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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal call that for me, I'm

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Speaker 1: well I want to be happy, you want to be happy?

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Speaker 1: For Dake, Edith Steak is that woo woom? And Dan

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to these solid verbal boys and girls. My

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Speaker 2: name is Ty Hill Neebrandt. That fine gentleman over there

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Speaker 2: is always the one, the only still being comparable. Dan Rubenstein, Sir,

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the show How Goes It?

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Speaker 1: Because really, well, this is one of my favorite annual

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Speaker 1: episodes that we do. Because what is more college football

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Speaker 1: than what we are going to do today? What is

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Speaker 1: more uh evident of the insanity that college football brings

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Speaker 1: upon people's brains than one listening to a college football

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Speaker 1: podcast in early May and two listening to a college

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Speaker 1: football podcast in early May about the funniest, weirdest, most

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Speaker 1: oddball message board posts. And this is these are message

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Speaker 1: boards posts that are relatively recently Yes, costed correct. I

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Speaker 1: love this episode so very much. It's the essence of

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Speaker 2: We did a bonus episode out on our Patreon it

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Speaker 2: for ballers dot com. This is not so much a

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Speaker 2: asking what is college football made of? Of all the

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Speaker 2: other elements of sport in the United States, around the world,

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Speaker 2: about basically this, this subculture of college football fandom that

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Speaker 1: Sure, some more so than others, dip some toes.

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Speaker 2: It is all kind of mixed together into this weird

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Speaker 2: on the Solid Verbal College Football Podcast, today we are

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Speaker 2: going to talk through some message board postings that have

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Speaker 2: friends over at message board Geniuses. They are on Twitter

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Speaker 2: at board Geniuses. We are not taking credit for any

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Speaker 1: We are aggregating their aggregation, are we not, and celebrating it?

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Speaker 1: So yeah, this is aggregation inception and one of the

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Speaker 1: there are other adjacent boards. And I'm explaining to this

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Speaker 2: board Geniuses. Go and check them out on Twitter. Okay,

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Speaker 2: we dive in? So you're telling me there's a chance, Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: A Florida fan wants to know what Billy Napier is hiding.

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Speaker 2: So the tension here is obviously between Florida fans and

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Speaker 1: What's the old line, If you're gonna be dumb, you

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Speaker 1: Like you need to sort of give people something. You give,

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Speaker 2: an ongoing battle between these two conferences. Maybe the next

435
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Speaker 2: front for the war is a school, like a Florida

436
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Speaker 2: State or a Notre Dame. I can't imagine Notre Dame

437
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Speaker 2: joined the SEC, but okay, maybe it's something else altogether.

438
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Speaker 2: But I feel like that's where the battle goes next.

439
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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's an SEC team jumping to

440
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Speaker 1: the Big Ten or vice versa, but certainly, with the

441
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Speaker 1: ACC's current affiliation with ESPN, it feels as if it

442
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Speaker 1: would be pretty major if the Big Ten were to

443
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Speaker 1: somehow aggressively go after an ACC team. So, whether it's

444
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Speaker 1: you know, North Carolina, Florida State, Clemson, whoever. Right, that's

445
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Speaker 1: the sort of cold war right now. Well, and you.

446
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Speaker 2: Know, we talk a lot about the Big Ten the SEC.

447
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 2: Of course, I think that masks the fact that the

448
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Speaker 2: true turf war is between Fox and ESPN.

449
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Speaker 1: Correct, Oh, absolutely, it is right.

450
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Speaker 2: It's not a conference thing as much as it is

451
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Speaker 2: a bank rolling thing behind the scenes in the networks,

452
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Speaker 2: which again, no secret to the people listening at home,

453
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Speaker 2: but that's just where we're at.

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Speaker 1: Here we go this.

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Speaker 2: One out on our good friends over at USC football

456
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Speaker 2: dot com.

457
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Speaker 1: This is so good. There's so much here that I've

458
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Speaker 1: seen continue.

459
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Speaker 2: How does Oregon keep getting away with this? They literally

460
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Speaker 2: have one hundred players. The Big Ten needs to step

461
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Speaker 2: in because this is crazy. No one has ever, no

462
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Speaker 2: one has even hit the portal. It's unfair to every

463
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Speaker 2: other team playing. Forget the aspect of scholarships. Why are

464
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:12,400
Speaker 2: these kids going for this without leaving. They all must

465
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 2: be losers, losers with the apostrophe in the wrong place

466
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Speaker 2: of course, not even needed here. Really, they almost be

467
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Speaker 2: losers who have no plans of going to the NFL. Dan,

468
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Speaker 2: how is Oregon getting away with this? It does feel

469
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Speaker 2: like they have a thousand players.

470
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Speaker 1: They do have many players. I have no idea. They

471
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Speaker 1: are obviously appealing to people. People want to play for

472
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Speaker 1: Dan Lanning and be in Eugene, Oregon and play for

473
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Speaker 1: that program. I know that they're here's what I've heard

474
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Speaker 1: about Oregon. I've heard that they're so, they're they're collective,

475
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Speaker 1: they're whatever. Their NL situation is called Division Street, and

476
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 1: it's all Division Street. Okay, that like everything is under

477
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Speaker 1: one roof. Everybody seems to be aligned, and it's like

478
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Speaker 1: an actual business. It's an actual like they have a

479
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Speaker 1: roster of employees and they have people, marketing people and

480
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 1: branding people whatever. Like it's it's not slap de tie.

481
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Speaker 1: And so what I think is the case with a

482
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Speaker 1: number of places. I know, Ohio States obviously has come

483
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Speaker 1: a long way recently. I know, let's see, I think

484
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 1: Texas Louisville's is pretty big, Like there are the number

485
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Speaker 1: of schools and people that are more plugged into this

486
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Speaker 1: obviously know much more than I would. But from everything

487
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Speaker 1: I've heard, it's like there's lawyers, there's like there's an

488
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Speaker 1: actual structure to this nil situation at Oregon. And so

489
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Speaker 1: there are a number of places that like are raising money,

490
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Speaker 1: but there's like warring collectives and collapsing collectives, and I

491
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Speaker 1: know USC has a couple of them at least, and

492
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Speaker 1: USC fans right now, whether it's because of portal, whether

493
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Speaker 1: it's because of recruiting, they don't they can't imagine a

494
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Speaker 1: world in which Oregon, year over year over year over

495
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Speaker 1: year is out recruiting USC because in the fans minds

496
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Speaker 1: at USC, Like Oregon is just Phil Knight and they're

497
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 1: just you know, dropping bags at a helicopters on recruits

498
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 1: front door steps and everything and like, but the academics

499
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Speaker 1: at US, but the degree the connections at US. Okay,

500
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: there's there's a lot of the USC fans just through

501
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 1: like the message board geniuses account that I've seen, Like

502
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Speaker 1: there's a lot on USC boards that people are just

503
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 1: down bad. They're down bad watching Oregon recruit like this.

