekend it was Derek Harmon from Michigan
Speaker 1: State the defensive tackle. So Michigan State lost. I think
Speaker 1: it's Simeon Barrow to Miami, who was promising and a
Speaker 1: good size deal, and Derek Harmon to Oregon who had
Speaker 1: visited Oregon before when he entered and then went back
Speaker 1: into the portal. In December, Oregon had a commitment from
Speaker 1: a top kid in southern California from modern day, which
Speaker 1: has long been a USC feeder program. And then a
Speaker 1: kid who also from southern California who went to Alabama
Speaker 1: and then entered the portal after spring and is headed
Speaker 1: to Oregon. And so yeah, they are absolutely loading up,
Speaker 1: and it's what it is, and this is what we know.
Speaker 1: Ty loading up on the recruiting trail is great, but
Speaker 1: there's the cautionary tales right that, whether it's USC with
Speaker 1: Lane Kiff and Steve Sarkisian, whether it's Texas A and
Speaker 1: M recently, whether it's whoever tennessee that like you start
Speaker 1: stringing together those top classes, but without stringing together playoff berths,
Speaker 1: Like it is fair right now to have enormous expectations
Speaker 1: for Oregon and if they fall short, if they're going
Speaker 1: nine to three, ten and two with this kind of
Speaker 1: endit sure, with this kind of focus, with this kind
Speaker 1: of attention, those are huge disappointments. That's on Dan Lanning,
Speaker 1: that's on the you know, the front office whatever. So
Speaker 1: with great sort of off season accomplishment should come great expectations,
Speaker 1: and so they should be held to an enormously high
Speaker 1: standard for building a roster like this.
Speaker 2: Let's go to Michigan. Let's I think the Michigan legislature
Speaker 2: needs to seriously think of using some of the rainy
Speaker 2: day funds slash surplus tax revenue to give to Michigan
Speaker 2: and Michigan State for nil money. It's not good for
Speaker 2: state economy when both programs are struggling, you lose tourism revenue.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. Let me ask you this, two poverty programs,
Speaker 1: Michigan and Michigan State.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is obviously a horrible idea. I appreciate the
Speaker 2: spirit of it. This is a terrible idea.
Speaker 1: Yeah. That said, if you put this on.
Speaker 2: A ballot in the great State of Michigan, went this
Speaker 2: November referendum, can we give some percentage of state tax
Speaker 2: revenue to these two schools?
Speaker 1: So at the in this very moment, schools are not
Speaker 1: allowed to pay players. Right that you have affiliated anil situations,
Speaker 1: and so you're going to go above the school. Above
Speaker 1: the school stay com funded, federally funded institutions and appropriate
Speaker 1: government funds. That's for this. I love that.
Speaker 2: I love the idea. I love the idea. This is
Speaker 2: creative if nothing more. Yeah, So, if we put this
Speaker 2: on a ballot, and I want to hear from the
Speaker 2: forballer hood, would it win, would it lose? What would
Speaker 2: the split be of the final tally, I e. What
Speaker 2: percentage of people would vote yes.
Speaker 1: I don't think it would pass. I'm not saying it
Speaker 1: would pass. It's not legal. Let's be clear, it's not legal.
Speaker 2: But if you put this on about what percentage of
Speaker 2: people in Michigan vote yes.
Speaker 1: I don't think it means enough in state. I think
Speaker 1: if you maybe went to a couple sec states it
Speaker 1: just means more areas, then perhaps it would be a
Speaker 1: little bit more successful. But I don't think there are
Speaker 1: enough people within the state of Michigan who look around
Speaker 1: them and say, we could use a little bit less
Speaker 1: on our roads and our schools and our emergency services
Speaker 1: so that Michigan and Michigan State could retain their roster
Speaker 1: via nil. I don't think it would mean enough.
Speaker 2: Look, you say that, yeah, but it's like every other
Speaker 2: year that somebody tries to push through a publicly funded
Speaker 2: stadium for a pro team. That's true, all right, And
Speaker 2: in those cases, in the cases of Olympic stadium builds
Speaker 2: or any of that stuff, the return on investment is
Speaker 2: not usually there, not by a long shot, but a
Speaker 2: time and again, it is still sold to the general
Speaker 2: populace is something that would be good for them, for
Speaker 2: the local economy, for jobs, for whatever. Data doesn't really
Speaker 2: suggest that.
Speaker 1: But okay, I was going to say, at least, like
Speaker 1: the selling point with a stadium, we're revitalizing downtown and
Speaker 1: it's a whole experience. But like keeping a linebacker in
Speaker 1: town who might be getting portal interest from bigger schools,
Speaker 1: you know, Michigan State would be losing a defensive lineman
Speaker 1: again to like Oregon or Miami. Like, there's not a
Speaker 1: lot of evidence that that is going to stimulate the
Speaker 1: East Lansing economy.
