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Speaker 1: This episode of Bustle with the Boys. The Boys is

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Speaker 1: presented by Barstool Sports.

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Speaker 2: Is that the room? Is that the green Light Pod room?

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Speaker 3: Dude, it's my office, which happens to be green because

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Speaker 3: that's my favorite color?

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Speaker 1: Is that why it was? Is that why it's called

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Speaker 1: the green Light Pod?

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Speaker 3: I mean sort of. It's kind because I didn't want

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Speaker 3: to call it like the Chris Longpod, and it just

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Speaker 3: like the Chris Long Show. But also like green light

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Speaker 3: means like we'll talk about whatever, So you know, there's

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Speaker 3: a little bit.

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Speaker 1: What that means. Is it like a psychology thing?

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Speaker 3: No, it's not a psychology think. It's like the way

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Speaker 3: I looked at it is, you know, pick an ambiguous

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Speaker 3: name because I don't want to be like the third

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Speaker 3: and Long Show, Like I don't want to be I

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Speaker 3: want something that people like, why is it called that?

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Speaker 3: I would rather do that than just be really like

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Speaker 3: dorky and over with my ship like a football.

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Speaker 1: You no, that's smart.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So right right before this, right before we got on here,

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Speaker 2: this dude Taylor hits the group chat and says, my

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Speaker 2: powers out, the powers out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he said his power went out.

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Speaker 2: He face tigns me he's like, yeah, I don't know, man,

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Speaker 2: something with my power, Like it's like flickering. So last

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Speaker 2: last last week in Nashville, like over one hundred thousand

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Speaker 2: people were without power because was that kind of like

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Speaker 2: a tornado? No? That So it's crazy because now white

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Speaker 2: Board during it like that. Nashville has been enduring it, dude.

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Speaker 2: Like two months ago it was like a tornado, which

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Speaker 2: hit us pretty bad, obviously the pandemic. But last week

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Speaker 2: there's just a thunderstorm and it took out over one

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Speaker 2: hundred thousand people with power. He was part of it,

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Speaker 2: but everything got figured out. But I guess today I.

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Speaker 3: Don't Well, I'm I'm good. If you need me to

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Speaker 3: come back in a couple of months, that's fine, And

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Speaker 3: if you need me to wait around or you want to, like,

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Speaker 3: I don't care.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, d we're chatting while I'm running this thing.

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Speaker 2: I told Taylor, I was like, hopefully your power comes

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Speaker 2: on because then you can just crash.

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Speaker 3: That's all.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to get into your charge.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna get into all your chark because I'm super

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Speaker 2: curious about all that stuff.

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Speaker 3: Interesting going alone.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, I bet I can only imagine, like I

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Speaker 2: do the stuff I feel like on my own sometimes

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Speaker 2: shout out Taylor.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's different.

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Speaker 2: It's a it's a weird vibe because no one, you know,

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Speaker 2: cares about it like you do, and you've got to

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Speaker 2: kind of find all these pivots on your own, like, oh,

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Speaker 2: no one's coming to save me, Like I got to

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Speaker 2: figure this out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not like you can work harder and make

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Speaker 3: people care what you're saying. You either just kind of

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Speaker 3: have to slowly build up an audience or not.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt.

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Speaker 2: I was listening to your green Light pod. For those

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Speaker 2: that don't know, Chris Long has a phenomenal podcast. He

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Speaker 2: runs it way better than any athlete has out there.

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Speaker 2: It's called the green Light Podcast. You can go and

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Speaker 2: subscribe to it. I was listening to your most recent one,

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Speaker 2: and I was telling you earlier how all the topics

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Speaker 2: I had of, like, oh, let's talk about the last Dance,

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Speaker 2: because you know, everybody's so intrigued with with Michael Jordan

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Speaker 2: and an athlete his mindset, an athlete's mindset and some

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Speaker 2: stuff you kind of watch and you kind of sit

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Speaker 2: back and see everybody tweeting and talking about it and

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Speaker 2: they're talking like it's some anomaly that somebody thinks that way.

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Speaker 1: Or is that competitive?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: And I was talking with my strength coach earlier, and

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Speaker 2: it's just like, yo, everybody. There's so many athletes who

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Speaker 2: are like competitive in that nature. Like we were playing

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Speaker 3: Other out, arguing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah exactly. He's like, Yo, I'm gonna run through you.

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Speaker 2: And it's like, all right, well, I hope you do it.

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Speaker 2: And I'm thinking in my mind like, yo, that's a

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Speaker 2: big dude. But you're private themselves, like yeah, fuck you, bro,

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Speaker 2: Like go ahead. But I find it so interesting because

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Speaker 2: people think like that stuff doesn't necessarily happen and doesn't

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Speaker 2: necessarily happen, and then they sat after on the last

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Speaker 2: dance and then they're like, oh, that's why he's the greatest.

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Speaker 2: It's like, yo, athletes.

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Speaker 3: I think this exposes a lot of people's and this

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Speaker 3: is natural. Like if I was watching a police movie

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Speaker 3: or like a movie about another profession where there's camaraderie, teamwork,

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Speaker 3: obviously the stakes are different. I'm not comparing football to

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Speaker 3: law enforcement or the military any of that stuff. I'm not,

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Speaker 3: but I am saying that. Like, you know, anytime there's

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Speaker 3: movie and there's outsiders looking at it, you know they're

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Speaker 3: going to take certain things that are unremarkable and make

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Speaker 3: them big deals. And I think with Jordan, to your point,

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Speaker 3: it's not that he was so competitive that he would

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Speaker 3: damn near kill to win. I think if anybody had

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Speaker 3: a winning problem, it was Jordan. Like a problem winner,

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Speaker 3: like problem gamblers. He's like a problem winner. He's close

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Speaker 3: to the borderline of stars at least that are well documented.

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Speaker 3: But to your point, there's a ton of guys who

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Speaker 3: were really competitive, but they just weren't as good as

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Speaker 3: Jordan's so it's not as well documented. And also like

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Speaker 3: it's easy to tell that story and we should hear it.

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Speaker 3: It's awesome because he's the goat to me, at least,

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Speaker 3: I don't know if he's the best player of all time.

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Speaker 3: But there's two different conversations.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, don't we're talking about the last dance. We can't

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Speaker 2: use the L word right now because.

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna use it to go down that road

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Speaker 3: because it's just so it's so pointless, but like, I

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Speaker 3: just think the reason you get to see it, and

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Speaker 3: it's a real blessing that they had all this tape.

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Speaker 3: Thank God for for for the people that unearthed this stuff,

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Speaker 3: and then he agreed to do it because the pandemic

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Speaker 3: it has saved us from a sports fan perspective, But like,

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Speaker 3: I just don't think people understand that there's plenty of

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Speaker 3: guys who just aren't as good as him that are

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Speaker 3: that competitive. But he definitely was very competitive. And the

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Speaker 3: craziest part to me was not is just general competitiveness,

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Speaker 3: but like his motive self motivation style, like making ship

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Speaker 3: up the the Bradford James thing, Like he just made

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Speaker 3: that up out of thin air, Like you're a little

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Speaker 3: bit psychotic to do that a little.

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Speaker 2: Bit, yeah, especially over like hey good game, Like that's psychotic.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, and then he made it up.

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Speaker 2: Could you imagine somebody just say hey, Chris, good game,

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Speaker 2: and you're like, all right, motherfucker.

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Speaker 3: Well he made it up. So he so he so

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Speaker 3: so like not only was it a lie, but it

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Speaker 3: so innocuous to most people be like, hey, good game,

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Speaker 3: that's insane. I mean it was like, hey, hang on, hang.

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Speaker 2: On, what's innocuous, Like this is a this is a

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Speaker 3: Innocuous would be like innocuous would be like it's not

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Speaker 3: a big deal, Like it's just a comment and passing

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Speaker 3: unless I just butchered the word, you're making me second guessing,

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Speaker 3: But MOUs means not a big deal. So like it's

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Speaker 3: fucking like somebody should how many times you've been told hey,

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Speaker 3: good game, even after somebody wore you out, Like if

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Speaker 3: Depending on the tone, it's probably not a big deal.

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Speaker 3: But to Mike, you not only made that exchange up,

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Speaker 3: but that was the exchange And like, what's the point

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Speaker 3: of telling people that if you're the one you're trying

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Speaker 3: to motivate. So it's yeah, insane to me. And then

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Speaker 3: and then on top of that, it was like George

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Speaker 3: Carl was bj Armstrong, not George Carl was a Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it was George Carl pissed him off before the finals,

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Speaker 3: like all these guys. He found motivations to win, and

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Speaker 3: like spin zone here, if Jordan could do that every game,

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Speaker 3: why didn't he do it? More make up some shit

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Speaker 3: and then just go off for thirty seven in the

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Speaker 3: first half, no doubt.

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Speaker 2: And they make it. The documentary paints the picture. So

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Speaker 2: I guess I'm gonna use the word cool because he's

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Speaker 2: sitting there and they're talking about and he's like swinging

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Speaker 1: You're kind of sitting there as an.

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Speaker 2: Athlete, like, yo, these dudes got to do whatever they

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Speaker 2: want back. I felt like anyway, I mean not just that.

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Speaker 3: I mean you mentioned the Stovia. I mean he was

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Speaker 3: talking about people ripping SIGs in the eighties and that's

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Speaker 3: absolutely true. It was true in the NFL. My pops

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Speaker 3: I mean, it was just it was just a different era, man,

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Speaker 3: And like, I'm just really glad they had this footage

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Speaker 3: because he has his own production company and he's like,

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Speaker 3: I'm just on my YouTube channel, Like on that NFL

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Speaker 3: in the day, but you know the differences. And Jordan's

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Speaker 3: like inflation for his brand. So he saved it up

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Speaker 3: and it's just like we were starved for it. But

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Speaker 3: he controls the production process here, so like when he

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Speaker 3: people are gonna hate me. He knows people are gonna

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Speaker 3: hate him. He knows people are gonna like him. What

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Speaker 3: he's comfortable sharing, he's gonna he's gonna share. I want

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Speaker 3: to know what was in the tapes that he didn't

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Speaker 3: let to the light of day. That's what the fuck

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Speaker 2: To know the same dude, because you know those dudes

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Speaker 2: who are karen A on the camera, they probably saw

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Speaker 2: some ship and heard some stories that's like, yeah, we're

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Speaker 2: not able to use that.

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Speaker 3: Even the footage I mean like just vaulted. They had

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Speaker 3: a separate room for it. I think, uh, you know,

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Speaker 3: and and the only person who had like the key

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Speaker 3: was Jordan. I don't know I heard this, and you

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Speaker 3: was just like, no, no, no, I want to know

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Speaker 3: the stuff they argued over. The producer would be like, probably,

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Speaker 3: hey man, we could use this. I promise this won't

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Speaker 3: make you look bad, et cetera. Sexcuse you're talking about

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Speaker 3: one of the most brand conscious athletes of all time,

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Speaker 3: and ironically he protected his brand to elevate the brands

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Speaker 3: of athletes, is what he did by protecting his brand,

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Speaker 3: and now guys can do everything like YouTube live, like

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Speaker 3: look at how much shit And this is the only

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Speaker 3: time I use Lebron in this documentary, But look at

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Speaker 3: Lebron's brand, which is really well done and he focuses

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Speaker 3: on a lot. Jordan put the same energy in it

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Speaker 3: That's a documentary I played with the I played with

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Speaker 3: That's what I like about him is he's unapologetically him.

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Speaker 3: I don't think anything is upfront with him. I don't

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Speaker 3: that's what people don't understand. There aren't athletes and understand

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Speaker 3: Well, there's a difference in in leadership and like mentorship.

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Speaker 3: And you know, like fast forward three years into my career.

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Speaker 3: He came to my wedding. We talked the other night

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Speaker 3: he had to push with me, And all of a sudden,

433
00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,560
Speaker 3: you know, he's not answering my questions or he's ignoring

434
00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:54,680
Speaker 3: me flat out at the locker I'm following him in

435
00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:56,480
Speaker 3: the film room, I'm like, Hey, what do I do here?

436
00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:58,160
Speaker 3: What do I do here? And I just annoyed him

437
00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,920
Speaker 3: and worked my ass off till he respected me. Now, leadership,

438
00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:06,840
Speaker 3: I would say I'll just pick two Patriots offense and defense.

