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Speaker 1: and the official Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones,
Speaker 1: Everson Walls, and Nicky Spagnola.
Speaker 3: And it's another week. It's eleven am on a Monday,
Speaker 3: and it's time for another edition of mix Shots inside
Speaker 3: the SWBC podcast studio, Bill Jones, Everson Walls and the
Speaker 3: star of the show, Mickey's Spagnola.
Speaker 4: Of this show.
Speaker 3: You're not the star Showy, it says your name third Whale.
Speaker 3: And we are here for another week. And there's a
Speaker 3: lot going on here, as a matter of fact, normally, Everson,
Speaker 3: you see two ball fields out here. There's only one
Speaker 3: football field out here. There's a big event coming up
Speaker 3: on Thursday night.
Speaker 2: And then when it rains, there's no football fields out here,
Speaker 2: can't go inside.
Speaker 5: Well they have they have facilities out there for the concert.
Speaker 3: Right And that's right, the AMC concert coming up on Thursday.
Speaker 2: Night, Thursday night, So I think football practice, if it
Speaker 2: rains again, will go across the street to Baylor Scott
Speaker 2: And why.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, they can they have a weight room that's
Speaker 3: still available.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'll get the strength and conditioning or strength
Speaker 2: probably not the.
Speaker 5: I love the the I love the place over there,
Speaker 5: the Baylor Place. It's really nice. That's really nice.
Speaker 4: We've done a couple of couple of shows in there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we did.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: There's another football team that practices over it. I don't
Speaker 2: know if it's maybe the indoor.
Speaker 3: Team, the Dallas Defenders.
Speaker 4: Maybe. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I see them every once in a while driving in there.
Speaker 2: They're outside of that outside practicing.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I never knew that was the name. I never
Speaker 4: knew the name.
Speaker 3: I didn't either until last week. I was at the
Speaker 3: Stars game, but there was a sign at the at
Speaker 3: the American Airlines showing the Dallas Defenders.
Speaker 4: You got me on that one, thank you.
Speaker 2: You know the Hey, Mickey, do you know who the
Speaker 2: head coach of the Dallas Defenders.
Speaker 4: I do not Clinton Dozell.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's right Dozel Dallas Desperado fame. What a
Speaker 3: quarterback he was for the Desperadoes Arena Football League.
Speaker 2: I think he was almost like the offensive coordinator. Well
Speaker 2: he was.
Speaker 3: He was like a coach on the field. Will McLay
Speaker 3: was the head coach once upon a time. What yeah, Dallas.
Speaker 2: So I was, well, that's how that's how he got here.
Speaker 2: They hired him away from Jacksonville, uh, to be the
Speaker 2: Desperado's defensive coordinator. But he said if he was going
Speaker 2: to take John was the head coach figurehead. Yes, it
Speaker 2: was like the monarchy, a man of many towns. So
Speaker 2: Will was sort of and Dozel were kind of running
Speaker 2: those teams because Will told him if I'm if I'm
Speaker 2: coming over to coach the desk Bridles, then I also
Speaker 2: want to be involved in scouting because he was a
Speaker 2: scout for Jacksonville, and so they said yeah, okay, So
Speaker 2: it was kind of, yeah, what.
Speaker 3: A testament to working your way up through the ranks.
Speaker 3: For Will McLay, that was going to be no idea,
Speaker 3: we're going to go down this road, but it's a
Speaker 3: great road to go down.
Speaker 2: Let me write that down because that was gonna be
Speaker 2: my Friday column, right, a testament Will McLay. Uh. Funny
Speaker 2: how we got to it. Also because of the rain
Speaker 2: and a m C. And people should know that there's
Speaker 2: a there's a big television AMC is like movies. Right,
Speaker 2: there's a there's a tent outside on the where the
Speaker 2: practice turf field is, and a parking lot also because.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know if I want to call it.
Speaker 5: I mean that's just a structure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's more than a tent. Yeah, it's it's the
Speaker 3: equivalent of what you would see at a PGA Tour event.
Speaker 3: Now the hospitality or party tents, party tents, and then
Speaker 3: behind it's going to be parking for the celebs getting
Speaker 3: driven in by their limos.
Speaker 4: Oh you know you're one of those guys.
Speaker 3: Come on, Oh yeah, right, yeah, he's one of the drivers.
Speaker 2: That's why some extra pay In case I saw Keller
Speaker 2: Parkson or something.
Speaker 4: You're like, well, you've mad many talents.
Speaker 2: That's right, you gotta be.
Speaker 4: That's right.
Speaker 3: So anyway, and off season workouts continue.
Speaker 2: With coaches on the field. We talked about it last
Speaker 2: week and they continued this week. And the rookie mini
Speaker 2: camp will be Friday, Saturday and Sunday. They get here.
Speaker 3: So when will its Will they be able to go
Speaker 3: to the a CM Awards.
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 2: If they have a bullpen for those guys, they'll be.
Speaker 3: Able to hear it. They stay right here right Uh,
Speaker 3: if there's room the rookies.
Speaker 2: Report on Fridays, the days in down the road.
Speaker 3: Ever since you recalled where you stayed right off the bat,
Speaker 3: I mean you were local in town.
Speaker 4: I was good. I was good. You never had but
Speaker 4: that was.
Speaker 2: You didn't have. Did you have a mini camp?
Speaker 4: Yeah? We had many camp for just the rookies. Uh
Speaker 4: we did. We have many for the rookies. And uh
Speaker 4: we were out there.
Speaker 5: I remember the DB's and the white receivers, uh were
Speaker 5: kind of going at and I couldn't wait to get
Speaker 5: that and get at somebody because I was still upset
Speaker 5: about not being drafted. And I was I remember I
Speaker 5: was going to go up against Doug Donaldy every time
Speaker 5: he went up because he was the first guy that
Speaker 5: they drafted. So my my focus was on on Doug Donaldy.
Speaker 5: And and here comes Tony Hill.
Speaker 2: But I thought it was just rookies.
Speaker 4: Yeah, out of there too, come Tony Hill.
