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Speaker 1: hundred percent ready. I'm telling you i'mready. And Ron Wolflee,
Speaker 1: it doesn't get any better than that boy, unleash the
Speaker 1: far So. After meeting, interviewing, and spending a little time
Speaker 1: with a brand new head coach, Jonathan Gannon, you know
Speaker 1: what I did next? Wolf? What was that? BOLLI? I
Speaker 1: immediately went out to the practice field here at Cardinals HQ,
Speaker 1: and I hit the blocking slat Oh stop, and then
Speaker 1: I set up the tackling dummies like ran through the
Speaker 1: tackling dummies. I gave a couple of them the forearms shiver.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. I am ready to come
Speaker 1: off the ball on this very special edition head Coach
Speaker 1: edition of the Big Red Rage, presented by Santan Ford
Speaker 1: and Gilbert. We are Santan Ford, and I might need
Speaker 1: to pace myself here in the offseason, but you know what,
Speaker 1: that energy today was infectious and boom. I was ready
Speaker 1: to go. You're ready to hit him high, hit him
Speaker 1: pie Pipe. I'll give you the effort, Ron wolf I'll
Speaker 1: be the try hard guy. If nothing else, you can
Speaker 1: bring the analysis here that was already me. I was
Speaker 1: the try hard guy. Folly, you can't have that one,
Speaker 1: I know. Okay, So here we go, Ron Wolfley, there,
Speaker 1: Paul kelvc here and in front of the media, meeting
Speaker 1: the media and the red seat Jonathan Gannon, and we
Speaker 1: will hear from the head coach a little bit later. Yes,
Speaker 1: we'll go one on one a little bit later and
Speaker 1: we'll do that meet and greet. But first let's get
Speaker 1: a few impressions. First impressions based on his opening press comments,
Speaker 1: Ron wolf Lee, what says you, man, PAULI, where do
Speaker 1: you begin on this one right here. First of all,
Speaker 1: I like his demeanor. I like the fact that he
Speaker 1: wasn't way up here. I like that. I know that
Speaker 1: he's a high energy guy, but I like the fact
Speaker 1: that he was more even keel for the most part
Speaker 1: coming into this. You know what, he's an excitable guy.
Speaker 1: I love the fact he said it's also very humbling,
Speaker 1: and I think that was one of the reasons why
Speaker 1: it was very even keel throughout the entire press conference,
Speaker 1: to me, was because he knew what was going on.
Speaker 1: He knew the moment was huge. Even though he's a
Speaker 1: high energy guy and he's an excitable guy. The humility
Speaker 1: that he displayed realizing what was going on at this
Speaker 1: press conference and the fact that he's forty years old
Speaker 1: and here he is a head coach and the National
Speaker 1: Football League guy. I loved the context of this, Paul,
Speaker 1: and I love the quiet confidence that he conveyed when
Speaker 1: he said, we're going to win games. Don't get it twisted.
Speaker 1: We're going to win games. And he let that hang,
Speaker 1: you know, Like you said, he looked like he'd been
Speaker 1: there and done that before, even though he's a first
Speaker 1: time head coach and we're gonna ask him about that.
Speaker 1: Just you know, was he nervous. I mean a lot
Speaker 1: of those first time head coaches meeting the meeting, he
Speaker 1: certainly didn't look it. And the more he spoke and
Speaker 1: the more he answered questions, the more I understood, Okay,
Speaker 1: this indeed is a good fit. This is what they
Speaker 1: were looking for. You understand how many boxes he checked.
Speaker 1: In fact, the owner, Michael Bidwell, he spoke a little
Speaker 1: bit about that about how everything aligned. I think he
Speaker 1: came in with a vision and plan that the vision
Speaker 1: aligned with where we want to be about getting back
Speaker 1: to the top of the NFC West and competing in
Speaker 1: January and competing to get to the Super Bowl and
Speaker 1: win it. So that's number one with a vision, his
Speaker 1: plan he outlined, it's the view that he had of
Speaker 1: our elite quarterback and getting him back to being the
Speaker 1: playmaker that he is. Think of some of the big
Speaker 1: boxes that Jonathan Gannon checks, his philosophy and approach with
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, especially working the last two years with the
Speaker 1: jail and Hurts. The accountability issue that Michael Bidwell identified
Speaker 1: going into the offseason maybe the driving reason why significant
Speaker 1: changes were made in the organization at GM and head coach.
Speaker 1: You then look at the energy and leadership he brought today, right,
Speaker 1: and then the final thing is the more he spoke,
Speaker 1: you just come to realize. Okay, he was an integral
Speaker 1: part of taking a four win team two years ago
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl. Yeah. So if anybody's been there
Speaker 1: and done that, look what he did. You know Nick
Speaker 1: Sirianni and that staff with the Philadelphia Eagles. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I thought it was cool that Michael actually reference that
Speaker 1: the plan and the vision that he thought Coach Gannon had.
Speaker 1: And for me, when I think about that, the plan
Speaker 1: and the vision Paul, I can hear him saying, we
Speaker 1: need to be adaptable, right, So that's what we need.
Speaker 1: We need adaptable, we need violent, we need explosive, we
Speaker 1: need smart. I love the fact that he had this
Speaker 1: four point vision, so to speak. That he emphasized that
Speaker 1: to me really got me jacked up because that says
Speaker 1: what the plan is and what the vision may be
Speaker 1: going forward. Because Baali can have all the schemes in
Speaker 1: the world, of course, but you got to populated with
Speaker 1: human beings. And you know what when he said that,
Speaker 1: and the room was loaded with Cardinals players, they're a
Speaker 1: bunch in the front row, including Kyler Murray. There were
Speaker 1: a bunch in the back. Byron Murphy was next to
Speaker 1: me in the back because we were doing live coverage
Speaker 1: before and after so Boom. I'm trying to get a
Speaker 1: view around some of these big players and almost all
Speaker 1: the players added a couple of fist pumps in there
Speaker 1: as he put in, you know, as he said the
Speaker 1: word violent, explosive, and smart. You know, I think maybe
Speaker 1: inside manti Astinfort was cheering as well. In fact, he
Speaker 1: was asked the Cardinals due GM, why Jonathan Gannon. Ultimately,
Speaker 1: our process led us to Jonathan. Jonathan's energy when he
Speaker 1: entered our room. It was NonStop from the beginning. His
Speaker 1: reputation as a leader, his ability to connect to players,
Speaker 1: to staff, to the rest of his coaches, his ability
Speaker 1: to work with a personnel department and provide a vision
Speaker 1: for the type of players that we're going to go
Speaker 1: out and seek. It was apparent that Jonathan shared a
Speaker 1: lot of the same values that I value and that
Speaker 1: Michael values. In fact, Michael Bidwell said at one point
Speaker 1: that he was a little subdued Jonathan Gannon based on
Speaker 1: what he was like during the interview. I was like Okay.