439
00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:09,960
Speaker 3: Dante high Tower one of the best leaders I've ever

440
00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:14,720
Speaker 3: been around. Not only a badass football player, criminally underrated,

441
00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:18,840
Speaker 3: but he he was a guy that related to everybody

442
00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,240
Speaker 3: in the in the locker room. I think relatability is huge,

443
00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:23,400
Speaker 3: as you know, Like if you can go to any

444
00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,800
Speaker 3: lockero and talk to the guys in the locker room authentically,

445
00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,959
Speaker 3: you're a fucking candidate to be a leader. A gel guy,

446
00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:30,840
Speaker 3: a blue guy. He was that guy. But he was

447
00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,320
Speaker 3: also a guy can motherfuck you, And he was usually

448
00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,720
Speaker 3: in the right place, so he wasn't being a hypocrite

449
00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:37,960
Speaker 3: and I've seen him cuss people out. I love the

450
00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:42,040
Speaker 3: standard he set. Also, Matt Slater. Matt Slater is one

451
00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:43,840
Speaker 3: of the greatest people I've ever played with, one of

452
00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:45,440
Speaker 3: the best leaders I've ever played with, and on a

453
00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,800
Speaker 3: team with big names. Tom Brady, Julian Edelman, that sort

454
00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:52,480
Speaker 3: of thing, Like, those two guys are the leaders to me. Yeah,

455
00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:56,320
Speaker 3: and Slate under the radar is absolutely integral to that

456
00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,640
Speaker 3: team and he has compassion. He's that type of guy.

457
00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:00,840
Speaker 3: So everybody's got a different type of leadership. And those

458
00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,000
Speaker 3: two guys just stood out to me late in my career.

459
00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,119
Speaker 1: Well, I mean arguably in our profession.

460
00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,680
Speaker 2: Tom Brady is arguably the goat in the NFL and

461
00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:14,000
Speaker 2: you have you know, we're witnessing this documentary of the goat.

462
00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:18,120
Speaker 2: You know, debatable, arguable in NBA. What would you say

463
00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,560
Speaker 2: differences are with Tom and Michael Jordan?

464
00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:26,359
Speaker 3: Uh, big difference. Uh, you know Tom, you see the

465
00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,520
Speaker 3: fiery Tom on the sideline, And like I said, everybody's different.

466
00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:31,240
Speaker 3: Tom to me is the goat as far as the

467
00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:34,000
Speaker 3: quarterback is concerned. And when you're the the head of

468
00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:38,120
Speaker 3: the snake as they say you are, you know, front

469
00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,919
Speaker 3: of the line, if you're the goat quarterback, you're the

470
00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,800
Speaker 3: goat football player in my opinion. And uh, you know,

471
00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,119
Speaker 3: he was humble, he was down to earth. Everybody on

472
00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:51,600
Speaker 3: TVCs him cussing people out, throwing the tablet. Uh, you

473
00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,439
Speaker 3: know that type of shit. You don't want to and

474
00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,480
Speaker 3: I was never a receiver, so I never got that ship.

475
00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:56,920
Speaker 3: Like he was always nice to me because I was

476
00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,520
Speaker 3: a d lineman. There was no nothing he could cuss

477
00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:03,159
Speaker 3: me out about. But I just thought Tom was the

478
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,520
Speaker 3: most every man goat I ever played with, Like, treated

479
00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:11,200
Speaker 3: everybody in the building with respect, introduced himself to everybody.

480
00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:12,760
Speaker 3: I know. I told this story before and some people

481
00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:14,440
Speaker 3: were like, what's the big deal you introduced himself to you.

482
00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,920
Speaker 3: I'm like, motherfucker. When I walk in on my first

483
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:18,720
Speaker 3: day and Tom Brady walks up to me and shakes

484
00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,720
Speaker 3: my hand and he's like, I'm Tom Brady, and I'm like,

485
00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,000
Speaker 3: I know, Like that's a little thing. But that was

486
00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,919
Speaker 3: emblematic of what he did every day. And you know,

487
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:28,399
Speaker 3: he knew when to turn it on, when to be

488
00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,800
Speaker 3: an asshole, when not to be an asshole. I think, Jordan,

489
00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,920
Speaker 3: from what I understand, and this was a psychological thing.

490
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 3: In seven and eight, he was damn near like the

491
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,200
Speaker 3: player and the coach. He was Bill Belichick and Tom

492
00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,639
Speaker 3: Brady at the same time. You know, and when you

493
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,800
Speaker 3: talk to Steve Kerr, Steve Kerr says he played with

494
00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:50,360
Speaker 3: you know well knowing Tim Duncan Okay, you play, You're

495
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,720
Speaker 3: playing with Tim Duncan, the other leaders that he knows

496
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,399
Speaker 3: of the in the NBA. You played with him, and

497
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 3: it felt like you played with and for Michael Jordan.

498
00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 3: So I think that, honestly, that baseball break for him

499
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,680
Speaker 3: was partially a big deal because he didn't have to

500
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,640
Speaker 3: be a coach and a player and he could get led,

501
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 3: Like when was the last time Michael Jordan got led?

502
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 3: And so I think that was a nice break for him.

503
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 3: I think, you know, Tom and Mike, it's just different.

504
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,359
Speaker 3: Fifty three guys on the team five got here, you know,

505
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,800
Speaker 3: twelve thirteen, but they're both to goat.

506
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:25,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, shifting a little bit. You're retired now, Yeah,

507
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 2: what what is life like being retired?

508
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,200
Speaker 1: How you play? What? Eleven years?

509
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 3: Eleven years? Yeah, like, what is life like for you now?

510
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,240
Speaker 3: It's awesome. It's been one of the best years of

511
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 3: my life. I think a lot of it has to

512
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 3: do with me going out in a way that I

513
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 3: was was comfortable with, you know, on my terms, and

514
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,639
Speaker 3: going out still playing well. So while it's still sometimes

515
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,160
Speaker 3: I miss it, and there's times where you know that

516
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 3: that you know, competitor and me pokes his head out

517
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,119
Speaker 3: and I'm watching a game and I'm like, I can

518
00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:58,719
Speaker 3: make that fucking player. Are you kidding me?

519
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:00,960
Speaker 2: Like I could still do Yeah, you still feel like

520
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 2: you can go out there and make the point.

521
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 3: Yeah. But also it's nice to say, you know what,

522
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 3: I'd rather have a little bit in the tank than nothing.

523
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 3: And I can say that because when you have nothing

524
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,119
Speaker 3: in the tank as a football player, it's not just effort,

525
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,879
Speaker 3: it's your livelihood. And I'm healthy, I can play with

526
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 3: my kids. My dad played thirteen years in the league

527
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,239
Speaker 3: in the old CBA days. I know what that looks like.

528
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 3: I don't want to look like that when I'm sixty.

529
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:28,640
Speaker 3: Not in the face, my man looks flawless, but yeah,

530
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 3: I mean he looks like Benjamin Button. But you know,

531
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,680
Speaker 3: you see him try to do an external row with

532
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,399
Speaker 3: a band. I mean, like, my man is jacked up.

533
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,119
Speaker 3: And I didn't want to be like that. So this

534
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 3: has been the best year of my life down there.

535
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 3: I mean, I've been under the gun. Really, any NFL

536
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 3: football player has been under the gun for you know,

537
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 3: if you play eleven years in the league and in

538
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 3: high school, I was working towards the scholarship, you know,

539
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 3: I was lifting after practice. I was staying at the

540
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 3: facility till eight pm. Like I've been working towards this

541
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:56,920
Speaker 3: my whole life. So it's twenty years of being under

542
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 3: the gun. It feels great to be out.

543
00:23:59,640 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 1: Girl.

544
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 2: You mentioned like being that extra, that hard worker growing

545
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 2: up when you were growing up in a family.

546
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 3: Like you have.

547
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,399
Speaker 2: You have your younger brother, he's a stud. Your mom

548
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 2: is a stud too. Wasn't she a tennis player?

549
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,640
Speaker 3: Yeah? She was good. She was a good athlete, good swimmer.

550
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 3: She still plays some tennis. And then my wife and

551
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 3: her like have this rivalry.

552
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 2: Now, So did you ever feel like that expectation. I'm

553
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 2: sure you've been asked in a lot, but did you

554
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,440
Speaker 2: ever feel those expectations? Maybe not specifically from your family

555
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 2: because maybe your dad just gets it. Yeah, like those

556
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,159
Speaker 2: coaches and friends and people just growing up thinking like

557
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,880
Speaker 2: I know, everyone expects me to be the next HOWI long?

558
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, it's it's tough because you know, like you mentioned,

559
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,920
Speaker 3: my dad actually wasn't some like varsity blues dad, right,

560
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 3: He was like very He didn't push me towards football.

561
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:52,359
Speaker 3: In fact, like he was the one who was more

562
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 3: of an anchor for my ego. I mean he was like,

563
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,680
Speaker 3: you know, you'd be lucky. You know, maybe you could

564
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 3: get a D one offer and you know, maybe you're

565
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:00,920
Speaker 3: athletic enough to play D line, but I would work

566
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 3: on your guard sets. He still says he didn't say

567
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,719
Speaker 3: that shit, but I mean, like he didn't make it

568
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 3: seem like a like a big deal that he was

569
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 3: my dad. And he also tried to raise me the

570
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 3: way you know he would want to be raised, which

571
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 3: was with humility and just work ethic. Whatever you do,

572
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 3: you excel at that. It doesn't have to be football.

573
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 3: But it turned out to be football. And I'd say,

574
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 3: if you're taking that path, you know, certainly high draft

575
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 3: pick for star recruit coming out, there's a lot of

576
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 3: ways that those guys skipped to the front of line.

577
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 3: But also I look at some guys who, you know,

578
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:38,399
Speaker 3: thumbma knows it, guys who who had backgrounds like this

579
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,439
Speaker 3: or whatever. There's a flip side to that coin. And

580
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 3: that's that flip side is pressure. You know, I asked

581
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 3: those guys, you ever walk in a room and everybody

582
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 3: dislikes you and has a preconceived notion about you.

583
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,679
Speaker 2: That I was already thinking about that rookie year when

584
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 2: you were talking about you took you took your boy's job,

585
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 2: and I can only assume what your probably image was

586
00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 2: right when you walked in that building, Like.

587
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, it's not only you're not

588
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 3: only a high draft pick. Everybody assumes that you hit

589
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 3: the genetic lottery, which, by the way, I'm the third

590
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 3: best athlete in my family maybe fourth.

591
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 2: Uh and and also it's a solid family. Though I

592
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,199
Speaker 2: would be one of those haters. I'd be like, yo,

593
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 2: Chris Long, he's got the genetic dude.

594
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, your salty. Here's the thing about fucking genetics. What

595
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,199
Speaker 3: about all the other guys in the league. Do they

596
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 3: have shitty genetics? Like, and they're all going to pass

597
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 3: genetics down to kids in the generation later and people

598
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 3: are gonna be saying that about their kids. Uh So

599
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 3: did genetics change from their generation to the next? Like

600
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 3: I think as my son probably just fell down or

601
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 3: some shit.

602
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 2: Hold on, we were talking about the genetics and I

603
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 2: was the buddle was going to be whoever's perceived to

604
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,439
Speaker 2: be better than me than that means they just have

605
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 2: better genetics than me.

606
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,919
Speaker 3: Well yeah I can say that too, Like, you know

607
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 3: this from playing in the NFL, Like I listen, you know,

608
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 3: I'm not bullshit, and you there were very few teams

609
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 3: where I was a top ten athlete on the team.

610
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 3: And that's the funny thing is when your Howie Long's sun,

611
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 3: everybody assumes you could just hit a lot of You know,

612
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 3: my dad's more athletic than me. I had to work

613
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 3: for everything I had. And you know, there's some people

614
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 3: you never convinced that, and that's fine, but those are

615
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 3: people who are sidelined people. And there are also people

616
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 3: that don't understand that when when you're marked like that,

617
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 3: a great career in the NFL for eleven years, two

618
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 3: super Bowls, seventy sacks, all that shit, like team captain,

619
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 3: that's a dream for everybody else. But you still have

620
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,679
Speaker 3: these nobodies that are like on the sideline, like you

621
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 3: never be your dad. I'm like, will you never be me?

622
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 3: Like who gives a fuck? Like you're not me and

623
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 3: I'm not him, And really it doesn't matter. And I'm

624
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 3: tougher than you because I had to deal with that

625
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 3: pressure in my whole life, and so that was like

626
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 3: a skin of armor for me. If I get in

627
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:44,919
Speaker 3: the league and people are looking at me like this,

628
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,959
Speaker 3: dude's probably soft or whatever like that made me tougher

629
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 3: and you didn't have that, and I did. Okay, maybe

630
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 3: you're tougher in a lot of other ways, but I

631
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 3: had that and you did.

632
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 2: Yo, you just say you just fired me the fuck up, Chris.

633
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,080
Speaker 2: I was getting up in my seat and everything as ah.

634
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 3: Come back, Where was I going?

635
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 1: Where was I going?

636
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 3: With that?

637
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 2: You legit, you legit had me fired up for a moment.

638
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 3: Because I like to talk shit, okay, because because I

639
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 3: had to talk a lot of ship and this is it,

640
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 3: and this is the thing is like you know, when you're.