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh man, I'm salivating, right like man, I
Speaker 5: get to go against Tony Hill.
Speaker 4: So I step up to the front.
Speaker 3: I was just right on the heels of Tony Hill
Speaker 3: catching a touchdown bass from Roger Starbaucht to beat Washington
Speaker 3: seventy nine.
Speaker 4: That was my moment.
Speaker 5: That was my moment, right, So I stepped up on
Speaker 5: Tony Hill like, hey, you know I stepped up a
Speaker 5: little too aggressively for his taste, because he was just there, Hey, guys,
Speaker 5: I just want to get a good look.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm up here to warm up. You know.
Speaker 5: Tony always had problems in the off season of keeping
Speaker 5: his weight, so he was out there early, you know,
Speaker 5: his big sweats on and everything. I'm out there like,
Speaker 5: hey man, I want to go against you. He goes, hey, bok,
Speaker 5: I'm just trying to get at a little warmed up.
Speaker 5: I say, okay, that's okay. Say you stepping up kind
Speaker 5: of strong? I said, yeah, I want you. He says, well,
Speaker 5: you know you want me.
Speaker 4: Let's go.
Speaker 5: So we start. I come up at him real faster.
Speaker 5: I'm a curl ride. I mean I really came at
Speaker 5: him hard, right. I didn't give him any room. And
Speaker 5: he's like, hey, look, I told you, I'm just trying
Speaker 5: to warm up. And he said okay. So he comes
Speaker 5: out the next play man. He shook me down so hard.
Speaker 5: He sent me down so hard I'm almost booke my ankle, right,
Speaker 5: and he catches the ball, he throws.
Speaker 4: It back at me. I see you in train to camp.
Speaker 3: So your attitude is an undrafted guy coming in. There's
Speaker 3: gonna be undrafted guys that are coming in here this week.
Speaker 3: What advice do you give those guys who are trying
Speaker 3: to show what they can do right off the bat.
Speaker 4: Don't sit back, don't wait, you know, don't don't you know.
Speaker 5: First of all, don't make the same mistakes you see
Speaker 5: somebody else make out there, right that's the best thing
Speaker 5: to do. You learn from somebody else's mistakes while you're
Speaker 5: out there and learning.
Speaker 4: And like I said, the main thing is show yourself.
Speaker 3: And even though there may be no reason for you
Speaker 3: to walk in here with any swagger, you come in
Speaker 3: here with some swagger.
Speaker 4: If I'm if I'm looking at I'm looking at like this.
Speaker 5: If I'm a free agent, okay, if I'm I come
Speaker 5: in and whatever for the time I run, you know,
Speaker 5: not not the four to seven.
Speaker 4: I'm talking about. If I'm one of those guys out
Speaker 4: there and I'm running like a four or five.
Speaker 5: Four four, and I'm gonna use that, you know, whatever
Speaker 5: I can do with that four four, I'm gonna show
Speaker 5: them I can use that with the four to ford.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna do all the drills correctly. I'm gonna know
Speaker 5: where the hell I'm supposed to be at all times.
Speaker 5: And at the same time, I'm going to show them
Speaker 5: that I'm eager enough to want to get out there
Speaker 5: and represent the start.
Speaker 3: And especially if a Tony Hill, a guy who at
Speaker 3: the time was four years into the league, probably when
Speaker 3: when you were a rookie of years okay, three years
Speaker 3: into the league, and that established himself in the league.
Speaker 4: You're gonna show this.
Speaker 5: Veteran, this, this is who, this is who I need
Speaker 5: to compare to.
Speaker 4: This is my this is my goal right there. That's
Speaker 4: my standard.
Speaker 5: But that was Tony Hill, But at the time before
Speaker 5: he came, it was Doug donnolly. Because Doug was the first,
Speaker 5: he was the first receiver drafted in our class, and
Speaker 5: so I was gonna go at somebody. I wasn't gonna
Speaker 5: try and prove myself against another free agent. I'm gonna
Speaker 5: try and prove myself against the best. You're the best.
Speaker 5: I want to beat the best, and that's what I
Speaker 5: told Tony Hill.
Speaker 2: So unfortunately, nowadays we have rules against that veterans can't
Speaker 2: be out there.
Speaker 5: Well, then I'm gonna it's one of the rookies. It's
Speaker 5: gonna be one of those rookies that you speak highly of.
Speaker 5: If it's a wide receiver and I'm a dB, I
Speaker 5: gotta go at you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 4: This is man the man right here.
Speaker 3: But it's basically just this weekend because they've moved back
Speaker 3: rookie camp. Now what it was before For years, it
Speaker 3: was just days after the draft and after all these
Speaker 3: free agents are signed whatever, then they have a rookie camp,
Speaker 3: then they go back home, and then they come back
Speaker 3: for off season. Now it just goes right into OTA's
Speaker 3: basically the following week.
Speaker 2: And that's why they did it, so they didn't have
Speaker 2: to go home and come back.
Speaker 3: So you're exactly, it's a rookie orientation. You're just days away.
Speaker 2: Basically for a veteran on appresse, they turned it into
Speaker 2: an orientation because before they brought these guys in and
Speaker 2: started going at it, they show up here and it's
Speaker 2: ninety degrees and these guys hadn't been doing anything than
Speaker 2: preparing for the draft and taking you know, the chicken
Speaker 2: dinner tours on their visits. Uh, and then they come
Speaker 2: in here and pull a hamstring or a quad, you know,
Speaker 2: and then and they wear them out, you know, the
Speaker 2: you know, the big story when Dez was drafted comes
Speaker 2: in here and you know he's losing his lunch out there.
Speaker 2: And so they've backed off now and it's more of
Speaker 2: a kind of walk through orientation to get them ready
Speaker 2: to show how we practice right, how we do things,
Speaker 2: and then have them ready to go for the OTAs.
Speaker 2: So no one on one probably not.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 2: Well, if there is so what on this list.
Speaker 5: Of then Bill should ask you the question, what can
Speaker 5: a free agent do?