Speaker 1: You know, man, what's the energy level going to be
Speaker 1: like when they get out there on the grass. So
Speaker 1: you know, you tell me, Wolf, I mean, to what
Speaker 1: degree do you believe team takes on the personality of
Speaker 1: its head coach? And how significant is that? Yeah, Paully,
Speaker 1: it does. There's no doubt he's an aggressive guy. He
Speaker 1: really is. I can tell just by some of the
Speaker 1: words that he uses, the fact that he actually used violent,
Speaker 1: He used that right there. We all know. It's within
Speaker 1: the context and the paradigm of playing the game of
Speaker 1: football once you step in between those white lines. But
Speaker 1: that is a strong word to use, Paul, even inside
Speaker 1: that paradigm, that is a strong word to use in it.
Speaker 1: To me, it's like saying I love you, okay, it's
Speaker 1: it just makes me feel good because that is the
Speaker 1: game of football. When you step in between those lines.
Speaker 1: You've got to step in between those lines with some
Speaker 1: bad intentions, and it's okay, because it's all right to
Speaker 1: do that inside those lines. And then you step outside
Speaker 1: those lines and you love people and respect him and
Speaker 1: treat him better than yourself. Paul, You've heard me say
Speaker 1: this for years. It's just the truth. It's one of
Speaker 1: the things that I love the most about the game.
Speaker 1: And man, just listening to Jonathan Gannon, he taps into that,
Speaker 1: and that tells me they're gonna go out Paulie and
Speaker 1: they're gonna look for players that fit that mode, no doubt.
Speaker 1: In fact, he was on NFL Network and they asked
Speaker 1: him about his offensive philosophy because and we're gonna get
Speaker 1: into this a little bit later. You know, yes, he's
Speaker 1: a defensive coordinated the last couple of years, but he
Speaker 1: has a very definitive sense of what he wants on
Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball. And in response to
Speaker 1: one of the questions, he said, and I quote, we're
Speaker 1: gonna throw it over people's heads and run it down
Speaker 1: people's throats. Wait, that's a great line there. So that's
Speaker 1: to your point. That just further illustrates your point. Well, look,
Speaker 1: we've all seen the video of him in his truck
Speaker 1: pulling up to the Eagles facility before the NFC Championship
Speaker 1: game and then rolling down his window, right, and he
Speaker 1: was egged on by a lot of the fans like
Speaker 1: Jared and he yells out, we're gonna bleeping gut these
Speaker 1: guys to me, and we're gonna ask him about that
Speaker 1: when we have him on here momentarily on the big
Speaker 1: red ray Sean I thinking, but to me, him rolling
Speaker 1: down his window, that's really a window into his personality. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I think that's who he is. That's aw ultra aggressive
Speaker 1: he is as a coach and a competitor. What are
Speaker 1: you saying, bully that words matter? And you know that
Speaker 1: they do. And again, it's one thing to say it.
Speaker 1: Now you got to go out and you got to
Speaker 1: back it up. You got to mean it, because many
Speaker 1: times you can actually see a guy and you can
Speaker 1: get a little mesmerized by the guy's talent. You can bully.
Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that, there's no denying that. And
Speaker 1: a lot of times you forget that. The game of
Speaker 1: football is not played just by athletes. It's not played
Speaker 1: by people that have a ton of talent. It's also
Speaker 1: a combination of toughness that you need as well. There's
Speaker 1: got to be some standard in each player of toughness,
Speaker 1: some level of toughness that you need to bring into
Speaker 1: that locker room that can go out there and then
Speaker 1: use that talent inside that paradigm that incredibly physical, aggressive,
Speaker 1: tough paradigm known as an NFL football game. In order
Speaker 1: to tap into all that talent, you got to have
Speaker 1: a monicum of toughness. And that's something they're going to
Speaker 1: be looking at and trying to balance in every guide ball,
Speaker 1: every guy Paul they bring into that locker room, they're
Speaker 1: gonna have to balance that. And you know what, as
Speaker 1: a head coach with a scouting background as well, he's
Speaker 1: got an eye for that sort of stuff. In fact,
Speaker 1: he was asked Jonathan Gannon on the one characteristic each
Speaker 1: member of the team will have. I know Monny and
Speaker 1: Michael have heard me say this multiple times. Everybody that
Speaker 1: we bring in here or that is here or that
Speaker 1: will be a cardinal, will have elite football character because
Speaker 1: you will not hit your ceiling if you don't have that.
Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is is you have
Speaker 1: to be team first, and that's how we're going to
Speaker 1: build this team. He said. It goes back to when
Speaker 1: he was a kid, his coaches, his dad. It's not
Speaker 1: about you, it's about the team. That was another answer
Speaker 1: he gave. That's just part of the DNA of how
Speaker 1: he goes about running a football team, and it goes
Speaker 1: back into the whole accountability thing that Michael Bidwell, Manias
Speaker 1: and fort we're looking for. Because look, leadership takes different forms.