641
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 2: You, I can tell you had to talk a lot

642
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 2: of ship. It seems like you've been in this conversation

643
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 2: plenty of times, Like I didn't even go there, and

644
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 2: you just like you know, if somebody wants to talk

645
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 2: ship there aside.

646
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 3: You know, you have much crazy shit I've heard over that,

647
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Speaker 3: Like it's insane, like the way people twist certain things

648
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,360
Speaker 3: based on that. So like, yeah, is it awesome? It's

649
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 3: awesome to have a dad that played. He understands the game,

650
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Speaker 3: he understands what I'm going through. You know, that's great. Uh,

651
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 3: And also football gave him, you know, his kids a

652
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Speaker 3: life that he never had, Like, you know, he grew

653
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Speaker 3: up in Charlestown with not a lot and he had

654
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Speaker 3: you know, family members that helped him through. But it

655
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Speaker 3: wasn't you know, it wasn't an easy childhood. Uh for me,

656
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 3: I got that from football. So I would never resent

657
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Speaker 3: my pops career. In fact, I love it. I like

658
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Speaker 3: I my dad is is like my best friend. So

659
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Speaker 3: there's people that are like, is it annoying whatever? I'm like, Nah,

660
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 3: not really. You know, I've been extremely blessed.

661
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt.

662
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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: All those accolades you mentioned earlier that you have.

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Speaker 2: Accomplished in the NFL, the WATERBOYL organization, being host of

665
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Speaker 2: green Light Pod, what is your favorite what is your

666
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Speaker 2: favorite stat line? Of all of those accolades, what would

667
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Speaker 2: you say you're most proud of?

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Speaker 3: Uh? You know, football wise, I mean, like listen, podcasting

669
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Speaker 3: is hard and you're you know this too. I mean

670
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Speaker 3: it's really hard. So this is a this is sometimes

671
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Speaker 3: I'm more proud of a good pod than I was

672
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Speaker 3: a good game.

673
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Speaker 1: Uh dude, doesn't it hype you up?

674
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Speaker 3: Man?

675
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 2: You're like, I can do I got my when we

676
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 2: got our first, like small little sponsorship check. I wrote

677
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 2: about this in one of my blogs. I was like,

678
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 2: I was so fired up. I felt like I was

679
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Speaker 2: getting a game check because we had earned that, like

680
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,239
Speaker 2: we had created it, Like we did. You made it

681
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Speaker 2: to this little fun shit.

682
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Speaker 3: And it's and it's and you're entering a world of

683
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Speaker 3: very smart people that would have called you a meathead.

684
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Speaker 3: And yes, so I guess on the field it would be.

685
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Speaker 3: You know, I had a four year stretch that was

686
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Speaker 3: really good in Saint Louis. You know, forty sacks in

687
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Speaker 3: four years, and I'm proud of that because there weren't

688
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Speaker 3: a lot of guys that do forty and four years.

689
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Speaker 3: I mean, there were some good rushers that did that,

690
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Speaker 3: but you know, for a while there I had a

691
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Speaker 3: really good run individually and on bad teams too. So

692
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Speaker 3: that was overcoming adversity and that sort of thing. You know. Obviously,

693
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Speaker 3: the team stuff for me is being lucky enough to

694
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Speaker 3: be a part two Super Bowl teams. There's a lot

695
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 3: of luck involved in that. You got to choose the

696
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Speaker 3: right place and free agency, et cetera, and a lot

697
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 3: has to go right for you to be on a team.

698
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Speaker 3: That's why I don't like judging people on super Bowls.

699
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 3: That's why for me, I almost sometimes when I resent

700
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Speaker 3: the fact that, you know, I had a career that

701
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Speaker 3: was really productive and people will be like super Bowl Champion.

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Speaker 3: There he is, I'm like, whoa, hey, sir.

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Speaker 4: Did you guys hear me? Hey, good boy, I'm in

704
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 4: this thing.

705
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Speaker 2: Damn it, Chris.

706
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Speaker 4: I'm having a huge issue with these Zoom podcasts because

707
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 4: every fucking guy we have on this thing, it's always

708
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 4: one handsome son of a bitch. It makes us look

709
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 4: locally as ship. Again, he was Chase Rice and now

710
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 4: you got dam Did people say we're twins? Really? Yes, dude,

711
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 4: that would be a deadly duo. That would be an

712
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 4: absolutely terrifying duo.

713
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Speaker 3: You know he played at UNC. You probably talked about

714
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Speaker 3: all this. Yeah he did.

715
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Speaker 4: And I tell you what he said too, And I

716
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 4: know you can attest to this is when people say, oh,

717
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 4: I played I played here, or I played there, I

718
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 4: did this and that and the other. I could have

719
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Speaker 4: gone to the NFL, however injury. However, coach didn't like me,

720
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Speaker 4: so I had it. We had a little little square,

721
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Speaker 4: a little qualm with him about that. I'm not sure

722
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Speaker 4: did he do it. He said that he he he

723
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Speaker 4: brought up the fact that he did get injured. He

724
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 4: had a big season. He was in front of Zach Brown,

725
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Speaker 4: who did end up going to the NFL. So you

726
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 4: got to respect that.

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Speaker 1: Oh, you know Zach Brown, you know, I know.

728
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Speaker 3: I know stories that I know. He he uh. He

729
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 3: found his way out of Philly in the most spectacular.

730
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Speaker 2: Fashion, in the best fucking way.

731
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Speaker 3: Dude just got there. He pissed somebody off and then

732
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 3: they got torched by said somebody, and then he was gone.

733
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Speaker 4: So funny, dude, that's such a that's such a Zach

734
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Speaker 4: Broun thing. Zach Brown shout out to people that just

735
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 4: do whatever the hell they want. Yeah, Frank Sinatra my way.

736
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Speaker 4: You know what, if you live by that song, good

737
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 4: for you, man, good for you. You can't you can't

738
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Speaker 4: all be sellouts.

739
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Speaker 3: You're you're the master your universe. Man. And like I

740
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 3: envy those people, Like I like to think I got

741
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 3: a solid I got more in the pen. Do you

742
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 3: like to put a pinch of salt in the recipe?

743
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 3: I got more than a pincher. You don't give a fuck.

744
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 3: But Zach Brown got like a tablespoon.

745
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, here's that was the main course, No question,

746
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 4: you definitely did. But that's a good thing, man, People

747
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 4: don't Marilyn Monroe said, no one got no one ever

748
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 4: gets remembered following following the rules, you know. I mean,

749
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,719
Speaker 4: that's that's a big thing. I'm all about that. I

750
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 4: respect the ship out of that dude. But anyway, going

751
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 4: going back to Chase Rice real quick yet he said, hey, Chris,

752
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 4: just know the.

753
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 2: Boys on and your podcast is over.

754
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: Dude, We're hosting Taylor.

755
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 2: Now. Hey, this is green Light Podcast featuring I Love

756
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Speaker 2: and our guest is Tande of the line.

757
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Speaker 4: I just will, I just want. I didn't want to

758
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 4: go on this podcast start talking about Chase Resse. Could

759
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 4: have would have should have cut to attitude and not

760
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 4: say that. I believe he could have actually made in

761
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 4: the NFL. I was just giving him a hard time.

762
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Speaker 1: He's a boy.

763
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 4: Gotta respect him, stumbling as the.

764
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Speaker 3: Ranch athletic dude, good dude, and uh man his concerts

765
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Speaker 3: if the ladies love him?

766
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 2: Oh no, quesh, we got him around the Bachelor too.

767
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 2: When he was on the Bachelor, he told us the

768
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Speaker 2: whole spiel.

769
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Speaker 1: Dude.

770
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he's got a square jaw man. He's got

771
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 3: a jaw that can cut glass. And that's coming from

772
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Speaker 3: somebody with with a sizable mandible.

773
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Speaker 4: I tell you what, dude, jealousy.

774
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you got them cat eyes.

775
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 4: Boy, Hey, I got them eyes. That's about it. From here, Hey,

776
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 4: I'm the prettiest woman in the world. From here to here, baby,

777
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,479
Speaker 4: and they're there. Every girl envyes this ship. After that,

778
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 4: it's like small piece, y'all. Line, offensive lineman. Life's a

779
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 4: little tough out here for the boy.

780
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you, o, lineman, get really pigeonholed on the I

781
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 3: think every big white old lineman that walks in the room,

782
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 3: everybody assumes he has a small piece. And I.

783
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Speaker 2: Just you know there, you don't just come up with

784
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,879
Speaker 2: those stereotypes, you know what I mean, Like, there's some

785
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 2: data behind it, Dude. Three, That's who I'm standing by

786
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 2: in the shower if if I'm going in, Dude, it's

787
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Speaker 2: an old line.

788
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Speaker 3: I feel like you guys did We went overboard with

789
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 3: the shower talk once before and baits he got mad

790
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 3: at you, Darren Bates.

791
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we talked about we were on a

792
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,919
Speaker 2: meat peeking segment there for a second legend, Dude, dB

793
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 2: is such a legend.

794
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Speaker 3: Bro.

795
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 2: Like when that came about, I walked up to him

796
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 2: on the sideline. It was just because me and him,

797
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 2: like we just had that funny little we were like

798
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 2: the backups in that in the linebacker room and his

799
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 2: locker is.

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Speaker 1: Right next to mine with his little boom box and everything.

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Speaker 1: Walk dB.

802
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Speaker 2: How many of these guys you think would admit to

803
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Speaker 2: meet peeking in the showery cam? You Wow, boy, he's

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Speaker 2: a you know, dB bos sixty.

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Speaker 3: You've got a tablespoon of Memphis and the man's he's

806
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 3: a Memphis dude. I love that guy.

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Speaker 2: Before we go on to the next topic subject fun

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848
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Speaker 2: down playing risk. I'll walk right on downstairs. Though About

863
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 2: what are we gotten here?

864
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: Boys?

865
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 2: Who's getting destroyed tonight?

866
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 3: Yeah?

867
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:55,760
Speaker 4: What's an edible? What are you guys talking about?

868
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 3: Yeah?

869
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 2: He can't nothing that you know, nothing that you know

870
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 2: about you? Yeah, it our young son.

871
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 4: That Devil's let us everyone's talking about. It's all the

872
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 4: new rage. Is that what everyone's talking about?

873
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 3: The Devil's let us? You're you're you got a little

874
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 3: chairub down there.

875
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 4: Hey, I'm in the Bible belt.

876
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 3: Baby. Yea we whoa whoa baby.

877
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 2: Speaking?

878
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 4: Okay, So just going on that a little bit. I

879
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 4: think right after you retire, one of your first like

880
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 4: comments you made was something about marijuana. Do you guys

881
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 4: already talk about this?

882
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:23,919
Speaker 3: No?

883
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 2: No, dude, I'm just laughing because you just came in

884
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna be honest, like Chris, this is the

885
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 2: best tailor of wine we've gotten because it's always been

886
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 2: on the phone. It's blurry, there's no microphone, it's the phone. Like,

887
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 2: I'm stoked and proud right now, because he sounds like

888
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 2: a pro.

889
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:40,439
Speaker 1: He's holding that marker moving around.

890
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:41,919
Speaker 2: He's like, all right, let's go into that a little

891
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 2: bit after.

892
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 4: Shout out sharpy. We're looking for sponsors every single day.

893
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 3: Baby.

894
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 4: You know why it's blank back here, Chris. A lot

895
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,439
Speaker 4: of room, a lot of real estate to sell our soul,

896
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 4: baby us. You want to put a big leaf up here.

897
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 4: If you just let you just pay the bucks, that's

898
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 4: all we need.

899
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 3: Hashtag goals. You can write all your hashtag goals and

900
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 3: you know, right, a fake workout plan and put it

901
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 3: online like everybody else, no question, like fake this champion.

902
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 3: I got in trouble, not in trouble because I I

903
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 3: get in trouble. I think here's the problem toy in.

904
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 3: You know, uh, Nashville is not a huge football market.

905
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 3: It's a great football market, but it's not a national

906
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 3: market where if you say something it's going to hit

907
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 3: the fan. For eight years in Saint Louis, you know,

908
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 3: we were bad and nobody was watching us outside Saint Louis.

909
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 3: So you know there were people that when I got

910
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 3: to New England and in Philly, they were like, who

911
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 3: is this guy? Like I've never seen him play football? Before.

912
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 3: I've been in the league at TAM decade, Okay, so

913
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 3: I would never get in trouble for saying anything. So

914
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 3: I got conditioned to saying whatever the fuck I want.

915
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 3: I go on, Dan Patrick, and I'm retired, and I've

916
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 3: also I also assume people my musical taste. You know,

917
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 3: some of my tweets late at night, Uh, some of

918
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 3: the subject matter I like to cover. I assume people

919
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 3: know that, you know, I like the medicine. And Dan

920
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 3: Patrick asked me something about marijuana, and I'm like, it's

921
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 3: not a big deal, Like you know, I have my

922
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 3: fair share. Like on to the next point. It's it's

923
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 3: are people that naive?