504
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: And I'll be the first one to tell you it's

505
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Speaker 1: all well and good to be excited in May tie.

506
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Speaker 1: Yet they just lost to Washington three times in two years.

507
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Speaker 1: And so Oregon has the roster it seems to break

508
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Speaker 1: through this year and they're building the depth that I

509
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Speaker 1: think they'll need if they are indeed a playoff caliber

510
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Speaker 1: team to win two, three, four game whatever it takes

511
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Speaker 1: in the College Football Playoff. They're building that depth. But

512
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Speaker 1: they're still Dan Lanning's still young, he's still only been

513
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Speaker 1: a head coach for a couple of years. And USC

514
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 1: fans what it was, it was the same line as

515
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,679
Speaker 1: Jesse from breaking but we can't keep getting away with this. Yeah,

516
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 1: and they are in that headspace right now, they're losing

517
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Speaker 1: their minds. I think Colorado fans are losing their minds

518
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: a little bit with Oregon USC fan like that is,

519
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 1: that is a thing, and we'll see how you know,

520
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 1: new legislation and you know, schools taking paying players in

521
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,679
Speaker 1: house and everything and sharing TV revenue, what role of

522
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: that plays. But right now, it seems Oregon's in a

523
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: good place. The money is there, the aggression on the

524
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Speaker 1: recruiting and portal trail is there, and they seem to

525
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Speaker 1: be in the heads of a lot of these West

526
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Speaker 1: Coast programs. We've decided, by the way, we're going to

527
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Speaker 1: that game on November the second, Oregon Michigan. Oregon Michigan. Yeah,

528
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Speaker 1: I can't wait.

529
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Speaker 2: November the second. We're going to go Dan Arbor go

530
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Speaker 2: to that.

531
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Speaker 1: Can't wait.

532
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Speaker 2: We'll figure it out later what that means for a

533
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 2: weekly recap episodes and whatnot. But it's been too long

534
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 2: since we were at a big game. We got to

535
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Speaker 2: make sure we yeah, we gotta go. Got to make

536
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Speaker 2: sure we get out and uh and enjoy. So if

537
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 2: you'd be in town, let us know otherwise. Yeah, how

538
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 2: do they keep getting away with it? I mean, look,

539
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 2: they're an IT program right now. They've got money, they've

540
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 2: got an excitable young coach, They've clearly got a ton

541
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Speaker 2: of talent. They're loaded to the teeth with talent. And

542
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Speaker 2: any school that's able to build depth in twenty twenty

543
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 2: four is like a really big deal, especially if you

544
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Speaker 2: are playing on the level of an Oregon, of a

545
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 2: Penn State, of a Notre Dame, of an Alabama. You know,

546
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,719
Speaker 2: just throwing out examples of teams that are probably in

547
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 2: that playoff conversation. If you don't have that depth, you're

548
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Speaker 2: kind of screwed. The season is going to be longer.

549
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Speaker 2: It's harder than ever to build that depth because of

550
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Speaker 2: the portal, Oregans found a way to do it, either

551
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Speaker 2: via the NIL set up or otherwise. And so, you know,

552
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Speaker 2: at least to that point, I understand why I was

553
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 2: driving other programs crazy. I think I'd probably feel the

554
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Speaker 2: same if I root for a rival school.

555
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Speaker 1: So this past weekend it was Derek Harmon from Michigan

556
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: State the defensive tackle. So Michigan State lost. I think

557
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Speaker 1: it's Simeon Barrow to Miami, who was promising and a

558
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 1: good size deal, and Derek Harmon to Oregon who had

559
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: visited Oregon before when he entered and then went back

560
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Speaker 1: into the portal. In December, Oregon had a commitment from

561
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Speaker 1: a top kid in southern California from modern day, which

562
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Speaker 1: has long been a USC feeder program. And then a

563
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: kid who also from southern California who went to Alabama

564
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Speaker 1: and then entered the portal after spring and is headed

565
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Speaker 1: to Oregon. And so yeah, they are absolutely loading up,

566
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Speaker 1: and it's what it is, and this is what we know.

567
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: Ty loading up on the recruiting trail is great, but

568
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Speaker 1: there's the cautionary tales right that, whether it's USC with

569
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Speaker 1: Lane Kiff and Steve Sarkisian, whether it's Texas A and

570
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: M recently, whether it's whoever tennessee that like you start

571
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Speaker 1: stringing together those top classes, but without stringing together playoff berths,

572
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Speaker 1: Like it is fair right now to have enormous expectations

573
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Speaker 1: for Oregon and if they fall short, if they're going

574
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Speaker 1: nine to three, ten and two with this kind of

575
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Speaker 1: endit sure, with this kind of focus, with this kind

576
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 1: of attention, those are huge disappointments. That's on Dan Lanning,

577
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: that's on the you know, the front office whatever. So

578
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Speaker 1: with great sort of off season accomplishment should come great expectations,

579
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: and so they should be held to an enormously high

580
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Speaker 1: standard for building a roster like this.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Michigan. Let's I think the Michigan legislature

582
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 2: needs to seriously think of using some of the rainy

583
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Speaker 2: day funds slash surplus tax revenue to give to Michigan

584
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Speaker 2: and Michigan State for nil money. It's not good for

585
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 2: state economy when both programs are struggling, you lose tourism revenue.

586
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. Let me ask you this, two poverty programs,

587
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Speaker 1: Michigan and Michigan State.

588
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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is obviously a horrible idea. I appreciate the

589
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 2: spirit of it. This is a terrible idea.

590
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Speaker 1: Yeah. That said, if you put this on.

591
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Speaker 2: A ballot in the great State of Michigan, went this

592
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Speaker 2: November referendum, can we give some percentage of state tax

593
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 2: revenue to these two schools?