Speaker 1: We know that, and his style of leadership I think
Speaker 1: is going to be not only a modern style where
Speaker 1: it connects with the players, but there's gonna be some
Speaker 1: old school aspects of it as well, where there's gonna
Speaker 1: be a lot of tough love and some significant expectations
Speaker 1: that it's not just about you, and a lot of
Speaker 1: guys are gonna be asked to do things and maybe
Speaker 1: aren't going to help them all that much in their
Speaker 1: contract negotiations, but it'll be better for the team, no doubt, Paulie,
Speaker 1: And that got me excited. I really did. What are
Speaker 1: the possibilities that are out there? Right though? First of all,
Speaker 1: it's every guy. This is what he made it a
Speaker 1: point of emphasis to say every guy that we bring
Speaker 1: in here is he's got to have elite football character. Pollie,
Speaker 1: That to me, I love that kind of terminology. You
Speaker 1: have a culture, you have a way that we do
Speaker 1: things around here, and every guy that we consider, we're
Speaker 1: going to drag him through that culture and see if
Speaker 1: he actually makes it to the other side before we
Speaker 1: bring him in here. I love that mentality and I
Speaker 1: hope they stick to that with the elite football character. Well,
Speaker 1: on the other side, here on the big Red Rage,
Speaker 1: we're gonna meet and greet Jonathan Gannon. Next we'll ask
Speaker 1: him about accountability, his playing for Kyler, right, his vision
Speaker 1: for the offense. You know, we'll ask him about the
Speaker 1: video of him rolling down his window right shouting out.
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Speaker 1: extremely excited today to be in front of you and
Speaker 1: I have the honor of introducing Jonathan Gannon as the
Speaker 1: next head coach of the Arizona Cardinals. Just know this,
Speaker 1: We're gonna be adaptable, we're gonna be violent, we're gonna
Speaker 1: be explosive, and we're gonna be smart and all three
Speaker 1: phases go into that. And we will maximize the talents
Speaker 1: of the players that we have, and that's how we're
Speaker 1: gonna win games. And don't get it twisted. We're gonna
Speaker 1: win games, Adaptable, violent, explosive, and smart. The vision, the blueprint,
Speaker 1: the DNA of the Arizona Cardinals going forward. And when
Speaker 1: those words were uttered, I was standing in the press
Speaker 1: conference room next to a bunch of players, and every
Speaker 1: one of them nodded, a couple of them fist pumped.
Speaker 1: And now we have the man who said those words,
Speaker 1: who now leads the Arizona Cardinals onto the field of
Speaker 1: effective immediately. The eleventh head coach in Arizona Cardinals history,
Speaker 1: Jonathan Gannon, joins us on the Big Red Rage presented
Speaker 1: by Santan Ford in Gilbert Coach. Welcome and congratulations. Thank you, Paul.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Excited to be here and excited to
Speaker 1: get ready to work. Were you nervous at all? I
Speaker 1: got to ask you one question. I've seen a lot
Speaker 1: of press conferences, a lot of first time head coaches, right,
Speaker 1: you didn't appear to be nervous whatsoever, even with all
Speaker 1: the cameras in the packed auditorious Yeah. No, I you know,
Speaker 1: the last two years in Philly, that's a tough media market,
Speaker 1: so I kind of got baptized by fire. But no,
Speaker 1: I think you just answer questions what's your what's in
Speaker 1: your head, and what's in your heart, and if you're honest,
Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about what you're saying. And
Speaker 1: so that's how I kind of do it. But it's
Speaker 1: an exciting time obviously to be in that but I've
Speaker 1: been in that setting before, obviously not as a head coach,
Speaker 1: but you know, it's part of the job, all right.
Speaker 1: So tell me about the emotion of the moment because
Speaker 1: we can talk about what's straight ahead and we'll talk
Speaker 1: about that all offsea. But you're now one of thirty
Speaker 1: two after fifteen years in the NFL. What was it
Speaker 1: like to be offered the job. Yeah, it's it's it's exciting,
Speaker 1: but it's humbling, you know, because there's a lot of
Speaker 1: good coaches that helped me get to this seat, and
Speaker 1: uh maybe that never had gotten an opportunity to do
Speaker 1: now what I'm doing, but you know, you just you're
Speaker 1: very it's a it's a grateful moment because of all
Speaker 1: the people that helped me get here, and I'm so
Speaker 1: grateful for working for all those guys and learning from
Speaker 1: all those people. But uh, you know, really excited, really grateful.
Speaker 1: It's really humbling. What do you think landed you the job?
Speaker 1: What are your strengths? I would say, you know, just
Speaker 1: sitting down with Michael and Mannie just talking about the
Speaker 1: vision of how I want to build a team and play,
Speaker 1: and I think my strengths would be is I care
Speaker 1: about the players. And I've done a good job in
Speaker 1: my career so far of getting to maximize the players
Speaker 1: and you know, and get them to hit their ceilings.
Speaker 1: But you know, ultimately it's servant leadership. You got to
Speaker 1: you got to care about the players as people first
Speaker 1: then as then as players, and you want to see
Speaker 1: them do well, you know. And I think the other
Speaker 1: thing that they really liked, and I think that it
Speaker 1: helped our defense and Philly was to explain to them
Speaker 1: and tell them the reasons why that the team goes
Speaker 1: above themselves. It's not about you, It's about the team.
Speaker 1: And you know, when they understand how they fit in
Speaker 1: and their role that they fit in to the defense
Speaker 1: or to the team, they can accept that and really
Speaker 1: be very productive and be a star within their role.
Speaker 1: And that's what you're looking for. However, many guys you
Speaker 1: got up on game day, are we are you a
Speaker 1: starring your role, and your role can change from week
Speaker 1: to week. It can go up, it can go down.
Speaker 1: But as long as guys recognize that, then they're on
Speaker 1: board with what you're asking them to do. There's high
Speaker 1: accountability and ultimately you got to go out and play
Speaker 1: good football. Jonathan Gannon is our guest on The Big
Speaker 1: Red Rage. According brand new head coach, when the season
Speaker 1: ended and changes, the roommate Michael Bidwell cited accountability and
Speaker 1: need to improve. He cited that in hiring you, that's
Speaker 1: job number one. How do you define accountability? Especially from
Speaker 1: a player's perspective, winning behavior? So what I mean by
Speaker 1: that is there's there's winning behavior. Will show them exactly
Speaker 1: what that looks like and hold them to that standard.
Speaker 1: And ultimately that's what your culture is. It's your daily
Speaker 1: actions on a day to day basis of how are
Speaker 1: you improving your process? How are you getting better as
Speaker 1: a player? And the accountability And you heard me say
Speaker 1: that in the presser was you know, I think people
Speaker 1: sometimes cringe because they think that's a negative word. It's
Speaker 1: it can be, but it can also be in more
Speaker 1: so used in a positive way. There's positive accountability. Hey,
Speaker 1: this is what we're talking about that's winning behavior right there.
