WEBVTT - Big Red Rage - Gannon Takes Over

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<v Speaker 1>rage taking over. Here's Paul Calvci. I'm ready. I'm one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent ready. I'm telling you i'mready. And Ron Wolflee,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't get any better than that boy, unleash the

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<v Speaker 1>far So. After meeting, interviewing, and spending a little time

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<v Speaker 1>with a brand new head coach, Jonathan Gannon, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I did next? Wolf? What was that? BOLLI? I

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<v Speaker 1>immediately went out to the practice field here at Cardinals HQ,

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<v Speaker 1>and I hit the blocking slat Oh stop, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I set up the tackling dummies like ran through the

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<v Speaker 1>tackling dummies. I gave a couple of them the forearms shiver.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me tell you something. I am ready to come

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<v Speaker 1>off the ball on this very special edition head Coach

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<v Speaker 1>edition of the Big Red Rage, presented by Santan Ford

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<v Speaker 1>and Gilbert. We are Santan Ford, and I might need

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<v Speaker 1>to pace myself here in the offseason, but you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>that energy today was infectious and boom. I was ready

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<v Speaker 1>to go. You're ready to hit him high, hit him

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<v Speaker 1>pie Pipe. I'll give you the effort, Ron wolf I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be the try hard guy. If nothing else, you can

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<v Speaker 1>bring the analysis here that was already me. I was

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<v Speaker 1>the try hard guy. Folly, you can't have that one,

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<v Speaker 1>I know. Okay, So here we go, Ron Wolfley, there,

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<v Speaker 1>Paul kelvc here and in front of the media, meeting

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<v Speaker 1>the media and the red seat Jonathan Gannon, and we

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<v Speaker 1>will hear from the head coach a little bit later. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll go one on one a little bit later and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll do that meet and greet. But first let's get

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<v Speaker 1>a few impressions. First impressions based on his opening press comments,

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<v Speaker 1>Ron wolf Lee, what says you, man, PAULI, where do

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<v Speaker 1>you begin on this one right here. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>I like his demeanor. I like the fact that he

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't way up here. I like that. I know that

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<v Speaker 1>he's a high energy guy, but I like the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that he was more even keel for the most part

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<v Speaker 1>coming into this. You know what, he's an excitable guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the fact he said it's also very humbling,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that was one of the reasons why

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<v Speaker 1>it was very even keel throughout the entire press conference,

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<v Speaker 1>to me, was because he knew what was going on.

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<v Speaker 1>He knew the moment was huge. Even though he's a

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<v Speaker 1>high energy guy and he's an excitable guy. The humility

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<v Speaker 1>that he displayed realizing what was going on at this

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<v Speaker 1>press conference and the fact that he's forty years old

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<v Speaker 1>and here he is a head coach and the National

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<v Speaker 1>Football League guy. I loved the context of this, Paul,

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<v Speaker 1>and I love the quiet confidence that he conveyed when

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<v Speaker 1>he said, we're going to win games. Don't get it twisted.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to win games. And he let that hang,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Like you said, he looked like he'd been

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<v Speaker 1>there and done that before, even though he's a first

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<v Speaker 1>time head coach and we're gonna ask him about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Just you know, was he nervous. I mean a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of those first time head coaches meeting the meeting, he

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<v Speaker 1>certainly didn't look it. And the more he spoke and

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<v Speaker 1>the more he answered questions, the more I understood, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this indeed is a good fit. This is what they

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<v Speaker 1>were looking for. You understand how many boxes he checked.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, the owner, Michael Bidwell, he spoke a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit about that about how everything aligned. I think he

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<v Speaker 1>came in with a vision and plan that the vision

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<v Speaker 1>aligned with where we want to be about getting back

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<v Speaker 1>to the top of the NFC West and competing in

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<v Speaker 1>January and competing to get to the Super Bowl and

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<v Speaker 1>win it. So that's number one with a vision, his

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<v Speaker 1>plan he outlined, it's the view that he had of

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<v Speaker 1>our elite quarterback and getting him back to being the

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<v Speaker 1>playmaker that he is. Think of some of the big

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<v Speaker 1>boxes that Jonathan Gannon checks, his philosophy and approach with

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<v Speaker 1>Kyler Murray, especially working the last two years with the

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<v Speaker 1>jail and Hurts. The accountability issue that Michael Bidwell identified

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<v Speaker 1>going into the offseason maybe the driving reason why significant

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<v Speaker 1>changes were made in the organization at GM and head coach.

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<v Speaker 1>You then look at the energy and leadership he brought today, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the final thing is the more he spoke,

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<v Speaker 1>you just come to realize. Okay, he was an integral

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<v Speaker 1>part of taking a four win team two years ago

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<v Speaker 1>to the Super Bowl. Yeah. So if anybody's been there

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<v Speaker 1>and done that, look what he did. You know Nick

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<v Speaker 1>Sirianni and that staff with the Philadelphia Eagles. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was cool that Michael actually reference that

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<v Speaker 1>the plan and the vision that he thought Coach Gannon had.

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<v Speaker 1>And for me, when I think about that, the plan

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<v Speaker 1>and the vision Paul, I can hear him saying, we

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<v Speaker 1>need to be adaptable, right, So that's what we need.

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<v Speaker 1>We need adaptable, we need violent, we need explosive, we

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<v Speaker 1>need smart. I love the fact that he had this

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<v Speaker 1>four point vision, so to speak. That he emphasized that

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<v Speaker 1>to me really got me jacked up because that says

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<v Speaker 1>what the plan is and what the vision may be

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<v Speaker 1>going forward. Because Baali can have all the schemes in

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<v Speaker 1>the world, of course, but you got to populated with

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<v Speaker 1>human beings. And you know what when he said that,

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<v Speaker 1>and the room was loaded with Cardinals players, they're a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch in the front row, including Kyler Murray. There were

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch in the back. Byron Murphy was next to

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<v Speaker 1>me in the back because we were doing live coverage

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<v Speaker 1>before and after so Boom. I'm trying to get a

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<v Speaker 1>view around some of these big players and almost all

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<v Speaker 1>the players added a couple of fist pumps in there

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<v Speaker 1>as he put in, you know, as he said the

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<v Speaker 1>word violent, explosive, and smart. You know, I think maybe

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<v Speaker 1>inside manti Astinfort was cheering as well. In fact, he

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<v Speaker 1>was asked the Cardinals due GM, why Jonathan Gannon. Ultimately,

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<v Speaker 1>our process led us to Jonathan. Jonathan's energy when he

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<v Speaker 1>entered our room. It was NonStop from the beginning. His

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<v Speaker 1>reputation as a leader, his ability to connect to players,

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<v Speaker 1>to staff, to the rest of his coaches, his ability

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<v Speaker 1>to work with a personnel department and provide a vision

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<v Speaker 1>for the type of players that we're going to go

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<v Speaker 1>out and seek. It was apparent that Jonathan shared a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the same values that I value and that

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<v Speaker 1>Michael values. In fact, Michael Bidwell said at one point

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<v Speaker 1>that he was a little subdued Jonathan Gannon based on

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<v Speaker 1>what he was like during the interview. I was like Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, man, what's the energy level going to be

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<v Speaker 1>like when they get out there on the grass. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you tell me, Wolf, I mean, to what

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<v Speaker 1>degree do you believe team takes on the personality of

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<v Speaker 1>its head coach? And how significant is that? Yeah, Paully,

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<v Speaker 1>it does. There's no doubt he's an aggressive guy. He

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<v Speaker 1>really is. I can tell just by some of the

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<v Speaker 1>words that he uses, the fact that he actually used violent,

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<v Speaker 1>He used that right there. We all know. It's within

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<v Speaker 1>the context and the paradigm of playing the game of

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<v Speaker 1>football once you step in between those white lines. But

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<v Speaker 1>that is a strong word to use, Paul, even inside

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<v Speaker 1>that paradigm, that is a strong word to use in it.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, it's like saying I love you, okay, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it just makes me feel good because that is the

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<v Speaker 1>game of football. When you step in between those lines.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got to step in between those lines with some

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<v Speaker 1>bad intentions, and it's okay, because it's all right to

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<v Speaker 1>do that inside those lines. And then you step outside

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<v Speaker 1>those lines and you love people and respect him and

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<v Speaker 1>treat him better than yourself. Paul, You've heard me say

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<v Speaker 1>this for years. It's just the truth. It's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that I love the most about the game.