594
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Speaker 1: So at the in this very moment, schools are not

595
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 1: allowed to pay players. Right that you have affiliated anil situations,

596
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: and so you're going to go above the school. Above

597
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: the school stay com funded, federally funded institutions and appropriate

598
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Speaker 1: government funds. That's for this. I love that.

599
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Speaker 2: I love the idea. I love the idea. This is

600
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Speaker 2: creative if nothing more. Yeah, So, if we put this

601
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Speaker 2: on a ballot, and I want to hear from the

602
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Speaker 2: forballer hood, would it win, would it lose? What would

603
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 2: the split be of the final tally, I e. What

604
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 2: percentage of people would vote yes.

605
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Speaker 1: I don't think it would pass. I'm not saying it

606
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Speaker 1: would pass. It's not legal. Let's be clear, it's not legal.

607
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 2: But if you put this on about what percentage of

608
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Speaker 2: people in Michigan vote yes.

609
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Speaker 1: I don't think it means enough in state. I think

610
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Speaker 1: if you maybe went to a couple sec states it

611
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: just means more areas, then perhaps it would be a

612
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,479
Speaker 1: little bit more successful. But I don't think there are

613
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Speaker 1: enough people within the state of Michigan who look around

614
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: them and say, we could use a little bit less

615
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Speaker 1: on our roads and our schools and our emergency services

616
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Speaker 1: so that Michigan and Michigan State could retain their roster

617
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Speaker 1: via nil. I don't think it would mean enough.

618
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Speaker 2: Look, you say that, yeah, but it's like every other

619
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Speaker 2: year that somebody tries to push through a publicly funded

620
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 2: stadium for a pro team. That's true, all right, And

621
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Speaker 2: in those cases, in the cases of Olympic stadium builds

622
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Speaker 2: or any of that stuff, the return on investment is

623
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Speaker 2: not usually there, not by a long shot, but a

624
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 2: time and again, it is still sold to the general

625
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 2: populace is something that would be good for them, for

626
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Speaker 2: the local economy, for jobs, for whatever. Data doesn't really

627
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Speaker 2: suggest that.

628
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Speaker 1: But okay, I was going to say, at least, like

629
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Speaker 1: the selling point with a stadium, we're revitalizing downtown and

630
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Speaker 1: it's a whole experience. But like keeping a linebacker in

631
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: town who might be getting portal interest from bigger schools,

632
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Speaker 1: you know, Michigan State would be losing a defensive lineman

633
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Speaker 1: again to like Oregon or Miami. Like, there's not a

634
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Speaker 1: lot of evidence that that is going to stimulate the

635
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Speaker 1: East Lansing economy.

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Speaker 2: Would this get to twenty percent? Would twenty percent of

637
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Speaker 2: the voting public vote for this.

638
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Speaker 1: No, just because I don't think enough of the voting

639
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Speaker 1: public understands anil and like, I just don't think it's

640
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Speaker 1: fifteen percent fifteen percent vote I think it would. I

641
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Speaker 1: have no idea seven percent. I will say seventy percent

642
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Speaker 1: under ten. Well, so you have to take the people

643
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Speaker 1: that understand NIL, understand collectives understand you know where the

644
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: sport is right now. So you have whatever percentage of

645
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: fans that is, and then you have to find the

646
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Speaker 1: percentage of those people who say, yes, we have reached

647
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Speaker 1: this point where we no longer have confidence in donors

648
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Speaker 1: and collectives whatever to do this. So this is the

649
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Speaker 1: last resort answer. And also, like, is their enthusiasm in

650
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Speaker 1: the Michigan fan base right now for this after a

651
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Speaker 1: national championship, Like, so you're already probably losing a bunch

652
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Speaker 1: of Michigan people. You're already probably losing a bunch of

653
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Speaker 1: Michigan people who think NIL stuff is unbecoming and wrong

654
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Speaker 1: for the sport. And you know, the capital are right

655
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Speaker 1: way of doing things. So you're losing a ton of

656
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Speaker 1: Michigan people already, Michigan State people, this is a fan base.

657
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Speaker 1: They've been to the playoff, didn't score, but been to

658
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Speaker 1: the playoff. That's correct, I fact checked me on that time.

659
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Speaker 1: But yes, you have Michigan State people who now are

660
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Speaker 1: looking at the success of Michigan, who are looking at

661
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Speaker 1: the continued growth of Ohio State, who are feeling lost

662
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Speaker 1: in the sea of college football and in the big ten.

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Speaker 2: Man, you can get ten percent of the people to

664
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Speaker 2: vote for anything. I'll go, well, then.

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Speaker 1: You're talking about you also have people voters in Michigan

666
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Speaker 1: who went to neither school and don't care about football

667
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Speaker 1: or Michigan or Michigan State at all.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you can get ten percent to vote for anything.

669
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Speaker 2: You need clever marketing and clever campaigning. You can get

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Speaker 2: ten percent of people to vote for anything. Okay, So

671
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Speaker 2: I guess my specific question the for baller hood over

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Speaker 2: under ten percent? If you actually put this on a

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Speaker 2: ballot come November you're saying under I'll say, I mean

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Speaker 2: it might just get the ten percent, but I'm saying

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Speaker 2: over right. Okay, great question though, thank you. Okay, where

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Speaker 2: we want to go next? Here?

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Speaker 1: Let me see, do you want to go to Taylor Swift?

678
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Speaker 1: Do you want to go to Swingers? Where are we going?

679
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Speaker 1: Let's do Let's do Colorado? Okay, Okay, now in my

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Speaker 1: nobuff November and May.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, full disclosure, Dan is on a bit of a

682
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Speaker 2: Colorado sabbatical at present.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm on a diet.

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Speaker 2: You're taking the month of May off from Colorado football.

685
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 2: From Dion Sanders from coach prime. Believe me, there will

686
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 2: be plenty of opportunity the rest of the year to

687
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 2: catch up whatever you miss. But for the purposes of

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Speaker 2: this episode, just because we like this post from Buff

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Speaker 2: Stampede s two s Buff says, I hate to say

690
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Speaker 2: this because their fan base is filled with d bags,

691
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Speaker 2: but I feel like we might be in a similar

692
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 2: situation to twenty twenty two TCU. Those fans talked like

693
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 2: they were Alabama rolling into Boulder on Opening Night. They

694
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Speaker 2: knew something that nobody else really knew, and everybody was

695
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Speaker 2: judging them off their previous season. We know we have

696
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Speaker 2: quality and depth, do they? Not sure? But nobody else

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Speaker 2: is paying attention. Also probably not true. We are absolutely

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Speaker 2: going to surprise people this year. Okay, that is the

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Speaker 2: full post. Dan, Okay, So should we let's talk about

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Speaker 2: the TCU.

