1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: Strap on the boots and scrape up the knuckles. Oh 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 1: and ahead, he got jacked. This is the Big Red 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: Rain presented by Santanford in Gilbert. Mary's gonna score touchdown 4 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: Slam to the ground by Buddha Baker Like a torpedo. 5 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: He came flying into the backfield. The rage is brought 6 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: to you by satan Ford in Gilbert. Are you Santanford 7 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: State Farm? Talk to an agent today at eight hundred 8 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 1: State Farm, And by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts visit Acy Cardinals 9 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: dot Com, Slash Podcasts, The Reds, Rising Guard, Temperaturizing Vision, flurring, 10 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: rage taking over. Here's Paul Calvci. I'm ready. I'm one 11 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: hundred percent ready. I'm telling you i'mready. And Ron Wolflee, 12 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: it doesn't get any better than that boy, unleash the 13 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: far So. After meeting, interviewing, and spending a little time 14 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: with a brand new head coach, Jonathan Gannon, you know 15 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: what I did next? Wolf? What was that? BOLLI? I 16 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 1: immediately went out to the practice field here at Cardinals HQ, 17 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 1: and I hit the blocking slat Oh stop, and then 18 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: I set up the tackling dummies like ran through the 19 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: tackling dummies. I gave a couple of them the forearms shiver. 20 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:27,479 Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. I am ready to come 21 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: off the ball on this very special edition head Coach 22 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: edition of the Big Red Rage, presented by Santan Ford 23 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 1: and Gilbert. We are Santan Ford, and I might need 24 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: to pace myself here in the offseason, but you know what, 25 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: that energy today was infectious and boom. I was ready 26 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: to go. You're ready to hit him high, hit him 27 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: pie Pipe. I'll give you the effort, Ron wolf I'll 28 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: be the try hard guy. If nothing else, you can 29 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: bring the analysis here that was already me. I was 30 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: the try hard guy. Folly, you can't have that one, 31 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: I know. Okay, So here we go, Ron Wolfley, there, 32 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: Paul kelvc here and in front of the media, meeting 33 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: the media and the red seat Jonathan Gannon, and we 34 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: will hear from the head coach a little bit later. Yes, 35 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 1: we'll go one on one a little bit later and 36 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 1: we'll do that meet and greet. But first let's get 37 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: a few impressions. First impressions based on his opening press comments, 38 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: Ron wolf Lee, what says you, man, PAULI, where do 39 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: you begin on this one right here. First of all, 40 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 1: I like his demeanor. I like the fact that he 41 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: wasn't way up here. I like that. I know that 42 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: he's a high energy guy, but I like the fact 43 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: that he was more even keel for the most part 44 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: coming into this. You know what, he's an excitable guy. 45 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: I love the fact he said it's also very humbling, 46 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: and I think that was one of the reasons why 47 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: it was very even keel throughout the entire press conference, 48 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 1: to me, was because he knew what was going on. 49 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 1: He knew the moment was huge. Even though he's a 50 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: high energy guy and he's an excitable guy. The humility 51 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: that he displayed realizing what was going on at this 52 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: press conference and the fact that he's forty years old 53 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: and here he is a head coach and the National 54 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: Football League guy. I loved the context of this, Paul, 55 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:19,679 Speaker 1: and I love the quiet confidence that he conveyed when 56 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,119 Speaker 1: he said, we're going to win games. Don't get it twisted. 57 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: We're going to win games. And he let that hang, 58 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: you know, Like you said, he looked like he'd been 59 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: there and done that before, even though he's a first 60 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: time head coach and we're gonna ask him about that. 61 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: Just you know, was he nervous. I mean a lot 62 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: of those first time head coaches meeting the meeting, he 63 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: certainly didn't look it. And the more he spoke and 64 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: the more he answered questions, the more I understood, Okay, 65 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: this indeed is a good fit. This is what they 66 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: were looking for. You understand how many boxes he checked. 67 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: In fact, the owner, Michael Bidwell, he spoke a little 68 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: bit about that about how everything aligned. I think he 69 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: came in with a vision and plan that the vision 70 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: aligned with where we want to be about getting back 71 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: to the top of the NFC West and competing in 72 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: January and competing to get to the Super Bowl and 73 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: win it. So that's number one with a vision, his 74 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: plan he outlined, it's the view that he had of 75 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: our elite quarterback and getting him back to being the 76 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: playmaker that he is. Think of some of the big 77 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: boxes that Jonathan Gannon checks, his philosophy and approach with 78 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, especially working the last two years with the 79 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: jail and Hurts. The accountability issue that Michael Bidwell identified 80 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 1: going into the offseason maybe the driving reason why significant 81 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:38,119 Speaker 1: changes were made in the organization at GM and head coach. 