Speaker 1: That's what we need to keep doing. Good job, And
Speaker 1: so the players will they'll know that for us, but
Speaker 1: we're we won't shy away from conflict. We'll show them
Speaker 1: this is what winning behavior looks like and this is
Speaker 1: what it doesn't and we need to improve these things
Speaker 1: or we'll lose. And you're coming off an operation where
Speaker 1: you went from a four win team to the super
Speaker 1: Bowl in two years? What did you learn? What did
Speaker 1: you learn? What can you apply immediately from what you
Speaker 1: were just part of accomplishing in Philly? Yeah, process driven,
Speaker 1: being very enthused about what you're doing, and high accountability
Speaker 1: and high communication and everybody. When everybody's on the same
Speaker 1: page and they understand their role, how they fit into
Speaker 1: the team, then it allows you to do your job
Speaker 1: at a high level. And so that's what I would say.
Speaker 1: That's why I say about Nick. You know, that's what
Speaker 1: he did a phenomenal job about. And then you know,
Speaker 1: the backburner to that is is being adaptable. You know,
Speaker 1: we started going out one way and we changed because
Speaker 1: it wasn't working. Then we got it going a little
Speaker 1: bit and then it wasn't working and we changed or
Speaker 1: then we doubled down on some things that we know
Speaker 1: to be true too when it was working, or maybe
Speaker 1: if it wasn't working, Hey, we know, sooner or later
Speaker 1: the results will come. We gotta keep doubling down on
Speaker 1: our process. So just the clear vision that Nick had
Speaker 1: for everybody in that organization how to win games. What's
Speaker 1: your vision for Kyler Murray? Michael Bidwill cited that was
Speaker 1: a big factor in you're hiring maximizing Kyler, getting him
Speaker 1: back to the playmaker we've seen him be. What sort
Speaker 1: of relationship do you envision, especially as a defensive head. Come, yeah,
Speaker 1: We're gonna have a great relationship. You know, he's he's
Speaker 1: a direct reflection of me, you know, and he's the
Speaker 1: player that position, is the player that's most like a
Speaker 1: coach on that field because he touches it every snap.
Speaker 1: But you know, the vision that we have for him
Speaker 1: is is to maximize his skill set. And say, well
Speaker 1: that's kind of general. No, it's not. He can throw
Speaker 1: it over your head, he can beat you on first, second,
Speaker 1: third level throwing it, and he can beat you on
Speaker 1: the first, second, third level running it. And when you
Speaker 1: have a type of player like that, well that's what
Speaker 1: we're gonna do. We're gonna When you have to defend
Speaker 1: a guy like that, it puts the defense in conflict
Speaker 1: and you can't do everything that you want to do
Speaker 1: as a defense because you know that he can beat
Speaker 1: you different ways. So with him understanding, I'll work hard
Speaker 1: with making sure that he understands from a defensive perspective, Hey, dude,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna get this because they can't run those
Speaker 1: calls because of this, or you're gonna get a lot
Speaker 1: of this because of who you are. So what's our
Speaker 1: plan for that? Because I know they're gonna spy you.
Speaker 1: I know they're gonna three man rush, two man rush,
Speaker 1: four man rush, and they're gonna spy you. So that
Speaker 1: stresses out the coverage. So that's make sure we're doing
Speaker 1: a good job with that. A lot of different things
Speaker 1: that we'll talk about as we get going, but he'll
Speaker 1: have a very very clear understanding of how he needs
Speaker 1: to operate running the offense and what defenses are going
Speaker 1: to try to do to stop him, because that is best.
Speaker 1: He keeps up defensive coordinators all night. Yes he does.
Speaker 1: He was one of the hardest guys to prepare for
Speaker 1: this year. I mean That's why I say he's a
Speaker 1: legit problem. And although you're looking for an offensive coordinator,
Speaker 1: you have a vision as to how you want to
Speaker 1: play offense. I no doubt, yeah, and I'll and I
Speaker 1: will definitely, I'm gonna talk to a lot of people.
Speaker 1: I got some good guys in mind, but you know
Speaker 1: it goes into being adaptable. I don't want a system guy,
Speaker 1: I really don't. I want a guy that's been in
Speaker 1: multiple systems because I wanted to be able to sure
Speaker 1: that I want to be sure that we are maximizing
Speaker 1: Kyler and the other players on our offense, not just Kyler.
Speaker 1: You know James Connor, Rondell, Hollywood, Zach, all those players
Speaker 1: who you know, how DJ Humphreys. We don't need to
Speaker 1: slide to this guy can block anyone in the world
Speaker 1: one on one. Let's slide the other way. Whatever we're doing,
Speaker 1: you got to put together the plan that maximizes everybody,
Speaker 1: not just Kyler. So I wanted to be the Arizona
Speaker 1: Cardinals system, not this guy's system from nineteen eighty that
Speaker 1: was passed down for forty years. We're not gonna play
Speaker 1: offense like that. Jonathan Gannon is our guests you're wrapping
Speaker 1: it up on the big red rage when you roll
Speaker 1: down your window and shouted out the Eagles fans before
Speaker 1: the NFC Championship, what you wanted to do to the Niners?
Speaker 1: To what degree? Was that a window into your personality?
Speaker 1: A little bit? A little bit. I normally keep my
Speaker 1: feelings close to the vest um, but I was feeling
Speaker 1: it that morning and there was guys, you know, beeping
Speaker 1: at me. Let's go, JG, Let's go, JG, Let's go,
Speaker 1: and uh rolled down my window and that's what I
Speaker 1: was feeling. So that's what I said. So I'll always
Speaker 1: be myself. I'll always be honest. But you know, I
Speaker 1: have a I have a way in my brain that
Speaker 1: how I want to play, and uh, you know, not
Speaker 1: like that, but uh, you know, it's a it's a contact,
Speaker 1: physical sport. And that's why I use the term violent.
Speaker 1: We're going to be a violent team. And you've already
Speaker 1: been honest with Monti Austin Fort. Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know if Michael loved it, but Minie loved it.