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<v Speaker 1>And man, just listening to Jonathan Gannon, he taps into that,

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<v Speaker 1>and that tells me they're gonna go out Paulie and

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna look for players that fit that mode, no doubt.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, he was on NFL Network and they asked

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<v Speaker 1>him about his offensive philosophy because and we're gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>into this a little bit later. You know, yes, he's

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<v Speaker 1>a defensive coordinated the last couple of years, but he

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<v Speaker 1>has a very definitive sense of what he wants on

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<v Speaker 1>the offensive side of the ball. And in response to

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<v Speaker 1>one of the questions, he said, and I quote, we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna throw it over people's heads and run it down

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<v Speaker 1>people's throats. Wait, that's a great line there. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>to your point. That just further illustrates your point. Well, look,

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<v Speaker 1>we've all seen the video of him in his truck

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<v Speaker 1>pulling up to the Eagles facility before the NFC Championship

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<v Speaker 1>game and then rolling down his window, right, and he

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<v Speaker 1>was egged on by a lot of the fans like

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<v Speaker 1>Jared and he yells out, we're gonna bleeping gut these

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<v Speaker 1>guys to me, and we're gonna ask him about that

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<v Speaker 1>when we have him on here momentarily on the big

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<v Speaker 1>red ray Sean I thinking, but to me, him rolling

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<v Speaker 1>down his window, that's really a window into his personality. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's who he is. That's aw ultra aggressive

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<v Speaker 1>he is as a coach and a competitor. What are

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<v Speaker 1>you saying, bully that words matter? And you know that

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<v Speaker 1>they do. And again, it's one thing to say it.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you got to go out and you got to

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<v Speaker 1>back it up. You got to mean it, because many

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<v Speaker 1>times you can actually see a guy and you can

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<v Speaker 1>get a little mesmerized by the guy's talent. You can bully.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no doubt about that, there's no denying that. And

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of times you forget that. The game of

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<v Speaker 1>football is not played just by athletes. It's not played

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<v Speaker 1>by people that have a ton of talent. It's also

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<v Speaker 1>a combination of toughness that you need as well. There's

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<v Speaker 1>got to be some standard in each player of toughness,

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<v Speaker 1>some level of toughness that you need to bring into

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<v Speaker 1>that locker room that can go out there and then

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<v Speaker 1>use that talent inside that paradigm that incredibly physical, aggressive,

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<v Speaker 1>tough paradigm known as an NFL football game. In order

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<v Speaker 1>to tap into all that talent, you got to have

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<v Speaker 1>a monicum of toughness. And that's something they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be looking at and trying to balance in every guide ball,

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<v Speaker 1>every guy Paul they bring into that locker room, they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have to balance that. And you know what, as

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<v Speaker 1>a head coach with a scouting background as well, he's

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<v Speaker 1>got an eye for that sort of stuff. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>he was asked Jonathan Gannon on the one characteristic each

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<v Speaker 1>member of the team will have. I know Monny and

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<v Speaker 1>Michael have heard me say this multiple times. Everybody that

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<v Speaker 1>we bring in here or that is here or that

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<v Speaker 1>will be a cardinal, will have elite football character because

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<v Speaker 1>you will not hit your ceiling if you don't have that.

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<v Speaker 1>And what I mean by that is is you have

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<v Speaker 1>to be team first, and that's how we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>build this team. He said. It goes back to when

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<v Speaker 1>he was a kid, his coaches, his dad. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>about you, it's about the team. That was another answer

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<v Speaker 1>he gave. That's just part of the DNA of how

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<v Speaker 1>he goes about running a football team, and it goes

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<v Speaker 1>back into the whole accountability thing that Michael Bidwell, Manias

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<v Speaker 1>and fort we're looking for. Because look, leadership takes different forms.

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<v Speaker 1>We know that, and his style of leadership I think

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be not only a modern style where

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<v Speaker 1>it connects with the players, but there's gonna be some

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<v Speaker 1>old school aspects of it as well, where there's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a lot of tough love and some significant expectations

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<v Speaker 1>that it's not just about you, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>guys are gonna be asked to do things and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>aren't going to help them all that much in their

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<v Speaker 1>contract negotiations, but it'll be better for the team, no doubt, Paulie,

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<v Speaker 1>And that got me excited. I really did. What are

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<v Speaker 1>the possibilities that are out there? Right though? First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>it's every guy. This is what he made it a

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<v Speaker 1>point of emphasis to say every guy that we bring

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<v Speaker 1>in here is he's got to have elite football character. Pollie,

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<v Speaker 1>That to me, I love that kind of terminology. You

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<v Speaker 1>have a culture, you have a way that we do

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<v Speaker 1>things around here, and every guy that we consider, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to drag him through that culture and see if

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<v Speaker 1>he actually makes it to the other side before we

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<v Speaker 1>bring him in here. I love that mentality and I

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<v Speaker 1>hope they stick to that with the elite football character. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>on the other side, here on the big Red Rage,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna meet and greet Jonathan Gannon. Next we'll ask

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<v Speaker 1>him about accountability, his playing for Kyler, right, his vision

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<v Speaker 1>for the offense. You know, we'll ask him about the

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<v Speaker 1>video of him rolling down his window right shouting out.

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<v Speaker 1>Eagles fans. By the way, join the season ticket priority list.

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<v Speaker 1>Check out the opponents because you'll get your seats and

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<v Speaker 1>the ability to select your seats before the general public.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking that Giants, Cowboys, Ravens, Falcons, and Bengals all

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<v Speaker 1>on easy Cardinals dot com slash priority List. I am

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<v Speaker 1>extremely excited today to be in front of you and

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<v Speaker 1>I have the honor of introducing Jonathan Gannon as the

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<v Speaker 1>next head coach of the Arizona Cardinals. Just know this,

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna be adaptable, we're gonna be violent, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be explosive, and we're gonna be smart and all three

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<v Speaker 1>phases go into that. And we will maximize the talents

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<v Speaker 1>of the players that we have, and that's how we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna win games. And don't get it twisted. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>win games, Adaptable, violent, explosive, and smart. The vision, the blueprint,

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<v Speaker 1>the DNA of the Arizona Cardinals going forward. And when

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<v Speaker 1>those words were uttered, I was standing in the press

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<v Speaker 1>conference room next to a bunch of players, and every

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<v Speaker 1>one of them nodded, a couple of them fist pumped.

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<v Speaker 1>And now we have the man who said those words,

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<v Speaker 1>who now leads the Arizona Cardinals onto the field of

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<v Speaker 1>effective immediately. The eleventh head coach in Arizona Cardinals history,

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Gannon, joins us on the Big Red Rage presented

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<v Speaker 1>by Santan Ford in Gilbert Coach. Welcome and congratulations. Thank you, Paul.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it. Excited to be here and excited to

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<v Speaker 1>get ready to work. Were you nervous at all? I

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<v Speaker 1>got to ask you one question. I've seen a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of press conferences, a lot of first time head coaches, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't appear to be nervous whatsoever, even with all

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<v Speaker 1>the cameras in the packed auditorious Yeah. No, I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the last two years in Philly, that's a tough media market,

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<v Speaker 1>so I kind of got baptized by fire. But no,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you just answer questions what's your what's in

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<v Speaker 1>your head, and what's in your heart, and if you're honest,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have to worry about what you're saying. And

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<v Speaker 1>so that's how I kind of do it. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>an exciting time obviously to be in that but I've

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<v Speaker 1>been in that setting before, obviously not as a head coach,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, it's part of the job, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>So tell me about the emotion of the moment because

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<v Speaker 1>we can talk about what's straight ahead and we'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>about that all offsea. But you're now one of thirty

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<v Speaker 1>two after fifteen years in the NFL. What was it

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<v Speaker 1>like to be offered the job. Yeah, it's it's it's exciting,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's humbling, you know, because there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>good coaches that helped me get to this seat, and

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<v Speaker 1>uh maybe that never had gotten an opportunity to do

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<v Speaker 1>now what I'm doing, but you know, you just you're

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<v Speaker 1>very it's a it's a grateful moment because of all

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<v Speaker 1>the people that helped me get here, and I'm so

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<v Speaker 1>grateful for working for all those guys and learning from

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<v Speaker 1>all those people. But uh, you know, really excited, really grateful.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really humbling. What do you think landed you the job?

