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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the solid verbal call that for me, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a man, I'm for I've heard so many players say,

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<v Speaker 1>well I want to be happy, you want to be happy?

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<v Speaker 1>For Dake, Edith Steak is that woo woom? And Dan

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<v Speaker 1>and Tie.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to these solid verbal boys and girls. My

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<v Speaker 2>name is Ty Hill Neebrandt. That fine gentleman over there

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<v Speaker 2>is always the one, the only still being comparable. Dan Rubenstein, Sir,

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to the show How Goes It?

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<v Speaker 1>Because really, well, this is one of my favorite annual

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<v Speaker 1>episodes that we do. Because what is more college football

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<v Speaker 1>than what we are going to do today? What is

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<v Speaker 1>more uh evident of the insanity that college football brings

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<v Speaker 1>upon people's brains than one listening to a college football

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<v Speaker 1>podcast in early May and two listening to a college

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<v Speaker 1>football podcast in early May about the funniest, weirdest, most

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<v Speaker 1>oddball message board posts. And this is these are message

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<v Speaker 1>boards posts that are relatively recently Yes, costed correct. I

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<v Speaker 1>love this episode so very much. It's the essence of

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<v Speaker 1>the sport. It truly is.

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<v Speaker 2>We did a bonus episode out on our Patreon it

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<v Speaker 2>for ballers dot com. This is not so much a

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<v Speaker 2>plug as it is just a comment, yeah on Thursday

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<v Speaker 2>where you pose the question or somebody posed the question

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<v Speaker 2>asking what is college football made of? Of all the

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<v Speaker 2>other elements of sport in the United States, around the world,

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<v Speaker 2>elements of pop culture, business, you name it, like, what

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<v Speaker 2>are all of the bits and pieces that make college

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<v Speaker 2>football unique? And we ended up having a longer discussion

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<v Speaker 2>about basically this, this subculture of college football fandom that

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<v Speaker 2>dabbles in conspiracies.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, some more so than others, dip some toes.

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<v Speaker 2>It is all kind of mixed together into this weird

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<v Speaker 2>brew that we imbibe on a nearly weekly basis. Here

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<v Speaker 2>on the Solid Verbal College Football Podcast, today we are

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<v Speaker 2>going to talk through some message board postings that have

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<v Speaker 2>been put out there into the world by our good

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<v Speaker 2>friends over at message board Geniuses. They are on Twitter

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<v Speaker 2>at board Geniuses. We are not taking credit for any

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<v Speaker 2>of their walk We are merely piggybacking on it.

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<v Speaker 1>We are aggregating their aggregation, are we not, and celebrating it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, this is aggregation inception and one of the

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<v Speaker 1>great things we should note at the top here is

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<v Speaker 1>on any college football message board that you will ever

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<v Speaker 1>come across, you will see topics that are like what

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<v Speaker 1>do we think of this defensive coordinator? Or what game

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<v Speaker 1>scares you the most? Or is recruiting gonna take a

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<v Speaker 1>step up in July, you know, like every sort of

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<v Speaker 1>micro issue or topic within team fandom. But then there's

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<v Speaker 1>there are other adjacent boards. And I'm explaining to this

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<v Speaker 1>to I don't know the four of you who have

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<v Speaker 1>never come across a college football message board but are

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<v Speaker 1>listening to a college football podcast. Correct somehow that ven

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<v Speaker 1>diagram and there's just like a tiny little sliver, but

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<v Speaker 1>there's always going to be Like I think they're usually

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<v Speaker 1>called ot boards, right, the off topic boards, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>like politics or family or food, and then there is

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<v Speaker 1>something about college football fandom. And there's so much emotion

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<v Speaker 1>in the connective tissue between fans that people feel comfortable

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<v Speaker 1>bouncing things off of each other, like you feel a

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<v Speaker 1>rapport with this digital community. This is not me looking

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<v Speaker 1>down at all. I actually think it's healthy to find

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<v Speaker 1>community in person, preferable, I would say, but digital community

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<v Speaker 1>can also be quite valuable. And you will just see

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<v Speaker 1>posts like hey, quick question, what does anybody here do

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<v Speaker 1>about like particularly aggressive toe fungus? Like and it's just

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<v Speaker 1>like throwing out personal stuff, thrown out things that you

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't think that would like come up on a college

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<v Speaker 1>football message board, and then you'll get responses like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>if you go to Walgreens, look for this and like

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<v Speaker 1>trust it, or like my doctor actually said you need

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<v Speaker 1>to go see a specialist. And like everybody's very earnest

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<v Speaker 1>on these boards and all of these posts that we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to go through college football and otherwise I believe

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<v Speaker 1>actually like come from a pretty earnest place. Because it's April,

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<v Speaker 1>it's March, it's May. There's nobody trolling, nobody who has

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<v Speaker 1>the uh, the wherewithal to say. This is when I

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<v Speaker 1>go on and make something up completely ridiculous in May,

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<v Speaker 1>like the emotions get the best people in September. But

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<v Speaker 1>right now, this is what's really truly weighing on people's minds.

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<v Speaker 2>These are the true believers that are posting in in

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<v Speaker 2>early May, and I love it. Throughout the month of April,

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<v Speaker 2>we've joked on this show more times than I could

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<v Speaker 2>ever count how this is the especially dead period of

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<v Speaker 2>college football, right after the draft, before before we start

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<v Speaker 2>getting into you know, scheduled previews and the summer months

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<v Speaker 2>when things really start to pick up. Right about now

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<v Speaker 2>is that soft underbelly of college football content where frankly

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<v Speaker 2>it's a show like this or an interview or nothing

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<v Speaker 2>else because there just isn't news. Thankfully, it's good to

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<v Speaker 2>get a little bit of a reprieve from the news.

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<v Speaker 2>It feels like every time we open up our phones

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<v Speaker 2>these days, there is something new that maybe troubles us

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<v Speaker 2>on the college football front, be it roster construction in

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<v Speaker 2>one place, or rules in another, lawsuits, lawsuits.

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<v Speaker 1>The purpose of.

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<v Speaker 2>Today is to dabble in none of that stuff, well,

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<v Speaker 2>tangentially perhaps, Yeah, of course, But we're going to go

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<v Speaker 2>through some of these again message board postings that have

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<v Speaker 2>been brought to light by our good friends over at

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<v Speaker 2>board Geniuses. Go and check them out on Twitter. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we dive in? So you're telling me there's a chance, Yeah, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, Yes, what are we hiding? What are we hiding?

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<v Speaker 2>A Florida fan wants to know what Billy Napier is hiding.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, was rewatching Ted Lasso and got to the

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<v Speaker 2>episode where he lets the fans start attending practice after

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<v Speaker 2>two seasons of hiding practices, And I admit, he's not

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<v Speaker 2>the only coach. What does Billy think he's gaining? To

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<v Speaker 2>say that we've been able to surprise people with our

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<v Speaker 2>scheme or game plan is laughable. Why can't you He's

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<v Speaker 2>speaking directly to I guess a Florida Beat reporter here.

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<v Speaker 2>Why can't you or the rest of us watch a

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<v Speaker 2>practice and not just ten minutes of nothing? Does he

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<v Speaker 2>think he can lose worse than he has?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>So the tension here is obviously between Florida fans and

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<v Speaker 2>Billy Napier and no secret as to why billiy Napier

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<v Speaker 2>is going to start the twenty twenty four campaign as

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<v Speaker 2>one of the one of the most prominent coaches on

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<v Speaker 2>the hottest of seats and to boot, Florida has a

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<v Speaker 2>particularly brutal schedule. It is tough anyway you shake it.

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<v Speaker 2>I called it out a couple days ago, made a

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<v Speaker 2>video that I posted online. But Florida opens its season

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<v Speaker 2>at home against the Miami Hurricanes, so in state rivalry

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<v Speaker 2>right out of the shoot. We went through the schedule

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<v Speaker 2>briefly before, and the way this thing is constructed, you

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<v Speaker 2>got to get your wins early. If you want to

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<v Speaker 2>go to a bawl, you gotta get your wins early

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<v Speaker 2>because it's going to toughen up a little bit later

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<v Speaker 2>on in the season. So Florida, I feel like, is

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<v Speaker 2>a great candidate for wild conspiracy theories as it relates

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<v Speaker 2>to Billy Napier in college football? What is he hiding?

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<v Speaker 2>Dan Rubinstein?

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<v Speaker 1>What's the old line, If you're gonna be dumb, you

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<v Speaker 1>better be tough, right like the old adage, like if

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to be bad, it's tough to be secretive, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you need to sort of give people something. You give,

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<v Speaker 1>got to give people more sos. I don't think practices

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<v Speaker 1>should be open, like in a world, in a world

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<v Speaker 1>that you do have, you know, eyes everywhere. I understand

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<v Speaker 1>why people want to be secretive, especially given what's on

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<v Speaker 1>the line in major sec play, Like you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to give too money things away, You don't you know

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<v Speaker 1>who's starting at left guard? Perhaps that doesn't matter. But

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<v Speaker 1>I understand from Billion Napier's perspective why you want to

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<v Speaker 1>keep things secretive. I understand why you're if you're a

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<v Speaker 1>Florida fan, you are starved for something positive, while if

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<v Speaker 1>you are starved for a morsel of a highlight from practice,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a receiver making a one hand Trey Wilson

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<v Speaker 1>making a one handed grab, or something that even the

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<v Speaker 1>team would put out. And so that's the sort of

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<v Speaker 1>issue that I get that if your team is disappointing,

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<v Speaker 1>you better go into overdrive to give people. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>need to get people fluff for positivity, but a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of access to get people excited and energized and

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<v Speaker 1>electrified during the off season. And so I enjoy the

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<v Speaker 1>Ted last So I didn't watch the final season of

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<v Speaker 1>Ted Lasso, by the way, so I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>secretive last I was with his practices.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well Last last season is a separate conversation from yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the first two. But I get where fans are coming from.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you want something positive, you want momentum that

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<v Speaker 2>you can build on in the off season. I think

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<v Speaker 2>what we saw a DJ Lagway was very promising right

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<v Speaker 2>in the spring game that gave Florida some hope, some momentum,

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<v Speaker 2>some feeling of momentum. But the schedule stands in the way.

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<v Speaker 2>And look, there seems to be something of a concern

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<v Speaker 2>as to what Florida's offense is going to look like

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<v Speaker 2>this season. And that's not to say that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't have guys who can play quarterback thenk Graham

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<v Speaker 2>Mertz last year was fine. Maybe we'll see DJ Lagway

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit here and there. Who knows. There are

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<v Speaker 2>some losses, obviously we've talked about them as well. But

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<v Speaker 2>as things stand right now, even with a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>the negative press that I know Florida people have talked

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<v Speaker 2>about in the off season, still only a two point

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<v Speaker 2>dog at home to open up the season against the

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<v Speaker 2>Miami Hurricanes in State Ryle the Sunshine Showdown, whatever it's called. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>So Vegas is not looking down its nose too much

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<v Speaker 2>at the Florida Gators, cause I think Miami should be

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<v Speaker 2>pretty good. Sure whatever, here's my question for you. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>I know that was very dismissive of what you said,

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<v Speaker 2>which was all true. Do you consume Notre Dame produced

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<v Speaker 2>content like content schools are now pretty thorough about like

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<v Speaker 2>behind the scenes stuff and here's a day in the

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<v Speaker 2>life of so and so on the team, like here's

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<v Speaker 2>a day in the life of Benjamin Morrison or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>And there is that opportunity if you're a diehard fan,

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<v Speaker 2>to go inside the program via video and social media whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>And some schools, I know Clemson is big on this.

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<v Speaker 2>Schools are doing this.

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<v Speaker 1>Now like full length like Oregon. Oregon's very big on it,

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<v Speaker 1>but they do. I honestly have no idea what Orgon

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<v Speaker 1>does in terms of longer form stuff, but there are

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<v Speaker 1>some schools that will do like a twenty four minute episode,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's why I saw I remember seeing Clemson doing

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<v Speaker 1>this where it's like they're producing like their own version

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<v Speaker 1>of Hard Knocks, right, It's like a highly produced thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and it is red meat for the fans who want

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<v Speaker 1>more access, who want more of a look in. I

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<v Speaker 1>have no idea if Notre Dame does that. I have

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<v Speaker 1>no idea if you consume that. I like Organs like,

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<v Speaker 1>I think they all.

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<v Speaker 2>Do it to some extent, and I can only take

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<v Speaker 2>it in doses because there's only some level of sunshine

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<v Speaker 2>pumping that's tolerable to me. Sure, and it's not just

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<v Speaker 2>Notre Dame stuff that I'll watch. I'll watch Penn State stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll watch other teams. We have been featured many times

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<v Speaker 2>over in those types of videos.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>We were in the Texas A and M one last year.

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<v Speaker 2>I think when they got rid of Jimbo and decided

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<v Speaker 2>they were going to look for a new coach. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>it was after they hired Mike Elko. Regardless, you siate

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<v Speaker 2>the free.

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<v Speaker 1>Presses Penn State one. I think Penn State used my

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<v Speaker 1>voice or something doubting them and yep, yep, yep, yep.

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<v Speaker 1>Then they were disappointing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we've been in a bunch of them over the years,

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<v Speaker 2>so we've watched plenty of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Feel free. By the way, here's my express verbal permission.