Speaker 2: Not yet? You just show up at time to wait,
Speaker 2: wait for yeah, and learn and learn the playbook until
Speaker 2: you get to OTAs because they're I mean, looking at this,
Speaker 2: there's no rookie quarterback in this group right to throw
Speaker 2: one on one now, they they normally what they do
Speaker 2: is they bring guys in for like a tryout and
Speaker 2: have them throw. Because I think we will have a couple.
Speaker 2: Will Brier may not even qualify.
Speaker 3: To we're probably doesn't now, I think.
Speaker 2: Because this is like his third fourth year right.
Speaker 5: Well, I think if if I were going to be
Speaker 5: strategic about it, I would try my best to to
Speaker 5: find where that camp is when the when the quarterback
Speaker 5: takes his wide receivers and the dbs.
Speaker 4: They all work out together.
Speaker 3: Knock on deck, stoort today.
Speaker 2: Uncle dak Did I come and play?
Speaker 4: You know? Sometimes they go to Arizona, Right man?
Speaker 5: If I can go to Arizona and practice something, I mean,
Speaker 5: you gotta.
Speaker 4: That plane, I'll get a ticket.
Speaker 2: If you don't have any money to buy on. Probably,
Speaker 2: so they've got I think we talked about did we
Speaker 2: talk last week about a couple of the guys they sign?
Speaker 2: Maybe the full back we talked about, right Hunter lip Key?
Speaker 2: Is that how you say it? North Dakota State. They
Speaker 2: really like him. I found out that they he's versatile,
Speaker 2: not only full back full back, but he can he
Speaker 2: ran the football for North Dakota State, obviously you know,
Speaker 2: probably can play special teams. And so he was a
Speaker 2: guy that I think stood out for them in you know,
Speaker 2: agreed the terms. I guess it still is until they
Speaker 2: get here and sign. But he was one of about
Speaker 2: a dozen guys that they look like they had to
Speaker 2: come to agreements with.
Speaker 3: Well, and when you look at the history of Mike
Speaker 3: McCarthy offenses, a fullback is a very important part of
Speaker 3: it has been in the past Anyway, John Coon was
Speaker 3: a Pro Bowl fullback.
Speaker 2: For him, I think he did it by his performance
Speaker 2: against the Cowboys that here if you remember running the ball,
Speaker 2: catching the ball, scoring touchdowns by.
Speaker 3: The way, and and Lipke is six to one. He's
Speaker 3: at the combine he was six to one and a
Speaker 3: quarter inch tall, two hundred and thirty four pounds, and
Speaker 3: so he is a type that with the ability maybe
Speaker 3: it'll run between the tackles a little bit. But I
Speaker 3: would assume they're looking at hymore so as being that
Speaker 3: fullback type.
Speaker 2: Yeah, lead blocker, because unfortunately, these full backs in college
Speaker 2: don't grow on trees, right. No one goes to college
Speaker 2: and say, gosh, I want to be a lead blocker
Speaker 2: as a fullback. That this doesn't happen you turn into
Speaker 2: it because you failed, probably as a tight end or
Speaker 2: something like that. But this guy's got something to him.
Speaker 2: They really like him. I saw the other guy. One
Speaker 2: of the guys I heard that they really like is
Speaker 2: the cornerback from Louisiana Tech, Miles Brooks. He had played
Speaker 2: three years at steven F Austin and then transferred. He
Speaker 2: wanted to go to Division one and he transferred to
Speaker 2: a lot Tech for his final year. And I'm not
Speaker 2: sure what happened coming out of college high school Fluggerville.
Speaker 2: I think he was at Austin area. He had committed
Speaker 2: to Arkansas and then something I read decommitted mutually and
Speaker 2: then ended up at steven F Austin. So didn't know
Speaker 2: if there was a reason why he needed to stay
Speaker 2: close to home or what. But he was being recruited
Speaker 2: by some Division one teams before he ended up going
Speaker 2: to steven F.
Speaker 3: And he fits the profiles nearly six ' one, two
Speaker 3: hundred and one pounds, ran a four or five one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and.
Speaker 2: You know he was He had a good year at
Speaker 2: Louisiana Tech. I read where he only gave up thirty
Speaker 2: you know. And I don't know how accurate these things are.
Speaker 2: You know, quarterbacks completed passes against them at only thirty
Speaker 2: six percent rate.
Speaker 4: So why don't you trust the data? What's going on?
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know who's doing it.
Speaker 4: Where'd you get it with?
Speaker 2: They might have some high school kid looking at tape.
Speaker 3: That's that's like when you look at drop passes. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: who judges? Especially at the college level, you get a
Speaker 3: little more standardized. I guess in the NFL. Yeah, but
Speaker 3: at the college level, who's judging whether it was a
Speaker 3: drop pass or not. I mean, the ball might have
Speaker 3: been way behind the guy and he barely got his
Speaker 3: left hand on it trailing.
Speaker 5: I thought they had an official, you know, person website,
Speaker 5: not an organization, not an official NFL.
Speaker 3: It's an official website, but it's not an official person, right,
Speaker 3: that's entering the data I read.
Speaker 2: I've read one thing about him. They projected him it
Speaker 2: could be a day to prospect, probably a Day three
Speaker 2: and it said potentially a steal for the right team.
Speaker 2: So I also think his dimensions. He's six one, two
Speaker 2: hundred sounds like a safety to me. And he played
Speaker 2: safety in high school, by the way, so it might
Speaker 2: be one of those guys where they listed because they
Speaker 2: listed him as a defensive back, didn't list him as
Speaker 2: a corner or safety.
Speaker 5: I think, you say, six six feet six and one,
Speaker 5: you can still be a six solid cornerback.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it's still.
Speaker 2: Such a good size, right, and they like big corner Yeah.
Speaker 5: You start talking about the safeties here, though. Donovan Wilson
Speaker 5: is an exception, but you know, more than jay Ron
Speaker 5: is more of the guy that kind of looks more
Speaker 5: like that hybrid.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean he was invited to the combine. I
Speaker 3: mean that four or five one was it was a
Speaker 3: combine number, it was. It's not a pro day number.