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<v Speaker 1>What are your strengths? I would say, you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>sitting down with Michael and Mannie just talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>vision of how I want to build a team and play,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think my strengths would be is I care

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<v Speaker 1>about the players. And I've done a good job in

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<v Speaker 1>my career so far of getting to maximize the players

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, and get them to hit their ceilings.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, ultimately it's servant leadership. You got to

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<v Speaker 1>you got to care about the players as people first

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<v Speaker 1>then as then as players, and you want to see

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<v Speaker 1>them do well, you know. And I think the other

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<v Speaker 1>thing that they really liked, and I think that it

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<v Speaker 1>helped our defense and Philly was to explain to them

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<v Speaker 1>and tell them the reasons why that the team goes

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<v Speaker 1>above themselves. It's not about you, It's about the team.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, when they understand how they fit in

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<v Speaker 1>and their role that they fit in to the defense

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<v Speaker 1>or to the team, they can accept that and really

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<v Speaker 1>be very productive and be a star within their role.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what you're looking for. However, many guys you

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<v Speaker 1>got up on game day, are we are you a

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<v Speaker 1>starring your role, and your role can change from week

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<v Speaker 1>to week. It can go up, it can go down.

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<v Speaker 1>But as long as guys recognize that, then they're on

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<v Speaker 1>board with what you're asking them to do. There's high

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<v Speaker 1>accountability and ultimately you got to go out and play

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<v Speaker 1>good football. Jonathan Gannon is our guest on The Big

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<v Speaker 1>Red Rage. According brand new head coach, when the season

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<v Speaker 1>ended and changes, the roommate Michael Bidwell cited accountability and

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<v Speaker 1>need to improve. He cited that in hiring you, that's

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<v Speaker 1>job number one. How do you define accountability? Especially from

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<v Speaker 1>a player's perspective, winning behavior? So what I mean by

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<v Speaker 1>that is there's there's winning behavior. Will show them exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what that looks like and hold them to that standard.

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<v Speaker 1>And ultimately that's what your culture is. It's your daily

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<v Speaker 1>actions on a day to day basis of how are

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<v Speaker 1>you improving your process? How are you getting better as

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<v Speaker 1>a player? And the accountability And you heard me say

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<v Speaker 1>that in the presser was you know, I think people

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes cringe because they think that's a negative word. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it can be, but it can also be in more

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<v Speaker 1>so used in a positive way. There's positive accountability. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what we're talking about that's winning behavior right there.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what we need to keep doing. Good job, And

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<v Speaker 1>so the players will they'll know that for us, but

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<v Speaker 1>we're we won't shy away from conflict. We'll show them

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<v Speaker 1>this is what winning behavior looks like and this is

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<v Speaker 1>what it doesn't and we need to improve these things

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<v Speaker 1>or we'll lose. And you're coming off an operation where

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<v Speaker 1>you went from a four win team to the super

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl in two years? What did you learn? What did

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<v Speaker 1>you learn? What can you apply immediately from what you

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<v Speaker 1>were just part of accomplishing in Philly? Yeah, process driven,

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<v Speaker 1>being very enthused about what you're doing, and high accountability

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<v Speaker 1>and high communication and everybody. When everybody's on the same

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<v Speaker 1>page and they understand their role, how they fit into

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<v Speaker 1>the team, then it allows you to do your job

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<v Speaker 1>at a high level. And so that's what I would say.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I say about Nick. You know, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>he did a phenomenal job about. And then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the backburner to that is is being adaptable. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we started going out one way and we changed because

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't working. Then we got it going a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit and then it wasn't working and we changed or

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<v Speaker 1>then we doubled down on some things that we know

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<v Speaker 1>to be true too when it was working, or maybe

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<v Speaker 1>if it wasn't working, Hey, we know, sooner or later

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<v Speaker 1>the results will come. We gotta keep doubling down on

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<v Speaker 1>our process. So just the clear vision that Nick had

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<v Speaker 1>for everybody in that organization how to win games. What's

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<v Speaker 1>your vision for Kyler Murray? Michael Bidwill cited that was

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<v Speaker 1>a big factor in you're hiring maximizing Kyler, getting him

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<v Speaker 1>back to the playmaker we've seen him be. What sort

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<v Speaker 1>of relationship do you envision, especially as a defensive head. Come, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna have a great relationship. You know, he's he's

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<v Speaker 1>a direct reflection of me, you know, and he's the

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<v Speaker 1>player that position, is the player that's most like a

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<v Speaker 1>coach on that field because he touches it every snap.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, the vision that we have for him

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<v Speaker 1>is is to maximize his skill set. And say, well

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of general. No, it's not. He can throw

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<v Speaker 1>it over your head, he can beat you on first, second,

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<v Speaker 1>third level throwing it, and he can beat you on

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<v Speaker 1>the first, second, third level running it. And when you

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<v Speaker 1>have a type of player like that, well that's what

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna do. We're gonna When you have to defend

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<v Speaker 1>a guy like that, it puts the defense in conflict

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<v Speaker 1>and you can't do everything that you want to do

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<v Speaker 1>as a defense because you know that he can beat

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<v Speaker 1>you different ways. So with him understanding, I'll work hard

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<v Speaker 1>with making sure that he understands from a defensive perspective, Hey, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not gonna get this because they can't run those

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<v Speaker 1>calls because of this, or you're gonna get a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of this because of who you are. So what's our

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<v Speaker 1>plan for that? Because I know they're gonna spy you.

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<v Speaker 1>I know they're gonna three man rush, two man rush,

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<v Speaker 1>four man rush, and they're gonna spy you. So that

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<v Speaker 1>stresses out the coverage. So that's make sure we're doing

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<v Speaker 1>a good job with that. A lot of different things

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<v Speaker 1>that we'll talk about as we get going, but he'll

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<v Speaker 1>have a very very clear understanding of how he needs

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<v Speaker 1>to operate running the offense and what defenses are going

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<v Speaker 1>to try to do to stop him, because that is best.

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<v Speaker 1>He keeps up defensive coordinators all night. Yes he does.

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<v Speaker 1>He was one of the hardest guys to prepare for

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<v Speaker 1>this year. I mean That's why I say he's a

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<v Speaker 1>legit problem. And although you're looking for an offensive coordinator,

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<v Speaker 1>you have a vision as to how you want to

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<v Speaker 1>play offense. I no doubt, yeah, and I'll and I

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<v Speaker 1>will definitely, I'm gonna talk to a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 1>I got some good guys in mind, but you know

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<v Speaker 1>it goes into being adaptable. I don't want a system guy,

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<v Speaker 1>I really don't. I want a guy that's been in

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<v Speaker 1>multiple systems because I wanted to be able to sure

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<v Speaker 1>that I want to be sure that we are maximizing

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<v Speaker 1>Kyler and the other players on our offense, not just Kyler.