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<v Speaker 1>You can use our voices in any of those if

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<v Speaker 1>we're high on your team, if we're low on your team,

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<v Speaker 1>do whatever you gotta do.

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<v Speaker 2>Totally cool, We're it's totally totally fine for us. I

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<v Speaker 2>can only take the school produced stuff in doses. Yeah, same,

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<v Speaker 2>not against it. And where are we going.

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<v Speaker 1>With this again?

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<v Speaker 2>What was the pointed that?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, it's just that, like if Florida is being so

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<v Speaker 1>secretive right that you have to go above and beyond

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<v Speaker 1>to at least give the diehards some You're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to let them into practice or whatever, but like you

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<v Speaker 1>got to, you got to open up the content kimono

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit to get these people excited coming off

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<v Speaker 1>of a season that was somewhat disappointing, and there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of doubts heading into this season, especially considering the

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<v Speaker 1>Florida schedule. So that's all. And I think Oregon. I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen some of the Oregon stuff they do with like

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<v Speaker 1>a two minute recap, like a cinematic recap during the

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<v Speaker 1>season that's very well done, But like all of the

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<v Speaker 1>behind the scenes stuff, if it's longer than two or

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<v Speaker 1>three minutes, I know, I get kind of lost.

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<v Speaker 2>Where do you want to go next? You want to

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<v Speaker 2>pick one out out of the dock?

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<v Speaker 1>Here? Dan sure? If Oklahoma lands, this is Pickleman Pickleman's cafe.

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<v Speaker 1>If we Oklahoma land, Dominic Williams TCU defensive line transfer,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll lack white dog bleep, like I guess from step Brothers. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>my question to you is not react to this or

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I have no idea. If there was a

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<v Speaker 1>follow up about this gentleman or lady licking dog excrement

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<v Speaker 1>based on a transfer, a promising defensive line transfer. My

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<v Speaker 1>question to you is, have you ever made this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of bet to do something disgusting based on sports? Is

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<v Speaker 1>there something you'd be willing to do that would be

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<v Speaker 1>a a worthwhile trade off for Notre Dame or Penn

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<v Speaker 1>State doing something like a recruit like a giant recruiting

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<v Speaker 1>win or a giant like in season win or playoff

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<v Speaker 1>birth like. Is there anything that compels you or maybe

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<v Speaker 1>when you were nineteen or something.

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<v Speaker 2>First off, I believe Oklahoma got the guy.

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<v Speaker 1>That he did. That's what I'm saying. Did he follow

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<v Speaker 1>he or she followed through?

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know if there's been a follow up

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<v Speaker 2>post to it. Hopefully boor geniuses can point us in

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<v Speaker 2>the right direction there. I hope this gentleman's okay. If

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<v Speaker 2>he did follow through with that bet, it's a bit disgusting.

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<v Speaker 2>I've not really been much for the preposterous bet outside

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<v Speaker 2>of our show. Outside of our show, you know now

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<v Speaker 2>you had the bet, what was it.

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<v Speaker 1>Two years ago?

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<v Speaker 2>I forget what it was. You did the face panting

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<v Speaker 2>for LSU.

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<v Speaker 1>Which LSU Auburn. Yeah, Tiger was.

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<v Speaker 2>Tremendous and is still featured out there on many of

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<v Speaker 2>our social media accounts. You can go find it anywhere

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<v Speaker 2>you could find this solid verbal. I've thought about this.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like in the end, I'm too much of

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<v Speaker 2>a chicken.

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<v Speaker 1>This could be a good kind of inflection point because

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<v Speaker 1>what happens is okay, So let's say this person doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>renege on this offer to lick dog droppings whatever based

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<v Speaker 1>on a portal commitment. And if this person is married

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<v Speaker 1>and a spouse finds out that they are licking white dog,

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<v Speaker 1>oh okay, okay, no, no, I'm like us, like Steve,

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<v Speaker 1>what did you do today? And you post you posted

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<v Speaker 1>it where like maybe that's like the rock bottom that

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<v Speaker 1>some people need when they're doing that online. So I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate that. Next one, this is from Buck fifty two

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<v Speaker 1>Underscore thirty Husker online, So conspiracy theory here. Oh dash

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<v Speaker 1>dash A Big ten tells trev Alberts to take the

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<v Speaker 1>text A and M. I add a D job and

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<v Speaker 1>help the program to and help lead the program to

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<v Speaker 1>the Big ten. Text A and M to the Big

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<v Speaker 1>ten leadership already be on board with this action, then

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<v Speaker 1>the Big Ten tells Trev. If he gets the job done,

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<v Speaker 1>he will be the next commissioner of the Big Ten.

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<v Speaker 1>That being said, Texas A and M and Notre Dame

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<v Speaker 1>would be mega great news for the Big Ten. And

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<v Speaker 1>oh and get our AAU membership back before we are

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<v Speaker 1>booted back to the Big twelve or the MAC or

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<v Speaker 1>the Mountain West or some other conference like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Whoa, there's a lot going on here. Yeah, this is

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<v Speaker 2>next level.

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<v Speaker 1>So Trev Alberts as a Big Ten mole at Texas

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<v Speaker 1>A and M to get Texas A and M out

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<v Speaker 1>of the SEC to the Big Ten. This is on

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<v Speaker 1>a Nebraska board.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, Texas A and M just joined the

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<v Speaker 2>SEC not that long ago, right, This isn't like they've

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<v Speaker 2>been in the conference.

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<v Speaker 1>Fourteen years, thirteen years.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been I know, but it's not been fifty years,

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<v Speaker 2>I know. So he's saying, all right, so Trev's going

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<v Speaker 2>to go to the take the A and M ad job,

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<v Speaker 2>going to be the mole, going to move them over

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<v Speaker 2>to the Big Ten. And then here's the problem with this.

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<v Speaker 2>Trev Alberts has no say in whether or not a

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<v Speaker 2>team leaves conferences. He might have input, but Ultimately, that's

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<v Speaker 2>a president's decision. Right, So, unless Trev Alberts is playing

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<v Speaker 2>some sort of game of thrones and will ascend to leadership,

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<v Speaker 2>true leadership of Texas A and M.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not asking for a counterpoint to this insane post.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want your gut reaction.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I love the energy of it, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>as I do most conspiracy theories, most of the non

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<v Speaker 2>problematic ones. Anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but uh, would you like Texas A and M

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<v Speaker 1>in the Big Ten? Would they be an asset to

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<v Speaker 1>the Big Ten? Exactly? Exactly right, Ty, Texas A and

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<v Speaker 1>M and Notre Dame who are playing each other this year, right,

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<v Speaker 1>first week of the season. Yeah, first week of the season.

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<v Speaker 1>Texas A and M and Notre Dame bringing Texas, the

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<v Speaker 1>state of Texas, bringing the South Ish into the Big Ten?

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<v Speaker 1>Why not? Why not? I don't think it's Trev Alberts

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<v Speaker 1>doing it. You said, But nothing matters, Ty, nothing matters.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything is chaos. Texas A and M to the Big Ten.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ready.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, if Oregon and Washington and UCLA and

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<v Speaker 2>USC can go to the Big ten, clearly, geographic footprint matters,

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<v Speaker 2>not doesn't matter where you're located. The Big Ten's probably

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<v Speaker 2>interested the SEC, if only because of its name, right,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe anchored a bit more to teams in the general

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<v Speaker 2>Southeast region, but even that has kind of expanded as

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<v Speaker 2>time has gone on. It doesn't like I understand that

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<v Speaker 2>this is all being driven by money. For the life

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<v Speaker 2>of me, I still can't get past the whole geography thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know college football has moved past it, I

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<v Speaker 2>have not. It still feels really weird to me. It's

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<v Speaker 2>going to feel really weird this year when O'regon and

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<v Speaker 2>Washington are playing in the Big Ten. I'm just not

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<v Speaker 2>going to be able to get over it. We've used

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<v Speaker 2>the analogy before, but it's like when teams Major League

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<v Speaker 2>Baseball teams switch switch leagues. Yeah, and I've still not

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<v Speaker 2>figured out who's where. I've been a baseball fan my

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<v Speaker 2>entire life. It still confuses me to this day. So

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I guess college football has gotten to the

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<v Speaker 2>point where they're living in a post geography conference world.

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<v Speaker 2>But for me, no, I we can't. We can't do this.

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<v Speaker 2>We can't. I appreciate the I appreciate the energy here,

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<v Speaker 2>but no.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a little like if the Kansas City Royals announced

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<v Speaker 1>they were joining the KBOY Korean Baseball League. Weere like

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<v Speaker 1>it just actually makes more sense for us at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>They got a great deal, a sweetheart deal to join

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<v Speaker 1>the KBO. Uh. You know, South Korea is expanding to

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<v Speaker 1>the Midwestern footprint.

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<v Speaker 2>But here, see, here's where they get you with off

0:19:41.240 --> 0:19:44.399
<v Speaker 2>the wall ideas like this. Yeah, there is a shred

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<v Speaker 2>of truth in it, and that is that Notre Dame

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<v Speaker 2>would be make a great news for the Big Ten. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>of course it would be right. People have been saying

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<v Speaker 2>that for decades, myself included, So at least it's grounded

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<v Speaker 2>on that front. Although I don't know if A and

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<v Speaker 2>M and A and M Notre Dame are going to

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<v Speaker 2>be the targets the next targets for the Big Ten.

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<v Speaker 2>It could be Florida State Notre Dame.

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<v Speaker 1>If Notre Dame were to join the Big Ten. At

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<v Speaker 1>that point, who becomes the most self important fan base?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it Notre Dames or Michigan's Like, who is the

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<v Speaker 1>alpha in that conversation within the Big Ten, regardless of winning?

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<v Speaker 1>Just DNA wise, which fan base do you think is

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<v Speaker 1>the alpha in that conversation. I'm closer to this than

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<v Speaker 1>I am I think it's still Michigan. You think it's

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<v Speaker 1>still Michigan? Do I Do you think Notre Dame has

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<v Speaker 1>been humbled enough that there's a faction of the fan

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<v Speaker 1>base that is just sort of like, let's do something

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<v Speaker 1>before we go full Michigan.

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<v Speaker 2>You think that's I mean, it's just been forever since

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<v Speaker 2>Noname really wants something, honest.

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<v Speaker 1>So if we're still talking about the only meaningful independent

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<v Speaker 1>program in America, apologies to you know, yukon UMass recent ones.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm biased. Don't ask me. I can't in good faith

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<v Speaker 2>say it's Notre Dame over Michigan because I've read the

0:20:54.560 --> 0:20:57.800
<v Speaker 2>Michigan emails. I've been I've taken the mission arrows. For me,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the answers Michigan fair enough.

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<v Speaker 1>The other thing I enjoyed about this specific post the

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<v Speaker 1>second line. Then the Big Ten tells Trev Alberts, if

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<v Speaker 1>he gets the job done, he will be the next

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<v Speaker 1>commissioner of the Big Ten. Okay, so when you unpack this,

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<v Speaker 1>the Big Ten could just hire Trev Alberts to be

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<v Speaker 1>commissioner if they really wanted. Also, if the Big Ten

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<v Speaker 1>really wanted Texas, A and M, then they could invite Texas,

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<v Speaker 1>A and M. Now, obviously you got a back channel

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<v Speaker 1>at whatever, and you have to make an appeal. You

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<v Speaker 1>have to make it more appealing than what the SEC

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<v Speaker 1>is offering. But it's not like the one man who

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<v Speaker 1>controls this. Recent Nebraska Athletic director trev Alberts one thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been thinking a little bit about lately, just because

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<v Speaker 2>it seems as if there's this turf war over the

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<v Speaker 2>last few seasons between the Big Ten and the SEC,

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<v Speaker 2>both of which trying to wield their influence, whether to

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<v Speaker 2>shape the playoff or the way that revenue is distributed, nil,

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<v Speaker 2>you name it. These are really the two top dogs

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<v Speaker 2>in college football. This is no secret to anybody listening

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<v Speaker 2>to this. Of course, I wonder how far we are

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<v Speaker 2>away from some true turf war style stuff, where like

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<v Speaker 2>Tony Pettiti goes to try and steal Missouri, or Greg

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<v Speaker 2>Sankee decides he wants to try and pick someone off

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<v Speaker 2>from within the Big Ten and bring them down, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know who those targets would be, what that

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<v Speaker 2>would look like. I remember around the time that all

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<v Speaker 2>the Michigan controversy was circulating earlier, well I guess earlier

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<v Speaker 2>last season whenever it came out. I remember there were

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<v Speaker 2>some folks online talking like Michigan's going to join the SEC,

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<v Speaker 2>like that type of logic, right, playing into what's already

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<v Speaker 2>an ongoing battle between these two conferences. Maybe the next

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<v Speaker 2>front for the war is a school, like a Florida

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<v Speaker 2>State or a Notre Dame. I can't imagine Notre Dame

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<v Speaker 2>joined the SEC, but okay, maybe it's something else altogether.