Speaker 2: Would this get to twenty percent? Would twenty percent of
Speaker 2: the voting public vote for this.
Speaker 1: No, just because I don't think enough of the voting
Speaker 1: public understands anil and like, I just don't think it's
Speaker 1: fifteen percent fifteen percent vote I think it would. I
Speaker 1: have no idea seven percent. I will say seventy percent
Speaker 1: under ten. Well, so you have to take the people
Speaker 1: that understand NIL, understand collectives understand you know where the
Speaker 1: sport is right now. So you have whatever percentage of
Speaker 1: fans that is, and then you have to find the
Speaker 1: percentage of those people who say, yes, we have reached
Speaker 1: this point where we no longer have confidence in donors
Speaker 1: and collectives whatever to do this. So this is the
Speaker 1: last resort answer. And also, like, is their enthusiasm in
Speaker 1: the Michigan fan base right now for this after a
Speaker 1: national championship, Like, so you're already probably losing a bunch
Speaker 1: of Michigan people. You're already probably losing a bunch of
Speaker 1: Michigan people who think NIL stuff is unbecoming and wrong
Speaker 1: for the sport. And you know, the capital are right
Speaker 1: way of doing things. So you're losing a ton of
Speaker 1: Michigan people already, Michigan State people, this is a fan base.
Speaker 1: They've been to the playoff, didn't score, but been to
Speaker 1: the playoff. That's correct, I fact checked me on that time.
Speaker 1: But yes, you have Michigan State people who now are
Speaker 1: looking at the success of Michigan, who are looking at
Speaker 1: the continued growth of Ohio State, who are feeling lost
Speaker 1: in the sea of college football and in the big ten.
Speaker 2: Man, you can get ten percent of the people to
Speaker 2: vote for anything. I'll go, well, then.
Speaker 1: You're talking about you also have people voters in Michigan
Speaker 1: who went to neither school and don't care about football
Speaker 1: or Michigan or Michigan State at all.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you can get ten percent to vote for anything.
Speaker 2: You need clever marketing and clever campaigning. You can get
Speaker 2: ten percent of people to vote for anything. Okay, So
Speaker 2: I guess my specific question the for baller hood over
Speaker 2: under ten percent? If you actually put this on a
Speaker 2: ballot come November you're saying under I'll say, I mean
Speaker 2: it might just get the ten percent, but I'm saying
Speaker 2: over right. Okay, great question though, thank you. Okay, where
Speaker 2: we want to go next? Here?
Speaker 1: Let me see, do you want to go to Taylor Swift?
Speaker 1: Do you want to go to Swingers? Where are we going?
Speaker 1: Let's do Let's do Colorado? Okay, Okay, now in my
Speaker 1: nobuff November and May.
Speaker 2: Yeah, full disclosure, Dan is on a bit of a
Speaker 2: Colorado sabbatical at present.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm on a diet.
Speaker 2: You're taking the month of May off from Colorado football.
Speaker 2: From Dion Sanders from coach prime. Believe me, there will
Speaker 2: be plenty of opportunity the rest of the year to
Speaker 2: catch up whatever you miss. But for the purposes of
Speaker 2: this episode, just because we like this post from Buff
Speaker 2: Stampede s two s Buff says, I hate to say
Speaker 2: this because their fan base is filled with d bags,
Speaker 2: but I feel like we might be in a similar
Speaker 2: situation to twenty twenty two TCU. Those fans talked like
Speaker 2: they were Alabama rolling into Boulder on Opening Night. They
Speaker 2: knew something that nobody else really knew, and everybody was
Speaker 2: judging them off their previous season. We know we have
Speaker 2: quality and depth, do they? Not sure? But nobody else
Speaker 2: is paying attention. Also probably not true. We are absolutely
Speaker 2: going to surprise people this year. Okay, that is the
Speaker 2: full post. Dan, Okay, So should we let's talk about
Speaker 2: the TCU.
Speaker 1: Element of this, Yes?
Speaker 2: Please?
Speaker 1: Okay? Do we think so TCU coming off of twenty
Speaker 1: twenty one in this instant correct? So new coach, new
Speaker 1: coach and Sunny Dyke's who had I think success at
Speaker 1: SMU against TCU TCU in twenty twenty one? Okay, So
Speaker 1: they go five and seven. Gary Patterson leaves a few
Speaker 1: games into the season, leaving them with an interim situation.
Speaker 1: TCU loses to Iowa State forty eight fourteen to end
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty one season. They lose to Oklahoma State
Speaker 1: on the road. Two weeks before that, sixty three to seventeen,
Speaker 1: they beat Baylor. That was like a Chandler Morris game.
Speaker 1: I want to say, he comes in in relief beat Baylor,
Speaker 1: who was at the time number twelve in the country.