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<v Speaker 1>You know James Connor, Rondell, Hollywood, Zach, all those players

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<v Speaker 1>who you know, how DJ Humphreys. We don't need to

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<v Speaker 1>slide to this guy can block anyone in the world

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<v Speaker 1>one on one. Let's slide the other way. Whatever we're doing,

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<v Speaker 1>you got to put together the plan that maximizes everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>not just Kyler. So I wanted to be the Arizona

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinals system, not this guy's system from nineteen eighty that

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<v Speaker 1>was passed down for forty years. We're not gonna play

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<v Speaker 1>offense like that. Jonathan Gannon is our guests you're wrapping

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<v Speaker 1>it up on the big red rage when you roll

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<v Speaker 1>down your window and shouted out the Eagles fans before

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<v Speaker 1>the NFC Championship, what you wanted to do to the Niners?

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<v Speaker 1>To what degree? Was that a window into your personality?

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<v Speaker 1>A little bit? A little bit. I normally keep my

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<v Speaker 1>feelings close to the vest um, but I was feeling

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<v Speaker 1>it that morning and there was guys, you know, beeping

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<v Speaker 1>at me. Let's go, JG, Let's go, JG, Let's go,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh rolled down my window and that's what I

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<v Speaker 1>was feeling. So that's what I said. So I'll always

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<v Speaker 1>be myself. I'll always be honest. But you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>have a I have a way in my brain that

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<v Speaker 1>how I want to play, and uh, you know, not

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<v Speaker 1>like that, but uh, you know, it's a it's a contact,

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<v Speaker 1>physical sport. And that's why I use the term violent.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to be a violent team. And you've already

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<v Speaker 1>been honest with Monti Austin Fort. Oh yeah, oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if Michael loved it, but Minie loved it.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys went back and forth on the roster. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, oh oh yeah. We went back and forth

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<v Speaker 1>on the roster because you're scouting background. Correct, you feel equipped? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, oh yeah it was. It was a really

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<v Speaker 1>good conversation. Well, Monnie has called that the lifeblood of

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<v Speaker 1>any organization. You have to have that organizational alignment between

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<v Speaker 1>them and the head coach. How much did you research

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<v Speaker 1>the Cardinals? They obviously researched you. What about the other

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<v Speaker 1>way around? Yeah, a lot. And I had to do

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<v Speaker 1>it quick, you know, so, and I actually did it

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<v Speaker 1>as the interview was going on and as we paused too,

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<v Speaker 1>so uh, you know, it was all good stuff. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just, you know, so grateful to be sitting next

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<v Speaker 1>to Michael and Monnie and the three of us getting

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<v Speaker 1>this thing going. Well, we really look forward to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Wolf and I right, we've been doing this show for

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<v Speaker 1>a long time. We always go to Johnny's on Fulton,

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<v Speaker 1>which is right across the street from Saint Rocos where

0:23:40.880 --> 0:23:44.080
<v Speaker 1>you were married. Sir, so many such a small world.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome on board, Thank you so much. I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Congratulations to Jonathan Gannon. There you go. We'll come back

0:23:49.080 --> 0:23:51.760
<v Speaker 1>and continue with a big red rage presented vice Santan

0:23:51.880 --> 0:23:59.919
<v Speaker 1>Ford in Gilbert Cardinals with a chance to make it

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<v Speaker 1>one possession game if they can get it in here

0:24:02.320 --> 0:24:06.160
<v Speaker 1>going for two snapped the Kyler looking right now back

0:24:06.200 --> 0:24:09.000
<v Speaker 1>to the middle, Now runs to the right, being chased,

0:24:09.040 --> 0:24:14.680
<v Speaker 1>backing up at the twenty, looking still dancing around, pointing,

0:24:14.880 --> 0:24:17.159
<v Speaker 1>still holding the ball like as street ball in the

0:24:17.200 --> 0:24:19.560
<v Speaker 1>back yard. He's still got it. Runs right to the ten,

0:24:20.119 --> 0:24:22.960
<v Speaker 1>pud's left to the five, and he's gonna store. Oh

0:24:23.080 --> 0:24:26.600
<v Speaker 1>my goodness, Kyler, murray on a player that took about

0:24:26.600 --> 0:24:30.600
<v Speaker 1>a minute somehow gets into the end zone for two points.

0:24:31.640 --> 0:24:34.199
<v Speaker 1>This is the entertainment capital of the world, and I

0:24:34.200 --> 0:24:37.439
<v Speaker 1>don't think I've ever seen a two point play as entertaining.

0:24:37.640 --> 0:24:42.920
<v Speaker 1>Is that, I have never seen that before in my life. Hey,

0:24:42.960 --> 0:24:46.119
<v Speaker 1>you know what, Kyler, sit down and do the unit

0:24:46.240 --> 0:24:52.840
<v Speaker 1>right now, because that is unbelievable. Circus Circus coming to

0:24:53.000 --> 0:24:57.159
<v Speaker 1>life in Vegas. I mean, just the reaction on the sideline.

0:24:57.600 --> 0:25:01.120
<v Speaker 1>I'll never forget that took so long, and I think

0:25:01.160 --> 0:25:04.840
<v Speaker 1>the next gen stat was he covered eighty five yards

0:25:04.880 --> 0:25:07.440
<v Speaker 1>of real turf in going from A to B to

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<v Speaker 1>C to the end zone on that two point conversion

0:25:10.880 --> 0:25:12.760
<v Speaker 1>and just a reaction and how much time all the

0:25:12.760 --> 0:25:15.040
<v Speaker 1>defensive players had to get off the bench should actually

0:25:15.080 --> 0:25:17.840
<v Speaker 1>come to the white stripe and J. J. Watt's reaction

0:25:18.400 --> 0:25:21.560
<v Speaker 1>a singular play by Kyler Murray, who was a singular

0:25:21.600 --> 0:25:23.760
<v Speaker 1>talent in so many ways. It is the big Red

0:25:23.840 --> 0:25:27.320
<v Speaker 1>Rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert. We are Santan Ford,

0:25:27.520 --> 0:25:30.320
<v Speaker 1>Paul kelvc Ron Wolfley, just joined by the Cardinals brand

0:25:30.359 --> 0:25:34.040
<v Speaker 1>new head coach Jonathan Gannon wolf I don't know, maybe

0:25:34.040 --> 0:25:36.320
<v Speaker 1>a reaction or two or what stood out to you

0:25:36.440 --> 0:25:38.720
<v Speaker 1>just after that conversation. I know you had a chance

0:25:38.760 --> 0:25:41.400
<v Speaker 1>to talk to him one on one earlier and during

0:25:41.440 --> 0:25:44.399
<v Speaker 1>your radio show. Yeah, Paul, you know just the fact

0:25:44.760 --> 0:25:48.360
<v Speaker 1>he is very very specific when it comes to an

0:25:48.359 --> 0:25:52.919
<v Speaker 1>offense and an offensive coordinator. He's got somebody in mind,

0:25:52.960 --> 0:25:56.440
<v Speaker 1>and he's very specific as to what this offense is

0:25:56.480 --> 0:25:59.480
<v Speaker 1>going to look like going forward with Kyler Murray being

0:25:59.520 --> 0:26:02.919
<v Speaker 1>built around Kyler Murray. That to me, I'd love to

0:26:02.920 --> 0:26:05.640
<v Speaker 1>get into more detail on that, but I don't think

0:26:05.640 --> 0:26:07.399
<v Speaker 1>we're able to do that because we don't have a

0:26:07.440 --> 0:26:09.800
<v Speaker 1>grease board in front of us. Well, I'll tell you

0:26:09.800 --> 0:26:12.200
<v Speaker 1>what he was asked the question of the press conference

0:26:12.320 --> 0:26:14.920
<v Speaker 1>as well, and here's what Jonathan Gannet had to say

0:26:14.920 --> 0:26:18.119
<v Speaker 1>about a new OC. That's step one. We're starting to

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<v Speaker 1>look at some different candidates and looking at interviewing some

0:26:21.480 --> 0:26:24.320
<v Speaker 1>people here in the next four to eight hours. But

0:26:24.400 --> 0:26:27.360
<v Speaker 1>I have a very specific vision of how I want

0:26:27.400 --> 0:26:30.679
<v Speaker 1>to play on offense, and the person that comes in

0:26:30.720 --> 0:26:33.240
<v Speaker 1>here to run the offense is going to understand that

0:26:33.600 --> 0:26:36.440
<v Speaker 1>everything that we do will be structured around the quarterback

0:26:36.480 --> 0:26:39.639
<v Speaker 1>position to maximize his skill set. And we have an

0:26:39.680 --> 0:26:42.480
<v Speaker 1>elite one and that was this morning. By this afternoon

0:26:42.600 --> 0:26:45.880
<v Speaker 1>we had national reports out there are three reported candidates

0:26:45.920 --> 0:26:49.760
<v Speaker 1>who will interview for the Cardinals offensive coordinator position, Drew

0:26:49.800 --> 0:26:54.760
<v Speaker 1>pets and Brown's quarterbacks coach Drew Tarrell, Washington wide receivers coach.