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<v Speaker 2>But I feel like that's where the battle goes next.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's an SEC team jumping to

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<v Speaker 1>the Big Ten or vice versa, but certainly, with the

0:23:04.760 --> 0:23:09.680
<v Speaker 1>ACC's current affiliation with ESPN, it feels as if it

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<v Speaker 1>would be pretty major if the Big Ten were to

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<v Speaker 1>somehow aggressively go after an ACC team. So, whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, North Carolina, Florida State, Clemson, whoever. Right, that's

0:23:20.440 --> 0:23:24.760
<v Speaker 1>the sort of cold war right now. Well, and you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, we talk a lot about the Big Ten the SEC.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, I think that masks the fact that the

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<v Speaker 2>true turf war is between Fox and ESPN.

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<v Speaker 1>Correct, Oh, absolutely, it is right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not a conference thing as much as it is

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<v Speaker 2>a bank rolling thing behind the scenes in the networks,

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<v Speaker 2>which again, no secret to the people listening at home,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's just where we're at.

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<v Speaker 1>Here we go this.

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<v Speaker 2>One out on our good friends over at USC football

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<v Speaker 2>dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>This is so good. There's so much here that I've

0:23:51.200 --> 0:23:52.159
<v Speaker 1>seen continue.

0:23:52.880 --> 0:23:56.400
<v Speaker 2>How does Oregon keep getting away with this? They literally

0:23:56.440 --> 0:23:58.600
<v Speaker 2>have one hundred players. The Big Ten needs to step

0:23:58.600 --> 0:24:01.840
<v Speaker 2>in because this is crazy. No one has ever, no

0:24:01.840 --> 0:24:05.040
<v Speaker 2>one has even hit the portal. It's unfair to every

0:24:05.040 --> 0:24:08.280
<v Speaker 2>other team playing. Forget the aspect of scholarships. Why are

0:24:08.320 --> 0:24:12.400
<v Speaker 2>these kids going for this without leaving. They all must

0:24:12.440 --> 0:24:15.920
<v Speaker 2>be losers, losers with the apostrophe in the wrong place

0:24:15.960 --> 0:24:18.840
<v Speaker 2>of course, not even needed here. Really, they almost be

0:24:18.960 --> 0:24:22.480
<v Speaker 2>losers who have no plans of going to the NFL. Dan,

0:24:22.520 --> 0:24:25.440
<v Speaker 2>how is Oregon getting away with this? It does feel

0:24:25.480 --> 0:24:26.560
<v Speaker 2>like they have a thousand players.

0:24:26.640 --> 0:24:31.480
<v Speaker 1>They do have many players. I have no idea. They

0:24:31.880 --> 0:24:34.240
<v Speaker 1>are obviously appealing to people. People want to play for

0:24:34.320 --> 0:24:36.320
<v Speaker 1>Dan Lanning and be in Eugene, Oregon and play for

0:24:36.359 --> 0:24:38.520
<v Speaker 1>that program. I know that they're here's what I've heard

0:24:38.560 --> 0:24:42.840
<v Speaker 1>about Oregon. I've heard that they're so, they're they're collective,

0:24:42.840 --> 0:24:46.560
<v Speaker 1>they're whatever. Their NL situation is called Division Street, and

0:24:46.600 --> 0:24:50.040
<v Speaker 1>it's all Division Street. Okay, that like everything is under

0:24:50.080 --> 0:24:52.480
<v Speaker 1>one roof. Everybody seems to be aligned, and it's like

0:24:52.560 --> 0:24:57.359
<v Speaker 1>an actual business. It's an actual like they have a

0:24:57.560 --> 0:25:01.080
<v Speaker 1>roster of employees and they have people, marketing people and

0:25:01.080 --> 0:25:05.840
<v Speaker 1>branding people whatever. Like it's it's not slap de tie.

0:25:06.480 --> 0:25:08.680
<v Speaker 1>And so what I think is the case with a

0:25:08.760 --> 0:25:12.880
<v Speaker 1>number of places. I know, Ohio States obviously has come

0:25:12.920 --> 0:25:16.520
<v Speaker 1>a long way recently. I know, let's see, I think

0:25:16.560 --> 0:25:19.040
<v Speaker 1>Texas Louisville's is pretty big, Like there are the number

0:25:19.080 --> 0:25:21.639
<v Speaker 1>of schools and people that are more plugged into this

0:25:21.680 --> 0:25:24.760
<v Speaker 1>obviously know much more than I would. But from everything

0:25:24.760 --> 0:25:27.879
<v Speaker 1>I've heard, it's like there's lawyers, there's like there's an

0:25:27.920 --> 0:25:32.159
<v Speaker 1>actual structure to this nil situation at Oregon. And so

0:25:32.480 --> 0:25:35.520
<v Speaker 1>there are a number of places that like are raising money,

0:25:35.520 --> 0:25:39.240
<v Speaker 1>but there's like warring collectives and collapsing collectives, and I

0:25:39.280 --> 0:25:43.280
<v Speaker 1>know USC has a couple of them at least, and

0:25:44.119 --> 0:25:47.160
<v Speaker 1>USC fans right now, whether it's because of portal, whether

0:25:47.160 --> 0:25:50.399
<v Speaker 1>it's because of recruiting, they don't they can't imagine a

0:25:50.480 --> 0:25:54.000
<v Speaker 1>world in which Oregon, year over year over year over

0:25:54.119 --> 0:26:00.520
<v Speaker 1>year is out recruiting USC because in the fans minds

0:26:00.560 --> 0:26:04.240
<v Speaker 1>at USC, Like Oregon is just Phil Knight and they're

0:26:04.280 --> 0:26:07.200
<v Speaker 1>just you know, dropping bags at a helicopters on recruits

0:26:07.240 --> 0:26:11.800
<v Speaker 1>front door steps and everything and like, but the academics

0:26:11.840 --> 0:26:16.879
<v Speaker 1>at US, but the degree the connections at US. Okay,

0:26:19.280 --> 0:26:22.280
<v Speaker 1>there's there's a lot of the USC fans just through

0:26:22.280 --> 0:26:24.760
<v Speaker 1>like the message board geniuses account that I've seen, Like

0:26:25.119 --> 0:26:27.280
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot on USC boards that people are just

0:26:27.320 --> 0:26:31.399
<v Speaker 1>down bad. They're down bad watching Oregon recruit like this.

0:26:31.760 --> 0:26:34.600
<v Speaker 1>And I'll be the first one to tell you it's

0:26:34.640 --> 0:26:36.760
<v Speaker 1>all well and good to be excited in May tie.

0:26:38.119 --> 0:26:40.960
<v Speaker 1>Yet they just lost to Washington three times in two years.

0:26:41.280 --> 0:26:43.680
<v Speaker 1>And so Oregon has the roster it seems to break

0:26:43.720 --> 0:26:46.320
<v Speaker 1>through this year and they're building the depth that I

0:26:46.359 --> 0:26:48.480
<v Speaker 1>think they'll need if they are indeed a playoff caliber

0:26:48.520 --> 0:26:50.960
<v Speaker 1>team to win two, three, four game whatever it takes

0:26:51.000 --> 0:26:54.320
<v Speaker 1>in the College Football Playoff. They're building that depth. But

0:26:55.000 --> 0:26:57.480
<v Speaker 1>they're still Dan Lanning's still young, he's still only been

0:26:57.520 --> 0:27:01.159
<v Speaker 1>a head coach for a couple of years. And USC

0:27:01.359 --> 0:27:03.639
<v Speaker 1>fans what it was, it was the same line as

0:27:04.400 --> 0:27:07.679
<v Speaker 1>Jesse from breaking but we can't keep getting away with this. Yeah,

0:27:08.840 --> 0:27:12.200
<v Speaker 1>and they are in that headspace right now, they're losing

0:27:12.200 --> 0:27:14.200
<v Speaker 1>their minds. I think Colorado fans are losing their minds

0:27:14.240 --> 0:27:17.000
<v Speaker 1>a little bit with Oregon USC fan like that is,

0:27:17.200 --> 0:27:19.960
<v Speaker 1>that is a thing, and we'll see how you know,

0:27:20.119 --> 0:27:23.399
<v Speaker 1>new legislation and you know, schools taking paying players in

0:27:23.480 --> 0:27:26.679
<v Speaker 1>house and everything and sharing TV revenue, what role of

0:27:26.680 --> 0:27:30.000
<v Speaker 1>that plays. But right now, it seems Oregon's in a

0:27:30.040 --> 0:27:33.080
<v Speaker 1>good place. The money is there, the aggression on the

0:27:33.119 --> 0:27:36.399
<v Speaker 1>recruiting and portal trail is there, and they seem to

0:27:36.440 --> 0:27:38.000
<v Speaker 1>be in the heads of a lot of these West

0:27:38.040 --> 0:27:40.720
<v Speaker 1>Coast programs. We've decided, by the way, we're going to

0:27:40.760 --> 0:27:44.720
<v Speaker 1>that game on November the second, Oregon Michigan. Oregon Michigan. Yeah,

0:27:44.840 --> 0:27:45.440
<v Speaker 1>I can't wait.

0:27:45.840 --> 0:27:47.959
<v Speaker 2>November the second. We're going to go Dan Arbor go

0:27:48.000 --> 0:27:48.199
<v Speaker 2>to that.

0:27:48.240 --> 0:27:48.720
<v Speaker 1>Can't wait.

0:27:48.880 --> 0:27:50.760
<v Speaker 2>We'll figure it out later what that means for a

0:27:50.800 --> 0:27:53.760
<v Speaker 2>weekly recap episodes and whatnot. But it's been too long

0:27:53.760 --> 0:27:55.119
<v Speaker 2>since we were at a big game. We got to

0:27:55.160 --> 0:27:57.479
<v Speaker 2>make sure we yeah, we gotta go. Got to make

0:27:57.480 --> 0:28:00.479
<v Speaker 2>sure we get out and uh and enjoy. So if

0:28:00.480 --> 0:28:03.840
<v Speaker 2>you'd be in town, let us know otherwise. Yeah, how

0:28:03.920 --> 0:28:05.600
<v Speaker 2>do they keep getting away with it? I mean, look,

0:28:05.640 --> 0:28:09.399
<v Speaker 2>they're an IT program right now. They've got money, they've

0:28:09.400 --> 0:28:13.440
<v Speaker 2>got an excitable young coach, They've clearly got a ton

0:28:13.480 --> 0:28:16.960
<v Speaker 2>of talent. They're loaded to the teeth with talent. And

0:28:17.320 --> 0:28:20.399
<v Speaker 2>any school that's able to build depth in twenty twenty

0:28:20.400 --> 0:28:23.600
<v Speaker 2>four is like a really big deal, especially if you

0:28:23.640 --> 0:28:25.679
<v Speaker 2>are playing on the level of an Oregon, of a

0:28:25.720 --> 0:28:29.600
<v Speaker 2>Penn State, of a Notre Dame, of an Alabama. You know,

0:28:29.760 --> 0:28:32.719
<v Speaker 2>just throwing out examples of teams that are probably in

0:28:32.760 --> 0:28:35.399
<v Speaker 2>that playoff conversation. If you don't have that depth, you're

0:28:35.480 --> 0:28:38.040
<v Speaker 2>kind of screwed. The season is going to be longer.

0:28:38.520 --> 0:28:40.760
<v Speaker 2>It's harder than ever to build that depth because of

0:28:40.800 --> 0:28:43.120
<v Speaker 2>the portal, Oregans found a way to do it, either

0:28:43.240 --> 0:28:46.880
<v Speaker 2>via the NIL set up or otherwise. And so, you know,

0:28:46.880 --> 0:28:48.560
<v Speaker 2>at least to that point, I understand why I was

0:28:48.600 --> 0:28:51.320
<v Speaker 2>driving other programs crazy. I think I'd probably feel the

0:28:51.320 --> 0:28:52.800
<v Speaker 2>same if I root for a rival school.

0:28:53.040 --> 0:28:55.560
<v Speaker 1>So this past weekend it was Derek Harmon from Michigan

0:28:55.600 --> 0:28:57.880
<v Speaker 1>State the defensive tackle. So Michigan State lost. I think

0:28:57.880 --> 0:29:01.320
<v Speaker 1>it's Simeon Barrow to Miami, who was promising and a

0:29:01.360 --> 0:29:05.800
<v Speaker 1>good size deal, and Derek Harmon to Oregon who had

0:29:05.880 --> 0:29:08.320
<v Speaker 1>visited Oregon before when he entered and then went back

0:29:08.320 --> 0:29:12.479
<v Speaker 1>into the portal. In December, Oregon had a commitment from

0:29:12.640 --> 0:29:16.080
<v Speaker 1>a top kid in southern California from modern day, which

0:29:16.120 --> 0:29:18.840
<v Speaker 1>has long been a USC feeder program. And then a

0:29:18.960 --> 0:29:21.680
<v Speaker 1>kid who also from southern California who went to Alabama

0:29:21.720 --> 0:29:25.240
<v Speaker 1>and then entered the portal after spring and is headed

0:29:25.280 --> 0:29:29.080
<v Speaker 1>to Oregon. And so yeah, they are absolutely loading up,

0:29:29.120 --> 0:29:32.080
<v Speaker 1>and it's what it is, and this is what we know.