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Speaker 1: Element of this, Yes?

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Speaker 2: Please?

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Speaker 1: Okay? Do we think so TCU coming off of twenty

704
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Speaker 1: twenty one in this instant correct? So new coach, new

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Speaker 1: coach and Sunny Dyke's who had I think success at

706
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Speaker 1: SMU against TCU TCU in twenty twenty one? Okay, So

707
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,399
Speaker 1: they go five and seven. Gary Patterson leaves a few

708
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: games into the season, leaving them with an interim situation.

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Speaker 1: TCU loses to Iowa State forty eight fourteen to end

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty one season. They lose to Oklahoma State

711
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Speaker 1: on the road. Two weeks before that, sixty three to seventeen,

712
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Speaker 1: they beat Baylor. That was like a Chandler Morris game.

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Speaker 1: I want to say, he comes in in relief beat Baylor,

714
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Speaker 1: who was at the time number twelve in the country.

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Speaker 1: There is not a single reasonable TCU fan who entered

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Speaker 1: into the twenty twenty two season feeling good, real good,

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Speaker 1: real confident. Everybody was surprised at TCU less so as

718
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: the season went on, less so as they saw Max

719
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Speaker 1: Duggan become an absolute warrior for the Frogs. But nobody

720
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Speaker 1: went into that Colorado game. Tc wins again thirty eight

721
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Speaker 1: thirteen and Chandler Morris gets hurt in that game. So

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Speaker 1: nobody went into that season thinking Chandler Moore Trus is

723
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Speaker 1: our guy and was proven right because he started the

724
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Speaker 1: season as the starter in twenty twenty two. So I

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Speaker 1: got bad news. I think this is a misguided message

726
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Speaker 1: for post time. I'm gonna be honest with you. I

727
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Speaker 1: think it's a little misguided. I don't think it's it's

728
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Speaker 1: truly apples to apples.

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Speaker 2: I don't The quality and depth argument on the Colorado

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Speaker 2: side of this is also a bit of a question.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Now, look, I happen to think despite the news stories

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Speaker 2: that are out there, I believe, at least I want

734
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Speaker 2: to believe that Colorado is going to be better this season. Okay,

735
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Speaker 2: they have to and they have to be better. I

736
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Speaker 2: think they know where their deficiencies are, and they added

737
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Speaker 2: some beef upfront on the line offensively, you know, we'll

738
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Speaker 2: wait and see. They lost Dylan Edwards, like it, there's

739
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Speaker 2: a lot in flux just given the way.

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Speaker 1: Whatever Dan Hayden. Yeah, there's players there.

741
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Speaker 2: There's a lot going on, but there's still a lot there,

742
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Speaker 2: so I think they'll be better. The depth side of

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Speaker 2: the argument, you lose me because I don't know if

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Speaker 2: there's a whole lot of depth at Colorado at this point.

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Speaker 2: It seems like it's very paper thin, which is a

746
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Speaker 2: problem later in the year. But okay, that's just me.

747
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Speaker 2: I have been paying attention. It seems like that's the problem.

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Speaker 2: I don't disagree that they may surprise some people this year.

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Speaker 2: I'd like to see that happen for their sake. I

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Speaker 2: also agree, though, that this is a little bit misguided. Dan.

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Speaker 2: I don't see TCU when I look at Colorado this year.

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Speaker 2: I see I see Texas Tech twelve years ago, when

753
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 2: they were playing one side of the ball and not

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Speaker 2: the other, and we kept waiting for them to break

755
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 2: through and be a little bit more well rounded, and

756
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Speaker 2: it just kind of never happened. They were a fun offense,

757
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 2: they weren't a good defense. Their games were more than

758
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 2: not shootouts, and that was fun, that was entertaining. But

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Speaker 2: you didn't go into those games expecting that Tech was

760
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Speaker 2: going to come away as like a ten and two team.

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Speaker 2: You expected seven and five, six and six, and that's

762
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Speaker 2: often what you got. Now, maybe I'm selling Tech short.

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Speaker 2: I'm not meaning to do so, but you get the point.

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Speaker 2: That is what Colorado is right now, and I will

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Speaker 2: happily be proven wrong on that. But until we see

766
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Speaker 2: it on the field, you know there's a lot of

767
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 2: ground they need to make up. Dan, from what we

768
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Speaker 2: saw last season, this is not a well rounded team.

769
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Speaker 2: They certainly have some really exciting pieces. Shador is going

770
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Speaker 2: to be a first round pick. Travis Hunter is going

771
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Speaker 2: to be a top five pick. There are clearly guys

772
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Speaker 2: in this team are very, very talented, but I gotta

773
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Speaker 2: stop short of anything more because I want to see

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Speaker 2: in reality when they actually get there out on the field,

775
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 2: what this off season rebuild, transfer, rebuild, what you know,

776
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 2: whatever has done for that roster.

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Speaker 1: Okay, here's the line from this post that I keep

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Speaker 1: going back to when I read a S two s Buff, Yes,

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Speaker 1: yes to us Buff. Those fans talk like they were

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Speaker 1: Alabama rolling into Boulder on Opening Night? All right. In

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Speaker 1: two thousand and five, Gary Barnett was after the two

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Speaker 1: thousand and five season, was let go after going seven

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Speaker 1: and six. Okay, fact check me on that seven and

784
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Speaker 1: six seven and five regular season, finished first in the

785
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Speaker 1: Big twelve North, lost in the Champs Sports Bowl. Okay,

786
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Speaker 1: two thousand and five, simpler time, pre solid verbal. Do

787
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Speaker 1: you know how many full winning seasons Colorado has had

788
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: since going seven and five regular season that year? One?