0:26:54.800 --> 0:26:58.240
<v Speaker 1>He's thirty one years of age. Joel Thomas, Saints running

0:26:58.240 --> 0:27:02.960
<v Speaker 1>backs coach. So what's interesting to me, and he reiterated

0:27:03.080 --> 0:27:05.199
<v Speaker 1>in our conversation here on the Big Red Rachel PRESENTI

0:27:05.240 --> 0:27:08.120
<v Speaker 1>by Santan Ford and Gilbert, is he really does have

0:27:08.320 --> 0:27:11.320
<v Speaker 1>a vision for the offense. It's almost as if he's

0:27:11.359 --> 0:27:13.800
<v Speaker 1>reverse engineering it. He's trying to find the OC that's

0:27:13.800 --> 0:27:16.520
<v Speaker 1>going to best fit his vision. I know on the

0:27:16.640 --> 0:27:19.480
<v Speaker 1>radio side, didn't he tell you Wolf that he plans

0:27:19.520 --> 0:27:23.520
<v Speaker 1>to live in eleven, twelve, and thirteen personnel. Right, that's right,

0:27:23.600 --> 0:27:26.000
<v Speaker 1>PAULI no fullback. As a matter of fact, kind of

0:27:26.080 --> 0:27:31.520
<v Speaker 1>chuckled right now. That's exactly right, Polly. But again, um,

0:27:31.680 --> 0:27:35.120
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be very interesting to see what they do

0:27:35.280 --> 0:27:40.080
<v Speaker 1>here because I love his philosophy. I love the fact

0:27:40.200 --> 0:27:44.320
<v Speaker 1>that he's talking about this offense being something that's going

0:27:44.400 --> 0:27:48.080
<v Speaker 1>to have to evolve. He's got a specific idea of

0:27:48.080 --> 0:27:52.640
<v Speaker 1>what he's looking for and the best thing is being adaptable. Paul.

0:27:52.720 --> 0:27:55.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to come back to this often because you've

0:27:55.280 --> 0:27:57.520
<v Speaker 1>heard me say this over and over and over again.

0:27:58.200 --> 0:28:00.080
<v Speaker 1>You need to be whatever you need to be in

0:28:00.200 --> 0:28:02.919
<v Speaker 1>order to beat your opponent. That's what you need to be.

0:28:03.080 --> 0:28:07.919
<v Speaker 1>And when I heard him say that, schemes change, you

0:28:07.960 --> 0:28:10.359
<v Speaker 1>know we're gonna we're gonna mix it up on the

0:28:10.440 --> 0:28:13.720
<v Speaker 1>offensive side of the ball. We're gonna be adaptable. We're

0:28:13.720 --> 0:28:17.520
<v Speaker 1>not gonna be dogmatic about a scheme that we're gonna run,

0:28:17.640 --> 0:28:20.119
<v Speaker 1>or an offense we're gonna run. We're gonna be what

0:28:20.280 --> 0:28:23.480
<v Speaker 1>we need to be to beat somebody. And I'm paraphrasing him,

0:28:23.480 --> 0:28:26.400
<v Speaker 1>but Paul, you've heard me say that for years. That

0:28:26.600 --> 0:28:29.560
<v Speaker 1>is a big deal to me, of everything he said

0:28:29.720 --> 0:28:33.520
<v Speaker 1>everything he said today, to me, it was the adaptable

0:28:33.640 --> 0:28:36.840
<v Speaker 1>comment that got my attention because he also went on

0:28:36.920 --> 0:28:39.720
<v Speaker 1>to say, you know, just in general, it's not my

0:28:39.840 --> 0:28:42.320
<v Speaker 1>way or the highway. It's and he said, I'm not

0:28:42.360 --> 0:28:44.840
<v Speaker 1>gonna be that coach. We've always done it this way,

0:28:45.000 --> 0:28:47.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, right. And he went on to say, and

0:28:47.720 --> 0:28:50.560
<v Speaker 1>he's pretty point in comment that if that's your mindset

0:28:50.600 --> 0:28:55.800
<v Speaker 1>in today's NFL, you will die. It's either adapt or die,

0:28:55.840 --> 0:28:58.040
<v Speaker 1>because they even become predictable. If you just have that

0:28:58.160 --> 0:29:00.480
<v Speaker 1>one way of doing it, it's too easy to gain

0:29:00.520 --> 0:29:03.160
<v Speaker 1>plan against. So it doesn't make much sense. And I know,

0:29:03.600 --> 0:29:05.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, he rankled a lot of the Eagles fans

0:29:05.840 --> 0:29:08.200
<v Speaker 1>by saying he doesn't necessarily have a scheme. Well, right

0:29:08.640 --> 0:29:11.320
<v Speaker 1>to your pointing, you've been saying it for years. It's

0:29:11.320 --> 0:29:14.400
<v Speaker 1>a must. You have to do what is necessary to

0:29:14.440 --> 0:29:16.959
<v Speaker 1>match up and defeat the opponent on a week by

0:29:17.000 --> 0:29:20.000
<v Speaker 1>week basis correct. So yes, police, So again, stop and

0:29:20.080 --> 0:29:22.440
<v Speaker 1>think about that. What does that mean? That means? Listen,

0:29:22.440 --> 0:29:26.360
<v Speaker 1>if you if your opponent has a weak rush defense

0:29:26.440 --> 0:29:28.920
<v Speaker 1>by way of example, guess what you got to be

0:29:28.920 --> 0:29:31.200
<v Speaker 1>able to do. You've got to be able to run

0:29:31.240 --> 0:29:34.920
<v Speaker 1>the ball and exploit the fact that they don't have

0:29:35.080 --> 0:29:39.080
<v Speaker 1>a good front seven. If you're if you're facing a

0:29:39.160 --> 0:29:43.320
<v Speaker 1>defense that struggles in the secondary to cover people, whether

0:29:43.360 --> 0:29:46.960
<v Speaker 1>it's physically or a lot of mental errors, they blow

0:29:47.000 --> 0:29:49.640
<v Speaker 1>a lot of assignments in the secondary, whatever it is,

0:29:50.040 --> 0:29:52.640
<v Speaker 1>you've got to be capable of saying, Okay, this week, guys,

0:29:52.920 --> 0:29:56.920
<v Speaker 1>we're going to attack the secondary because that's the weakness

0:29:56.960 --> 0:29:59.760
<v Speaker 1>of this defense, and you flip it over. He was

0:30:00.040 --> 0:30:05.040
<v Speaker 1>talking about from a defensive perspective as well. He was saying, hey, listen,

0:30:05.160 --> 0:30:09.120
<v Speaker 1>four three, you know, three to four, we'll run the

0:30:09.160 --> 0:30:12.000
<v Speaker 1>defense that we need to do. Zone. Do we need

0:30:12.040 --> 0:30:14.640
<v Speaker 1>to run some press man, do we need to run

0:30:14.720 --> 0:30:17.160
<v Speaker 1>that in feature that this week? Or is it going

0:30:17.200 --> 0:30:20.880
<v Speaker 1>to be more zone this week? You know what that means, Paulie.