924
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 2: Right?

925
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 4: I think it's at the point right now in the

926
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 4: world in not the world the United States where it's

927
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 4: such a it's such a new thing. My wife's from

928
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 4: British Columbia, and British Columbia smoking marijuana is like having

929
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 4: a beer. It's like, hey, hey, we're.

930
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:19,439
Speaker 1: Having a hoot.

931
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 4: Change a couple of channels. Not trying to rewire the

932
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 4: whole system, but it's kind of like the thing that's

933
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 4: like their deal up there. So my wife comes down

934
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 4: and you know, you know, it's everywhere people are saying smoking,

935
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,399
Speaker 4: and everyone's like, oh secretive. My wife's like, I don't

936
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 4: understand why everyone's so weird out, Like that's just that's

937
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 4: a thing, and it's crazy the bubble we live in America,

938
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 4: Like what is so taboo and what's not?

939
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 3: Well, it's funny. There's some people that really there's a

940
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 3: whole host of people for reasons that we won't get

941
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 3: into on this pod, that anything I say or do

942
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:52,439
Speaker 3: they don't like. And their response was very quickly like yeah,

943
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 3: do we get it? You smoke? Like dude with you know,

944
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 3: bonging a beer in his profile picture, I'm like, okay, dude,

945
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,399
Speaker 3: you know what you're doing is a little bit more

946
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 3: extreme than what I'm doing. I'm hitting my pen and

947
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 3: drifting off to sleep or watching a funny movie. You're

948
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 3: going out and getting beat up at a bar, or

949
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 3: you know, ruining your marriage because you're blackout drunk. Like

950
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 3: I like to drink. I still drink. I haven't drank

951
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 3: a lot in Quarantine. I still like getting fucked up

952
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 3: hanging out with my buddies and excuse to drink beer.

953
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 3: I love it, but I bring my pen with me,

954
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 3: you know, Like it's just what I do is not

955
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 3: a problem. It's not harming anybody else, And what a

956
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 3: lot of guys in the league do is not a problem.

957
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,879
Speaker 3: It's not harming anybody else. And I think it's good

958
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 3: that in the new CBA they move things a little

959
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 3: bit towards like an imaginary you know rule. It's it's

960
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,399
Speaker 3: kind of imaginary rule.

961
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 4: Well, it was already kind of like that, right, Like

962
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 4: it's it's kind of They call it the stupid test.

963
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 3: In the NFL.

964
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,800
Speaker 4: You fail, Yes, it's because you're an idiot, because literally

965
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 4: the time you can get tested is before twenty As

966
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 4: if that wasn't a coincidence, right, yeah, twentieth to the

967
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 4: end of OTA is in the first two weeks of camp.

968
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 3: But the only time you can get tested you just

969
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 3: sounded like Crystaliah.

970
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 4: Well, don't say that. Oh wow, we're trying to We're

971
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 4: stealing his stuff. We steal it all the time. Yes, dude,

972
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 4: it's bad.

973
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:10,879
Speaker 1: We can get sued so bad.

974
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, we can get sued, so bas.

975
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 3: Dude, So stupid, dude. Just Instagram page is awesome. I

976
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 3: don't know if I'm allowed to say that here, but

977
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 3: I guess my thing is you know, the more you

978
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 3: normalize it, it's not a big deal. I don't I

979
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 3: don't profess for it to be a big deal. You know,

980
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 3: I would say to a fan who's looking at me crazy,

981
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 3: like you're making it a big deal. Literally, it is

982
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,760
Speaker 3: not a big deal. And you know, all these things

983
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 3: that you know, you would think you were praising me

984
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,879
Speaker 3: for charitable contributions, Walter pay Man of the ear, all

985
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 3: that ship whatever. You think, I'm some angel, and I

986
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 3: am an angel. I am an angel that smokes the

987
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 3: devil's lettuce. And it makes no difference. Like you can

988
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 3: do all these great things in life, and you can

989
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 3: do had things in life too. It's not your character.

990
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 3: And the thing that annoyed me, my biggest pet peeve

991
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 3: by of that whole thing was not people that called

992
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 3: me some degenerate. It was people that thought they were

993
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,760
Speaker 3: like they were like my boys all of a sudden

994
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 3: because they know exactly who I am, because I smoke

995
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 3: wheed or like everything I'm doing now, they're like, oh,

996
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 3: well you're high, let's meet and smoke a jay. I'm like, dude,

997
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 3: Like my entire life doesn't revolve around that. It's something

998
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 3: that I do. It's a part of my life, but

999
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 3: it's not much more of a part where it's a

1000
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 3: bigger part than briers for no ice cream. But I

1001
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 3: was gonna say, like, it's not a bigger part than

1002
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 3: ice cream, Like you're not judging me because I eat

1003
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,839
Speaker 3: ice cream. That's not character altering. It's not a big deal.

1004
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 2: I think in like a decade, we're going to look

1005
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 2: back at this time and we're like, oh, we were

1006
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 2: so stupid just caring about the morons.

1007
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 3: It was like the people in prohibition. The people in

1008
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 3: prohibition were way smarter. Alcohol rex lives. And I'm not

1009
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 3: saying that we should stop drinking, because I am completely

1010
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 3: I got cognitive dissonance or whatever smart people call it

1011
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 3: where I'm not sure what to think about booze. I mean,

1012
00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 3: like I would never wanted to go away, and I

1013
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 3: know it's extremely harmful and his ruined. You know, my

1014
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 3: life could be twenty percent more productive and better. But

1015
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 3: I like being drunk sometimes. But but marijuana, there's just

1016
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 3: not that there's there's not that element.

1017
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I feel like you're not like for people

1018
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 4: to think that you weren't smoking we and just look

1019
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 4: at the background of your room, like Jesus Christ, my friend. Like,

1020
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 4: it's a dreamas damn thing I've ever seen in my life.

1021
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 3: This is a new room, this is the way the devil.

1022
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 3: Devil's lettuce is really taking a hold.

1023
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 4: You probably gotta grow right right behind your camera right now.

1024
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 4: You're probably staring at it.

1025
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 2: You can't say that, Hey, when was your first time?

1026
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 2: When was the first time you've laid out you? When

1027
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 2: was the first time you smoked?

1028
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 3: Honestly, like, I'm not one of those people that started

1029
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 3: in like high school, was in college, it was it

1030
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 3: was boys the Idaho. It was boys the Idaho.

1031
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:45,760
Speaker 1: He's smiling. It must be a story.

1032
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 3: There wasn't much of a story. We went out and

1033
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 3: got some forty ouncers and uh and we uh we

1034
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 3: watched Bring It On, and Uh, I got stuck. I'm

1035
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 3: like stuck on the couch, you know, Gabrielle Union whoever

1036
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 3: else is in that movie, and I'm just like, what

1037
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,959
Speaker 3: the fuck is this movie? And why can't I move?

1038
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 2: And you know, that.

1039
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 3: Was the first time, And honestly, for me, it was

1040
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 3: you know, I went through phases in my career because

1041
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 3: there were some people that told me, like, you know,

1042
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 3: it's bad for your your your testosterone or it's bad

1043
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 3: for like your whatever, and I would try to experiment

1044
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 3: with like stopping and whatever. But there was a period

1045
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 3: of my career where I was popping sleeping pills and

1046
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 3: you know how easy you can get pills in the NFL.

1047
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 3: I was popping sleeping pills in a bad way, I mean,

1048
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 3: lunessa just eating them and uh really, and that was

1049
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 3: altering kind of my mood and my personality. There's some

1050
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 3: bad rebound shit on stuff like that. And also the

1051
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 3: anxiety was, like, I can't sleep without a pill. That's terrible,

1052
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 3: and a lot of people go down the road and

1053
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 3: it sucks. And you know, probably the best day of

1054
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 3: my life from a health standpoint was getting rid of

1055
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,399
Speaker 3: those those lunesas and those sleeping pills and not having

1056
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,240
Speaker 3: to use that stuff anymore and finding a good strain

1057
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 3: because like back in the day, you just smoked whatever

1058
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 3: you could get, you know, g Miller, whatever it was.

1059
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 3: And then like at a point in my career, things

1060
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 3: got more specialized because you know, dispensaries opened and people

1061
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 3: had specific strains, and people all of a sudden were

1062
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 3: snobby about it, or maybe it was like that in

1063
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 3: the eighties and nineties and I didn't know it, but

1064
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 3: I grew up to where I could get like, okay,

1065
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:16,839
Speaker 3: this is an Indica. This is gonna put me down

1066
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 3: like an elephant train gun And that changed my life.

1067
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 1: Yo, that's funny.

1068
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 4: When did being just walked up on me? That's my daughter.

1069
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 2: She's two.

1070
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: She's turning through.

1071
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 4: She's like talking, but she's also like doing like like

1072
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 4: she just still does like Gabby, like the Gabby thing.

1073
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, I like that, like one of those

1074
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 4: minions and I'm like, hey, can you go see your

1075
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 4: mom please. Daddy's trying to talk to a man about

1076
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 4: marijuana right now. Can you please marijuana?

1077
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 2: Marijuana right now?

1078
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 3: Your eyes you're gonna get addicted to marijuana through the screen.

1079
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 4: Oh man, virtual eyes. When please go in here and watch.

1080
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 3: Paw patrol, well patrol by the way you hear the

1081
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 3: coming out with a new character this summer, are they

1082
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 3: really got to pay more attention When you got that

1083
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 3: background and a nolis on player.

1084
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 4: That's big time, baby, that's a big time I got.

1085
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 4: I gotta get on that because I'm looking for you know,

1086
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 4: July fifth is their birthday. I gotta look for birthday

1087
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 4: gifts and Mom doesn't even know about that. So I'm

1088
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 4: gonna I'm gonna be.

1089
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 3: On there, get the new Paw Patrol character. It's gonna

1090
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 3: be the hottest thing out. It's gonna be like the

1091
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 3: Ferbies were.

1092
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 4: Hey, Ferbies were a big deal.

1093
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 3: Hebies took the world by storm. Ferbies were the two

1094
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 3: thousands version of the Cabbage Batch Kids.

1095
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 1: No question.

1096
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 3: They were elite and they had like a ten year run.

1097
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 3: I feel likebies. Ferbies didn't have a TV show, though.

1098
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 3: I would say that Pokemon like that era.

1099
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: That's what I was about, catch them.

1100
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 4: Pikachu like for me, I was I was out there

1101
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 4: wheeling a deal in them card huge, Pokemon.

1102
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 2: Kid huge.

1103
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 3: Or something, and I just missed the boat.

1104
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 4: Well, were you to be fair, You're a lot older

1105
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:53,879
Speaker 4: than us, you know.

1106
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 3: I forget that sometimes.

1107
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 1: How old are you?

1108
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 3: Thirty five?

1109
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 2: Oh my god? Start to get five years?

1110
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 3: Uh?

1111
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 1: What are you twenty eight?

1112
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1113
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like to talk about my age on on camera.

1114
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 3: But YEAHI twenties and that's like the worst time of

1115
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 3: your life. The twenties thirties is so much better, dude.

1116
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 3: I swear I'm a.

1117
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 4: Firm believer that once you hit thirty it's you're literally

1118
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:18,399
Speaker 4: you might as well just be.

1119
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 3: A ghost like you. I used to be the most fatalistic,

1120
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 3: Like I approach life like you know, every day I

1121
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 3: think about dying of old age, Like I'm like, my

1122
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,359
Speaker 3: time's running out. I got to do more shit, I'm

1123
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,439
Speaker 3: running out of time, like I need to I need

1124
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 3: to attack this, like and then I sleep in and

1125
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,879
Speaker 3: take a nap. But I had that general attitude. Yeah,

1126
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 3: it's because it's because, uh, you know, life short. And

1127
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 3: when I was in my twenties, I thought the same

1128
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 3: way as you. But I turned turned thirty, and my

1129
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 3: life got more peaceful. You kind of calm down. I

1130
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 3: used to be just like a wild dog. And it's

1131
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,760
Speaker 3: not the worst thing to be a little bit domesticated,

1132
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 3: and and and and and and enjoy your life and

1133
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 3: slow things down and realize you don't have to be

1134
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 3: out one hundred was an hour you know in your

1135
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,399
Speaker 3: life all the time. Having kids slowed me down, like

1136
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 3: you know, having my two kids and you know, being

1137
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 3: a dad. Now you realize all of a sudden, you're like, Okay,

1138
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 3: this is what was missing my entire twenties. I was

1139
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:16,800
Speaker 3: like overcompensating for something, like I'm chasing something in my life,

1140
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 3: like an achievement or whether it was football or whatever.