Speaker 1: There is not a single reasonable TCU fan who entered
Speaker 1: into the twenty twenty two season feeling good, real good,
Speaker 1: real confident. Everybody was surprised at TCU less so as
Speaker 1: the season went on, less so as they saw Max
Speaker 1: Duggan become an absolute warrior for the Frogs. But nobody
Speaker 1: went into that Colorado game. Tc wins again thirty eight
Speaker 1: thirteen and Chandler Morris gets hurt in that game. So
Speaker 1: nobody went into that season thinking Chandler Moore Trus is
Speaker 1: our guy and was proven right because he started the
Speaker 1: season as the starter in twenty twenty two. So I
Speaker 1: got bad news. I think this is a misguided message
Speaker 1: for post time. I'm gonna be honest with you. I
Speaker 1: think it's a little misguided. I don't think it's it's
Speaker 1: truly apples to apples.
Speaker 2: I don't The quality and depth argument on the Colorado
Speaker 2: side of this is also a bit of a question.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Now, look, I happen to think despite the news stories
Speaker 2: that are out there, I believe, at least I want
Speaker 2: to believe that Colorado is going to be better this season. Okay,
Speaker 2: they have to and they have to be better. I
Speaker 2: think they know where their deficiencies are, and they added
Speaker 2: some beef upfront on the line offensively, you know, we'll
Speaker 2: wait and see. They lost Dylan Edwards, like it, there's
Speaker 2: a lot in flux just given the way.
Speaker 1: Whatever Dan Hayden. Yeah, there's players there.
Speaker 2: There's a lot going on, but there's still a lot there,
Speaker 2: so I think they'll be better. The depth side of
Speaker 2: the argument, you lose me because I don't know if
Speaker 2: there's a whole lot of depth at Colorado at this point.
Speaker 2: It seems like it's very paper thin, which is a
Speaker 2: problem later in the year. But okay, that's just me.
Speaker 2: I have been paying attention. It seems like that's the problem.
Speaker 2: I don't disagree that they may surprise some people this year.
Speaker 2: I'd like to see that happen for their sake. I
Speaker 2: also agree, though, that this is a little bit misguided. Dan.
Speaker 2: I don't see TCU when I look at Colorado this year.
Speaker 2: I see I see Texas Tech twelve years ago, when
Speaker 2: they were playing one side of the ball and not
Speaker 2: the other, and we kept waiting for them to break
Speaker 2: through and be a little bit more well rounded, and
Speaker 2: it just kind of never happened. They were a fun offense,
Speaker 2: they weren't a good defense. Their games were more than
Speaker 2: not shootouts, and that was fun, that was entertaining. But
Speaker 2: you didn't go into those games expecting that Tech was
Speaker 2: going to come away as like a ten and two team.
Speaker 2: You expected seven and five, six and six, and that's
Speaker 2: often what you got. Now, maybe I'm selling Tech short.
Speaker 2: I'm not meaning to do so, but you get the point.
Speaker 2: That is what Colorado is right now, and I will
Speaker 2: happily be proven wrong on that. But until we see
Speaker 2: it on the field, you know there's a lot of
Speaker 2: ground they need to make up. Dan, from what we
Speaker 2: saw last season, this is not a well rounded team.
Speaker 2: They certainly have some really exciting pieces. Shador is going
Speaker 2: to be a first round pick. Travis Hunter is going
Speaker 2: to be a top five pick. There are clearly guys
Speaker 2: in this team are very, very talented, but I gotta
Speaker 2: stop short of anything more because I want to see
Speaker 2: in reality when they actually get there out on the field,
Speaker 2: what this off season rebuild, transfer, rebuild, what you know,
Speaker 2: whatever has done for that roster.
Speaker 1: Okay, here's the line from this post that I keep
Speaker 1: going back to when I read a S two s Buff, Yes,
Speaker 1: yes to us Buff. Those fans talk like they were
Speaker 1: Alabama rolling into Boulder on Opening Night? All right. In
Speaker 1: two thousand and five, Gary Barnett was after the two
Speaker 1: thousand and five season, was let go after going seven
Speaker 1: and six. Okay, fact check me on that seven and
Speaker 1: six seven and five regular season, finished first in the
Speaker 1: Big twelve North, lost in the Champs Sports Bowl. Okay,
Speaker 1: two thousand and five, simpler time, pre solid verbal. Do
Speaker 1: you know how many full winning seasons Colorado has had
Speaker 1: since going seven and five regular season that year? One?