0:30:20.960 --> 0:30:23.120
<v Speaker 1>You gotta go ahead, and you gotta get guys who

0:30:23.160 --> 0:30:26.680
<v Speaker 1>can fit in that scheme. You gotta get guys that

0:30:26.720 --> 0:30:32.760
<v Speaker 1>can do that. But it's really interesting the adaptability that

0:30:32.880 --> 0:30:36.160
<v Speaker 1>comment to me told me that this guy's got a

0:30:36.320 --> 0:30:39.080
<v Speaker 1>clear understanding of what it's going to take to win

0:30:39.200 --> 0:30:41.960
<v Speaker 1>games in the future. And make no mistake, he feels

0:30:42.000 --> 0:30:45.640
<v Speaker 1>like he has the guy at quarterback. Here's Jonathan Gannon

0:30:45.680 --> 0:30:49.120
<v Speaker 1>when asked about Kyler Murray. Obviously played against Kyler this

0:30:49.240 --> 0:30:53.160
<v Speaker 1>year and it was a unique game plan to put

0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:56.920
<v Speaker 1>together because of his skill set. And you know, I

0:30:57.520 --> 0:31:02.080
<v Speaker 1>use the term he's a problem to defend because what

0:31:02.200 --> 0:31:05.400
<v Speaker 1>he can do. He's a legit problem for defenses. And

0:31:05.480 --> 0:31:07.320
<v Speaker 1>you heard Gannon here on the Big Red Rage say

0:31:07.360 --> 0:31:11.000
<v Speaker 1>just how much sleep defensive coordinators lose trying to game

0:31:11.040 --> 0:31:13.360
<v Speaker 1>plan for Kyler Murray. You got to get Kyler back

0:31:13.360 --> 0:31:16.240
<v Speaker 1>to that, back to where he was the legitimate NFL

0:31:16.360 --> 0:31:19.800
<v Speaker 1>MVP candidate over the first half plus of two thousand

0:31:20.280 --> 0:31:22.959
<v Speaker 1>twenty one. He's got to recapture that and then think

0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:25.160
<v Speaker 1>about the other openings that were out there. Wolf. I mean,

0:31:25.200 --> 0:31:28.280
<v Speaker 1>if you're Demiko Ryans in Houston, Frank Wright and Carolina,

0:31:28.320 --> 0:31:31.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, if you're Shane steike In in Indianapolis, you

0:31:31.000 --> 0:31:33.800
<v Speaker 1>know your quarterback's name. First name is Jack, last name

0:31:33.840 --> 0:31:37.560
<v Speaker 1>is Squat. So here you go. You got Jonathan Gannon

0:31:37.720 --> 0:31:39.880
<v Speaker 1>and he has an appreciation that he has a franchise

0:31:39.960 --> 0:31:43.920
<v Speaker 1>quarterback in the fold. Yeah, Paul, No, it's absolutely This

0:31:43.960 --> 0:31:46.360
<v Speaker 1>is one of the reasons why I wanted a defensive

0:31:46.360 --> 0:31:49.760
<v Speaker 1>minded head coach. I preferred that it's just because he's

0:31:49.760 --> 0:31:53.920
<v Speaker 1>got that built in separation immediately with Kyler Murray. Hey, Kyler,

0:31:54.040 --> 0:31:56.240
<v Speaker 1>you know what, You're the quarterback. I'm the head coach

0:31:56.320 --> 0:31:59.920
<v Speaker 1>on this team. And I don't see a defensive minded

0:32:00.040 --> 0:32:03.680
<v Speaker 1>head coach sitting every day in the quarterback room, the

0:32:03.760 --> 0:32:08.160
<v Speaker 1>quarterback meeting room with the offensive coordinator going over everything

0:32:08.520 --> 0:32:11.800
<v Speaker 1>with Kyler Murray during the season. Now, during the offseason,

0:32:11.840 --> 0:32:14.120
<v Speaker 1>of course, I see a lot of meetings like that,

0:32:14.120 --> 0:32:16.240
<v Speaker 1>There's no doubt about that. But I love the fact

0:32:16.600 --> 0:32:21.640
<v Speaker 1>that he can also present Kyler a defensive perspective, Paul.

0:32:21.760 --> 0:32:25.360
<v Speaker 1>He can tell Kyler Murray what defenses are trying to

0:32:25.480 --> 0:32:29.120
<v Speaker 1>do to him to stop him, and he's got a

0:32:29.240 --> 0:32:32.160
<v Speaker 1>very unique perspective on that. And that's one of the

0:32:32.200 --> 0:32:35.000
<v Speaker 1>reasons why I love a defensive minded head coach. And

0:32:35.040 --> 0:32:37.760
<v Speaker 1>then finally, Paul, I love the fact that he comes

0:32:37.800 --> 0:32:42.400
<v Speaker 1>from the Philadelphia Eagles. Look at their offense. Remember, Paul,

0:32:42.480 --> 0:32:46.640
<v Speaker 1>there was one offense that was so similar to the

0:32:46.680 --> 0:32:49.120
<v Speaker 1>Arizona Cardinal's offense and a lot of the things that

0:32:49.240 --> 0:32:52.320
<v Speaker 1>Kyler Murray does very very well, and it was the

0:32:52.440 --> 0:32:57.160
<v Speaker 1>Philadelphia Eagles and Jalen Hurd's offense. The similarities were there,

0:32:57.720 --> 0:33:00.960
<v Speaker 1>so you know, Jonathan Gannon had a front row seat

0:33:00.960 --> 0:33:05.800
<v Speaker 1>to that. He understands the power of that new age offense,

0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:08.600
<v Speaker 1>the elements of it, and how to mix it maybe

0:33:08.880 --> 0:33:13.640
<v Speaker 1>with the old traditional offense that really has the power

0:33:13.680 --> 0:33:17.760
<v Speaker 1>to turn Kyler Murray and this offense into something special. Right,

0:33:17.800 --> 0:33:20.680
<v Speaker 1>So he's a defensive head coach. Let's revisit his answer

0:33:20.840 --> 0:33:22.680
<v Speaker 1>moments ago here on the Big Red Rage. We asked

0:33:22.720 --> 0:33:25.960
<v Speaker 1>Jonathan an and what he expects from his relationship with Kyler. Yeah,

0:33:25.960 --> 0:33:28.600
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna have a great relationship. You know, he's a

0:33:28.680 --> 0:33:32.880
<v Speaker 1>direct reflection of me. That position is the player that's

0:33:32.920 --> 0:33:35.920
<v Speaker 1>most like a coach on that field because he touches

0:33:35.920 --> 0:33:38.680
<v Speaker 1>it every snap. The vision that we have for him

0:33:38.760 --> 0:33:40.840
<v Speaker 1>is is to maximize his skill set and say, well

0:33:40.880 --> 0:33:43.120
<v Speaker 1>that's kind of general. No, it's not. He can throw

0:33:43.120 --> 0:33:45.480
<v Speaker 1>it over your head. He can beat you on the first, second,

0:33:45.600 --> 0:33:47.560
<v Speaker 1>third level throwing it, and he can beat you on

0:33:47.560 --> 0:33:49.840
<v Speaker 1>the first, second, third level running it. And it's his

0:33:49.920 --> 0:33:52.480
<v Speaker 1>job to maximize that, get that out of Kyler on

0:33:52.520 --> 0:33:55.840
<v Speaker 1>a week by week basis, to put that fear into

0:33:55.920 --> 0:33:59.320
<v Speaker 1>defensive coordinators like he lived it in Week five where

0:33:59.320 --> 0:34:02.160
<v Speaker 1>the Cardinals early lost to the Eagles at home, And

0:34:02.320 --> 0:34:04.240
<v Speaker 1>your point about that game, Well, if how many times

0:34:04.240 --> 0:34:07.400
<v Speaker 1>did we watch that Eagles offense with Jalen Hurts and say, oh,

0:34:07.440 --> 0:34:11.239
<v Speaker 1>that's innovative, Hey, Kyler can do that? Yeah? Right, how

0:34:11.239 --> 0:34:13.280
<v Speaker 1>many times we watched Jalen Hurts, who, by the way,

0:34:13.880 --> 0:34:16.719
<v Speaker 1>had an epic offseason last year and went from a

0:34:16.719 --> 0:34:19.120
<v Speaker 1>pretty good quarterback who got blown out in the playoffs

0:34:19.120 --> 0:34:22.000
<v Speaker 1>to the second team All Pro quarterback in the NFL

0:34:22.200 --> 0:34:24.759
<v Speaker 1>behind Patrick Mahomes, who took his team to a super Bowl.