1141
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 3: Your job is, like keeping your kids happy is all

1142
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 3: the fucking matters now, and having a great podcast.

1143
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 4: That is well, that is a very important point at

1144
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 4: the end there. I think for me, I agree with

1145
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 4: you a lot. I think when I was early twenties,

1146
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 4: like I was in college, like the only thing that

1147
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:38,359
Speaker 4: mattered was getting that duble on Saturday and how much

1148
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 4: booze can I drink between Saturday night and Friday? You

1149
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. I cut it off Thursday because

1150
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 4: I was I was, I was a pro. Then the

1151
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 4: off Yeah, no question where I came with the drinking,

1152
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 4: like you just gotta get like literally like that was

1153
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 4: how I was wired. I was like, I gotta I'm

1154
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 4: chasing girls, I'm drinking beer whatever, and then you think

1155
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 4: that's it, Like I just want to do this and

1156
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,760
Speaker 4: have fun and lift weights and I was playing meathead

1157
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 4: And the older I get, like, my biggest anxiety now

1158
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 4: is realizing that there's so much to do in this world.

1159
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 4: There's so much that you there's so many lives you

1160
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 4: can live, there's so many things you can experience, and

1161
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 4: I almost have anxiety of what if I'm not doing enough? Yeah,

1162
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,320
Speaker 4: I do a podcast, I do I do business stuff.

1163
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:21,359
Speaker 4: I obviously football is my my number one, my main

1164
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 4: thing as far as like from a business standpoint. I

1165
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 4: have a family, I have a daughter, I have a

1166
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 4: kid on the way. But it's like a lot of

1167
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 4: times that land bed at night. The things that do

1168
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 4: keep me up is like, what aren't I doing that

1169
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:30,800
Speaker 4: I could be experiencing.

1170
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 3: They could be more for fake Yeah, how slow? And

1171
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 3: you're reading like everybody's regrets. You if you google dying regrets,

1172
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 3: there's like five and you're like, fuck, I'm gonna regret

1173
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 3: that one. Yeah, I'm walking right into the trap. But

1174
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 3: like I'm gonna tell you a quick one that illustrates this,

1175
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 3: I think is, you know, right before we had kids,

1176
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 3: and I used to be definitely afraid of having kids, responsibility,

1177
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 3: you know, the codependence, Like all of a sudden, I'm

1178
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 3: not independent. I'm so independent. And my wife knows this.

1179
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 3: We've been here since college. Meg, She's awesome. She was

1180
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 3: very patient with me coming to grips with being an

1181
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 3: adult and like being ready to have a kid. But

1182
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 3: we also wanted to wait a while because I didn't want, Like,

1183
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:04,359
Speaker 3: you know, my dad was a football player. It kind

1184
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 3: of sucks when your dad's like stressed all the time

1185
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 3: and at work, and like I didn't want to have

1186
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 3: to you know, my dad told me, he's like, you

1187
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,399
Speaker 3: want to enjoy your kids. So, you know, right before

1188
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 3: we had kids, I said to Meg, I said, all right, well,

1189
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:18,320
Speaker 3: if we're going to do this, you got to promise

1190
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 3: me two things. You're gonna let me climb Everest and

1191
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 3: I got to do the entire app trail. You can

1192
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 3: like bring the kids at night, like to see me

1193
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 3: and like follow me on the trail. How unrealistic was this?

1194
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:30,280
Speaker 3: And I guess I just knew I was a total

1195
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 3: moron and was like, yep, you got it. Like that's fine.

1196
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 3: She must add foresight because the minute you know, Whalen

1197
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 3: showed up four years ago, my risk aversion, my risk aversion, sorry,

1198
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 3: became much different. And like I don't think about things

1199
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 3: like that anymore. Like I start thinking about shit that

1200
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 3: when I used to do things that were risky, Like

1201
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 3: you know, if I'm on a river and I'm drunk

1202
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 3: and I'm doing something sketchy, or like if I have

1203
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 3: some sketchy goal I used to want to. I used

1204
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 3: to want to paraglide off Kilman. John Are like, I

1205
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 3: don't think I'm gonna do that anymore, because now the

1206
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 3: thought is like, I'm not just ruining my life, I'm

1207
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 3: ruining my kids' lives. And that's thirties for you. I mean,

1208
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 3: like it just naturally happens. You don't even have to

1209
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:12,800
Speaker 3: worry about it. Stop worrying.

1210
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,360
Speaker 1: Man, you excited to be thirty. Not Taylor.

1211
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 4: No, I think you're great.

1212
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 1: Club dude. I'm glad. It's nice to have this.

1213
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 2: He explains it well, because anytime Taylor Tailor like traps man,

1214
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna Dieceton.

1215
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:25,439
Speaker 3: I just come here, not gonna die one day, they're

1216
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 3: gonna put you in a box and possibly slide you

1217
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 3: into a fireball or just bury you on the ground.

1218
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 3: But like that's not for another Well, you're play in

1219
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 3: the NFL's average ages in the sixties. You're about halfway there.

1220
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:39,919
Speaker 1: See, it's good.

1221
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 4: I'm glad just to go with that, go with my

1222
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 4: point of being thirty. The minute you hit thirty or

1223
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:48,280
Speaker 4: every day closer to death, like you're like more than halfway.

1224
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 4: Like when you hit twenty five.

1225
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 3: Every day you're closer to thirty. You know what I'm saying,

1226
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:55,760
Speaker 3: Like anytime, anytime we're talking a lot about curves right now, okay,

1227
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 3: anytime the curve is flattened, and age flattens the curve

1228
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 3: on your potential, and like your life is like this

1229
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 3: on the back end of whatever your apex is. For

1230
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 3: football players, it might be twenty three. You know, fifty

1231
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 3: years is all downhill. You are literally dying every day,

1232
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 3: So get get get moving, but also realize that life

1233
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 3: is just gonna settle you the fuck down in your thirties.

1234
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 3: You don't have a choice. You're gonna be sitting on

1235
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 3: the couch. Like I wish I was more driven, like

1236
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 3: I was in my twenties. You're just not. You get

1237
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:25,760
Speaker 3: tired of shit. That's like part of why I retired.

1238
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 3: I got tired of stupid shit and my threshold for

1239
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 3: stuff that I wasn't enjoying. Sometimes it's just like I'm

1240
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 3: not doing it anymore. I'm smart, I'm old.

1241
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 4: The thing about like being in your thirties and stuff

1242
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:37,320
Speaker 4: that you talk about like I used to want to

1243
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,799
Speaker 4: do this and that, and now I don't. I am

1244
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:42,839
Speaker 4: that way right now, there's a lot of things that yes,

1245
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 4: Sky Devian Gale will do that. I watch guys on

1246
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,240
Speaker 4: the I watched Travis Pastraana and the Boys and squirrel

1247
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 4: suits jumping on a place.

1248
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 3: I never want to do that.

1249
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 4: No, That's why I would absolutely in my head, I'm

1250
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 4: like I would do that. And I remember saying that

1251
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 4: to my wife when I first met. I was like,

1252
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 4: I want to do this.

1253
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:58,240
Speaker 3: Right, You're gonna hit that pole so hard?

1254
00:53:58,360 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 2: Dung yeah.

1255
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 4: Done. Though the thing is it's like like boom, yeah,

1256
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 4: out of there. You know what I'm saying, And it's like,

1257
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 4: this's not like that was my mindset is like, well,

1258
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 4: it kind of still is. Unfortunately, like I always think

1259
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 4: like what I need to do everything, I need to

1260
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 4: see everything and all that, and maybe maybe when I

1261
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 4: hit my thirties it'll change. But you know what, being

1262
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 4: a parent definitely does put things more into perspective for you,

1263
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 4: which has really done that for me. But like, at

1264
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 4: the same time, I do have that, you know, their

1265
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 4: devil mentality or whatever it is that you kind of

1266
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 4: want to do and experience new things, like.

1267
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 3: Why playing it's that you're still in your physical prime,

1268
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 3: You're still playing good ball, Like you're twenty eight, you're

1269
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 3: not old. A lineman played like fifty and and also

1270
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 3: like you don't really come to grips with aging until

1271
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 3: your body starts changing from a football perspective, because that's

1272
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 3: how you've defined your mortality for your entire life and

1273
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,800
Speaker 3: your career now. So like the minute you start noticing

1274
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 3: that things are a little bit different, you're going to

1275
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 3: start thinking about like, oh, I'll never feel as athletic

1276
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,359
Speaker 3: as I did last year. I'll never be as good

1277
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 3: physically as I was last year. You know, the first

1278
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 3: day camp when they tell you this is the best

1279
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 3: you're gonna feel all year, walking like, what's up, Brookie?

1280
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 3: How you feeling there? You're like I feel great. You're

1281
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:16,879
Speaker 3: like never again, and you're like that's like, that's when

1282
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 3: you have that realization. It's not training camp, it's the

1283
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 3: rest of your life. So you know, you get wiser,

1284
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 3: you just life kicks your ass, man, you can't beat it.

1285
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, that is gonna be a thing when I when

1286
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 4: I wake up one day and I feel like, oh

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Speaker 4: I'm not I'm actually either leveling off or going down.

1288
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1289
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:35,240
Speaker 1: Flattens due the curve flattens.

1290
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Speaker 2: See.

1291
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 4: But like the thing is, there's so many new things

1292
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 4: that come out every single every single year, like N

1293
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Speaker 4: A D, like O Zone, like vitamin bags, like.

1294
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 3: Sex, robots, you know, all that stuff we don't need

1295
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 3: even don't need us anymore.

1296
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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

1297
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 2: It's all good.

1298
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all gonna work out.

1299
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's I don't know. I was listening to Joe

1300
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 4: Rogan's podcast the other day and he was talking about

1301
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 4: Elon Musk and he was literally saying, like five to

1302
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 4: ten years away from not even having to communicate via

1303
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 4: like using your mouth like you and I do like this.

1304
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's scary. I mean you think about it, and

1305
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 3: I'm very I was talking about this on the pod

1306
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 3: last night because I was talking about the Terminator fight

1307
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 3: with the T one thousand were knocks me in the Lava.

1308
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 3: I I I watched that movie far too early in

1309
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 3: my life, like my parents didn't have parenal controls on

1310
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 3: the TV. I was saying, I think, like I was

1311
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 3: all an A movies at like four, and I think

1312
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 3: that's why I'm so afraid of robots. And you can

1313
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 3: call me what you want, you can call me like

1314
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 3: not progressive on robotics or automation, like, but they're gonna

1315
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 3: crush people's jobs, and eventually they're gonna get smart enough

1316
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 3: where they realize that we're just in the way like

1317
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 3: they're not. There's no passion or emotion with robots. They're

1318
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 3: just gonna one day wake up in the robot beds

1319
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 3: and they're gonna say, fuck these people, we don't need

1320
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 3: them anymore, and we're all gonna die.

1321
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 4: If I think very dead, will be dead for sure

1322
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:59,359
Speaker 4: before robots are waking up and going to sleep in beds.

1323
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 3: Will be But in the next fifteen twenty years. You

1324
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 3: know the anxiety you feel when you realize you've been

1325
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,399
Speaker 3: on your phone for six hours in a day. Yes,

1326
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:10,439
Speaker 3: you're gonna effectively become a phone. Yeah.

1327
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 2: Well, hopefully they enjoy podcasts and we'll still we'll have value.

1328
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 1: They won't kill us, you know what I'm saying right now?

1329
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 2: Yo, Hey, I enjoy busting with the boys in green Light.

1330
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 1: Let's not fucking kill those humans.

1331
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, let's not kill them. We like podcasts. But also, like,

1332
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 3: imagine if they put that chip in you, like, you're

1333
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 3: not ever gonna have to pick the phone up. You're

1334
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 3: gonna be on the phone all day when you don't

1335
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 3: have to learn anything anymore, and go through that process

1336
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 3: and you can flip a switch and gain knowledge. That's

1337
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 3: gonna be fucking crazy. It'll be scary.

1338
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 4: Are we pass the point of AI? Like from an

1339
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 4: artificial intelligence standpoint, do you think we're already too advanced

1340
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 4: that there's no going back from here? Or there's still

1341
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 4: a point in your mind for your terminator safety?

1342
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 3: Do you think, oh, we could stop here and be okay.

1343
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 3: I think that the problem with people is they don't

1344
00:57:56,640 --> 00:58:00,479
Speaker 3: know where the point of diminishing return is. Like listen,

1345
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 3: there's certain jobs that would be improved and should be

1346
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 3: eradicated because of robotics, like some dangerous job like a

1347
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 3: coal miner in a country where the safety standards aren't

1348
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 3: great or it's really sketchy or something like that, Like

1349
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 3: some dangerous ass job that people really don't want to do.