Speaker 1: Two one? So do you know who rolls into Boulder
Speaker 1: thinking they're everything and they're gonna smoke Colorado? Every team,
Speaker 1: every team for the last nineteen years, has rolled into
Speaker 1: Colorado confidently because all Colorado does is year after year
Speaker 1: after year after year, coach after coach after coach is
Speaker 1: throw up ls. Okay, they're a losing program who does
Speaker 1: almost exclusively loses college football seasons. Okay, So rolling into
Speaker 1: Boulder thinking you're Alabama is not limited to the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty two TCU squad by at Oregon, USC, UCLA, Washington State, Arizona,
Speaker 1: Arizona State, Utah, New Big Twelve, to whatever whoever it is,
Speaker 1: you should roll into Boulder thinking you have an excellent
Speaker 1: shot to win, because recent history suggests, no matter who
Speaker 1: the coach is, people roll into Boulder and win. So
Speaker 1: TCU fans, even coming off of a disastrous season, even
Speaker 1: with a new coach, to who they would have no idea,
Speaker 1: even with the new starting quarterback, even with all that
Speaker 1: was new, they're not douchebags for doing that. That's history
Speaker 1: suggests that that's the actual correct move.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say this is not a Dion argu
Speaker 2: or not even mentioning no name before this, because the
Speaker 2: proofs kind of in the pudding.
Speaker 1: This is also pre Dion right that. Yeah, it's Carl
Speaker 1: Durrell's final season.
Speaker 2: It's been bad program for a while, and that's why
Speaker 2: I actually kind of commend them for going out to
Speaker 2: get deon. You need to kick up some dust. If
Speaker 2: you've got to try something different. You've been trying the
Speaker 2: same thing time and again it hasn't worked. I don't
Speaker 2: hate the movie to get done. I still don't. I mean,
Speaker 2: the press hasn't been great. But let's give him more time.
Speaker 2: See what he can do if he's trying to do
Speaker 2: this a little bit differently. Yeah, there is a lot
Speaker 2: though that I would argue in this message board post
Speaker 2: to say the least.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, but I love the idea, and I God
Speaker 1: bless Colorado fans. They've been through a lot. I love
Speaker 1: the idea of how dare you come to our town,
Speaker 1: in our stadium and feel confidently that you are going
Speaker 1: to win a college football game of all things?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: That that's great?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: Where do we want to go next? Here? And that's
Speaker 1: with all due respect to Laviska Chanal, who I love Viscashanal.
Speaker 1: We love Leaviska chan Taylor, what's the song? What's this
Speaker 1: message board on the Taylor Swift one?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: It's c B. I don't know why you think cougar board?
Speaker 1: Is this? BYU?
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift? Tortured posts apartment. I feel bad for those
Speaker 2: poets that had to listen to this garbage album and
Speaker 2: try to give it a positive review. I've heard four
Speaker 2: songs on the album enough to know it's absolute crap.
Speaker 2: She's not an artist. At some point she may have been,
Speaker 2: but as of now she has nothing of value to
Speaker 2: contribute to the world, and the songs reflected it's trash
Speaker 2: of the lowest type. There's a lot of animosity here
Speaker 2: from somebody named Mark Spector think.
Speaker 1: By the way, more up votes on this board than down.
Speaker 1: Yea four thumbs up, five happy faces, three eye rolls,
Speaker 1: and one thumbs down. So right now, the score nine
Speaker 1: to four in favor of Mark. Of his view on
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift a bit.
Speaker 2: Of a mixed review on the album. I have not
Speaker 2: seen Mark's write up anywhere online. I haven't seen his
Speaker 2: official review you.
Speaker 1: But this is that like off topic thing, right, This
Speaker 1: is the people simple sharing with their community.
Speaker 2: Have you listened to the album like three or four songs?
Speaker 1: And I like Taylor Swift. I've listened a few songs
Speaker 1: just because I don't really sit and listen to anything
Speaker 1: album wise. I listened to whatever Spotify tells me to
Speaker 1: on my Discover Weekly or whatever my day list, and
Speaker 1: then whatever my kids want to listen to in the car, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, is now Taylor Swift creeping into the rotation,
Speaker 1: the Kailer entering the culture five and three. Yeah, whoa damn,
Speaker 1: it's right now. The rotation that of the songs they
Speaker 1: like is cruel, Summer okay, blank space, shake it Off style.
Speaker 1: We're I'm probably shaping their interest via nineteen eighty nine,
Speaker 1: which is where I still go back to it, Goode
Speaker 1: t Swift. I haven't been able to get into the
Speaker 1: like last five six, seven years, like Folklore, Midnight's all
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. This is this is a.
Speaker 2: Point of contention between Solid Life Kate and I.
Speaker 1: But I'll say, and I understand why. I'll say, I
Speaker 1: don't think it's bad. It just I haven't attached myself
Speaker 1: to it. I listened to it, and I think that's
Speaker 1: pretty good, but I don't come back to it, and
Speaker 1: so I don't know whatever it does or doesn't resonate
Speaker 1: like I think it's pretty good, I just I don't know.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you just go back to the earlier because that's
Speaker 1: what got you into that music in the first place.
Speaker 2: This could be maybe.
Speaker 1: A lot of moody Taylor in that stretch.