0:34:24.800 --> 0:34:28.440
<v Speaker 1>So if maybe, just maybe he had Jonathan Gannon witnessing

0:34:28.600 --> 0:34:31.120
<v Speaker 1>what Jalen Hurts did last offseason, he can share some

0:34:31.160 --> 0:34:35.839
<v Speaker 1>of those best practices with Kyler Murray. That's right, Paulie. No, absolutely,

0:34:35.880 --> 0:34:37.399
<v Speaker 1>And you know what. The other thing, I just want

0:34:37.400 --> 0:34:39.880
<v Speaker 1>to say this quickly as well. I love the fact

0:34:39.880 --> 0:34:44.760
<v Speaker 1>that Jonathan Gannon referenced Nick Sirianni as well and gave

0:34:44.880 --> 0:34:48.960
<v Speaker 1>him some props for also helping to develop him. I

0:34:49.080 --> 0:34:52.160
<v Speaker 1>like the fact that he did that. Nick Sirianni prepared

0:34:52.480 --> 0:34:55.480
<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Gannon to be a head coach, and he gave

0:34:55.560 --> 0:34:58.560
<v Speaker 1>him credit for that. He said he was hard on him. Paul.

0:34:58.680 --> 0:35:01.319
<v Speaker 1>I love the fact that he pointed to that said

0:35:01.320 --> 0:35:04.239
<v Speaker 1>he was hard on him, and he was detail oriented,

0:35:04.239 --> 0:35:06.680
<v Speaker 1>but he always had his back. These are the life

0:35:06.760 --> 0:35:10.799
<v Speaker 1>experiences that shape any head coach going forward, and I

0:35:10.920 --> 0:35:13.440
<v Speaker 1>like that. I was watching the Colts press conference with

0:35:13.560 --> 0:35:16.600
<v Speaker 1>Shane steike In, the former Eagles offensive coordinator. He was

0:35:16.640 --> 0:35:20.080
<v Speaker 1>asked for his takeaways working under Nick Sirianni and how

0:35:20.120 --> 0:35:22.440
<v Speaker 1>they turned around a four win team to the Super Bowl.

0:35:22.840 --> 0:35:26.000
<v Speaker 1>The first thing he said, and I quote Sirianni, did

0:35:26.040 --> 0:35:31.200
<v Speaker 1>an unbelievable job of holding people accountable. If something isn't right,

0:35:31.360 --> 0:35:34.600
<v Speaker 1>something has to be said. That's your job as a

0:35:34.640 --> 0:35:39.040
<v Speaker 1>head coach. And I said, ding, ding, ding. If Jonathan Gannon,

0:35:39.520 --> 0:35:42.320
<v Speaker 1>if that's his main takeaway and the Cardinals are suffering

0:35:42.320 --> 0:35:45.600
<v Speaker 1>from an accountability problem, you see the fit, You see

0:35:45.640 --> 0:35:48.080
<v Speaker 1>that alignment. You see why he is the current Cardinal's

0:35:48.120 --> 0:35:50.560
<v Speaker 1>head coach. Back with Moore on the Big Red Rage

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<v Speaker 1>presented by santan Ford in Gilbert back to Pasco's doll one.

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<v Speaker 1>First down fires over the middle of the ball is

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<v Speaker 1>tipped in the air and picked off of the thirty

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<v Speaker 1>yard line, running left to the twenty Marco Wilson to

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<v Speaker 1>the ten, he high stepped and then he does a

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<v Speaker 1>flip into the ends over the cutdown, Marco Wilson with

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<v Speaker 1>a pick six and the Cardinals take the league twenty

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<v Speaker 1>the fourteen Dalton straight drop back throws over the middle

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<v Speaker 1>and a one handed interception by Isaiah Simmons in midfield

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<v Speaker 1>runs it back to the left of the burning had

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<v Speaker 1>the thirty, had the twenty five, had the twenty head

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<v Speaker 1>Simmons in back come back intercept, he returns for cutdowns

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<v Speaker 1>by the Cardinals at the end of the half. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my goodness, want to play. Isaiah Simmons just standing there

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<v Speaker 1>in his own room on the middle of the field,

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<v Speaker 1>put his hand out his right hand and picked it

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<v Speaker 1>off and then he hit the jets. There's that sub

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<v Speaker 1>four four of Isaiah Simmons touchstyle, baby and the crazy

0:36:56.840 --> 0:37:00.000
<v Speaker 1>athleticism that was on display in that big win against

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<v Speaker 1>New Orleans on Thursday night. Two of the young pieces

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<v Speaker 1>on that defense, Isaiah Simmons, Marco Wilson. The question is

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<v Speaker 1>where will they play here in two twenty three. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Wilson's a corner obviously, where he's going to rank

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<v Speaker 1>in the pecking order, we'll see about Byron Murphy, Isaiah

0:37:16.760 --> 0:37:21.000
<v Speaker 1>Simmons got his most snaps at slot corner, Ron Wolfley,

0:37:21.160 --> 0:37:23.319
<v Speaker 1>Paul Kelveci. It is a big red rage presented by

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<v Speaker 1>Santan Ford in Gilbert. What do you think, Well, if

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<v Speaker 1>if you're a betting man, do you believe Isaiah Simmons

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<v Speaker 1>continues to get his most looks and snaps and reps

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<v Speaker 1>at slot corner or is there another spot on this

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<v Speaker 1>defense for him eventually? Yeah? You know what, Polly, I

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<v Speaker 1>think maybe the edge and I know that it's because

0:37:42.680 --> 0:37:46.080
<v Speaker 1>Hassan red Eck is well. We all know that Jonathan

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<v Speaker 1>Gannon is coming from the Eagles and Hassan Reddick. But

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<v Speaker 1>the similarities are definitely there between Hassan and Isaiah Simmons,

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<v Speaker 1>two very very explosive athletes. And you have to wonder

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<v Speaker 1>if Isaiah Simmons, with all the things he can do,

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<v Speaker 1>if you stick him at edge, how good could he

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<v Speaker 1>possibly be? Well, Jonathan Gannon was asked about Isaiah Simmons

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<v Speaker 1>and how he will be used all different ways. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna use guys skill sets to present matchup problems. That's adaptability.

0:38:23.120 --> 0:38:25.880
<v Speaker 1>When I talk about adaptability, I'm talking about our people

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<v Speaker 1>in mind first and then who were playing. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a chess match with schematics of

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<v Speaker 1>how you need to do that, all while keeping it

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<v Speaker 1>simple for your guys so we can go out and

0:38:36.000 --> 0:38:38.719
<v Speaker 1>play fast and be violent. You just want to get

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<v Speaker 1>to the point. This is me. Now, this is me.