1350
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 3: But the problem is, like it's like, right now, there's

1351
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 3: this company up in Syracuse that came out with this

1352
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 3: this drone that's going to help out this fall and

1353
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 3: clean stadiums and they're gonna spray hand sanitizer just for

1354
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 3: this fall. Though it's not just for this fall, we're

1355
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 3: gonna come in. We're gonna clean some stadiums. By the way,

1356
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter if the stadium doesn't have COVID in it.

1357
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 3: It's the people I'm worried about, not the seat, you know.

1358
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 3: Like so it doesn't matter. But like, after this passes,

1359
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 3: what's gonna happen. They're gonna say, Oh, we can clean

1360
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 3: every stadium with drones. How many janitors are losing their jobs?

1361
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 3: How many people that clean stadiums are losing jobs. That's

1362
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 3: just a little example. But that stuff goes and goes

1363
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:58,439
Speaker 3: and goes, and really example, people who are bottom line

1364
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 3: interested are only interested in that, and they don't know

1365
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 3: where the point of diminishing return is. And I think

1366
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 3: eventually it gets out of control.

1367
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, Jeff Bezos is sucking us right now. It's what

1368
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 4: you're saying.

1369
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 3: He's all those motherfuckers. Dude. I can't say Jeff Bezos

1370
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 3: because I feel like he.

1371
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 4: Because he's listening right now, my order, one of our

1372
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 4: many he's listening.

1373
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 3: Fight for freedom, but not at that cost, dude, I

1374
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 3: tell you what, man that that man.

1375
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 4: Remember when Amazon came out though it was like I'm

1376
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 4: pretty sure it was like a tablet and a fire tablet.

1377
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 4: It was it like Amazon Fire.

1378
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 2: You just got books, right, it was just books.

1379
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was just books.

1380
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 4: And now it's like they're testing drones to do faster

1381
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 4: drop off. I gotta I got fucking Amazon boxes outside

1382
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 4: my door every single day. I don't even know if

1383
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 4: we ordered them. But I tell you what, when I

1384
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 4: opened that damn box, I knew I needed it.

1385
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 3: You wait a day to open the box because.

1386
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 4: No, I don't do that.

1387
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 2: I should. He wipes him down. He's got a little

1388
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 2: disinfect on wipes. He's gonna wipe.

1389
00:59:58,000 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 3: I'm a germaphoone bro.

1390
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:00,120
Speaker 2: So have you? So?

1391
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 3: Do you?

1392
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 4: Are you fully you fully believe in COVID? Do are

1393
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 4: you like the numbers are real?

1394
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 2: Editing is real?

1395
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 3: Do I understand the economy piece of it. I'm not

1396
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 3: gonna thumb my nose that people who are worried about

1397
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 3: getting back to work, But it's just how you're expressing that,

1398
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 3: like you're going to work out outside of a of

1399
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 3: a gym because you're being you think you're being oppressed

1400
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 3: and waved like American flags and shit. Like I just

1401
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 3: think it's a little bit overboard, and that's not a liberty.

1402
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:27,440
Speaker 3: You can get swollen a six by eight, Like, why

1403
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 3: are you down there in Florida? It's very Florida, you know,

1404
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 3: doing CrossFit outside of a gym, proving that you don't

1405
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 3: need a gym to exercise, Like, it's just what are

1406
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 3: we doing? Like this is unprecedented? Listen, has it been

1407
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 3: exaggerated at times? Sure, but it's also a fucking pandemic.

1408
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 3: That's a novel virus, and we don't have immunity to it.

1409
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 3: So like, what's the worst thing about waiting it out

1410
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 3: a little bit? I know that we're all very lucky,

1411
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 3: the three guys on this call. We can work from home,

1412
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 3: we have means. I'm not minimizing that, but I'm certainly

1413
01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 3: a believer in COVID. Like we've lost tens and ten

1414
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 3: thousands of lives in the United States, and it's extremely sad,

1415
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 3: and it's hard because there is this like mental struggle

1416
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 3: of like I know that if I'm younger, I'm probably

1417
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 3: not going to die for it, especially like people were

1418
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 3: under twenty three colleges coming back in the fall. Some

1419
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 3: people are like, it's so stupid that they're talking about

1420
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 3: not open colleges, but there's a flip side to that.

1421
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 3: I live in Charlottesville. There's not a ton of cases here.

1422
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 3: But if fifteen thousand students from all over the Eastern

1423
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 3: and Seaboard come back in the fall, it's going to

1424
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 3: be like a match stick. And that second surge is

1425
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Speaker 3: what I'm worried about.

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Speaker 2: You're welcome back to the episode. All right, let's shift

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Speaker 2: gears cause I think we've it's probably been like seventy minutes. Yeah,

1465
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 2: I want you to talk about chalk I want you

1466
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 2: to talk about chalk media. I want to know why

1467
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:33,600
Speaker 2: it started. You probably saw my notes. I cuss myself out, like,

1468
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 2: don't sett up for a boring answer, like I want

1469
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Speaker 2: to fucking know. You're sitting there, You're a flatline. You're

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Speaker 2: now like you were saying it earlier, you're feeling your body,

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Speaker 2: so you're having a conversation with yourself. Like, Okay, I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna start transitioning. Here's what it's going to look like

1473
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Speaker 2: for me.

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Speaker 3: Well, what do we do a lot of the time

1475
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 3: in the NFL? We bullshit? I mean that's what we

1476
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:55,479
Speaker 3: do for a living. Like we play football. We hit people,

1477
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 3: but we bullshit with each other. And people in the

1478
01:03:57,320 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 3: locker room had the most interesting unfiltered convers You talk

1479
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 3: about Twitter and people getting offended. Nobody gets event in

1480
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 3: the NFL locker room, Like there's some hard conversations at

1481
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 3: because you trust people. That's another thing about the conversation

1482
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 3: we were just having you know, I guarantee you if

1483
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Speaker 3: you know somebody personally who has a different opinion, that

1484
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 3: conversation is going to go differently than with a stranger.

1485
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 3: And that's the beauty of an NFL locker room. That's why,

1486
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 3: like we're all ready to just bullshit for hours. So

1487
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 3: my last couple of years, I'm sitting there and I'm

1488
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 3: just saying, you know, what do I want to do

1489
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 3: when I get out? Because I was terrified of retirement.

1490
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 3: I was terrified, like I was terrified of sitting still

1491
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 3: and like you, like you Taylor, talking about you know,

1492
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 3: it looks like death to me, retirement look like imminent death.

1493
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 3: And the way they make it sound, you're gonna lose

1494
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 3: your mind. In five years, you're gonna hate yourself because

1495
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 3: they never tell the good stories. So I'm scrambling my

1496
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 3: brain trying to figure out, well, it's already scrambled. Let

1497
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 3: some people tell it. But I'm I'm scrambling my brain

1498
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:50,280
Speaker 3: trying to think about what I might do. And I'm

1499
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:53,840
Speaker 3: thinking I would love to take these conversations, you know,

1500
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 3: and make it my job. It's almost unfair to have

1501
01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 3: this job. It's fun, it's hard, work. That's what I'm

1502
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 3: really but it's something I look forward to doing, talking

1503
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 3: to interesting people and uh and ranking shit, you know,

1504
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:07,440
Speaker 3: talking about whatever I want to talk about. And that's

1505
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 3: a nice thing about going alone. You were asking me

1506
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:12,440
Speaker 3: about that, will like my pod, My pod is green

1507
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 3: Light Pod. We got some listeners whatever, Like I don't

1508
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 3: keep track of that shit for the most part, honestly,

1509
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 3: the numbers whatever, because I don't think sometimes popularity is

1510
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 3: necessarily a good thing depends on who's listening, you know,

1511
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 3: like if a bunch of people you don't want to

1512
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 3: listener listening, like it's not a big deal. And also

1513
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 3: we talked about the rat race thing. Well, once you

1514
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:35,919
Speaker 3: get into media, everybody's starved for attention. Everybody wants Yeah,

1515
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 3: everybody's racing to the same lead or trying to get ahead.

1516
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 3: And I just approached this thing like, hey, I do

1517
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:45,520
Speaker 3: three pods a week. It keeps me busy. I love it.

1518
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:48,400
Speaker 3: It's something to answer to and I'm interested by people

1519
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 3: and topics and it's fun, man, I love it.

1520
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 1: Dude, up to until two am. You were up until

1521
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 1: two am last night?

1522
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:57,400
Speaker 3: Like that, I was up. I had a buddy on

1523
01:05:57,520 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 3: that got a little tipsy, and I didn't want to

1524
01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:01,720
Speaker 3: use all of it without his permission, and it was

1525
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 3: you know, it's one of those things where you're gonna

1526
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 3: ask your friend and be like, hey, you go with

1527
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 3: all that, but like at eleven, you think he's more

1528
01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 3: sober than he was at nine. So I waited till

1529
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 3: the morning and I just I readid the pod. But

1530
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:17,479
Speaker 3: uh but yeah, I mean I was up till two am.

1531
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 3: I'm definitely a night out with it. I don't know

1532
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 3: if you guys usually record around now, but I'm kind

1533
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 3: of a night out with it.

1534
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:26,400
Speaker 4: Do you do you wish you did more when you

1535
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 4: were playing like from like from a from a media

1536
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:31,920
Speaker 4: standpoint like this, like doing a podcast, because for me,

1537
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:34,840
Speaker 4: that was my biggest fear going to it. Will Will

1538
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 4: was the one that Sammy that was like, I want

1539
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:39,120
Speaker 4: to do this, Will knowing he's like towards the end

1540
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 4: of his career. His word's not mine, not trying to

1541
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:42,440
Speaker 4: throw shit at the boy us, and he wanted to

1542
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 4: put this thing.

1543
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:47,680
Speaker 3: The boy said, he said, I'm I'm running out of time,

1544
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 3: help me launch here.

1545
01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 4: I was like, all right, well jump on my back,

1546
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:52,840
Speaker 4: let's get this thing out of there.

1547
01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:55,920
Speaker 2: Hey, don't don't. Don't get it, Gray, dude. It was Oh,

1548
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 2: you're gonna do this thing?

1549
01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 1: I want to do it with you.

1550
01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, well it was yeah, but there was

1551
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 4: a lot of being nervous, like putting yourself out there

1552
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:05,520
Speaker 4: every single weson you don't have a good, good game

1553
01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:07,560
Speaker 4: and the podcast comes out people like, well, what the

1554
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 4: fuck are you doing doing a podcast when you should

1555
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:11,960
Speaker 4: be watching film. And that's a lot of the reason

1556
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:14,360
Speaker 4: why we like we do a lot before the season.

1557
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 4: I don't do podcasts during the season. But it was

1558
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:17,920
Speaker 4: there ever a time for you that you were like,

1559
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 4: you know, like, now, looking back, maybe I should have

1560
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 4: done something more like this while I was playing well.

1561
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:28,760
Speaker 3: Honestly, because I'm like you with my concerns for the

1562
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:30,800
Speaker 3: minute you don't make a play. And the hardest thing

1563
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 3: about being a defensive end is the one thing they

1564
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:35,120
Speaker 3: measure you on the sex like, and a lot of

1565
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:38,120
Speaker 3: that is dependent on things around you. So they can't

1566
01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:40,680
Speaker 3: necessarily control my career year. You know, it depends on

1567
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 3: the back end, It depends on the time you have

1568
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 3: the guys rushing next to you. It's a team sports,

1569
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 3: so like you could work your ass off and have

1570
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 3: a goose sag on a Sunday and rush really well.

1571
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:51,520
Speaker 3: And I don't want to be on that Sunday, you know,

1572
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 3: having coming in after a loss where you got a

1573
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:56,120
Speaker 3: goose sag and you're in and there on Monday and

1574
01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 3: you got to talk about stuff and look like you're

1575
01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 3: having fun and taking down. Everybody has enough time to

1576
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 3: do one podcast a week in the NFL, like we

1577
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:05,360
Speaker 3: will work our asses off, but like there's time in there,

1578
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 3: so doing it is not like some big distraction. It's

1579
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:11,200
Speaker 3: just can you handle the bullshit? And I didn't want

1580
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 3: to deal with that bullshit of people, you know, connecting

1581
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:17,679
Speaker 3: stupid dots, which I'm sure you've dealt with a little

1582
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:18,840
Speaker 3: bit and it's probably not easy.

1583
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean go through this year was definitely tough.

1584
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:22,720
Speaker 3: Tough.

1585
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:25,439
Speaker 4: The issue I had as I got suspended, right, so

1586
01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 4: I get suspended and then I was doing podcasts during

1587
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:30,840
Speaker 4: my suspension because it's like, well, you know what else

1588
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:33,800
Speaker 4: I'm gonna do because I'm working out, Like you can

1589
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 4: only work out so much in a day, you can

1590
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 4: only do so much a day. So it's like people

1591
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:41,400
Speaker 4: who are sitting and doing their nine to five job,

1592
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 4: like it's not like I'm sitting there at six thirty

1593
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:45,479
Speaker 4: tweeting at them, going, Hey, why aren't you working on

1594
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:46,719
Speaker 4: the TPS report? Asshole?