Speaker 2: And he was at the East West Shrine tried game also.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's a name to keep an eye on, yes,
Speaker 3: Miles Brooks. Absolutely, Okay, all right, before we hit a break.
Speaker 3: One thing, I would like to mention one or two
Speaker 3: off the top. We got sidetracked talking ACMs, but our
Speaker 3: thoughts and prayers are with everybody over an hour and
Speaker 3: just a horrible tragedy over the weekend as well, and
Speaker 3: it's just senseless. It makes you sick of your stomach
Speaker 3: just seeing anything about it and stuff. But I just
Speaker 3: wanted to mention that off the top as well.
Speaker 4: I just know it was yesterday was a great day,
Speaker 4: beautiful day.
Speaker 5: I had just come home. We were celebrating my grandmother.
Speaker 5: She had passed on years ago, but she lived to
Speaker 5: be one hundred and four, so we were celebrating her birthday.
Speaker 5: And as soon as I got home, I turned on
Speaker 5: the TV and that's what was on. And I'm just thinking,
Speaker 5: I'm like maybe two miles from there, that's my house
Speaker 5: is maybe two miles from there, and so looking at
Speaker 5: what a beautiful day it was, everyone was out and
Speaker 5: that's why when you saw all the people there that
Speaker 5: was gathering that they had had, you know, tried to
Speaker 5: corner off. Uh, it just looked that was at the outlet,
Speaker 5: all the malls.
Speaker 3: Yesterday as well at a church in the area, as so.
Speaker 5: Many people were out there, and it's thank god it
Speaker 5: wasn't worse.
Speaker 2: You know, Stars was Stars coach Pete de Boor uh
Speaker 2: pulled the Steve Kerr at his Sunday pre game press conference.
Speaker 3: It was before he was even asked a question, he
Speaker 3: just opened and I think he woke up about it.
Speaker 3: You know, they the Stars actually they practiced here on
Speaker 3: Saturday morning, right, and then they flew to Seattle and
Speaker 3: this occurred at three point thirty in the afternoon our time.
Speaker 3: It sounded like from what Peter du Boor, the Stars coach, said,
Speaker 3: he didn't even find out about it until he woke
Speaker 3: up on Sunday.
Speaker 2: Saturday morning, and boy, he yeah, he pulled the Steve
Speaker 2: Kerr basically, you know, he didn't go off as much
Speaker 2: as Kerr like pounding the table, but he made his point, right,
Speaker 2: because if you remember, Kerr did that of course, saying,
Speaker 2: you know, we got to do something, tired of this.
Speaker 4: And yeah that was like seven incidents ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh boy, don't get me started. And
Speaker 2: Bill had to open up the window.
Speaker 3: Well it is mix shots.
Speaker 2: It is mick shots.
Speaker 3: And so anyway, our thoughts and prayers are with everybody
Speaker 3: there and we're uh, it's just unfathomable of what happened,
Speaker 3: and uh and how often it happens.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just think about that, just going shopping, you're outside
Speaker 2: the stores.
Speaker 5: I think the main thing the question I keep asking
Speaker 5: is how did this get to be the norm?
Speaker 4: You know, how did this?
Speaker 5: What did this mindset come from to to think that
Speaker 5: that would solve anything. I know that these are mental
Speaker 5: issues we're talking about, and of course we're talking about
Speaker 5: the availability to file arms, but for your mindset, you know,
Speaker 5: to even think that that would solve something, I don't
Speaker 5: understand what you're trying to do. And whatever you did,
Speaker 5: it didn't work.
Speaker 4: You know, you haven't changed anyone's minds about anything.
Speaker 2: So hell of a way to have a death wish, right.
Speaker 3: All right, Well we will continue with mixed shots in
Speaker 3: just a moment, and we'll get into some of the
Speaker 3: things that are on the table for the Cowboys going forward.
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Speaker 3: Okay, I need to review that.
Speaker 4: I'm better than you.
Speaker 3: I just need to review it because I wasn't listening
Speaker 3: at the beginning. Okay, So for those of you who
Speaker 3: aren't listening at the beginning like I wasn't. It's a
Speaker 3: multi day fan festival. We're not just talking Thursday.
Speaker 2: Right, We're talking the lead up. Okay, Tuesday and Wednesday.
Speaker 3: Okay, ACM Country Kickoff May what's the day today?
Speaker 4: Eighth?
Speaker 3: The eighth, and so May ninth is Tuesday, May tenth, Wednesday,
Speaker 3: The fund starts three pm. I just want to reemphasize
Speaker 3: when you say May ninth and tenth, for those of
Speaker 3: us who are a little slower, hard for us to
Speaker 3: put those days days. It's Tuesday, It's Wednesday, the fun
Speaker 3: starts at three o'clock.
Speaker 2: It's going to be like walking down the streets in Nashville.
Speaker 3: So we've got a country music festival here the next
Speaker 3: three days, basically basically starting at three o'clock in the
Speaker 3: afternoon on Tuesday Wednesday, and then the big event on Thursday.
Speaker 2: Probably a bunch of bands that are trying to make
Speaker 2: it and they're getting a shot at playing the pregame.
Speaker 4: So you think they have little pop ups around you know.
Speaker 3: It says the newest country music stars, pop up shops,
Speaker 3: exclusive artists, merchandise, a beer garden, food trucks, and much more.
Speaker 4: They need to do that. For hip hop, they.
Speaker 3: Need to have Dallas Cowboys signing autographs there.
Speaker 2: Well, it did say performances by the newest country music stars. Yeah, oh,
Speaker 2: pop up shots, not pop up shops, not pop up concerts.
Speaker 3: No O, I've got a question for unless you tell
Speaker 3: me what's on your legal path.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 2: This was my page of the guys that they were
Speaker 2: coming to agreements with with the undrafted free agents, And
Speaker 2: then I had a took a deep dive, uh the
Speaker 2: other day into Scott the Cowboys, Uh, Eric Scott Junior,
Speaker 2: the cornerback they drafted in the sixth round, the still
Speaker 2: the still, that's still still still the Southern Miss, Southern Mississippi.