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<v Speaker 1>If a quarterback breaks the huddle and the first thing

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<v Speaker 1>he looks for is Isaiah Simmons. Yeah, that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just that X factor. I don't care where you use him.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want him to be that game changing sort

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<v Speaker 1>of factor out there that I really do believe he

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<v Speaker 1>can be. He has the measurables, obviously, you just have

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out a way to unlock it. And really

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<v Speaker 1>curious to see, just as much as how Kyler flourishes

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<v Speaker 1>under this new coaching staff, what is in store for

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<v Speaker 1>Isaiah Simmons. PAULI, No, that is a great point, It

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<v Speaker 1>really is, because I want to see it. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I want to say. I want to see them

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<v Speaker 1>take Isaiah Simmons and I don't care where it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Just stick him there. Just just let them get wraps

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<v Speaker 1>and say this is your position, and we expect you

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<v Speaker 1>to make plays at this position. It's one of the

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<v Speaker 1>reasons why as an edge I'm looking at the edge

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<v Speaker 1>and thinking, hey, listen, that would be kind of cool,

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<v Speaker 1>especially if you could get will Landerson and put him

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<v Speaker 1>on the other side. You know what I'm saying. Anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>you get my point. But Isaiah Simmons is a guy

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<v Speaker 1>that needs to take another step forward. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>one of the pluses about having a defensive minded head

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<v Speaker 1>coach as well, because of all the young guys that

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<v Speaker 1>I think really can take the next step in their

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<v Speaker 1>development as a defensive player, Isaiah Simmons certainly comes to

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<v Speaker 1>mind first and foremost. I would say Xavian Collins as well,

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<v Speaker 1>taking yet again another step forward in his development as well.

0:40:10.000 --> 0:40:12.239
<v Speaker 1>He did it all last year. It was a very

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<v Speaker 1>incremental advance for xaban Collins, but it definitely happened last

0:40:16.920 --> 0:40:20.239
<v Speaker 1>year where he was getting better incrementally, but he was

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<v Speaker 1>getting better as a inside linebacker, and we want to

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<v Speaker 1>see him continue with that development. Marco Wilson another young guy.

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<v Speaker 1>They've got young guys, some good defensive player, Buddha Baker,

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<v Speaker 1>Are you kidding me? Just off the Jalen Thompson. They've

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<v Speaker 1>got guys that are great playmakers. And Jonathan Gannon is

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<v Speaker 1>going to have a little something to work with here,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's something that he has in store for every player,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's called accountability. He was asked about that player

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<v Speaker 1>accountability is simply this. You got to define what winning

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<v Speaker 1>behavior is and hold people to that standard. It's as

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<v Speaker 1>easy as that. It's your daily actions with what you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing on a daily basis to improve yourself as a

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<v Speaker 1>player and as a team. And accountability is just not

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<v Speaker 1>a negative, it's a positive too. So when people do

0:41:08.000 --> 0:41:11.600
<v Speaker 1>the right thing, that shows that's winning behavior. And you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to see that our guys, we're gonna love him

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<v Speaker 1>up as hard as we're going to be on our guys.

0:41:16.480 --> 0:41:18.439
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna love him up even more. And he said,

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<v Speaker 1>the ultimate accountability is when you feel that responsibility your teammate,

0:41:23.440 --> 0:41:26.799
<v Speaker 1>and it's that relationship in the locker room and in

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<v Speaker 1>the huddle that holds you accountable. And you've talked about

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<v Speaker 1>that at length. Yeah, Poullie, it's so true right there. Accountability.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the fact he took the positive angle on

0:41:35.640 --> 0:41:38.279
<v Speaker 1>that as well, because everyone thinks that's what it is.

0:41:38.320 --> 0:41:40.319
<v Speaker 1>You just walk up and say, dude, you're killing us

0:41:40.360 --> 0:41:42.759
<v Speaker 1>what are you doing here? It's not just that, it's

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<v Speaker 1>also reinforcing positive behavior and good behavior. It's reinforcing that

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<v Speaker 1>and I love the fact he's got a clear delineation

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<v Speaker 1>on that. By the way, well, Jonathan Gannon, former Philadelphia

0:41:54.120 --> 0:41:57.520
<v Speaker 1>Eagles defensive coordinator last two years, called the Cardinals defense.

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<v Speaker 1>Not sure on that yet. That's going to depend a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of a makeup of the staff. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I got a really good blueprint in Philly of how

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<v Speaker 1>that went with the head coach and how he adapted

0:42:09.160 --> 0:42:13.359
<v Speaker 1>to make our team better. So I'll figure that out

0:42:13.400 --> 0:42:15.600
<v Speaker 1>as we come. And if you're using Nick Sirianni as

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<v Speaker 1>a blueprint, he came over from Indie where he called plays,

0:42:18.680 --> 0:42:21.160
<v Speaker 1>but he delegated that the Shane Steichen, who was now

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<v Speaker 1>the head coach of the Colts. So although he definitely

0:42:25.120 --> 0:42:28.960
<v Speaker 1>had the ability, he outsourced that and he just became

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<v Speaker 1>the CEO and head coach and did not call plays.

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<v Speaker 1>So I could see it going either way with Jonathan Gannon, Yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with you on that one. PAULI. Yeah, I will

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<v Speaker 1>just throw this in here. He was very complimentary when

0:42:40.320 --> 0:42:42.360
<v Speaker 1>I said, Mike Zimmer, what do you think of Mike Zimmer.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't confirm anything. He did not do that. He

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<v Speaker 1>didn't confirm anything, but he was very complimentary. Paul Well,

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<v Speaker 1>and it sort of makes sense if you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>bring in a former head coach a lot of experience

0:42:55.440 --> 0:42:57.520
<v Speaker 1>and a first time head coach has that ability to

0:42:57.640 --> 0:42:59.879
<v Speaker 1>lean on him, Mike Zimmer not unlike a Cliff Kings

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<v Speaker 1>with Vance Joseph, who, by the way, reportedly is interviewing

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<v Speaker 1>with the Eagles now for their defensive coordinator spot and

0:43:06.400 --> 0:43:10.439
<v Speaker 1>the Broncos for their DC gig Vans Joseph, So that

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<v Speaker 1>might dictate exactly where the Cardinals are on defense right

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<v Speaker 1>because Vans Joseph is under contract next year and it's

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<v Speaker 1>still a possibility he could be on the Cardinal sideline again. Yeah,

0:43:21.360 --> 0:43:23.920
<v Speaker 1>and Paula, can I just say from a personal perspective,

0:43:23.920 --> 0:43:26.040
<v Speaker 1>and I know you feel exactly the same way. I

0:43:26.080 --> 0:43:28.960
<v Speaker 1>hope he gets it. I hope he gets that because

0:43:29.520 --> 0:43:32.880
<v Speaker 1>Vans Joseph deserves good things. Man, He's a good coach,

0:43:33.000 --> 0:43:35.400
<v Speaker 1>and I think at some point in time that's a

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<v Speaker 1>guy who will be a head coach again. Totally agree.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. My one final takeaway was when Jonathan Gannon

0:43:42.719 --> 0:43:46.040
<v Speaker 1>said he has already disagreed with Manias and fort Yeah,

0:43:46.120 --> 0:43:48.320
<v Speaker 1>they disagreed during the interview a couple of times. You

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<v Speaker 1>heard him during our interview here, And so I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I like the fact that, you know what, you have

0:43:54.080 --> 0:43:56.359
<v Speaker 1>a GM and a head coach. You're already comfortable enough.

0:43:56.760 --> 0:43:58.640
<v Speaker 1>They don't feel like they have to. You know that

0:43:58.800 --> 0:44:01.920
<v Speaker 1>they can actually tell each other their true opinion on

0:44:02.040 --> 0:44:06.160
<v Speaker 1>something and veted out, hash it out, and usually that's

0:44:06.200 --> 0:44:09.440
<v Speaker 1>for the betterment of the organization. It is Paul discourse.

0:44:09.440 --> 0:44:13.080
<v Speaker 1>There's nothing wrong with that. There are so many philosophies,

0:44:13.120 --> 0:44:16.280
<v Speaker 1>so many beliefs in regard to the game of football.

0:44:16.360 --> 0:44:19.600
<v Speaker 1>You're never gonna be one hundred percent aligned anywhere. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with you on that one. I like it all right. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Congratulations and welcome to the Cardinals new head coach joining

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<v Speaker 1>us here. We got a nice window in his personality,

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<v Speaker 1>some of his thoughts and plans, and now he plans

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<v Speaker 1>to go about his job once again. Three offensive coordinator

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<v Speaker 1>candidates to be interviewed in the next four eight hours,

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