1595
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:49,439
Speaker 3: You shouldn't do it a little bit more Milton. Hey, Like,

1596
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:52,519
Speaker 3: here's the deal. The funniest thing is, and this is

1597
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:54,320
Speaker 3: down down the line of what we're talking about. You

1598
01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:57,519
Speaker 3: go out to a game on a Saturday night and

1599
01:08:57,600 --> 01:08:59,760
Speaker 3: you go on a road trip. I guess you's sitting

1600
01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:03,560
Speaker 3: at in the room like choir boys and waiting for

1601
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 3: bed check. The players who's out there eating dinner with

1602
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 3: their wives taking a bus to like some nice steakhouse.

1603
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 3: All the coaches. The coaches are the ones who actually

1604
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:15,800
Speaker 3: have to be studying the hey is in the barn

1605
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:18,680
Speaker 3: for players by Saturday night. And so like it's that

1606
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:21,800
Speaker 3: double standard of I got to sit in my house

1607
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:24,600
Speaker 3: like you know, like a church mouse. And you know

1608
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 3: that standard is not there for coaches, not there for

1609
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:30,519
Speaker 3: other executives. It's not there for other professions because people

1610
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:32,840
Speaker 3: think they kind of own players. And if I see

1611
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:34,479
Speaker 3: you doing something with your time that I don't like,

1612
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 3: especially if you're talking, if you're speaking your mind, like yeah, nahu,

1613
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:41,719
Speaker 3: and I I just knew, like the way my filter

1614
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:45,000
Speaker 3: is it wouldn't have gone well. And I got annoyed

1615
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:46,840
Speaker 3: towards the end of my career, quite honestly, because I

1616
01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 3: was speaking on things that I was passionate about that

1617
01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:52,400
Speaker 3: my quotes would blow up and get taken out of

1618
01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:56,160
Speaker 3: context or would just blow up as if I'm self important.

1619
01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 3: Like everybody has a Twitter. If I tweet something about

1620
01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 3: criminal justice reform and somebody finds it noteworthy and they

1621
01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:05,200
Speaker 3: tweet it, then all of a sudden, I'm looking for attention. Well,

1622
01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 3: imagine if I had a fucking podcast, because my podcast

1623
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 3: wouldn't be vanilla and it would make waves because I

1624
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 3: don't give a fuck. I say what I want, right,

1625
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:13,639
Speaker 3: that's that dash?

1626
01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 4: Is that tea spoon, my baby?

1627
01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:19,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that little tea spoon. You got a whole cup?

1628
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 4: You got a half cup in that thing?

1629
01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1630
01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 4: I get it, dude.

1631
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:23,720
Speaker 1: It's it's tough.

1632
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:26,439
Speaker 2: The thing that is, I might have lost Taylor with

1633
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:31,559
Speaker 2: that answer, But you know, go ahead and say, hey, Will,

1634
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:33,760
Speaker 2: let's have a conversation. You know, let's I want to

1635
01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:35,080
Speaker 2: redo this season.

1636
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 3: I'm just kidding.

1637
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:39,479
Speaker 2: The Okay.

1638
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 4: The thing that's so difficult for people to understand about

1639
01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:49,840
Speaker 4: being an NFL football player is not even just an

1640
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:51,960
Speaker 4: a football player any sport in general.

1641
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:53,519
Speaker 2: It's the ship is hard.

1642
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:57,880
Speaker 4: It's hard physically, but the mentally that is what makes

1643
01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:00,559
Speaker 4: because everybody has got so much talent, Like some guys

1644
01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:03,040
Speaker 4: have more talent than others, but everybody's got a lot

1645
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 4: of throws.

1646
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:08,439
Speaker 3: You're right, that's we had this whole time we did

1647
01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:10,680
Speaker 3: my did my wing span or my athleticism.

1648
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:13,160
Speaker 1: It was your fucking your genetics. Man, They're different, bro.

1649
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:15,759
Speaker 4: But anyway, long family, dude, the long family.

1650
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:18,200
Speaker 3: You just basically, you know, it's just it's just easy.

1651
01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:20,640
Speaker 3: I mean, you're a white guy with short arms in

1652
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 3: the NFL. How easy could it be?

1653
01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 4: That button press that button press?

1654
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:25,439
Speaker 2: Right?

1655
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:29,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, Patrick Willis didn't have any genetics, I know, right well,

1656
01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:31,280
Speaker 3: he didn't have any genetics. He had to you know,

1657
01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:33,120
Speaker 3: he just he were just worked way harder.

1658
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:37,479
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what. But anyway, the mental part of

1659
01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:40,400
Speaker 4: everything is something that people overlook all the time. How

1660
01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:42,880
Speaker 4: difficult it is to go every single week and keep

1661
01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:45,720
Speaker 4: a consistent trend of playing consistent and doing well and

1662
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 4: trying to get stats from a defensive linement. That ship

1663
01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 4: would be so hard to get a couple of games

1664
01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:52,000
Speaker 4: without a sack and then be like, funk, how do

1665
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 4: I get myself out this rut?

1666
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:56,320
Speaker 3: It's like a baseball player slum Bro was thinking the

1667
01:11:56,360 --> 01:12:00,479
Speaker 3: same thing. I used to change like things around, you know, mentally,

1668
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:04,800
Speaker 3: like like o CD person territory just to like try

1669
01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:07,000
Speaker 3: to get sacks that had nothing to do with football.

1670
01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 3: I was rethinking, like what side of the bed I

1671
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:12,320
Speaker 3: slept on? I was like, you know, not Joe bu

1672
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:15,880
Speaker 3: level ship and maybe, but it is. It's hard. And

1673
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:17,320
Speaker 3: if I was in one of those slumps and I

1674
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:19,519
Speaker 3: had to do a podcast, it would just be bad news, man.

1675
01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 3: And I'm anxious anyways, like I'm just high strung. That

1676
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:25,680
Speaker 3: would have added a lot of of a bullshit to

1677
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 3: my life.

1678
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 1: No, I'm with that.

1679
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:29,160
Speaker 2: This year.

1680
01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:32,559
Speaker 3: So what I enjoyed the podcast this year. I can

1681
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:36,560
Speaker 3: hear it that you guys lose one game in fucking October,

1682
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:38,960
Speaker 3: your podcast is all of a sudden gonna become a distraction?

1683
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:40,320
Speaker 3: Does Taylor luwan?

1684
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:41,360
Speaker 1: It's already happened.

1685
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:43,320
Speaker 2: It's already happened when I when I was when I

1686
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:45,920
Speaker 2: was not, when I was not on a team, and

1687
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:48,599
Speaker 2: the Times would lose, I would honestly get anxiety. Even

1688
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:50,479
Speaker 2: though I wasn't even on a team. I'd beg, Fuck,

1689
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:53,679
Speaker 2: it's a tough week. It's gonna be a tough week. Yeah,

1690
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:55,360
Speaker 2: I see the boy, he gets a holding penalty. I'm

1691
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:58,519
Speaker 2: yelling at the fucking TV. God damn it, my podcast tailor.

1692
01:12:58,640 --> 01:12:59,800
Speaker 2: The podcast.

1693
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:04,800
Speaker 3: Is accountable. The boy is accountable, and it is. By

1694
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:06,479
Speaker 3: the way, this is the funniest thing in the world.

1695
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:11,360
Speaker 3: I used to fucking hate y'all the Titans, and it

1696
01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:15,320
Speaker 3: wasn't like for any the Titans. I just could not

1697
01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:17,519
Speaker 3: stand the Titans. I think it was because Chris Johnson

1698
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:19,760
Speaker 3: torched us like early in my career, and it just,

1699
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 3: you know, folsome prison, which I love. They just played

1700
01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:27,479
Speaker 3: it fifty seven hundred times at the which is awesome,

1701
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:28,880
Speaker 3: and it's one of those places It's kind of like

1702
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:33,479
Speaker 3: to me West Virginia football, I wish I had experienced

1703
01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:35,320
Speaker 3: as a player somehow. I wish I lived two loves.

1704
01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:37,080
Speaker 3: It just seemed like they had some cool going on there,

1705
01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:40,080
Speaker 3: and I grew to really love what y'all have going

1706
01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:42,439
Speaker 3: on in Nashville. And last year I think the key

1707
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:44,400
Speaker 3: was a guy that I used to could not stand,

1708
01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:47,639
Speaker 3: Ryan Tannehill, so the guy couldn't stand comes to Nashville

1709
01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:51,519
Speaker 3: injects all this fucking energy into it. A team that

1710
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:54,240
Speaker 3: I hate and a guy that I hate, they joined

1711
01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:56,599
Speaker 3: together to make me love a team. I was betting

1712
01:13:56,840 --> 01:13:58,880
Speaker 3: the house on you fuckers at the end of the year,

1713
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:03,840
Speaker 3: Nashville hater to Titans fanboy, bro, I was riding with

1714
01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:04,519
Speaker 3: you all the way.

1715
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 4: I love it, dude. Everyone loves that kind of story, right.

1716
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:08,760
Speaker 4: No one wants to see the Patriots win or like

1717
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:10,960
Speaker 4: the teams that always win. You got a teammate the

1718
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:13,760
Speaker 4: Titans coming in and everybody sleeps from the Titans. That's

1719
01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:17,080
Speaker 4: the craziest thing. I mean, for understanding when I first

1720
01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:17,519
Speaker 4: got there.

1721
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:18,960
Speaker 1: It's the craziest thing.

1722
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:20,840
Speaker 4: I mean, there's you know, no and then I'm like

1723
01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:23,599
Speaker 4: kind of like like, well, it's not that crazy, guys.

1724
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:24,719
Speaker 1: You guys are nine and seven.

1725
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 3: Wait to hear Patriots fans saying they're being slept on

1726
01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 3: this year, you're gonna be like, that's the crazy.

1727
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:32,120
Speaker 4: Well, I mean they've got a point though, like if

1728
01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:35,160
Speaker 4: they're getting something, because it's like people will people thinking

1729
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:37,400
Speaker 4: that Tom Brady is leaving. Half of people are going

1730
01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:39,760
Speaker 4: to think, oh, they're done dynasty's over. And the other

1731
01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:42,080
Speaker 4: half are the you know, the Boston hardoes that are like,

1732
01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:44,080
Speaker 4: doesn't matter. We got Belichick.

1733
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:46,760
Speaker 3: We're gonna be fair. I'm not gonna lead you down

1734
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:47,080
Speaker 3: a road.

1735
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:49,519
Speaker 4: Okay, I'll go and I will I will take this drive.

1736
01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:50,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is not green light.

1737
01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:52,120
Speaker 1: This is not green light.

1738
01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:56,720
Speaker 3: I think it's fair. And any other team has to

1739
01:14:56,840 --> 01:15:00,280
Speaker 3: deal with that lowering of expectations when a Hall Fame

1740
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:04,120
Speaker 3: quarterback matriculates to another team or retirement, like that's the

1741
01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:06,000
Speaker 3: way things are. And when you have an unproven fourth

1742
01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:08,800
Speaker 3: round pick and an offense that didn't have a lot

1743
01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:10,800
Speaker 3: of weapons, you had a defense towards the end of

1744
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:12,960
Speaker 3: the year got exposed a little bit. Listen, great defense,

1745
01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:15,439
Speaker 3: but not the defense that were making it seem like

1746
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:17,920
Speaker 3: you know to me, and you know, as far as

1747
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:19,760
Speaker 3: stopping the run. That's why I knew when you guys

1748
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:22,840
Speaker 3: played him, I was like, oh yeah, oh yeah, bang it,

1749
01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 3: bang it, let me, let me get on my little website,

1750
01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:28,400
Speaker 3: bang it, let's go, let's go, you know, throw catfish

1751
01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:31,840
Speaker 3: on him, Tay, let's go, baby, getting them over, baby,

1752
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:34,400
Speaker 3: like these are my boys. Man, A big Titans fan,

1753
01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:37,240
Speaker 3: but like, yeah, I mean it was Rabel your boy,

1754
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:40,760
Speaker 3: he's a legend. Uh you know, Tannahill, what what makes me?

1755
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:42,840
Speaker 4: I don't disagree with you and Vrabel, but what makes

1756
01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:45,320
Speaker 4: verbel a legend? From an outside looking in?