Speaker 1: You guys went back and forth on the roster. Oh
Speaker 1: oh yeah, oh oh yeah. We went back and forth
Speaker 1: on the roster because you're scouting background. Correct, you feel equipped? Right?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah it was. It was a really
Speaker 1: good conversation. Well, Monnie has called that the lifeblood of
Speaker 1: any organization. You have to have that organizational alignment between
Speaker 1: them and the head coach. How much did you research
Speaker 1: the Cardinals? They obviously researched you. What about the other
Speaker 1: way around? Yeah, a lot. And I had to do
Speaker 1: it quick, you know, so, and I actually did it
Speaker 1: as the interview was going on and as we paused too,
Speaker 1: so uh, you know, it was all good stuff. And
Speaker 1: I'm just, you know, so grateful to be sitting next
Speaker 1: to Michael and Monnie and the three of us getting
Speaker 1: this thing going. Well, we really look forward to it.
Speaker 1: Wolf and I right, we've been doing this show for
Speaker 1: a long time. We always go to Johnny's on Fulton,
Speaker 1: which is right across the street from Saint Rocos where
Speaker 1: you were married. Sir, so many such a small world.
Speaker 1: Welcome on board, Thank you so much. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Congratulations to Jonathan Gannon. There you go. We'll come back
Speaker 1: and continue with a big red rage presented vice Santan
Speaker 1: Ford in Gilbert Cardinals with a chance to make it
Speaker 1: one possession game if they can get it in here
Speaker 1: going for two snapped the Kyler looking right now back
Speaker 1: to the middle, Now runs to the right, being chased,
Speaker 1: backing up at the twenty, looking still dancing around, pointing,
Speaker 1: still holding the ball like as street ball in the
Speaker 1: back yard. He's still got it. Runs right to the ten,
Speaker 1: pud's left to the five, and he's gonna store. Oh
Speaker 1: my goodness, Kyler, murray on a player that took about
Speaker 1: a minute somehow gets into the end zone for two points.
Speaker 1: This is the entertainment capital of the world, and I
Speaker 1: don't think I've ever seen a two point play as entertaining.
Speaker 1: Is that, I have never seen that before in my life. Hey,
Speaker 1: you know what, Kyler, sit down and do the unit
Speaker 1: right now, because that is unbelievable. Circus Circus coming to
Speaker 1: life in Vegas. I mean, just the reaction on the sideline.
Speaker 1: I'll never forget that took so long, and I think
Speaker 1: the next gen stat was he covered eighty five yards
Speaker 1: of real turf in going from A to B to
Speaker 1: C to the end zone on that two point conversion
Speaker 1: and just a reaction and how much time all the
Speaker 1: defensive players had to get off the bench should actually
Speaker 1: come to the white stripe and J. J. Watt's reaction
Speaker 1: a singular play by Kyler Murray, who was a singular
Speaker 1: talent in so many ways. It is the big Red
Speaker 1: Rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert. We are Santan Ford,
Speaker 1: Paul kelvc Ron Wolfley, just joined by the Cardinals brand
Speaker 1: new head coach Jonathan Gannon wolf I don't know, maybe
Speaker 1: a reaction or two or what stood out to you
Speaker 1: just after that conversation. I know you had a chance
Speaker 1: to talk to him one on one earlier and during
Speaker 1: your radio show. Yeah, Paul, you know just the fact
Speaker 1: he is very very specific when it comes to an
Speaker 1: offense and an offensive coordinator. He's got somebody in mind,
Speaker 1: and he's very specific as to what this offense is
Speaker 1: going to look like going forward with Kyler Murray being
Speaker 1: built around Kyler Murray. That to me, I'd love to
Speaker 1: get into more detail on that, but I don't think
Speaker 1: we're able to do that because we don't have a
Speaker 1: grease board in front of us. Well, I'll tell you
Speaker 1: what he was asked the question of the press conference
Speaker 1: as well, and here's what Jonathan Gannet had to say
Speaker 1: about a new OC. That's step one. We're starting to
Speaker 1: look at some different candidates and looking at interviewing some
Speaker 1: people here in the next four to eight hours. But
Speaker 1: I have a very specific vision of how I want
Speaker 1: to play on offense, and the person that comes in
Speaker 1: here to run the offense is going to understand that
Speaker 1: everything that we do will be structured around the quarterback
Speaker 1: position to maximize his skill set. And we have an
Speaker 1: elite one and that was this morning. By this afternoon
Speaker 1: we had national reports out there are three reported candidates
Speaker 1: who will interview for the Cardinals offensive coordinator position, Drew
Speaker 1: pets and Brown's quarterbacks coach Drew Tarrell, Washington wide receivers coach.
Speaker 1: He's thirty one years of age. Joel Thomas, Saints running
Speaker 1: backs coach. So what's interesting to me, and he reiterated
Speaker 1: in our conversation here on the Big Red Rachel PRESENTI
Speaker 1: by Santan Ford and Gilbert, is he really does have
Speaker 1: a vision for the offense. It's almost as if he's
Speaker 1: reverse engineering it. He's trying to find the OC that's
Speaker 1: going to best fit his vision. I know on the
Speaker 1: radio side, didn't he tell you Wolf that he plans
Speaker 1: to live in eleven, twelve, and thirteen personnel. Right, that's right,
Speaker 1: PAULI no fullback. As a matter of fact, kind of
Speaker 1: chuckled right now. That's exactly right, Polly. But again, um,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be very interesting to see what they do
Speaker 1: here because I love his philosophy. I love the fact
Speaker 1: that he's talking about this offense being something that's going
Speaker 1: to have to evolve. He's got a specific idea of
Speaker 1: what he's looking for and the best thing is being adaptable. Paul.
Speaker 1: I'm going to come back to this often because you've
Speaker 1: heard me say this over and over and over again.
Speaker 1: You need to be whatever you need to be in
Speaker 1: order to beat your opponent. That's what you need to be.