0:29:32.240 --> 0:29:35.880
<v Speaker 1>Ty loading up on the recruiting trail is great, but

0:29:35.960 --> 0:29:39.120
<v Speaker 1>there's the cautionary tales right that, whether it's USC with

0:29:39.240 --> 0:29:41.520
<v Speaker 1>Lane Kiff and Steve Sarkisian, whether it's Texas A and

0:29:41.640 --> 0:29:45.280
<v Speaker 1>M recently, whether it's whoever tennessee that like you start

0:29:45.320 --> 0:29:49.480
<v Speaker 1>stringing together those top classes, but without stringing together playoff berths,

0:29:50.040 --> 0:29:55.080
<v Speaker 1>Like it is fair right now to have enormous expectations

0:29:55.080 --> 0:29:57.080
<v Speaker 1>for Oregon and if they fall short, if they're going

0:29:57.120 --> 0:29:59.520
<v Speaker 1>nine to three, ten and two with this kind of

0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:01.880
<v Speaker 1>endit sure, with this kind of focus, with this kind

0:30:01.880 --> 0:30:05.320
<v Speaker 1>of attention, those are huge disappointments. That's on Dan Lanning,

0:30:05.400 --> 0:30:07.680
<v Speaker 1>that's on the you know, the front office whatever. So

0:30:08.560 --> 0:30:13.959
<v Speaker 1>with great sort of off season accomplishment should come great expectations,

0:30:14.000 --> 0:30:16.440
<v Speaker 1>and so they should be held to an enormously high

0:30:16.480 --> 0:30:18.880
<v Speaker 1>standard for building a roster like this.

0:30:20.120 --> 0:30:25.680
<v Speaker 2>Let's go to Michigan. Let's I think the Michigan legislature

0:30:25.720 --> 0:30:28.400
<v Speaker 2>needs to seriously think of using some of the rainy

0:30:28.480 --> 0:30:33.840
<v Speaker 2>day funds slash surplus tax revenue to give to Michigan

0:30:33.880 --> 0:30:37.320
<v Speaker 2>and Michigan State for nil money. It's not good for

0:30:37.360 --> 0:30:40.960
<v Speaker 2>state economy when both programs are struggling, you lose tourism revenue.

0:30:41.080 --> 0:30:45.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's true. Let me ask you this, two poverty programs,

0:30:45.040 --> 0:30:46.200
<v Speaker 1>Michigan and Michigan State.

0:30:46.280 --> 0:30:48.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is obviously a horrible idea. I appreciate the

0:30:48.760 --> 0:30:50.200
<v Speaker 2>spirit of it. This is a terrible idea.

0:30:50.440 --> 0:30:52.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. That said, if you put this on.

0:30:52.760 --> 0:30:56.120
<v Speaker 2>A ballot in the great State of Michigan, went this

0:30:56.240 --> 0:31:01.200
<v Speaker 2>November referendum, can we give some percentage of state tax

0:31:01.240 --> 0:31:03.480
<v Speaker 2>revenue to these two schools?

0:31:04.000 --> 0:31:08.320
<v Speaker 1>So at the in this very moment, schools are not

0:31:08.440 --> 0:31:13.520
<v Speaker 1>allowed to pay players. Right that you have affiliated anil situations,

0:31:13.720 --> 0:31:15.960
<v Speaker 1>and so you're going to go above the school. Above

0:31:15.960 --> 0:31:21.680
<v Speaker 1>the school stay com funded, federally funded institutions and appropriate

0:31:22.360 --> 0:31:25.560
<v Speaker 1>government funds. That's for this. I love that.

0:31:25.840 --> 0:31:27.520
<v Speaker 2>I love the idea. I love the idea. This is

0:31:27.560 --> 0:31:31.239
<v Speaker 2>creative if nothing more. Yeah, So, if we put this

0:31:31.440 --> 0:31:33.120
<v Speaker 2>on a ballot, and I want to hear from the

0:31:33.200 --> 0:31:39.200
<v Speaker 2>forballer hood, would it win, would it lose? What would

0:31:39.200 --> 0:31:44.080
<v Speaker 2>the split be of the final tally, I e. What

0:31:44.200 --> 0:31:45.760
<v Speaker 2>percentage of people would vote yes.

0:31:48.240 --> 0:31:50.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it would pass. I'm not saying it

0:31:50.400 --> 0:31:53.160
<v Speaker 1>would pass. It's not legal. Let's be clear, it's not legal.

0:31:53.280 --> 0:31:55.560
<v Speaker 2>But if you put this on about what percentage of

0:31:55.560 --> 0:31:56.920
<v Speaker 2>people in Michigan vote yes.

0:31:57.560 --> 0:31:59.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it means enough in state. I think

0:31:59.680 --> 0:32:02.080
<v Speaker 1>if you maybe went to a couple sec states it

0:32:02.240 --> 0:32:05.400
<v Speaker 1>just means more areas, then perhaps it would be a

0:32:05.440 --> 0:32:08.479
<v Speaker 1>little bit more successful. But I don't think there are

0:32:08.600 --> 0:32:12.040
<v Speaker 1>enough people within the state of Michigan who look around

0:32:12.080 --> 0:32:15.080
<v Speaker 1>them and say, we could use a little bit less

0:32:15.080 --> 0:32:19.240
<v Speaker 1>on our roads and our schools and our emergency services

0:32:19.640 --> 0:32:23.320
<v Speaker 1>so that Michigan and Michigan State could retain their roster

0:32:23.840 --> 0:32:26.000
<v Speaker 1>via nil. I don't think it would mean enough.

0:32:26.040 --> 0:32:29.480
<v Speaker 2>Look, you say that, yeah, but it's like every other

0:32:29.560 --> 0:32:32.560
<v Speaker 2>year that somebody tries to push through a publicly funded

0:32:32.600 --> 0:32:35.600
<v Speaker 2>stadium for a pro team. That's true, all right, And

0:32:36.280 --> 0:32:40.240
<v Speaker 2>in those cases, in the cases of Olympic stadium builds

0:32:40.360 --> 0:32:43.760
<v Speaker 2>or any of that stuff, the return on investment is

0:32:43.800 --> 0:32:46.800
<v Speaker 2>not usually there, not by a long shot, but a

0:32:46.880 --> 0:32:49.080
<v Speaker 2>time and again, it is still sold to the general

0:32:49.120 --> 0:32:51.040
<v Speaker 2>populace is something that would be good for them, for

0:32:51.080 --> 0:32:54.640
<v Speaker 2>the local economy, for jobs, for whatever. Data doesn't really

0:32:54.640 --> 0:32:55.160
<v Speaker 2>suggest that.

0:32:55.200 --> 0:32:57.680
<v Speaker 1>But okay, I was going to say, at least, like

0:32:57.760 --> 0:33:01.960
<v Speaker 1>the selling point with a stadium, we're revitalizing downtown and

0:33:02.000 --> 0:33:07.120
<v Speaker 1>it's a whole experience. But like keeping a linebacker in

0:33:07.240 --> 0:33:10.200
<v Speaker 1>town who might be getting portal interest from bigger schools,

0:33:10.360 --> 0:33:12.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, Michigan State would be losing a defensive lineman

0:33:12.720 --> 0:33:15.600
<v Speaker 1>again to like Oregon or Miami. Like, there's not a

0:33:15.640 --> 0:33:18.360
<v Speaker 1>lot of evidence that that is going to stimulate the

0:33:18.360 --> 0:33:19.520
<v Speaker 1>East Lansing economy.

0:33:19.560 --> 0:33:22.560
<v Speaker 2>Would this get to twenty percent? Would twenty percent of

0:33:22.560 --> 0:33:24.000
<v Speaker 2>the voting public vote for this.

0:33:23.960 --> 0:33:25.760
<v Speaker 1>No, just because I don't think enough of the voting

0:33:25.760 --> 0:33:31.080
<v Speaker 1>public understands anil and like, I just don't think it's

0:33:31.400 --> 0:33:34.840
<v Speaker 1>fifteen percent fifteen percent vote I think it would. I

0:33:34.880 --> 0:33:37.240
<v Speaker 1>have no idea seven percent. I will say seventy percent

0:33:37.320 --> 0:33:40.000
<v Speaker 1>under ten. Well, so you have to take the people

0:33:40.040 --> 0:33:44.200
<v Speaker 1>that understand NIL, understand collectives understand you know where the

0:33:44.280 --> 0:33:47.680
<v Speaker 1>sport is right now. So you have whatever percentage of

0:33:47.680 --> 0:33:50.720
<v Speaker 1>fans that is, and then you have to find the

0:33:50.760 --> 0:33:54.160
<v Speaker 1>percentage of those people who say, yes, we have reached

0:33:54.200 --> 0:33:58.360
<v Speaker 1>this point where we no longer have confidence in donors

0:33:58.400 --> 0:34:01.480
<v Speaker 1>and collectives whatever to do this. So this is the

0:34:01.600 --> 0:34:05.560
<v Speaker 1>last resort answer. And also, like, is their enthusiasm in

0:34:05.600 --> 0:34:07.840
<v Speaker 1>the Michigan fan base right now for this after a

0:34:07.920 --> 0:34:11.640
<v Speaker 1>national championship, Like, so you're already probably losing a bunch

0:34:11.680 --> 0:34:13.960
<v Speaker 1>of Michigan people. You're already probably losing a bunch of

0:34:14.040 --> 0:34:18.120
<v Speaker 1>Michigan people who think NIL stuff is unbecoming and wrong

0:34:18.200 --> 0:34:22.040
<v Speaker 1>for the sport. And you know, the capital are right

0:34:22.160 --> 0:34:24.840
<v Speaker 1>way of doing things. So you're losing a ton of

0:34:24.880 --> 0:34:28.040
<v Speaker 1>Michigan people already, Michigan State people, this is a fan base.

0:34:28.080 --> 0:34:30.319
<v Speaker 1>They've been to the playoff, didn't score, but been to

0:34:30.320 --> 0:34:34.560
<v Speaker 1>the playoff. That's correct, I fact checked me on that time.

0:34:37.080 --> 0:34:40.160
<v Speaker 1>But yes, you have Michigan State people who now are

0:34:40.239 --> 0:34:42.680
<v Speaker 1>looking at the success of Michigan, who are looking at

0:34:42.680 --> 0:34:45.560
<v Speaker 1>the continued growth of Ohio State, who are feeling lost

0:34:45.560 --> 0:34:47.800
<v Speaker 1>in the sea of college football and in the big ten.

0:34:47.880 --> 0:34:49.680
<v Speaker 2>Man, you can get ten percent of the people to

0:34:49.760 --> 0:34:53.200
<v Speaker 2>vote for anything. I'll go, well, then.

0:34:53.080 --> 0:34:55.000
<v Speaker 1>You're talking about you also have people voters in Michigan

0:34:55.040 --> 0:34:57.440
<v Speaker 1>who went to neither school and don't care about football

0:34:57.680 --> 0:34:59.200
<v Speaker 1>or Michigan or Michigan State at all.

0:34:59.520 --> 0:35:02.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you can get ten percent to vote for anything.

0:35:02.760 --> 0:35:07.160
<v Speaker 2>You need clever marketing and clever campaigning. You can get

0:35:07.160 --> 0:35:10.440
<v Speaker 2>ten percent of people to vote for anything. Okay, So

0:35:10.520 --> 0:35:14.160
<v Speaker 2>I guess my specific question the for baller hood over

0:35:14.239 --> 0:35:16.200
<v Speaker 2>under ten percent? If you actually put this on a

0:35:16.239 --> 0:35:20.080
<v Speaker 2>ballot come November you're saying under I'll say, I mean

0:35:20.080 --> 0:35:22.080
<v Speaker 2>it might just get the ten percent, but I'm saying

0:35:22.120 --> 0:35:28.919
<v Speaker 2>over right. Okay, great question though, thank you. Okay, where

0:35:29.000 --> 0:35:29.920
<v Speaker 2>we want to go next? Here?

0:35:30.000 --> 0:35:33.000
<v Speaker 1>Let me see, do you want to go to Taylor Swift?

0:35:33.040 --> 0:35:34.879
<v Speaker 1>Do you want to go to Swingers? Where are we going?

0:35:35.160 --> 0:35:38.880
<v Speaker 1>Let's do Let's do Colorado? Okay, Okay, now in my

0:35:39.280 --> 0:35:40.600
<v Speaker 1>nobuff November and May.

0:35:40.800 --> 0:35:43.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, full disclosure, Dan is on a bit of a

0:35:43.280 --> 0:35:45.000
<v Speaker 2>Colorado sabbatical at present.

0:35:45.280 --> 0:35:46.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm on a diet.

0:35:46.880 --> 0:35:49.520
<v Speaker 2>You're taking the month of May off from Colorado football.