Speaker 2: This kid.
Speaker 3: So you're touting Miles Brooks, the undrafted guy and sixth
Speaker 3: round of who they gave up a future next year's
Speaker 3: fifth round.
Speaker 2: Well that was the tip off and they had to
Speaker 2: know something about him. Uh my understanding is Sam Garza,
Speaker 2: the Mid South area scout sort of got onto him
Speaker 2: while he was playing at Southern Miss, and uh that
Speaker 2: was their first kind of knowing who this guy is.
Speaker 2: But the reason evidently he was so emotional when he
Speaker 2: got drafted because I don't know if you guys heard
Speaker 2: Jerry's call to him, the kid's voice was cracking up.
Speaker 2: He was losing it. He talked about how you know,
Speaker 2: he wasn't sure when he was going to get drafted,
Speaker 2: but he sat there and watched the whole first round,
Speaker 2: watched the whole second day, and now it's starting the
Speaker 2: sixth round and he still hadn't got drafted, right, and
Speaker 2: you know, and he was a guy that wasn't invited
Speaker 2: to the Combine, wasn't invited to the Senior Bowl, did
Speaker 2: go to the East West Shrine, game, and when he
Speaker 2: had his Pro day workout, two steps into his forty
Speaker 2: yard dash, he pulled his squad and he finished. Okay,
Speaker 2: he finished. It didn't stop, but he finished in four
Speaker 2: to seven one. So everybody wrote down four seven to
Speaker 2: one right, well.
Speaker 3: And they immediately dismissmissed him.
Speaker 2: Yes, And so he talked about how he was sitting
Speaker 2: at the at the foot of his parents' bed watching
Speaker 2: it on TV with a blanket over his head, and
Speaker 2: when he heard Jerry make the phone call, you know,
Speaker 2: he started to cry.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 2: He uh, he was from a little small town in Kansas.
Speaker 3: About Theahoor Lynnwood High School, about thirty miles west of
Speaker 3: Kansas City, Basehor. Basehor, Kansas is where he was born.
Speaker 2: And he didn't get a lot of looks out of
Speaker 2: high school. So he goes to Illinois State his red
Speaker 2: shirt freshman year. I think he played like four games
Speaker 2: if I remember, and he left, well, he got into
Speaker 2: something to the point his parents basically said you're gonna
Speaker 2: come home. You're going to Butler Community College and went
Speaker 2: tore right, Marcus Lawrence and Michael Gallop by the way,
Speaker 2: And so he goes there kind of re establishes himself
Speaker 2: gets a scholarship offerer to Southern Mississippi. And you know
Speaker 2: the first year's COVID twenty twenty, twenty twenty one, twenty
Speaker 2: twenty two. He had a really good season. But in
Speaker 2: these draft guides, like the one we put out the
Speaker 2: Star Draft Guide, he was ranked the thirty third cornerback.
Speaker 2: There was another one that had him ranked sixtieth and
Speaker 2: another one seventy sixth.
Speaker 5: Now that's where you have to question the data.
Speaker 2: Because the Cowboys used next year's fifth to go up
Speaker 2: particularly get this guy.
Speaker 4: On the sixtieth worst.
Speaker 6: So today me.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, Okay, the kid's got to have something.
Speaker 3: I just give you an idea on that. What did
Speaker 3: the Eagles do in the fourth round. They took next
Speaker 3: year's fourth round pick and traded up for the third
Speaker 3: pick in the fourth round this year to take Healey Ringo,
Speaker 3: the ch talted cornerback from Georgia who fell to the
Speaker 3: fourth round. And so that's how highly Philadelphia thought of
Speaker 3: this guy. Well, the Cowboys they traded their fifth round
Speaker 3: pick to go get Eric Scott.
Speaker 2: Right, and here's what is Southern Mississippi head coach Will
Speaker 2: Hall had to say about him. He said, if you're
Speaker 2: ever around him. He's the epitome of our culture. He
Speaker 2: really wakes up every day and chooses his attitude and
Speaker 2: chooses to respond the right way no matter what the
Speaker 2: circumstances are. He's a kid that didn't have a lot
Speaker 2: going on out of high school, made some bad decisions,
Speaker 2: ended up in junior college, and totally has transformed his life.
Speaker 2: And if you know anything about some of the kids
Speaker 2: that go to Southern Mississippi, uh, and in my days
Speaker 2: of being in Jackson, Mississippi working at the paper and
Speaker 2: knowing a little bit about Southern Mississippi, these are usually
Speaker 2: really tough kids that are pissed off because they got overlooked.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: And they've made a culture out of that at Southern Mississippi.
Speaker 4: And Reggie call you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, except that he is his talents, Well try
Speaker 2: to just who got his only start the last game
Speaker 2: of the eighty sixth season and he wasn't ready.
Speaker 5: Well it wasn't amazing an amazing athlete one of the.
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, and and so I just I just figured
Speaker 2: that when I started looking at the Cowboys, you know,
Speaker 2: really liked him. They got to know him a little better.
Speaker 2: At the East West Shrine, game, and then they brought
Speaker 2: him in on a thirty visit, so you don't waste
Speaker 2: your thirty visits, right, And so he had the foresight
Speaker 2: or I should say probably thanks to his agent, that
Speaker 2: they brought in a photographer and they mimicked the workout
Speaker 2: he would have done at his pro day, so you
Speaker 2: know that had not had pulled his quad. So they
Speaker 2: and I went and found it. He said it was
Speaker 2: on YouTube. They call it the W drill for the
Speaker 2: corners where your backpedal turn come back hard. Backpedal turn,
Speaker 2: come back hard, and they throw you the football. So
Speaker 2: they actually do a W and they filmed it and
Speaker 2: sent it out to the teams that he took visits to,
Speaker 2: and he visited four other teams too, by the way,
Speaker 2: and sent the video in and they're sitting there looking
Speaker 2: at how this kid's you know, his movement.