Speaker 1: And when I heard him say that, schemes change, you
Speaker 1: know we're gonna we're gonna mix it up on the
Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball. We're gonna be adaptable. We're
Speaker 1: not gonna be dogmatic about a scheme that we're gonna run,
Speaker 1: or an offense we're gonna run. We're gonna be what
Speaker 1: we need to be to beat somebody. And I'm paraphrasing him,
Speaker 1: but Paul, you've heard me say that for years. That
Speaker 1: is a big deal to me, of everything he said
Speaker 1: everything he said today, to me, it was the adaptable
Speaker 1: comment that got my attention because he also went on
Speaker 1: to say, you know, just in general, it's not my
Speaker 1: way or the highway. It's and he said, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna be that coach. We've always done it this way,
Speaker 1: you know, right. And he went on to say, and
Speaker 1: he's pretty point in comment that if that's your mindset
Speaker 1: in today's NFL, you will die. It's either adapt or die,
Speaker 1: because they even become predictable. If you just have that
Speaker 1: one way of doing it, it's too easy to gain
Speaker 1: plan against. So it doesn't make much sense. And I know,
Speaker 1: you know, he rankled a lot of the Eagles fans
Speaker 1: by saying he doesn't necessarily have a scheme. Well, right
Speaker 1: to your pointing, you've been saying it for years. It's
Speaker 1: a must. You have to do what is necessary to
Speaker 1: match up and defeat the opponent on a week by
Speaker 1: week basis correct. So yes, police, So again, stop and
Speaker 1: think about that. What does that mean? That means? Listen,
Speaker 1: if you if your opponent has a weak rush defense
Speaker 1: by way of example, guess what you got to be
Speaker 1: able to do. You've got to be able to run
Speaker 1: the ball and exploit the fact that they don't have
Speaker 1: a good front seven. If you're if you're facing a
Speaker 1: defense that struggles in the secondary to cover people, whether
Speaker 1: it's physically or a lot of mental errors, they blow
Speaker 1: a lot of assignments in the secondary, whatever it is,
Speaker 1: you've got to be capable of saying, Okay, this week, guys,
Speaker 1: we're going to attack the secondary because that's the weakness
Speaker 1: of this defense, and you flip it over. He was
Speaker 1: talking about from a defensive perspective as well. He was saying, hey, listen,
Speaker 1: four three, you know, three to four, we'll run the
Speaker 1: defense that we need to do. Zone. Do we need
Speaker 1: to run some press man, do we need to run
Speaker 1: that in feature that this week? Or is it going
Speaker 1: to be more zone this week? You know what that means, Paulie.
Speaker 1: You gotta go ahead, and you gotta get guys who
Speaker 1: can fit in that scheme. You gotta get guys that
Speaker 1: can do that. But it's really interesting the adaptability that
Speaker 1: comment to me told me that this guy's got a
Speaker 1: clear understanding of what it's going to take to win
Speaker 1: games in the future. And make no mistake, he feels
Speaker 1: like he has the guy at quarterback. Here's Jonathan Gannon
Speaker 1: when asked about Kyler Murray. Obviously played against Kyler this
Speaker 1: year and it was a unique game plan to put
Speaker 1: together because of his skill set. And you know, I
Speaker 1: use the term he's a problem to defend because what
Speaker 1: he can do. He's a legit problem for defenses. And
Speaker 1: you heard Gannon here on the Big Red Rage say
Speaker 1: just how much sleep defensive coordinators lose trying to game
Speaker 1: plan for Kyler Murray. You got to get Kyler back
Speaker 1: to that, back to where he was the legitimate NFL
Speaker 1: MVP candidate over the first half plus of two thousand
Speaker 1: twenty one. He's got to recapture that and then think
Speaker 1: about the other openings that were out there. Wolf. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you're Demiko Ryans in Houston, Frank Wright and Carolina,
Speaker 1: you know, if you're Shane steike In in Indianapolis, you
Speaker 1: know your quarterback's name. First name is Jack, last name
Speaker 1: is Squat. So here you go. You got Jonathan Gannon
Speaker 1: and he has an appreciation that he has a franchise
Speaker 1: quarterback in the fold. Yeah, Paul, No, it's absolutely This
Speaker 1: is one of the reasons why I wanted a defensive
Speaker 1: minded head coach. I preferred that it's just because he's
Speaker 1: got that built in separation immediately with Kyler Murray. Hey, Kyler,
Speaker 1: you know what, You're the quarterback. I'm the head coach
Speaker 1: on this team. And I don't see a defensive minded
Speaker 1: head coach sitting every day in the quarterback room, the
Speaker 1: quarterback meeting room with the offensive coordinator going over everything
Speaker 1: with Kyler Murray during the season. Now, during the offseason,
Speaker 1: of course, I see a lot of meetings like that,
Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that. But I love the fact
Speaker 1: that he can also present Kyler a defensive perspective, Paul.
Speaker 1: He can tell Kyler Murray what defenses are trying to
Speaker 1: do to him to stop him, and he's got a
Speaker 1: very unique perspective on that. And that's one of the
Speaker 1: reasons why I love a defensive minded head coach. And
Speaker 1: then finally, Paul, I love the fact that he comes
Speaker 1: from the Philadelphia Eagles. Look at their offense. Remember, Paul,
Speaker 1: there was one offense that was so similar to the
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinal's offense and a lot of the things that
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray does very very well, and it was the
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles and Jalen Hurd's offense. The similarities were there,
Speaker 1: so you know, Jonathan Gannon had a front row seat
Speaker 1: to that. He understands the power of that new age offense,
Speaker 1: the elements of it, and how to mix it maybe
Speaker 1: with the old traditional offense that really has the power
Speaker 1: to turn Kyler Murray and this offense into something special. Right,
Speaker 1: So he's a defensive head coach. Let's revisit his answer
Speaker 1: moments ago here on the Big Red Rage. We asked
Speaker 1: Jonathan an and what he expects from his relationship with Kyler. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a great relationship. You know, he's a
Speaker 1: direct reflection of me. That position is the player that's
Speaker 1: most like a coach on that field because he touches
Speaker 1: it every snap. The vision that we have for him
Speaker 1: is is to maximize his skill set and say, well
Speaker 1: that's kind of general. No, it's not. He can throw
Speaker 1: it over your head. He can beat you on the first, second,
Speaker 1: third level throwing it, and he can beat you on
Speaker 1: the first, second, third level running it. And it's his
Speaker 1: job to maximize that, get that out of Kyler on
Speaker 1: a week by week basis, to put that fear into
Speaker 1: defensive coordinators like he lived it in Week five where
Speaker 1: the Cardinals early lost to the Eagles at home, And
Speaker 1: your point about that game, Well, if how many times
Speaker 1: did we watch that Eagles offense with Jalen Hurts and say, oh,
Speaker 1: that's innovative, Hey, Kyler can do that? Yeah? Right, how
Speaker 1: many times we watched Jalen Hurts, who, by the way,
Speaker 1: had an epic offseason last year and went from a
Speaker 1: pretty good quarterback who got blown out in the playoffs
Speaker 1: to the second team All Pro quarterback in the NFL
Speaker 1: behind Patrick Mahomes, who took his team to a super Bowl.