0:35:49.560 --> 0:35:53.239
<v Speaker 2>From Dion Sanders from coach prime. Believe me, there will

0:35:53.239 --> 0:35:55.560
<v Speaker 2>be plenty of opportunity the rest of the year to

0:35:55.680 --> 0:35:58.880
<v Speaker 2>catch up whatever you miss. But for the purposes of

0:35:58.920 --> 0:36:01.240
<v Speaker 2>this episode, just because we like this post from Buff

0:36:01.239 --> 0:36:06.400
<v Speaker 2>Stampede s two s Buff says, I hate to say

0:36:06.400 --> 0:36:09.120
<v Speaker 2>this because their fan base is filled with d bags,

0:36:09.520 --> 0:36:11.880
<v Speaker 2>but I feel like we might be in a similar

0:36:11.920 --> 0:36:16.799
<v Speaker 2>situation to twenty twenty two TCU. Those fans talked like

0:36:16.840 --> 0:36:20.040
<v Speaker 2>they were Alabama rolling into Boulder on Opening Night. They

0:36:20.120 --> 0:36:23.040
<v Speaker 2>knew something that nobody else really knew, and everybody was

0:36:23.120 --> 0:36:26.400
<v Speaker 2>judging them off their previous season. We know we have

0:36:26.600 --> 0:36:31.680
<v Speaker 2>quality and depth, do they? Not sure? But nobody else

0:36:31.719 --> 0:36:36.080
<v Speaker 2>is paying attention. Also probably not true. We are absolutely

0:36:36.120 --> 0:36:41.440
<v Speaker 2>going to surprise people this year. Okay, that is the

0:36:41.480 --> 0:36:44.080
<v Speaker 2>full post. Dan, Okay, So should we let's talk about

0:36:44.120 --> 0:36:45.160
<v Speaker 2>the TCU.

0:36:44.719 --> 0:36:45.719
<v Speaker 1>Element of this, Yes?

0:36:45.760 --> 0:36:46.080
<v Speaker 2>Please?

0:36:46.640 --> 0:36:50.520
<v Speaker 1>Okay? Do we think so TCU coming off of twenty

0:36:50.600 --> 0:36:55.000
<v Speaker 1>twenty one in this instant correct? So new coach, new

0:36:55.040 --> 0:36:58.239
<v Speaker 1>coach and Sunny Dyke's who had I think success at

0:36:58.280 --> 0:37:04.319
<v Speaker 1>SMU against TCU TCU in twenty twenty one? Okay, So

0:37:04.360 --> 0:37:07.399
<v Speaker 1>they go five and seven. Gary Patterson leaves a few

0:37:07.400 --> 0:37:10.520
<v Speaker 1>games into the season, leaving them with an interim situation.

0:37:11.239 --> 0:37:15.879
<v Speaker 1>TCU loses to Iowa State forty eight fourteen to end

0:37:16.000 --> 0:37:19.120
<v Speaker 1>the twenty twenty one season. They lose to Oklahoma State

0:37:19.280 --> 0:37:22.719
<v Speaker 1>on the road. Two weeks before that, sixty three to seventeen,

0:37:24.160 --> 0:37:26.279
<v Speaker 1>they beat Baylor. That was like a Chandler Morris game.

0:37:26.320 --> 0:37:29.760
<v Speaker 1>I want to say, he comes in in relief beat Baylor,

0:37:29.800 --> 0:37:31.680
<v Speaker 1>who was at the time number twelve in the country.

0:37:32.360 --> 0:37:36.040
<v Speaker 1>There is not a single reasonable TCU fan who entered

0:37:36.040 --> 0:37:39.520
<v Speaker 1>into the twenty twenty two season feeling good, real good,

0:37:39.600 --> 0:37:44.520
<v Speaker 1>real confident. Everybody was surprised at TCU less so as

0:37:44.560 --> 0:37:47.040
<v Speaker 1>the season went on, less so as they saw Max

0:37:47.120 --> 0:37:50.480
<v Speaker 1>Duggan become an absolute warrior for the Frogs. But nobody

0:37:50.560 --> 0:37:53.719
<v Speaker 1>went into that Colorado game. Tc wins again thirty eight

0:37:53.840 --> 0:37:56.799
<v Speaker 1>thirteen and Chandler Morris gets hurt in that game. So

0:37:56.920 --> 0:38:00.640
<v Speaker 1>nobody went into that season thinking Chandler Moore Trus is

0:38:00.680 --> 0:38:04.759
<v Speaker 1>our guy and was proven right because he started the

0:38:04.800 --> 0:38:09.040
<v Speaker 1>season as the starter in twenty twenty two. So I

0:38:09.080 --> 0:38:11.840
<v Speaker 1>got bad news. I think this is a misguided message

0:38:11.920 --> 0:38:14.560
<v Speaker 1>for post time. I'm gonna be honest with you. I

0:38:14.600 --> 0:38:16.879
<v Speaker 1>think it's a little misguided. I don't think it's it's

0:38:16.920 --> 0:38:18.160
<v Speaker 1>truly apples to apples.

0:38:19.080 --> 0:38:24.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't The quality and depth argument on the Colorado

0:38:24.480 --> 0:38:26.880
<v Speaker 2>side of this is also a bit of a question.

0:38:27.719 --> 0:38:28.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:38:28.520 --> 0:38:33.200
<v Speaker 2>Now, look, I happen to think despite the news stories

0:38:33.200 --> 0:38:35.239
<v Speaker 2>that are out there, I believe, at least I want

0:38:35.239 --> 0:38:37.960
<v Speaker 2>to believe that Colorado is going to be better this season. Okay,

0:38:38.000 --> 0:38:39.680
<v Speaker 2>they have to and they have to be better. I

0:38:39.680 --> 0:38:42.240
<v Speaker 2>think they know where their deficiencies are, and they added

0:38:42.239 --> 0:38:46.360
<v Speaker 2>some beef upfront on the line offensively, you know, we'll

0:38:46.400 --> 0:38:48.600
<v Speaker 2>wait and see. They lost Dylan Edwards, like it, there's

0:38:48.640 --> 0:38:50.359
<v Speaker 2>a lot in flux just given the way.

0:38:50.320 --> 0:38:52.880
<v Speaker 1>Whatever Dan Hayden. Yeah, there's players there.

0:38:52.920 --> 0:38:55.000
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot going on, but there's still a lot there,

0:38:55.000 --> 0:38:58.040
<v Speaker 2>so I think they'll be better. The depth side of

0:38:58.040 --> 0:39:00.960
<v Speaker 2>the argument, you lose me because I don't know if

0:39:01.000 --> 0:39:03.200
<v Speaker 2>there's a whole lot of depth at Colorado at this point.

0:39:03.280 --> 0:39:05.360
<v Speaker 2>It seems like it's very paper thin, which is a

0:39:05.400 --> 0:39:07.600
<v Speaker 2>problem later in the year. But okay, that's just me.

0:39:08.160 --> 0:39:10.800
<v Speaker 2>I have been paying attention. It seems like that's the problem.

0:39:11.080 --> 0:39:14.319
<v Speaker 2>I don't disagree that they may surprise some people this year.

0:39:14.360 --> 0:39:17.359
<v Speaker 2>I'd like to see that happen for their sake. I

0:39:17.400 --> 0:39:20.040
<v Speaker 2>also agree, though, that this is a little bit misguided. Dan.

0:39:20.760 --> 0:39:24.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't see TCU when I look at Colorado this year.

0:39:25.560 --> 0:39:32.000
<v Speaker 2>I see I see Texas Tech twelve years ago, when

0:39:32.000 --> 0:39:33.799
<v Speaker 2>they were playing one side of the ball and not

0:39:33.880 --> 0:39:36.359
<v Speaker 2>the other, and we kept waiting for them to break

0:39:36.400 --> 0:39:38.160
<v Speaker 2>through and be a little bit more well rounded, and

0:39:38.239 --> 0:39:40.880
<v Speaker 2>it just kind of never happened. They were a fun offense,

0:39:41.320 --> 0:39:43.680
<v Speaker 2>they weren't a good defense. Their games were more than

0:39:43.719 --> 0:39:47.680
<v Speaker 2>not shootouts, and that was fun, that was entertaining. But

0:39:47.880 --> 0:39:49.960
<v Speaker 2>you didn't go into those games expecting that Tech was

0:39:50.000 --> 0:39:51.680
<v Speaker 2>going to come away as like a ten and two team.

0:39:51.719 --> 0:39:53.799
<v Speaker 2>You expected seven and five, six and six, and that's

0:39:53.840 --> 0:39:56.920
<v Speaker 2>often what you got. Now, maybe I'm selling Tech short.

0:39:57.120 --> 0:39:59.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm not meaning to do so, but you get the point.

0:39:59.520 --> 0:40:03.360
<v Speaker 2>That is what Colorado is right now, and I will

0:40:03.800 --> 0:40:06.160
<v Speaker 2>happily be proven wrong on that. But until we see

0:40:06.160 --> 0:40:08.799
<v Speaker 2>it on the field, you know there's a lot of

0:40:08.840 --> 0:40:10.640
<v Speaker 2>ground they need to make up. Dan, from what we

0:40:10.680 --> 0:40:13.160
<v Speaker 2>saw last season, this is not a well rounded team.

0:40:13.200 --> 0:40:16.440
<v Speaker 2>They certainly have some really exciting pieces. Shador is going

0:40:16.520 --> 0:40:18.880
<v Speaker 2>to be a first round pick. Travis Hunter is going

0:40:18.960 --> 0:40:21.680
<v Speaker 2>to be a top five pick. There are clearly guys

0:40:21.680 --> 0:40:25.160
<v Speaker 2>in this team are very, very talented, but I gotta

0:40:25.160 --> 0:40:27.920
<v Speaker 2>stop short of anything more because I want to see

0:40:27.960 --> 0:40:30.400
<v Speaker 2>in reality when they actually get there out on the field,

0:40:30.520 --> 0:40:34.600
<v Speaker 2>what this off season rebuild, transfer, rebuild, what you know,

0:40:34.680 --> 0:40:36.400
<v Speaker 2>whatever has done for that roster.

0:40:36.880 --> 0:40:42.120
<v Speaker 1>Okay, here's the line from this post that I keep

0:40:42.160 --> 0:40:45.279
<v Speaker 1>going back to when I read a S two s Buff, Yes,

0:40:45.360 --> 0:40:48.680
<v Speaker 1>yes to us Buff. Those fans talk like they were

0:40:48.719 --> 0:40:53.799
<v Speaker 1>Alabama rolling into Boulder on Opening Night? All right. In

0:40:53.840 --> 0:40:56.480
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and five, Gary Barnett was after the two

0:40:56.480 --> 0:40:58.840
<v Speaker 1>thousand and five season, was let go after going seven

0:40:58.880 --> 0:41:02.400
<v Speaker 1>and six. Okay, fact check me on that seven and

0:41:02.440 --> 0:41:05.839
<v Speaker 1>six seven and five regular season, finished first in the

0:41:05.880 --> 0:41:09.640
<v Speaker 1>Big twelve North, lost in the Champs Sports Bowl. Okay,

0:41:09.960 --> 0:41:13.560
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and five, simpler time, pre solid verbal. Do

0:41:13.600 --> 0:41:17.120
<v Speaker 1>you know how many full winning seasons Colorado has had

0:41:17.160 --> 0:41:21.480
<v Speaker 1>since going seven and five regular season that year? One?

0:41:21.800 --> 0:41:25.520
<v Speaker 1>Two one? So do you know who rolls into Boulder

0:41:25.600 --> 0:41:31.360
<v Speaker 1>thinking they're everything and they're gonna smoke Colorado? Every team,

0:41:31.719 --> 0:41:35.719
<v Speaker 1>every team for the last nineteen years, has rolled into

0:41:35.760 --> 0:41:41.560
<v Speaker 1>Colorado confidently because all Colorado does is year after year

0:41:41.920 --> 0:41:46.360
<v Speaker 1>after year after year, coach after coach after coach is

0:41:46.520 --> 0:41:51.200
<v Speaker 1>throw up ls. Okay, they're a losing program who does

0:41:51.320 --> 0:41:56.680
<v Speaker 1>almost exclusively loses college football seasons. Okay, So rolling into

0:41:56.719 --> 0:41:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Boulder thinking you're Alabama is not limited to the twenty

0:42:00.080 --> 0:42:06.320
<v Speaker 1>twenty two TCU squad by at Oregon, USC, UCLA, Washington State, Arizona,

0:42:06.360 --> 0:42:09.719
<v Speaker 1>Arizona State, Utah, New Big Twelve, to whatever whoever it is,

0:42:10.239 --> 0:42:14.200
<v Speaker 1>you should roll into Boulder thinking you have an excellent

0:42:14.239 --> 0:42:18.160
<v Speaker 1>shot to win, because recent history suggests, no matter who

0:42:18.160 --> 0:42:22.319
<v Speaker 1>the coach is, people roll into Boulder and win. So

0:42:22.400 --> 0:42:26.399
<v Speaker 1>TCU fans, even coming off of a disastrous season, even

0:42:26.440 --> 0:42:28.440
<v Speaker 1>with a new coach, to who they would have no idea,

0:42:28.480 --> 0:42:30.560
<v Speaker 1>even with the new starting quarterback, even with all that

0:42:30.680 --> 0:42:35.120
<v Speaker 1>was new, they're not douchebags for doing that. That's history

0:42:35.160 --> 0:42:37.600
<v Speaker 1>suggests that that's the actual correct move.

0:42:37.719 --> 0:42:39.879
<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say this is not a Dion argu

0:42:40.040 --> 0:42:44.680
<v Speaker 2>or not even mentioning no name before this, because the

0:42:44.719 --> 0:42:45.800
<v Speaker 2>proofs kind of in the pudding.

0:42:45.840 --> 0:42:48.160
<v Speaker 1>This is also pre Dion right that. Yeah, it's Carl

0:42:48.239 --> 0:42:49.200
<v Speaker 1>Durrell's final season.