789
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Speaker 1: Two one? So do you know who rolls into Boulder

790
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 1: thinking they're everything and they're gonna smoke Colorado? Every team,

791
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 1: every team for the last nineteen years, has rolled into

792
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: Colorado confidently because all Colorado does is year after year

793
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 1: after year after year, coach after coach after coach is

794
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: throw up ls. Okay, they're a losing program who does

795
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: almost exclusively loses college football seasons. Okay, So rolling into

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00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: Boulder thinking you're Alabama is not limited to the twenty

797
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 1: twenty two TCU squad by at Oregon, USC, UCLA, Washington State, Arizona,

798
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Speaker 1: Arizona State, Utah, New Big Twelve, to whatever whoever it is,

799
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Speaker 1: you should roll into Boulder thinking you have an excellent

800
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 1: shot to win, because recent history suggests, no matter who

801
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 1: the coach is, people roll into Boulder and win. So

802
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:26,399
Speaker 1: TCU fans, even coming off of a disastrous season, even

803
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 1: with a new coach, to who they would have no idea,

804
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 1: even with the new starting quarterback, even with all that

805
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: was new, they're not douchebags for doing that. That's history

806
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: suggests that that's the actual correct move.

807
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:39,879
Speaker 2: I was gonna say this is not a Dion argu

808
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 2: or not even mentioning no name before this, because the

809
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 2: proofs kind of in the pudding.

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00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: This is also pre Dion right that. Yeah, it's Carl

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Speaker 1: Durrell's final season.

812
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 2: It's been bad program for a while, and that's why

813
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 2: I actually kind of commend them for going out to

814
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 2: get deon. You need to kick up some dust. If

815
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 2: you've got to try something different. You've been trying the

816
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,879
Speaker 2: same thing time and again it hasn't worked. I don't

817
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 2: hate the movie to get done. I still don't. I mean,

818
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 2: the press hasn't been great. But let's give him more time.

819
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 2: See what he can do if he's trying to do

820
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 2: this a little bit differently. Yeah, there is a lot

821
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,399
Speaker 2: though that I would argue in this message board post

822
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Speaker 2: to say the least.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, but I love the idea, and I God

824
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: bless Colorado fans. They've been through a lot. I love

825
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 1: the idea of how dare you come to our town,

826
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: in our stadium and feel confidently that you are going

827
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 1: to win a college football game of all things?

828
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 2: Yeah?

829
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: That that's great?

830
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 2: All right?

831
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Speaker 1: Where do we want to go next? Here? And that's

832
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Speaker 1: with all due respect to Laviska Chanal, who I love Viscashanal.

833
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 1: We love Leaviska chan Taylor, what's the song? What's this

834
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 1: message board on the Taylor Swift one?

835
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Speaker 2: Uh?

836
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,879
Speaker 1: It's c B. I don't know why you think cougar board?

837
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: Is this? BYU?

838
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift? Tortured posts apartment. I feel bad for those

839
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 2: poets that had to listen to this garbage album and

840
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 2: try to give it a positive review. I've heard four

841
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 2: songs on the album enough to know it's absolute crap.

842
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 2: She's not an artist. At some point she may have been,

843
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 2: but as of now she has nothing of value to

844
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 2: contribute to the world, and the songs reflected it's trash

845
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 2: of the lowest type. There's a lot of animosity here

846
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 2: from somebody named Mark Spector think.

847
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Speaker 1: By the way, more up votes on this board than down.

848
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Speaker 1: Yea four thumbs up, five happy faces, three eye rolls,

849
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Speaker 1: and one thumbs down. So right now, the score nine

850
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 1: to four in favor of Mark. Of his view on

851
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift a bit.

852
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 2: Of a mixed review on the album. I have not

853
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 2: seen Mark's write up anywhere online. I haven't seen his

854
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 2: official review you.

855
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 1: But this is that like off topic thing, right, This

856
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 1: is the people simple sharing with their community.

857
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Speaker 2: Have you listened to the album like three or four songs?

858
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Speaker 1: And I like Taylor Swift. I've listened a few songs

859
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 1: just because I don't really sit and listen to anything

860
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 1: album wise. I listened to whatever Spotify tells me to

861
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 1: on my Discover Weekly or whatever my day list, and

862
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 1: then whatever my kids want to listen to in the car, which,

863
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,720
Speaker 1: by the way, is now Taylor Swift creeping into the rotation,

864
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: the Kailer entering the culture five and three. Yeah, whoa damn,

865
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 1: it's right now. The rotation that of the songs they

866
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 1: like is cruel, Summer okay, blank space, shake it Off style.

867
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 1: We're I'm probably shaping their interest via nineteen eighty nine,

868
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: which is where I still go back to it, Goode

869
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 1: t Swift. I haven't been able to get into the

870
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:34,879
Speaker 1: like last five six, seven years, like Folklore, Midnight's all

871
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. This is this is a.

872
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 2: Point of contention between Solid Life Kate and I.

873
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: But I'll say, and I understand why. I'll say, I

874
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 1: don't think it's bad. It just I haven't attached myself

875
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 1: to it. I listened to it, and I think that's

876
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: pretty good, but I don't come back to it, and

877
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,760
Speaker 1: so I don't know whatever it does or doesn't resonate

878
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: like I think it's pretty good, I just I don't know.

879
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,879
Speaker 1: Sometimes you just go back to the earlier because that's

880
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 1: what got you into that music in the first place.

881
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 2: This could be maybe.

882
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: A lot of moody Taylor in that stretch.

883
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 2: This could possibly be the most contentious part of my

884
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 2: marriage right now. Yeah, and by that, it's not a

885
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,879
Speaker 2: tailor thing. It's a music thing.

886
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:18,439
Speaker 1: You know.

887
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 2: My taste in music. I like cheap pop music that

888
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 2: makes me bop my head a little bit.

889
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:25,399
Speaker 1: Big train guy over here.

890
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:30,760
Speaker 2: Love train, Yeah, love the train tracks, But those types

891
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 2: of jams, that's my thing. Solidwife Kate a little bit more.

892
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 2: I'm sure she wouldn't mind me saying this. Much more

893
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:43,760
Speaker 2: into the deeper emotional, sleepier tunes that are out there. Yeah,

894
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 2: the more recent t Swift, more recent love folklore and

895
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 2: whatever more midnights and now this when she's all into it.

896
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 2: We've been listening to it NonStop. So it's definitely not

897
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,399
Speaker 2: my favorite that I've heard. I've listened to it enough

898
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 2: though that some of the tracks have grown on me,

899
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 2: and I do think it's pretty good. This is probably

900
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 2: Mark Spector went a little bit overboard with this.

901
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: Maybe can I ask can I ask you where my

902
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 1: head has gone recently? Oh, with regard to our dear

903
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: friend Taylor Swift, I hope it works out with her

904
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 1: in charge.