Speaker 1: So if maybe, just maybe he had Jonathan Gannon witnessing
Speaker 1: what Jalen Hurts did last offseason, he can share some
Speaker 1: of those best practices with Kyler Murray. That's right, Paulie. No, absolutely,
Speaker 1: And you know what. The other thing, I just want
Speaker 1: to say this quickly as well. I love the fact
Speaker 1: that Jonathan Gannon referenced Nick Sirianni as well and gave
Speaker 1: him some props for also helping to develop him. I
Speaker 1: like the fact that he did that. Nick Sirianni prepared
Speaker 1: Jonathan Gannon to be a head coach, and he gave
Speaker 1: him credit for that. He said he was hard on him. Paul.
Speaker 1: I love the fact that he pointed to that said
Speaker 1: he was hard on him, and he was detail oriented,
Speaker 1: but he always had his back. These are the life
Speaker 1: experiences that shape any head coach going forward, and I
Speaker 1: like that. I was watching the Colts press conference with
Speaker 1: Shane steike In, the former Eagles offensive coordinator. He was
Speaker 1: asked for his takeaways working under Nick Sirianni and how
Speaker 1: they turned around a four win team to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: The first thing he said, and I quote Sirianni, did
Speaker 1: an unbelievable job of holding people accountable. If something isn't right,
Speaker 1: something has to be said. That's your job as a
Speaker 1: head coach. And I said, ding, ding, ding. If Jonathan Gannon,
Speaker 1: if that's his main takeaway and the Cardinals are suffering
Speaker 1: from an accountability problem, you see the fit, You see
Speaker 1: that alignment. You see why he is the current Cardinal's
Speaker 1: head coach. Back with Moore on the Big Red Rage
Speaker 1: presented by santan Ford in Gilbert back to Pasco's doll one.
Speaker 1: First down fires over the middle of the ball is
Speaker 1: tipped in the air and picked off of the thirty
Speaker 1: yard line, running left to the twenty Marco Wilson to
Speaker 1: the ten, he high stepped and then he does a
Speaker 1: flip into the ends over the cutdown, Marco Wilson with
Speaker 1: a pick six and the Cardinals take the league twenty
Speaker 1: the fourteen Dalton straight drop back throws over the middle
Speaker 1: and a one handed interception by Isaiah Simmons in midfield
Speaker 1: runs it back to the left of the burning had
Speaker 1: the thirty, had the twenty five, had the twenty head
Speaker 1: Simmons in back come back intercept, he returns for cutdowns
Speaker 1: by the Cardinals at the end of the half. Oh
Speaker 1: my goodness, want to play. Isaiah Simmons just standing there
Speaker 1: in his own room on the middle of the field,
Speaker 1: put his hand out his right hand and picked it
Speaker 1: off and then he hit the jets. There's that sub
Speaker 1: four four of Isaiah Simmons touchstyle, baby and the crazy
Speaker 1: athleticism that was on display in that big win against
Speaker 1: New Orleans on Thursday night. Two of the young pieces
Speaker 1: on that defense, Isaiah Simmons, Marco Wilson. The question is
Speaker 1: where will they play here in two twenty three. Now,
Speaker 1: Mark Wilson's a corner obviously, where he's going to rank
Speaker 1: in the pecking order, we'll see about Byron Murphy, Isaiah
Speaker 1: Simmons got his most snaps at slot corner, Ron Wolfley,
Speaker 1: Paul Kelveci. It is a big red rage presented by
Speaker 1: Santan Ford in Gilbert. What do you think, Well, if
Speaker 1: if you're a betting man, do you believe Isaiah Simmons
Speaker 1: continues to get his most looks and snaps and reps
Speaker 1: at slot corner or is there another spot on this
Speaker 1: defense for him eventually? Yeah? You know what, Polly, I
Speaker 1: think maybe the edge and I know that it's because
Speaker 1: Hassan red Eck is well. We all know that Jonathan
Speaker 1: Gannon is coming from the Eagles and Hassan Reddick. But
Speaker 1: the similarities are definitely there between Hassan and Isaiah Simmons,
Speaker 1: two very very explosive athletes. And you have to wonder
Speaker 1: if Isaiah Simmons, with all the things he can do,
Speaker 1: if you stick him at edge, how good could he
Speaker 1: possibly be? Well, Jonathan Gannon was asked about Isaiah Simmons
Speaker 1: and how he will be used all different ways. We're
Speaker 1: gonna use guys skill sets to present matchup problems. That's adaptability.
Speaker 1: When I talk about adaptability, I'm talking about our people
Speaker 1: in mind first and then who were playing. And it's
Speaker 1: a little bit of a chess match with schematics of
Speaker 1: how you need to do that, all while keeping it
Speaker 1: simple for your guys so we can go out and
Speaker 1: play fast and be violent. You just want to get
Speaker 1: to the point. This is me. Now, this is me.
Speaker 1: If a quarterback breaks the huddle and the first thing
Speaker 1: he looks for is Isaiah Simmons. Yeah, that, you know,
Speaker 1: just that X factor. I don't care where you use him.
Speaker 1: I just want him to be that game changing sort
Speaker 1: of factor out there that I really do believe he
Speaker 1: can be. He has the measurables, obviously, you just have
Speaker 1: to figure out a way to unlock it. And really
Speaker 1: curious to see, just as much as how Kyler flourishes
Speaker 1: under this new coaching staff, what is in store for
Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons. PAULI, No, that is a great point, It
Speaker 1: really is, because I want to see it. You know
Speaker 1: what I want to say. I want to see them
Speaker 1: take Isaiah Simmons and I don't care where it is.