0:42:49.360 --> 0:42:51.799
<v Speaker 2>It's been bad program for a while, and that's why

0:42:51.840 --> 0:42:53.520
<v Speaker 2>I actually kind of commend them for going out to

0:42:53.520 --> 0:42:55.799
<v Speaker 2>get deon. You need to kick up some dust. If

0:42:55.800 --> 0:42:57.480
<v Speaker 2>you've got to try something different. You've been trying the

0:42:57.520 --> 0:43:00.879
<v Speaker 2>same thing time and again it hasn't worked. I don't

0:43:00.880 --> 0:43:02.759
<v Speaker 2>hate the movie to get done. I still don't. I mean,

0:43:02.760 --> 0:43:05.239
<v Speaker 2>the press hasn't been great. But let's give him more time.

0:43:05.280 --> 0:43:06.640
<v Speaker 2>See what he can do if he's trying to do

0:43:06.680 --> 0:43:09.759
<v Speaker 2>this a little bit differently. Yeah, there is a lot

0:43:09.760 --> 0:43:12.399
<v Speaker 2>though that I would argue in this message board post

0:43:12.400 --> 0:43:13.160
<v Speaker 2>to say the least.

0:43:13.200 --> 0:43:18.160
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Yeah, but I love the idea, and I God

0:43:18.200 --> 0:43:21.080
<v Speaker 1>bless Colorado fans. They've been through a lot. I love

0:43:21.160 --> 0:43:24.759
<v Speaker 1>the idea of how dare you come to our town,

0:43:25.120 --> 0:43:29.520
<v Speaker 1>in our stadium and feel confidently that you are going

0:43:29.560 --> 0:43:32.480
<v Speaker 1>to win a college football game of all things?

0:43:33.120 --> 0:43:33.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:43:33.400 --> 0:43:34.040
<v Speaker 1>That that's great?

0:43:34.680 --> 0:43:34.960
<v Speaker 2>All right?

0:43:35.000 --> 0:43:37.600
<v Speaker 1>Where do we want to go next? Here? And that's

0:43:37.600 --> 0:43:40.440
<v Speaker 1>with all due respect to Laviska Chanal, who I love Viscashanal.

0:43:40.520 --> 0:43:44.279
<v Speaker 1>We love Leaviska chan Taylor, what's the song? What's this

0:43:44.320 --> 0:43:45.920
<v Speaker 1>message board on the Taylor Swift one?

0:43:46.680 --> 0:43:46.839
<v Speaker 2>Uh?

0:43:48.480 --> 0:43:50.879
<v Speaker 1>It's c B. I don't know why you think cougar board?

0:43:50.920 --> 0:43:51.560
<v Speaker 1>Is this? BYU?

0:43:52.040 --> 0:43:55.000
<v Speaker 2>Taylor Swift? Tortured posts apartment. I feel bad for those

0:43:55.040 --> 0:43:58.319
<v Speaker 2>poets that had to listen to this garbage album and

0:43:58.400 --> 0:44:00.600
<v Speaker 2>try to give it a positive review. I've heard four

0:44:00.600 --> 0:44:02.960
<v Speaker 2>songs on the album enough to know it's absolute crap.

0:44:03.000 --> 0:44:05.319
<v Speaker 2>She's not an artist. At some point she may have been,

0:44:05.800 --> 0:44:07.640
<v Speaker 2>but as of now she has nothing of value to

0:44:07.640 --> 0:44:10.200
<v Speaker 2>contribute to the world, and the songs reflected it's trash

0:44:10.239 --> 0:44:13.319
<v Speaker 2>of the lowest type. There's a lot of animosity here

0:44:13.360 --> 0:44:15.080
<v Speaker 2>from somebody named Mark Spector think.

0:44:15.160 --> 0:44:18.040
<v Speaker 1>By the way, more up votes on this board than down.

0:44:18.280 --> 0:44:22.040
<v Speaker 1>Yea four thumbs up, five happy faces, three eye rolls,

0:44:22.080 --> 0:44:25.040
<v Speaker 1>and one thumbs down. So right now, the score nine

0:44:25.040 --> 0:44:27.920
<v Speaker 1>to four in favor of Mark. Of his view on

0:44:28.000 --> 0:44:28.960
<v Speaker 1>Taylor Swift a bit.

0:44:28.840 --> 0:44:31.040
<v Speaker 2>Of a mixed review on the album. I have not

0:44:31.120 --> 0:44:37.000
<v Speaker 2>seen Mark's write up anywhere online. I haven't seen his

0:44:37.040 --> 0:44:38.319
<v Speaker 2>official review you.

0:44:38.360 --> 0:44:40.279
<v Speaker 1>But this is that like off topic thing, right, This

0:44:40.360 --> 0:44:43.080
<v Speaker 1>is the people simple sharing with their community.

0:44:43.160 --> 0:44:46.000
<v Speaker 2>Have you listened to the album like three or four songs?

0:44:46.160 --> 0:44:49.920
<v Speaker 1>And I like Taylor Swift. I've listened a few songs

0:44:49.960 --> 0:44:51.920
<v Speaker 1>just because I don't really sit and listen to anything

0:44:52.080 --> 0:44:54.520
<v Speaker 1>album wise. I listened to whatever Spotify tells me to

0:44:54.600 --> 0:44:58.319
<v Speaker 1>on my Discover Weekly or whatever my day list, and

0:44:58.360 --> 0:45:00.359
<v Speaker 1>then whatever my kids want to listen to in the car, which,

0:45:00.360 --> 0:45:03.720
<v Speaker 1>by the way, is now Taylor Swift creeping into the rotation,

0:45:03.880 --> 0:45:07.560
<v Speaker 1>the Kailer entering the culture five and three. Yeah, whoa damn,

0:45:07.640 --> 0:45:10.359
<v Speaker 1>it's right now. The rotation that of the songs they

0:45:10.480 --> 0:45:17.400
<v Speaker 1>like is cruel, Summer okay, blank space, shake it Off style.

0:45:17.960 --> 0:45:23.279
<v Speaker 1>We're I'm probably shaping their interest via nineteen eighty nine,

0:45:23.360 --> 0:45:25.600
<v Speaker 1>which is where I still go back to it, Goode

0:45:25.680 --> 0:45:30.360
<v Speaker 1>t Swift. I haven't been able to get into the

0:45:30.560 --> 0:45:34.879
<v Speaker 1>like last five six, seven years, like Folklore, Midnight's all

0:45:34.880 --> 0:45:36.960
<v Speaker 1>that kind of stuff. This is this is a.

0:45:36.920 --> 0:45:39.160
<v Speaker 2>Point of contention between Solid Life Kate and I.

0:45:39.560 --> 0:45:42.960
<v Speaker 1>But I'll say, and I understand why. I'll say, I

0:45:42.960 --> 0:45:47.360
<v Speaker 1>don't think it's bad. It just I haven't attached myself

0:45:47.360 --> 0:45:49.279
<v Speaker 1>to it. I listened to it, and I think that's

0:45:49.280 --> 0:45:51.759
<v Speaker 1>pretty good, but I don't come back to it, and

0:45:51.800 --> 0:45:54.760
<v Speaker 1>so I don't know whatever it does or doesn't resonate

0:45:54.920 --> 0:45:58.080
<v Speaker 1>like I think it's pretty good, I just I don't know.

0:45:58.120 --> 0:46:00.879
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you just go back to the earlier because that's

0:46:01.400 --> 0:46:03.600
<v Speaker 1>what got you into that music in the first place.

0:46:04.000 --> 0:46:05.920
<v Speaker 2>This could be maybe.

0:46:06.000 --> 0:46:07.680
<v Speaker 1>A lot of moody Taylor in that stretch.

0:46:07.800 --> 0:46:10.360
<v Speaker 2>This could possibly be the most contentious part of my

0:46:10.400 --> 0:46:14.160
<v Speaker 2>marriage right now. Yeah, and by that, it's not a

0:46:14.200 --> 0:46:16.879
<v Speaker 2>tailor thing. It's a music thing.

0:46:18.040 --> 0:46:18.439
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:46:18.800 --> 0:46:21.759
<v Speaker 2>My taste in music. I like cheap pop music that

0:46:21.880 --> 0:46:24.160
<v Speaker 2>makes me bop my head a little bit.

0:46:24.239 --> 0:46:25.399
<v Speaker 1>Big train guy over here.

0:46:25.560 --> 0:46:30.760
<v Speaker 2>Love train, Yeah, love the train tracks, But those types

0:46:30.800 --> 0:46:35.120
<v Speaker 2>of jams, that's my thing. Solidwife Kate a little bit more.

0:46:35.120 --> 0:46:37.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure she wouldn't mind me saying this. Much more

0:46:37.640 --> 0:46:43.760
<v Speaker 2>into the deeper emotional, sleepier tunes that are out there. Yeah,

0:46:44.040 --> 0:46:47.799
<v Speaker 2>the more recent t Swift, more recent love folklore and

0:46:47.880 --> 0:46:51.000
<v Speaker 2>whatever more midnights and now this when she's all into it.

0:46:51.480 --> 0:46:55.840
<v Speaker 2>We've been listening to it NonStop. So it's definitely not

0:46:56.000 --> 0:46:59.399
<v Speaker 2>my favorite that I've heard. I've listened to it enough

0:46:59.480 --> 0:47:01.719
<v Speaker 2>though that some of the tracks have grown on me,

0:47:02.719 --> 0:47:04.920
<v Speaker 2>and I do think it's pretty good. This is probably

0:47:04.960 --> 0:47:06.680
<v Speaker 2>Mark Spector went a little bit overboard with this.

0:47:06.880 --> 0:47:08.680
<v Speaker 1>Maybe can I ask can I ask you where my

0:47:08.840 --> 0:47:12.000
<v Speaker 1>head has gone recently? Oh, with regard to our dear

0:47:12.040 --> 0:47:15.640
<v Speaker 1>friend Taylor Swift, I hope it works out with her

0:47:15.640 --> 0:47:16.400
<v Speaker 1>in charge.

0:47:16.600 --> 0:47:19.160
<v Speaker 2>Dear friend Taylor Swift. Yeah, she's been on the podcast

0:47:19.160 --> 0:47:22.200
<v Speaker 2>many times. She's from Pa, right from like, yeah.

0:47:22.040 --> 0:47:26.840
<v Speaker 1>Twenty minutes down the road. Yeah, so she's local to you. Yeah.

0:47:26.560 --> 0:47:29.879
<v Speaker 1>Uh so I'm rooting for her and Travis Kelcey as

0:47:29.920 --> 0:47:32.680
<v Speaker 1>I have nothing. He just seems like a likable dude

0:47:32.680 --> 0:47:37.319
<v Speaker 1>to me, and so I'm worried what happens if they

0:47:37.360 --> 0:47:41.239
<v Speaker 1>don't make it. I'm worried if he's gonna because he

0:47:41.320 --> 0:47:43.439
<v Speaker 1>just seems like a very earnest guy. I don't know him.

0:47:43.520 --> 0:47:46.440
<v Speaker 1>Maybe he's not. He seems like a pretty earnest guy. Like,

0:47:46.480 --> 0:47:48.919
<v Speaker 1>what's gonna happen to his game? I know he's older now,

0:47:49.440 --> 0:47:52.200
<v Speaker 1>he's sort of an elder statesman of an NFL tight end,

0:47:52.680 --> 0:47:55.960
<v Speaker 1>But like, is she gonna? Is she gonna trash him?

0:47:56.400 --> 0:48:01.040
<v Speaker 1>And maybe he'll deserve it if it goes sideways, Our

0:48:01.080 --> 0:48:02.919
<v Speaker 1>dear Travis. Kate.

0:48:03.040 --> 0:48:06.000
<v Speaker 2>Kate tells me that she didn't really trash the last guy.

0:48:06.480 --> 0:48:09.839
<v Speaker 2>Oh really, she didn't really? Well, two guys, I don't

0:48:09.840 --> 0:48:13.759
<v Speaker 2>know one. Maybe Kate just doesn't fully know how to decipher. No, Well,

0:48:13.800 --> 0:48:16.839
<v Speaker 2>she she knows way better than I do. Me too,

0:48:16.880 --> 0:48:19.480
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, she kind of trashed one, but didn't trash

0:48:19.520 --> 0:48:22.520
<v Speaker 2>another guy that folks were expecting she might trash more.

0:48:22.800 --> 0:48:24.400
<v Speaker 2>I wish I can remember the name. I caught a

0:48:24.440 --> 0:48:26.560
<v Speaker 2>start Joel went here. I'm looking it up, Joel. When

0:48:26.640 --> 0:48:29.799
<v Speaker 2>that guy she was not built like Joe Walt. No, no, no,

0:48:29.880 --> 0:48:33.080
<v Speaker 2>different guy. Different guy wasn't in the draft. Yeah. Anyway,

0:48:33.320 --> 0:48:35.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm okay with it. I'm pro tailor with protailor on

0:48:35.680 --> 0:48:38.000
<v Speaker 2>this show. We've always been okay, fair. Where do we

0:48:38.040 --> 0:48:38.799
<v Speaker 2>want to go next? Dan?