905
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 2: Dear friend Taylor Swift. Yeah, she's been on the podcast

906
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 2: many times. She's from Pa, right from like, yeah.

907
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 1: Twenty minutes down the road. Yeah, so she's local to you. Yeah.

908
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,879
Speaker 1: Uh so I'm rooting for her and Travis Kelcey as

909
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: I have nothing. He just seems like a likable dude

910
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 1: to me, and so I'm worried what happens if they

911
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 1: don't make it. I'm worried if he's gonna because he

912
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,439
Speaker 1: just seems like a very earnest guy. I don't know him.

913
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 1: Maybe he's not. He seems like a pretty earnest guy. Like,

914
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,919
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen to his game? I know he's older now,

915
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 1: he's sort of an elder statesman of an NFL tight end,

916
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: But like, is she gonna? Is she gonna trash him?

917
00:47:56,400 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: And maybe he'll deserve it if it goes sideways, Our

918
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:02,919
Speaker 1: dear Travis. Kate.

919
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 2: Kate tells me that she didn't really trash the last guy.

920
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,839
Speaker 2: Oh really, she didn't really? Well, two guys, I don't

921
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 2: know one. Maybe Kate just doesn't fully know how to decipher. No, Well,

922
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 2: she she knows way better than I do. Me too,

923
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 2: But yeah, she kind of trashed one, but didn't trash

924
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 2: another guy that folks were expecting she might trash more.

925
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 2: I wish I can remember the name. I caught a

926
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 2: start Joel went here. I'm looking it up, Joel. When

927
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 2: that guy she was not built like Joe Walt. No, no, no,

928
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 2: different guy. Different guy wasn't in the draft. Yeah. Anyway,

929
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 2: I'm okay with it. I'm pro tailor with protailor on

930
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 2: this show. We've always been okay, fair. Where do we

931
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 2: want to go next? Dan?

932
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: Okay? This is from a Clemson board. We'll stay off

933
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:44,399
Speaker 1: topic for a little while. This is from replay Man

934
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 1: April thirtieth, twenty twenty four eleven, Witching Hour Tie. This

935
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:58,320
Speaker 1: is posted subject Swingers Convention. Sure guessing not about the

936
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:02,760
Speaker 1: seminole John Favreau movie Swingers Convention this week at burls Ford?

937
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 1: Is this rumor true?

938
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 2: And the fall ups?

939
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 1: What got me sold? By the way, it looks like

940
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 1: it's a campground. Okay, girls Ford campground?

941
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 2: What a what a spot for a swingers convention?

942
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 1: I agree? Uh. Then the follow up from fast Chad,

943
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: who looks like can you decipher what I'm deciphering? From

944
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 1: fast Chad's avatar here, it's definitely a picture of the

945
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: Capitol a wintry time in the United States Capital.

946
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 2: That's correct. Leave it at that.

947
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: There's a crowd gathering and perhaps a Clemson flag in

948
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 1: there at the bottom. Is that where you're seeing from

949
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: Fast Chad.

950
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,839
Speaker 2: I would have to zoom in, but I can either

951
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 2: confirm norgy.

952
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 1: It's a wintry gathering at the United States Capitol built.

953
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 1: This is probably a chill in the air. It's anyway

954
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 1: part of the year. I would say, yeah, yeah, the

955
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 1: grace guys. Fast Chad says, Yep, it's happening. I'm dating

956
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 1: a girl that's going to be running a daycare out

957
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 1: of her pop up on Friday and Saturday night. I

958
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 1: told I told this is me adding her. I'd go

959
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 1: to help, but I'm really going just to check out

960
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 1: the scene. Most of these aren't as glamorous as they sound,

961
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 1: but every once in a while they're real bangers. If

962
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 1: anyone is going let me know, I'll see if I

963
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 1: can get Becky, which by the way, doxing the girlfriend. Yes,

964
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: to give you a discount on childcare, assuming you're bringing

965
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:40,800
Speaker 1: your kids ages six and under are welcome. I add

966
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 1: to the childcare to the childcare. So South Carolina campground

967
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 1: swingers situation.

968
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 2: Listen, whatever you're into.

969
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 1: Ah, we shamed not.

970
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:58,320
Speaker 2: I don't you know. We're not judging here. This is

971
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 2: a no judgment pod. This is just a terrific off

972
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 2: topic posting.

973
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: Why I posted publicly and not in a direct message. Well,

974
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: everybody better see this. If anybody needs childcare for this,

975
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: what's promising to be a pretty great swingers event in

976
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 1: nature in South Carolina? Now, far be it from me.

977
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 1: I don't question anybody's lifestyle. I don't question anybody's social choices.

978
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 1: But in terms of making new social connections. Yeah, outdoors

979
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 1: at a campground, I mean you're in a tent, but

980
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 1: it's still.

981
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 2: Bug adjacent, bug adjacent.

982
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, elements are at play here, weather elements. I love

983
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: the that fast chat is quick to affirm, quick to

984
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,720
Speaker 1: confirm that the event is indeed happening.

985
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 2: Smart businessman. So again, look up burls Ford.

986
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: Look it up? Is it? It is what I'm looking

987
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:01,800
Speaker 1: at right.

988
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 2: I'm looking this up now burrows.

989
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 1: Ford, South Carolina.

990
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, man, this is the We got to go

991
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 2: to the Google Maps view of this, the street view thing.

992
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:14,439
Speaker 2: See what we got. The street view doesn't even go back.

993
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 2: There is what I'm seeing, So you're right, this is

994
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 2: in the sticks man, I'm looking at the Oh yeah.

995
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's like a river, a creek.

996
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 2: Oh, there's bridges, beautiful countryside in South Carolina.

997
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: But how do you how do you coordinate this type

998
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 1: of event when there's no like central congregating place. There's

999
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 1: just people are setting up tents and you know, knocking

1000
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:36,800
Speaker 1: on zippers.

1001
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 2: There was there was a an issue in my hometown.

1002
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 1: Let's see, with.

1003
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 2: A dilapidated old barn and countryside like area. There's an

1004
00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 2: old farm, yeah, that somebody had co opted and turned

1005
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 2: into a meeting space for raves up and down the

1006
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:05,320
Speaker 2: Eastern seaboard.

1007
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 1: No brainer.

1008
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 2: And it was not a situation where you could park.