Speaker 2: This could possibly be the most contentious part of my
Speaker 2: marriage right now. Yeah, and by that, it's not a
Speaker 2: tailor thing. It's a music thing.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: My taste in music. I like cheap pop music that
Speaker 2: makes me bop my head a little bit.
Speaker 1: Big train guy over here.
Speaker 2: Love train, Yeah, love the train tracks, But those types
Speaker 2: of jams, that's my thing. Solidwife Kate a little bit more.
Speaker 2: I'm sure she wouldn't mind me saying this. Much more
Speaker 2: into the deeper emotional, sleepier tunes that are out there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the more recent t Swift, more recent love folklore and
Speaker 2: whatever more midnights and now this when she's all into it.
Speaker 2: We've been listening to it NonStop. So it's definitely not
Speaker 2: my favorite that I've heard. I've listened to it enough
Speaker 2: though that some of the tracks have grown on me,
Speaker 2: and I do think it's pretty good. This is probably
Speaker 2: Mark Spector went a little bit overboard with this.
Speaker 1: Maybe can I ask can I ask you where my
Speaker 1: head has gone recently? Oh, with regard to our dear
Speaker 1: friend Taylor Swift, I hope it works out with her
Speaker 1: in charge.
Speaker 2: Dear friend Taylor Swift. Yeah, she's been on the podcast
Speaker 2: many times. She's from Pa, right from like, yeah.
Speaker 1: Twenty minutes down the road. Yeah, so she's local to you. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Uh so I'm rooting for her and Travis Kelcey as
Speaker 1: I have nothing. He just seems like a likable dude
Speaker 1: to me, and so I'm worried what happens if they
Speaker 1: don't make it. I'm worried if he's gonna because he
Speaker 1: just seems like a very earnest guy. I don't know him.
Speaker 1: Maybe he's not. He seems like a pretty earnest guy. Like,
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen to his game? I know he's older now,
Speaker 1: he's sort of an elder statesman of an NFL tight end,
Speaker 1: But like, is she gonna? Is she gonna trash him?
Speaker 1: And maybe he'll deserve it if it goes sideways, Our
Speaker 1: dear Travis. Kate.
Speaker 2: Kate tells me that she didn't really trash the last guy.
Speaker 2: Oh really, she didn't really? Well, two guys, I don't
Speaker 2: know one. Maybe Kate just doesn't fully know how to decipher. No, Well,
Speaker 2: she she knows way better than I do. Me too,
Speaker 2: But yeah, she kind of trashed one, but didn't trash
Speaker 2: another guy that folks were expecting she might trash more.
Speaker 2: I wish I can remember the name. I caught a
Speaker 2: start Joel went here. I'm looking it up, Joel. When
Speaker 2: that guy she was not built like Joe Walt. No, no, no,
Speaker 2: different guy. Different guy wasn't in the draft. Yeah. Anyway,
Speaker 2: I'm okay with it. I'm pro tailor with protailor on
Speaker 2: this show. We've always been okay, fair. Where do we
Speaker 2: want to go next? Dan?
Speaker 1: Okay? This is from a Clemson board. We'll stay off
Speaker 1: topic for a little while. This is from replay Man
Speaker 1: April thirtieth, twenty twenty four eleven, Witching Hour Tie. This
Speaker 1: is posted subject Swingers Convention. Sure guessing not about the
Speaker 1: seminole John Favreau movie Swingers Convention this week at burls Ford?
Speaker 1: Is this rumor true?
Speaker 2: And the fall ups?
Speaker 1: What got me sold? By the way, it looks like
Speaker 1: it's a campground. Okay, girls Ford campground?
Speaker 2: What a what a spot for a swingers convention?
Speaker 1: I agree? Uh. Then the follow up from fast Chad,
Speaker 1: who looks like can you decipher what I'm deciphering? From
Speaker 1: fast Chad's avatar here, it's definitely a picture of the
Speaker 1: Capitol a wintry time in the United States Capital.
Speaker 2: That's correct. Leave it at that.
Speaker 1: There's a crowd gathering and perhaps a Clemson flag in
Speaker 1: there at the bottom. Is that where you're seeing from
Speaker 1: Fast Chad.
Speaker 2: I would have to zoom in, but I can either
Speaker 2: confirm norgy.
Speaker 1: It's a wintry gathering at the United States Capitol built.
Speaker 1: This is probably a chill in the air. It's anyway
Speaker 1: part of the year. I would say, yeah, yeah, the
Speaker 1: grace guys. Fast Chad says, Yep, it's happening. I'm dating
Speaker 1: a girl that's going to be running a daycare out
Speaker 1: of her pop up on Friday and Saturday night. I
Speaker 1: told I told this is me adding her. I'd go
Speaker 1: to help, but I'm really going just to check out
Speaker 1: the scene. Most of these aren't as glamorous as they sound,
Speaker 1: but every once in a while they're real bangers. If
Speaker 1: anyone is going let me know, I'll see if I
Speaker 1: can get Becky, which by the way, doxing the girlfriend. Yes,
Speaker 1: to give you a discount on childcare, assuming you're bringing
Speaker 1: your kids ages six and under are welcome. I add
Speaker 1: to the childcare to the childcare. So South Carolina campground
Speaker 1: swingers situation.