82 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: You then look at the energy and leadership he brought today, right, 83 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: and then the final thing is the more he spoke, 84 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 1: you just come to realize. Okay, he was an integral 85 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: part of taking a four win team two years ago 86 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl. Yeah. So if anybody's been there 87 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: and done that, look what he did. You know Nick 88 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: Sirianni and that staff with the Philadelphia Eagles. Yeah, you know, 89 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 1: I thought it was cool that Michael actually reference that 90 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: the plan and the vision that he thought Coach Gannon had. 91 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: And for me, when I think about that, the plan 92 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 1: and the vision Paul, I can hear him saying, we 93 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: need to be adaptable, right, So that's what we need. 94 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: We need adaptable, we need violent, we need explosive, we 95 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 1: need smart. I love the fact that he had this 96 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 1: four point vision, so to speak. That he emphasized that 97 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: to me really got me jacked up because that says 98 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: what the plan is and what the vision may be 99 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: going forward. Because Baali can have all the schemes in 100 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: the world, of course, but you got to populated with 101 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: human beings. And you know what when he said that, 102 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 1: and the room was loaded with Cardinals players, they're a 103 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 1: bunch in the front row, including Kyler Murray. There were 104 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: a bunch in the back. Byron Murphy was next to 105 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 1: me in the back because we were doing live coverage 106 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: before and after so Boom. I'm trying to get a 107 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: view around some of these big players and almost all 108 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: the players added a couple of fist pumps in there 109 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: as he put in, you know, as he said the 110 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 1: word violent, explosive, and smart. You know, I think maybe 111 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: inside manti Astinfort was cheering as well. In fact, he 112 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: was asked the Cardinals due GM, why Jonathan Gannon. Ultimately, 113 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 1: our process led us to Jonathan. Jonathan's energy when he 114 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: entered our room. It was NonStop from the beginning. His 115 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 1: reputation as a leader, his ability to connect to players, 116 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: to staff, to the rest of his coaches, his ability 117 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: to work with a personnel department and provide a vision 118 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 1: for the type of players that we're going to go 119 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: out and seek. It was apparent that Jonathan shared a 120 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: lot of the same values that I value and that 121 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: Michael values. In fact, Michael Bidwell said at one point 122 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 1: that he was a little subdued Jonathan Gannon based on 123 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: what he was like during the interview. I was like Okay. 124 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: You know, man, what's the energy level going to be 125 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 1: like when they get out there on the grass. So 126 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: you know, you tell me, Wolf, I mean, to what 127 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 1: degree do you believe team takes on the personality of 128 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 1: its head coach? And how significant is that? Yeah, Paully, 129 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: it does. There's no doubt he's an aggressive guy. He 130 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: really is. I can tell just by some of the 131 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: words that he uses, the fact that he actually used violent, 132 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: He used that right there. We all know. It's within 133 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: the context and the paradigm of playing the game of 134 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: football once you step in between those white lines. But 135 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: that is a strong word to use, Paul, even inside 136 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: that paradigm, that is a strong word to use in it. 137 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: To me, it's like saying I love you, okay, it's 138 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: it just makes me feel good because that is the 139 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: game of football. When you step in between those lines. 140 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: You've got to step in between those lines with some 141 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: bad intentions, and it's okay, because it's all right to 142 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: do that inside those lines. And then you step outside 143 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: those lines and you love people and respect him and 144 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: treat him better than yourself. Paul, You've heard me say 145 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: this for years. It's just the truth. It's one of 146 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: the things that I love the most about the game. 147 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: And man, just listening to Jonathan Gannon, he taps into that, 148 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: and that tells me they're gonna go out Paulie and 149 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: they're gonna look for players that fit that mode, no doubt. 150 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: In fact, he was on NFL Network and they asked 151 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: him about his offensive philosophy because and we're gonna get 152 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: into this a little bit later. You know, yes, he's 153 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: a defensive coordinated the last couple of years, but he 154 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: has a very definitive sense of what he wants on 155 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball. And in response to 156 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: one of the questions, he said, and I quote, we're 157 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: gonna throw it over people's heads and run it down 158 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: people's throats. Wait, that's a great line there. So that's 159 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: to your point. That just further illustrates your point. Well, look, 160 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: we've all seen the video of him in his truck 161 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: pulling up to the Eagles facility before the NFC Championship 162 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: game and then rolling down his window, right, and he 163 00:08:57,920 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: was egged on by a lot of the fans like 164 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: Jared and he yells out, we're gonna bleeping gut these 165 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 1: guys to me, and we're gonna ask him about that 166 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,199 Speaker 1: when we have him on here momentarily on the big 167 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,959 Speaker 1: red ray Sean I thinking, but to me, him rolling 168 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 1: down his window, that's really a window into his personality. Honestly, 169 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:19,319 Speaker 1: I think that's who he is. That's aw ultra aggressive 170 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: he is as a coach and a competitor. What are 171 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 1: you saying, bully that words matter? And you know that 172 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: they do. And again, it's one thing to say it. 173 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: Now you got to go out and you got to 174 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 1: back it up. You got to mean it, because many 175 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: times you can actually see a guy and you can 176 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 1: get a little mesmerized by the guy's talent. You can bully. 