1009
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 2: It was not a situation where you could really have

1010
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 2: like a staging area or anything like that. It was

1011
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 2: all supposed to be on the DL And so you

1012
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 2: had a lot of like ride sharing opera. This is

1013
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,720
Speaker 2: like pre ride sharing, but a lot of people finding

1014
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:26,760
Speaker 2: ways to communicate online, sharing rides, going to a drop

1015
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 2: off point, a rally point, being shuttled by somebody else,

1016
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 2: all kind of in the name of trying to keep

1017
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 2: this under wraps, All.

1018
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 1: In the name of dropping that big nasty beat, drop

1019
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 1: the big nasty beat.

1020
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if this is one of those situations

1021
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 2: or how exactly you go about getting folks organized for

1022
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 2: something like this. My hunch is that there's a private

1023
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 2: Facebook group somewhere. Of course, that's how these things kind

1024
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 2: of see the light of day. But I'm looking at

1025
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 2: this picture.

1026
00:53:56,640 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 1: I don't somebody's dropping a pin on specifically where this happening.

1027
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 2: Somebody is sharing an iOS location. Yeah, this is I

1028
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 2: don't know if I'd want to go to.

1029
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: This, but look here, Well, here's the advantage. Right, you're

1030
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 1: sort of outside the watchful eye of Johnny Law. If

1031
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 1: you're going to a campground, right, You're not at a bar,

1032
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 1: You're not at some sort of event space, You're not

1033
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 1: at somebody's house making a bunch of noise and the

1034
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 1: neighbors are getting involved. You're sort of a way. And

1035
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 1: so if you're really going at this in an aggressive

1036
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 1: like community way, everybody's being safe, everybody's asking for the

1037
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: correct permissions, right, then it does kind of make sense.

1038
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 2: Man, what's the line look like at the childcare place afterwards?

1039
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: Yeah? That's my question is like, what is what kind

1040
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 1: of setup do we have for the kids. Off to

1041
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:57,240
Speaker 1: the side here the camp cress is. It doesn't seem ideal.

1042
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 2: I have many questions about the gathering. Why don't we

1043
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 2: close it out with this one? Just got a babysitter

1044
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 2: at home. Everybody, just get the babe danced in. Yeah,

1045
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 2: before he goes to his swinger conventions. Yeah, Dogs twenty

1046
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 2: four to seven. Stetson has a better NFL career than

1047
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 2: all six of the quarterbacks taken tonight. I believe this

1048
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 2: is some sort of prediction. Yes, yeah, I think so.

1049
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 2: Stets and Bennett. Did Stetson Bennett see any snaps last.

1050
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 1: Year stets and Bennett NFL stats? I don't believe so

1051
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 1: plays for the Rams. He went away for a little

1052
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 1: bit to better himself, which I tip my cap for

1053
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 1: tip my cap two. It does not look like he

1054
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 1: has any available stats for the Rams. Okay, so I

1055
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 1: know Matt Stafford I think asks for more money, yes,

1056
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 1: for a negotiation situation with the Rams. I don't know

1057
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: what has happened with that. But Matt Stafford's certainly not young.

1058
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 2: No, I mean, he's sort of in the twilight of

1059
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 2: his career at this point. So right now, if you're

1060
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 2: looking at the Rams depth chart. Matt Stafford, is your

1061
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 2: cue be one. Jimmy Garoppolo, who I think is now

1062
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 2: suspended for some period of time, is the is the

1063
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 2: two and stets and Bennett's the three. So it's not

1064
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 2: out of the question that stets and Bennett could get

1065
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:17,320
Speaker 2: a run at at taking a few snaps in the league.

1066
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 2: It just feels like the.

1067
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 1: First two games.

1068
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:25,319
Speaker 2: Jimmy Garopps, Yeah, it feel it feels like it's a

1069
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 2: very limited window to do so, and it feels like

1070
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 2: there is enough Ammo on the field if he does

1071
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,240
Speaker 2: get in there, that provided he's not a total disaster.

1072
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 2: I mean, they've got great receiver talent in Los Angeles, Yeah.

1073
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:42,720
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup and Pouka Nakua.

1074
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 2: Cooper, Cupp and Pooka. They've got Kyen Williams, former Notre damer.

1075
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, see having a good career. I don't know, Kion.

1076
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 2: Williams had a great year last year. Blake Koram just

1077
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:53,800
Speaker 2: drafted into the league. Will see what what he brings

1078
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 2: with him. I mean, I think By and larsa Rams

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Speaker 2: are pretty good team. Not an NFL analyst, so it

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Speaker 2: stands to reason that Stetson Bennett having maybe been in

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Speaker 2: the system a year, knows the offense has weapons around him,

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Speaker 2: could come in and be successful. To say that he's

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Speaker 2: going to have a prolonged NFL career, though I'm always

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Speaker 2: hesitant to to call that out for quarterbacks under six

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Speaker 2: foot tall.

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Speaker 1: I think he will have a better NFL career than

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Speaker 1: one of these quarterbacks. How about that?

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Speaker 2: Then?

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Speaker 1: At all six which one I just think because of

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Speaker 1: the not an NFL analytic, has become abundantly clear playing

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Speaker 1: for Sean McVay, having that kind of receiver, talent, creativity

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Speaker 1: on offense, running backs, whatever, that he could flash for

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Speaker 1: four or five games in a relief role and become

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Speaker 1: an attractive free agent or something down the line, or

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Speaker 1: a trade if candidate, If like a quarterback gets hurt

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Speaker 1: and the Rams are sitting with a really promising backup quarterback,

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Speaker 1: sure which of the six well I was going to

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Speaker 1: go through?

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Speaker 2: So like you wouldn't take him over Klea Williams' sing, I.

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Speaker 1: Have no idea. I don't know anything, neither do I

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Speaker 1: play the game.

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Speaker 2: Play the game?

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Speaker 1: Humor me, No, not over Kayla Williams at the moment, No,

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Speaker 1: Jane Daniels, Oh, it would be Bonix or Michael Pennix.

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Speaker 2: To me, I think it's Bonix. I think Bonix is

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Speaker 2: the obvious one.

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Speaker 1: Boonis at least has a good quarterback coach, and Sean

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Speaker 1: Payton I think. I don't know, and I always appreciate

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Speaker 1: teams playing at altitude. The Pennock situation just weird.