Speaker 2: Listen, whatever you're into.
Speaker 1: Ah, we shamed not.
Speaker 2: I don't you know. We're not judging here. This is
Speaker 2: a no judgment pod. This is just a terrific off
Speaker 2: topic posting.
Speaker 1: Why I posted publicly and not in a direct message. Well,
Speaker 1: everybody better see this. If anybody needs childcare for this,
Speaker 1: what's promising to be a pretty great swingers event in
Speaker 1: nature in South Carolina? Now, far be it from me.
Speaker 1: I don't question anybody's lifestyle. I don't question anybody's social choices.
Speaker 1: But in terms of making new social connections. Yeah, outdoors
Speaker 1: at a campground, I mean you're in a tent, but
Speaker 1: it's still.
Speaker 2: Bug adjacent, bug adjacent.
Speaker 1: Yeah, elements are at play here, weather elements. I love
Speaker 1: the that fast chat is quick to affirm, quick to
Speaker 1: confirm that the event is indeed happening.
Speaker 2: Smart businessman. So again, look up burls Ford.
Speaker 1: Look it up? Is it? It is what I'm looking
Speaker 1: at right.
Speaker 2: I'm looking this up now burrows.
Speaker 1: Ford, South Carolina.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, man, this is the We got to go
Speaker 2: to the Google Maps view of this, the street view thing.
Speaker 2: See what we got. The street view doesn't even go back.
Speaker 2: There is what I'm seeing, So you're right, this is
Speaker 2: in the sticks man, I'm looking at the Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's like a river, a creek.
Speaker 2: Oh, there's bridges, beautiful countryside in South Carolina.
Speaker 1: But how do you how do you coordinate this type
Speaker 1: of event when there's no like central congregating place. There's
Speaker 1: just people are setting up tents and you know, knocking
Speaker 1: on zippers.
Speaker 2: There was there was a an issue in my hometown.
Speaker 1: Let's see, with.
Speaker 2: A dilapidated old barn and countryside like area. There's an
Speaker 2: old farm, yeah, that somebody had co opted and turned
Speaker 2: into a meeting space for raves up and down the
Speaker 2: Eastern seaboard.
Speaker 1: No brainer.
Speaker 2: And it was not a situation where you could park.
Speaker 2: It was not a situation where you could really have
Speaker 2: like a staging area or anything like that. It was
Speaker 2: all supposed to be on the DL And so you
Speaker 2: had a lot of like ride sharing opera. This is
Speaker 2: like pre ride sharing, but a lot of people finding
Speaker 2: ways to communicate online, sharing rides, going to a drop
Speaker 2: off point, a rally point, being shuttled by somebody else,
Speaker 2: all kind of in the name of trying to keep
Speaker 2: this under wraps, All.
Speaker 1: In the name of dropping that big nasty beat, drop
Speaker 1: the big nasty beat.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if this is one of those situations
Speaker 2: or how exactly you go about getting folks organized for
Speaker 2: something like this. My hunch is that there's a private
Speaker 2: Facebook group somewhere. Of course, that's how these things kind
Speaker 2: of see the light of day. But I'm looking at
Speaker 2: this picture.
Speaker 1: I don't somebody's dropping a pin on specifically where this happening.
Speaker 2: Somebody is sharing an iOS location. Yeah, this is I
Speaker 2: don't know if I'd want to go to.
Speaker 1: This, but look here, Well, here's the advantage. Right, you're
Speaker 1: sort of outside the watchful eye of Johnny Law. If
Speaker 1: you're going to a campground, right, You're not at a bar,
Speaker 1: You're not at some sort of event space, You're not
Speaker 1: at somebody's house making a bunch of noise and the
Speaker 1: neighbors are getting involved. You're sort of a way. And
Speaker 1: so if you're really going at this in an aggressive
Speaker 1: like community way, everybody's being safe, everybody's asking for the
Speaker 1: correct permissions, right, then it does kind of make sense.
Speaker 2: Man, what's the line look like at the childcare place afterwards?
Speaker 1: Yeah? That's my question is like, what is what kind
Speaker 1: of setup do we have for the kids. Off to
Speaker 1: the side here the camp cress is. It doesn't seem ideal.
Speaker 2: I have many questions about the gathering. Why don't we
Speaker 2: close it out with this one? Just got a babysitter
Speaker 2: at home. Everybody, just get the babe danced in. Yeah,
Speaker 2: before he goes to his swinger conventions. Yeah, Dogs twenty
Speaker 2: four to seven. Stetson has a better NFL career than
Speaker 2: all six of the quarterbacks taken tonight. I believe this
Speaker 2: is some sort of prediction. Yes, yeah, I think so.