Speaker 4: And it's like, okay, where did he come from? Yeah?
Speaker 2: And so so he got basically a second chance at
Speaker 2: making it to the NFL, and he just sounded like
Speaker 2: a solid kid. He was so humble, so grateful. He
Speaker 2: couldn't even get through his interview with the guys here
Speaker 2: on the Draft show without kind of breaking up. So
Speaker 2: it was. It was a good story. I'm anxious to
Speaker 2: see him when he gets in here. Six almost two
Speaker 2: hundred another by the way, six cornerback.
Speaker 3: Yeah, who's the best player out of Southern Miss?
Speaker 4: Ready to call you? I'm just saying the best player?
Speaker 4: You don't think so maybe I'm not well, you can say,
Speaker 4: but I don't know how played. I don't know how
Speaker 4: he played in college.
Speaker 5: I don't know how to play in college coming out
Speaker 5: of Southern Miss a professional career coming out.
Speaker 2: Was the second round pick, but only because he had
Speaker 2: gotten in a car accident and really suffered some serious injuries. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and and they didn't trust, you know, they weren't sure
Speaker 2: what he was going to be. But let's remember when
Speaker 2: when Green Bay traded for him after his rookie year
Speaker 2: and he didn't really hardly play, they gave up a
Speaker 2: first round pick for him, and the rest is history
Speaker 2: as a matter of fact. So at the time, the
Speaker 2: head coach at Atlanta was, well.
Speaker 3: Yours this oh ninety one, Lehman Bennett, No, No, a
Speaker 3: little short Jerry Glanville.
Speaker 2: Glanville's funny story. Me and my buddy that I worked
Speaker 2: with in Jackson, and he had gone to Southern Miss.
Speaker 2: His dad was the sid at Southern Miss. We're coming
Speaker 2: out of the post Super Bowl little dinner at night
Speaker 2: when he watched the game again and whatever, And it's
Speaker 2: freezing cold in Minneapolis. I mean it's cold. The ice
Speaker 2: sculpture never never dripped the drop, right, it stayed frozen. Anyway,
Speaker 2: we're coming out and Glanville comes running out. He goes, hey,
Speaker 2: where are you guys going. We told him a hotel.
Speaker 4: That's where I'm going. I'll walk with you.
Speaker 2: Well, my friend couldn't resist because they had already made
Speaker 2: the trade. He oh, no, he hadn't made the trade yet.
Speaker 2: It was a week before and he goes, uh, yeah, coach,
Speaker 2: you know I went to Southern Miss. You know there's
Speaker 2: does Brett Fire have a chance in the league? He goes,
Speaker 2: how did he put? He said he does if he
Speaker 2: realizes by Wednesday you got to quit all that. What
Speaker 2: did he call it? Like juice squeeze and meaning drinking.
Speaker 2: He had some term for partying, right, He goes, and
Speaker 2: I don't know if he'll ever figure it out. Just
Speaker 2: like that, and the week later they traded him for
Speaker 2: a first round pick to Green Bay.
Speaker 4: So you think the accident may have been.
Speaker 2: I think it hurt his draft. That's why he made
Speaker 2: a second Yeah.
Speaker 4: You think it was assumed that he was drinking.
Speaker 2: Oh well, that part. I don't know the details, but
Speaker 2: it was. I mean, he suffered some really bad internal injuries. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and you know, I'm sure he was lucky he was
Speaker 2: in a little town like Green Bay too. But you're right,
Speaker 2: the best athlete coming out of Southern Mississippi. Yeah, you
Speaker 2: were Louisy and.
Speaker 3: First round draft pick out of Southern miss Though. Okay,
Speaker 3: who first round draft pick?
Speaker 2: Running back?
Speaker 3: Nope, it had to be a deep hunter. What Ray guy.
Speaker 5: It had to be way back. It had to be
Speaker 5: way back. There's no way that was a recent.
Speaker 3: Which, by the way, also another one, Hanford Dixon is
Speaker 3: also first. And I think.
Speaker 2: Who was the running back that ended up in Denver.
Speaker 2: I think he was from Southern Mississippi.
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Speaker 3: Did that make any sense?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 3: Yeah, the one position that you would be most concerned,
Speaker 3: where do they Where might they want to fortify even
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Speaker 3: All right, Uh, what is the one position on this
Speaker 3: team that if you lost the top starter at that
Speaker 3: position you might be in a bind?
Speaker 4: Quarterback?
Speaker 3: Before I say that before, let me before we're get to.
Speaker 2: Qualify because he knows what I'm going to say.
Speaker 3: Hold it, hold it, hold it. Sammy Winder was he
Speaker 3: in to what Mickey asked before about the running back
Speaker 3: from Southern Miss who went onto the Broncos. It was
Speaker 3: Sammy Winder, who is a fifth round pick in nineteen
Speaker 3: eighty two. All Right, the one position where if you
Speaker 3: lost the top starter at that position you might be
Speaker 3: in a bind.
Speaker 2: This is too easy for me.
Speaker 3: Producer Supreme said, quarterback. But I think that quarterback that
Speaker 3: came in last year, what was his record as the
Speaker 3: starting quarter There you go, So that's when Jack was
Speaker 3: on the team.
Speaker 2: He'd be very confident me that you can make not
Speaker 2: on the team. You didn't. That's not what he's said.
Speaker 3: Well he got hurt, yeah, and he's going to miss
Speaker 3: playing and that and this player is going to miss
Speaker 3: five or six games. And so if if that were
Speaker 3: to happen, what's the one position on the team you might.
Speaker 2: Well, since they don't really have a starter at this position, kicker.
Speaker 3: Well that didn't count. Kicker doesn't out. I thought you
Speaker 3: were going to say, well, punter too, they don't. I mean,
Speaker 3: if they lost the starter at punter.
Speaker 2: But your kicker might be able to punt, but you're
Speaker 2: not sure you have a kicker.
Speaker 3: All right, you might be able to kick forget specialists.