0:48:39.080 --> 0:48:41.080
<v Speaker 1>Okay? This is from a Clemson board. We'll stay off

0:48:41.080 --> 0:48:44.399
<v Speaker 1>topic for a little while. This is from replay Man

0:48:47.000 --> 0:48:52.400
<v Speaker 1>April thirtieth, twenty twenty four eleven, Witching Hour Tie. This

0:48:52.520 --> 0:48:58.320
<v Speaker 1>is posted subject Swingers Convention. Sure guessing not about the

0:48:58.360 --> 0:49:02.760
<v Speaker 1>seminole John Favreau movie Swingers Convention this week at burls Ford?

0:49:03.400 --> 0:49:06.239
<v Speaker 1>Is this rumor true?

0:49:07.800 --> 0:49:09.160
<v Speaker 2>And the fall ups?

0:49:09.200 --> 0:49:13.200
<v Speaker 1>What got me sold? By the way, it looks like

0:49:13.239 --> 0:49:17.279
<v Speaker 1>it's a campground. Okay, girls Ford campground?

0:49:17.400 --> 0:49:19.480
<v Speaker 2>What a what a spot for a swingers convention?

0:49:19.640 --> 0:49:23.000
<v Speaker 1>I agree? Uh. Then the follow up from fast Chad,

0:49:23.760 --> 0:49:28.680
<v Speaker 1>who looks like can you decipher what I'm deciphering? From

0:49:28.719 --> 0:49:34.239
<v Speaker 1>fast Chad's avatar here, it's definitely a picture of the

0:49:34.280 --> 0:49:37.440
<v Speaker 1>Capitol a wintry time in the United States Capital.

0:49:37.520 --> 0:49:38.960
<v Speaker 2>That's correct. Leave it at that.

0:49:39.200 --> 0:49:43.960
<v Speaker 1>There's a crowd gathering and perhaps a Clemson flag in

0:49:44.040 --> 0:49:46.440
<v Speaker 1>there at the bottom. Is that where you're seeing from

0:49:46.480 --> 0:49:47.080
<v Speaker 1>Fast Chad.

0:49:47.239 --> 0:49:50.839
<v Speaker 2>I would have to zoom in, but I can either

0:49:50.880 --> 0:49:51.560
<v Speaker 2>confirm norgy.

0:49:51.640 --> 0:49:55.759
<v Speaker 1>It's a wintry gathering at the United States Capitol built.

0:49:55.080 --> 0:49:58.640
<v Speaker 1>This is probably a chill in the air. It's anyway

0:49:59.440 --> 0:50:01.319
<v Speaker 1>part of the year. I would say, yeah, yeah, the

0:50:01.320 --> 0:50:05.160
<v Speaker 1>grace guys. Fast Chad says, Yep, it's happening. I'm dating

0:50:05.160 --> 0:50:07.640
<v Speaker 1>a girl that's going to be running a daycare out

0:50:07.640 --> 0:50:11.120
<v Speaker 1>of her pop up on Friday and Saturday night. I

0:50:11.320 --> 0:50:14.440
<v Speaker 1>told I told this is me adding her. I'd go

0:50:14.520 --> 0:50:18.040
<v Speaker 1>to help, but I'm really going just to check out

0:50:18.160 --> 0:50:21.680
<v Speaker 1>the scene. Most of these aren't as glamorous as they sound,

0:50:21.719 --> 0:50:24.719
<v Speaker 1>but every once in a while they're real bangers. If

0:50:24.719 --> 0:50:27.840
<v Speaker 1>anyone is going let me know, I'll see if I

0:50:27.880 --> 0:50:31.960
<v Speaker 1>can get Becky, which by the way, doxing the girlfriend. Yes,

0:50:33.640 --> 0:50:36.680
<v Speaker 1>to give you a discount on childcare, assuming you're bringing

0:50:36.719 --> 0:50:40.800
<v Speaker 1>your kids ages six and under are welcome. I add

0:50:41.080 --> 0:50:49.279
<v Speaker 1>to the childcare to the childcare. So South Carolina campground

0:50:49.560 --> 0:50:51.560
<v Speaker 1>swingers situation.

0:50:53.280 --> 0:50:54.400
<v Speaker 2>Listen, whatever you're into.

0:50:55.760 --> 0:50:56.600
<v Speaker 1>Ah, we shamed not.

0:50:56.760 --> 0:50:58.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't you know. We're not judging here. This is

0:50:58.320 --> 0:51:01.759
<v Speaker 2>a no judgment pod. This is just a terrific off

0:51:01.760 --> 0:51:02.600
<v Speaker 2>topic posting.

0:51:03.080 --> 0:51:09.000
<v Speaker 1>Why I posted publicly and not in a direct message. Well,

0:51:09.000 --> 0:51:12.680
<v Speaker 1>everybody better see this. If anybody needs childcare for this,

0:51:12.920 --> 0:51:16.640
<v Speaker 1>what's promising to be a pretty great swingers event in

0:51:16.760 --> 0:51:21.239
<v Speaker 1>nature in South Carolina? Now, far be it from me.

0:51:21.320 --> 0:51:24.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't question anybody's lifestyle. I don't question anybody's social choices.

0:51:25.280 --> 0:51:33.080
<v Speaker 1>But in terms of making new social connections. Yeah, outdoors

0:51:33.160 --> 0:51:36.200
<v Speaker 1>at a campground, I mean you're in a tent, but

0:51:36.239 --> 0:51:36.880
<v Speaker 1>it's still.

0:51:36.640 --> 0:51:39.640
<v Speaker 2>Bug adjacent, bug adjacent.

0:51:40.000 --> 0:51:46.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, elements are at play here, weather elements. I love

0:51:46.800 --> 0:51:52.040
<v Speaker 1>the that fast chat is quick to affirm, quick to

0:51:52.120 --> 0:51:54.720
<v Speaker 1>confirm that the event is indeed happening.

0:51:54.800 --> 0:51:58.400
<v Speaker 2>Smart businessman. So again, look up burls Ford.

0:51:58.960 --> 0:52:01.120
<v Speaker 1>Look it up? Is it? It is what I'm looking

0:52:01.200 --> 0:52:01.800
<v Speaker 1>at right.

0:52:01.960 --> 0:52:03.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm looking this up now burrows.

0:52:03.600 --> 0:52:05.640
<v Speaker 1>Ford, South Carolina.

0:52:05.719 --> 0:52:07.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, man, this is the We got to go

0:52:07.880 --> 0:52:11.239
<v Speaker 2>to the Google Maps view of this, the street view thing.

0:52:12.480 --> 0:52:14.439
<v Speaker 2>See what we got. The street view doesn't even go back.

0:52:14.480 --> 0:52:16.640
<v Speaker 2>There is what I'm seeing, So you're right, this is

0:52:16.640 --> 0:52:18.880
<v Speaker 2>in the sticks man, I'm looking at the Oh yeah.

0:52:18.840 --> 0:52:20.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's like a river, a creek.

0:52:20.960 --> 0:52:24.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh, there's bridges, beautiful countryside in South Carolina.

0:52:25.120 --> 0:52:28.120
<v Speaker 1>But how do you how do you coordinate this type

0:52:28.120 --> 0:52:32.680
<v Speaker 1>of event when there's no like central congregating place. There's

0:52:32.760 --> 0:52:36.080
<v Speaker 1>just people are setting up tents and you know, knocking

0:52:36.160 --> 0:52:36.800
<v Speaker 1>on zippers.

0:52:37.680 --> 0:52:44.480
<v Speaker 2>There was there was a an issue in my hometown.

0:52:45.080 --> 0:52:47.200
<v Speaker 1>Let's see, with.

0:52:47.320 --> 0:52:56.960
<v Speaker 2>A dilapidated old barn and countryside like area. There's an

0:52:56.960 --> 0:53:01.400
<v Speaker 2>old farm, yeah, that somebody had co opted and turned

0:53:01.520 --> 0:53:04.440
<v Speaker 2>into a meeting space for raves up and down the

0:53:04.480 --> 0:53:05.320
<v Speaker 2>Eastern seaboard.

0:53:05.400 --> 0:53:05.920
<v Speaker 1>No brainer.

0:53:07.160 --> 0:53:10.319
<v Speaker 2>And it was not a situation where you could park.

0:53:10.400 --> 0:53:12.000
<v Speaker 2>It was not a situation where you could really have

0:53:12.080 --> 0:53:14.160
<v Speaker 2>like a staging area or anything like that. It was

0:53:14.200 --> 0:53:16.880
<v Speaker 2>all supposed to be on the DL And so you

0:53:16.920 --> 0:53:18.880
<v Speaker 2>had a lot of like ride sharing opera. This is

0:53:18.920 --> 0:53:21.720
<v Speaker 2>like pre ride sharing, but a lot of people finding

0:53:21.719 --> 0:53:26.760
<v Speaker 2>ways to communicate online, sharing rides, going to a drop

0:53:26.800 --> 0:53:30.000
<v Speaker 2>off point, a rally point, being shuttled by somebody else,

0:53:30.239 --> 0:53:32.080
<v Speaker 2>all kind of in the name of trying to keep

0:53:32.080 --> 0:53:34.120
<v Speaker 2>this under wraps, All.

0:53:33.680 --> 0:53:37.960
<v Speaker 1>In the name of dropping that big nasty beat, drop

0:53:38.160 --> 0:53:41.040
<v Speaker 1>the big nasty beat.

0:53:41.480 --> 0:53:44.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure if this is one of those situations

0:53:44.960 --> 0:53:47.920
<v Speaker 2>or how exactly you go about getting folks organized for

0:53:48.000 --> 0:53:50.120
<v Speaker 2>something like this. My hunch is that there's a private

0:53:50.160 --> 0:53:53.719
<v Speaker 2>Facebook group somewhere. Of course, that's how these things kind

0:53:53.760 --> 0:53:56.080
<v Speaker 2>of see the light of day. But I'm looking at

0:53:56.120 --> 0:53:56.600
<v Speaker 2>this picture.

0:53:56.640 --> 0:54:00.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't somebody's dropping a pin on specifically where this happening.

0:54:00.880 --> 0:54:06.160
<v Speaker 2>Somebody is sharing an iOS location. Yeah, this is I

0:54:06.239 --> 0:54:07.319
<v Speaker 2>don't know if I'd want to go to.

0:54:07.280 --> 0:54:11.640
<v Speaker 1>This, but look here, Well, here's the advantage. Right, you're

0:54:11.680 --> 0:54:14.520
<v Speaker 1>sort of outside the watchful eye of Johnny Law. If

0:54:14.560 --> 0:54:18.319
<v Speaker 1>you're going to a campground, right, You're not at a bar,

0:54:18.920 --> 0:54:20.560
<v Speaker 1>You're not at some sort of event space, You're not

0:54:20.600 --> 0:54:22.799
<v Speaker 1>at somebody's house making a bunch of noise and the

0:54:22.840 --> 0:54:27.000
<v Speaker 1>neighbors are getting involved. You're sort of a way. And

0:54:27.040 --> 0:54:30.719
<v Speaker 1>so if you're really going at this in an aggressive

0:54:31.120 --> 0:54:37.040
<v Speaker 1>like community way, everybody's being safe, everybody's asking for the

0:54:37.080 --> 0:54:42.200
<v Speaker 1>correct permissions, right, then it does kind of make sense.

0:54:42.320 --> 0:54:45.440
<v Speaker 2>Man, what's the line look like at the childcare place afterwards?

0:54:46.200 --> 0:54:50.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? That's my question is like, what is what kind

0:54:50.600 --> 0:54:52.880
<v Speaker 1>of setup do we have for the kids. Off to

0:54:52.920 --> 0:54:57.240
<v Speaker 1>the side here the camp cress is. It doesn't seem ideal.

0:54:57.520 --> 0:55:01.279
<v Speaker 2>I have many questions about the gathering. Why don't we

0:55:01.320 --> 0:55:03.560
<v Speaker 2>close it out with this one? Just got a babysitter

0:55:03.600 --> 0:55:07.640
<v Speaker 2>at home. Everybody, just get the babe danced in. Yeah,

0:55:07.680 --> 0:55:11.160
<v Speaker 2>before he goes to his swinger conventions. Yeah, Dogs twenty

0:55:11.160 --> 0:55:14.440
<v Speaker 2>four to seven. Stetson has a better NFL career than

0:55:14.480 --> 0:55:17.080
<v Speaker 2>all six of the quarterbacks taken tonight. I believe this

0:55:17.120 --> 0:55:20.080
<v Speaker 2>is some sort of prediction. Yes, yeah, I think so.

0:55:20.560 --> 0:55:24.080
<v Speaker 2>Stets and Bennett. Did Stetson Bennett see any snaps last.

0:55:23.880 --> 0:55:27.120
<v Speaker 1>Year stets and Bennett NFL stats? I don't believe so

0:55:27.480 --> 0:55:30.200
<v Speaker 1>plays for the Rams. He went away for a little

0:55:30.239 --> 0:55:32.920
<v Speaker 1>bit to better himself, which I tip my cap for

0:55:33.160 --> 0:55:36.520
<v Speaker 1>tip my cap two. It does not look like he

0:55:36.600 --> 0:55:40.640
<v Speaker 1>has any available stats for the Rams. Okay, so I

0:55:40.680 --> 0:55:44.000
<v Speaker 1>know Matt Stafford I think asks for more money, yes,

0:55:44.040 --> 0:55:48.160
<v Speaker 1>for a negotiation situation with the Rams. I don't know

0:55:48.320 --> 0:55:51.080
<v Speaker 1>what has happened with that. But Matt Stafford's certainly not young.