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Speaker 2: Penix might not even play man, right, There's a chance

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Speaker 2: he he never plays, yeah, right, because they signed Kirk

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Speaker 2: Cousins the game one hundred and eighty million dollars, He's

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Speaker 2: going to be the guy.

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Speaker 1: Like he'll be Jordan Love and sit for a long time.

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Speaker 2: The problem is Jordan Love was younger, and by the

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00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 2: time Penix would play in that setup, he'd be like

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00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 2: twenty seven years old, Yeah, which is clearly not where

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00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 2: the league is at nowadays. It doesn't mean he couldn't

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00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 2: be successful, just would be a bit a bit non

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Speaker 2: standard given where things stand right now. So I would

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Speaker 2: like to see Stetson Bennet play in the NFL. I

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00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 2: would really like and I and you know, when he

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Speaker 2: was in college, so much of the conversation about Stetson

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Speaker 2: Bennett was around who else should Georgia play at quarterback

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Speaker 2: instead of stets and Bennet, And it took a while

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Speaker 2: for many of us, maybe not Georgia fans, but many

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00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 2: of us on the outside to come to grips with

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Speaker 2: the fact that, like this dude's just going to be

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Speaker 2: the quarterback, and he's really good as a college quarterback,

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Speaker 2: full stop. He was very, very good. He's going down

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Speaker 2: as one of the greatest ever, certainly for Georgia and

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Speaker 2: the SEC or whatever else. And so it's guys like

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Speaker 2: that that have i'll say a little bit of a

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00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 2: t bow complex in that they were interesting players in

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00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 2: college for a multitude of reasons. Neither of them necessarily

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00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 2: projected all that well to the next level, but there

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00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 2: was this inherent curiosity around what would happen if they

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00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 2: got a few snaps. And I feel that about Stetson Bennett.

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Speaker 2: You know, I think it'd be a good story for

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Speaker 2: stets and Bennett to step in and actually be productive

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Speaker 2: on the next level.

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Speaker 1: I've no idea if it's a good story, but I

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01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 1: want to see it.

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01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 2: I think it'd be a good story. I would like

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01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 2: to see it. Fair enough, all right, any of these

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01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 2: other ones here that you want to address quickly, We've got,

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Speaker 2: like I.

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Speaker 1: Think we should circle back to burls Ford. If anybody out.

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Speaker 2: There is a reballer going to Burl's Ford.

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01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, we want a thorough write up of your experience,

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01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 1: what you saw first person on the ground.

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Speaker 2: Report this is or if you've just been to Burl's

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01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 2: Ford for like an action camping thing, just local knowledge

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01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 2: would be helpful. Here, solid verbal, how do you think

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Speaker 2: that aligns with a swinger's night? Yeah? Where would you

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Speaker 2: throw one?

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Speaker 1: Solid verbal?

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Speaker 2: At? Gmail dot com is the email address. We'd appreciate

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01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 2: any and all insight. Again, this is no judgment podcast,

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01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 2: No enjoy yourself.

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Speaker 2: be it on your how do you app on your phone,

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Speaker 2: computer wherever, Please do hit, like, or subscribe or follow

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Speaker 2: out for Ballers dot Com of course, is our Patreon

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Speaker 2: ad free bonus episodes get access to a couple other

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Speaker 2: perks here in the off season, Dan, can I tell

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Speaker 2: you something please?

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Speaker 1: As it relates. First of all, I wanted to ask

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Speaker 1: you something at the top of the show that I

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Speaker 1: decided to ask you at the end of the show,

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Speaker 1: how uh deleted, erased or not at all? Is your

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01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 1: digital footprint via message boards over the years, Like, if

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Speaker 1: somebody found out your username, could they go back and

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01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 1: find anything like damning that you've posted or embarrassing that

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01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:47,440
Speaker 1: you've posted, emotional that you were riled up while posting.

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Speaker 2: It has been so long since I posted on a

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Speaker 2: message board, okay, And I've always been pretty mindful of

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Speaker 2: what I'm putting out there.

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Speaker 1: But if if a forensic somebody did some some forensic

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Speaker 1: message board accounting.

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Speaker 2: I don't I don't think I've posted anything that would

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01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:10,960
Speaker 2: be too objectionable, Okay, and people who people listening to

1186
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 2: this show know that I'm not that controversial, that's true.

1187
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:16,880
Speaker 2: So if any of that stuff is out there, and

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Speaker 2: I don't even remember what my name is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, swing Guy forty four four, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: How about you. Oh, there are probably posts I regret, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there're Twitter posts regret. Yeah, there are tweets I regret

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01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 1: for sure, But I I sort of cleaned all that up,

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Speaker 1: Like I just at some point figured like, why do

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Speaker 1: I need tweets from twenty thirteen good, bad, meaningless. It's

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01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 1: like floating around like it doesn't seem like there's a reason. No,

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01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 1: so there's like some service. I'll just like get rid

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Speaker 1: of it older than a year or something. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's probably stuff I regret. I don't know. I have

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Speaker 1: no idea. I don't remember all my screen names either,

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Speaker 1: so I don't know what it's a it's been a

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Speaker 1: minute now. The other thing to add is like I

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Speaker 1: don't know the terminology for the burls forward stuff. And

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Speaker 1: we just had a couple invite us over for a

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Speaker 1: game night, and I have no idea if it's an

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Speaker 1: actual game night. Is that a code? Okay, we did

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Speaker 1: talk about like code names is one of the games

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Speaker 1: I think, and taboo, But then again, taboo could be

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Speaker 1: missing to I don't know solid verbogmail dot com.

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Speaker 2: I don't let us know is the email addressed? Let

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Speaker 2: us know my thing, but find us on social media

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Speaker 2: as well. We'd appreciate any end all of your support.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back a little bit later on this week.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to May College Football Talk, Boys and girls. Big

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01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 2: shout out to our friends over at boor Geniuses for

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Speaker 2: putting in yeomen's work time and again bringing some of

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Speaker 2: these great message board postings to light. We appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for letting us piggyback on some of your

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01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 2: hard work.

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Speaker 1: Aggregating the aggregator.

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Speaker 2: That's right for that guy over there, my good friend

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01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 2: Dan Rubinstein, for myself, tie held the brand.

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Speaker 1: Hope you had fun.

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Speaker 2: We did.

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Speaker 1: Talk to you soon.

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Speaker 2: Stay solid, peace, h