Speaker 3: All right, well no kicker, no, but don't think.
Speaker 2: How much the kicker meant to this team last year?
Speaker 3: Deep snap? Were they found one last we've eliminated. We've
Speaker 3: eliminated specialists from this question.
Speaker 2: All right, Okay, so the one position if they lost.
Speaker 5: Them, and we know how delicate the union is, I'm
Speaker 5: surprised this long because this union is very delicate. It
Speaker 5: was delicate last year. You know, we were, you know,
Speaker 5: juggling around trying to feel the position God, I think
Speaker 5: the guard position.
Speaker 4: If we lose a starter, we don't do well, we
Speaker 4: just don't.
Speaker 2: But you haven't established one starter yet.
Speaker 4: Well we uh Tyler Smith? Yeah, so if he goes.
Speaker 3: Down, well, well they're they're trying to go into this.
Speaker 3: If I with a different starter at guard than Tyler Smith, right.
Speaker 2: Let's put it this way. If I don't go to
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, and my excuse is I lost my guard,
Speaker 2: something else went.
Speaker 5: Wrong, well that was our excuse last year. It is
Speaker 5: trying to feel the god position.
Speaker 2: They had no problems at guard last year.
Speaker 4: They had no problems at god last year.
Speaker 2: No, Connor McGovern played very well. I wouldn't say that
Speaker 2: well enough to get twenty three contract.
Speaker 4: Well because he's only one left standing.
Speaker 2: No, he was the starter. He earned the job.
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, so he composed the offensive guard left guard
Speaker 3: about okay, think about the defense, the defense.
Speaker 2: Going through it.
Speaker 3: Okay, let's do it out loud.
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean I can find a guy to play
Speaker 2: on the defensive.
Speaker 3: The Okay, all right, go to linebacker.
Speaker 4: Okay, you lose.
Speaker 2: A little worried about linebacker.
Speaker 3: About about safety? Pretty stock there at safety? Okay, cornerback, Well,
Speaker 3: so at least you've got at least you've got two
Speaker 3: of the two of the Pro Bowl variety.
Speaker 2: Right, and and Bland showed that he can play.
Speaker 4: Okay, not even looking the defensive backfield.
Speaker 3: Okay, so we've done with the defense. Okay, we've already
Speaker 3: started on offense at the guard position. Okay. I think
Speaker 3: the idea is they would they hope that maybe a
Speaker 3: Chuma Edoga who was signed in free agency from Atlanta,
Speaker 3: who was injured last year, only played one game.
Speaker 2: Everybody's forgetting there is Farniac.
Speaker 3: Barniac is another one because he came.
Speaker 2: In a couple of games and played and did a
Speaker 2: decent job.
Speaker 3: They're working Josh Ball there, and then the plan if
Speaker 3: none of those work out, the plan would be if,
Speaker 3: assuming the tackles are healthy, that Tyler would be your
Speaker 3: starting let move inside or they moved and Terence.
Speaker 2: They moved Terrence Steel there if he's ready to play
Speaker 2: and they've got something to play with plays right tackle.
Speaker 3: And then there are free agents out there that you
Speaker 3: would get down a veteran minimum.
Speaker 4: So is there a right answer?
Speaker 2: All?
Speaker 3: Right, wide receiver? We haven't wide receiver.
Speaker 2: I think he's thinking, maybe what.
Speaker 3: Wide wide receiver?
Speaker 4: What do you got?
Speaker 3: You got Brandon Cooks? You didn't have him last.
Speaker 4: Year, who seems to be a very muscular young man.
Speaker 4: You were Have you seen him? I saw him at
Speaker 4: the home run derby.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's the problem on the jack Man. There
Speaker 3: was a there was a problem last year at wide receiver.
Speaker 3: Wouldn't you agree? Yes, when once Amari left and he
Speaker 3: had signed James Washington, but it was a minimum wage.
Speaker 3: Dat Gallup wasn't a Gallup coming off the knee injury? Right, Okay,
Speaker 3: you've kind of taken care of that this year with
Speaker 3: Gallup being further removed from his surgery, and you got
Speaker 3: Cooks and all right, we're talking about tight end. You've
Speaker 3: tried to offset the loss of Dalton Schultz. Ma he
Speaker 3: got some possibilities.
Speaker 2: But let's let's talk about Dalton Schultz just for a second.
Speaker 4: Okay, all right.
Speaker 2: I think the guy they drafted and Jake Ferguson when
Speaker 2: it comes to that.
Speaker 3: Would be Luke's schoonmaker, the guy they drafted, the guy
Speaker 3: they drafted.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I think these guys are better, are better blockers
Speaker 2: right away than Dalton Schultz. Okay, and I think one
Speaker 2: of the problems they had last year in the running
Speaker 2: game is they didn't get very good blocking at the
Speaker 2: tight end position.
Speaker 4: I agree with you.
Speaker 3: Now we say that having never seen Luke schoonmaker John Timpton.
Speaker 2: Bo if he's.
Speaker 3: As much as the rights much as Stanford produces tight
Speaker 3: ends out to be able to block. Right.
Speaker 2: Well, now, let me say this and the other guys
Speaker 2: from Wisconsin.
Speaker 5: Dalton Dalton could block when when we had the other
Speaker 5: the other tight end, Blake Jarwin, Blake Jarwin, when Blake
Speaker 5: Jordan was a starter, Dalton was that big guy that
Speaker 5: came in and he caught the little two yard passes.
Speaker 4: But he was a blocker. And I don't know what happened.
Speaker 4: Maybe he did he lose the receiving he came to,
Speaker 4: but he looked like it. No, he didn't even block
Speaker 4: as the same tight end.
Speaker 3: After he worked on the machine, he worked on that, judge,
Speaker 3: I don't know what.
Speaker 4: Happened, but he became a bad He became as bad
Speaker 4: as Jarwin.