0:55:51.360 --> 0:55:53.400
<v Speaker 2>No, I mean, he's sort of in the twilight of

0:55:53.400 --> 0:55:56.520
<v Speaker 2>his career at this point. So right now, if you're

0:55:56.560 --> 0:55:59.719
<v Speaker 2>looking at the Rams depth chart. Matt Stafford, is your

0:55:59.760 --> 0:56:02.920
<v Speaker 2>cue be one. Jimmy Garoppolo, who I think is now

0:56:02.960 --> 0:56:06.400
<v Speaker 2>suspended for some period of time, is the is the

0:56:06.440 --> 0:56:10.040
<v Speaker 2>two and stets and Bennett's the three. So it's not

0:56:10.320 --> 0:56:12.400
<v Speaker 2>out of the question that stets and Bennett could get

0:56:12.400 --> 0:56:17.320
<v Speaker 2>a run at at taking a few snaps in the league.

0:56:17.920 --> 0:56:21.080
<v Speaker 2>It just feels like the.

0:56:20.640 --> 0:56:21.400
<v Speaker 1>First two games.

0:56:21.480 --> 0:56:25.319
<v Speaker 2>Jimmy Garopps, Yeah, it feel it feels like it's a

0:56:25.400 --> 0:56:28.920
<v Speaker 2>very limited window to do so, and it feels like

0:56:29.080 --> 0:56:33.719
<v Speaker 2>there is enough Ammo on the field if he does

0:56:33.760 --> 0:56:36.240
<v Speaker 2>get in there, that provided he's not a total disaster.

0:56:37.160 --> 0:56:40.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they've got great receiver talent in Los Angeles, Yeah.

0:56:40.320 --> 0:56:42.720
<v Speaker 1>Cooper Cup and Pouka Nakua.

0:56:42.160 --> 0:56:46.400
<v Speaker 2>Cooper, Cupp and Pooka. They've got Kyen Williams, former Notre damer.

0:56:46.520 --> 0:56:48.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, see having a good career. I don't know, Kion.

0:56:48.520 --> 0:56:51.319
<v Speaker 2>Williams had a great year last year. Blake Koram just

0:56:51.400 --> 0:56:53.800
<v Speaker 2>drafted into the league. Will see what what he brings

0:56:53.800 --> 0:56:56.120
<v Speaker 2>with him. I mean, I think By and larsa Rams

0:56:56.120 --> 0:57:00.480
<v Speaker 2>are pretty good team. Not an NFL analyst, so it

0:57:00.560 --> 0:57:03.759
<v Speaker 2>stands to reason that Stetson Bennett having maybe been in

0:57:03.800 --> 0:57:06.640
<v Speaker 2>the system a year, knows the offense has weapons around him,

0:57:06.640 --> 0:57:09.120
<v Speaker 2>could come in and be successful. To say that he's

0:57:09.160 --> 0:57:12.760
<v Speaker 2>going to have a prolonged NFL career, though I'm always

0:57:12.840 --> 0:57:16.120
<v Speaker 2>hesitant to to call that out for quarterbacks under six

0:57:16.160 --> 0:57:16.800
<v Speaker 2>foot tall.

0:57:16.880 --> 0:57:19.640
<v Speaker 1>I think he will have a better NFL career than

0:57:19.720 --> 0:57:21.800
<v Speaker 1>one of these quarterbacks. How about that?

0:57:22.200 --> 0:57:22.320
<v Speaker 2>Then?

0:57:22.400 --> 0:57:25.920
<v Speaker 1>At all six which one I just think because of

0:57:25.960 --> 0:57:30.280
<v Speaker 1>the not an NFL analytic, has become abundantly clear playing

0:57:30.280 --> 0:57:33.360
<v Speaker 1>for Sean McVay, having that kind of receiver, talent, creativity

0:57:33.360 --> 0:57:36.760
<v Speaker 1>on offense, running backs, whatever, that he could flash for

0:57:36.800 --> 0:57:41.680
<v Speaker 1>four or five games in a relief role and become

0:57:41.920 --> 0:57:44.120
<v Speaker 1>an attractive free agent or something down the line, or

0:57:44.160 --> 0:57:47.919
<v Speaker 1>a trade if candidate, If like a quarterback gets hurt

0:57:48.000 --> 0:57:51.040
<v Speaker 1>and the Rams are sitting with a really promising backup quarterback,

0:57:51.400 --> 0:57:53.960
<v Speaker 1>sure which of the six well I was going to

0:57:54.000 --> 0:57:54.320
<v Speaker 1>go through?

0:57:54.520 --> 0:57:59.200
<v Speaker 2>So like you wouldn't take him over Klea Williams' sing, I.

0:57:59.160 --> 0:58:02.040
<v Speaker 1>Have no idea. I don't know anything, neither do I

0:58:02.120 --> 0:58:02.640
<v Speaker 1>play the game.

0:58:02.720 --> 0:58:03.280
<v Speaker 2>Play the game?

0:58:03.400 --> 0:58:05.520
<v Speaker 1>Humor me, No, not over Kayla Williams at the moment, No,

0:58:05.680 --> 0:58:08.560
<v Speaker 1>Jane Daniels, Oh, it would be Bonix or Michael Pennix.

0:58:08.600 --> 0:58:10.680
<v Speaker 2>To me, I think it's Bonix. I think Bonix is

0:58:10.680 --> 0:58:11.360
<v Speaker 2>the obvious one.

0:58:12.880 --> 0:58:16.920
<v Speaker 1>Boonis at least has a good quarterback coach, and Sean

0:58:16.960 --> 0:58:23.200
<v Speaker 1>Payton I think. I don't know, and I always appreciate

0:58:23.240 --> 0:58:28.520
<v Speaker 1>teams playing at altitude. The Pennock situation just weird.

0:58:28.840 --> 0:58:31.760
<v Speaker 2>Penix might not even play man, right, There's a chance

0:58:31.760 --> 0:58:36.240
<v Speaker 2>he he never plays, yeah, right, because they signed Kirk

0:58:36.240 --> 0:58:38.400
<v Speaker 2>Cousins the game one hundred and eighty million dollars, He's

0:58:38.440 --> 0:58:39.400
<v Speaker 2>going to be the guy.

0:58:39.440 --> 0:58:41.960
<v Speaker 1>Like he'll be Jordan Love and sit for a long time.

0:58:42.160 --> 0:58:45.360
<v Speaker 2>The problem is Jordan Love was younger, and by the

0:58:45.400 --> 0:58:48.320
<v Speaker 2>time Penix would play in that setup, he'd be like

0:58:48.360 --> 0:58:51.240
<v Speaker 2>twenty seven years old, Yeah, which is clearly not where

0:58:51.280 --> 0:58:53.800
<v Speaker 2>the league is at nowadays. It doesn't mean he couldn't

0:58:53.800 --> 0:58:56.960
<v Speaker 2>be successful, just would be a bit a bit non

0:58:57.000 --> 0:59:02.120
<v Speaker 2>standard given where things stand right now. So I would

0:59:02.160 --> 0:59:04.520
<v Speaker 2>like to see Stetson Bennet play in the NFL. I

0:59:05.040 --> 0:59:07.560
<v Speaker 2>would really like and I and you know, when he

0:59:07.680 --> 0:59:10.240
<v Speaker 2>was in college, so much of the conversation about Stetson

0:59:10.280 --> 0:59:13.560
<v Speaker 2>Bennett was around who else should Georgia play at quarterback

0:59:13.600 --> 0:59:15.440
<v Speaker 2>instead of stets and Bennet, And it took a while

0:59:15.520 --> 0:59:18.360
<v Speaker 2>for many of us, maybe not Georgia fans, but many

0:59:18.400 --> 0:59:20.520
<v Speaker 2>of us on the outside to come to grips with

0:59:20.560 --> 0:59:22.440
<v Speaker 2>the fact that, like this dude's just going to be

0:59:22.440 --> 0:59:24.760
<v Speaker 2>the quarterback, and he's really good as a college quarterback,

0:59:25.080 --> 0:59:27.160
<v Speaker 2>full stop. He was very, very good. He's going down

0:59:27.200 --> 0:59:29.480
<v Speaker 2>as one of the greatest ever, certainly for Georgia and

0:59:29.560 --> 0:59:33.480
<v Speaker 2>the SEC or whatever else. And so it's guys like

0:59:33.560 --> 0:59:37.480
<v Speaker 2>that that have i'll say a little bit of a

0:59:37.480 --> 0:59:42.440
<v Speaker 2>t bow complex in that they were interesting players in

0:59:42.520 --> 0:59:46.840
<v Speaker 2>college for a multitude of reasons. Neither of them necessarily

0:59:46.880 --> 0:59:49.400
<v Speaker 2>projected all that well to the next level, but there

0:59:49.520 --> 0:59:53.160
<v Speaker 2>was this inherent curiosity around what would happen if they

0:59:53.200 --> 0:59:55.680
<v Speaker 2>got a few snaps. And I feel that about Stetson Bennett.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I think it'd be a good story for

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<v Speaker 2>stets and Bennett to step in and actually be productive

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<v Speaker 2>on the next level.

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<v Speaker 1>I've no idea if it's a good story, but I

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<v Speaker 1>want to see it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it'd be a good story. I would like

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<v Speaker 2>to see it. Fair enough, all right, any of these

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<v Speaker 2>other ones here that you want to address quickly, We've got,

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<v Speaker 2>like I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think we should circle back to burls Ford. If anybody out.

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<v Speaker 2>There is a reballer going to Burl's Ford.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we want a thorough write up of your experience,

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<v Speaker 1>what you saw first person on the ground.

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<v Speaker 2>Report this is or if you've just been to Burl's

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<v Speaker 2>Ford for like an action camping thing, just local knowledge

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<v Speaker 2>would be helpful. Here, solid verbal, how do you think

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<v Speaker 2>that aligns with a swinger's night? Yeah? Where would you

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<v Speaker 2>throw one?

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<v Speaker 1>Solid verbal?

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<v Speaker 2>At? Gmail dot com is the email address. We'd appreciate

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<v Speaker 2>any and all insight. Again, this is no judgment podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>perks here in the off season, Dan, can I tell

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<v Speaker 2>you something please?

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<v Speaker 1>As it relates. First of all, I wanted to ask

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<v Speaker 1>you something at the top of the show that I

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<v Speaker 1>decided to ask you at the end of the show,

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<v Speaker 1>how uh deleted, erased or not at all? Is your

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<v Speaker 1>digital footprint via message boards over the years, Like, if

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<v Speaker 1>somebody found out your username, could they go back and

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<v Speaker 1>find anything like damning that you've posted or embarrassing that

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<v Speaker 1>you've posted, emotional that you were riled up while posting.

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<v Speaker 2>It has been so long since I posted on a

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<v Speaker 2>message board, okay, And I've always been pretty mindful of

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm putting out there.

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<v Speaker 1>But if if a forensic somebody did some some forensic

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<v Speaker 1>message board accounting.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't think I've posted anything that would

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<v Speaker 2>be too objectionable, Okay, and people who people listening to

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<v Speaker 2>this show know that I'm not that controversial, that's true.

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<v Speaker 2>So if any of that stuff is out there, and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even remember what my name is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, swing Guy forty four four, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 1>How about you. Oh, there are probably posts I regret, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there're Twitter posts regret. Yeah, there are tweets I regret

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<v Speaker 1>for sure, But I I sort of cleaned all that up,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I just at some point figured like, why do

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<v Speaker 1>I need tweets from twenty thirteen good, bad, meaningless. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like floating around like it doesn't seem like there's a reason. No,

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<v Speaker 1>so there's like some service. I'll just like get rid

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<v Speaker 1>of it older than a year or something. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's probably stuff I regret. I don't know. I have

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<v Speaker 1>no idea. I don't remember all my screen names either,

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't know what it's a it's been a

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<v Speaker 1>minute now. The other thing to add is like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know the terminology for the burls forward stuff. And

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<v Speaker 1>we just had a couple invite us over for a

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<v Speaker 1>game night, and I have no idea if it's an

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<v Speaker 1>actual game night. Is that a code? Okay, we did

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<v Speaker 1>talk about like code names is one of the games

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<v Speaker 1>I think, and taboo, But then again, taboo could be

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<v Speaker 1>missing to I don't know solid verbogmail dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't let us know is the email addressed? Let

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<v Speaker 2>us know my thing, but find us on social media

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<v Speaker 2>as well. We'd appreciate any end all of your support.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be back a little bit later on this week.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to May College Football Talk, Boys and girls. Big

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<v Speaker 2>shout out to our friends over at boor Geniuses for

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<v Speaker 2>putting in yeomen's work time and again bringing some of

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<v Speaker 2>these great message board postings to light. We appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for letting us piggyback on some of your

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<v Speaker 2>hard work.

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<v Speaker 1>Aggregating the aggregator.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right for that guy over there, my good friend

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<v Speaker 2>Dan Rubinstein, for myself, tie held the brand.

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<v Speaker 1>Hope you had fun.

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<v Speaker 2>We did.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk to you soon.

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<v Speaker 2>Stay solid, peace, h