Speaker 1: Just stick him there. Just just let them get wraps
Speaker 1: and say this is your position, and we expect you
Speaker 1: to make plays at this position. It's one of the
Speaker 1: reasons why as an edge I'm looking at the edge
Speaker 1: and thinking, hey, listen, that would be kind of cool,
Speaker 1: especially if you could get will Landerson and put him
Speaker 1: on the other side. You know what I'm saying. Anyways,
Speaker 1: you get my point. But Isaiah Simmons is a guy
Speaker 1: that needs to take another step forward. And this is
Speaker 1: one of the pluses about having a defensive minded head
Speaker 1: coach as well, because of all the young guys that
Speaker 1: I think really can take the next step in their
Speaker 1: development as a defensive player, Isaiah Simmons certainly comes to
Speaker 1: mind first and foremost. I would say Xavian Collins as well,
Speaker 1: taking yet again another step forward in his development as well.
Speaker 1: He did it all last year. It was a very
Speaker 1: incremental advance for xaban Collins, but it definitely happened last
Speaker 1: year where he was getting better incrementally, but he was
Speaker 1: getting better as a inside linebacker, and we want to
Speaker 1: see him continue with that development. Marco Wilson another young guy.
Speaker 1: They've got young guys, some good defensive player, Buddha Baker,
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? Just off the Jalen Thompson. They've
Speaker 1: got guys that are great playmakers. And Jonathan Gannon is
Speaker 1: going to have a little something to work with here,
Speaker 1: and there's something that he has in store for every player,
Speaker 1: and it's called accountability. He was asked about that player
Speaker 1: accountability is simply this. You got to define what winning
Speaker 1: behavior is and hold people to that standard. It's as
Speaker 1: easy as that. It's your daily actions with what you're
Speaker 1: doing on a daily basis to improve yourself as a
Speaker 1: player and as a team. And accountability is just not
Speaker 1: a negative, it's a positive too. So when people do
Speaker 1: the right thing, that shows that's winning behavior. And you're
Speaker 1: going to see that our guys, we're gonna love him
Speaker 1: up as hard as we're going to be on our guys.
Speaker 1: We're gonna love him up even more. And he said,
Speaker 1: the ultimate accountability is when you feel that responsibility your teammate,
Speaker 1: and it's that relationship in the locker room and in
Speaker 1: the huddle that holds you accountable. And you've talked about
Speaker 1: that at length. Yeah, Poullie, it's so true right there. Accountability.
Speaker 1: I love the fact he took the positive angle on
Speaker 1: that as well, because everyone thinks that's what it is.
Speaker 1: You just walk up and say, dude, you're killing us
Speaker 1: what are you doing here? It's not just that, it's
Speaker 1: also reinforcing positive behavior and good behavior. It's reinforcing that
Speaker 1: and I love the fact he's got a clear delineation
Speaker 1: on that. By the way, well, Jonathan Gannon, former Philadelphia
Speaker 1: Eagles defensive coordinator last two years, called the Cardinals defense.
Speaker 1: Not sure on that yet. That's going to depend a
Speaker 1: little bit of a makeup of the staff. You know,
Speaker 1: I got a really good blueprint in Philly of how
Speaker 1: that went with the head coach and how he adapted
Speaker 1: to make our team better. So I'll figure that out
Speaker 1: as we come. And if you're using Nick Sirianni as
Speaker 1: a blueprint, he came over from Indie where he called plays,
Speaker 1: but he delegated that the Shane Steichen, who was now
Speaker 1: the head coach of the Colts. So although he definitely
Speaker 1: had the ability, he outsourced that and he just became
Speaker 1: the CEO and head coach and did not call plays.
Speaker 1: So I could see it going either way with Jonathan Gannon, Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I'm with you on that one. PAULI. Yeah, I will
Speaker 1: just throw this in here. He was very complimentary when
Speaker 1: I said, Mike Zimmer, what do you think of Mike Zimmer.
Speaker 1: He didn't confirm anything. He did not do that. He
Speaker 1: didn't confirm anything, but he was very complimentary. Paul Well,
Speaker 1: and it sort of makes sense if you're going to
Speaker 1: bring in a former head coach a lot of experience
Speaker 1: and a first time head coach has that ability to
Speaker 1: lean on him, Mike Zimmer not unlike a Cliff Kings
Speaker 1: with Vance Joseph, who, by the way, reportedly is interviewing
Speaker 1: with the Eagles now for their defensive coordinator spot and
Speaker 1: the Broncos for their DC gig Vans Joseph, So that
Speaker 1: might dictate exactly where the Cardinals are on defense right
Speaker 1: because Vans Joseph is under contract next year and it's
Speaker 1: still a possibility he could be on the Cardinal sideline again. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Paula, can I just say from a personal perspective,
Speaker 1: and I know you feel exactly the same way. I
Speaker 1: hope he gets it. I hope he gets that because
Speaker 1: Vans Joseph deserves good things. Man, He's a good coach,
Speaker 1: and I think at some point in time that's a
Speaker 1: guy who will be a head coach again. Totally agree.
Speaker 1: You know. My one final takeaway was when Jonathan Gannon
Speaker 1: said he has already disagreed with Manias and fort Yeah,
Speaker 1: they disagreed during the interview a couple of times. You
Speaker 1: heard him during our interview here, And so I like that.
Speaker 1: I like the fact that, you know what, you have
Speaker 1: a GM and a head coach. You're already comfortable enough.
Speaker 1: They don't feel like they have to. You know that
Speaker 1: they can actually tell each other their true opinion on
Speaker 1: something and veted out, hash it out, and usually that's
Speaker 1: for the betterment of the organization. It is Paul discourse.
Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with that. There are so many philosophies,
Speaker 1: so many beliefs in regard to the game of football.
Speaker 1: You're never gonna be one hundred percent aligned anywhere. So
Speaker 1: I'm with you on that one. I like it all right. Well,
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Speaker 1: Congratulations and welcome to the Cardinals new head coach joining
Speaker 1: us here. We got a nice window in his personality,
Speaker 1: some of his thoughts and plans, and now he plans
Speaker 1: to go about his job once again. Three offensive coordinator
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