1757
01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:48,080
Speaker 3: Well, one, I respect him because he's a player, and

1758
01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 3: most players don't get burned coaching. So he's very lucky

1759
01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:56,240
Speaker 3: to come from the Belichick tree. I'm not saying he's lucky,

1760
01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:58,280
Speaker 3: but I'm saying, like a lot of coaches don't get

1761
01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:00,600
Speaker 3: that front of line treatment. He just nerve to get it.

1762
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:02,720
Speaker 3: He's proven he deserved to get it. And that's what

1763
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:04,720
Speaker 3: I love about it. It's like everybody was waiting for

1764
01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 3: him to fail because he came from the Bill Tree.

1765
01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 3: He just got the job because he's those guys. He's

1766
01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:12,680
Speaker 3: a player, you know, he's too young, whatever, and he

1767
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:15,000
Speaker 3: really relates to players. You can tell he seems like

1768
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:16,920
Speaker 3: a guy's guy from everything I hear about guys that

1769
01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:19,400
Speaker 3: played with him in New England. He just has the

1770
01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:22,160
Speaker 3: right amount of shit to him. And he's a wde essentially.

1771
01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:25,280
Speaker 3: I mean like he's he's he's a he's a great

1772
01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 3: white pass rusher from back in the day. Like there's

1773
01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:30,720
Speaker 3: very few of us left and so I got a

1774
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 3: soft spot for Raves. No, I love it.

1775
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:35,719
Speaker 4: No, Rabes definitely he's a guys guy man, He definitely

1776
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:38,639
Speaker 4: he's a he's about the boys. He comes on the podcast.

1777
01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:41,120
Speaker 4: Like when I did this podcast, I was thinking when

1778
01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:43,479
Speaker 4: he came in the podcast, I was like, Okay, well

1779
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:45,760
Speaker 4: I get Rabes is definitely a boy. Because I was

1780
01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:48,040
Speaker 4: worried the first when we did this thing because John

1781
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:52,080
Speaker 4: came from the Patriots tree of Rabels said they both

1782
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:54,560
Speaker 4: essentially like they they were there at one point, and

1783
01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:57,400
Speaker 4: I'm thinking to myself, my ass is getting traded before

1784
01:16:57,479 --> 01:16:59,000
Speaker 4: we gaate, before that did left.

1785
01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:06,320
Speaker 3: Okay, No, I mean, listen to this fucking podcast. I

1786
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:08,360
Speaker 3: would be worried. But the thing I like about it

1787
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 3: again is he breaks that mold. And the same thing

1788
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:13,240
Speaker 3: with B Flow. There's nothing wrong with the Patriot way,

1789
01:17:13,479 --> 01:17:15,559
Speaker 3: there's nothing wrong with it, but all these coaches try

1790
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:18,360
Speaker 3: to be Bill to a degree, like they can't escape

1791
01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:21,800
Speaker 3: it somehow. Braves or b Flow, these guys are like,

1792
01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:23,439
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be a little different. I'm gonna bring some

1793
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:25,519
Speaker 3: of the New England to wherever I'm going to coach.

1794
01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:27,840
Speaker 3: And that's a that's a great thing because they know

1795
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:30,320
Speaker 3: how to win up there, but I can be personality

1796
01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:32,240
Speaker 3: wise a little different, and I think that's what's cool

1797
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:34,360
Speaker 3: about it. Plus you added to fucking I like your

1798
01:17:34,360 --> 01:17:37,080
Speaker 3: tight end. Johnny Smith, he's a stud. He could block.

1799
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:39,080
Speaker 3: I was old when we played you guys a year

1800
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:41,160
Speaker 3: or two ago, but I was like, man, I really

1801
01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:42,040
Speaker 3: he's a good blocker.

1802
01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:45,400
Speaker 4: Insurance policy year. Huh, that's an insurance policy. I was

1803
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:48,840
Speaker 4: a little older when I played you guys. So John Smith, great,

1804
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:49,759
Speaker 4: Josh John Ill.

1805
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 3: By the way, terrible comeback that ruined my whole week

1806
01:17:53,560 --> 01:17:56,240
Speaker 3: at least. Uh. You guys came back from like twenty

1807
01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:56,960
Speaker 3: down to beat us.

1808
01:17:57,000 --> 01:17:58,720
Speaker 4: But I tell you what, Actually, I wanted to bring

1809
01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:00,120
Speaker 4: this up because I told you we were in the

1810
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:02,559
Speaker 4: middle of a drive. It was the drive we won, actually,

1811
01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:04,920
Speaker 4: and I go past you and I go, I don't

1812
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:07,000
Speaker 4: know if you remember this, but I patched you on

1813
01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:08,400
Speaker 4: the ass. Chris, we win this game.

1814
01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:09,200
Speaker 2: All donate ten.

1815
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:11,439
Speaker 4: Thousand dollars the water. Tell me I did say that

1816
01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:12,760
Speaker 4: I haven't wrote a check yet.

1817
01:18:13,160 --> 01:18:17,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, a check yet, Abe Lincoln here, I appreciate that check.

1818
01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:18,439
Speaker 2: Hey, I'll send it.

1819
01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 4: I swear to God, I'll send it. I had a wait,

1820
01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:21,639
Speaker 4: I got to make sure we had a season first,

1821
01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:23,240
Speaker 4: because that he's got some debt.

1822
01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:26,799
Speaker 3: But we're gonna make sure worry about it. You gottle

1823
01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:28,000
Speaker 3: bit Honestly, guys.

1824
01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:29,560
Speaker 2: I don't want to. I don't want to too my

1825
01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:31,280
Speaker 2: own horn, but I dropped to pick that game that

1826
01:18:31,439 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 2: made you guys settle for a field goal, and then

1827
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:34,639
Speaker 2: we won the next drive.

1828
01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:36,519
Speaker 1: The boy was in the game made.

1829
01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:42,320
Speaker 3: He was wonterfly effect. My problem was I really liked Conklin.

1830
01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:45,519
Speaker 3: You could get him off his feet and like he'd

1831
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:47,920
Speaker 3: move like eight feet, but he would just anchor enough

1832
01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:50,360
Speaker 3: at the last second. Also, we were in all these

1833
01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:53,479
Speaker 3: like fucked up rush situations. You guys do a really

1834
01:18:53,479 --> 01:18:56,720
Speaker 3: good job of like complimentary football and just staying like

1835
01:18:57,040 --> 01:19:00,240
Speaker 3: at it and being and being like methodical, and that

1836
01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:03,599
Speaker 3: really throws rushers off, you know, because you're off balanced

1837
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:05,080
Speaker 3: and you're just saying it's not like from a Stansa.

1838
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:06,639
Speaker 3: You can get knocked off the ball in the run game,

1839
01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:09,080
Speaker 3: but when the past shows and you're rushing an athletic

1840
01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:11,599
Speaker 3: quarterback you had Marcus and now you got Tannehill, it's

1841
01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:14,240
Speaker 3: it's it's a challenge. You guys got a nice little

1842
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:16,320
Speaker 3: offense there, and I love that receiver Brown.

1843
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:18,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a stun he's a dog.

1844
01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:21,080
Speaker 4: He's got that asshole in him too, Like he's got

1845
01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 4: that attitude where it's like, give me the fucking ball,

1846
01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:25,560
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And so it's like, you know,

1847
01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:27,880
Speaker 4: some guys might might not like that. You need guys

1848
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:29,760
Speaker 4: like that, dude. You need guys that are like a

1849
01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:32,040
Speaker 4: little cocky, a little arrogant. And I mean that in

1850
01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:33,200
Speaker 4: a good way. I hope he hears this, and I

1851
01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:34,000
Speaker 4: hope he knows I mean.

1852
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 3: This idline breaking news.

1853
01:19:36,360 --> 01:19:40,639
Speaker 4: Taylor One all players arrogant and cocky. Also, Chris Long

1854
01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:41,679
Speaker 4: hates Ryan Tannehill.

1855
01:19:42,439 --> 01:19:44,240
Speaker 2: It's a picture of Yeah, it's a picture of aj

1856
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:48,840
Speaker 2: with those was it those Sunglssvana? Yeah, the Golgi and Cavana.

1857
01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:50,000
Speaker 2: I didn't want to butcher that name.

1858
01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:50,679
Speaker 1: I almost try.

1859
01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:52,720
Speaker 3: I gotta go down and eat dinner with the kids.

1860
01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:54,799
Speaker 3: I just realized it's six thirty seven pm.

1861
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:57,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've been on this thing a while.

1862
01:19:57,640 --> 01:20:01,280
Speaker 2: I wanted to get the favorite Team, Favorite Year stories.

1863
01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:02,280
Speaker 2: We didn't get.

1864
01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:07,080
Speaker 3: Favorite Year twenty twelve Saint Louis Rams. This is when

1865
01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:09,880
Speaker 3: you guys were babies. The NFL. You know they say

1866
01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:11,760
Speaker 3: it was different, It was even different eight years ago.

1867
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:14,000
Speaker 3: I mean like it was fun. Our NFC West was

1868
01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:18,479
Speaker 3: San Francisco with Frank Gore, Vernon Davis, Uh you know,

1869
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:26,960
Speaker 3: uh Delaney Walker, I you Potty good Win, fucking Anthony

1870
01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:30,080
Speaker 3: Davis Staley. It was just a fucking bloodbath. And it

1871
01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:35,160
Speaker 3: was Seattle Marshawn Tom cable O Line. Arizona had Carson Palmer,

1872
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:37,400
Speaker 3: like it was. The NFC West was murderers Row and

1873
01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:38,840
Speaker 3: we were that team that couldn't get over the hump.

1874
01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:40,160
Speaker 3: But we beat the fuck out of everybody on the

1875
01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:42,880
Speaker 3: division and nobody wanted to see us. But it was fun,

1876
01:20:42,920 --> 01:20:44,920
Speaker 3: like we had a really good locker room. Jeff Fisher

1877
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:46,560
Speaker 3: is a great coach. You guys have had Fish on.

1878
01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:50,519
Speaker 3: He made everything fun by the way, played for him.

1879
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:52,160
Speaker 3: I know we didn't get over the hump, but I

1880
01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:53,479
Speaker 3: think Fish gets a bad rap.

1881
01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:56,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, Fish is great. It is definitely good. All right,

1882
01:20:56,760 --> 01:20:57,880
Speaker 4: let the man go, Let the man go.

1883
01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:01,400
Speaker 1: We'll have money. He could be would be a recurrent guest.

1884
01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:04,200
Speaker 4: When this when this whole pandemic thing is over, you

1885
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:05,160
Speaker 4: need to come on the bus.

1886
01:21:05,720 --> 01:21:09,040
Speaker 1: I will try getting him to Nashville quite a bit.

1887
01:21:09,400 --> 01:21:11,160
Speaker 3: I love Nashville. You know, as you just heard, you

1888
01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:12,680
Speaker 3: don't have to twist my arm. I might come.

1889
01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:13,599
Speaker 1: I might come.

1890
01:21:13,640 --> 01:21:19,280
Speaker 3: Put a Titans jersey on sitting. Hey, you know, are

1891
01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:23,120
Speaker 3: we competitors the drone like a sanitizer drone and the bus.

1892
01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:24,280
Speaker 3: I'm there but done.

1893
01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:26,640
Speaker 2: We got Are we competitors?

1894
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:29,320
Speaker 3: We are not competitors because of what I said earlier,

1895
01:21:29,439 --> 01:21:32,800
Speaker 3: Like you guys probably don't compete with anybody. I don't

1896
01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:35,439
Speaker 3: compete with anybody, like, because competing with somebody that would

1897
01:21:35,479 --> 01:21:37,960
Speaker 3: mean like if I'm doing what I truly want to

1898
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:40,400
Speaker 3: do as a podcast. And this is a serious answer,

1899
01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:43,960
Speaker 3: but like then if I'm not getting listeners, that means

1900
01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:46,240
Speaker 3: I have to change who I am. So I'm gonna

1901
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:49,200
Speaker 3: do what I need to do to enjoy it. And

1902
01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:51,720
Speaker 3: if people like it, great, if they don't fuck it,

1903
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:53,960
Speaker 3: like we're all there's enough podcasts in the world for everybody.

1904
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:57,439
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure everybody has a podcast now, true, man,

1905
01:21:58,040 --> 01:22:00,120
Speaker 3: you guys are all podcast appreciate you guys have me

1906
01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:02,080
Speaker 3: on you guys, are you guys will do a home

1907
01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:03,880
Speaker 3: at home? You gotta come on, mind, we'll rank some ship.

1908
01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:06,160
Speaker 3: I don't think anybody else has ranked anything over quarantine.

1909
01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:08,200
Speaker 4: Oh rank, we'll do it. Down to rank.

1910
01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:11,280
Speaker 3: Down to D two D two R S two R

1911
01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:11,920
Speaker 3: sender receive.

1912
01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:15,479
Speaker 2: Let's do it all right, brother, appreciate you man see

1913
01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:15,560
Speaker 2: it