Speaker 2: And and my assessment is not like you know some
Speaker 2: looking back and have revisionist history. He didn't get a
Speaker 2: big deal in free agency. Let's remember that one year
Speaker 2: deal to go to the Texans for as much as
Speaker 2: six million, So his base salary is guaranteed at three
Speaker 2: point something and then there's a signing bonus that he
Speaker 2: got like one point two five. So it wasn't like
Speaker 2: boy he was the cat's meow at tight end. He
Speaker 2: seemed when's the last time you heard that?
Speaker 5: Hey, Fank, can we go back on back to the press.
Speaker 2: Get back to that.
Speaker 3: Can we get back to the correct answer to the
Speaker 3: question that was supposed Are you worried about the running back?
Speaker 3: I knew the running back. Yeah, if you lose Tony.
Speaker 2: Pollard then what or if he's not ready.
Speaker 3: Or if he's not ready.
Speaker 5: We've talked about that many times on this show. Yeah,
Speaker 5: we we we assumed to it, and he will be ready.
Speaker 5: It's like as if he's just come back the same
Speaker 5: Tony Pollard.
Speaker 3: When you look at the pool of running backs and
Speaker 3: free agency right.
Speaker 2: Now, well they are already signed theirs Ronald Jones. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that doesn't give you a lot of confidence.
Speaker 3: Just like James Washington didn't give me a lot of confidence.
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, Wow, he never said that. He never
Speaker 5: said that. This is first time saying that. Fact all
Speaker 5: we've been taling James watching on the show. We're talking
Speaker 5: about his rehabbit. But we can't wait to get that.
Speaker 5: Oh he's Jack too. And he never said a word.
Speaker 2: You know what he's like I thought, guys, I said,
Speaker 2: but he never said this time he never got a
Speaker 2: chance and then he got hurt.
Speaker 4: But he was never excited anyway from the beginning.
Speaker 2: So so you want to resign Ezekiel Elliott. I have
Speaker 2: no argument against that, you know, And there's too many
Speaker 2: people out there, because I saw an argument was just
Speaker 2: the other day that well they got Ronald Jones and
Speaker 2: they said and they paid and they said they paid
Speaker 2: him this, they paid him nothing, that's ce minimum. As
Speaker 2: a matter of fact, if if Deuce Vaughan shows he's
Speaker 2: worthy of being the second.
Speaker 3: Or thing I love as a third, Donald Jones.
Speaker 2: Not on the team, that's true. I mean he got
Speaker 2: like one hundred and fifty thousand dollars signing.
Speaker 5: That's his position on the team. Yeah, I believe that.
Speaker 5: I truly believe that as well.
Speaker 2: So, but you're right, And as I've said many times,
Speaker 2: tell me who's going to replace the twelve rushing touchdowns
Speaker 2: and who's going to replace him going to twelve or
Speaker 2: fourteen on third and.
Speaker 3: One forget Okay, if Tony Poller gets hurt alongside Tony Pollard, yes,
Speaker 3: as what they've had the last four years with Zeke
Speaker 3: and Tony Pollard. Who is the guy that's alongside Tony
Speaker 3: Pollard because duce Von is the third guy. He's the
Speaker 3: satellite and.
Speaker 4: Nothing against.
Speaker 2: Get an opportunity and play well. But no one has
Speaker 2: really given him that opportunity, right, I mean he was
Speaker 2: They're in Tampa and they made sure they went and
Speaker 2: got a running by sure.
Speaker 3: And he didn't do anything at Kansas City last.
Speaker 2: Year, right, he didn't hardly play two games made.
Speaker 4: He used to be a good back in this league.
Speaker 4: He was like real years into his in his career.
Speaker 2: He just really hadn't gotten And he's not that old.
Speaker 2: I think he's like twenty five, twenty six.
Speaker 4: So it is can Hunter? Can Hunter carry this load? Hunter? Lipke? Oh?
Speaker 2: I don't know that.
Speaker 3: I would rather have him or Zeke.
Speaker 2: Oh I. I'll take my chances with Zeke.
Speaker 4: Okay, but dude, Zeke don't have a number. His number
Speaker 4: is gone.
Speaker 2: He'll you know what, whatever the dollar sign. Yes, after
Speaker 2: the dollar sign, he'll play.
Speaker 4: He will look so awkward though, wouldn't it.
Speaker 2: I mean, well, it goes back to the fifteen.
Speaker 4: Anyways, Ah, interesting number.
Speaker 2: And that's career, is that, right? Will Garri fifteen?
Speaker 4: No, that's not weird. Good doesn't exist. You don't even
Speaker 4: have to. No.
Speaker 2: I think there's an argument to be made for that.
Speaker 2: I really do. And I think too many people are
Speaker 2: just dismissing the potential of that happened.
Speaker 4: Now it comes.
Speaker 2: The only thing that would hold it up is if
Speaker 2: he says, now I got to have more money than okay, fine,
Speaker 2: because they're not going to pay him more than what
Speaker 2: two million and then incentive three million.
Speaker 3: Maybe you can disguise it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean sort of way they disguised who's
Speaker 2: I was looking up a contract. Oh, it was Schultz's contract.
Speaker 2: It was a four year deal with three years.
Speaker 3: Got the same deal as three avoidable.
Speaker 2: Years, and then they took the signing bonus.
Speaker 3: It gets announced as a nine year deal and it's
Speaker 3: actually half.
Speaker 2: The Yeah, so you could do that with him.
Speaker 4: Has anyone had a Zeke sighting?
Speaker 2: Not really. I think he did something at uh some
Speaker 2: charity thing somebody spotted.
Speaker 4: I want to see what he looks like.
Speaker 2: He didn't. Oh, yeah, in shape.
Speaker 3: We're assuming he's in shape. All right, That does it
Speaker 3: for this.
Speaker 2: Additionally, when you're a free agent, you try to stay
Speaker 2: in shape.
Speaker 4: Okay, And so we will talk about time.
Speaker 3: Talk at you again next Monday.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about seek signing and who won the ac Awards.
Speaker 3: Do you have a favorite?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Right, all right, enjoy the ACM Awards and we will
Speaker 3: see you again next Monday here on Mixshop.
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