Speaker 2: Stets and Bennett. Did Stetson Bennett see any snaps last.
Speaker 1: Year stets and Bennett NFL stats? I don't believe so
Speaker 1: plays for the Rams. He went away for a little
Speaker 1: bit to better himself, which I tip my cap for
Speaker 1: tip my cap two. It does not look like he
Speaker 1: has any available stats for the Rams. Okay, so I
Speaker 1: know Matt Stafford I think asks for more money, yes,
Speaker 1: for a negotiation situation with the Rams. I don't know
Speaker 1: what has happened with that. But Matt Stafford's certainly not young.
Speaker 2: No, I mean, he's sort of in the twilight of
Speaker 2: his career at this point. So right now, if you're
Speaker 2: looking at the Rams depth chart. Matt Stafford, is your
Speaker 2: cue be one. Jimmy Garoppolo, who I think is now
Speaker 2: suspended for some period of time, is the is the
Speaker 2: two and stets and Bennett's the three. So it's not
Speaker 2: out of the question that stets and Bennett could get
Speaker 2: a run at at taking a few snaps in the league.
Speaker 2: It just feels like the.
Speaker 1: First two games.
Speaker 2: Jimmy Garopps, Yeah, it feel it feels like it's a
Speaker 2: very limited window to do so, and it feels like
Speaker 2: there is enough Ammo on the field if he does
Speaker 2: get in there, that provided he's not a total disaster.
Speaker 2: I mean, they've got great receiver talent in Los Angeles, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup and Pouka Nakua.
Speaker 2: Cooper, Cupp and Pooka. They've got Kyen Williams, former Notre damer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, see having a good career. I don't know, Kion.
Speaker 2: Williams had a great year last year. Blake Koram just
Speaker 2: drafted into the league. Will see what what he brings
Speaker 2: with him. I mean, I think By and larsa Rams
Speaker 2: are pretty good team. Not an NFL analyst, so it
Speaker 2: stands to reason that Stetson Bennett having maybe been in
Speaker 2: the system a year, knows the offense has weapons around him,
Speaker 2: could come in and be successful. To say that he's
Speaker 2: going to have a prolonged NFL career, though I'm always
Speaker 2: hesitant to to call that out for quarterbacks under six
Speaker 2: foot tall.
Speaker 1: I think he will have a better NFL career than
Speaker 1: one of these quarterbacks. How about that?
Speaker 2: Then?
Speaker 1: At all six which one I just think because of
Speaker 1: the not an NFL analytic, has become abundantly clear playing
Speaker 1: for Sean McVay, having that kind of receiver, talent, creativity
Speaker 1: on offense, running backs, whatever, that he could flash for
Speaker 1: four or five games in a relief role and become
Speaker 1: an attractive free agent or something down the line, or
Speaker 1: a trade if candidate, If like a quarterback gets hurt
Speaker 1: and the Rams are sitting with a really promising backup quarterback,
Speaker 1: sure which of the six well I was going to
Speaker 1: go through?
Speaker 2: So like you wouldn't take him over Klea Williams' sing, I.
Speaker 1: Have no idea. I don't know anything, neither do I
Speaker 1: play the game.
Speaker 2: Play the game?
Speaker 1: Humor me, No, not over Kayla Williams at the moment, No,
Speaker 1: Jane Daniels, Oh, it would be Bonix or Michael Pennix.
Speaker 2: To me, I think it's Bonix. I think Bonix is
Speaker 2: the obvious one.
Speaker 1: Boonis at least has a good quarterback coach, and Sean
Speaker 1: Payton I think. I don't know, and I always appreciate
Speaker 1: teams playing at altitude. The Pennock situation just weird.
Speaker 2: Penix might not even play man, right, There's a chance
Speaker 2: he he never plays, yeah, right, because they signed Kirk
Speaker 2: Cousins the game one hundred and eighty million dollars, He's
Speaker 2: going to be the guy.
Speaker 1: Like he'll be Jordan Love and sit for a long time.
Speaker 2: The problem is Jordan Love was younger, and by the
Speaker 2: time Penix would play in that setup, he'd be like
Speaker 2: twenty seven years old, Yeah, which is clearly not where
Speaker 2: the league is at nowadays. It doesn't mean he couldn't
Speaker 2: be successful, just would be a bit a bit non
Speaker 2: standard given where things stand right now. So I would
Speaker 2: like to see Stetson Bennet play in the NFL. I
Speaker 2: would really like and I and you know, when he
Speaker 2: was in college, so much of the conversation about Stetson
Speaker 2: Bennett was around who else should Georgia play at quarterback
Speaker 2: instead of stets and Bennet, And it took a while
Speaker 2: for many of us, maybe not Georgia fans, but many
Speaker 2: of us on the outside to come to grips with
Speaker 2: the fact that, like this dude's just going to be
Speaker 2: the quarterback, and he's really good as a college quarterback,
Speaker 2: full stop. He was very, very good. He's going down
Speaker 2: as one of the greatest ever, certainly for Georgia and
Speaker 2: the SEC or whatever else. And so it's guys like
Speaker 2: that that have i'll say a little bit of a
Speaker 2: t bow complex in that they were interesting players in
Speaker 2: college for a multitude of reasons. Neither of them necessarily
Speaker 2: projected all that well to the next level, but there
Speaker 2: was this inherent curiosity around what would happen if they
Speaker 2: got a few snaps. And I feel that about Stetson Bennett.
Speaker 2: You know, I think it'd be a good story for
Speaker 2: stets and Bennett to step in and actually be productive
Speaker 2: on the next level.
Speaker 1: I've no idea if it's a good story, but I
Speaker 1: want to see it.
Speaker 2: I think it'd be a good story. I would like
Speaker 2: to see it. Fair enough, all right, any of these
Speaker 2: other ones here that you want to address quickly, We've got,
Speaker 2: like I.
Speaker 1: Think we should circle back to burls Ford. If anybody out.
Speaker 2: There is a reballer going to Burl's Ford.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we want a thorough write up of your experience,
Speaker 1: what you saw first person on the ground.
Speaker 2: Report this is or if you've just been to Burl's
Speaker 2: Ford for like an action camping thing, just local knowledge
Speaker 2: would be helpful. Here, solid verbal, how do you think
Speaker 2: that aligns with a swinger's night? Yeah? Where would you
Speaker 2: throw one?
Speaker 1: Solid verbal?
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Speaker 2: you something please?
Speaker 1: As it relates. First of all, I wanted to ask
Speaker 1: you something at the top of the show that I
Speaker 1: decided to ask you at the end of the show,
Speaker 1: how uh deleted, erased or not at all? Is your
Speaker 1: digital footprint via message boards over the years, Like, if
Speaker 1: somebody found out your username, could they go back and
Speaker 1: find anything like damning that you've posted or embarrassing that
Speaker 1: you've posted, emotional that you were riled up while posting.
Speaker 2: It has been so long since I posted on a
Speaker 2: message board, okay, And I've always been pretty mindful of
Speaker 2: what I'm putting out there.
Speaker 1: But if if a forensic somebody did some some forensic
Speaker 1: message board accounting.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't think I've posted anything that would
Speaker 2: be too objectionable, Okay, and people who people listening to
Speaker 2: this show know that I'm not that controversial, that's true.
Speaker 2: So if any of that stuff is out there, and
Speaker 2: I don't even remember what my name is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, swing Guy forty four four, thank you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think so.
Speaker 1: How about you. Oh, there are probably posts I regret, Yeah,
Speaker 1: there're Twitter posts regret. Yeah, there are tweets I regret
Speaker 1: for sure, But I I sort of cleaned all that up,
Speaker 1: Like I just at some point figured like, why do
Speaker 1: I need tweets from twenty thirteen good, bad, meaningless. It's
Speaker 1: like floating around like it doesn't seem like there's a reason. No,
Speaker 1: so there's like some service. I'll just like get rid
Speaker 1: of it older than a year or something. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's probably stuff I regret. I don't know. I have
Speaker 1: no idea. I don't remember all my screen names either,
Speaker 1: so I don't know what it's a it's been a
Speaker 1: minute now. The other thing to add is like I
Speaker 1: don't know the terminology for the burls forward stuff. And
Speaker 1: we just had a couple invite us over for a
Speaker 1: game night, and I have no idea if it's an
Speaker 1: actual game night. Is that a code? Okay, we did
Speaker 1: talk about like code names is one of the games
Speaker 1: I think, and taboo, But then again, taboo could be
Speaker 1: missing to I don't know solid verbogmail dot com.
Speaker 2: I don't let us know is the email addressed? Let
Speaker 2: us know my thing, but find us on social media
Speaker 2: as well. We'd appreciate any end all of your support.
Speaker 1: We'll be back a little bit later on this week.
Speaker 2: Welcome to May College Football Talk, Boys and girls. Big
Speaker 2: shout out to our friends over at boor Geniuses for
Speaker 2: putting in yeomen's work time and again bringing some of
Speaker 2: these great message board postings to light. We appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Thank you for letting us piggyback on some of your
Speaker 2: hard work.
Speaker 1: Aggregating the aggregator.
Speaker 2: That's right for that guy over there, my good friend
Speaker 2: Dan Rubinstein, for myself, tie held the brand.
Speaker 1: Hope you had fun.
Speaker 2: We did.
Speaker 1: Talk to you soon.
Speaker 2: Stay solid, peace, h