177 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that, there's no denying that. And 178 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: a lot of times you forget that. The game of 179 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: football is not played just by athletes. It's not played 180 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: by people that have a ton of talent. It's also 181 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: a combination of toughness that you need as well. There's 182 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: got to be some standard in each player of toughness, 183 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: some level of toughness that you need to bring into 184 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: that locker room that can go out there and then 185 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 1: use that talent inside that paradigm that incredibly physical, aggressive, 186 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 1: tough paradigm known as an NFL football game. In order 187 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 1: to tap into all that talent, you got to have 188 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: a monicum of toughness. And that's something they're going to 189 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: be looking at and trying to balance in every guide ball, 190 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: every guy Paul they bring into that locker room, they're 191 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: gonna have to balance that. And you know what, as 192 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: a head coach with a scouting background as well, he's 193 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: got an eye for that sort of stuff. In fact, 194 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: he was asked Jonathan Gannon on the one characteristic each 195 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: member of the team will have. I know Monny and 196 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: Michael have heard me say this multiple times. Everybody that 197 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 1: we bring in here or that is here or that 198 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: will be a cardinal, will have elite football character because 199 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 1: you will not hit your ceiling if you don't have that. 200 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is is you have 201 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: to be team first, and that's how we're going to 202 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: build this team. He said. It goes back to when 203 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: he was a kid, his coaches, his dad. It's not 204 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: about you, it's about the team. That was another answer 205 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: he gave. That's just part of the DNA of how 206 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: he goes about running a football team, and it goes 207 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: back into the whole accountability thing that Michael Bidwell, Manias 208 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: and fort we're looking for. Because look, leadership takes different forms. 209 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:24,439 Speaker 1: We know that, and his style of leadership I think 210 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: is going to be not only a modern style where 211 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: it connects with the players, but there's gonna be some 212 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: old school aspects of it as well, where there's gonna 213 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: be a lot of tough love and some significant expectations 214 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: that it's not just about you, and a lot of 215 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: guys are gonna be asked to do things and maybe 216 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:42,839 Speaker 1: aren't going to help them all that much in their 217 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: contract negotiations, but it'll be better for the team, no doubt, Paulie, 218 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 1: And that got me excited. I really did. What are 219 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: the possibilities that are out there? Right though? First of all, 220 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 1: it's every guy. This is what he made it a 221 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: point of emphasis to say every guy that we bring 222 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: in here is he's got to have elite football character. Pollie, 223 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: That to me, I love that kind of terminology. You 224 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: have a culture, you have a way that we do 225 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: things around here, and every guy that we consider, we're 226 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: going to drag him through that culture and see if 227 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: he actually makes it to the other side before we 228 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: bring him in here. I love that mentality and I 229 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:27,559 Speaker 1: hope they stick to that with the elite football character. Well, 230 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: on the other side, here on the big Red Rage, 231 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 1: we're gonna meet and greet Jonathan Gannon. Next we'll ask 232 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: him about accountability, his playing for Kyler, right, his vision 233 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: for the offense. You know, we'll ask him about the 234 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: video of him rolling down his window right shouting out. 235 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 1: Eagles fans. By the way, join the season ticket priority list. 236 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 1: Check out the opponents because you'll get your seats and 237 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: the ability to select your seats before the general public. 238 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: We're talking that Giants, Cowboys, Ravens, Falcons, and Bengals all 239 00:12:54,400 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: on easy Cardinals dot com slash priority List. I am 240 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: extremely excited today to be in front of you and 241 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: I have the honor of introducing Jonathan Gannon as the 242 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: next head coach of the Arizona Cardinals. Just know this, 243 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: We're gonna be adaptable, we're gonna be violent, we're gonna 244 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 1: be explosive, and we're gonna be smart and all three 245 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: phases go into that. And we will maximize the talents 246 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 1: of the players that we have, and that's how we're 247 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: gonna win games. And don't get it twisted. We're gonna 248 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: win games, Adaptable, violent, explosive, and smart. The vision, the blueprint, 249 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 1: the DNA of the Arizona Cardinals going forward. And when 250 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: those words were uttered, I was standing in the press 251 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: conference room next to a bunch of players, and every 252 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: one of them nodded, a couple of them fist pumped. 253 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: And now we have the man who said those words, 254 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: who now leads the Arizona Cardinals onto the field of 255 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 1: effective immediately. The eleventh head coach in Arizona Cardinals history, 256 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: Jonathan Gannon, joins us on the Big Red Rage presented 257 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: by Santan Ford in Gilbert Coach. Welcome and congratulations. Thank you, Paul. 258 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Excited to be here and excited to 259 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,199 Speaker 1: get ready to work. Were you nervous at all? I 260 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: got to ask you one question. I've seen a lot 261 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: of press conferences, a lot of first time head coaches, right, 262 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: you didn't appear to be nervous whatsoever, even with all 263 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: the cameras in the packed auditorious Yeah. No, I you know, 264 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: the last two years in Philly, that's a tough media market, 265 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: so I kind of got baptized by fire. But no, 266 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: I think you just answer questions what's your what's in 267 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: your head, and what's in your heart, and if you're honest, 268 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about what you're saying. And 269 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: so that's how I kind of do it. But it's 270 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: an exciting time obviously to be in that but I've 271 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: been in that setting before, obviously not as a head coach, 272 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: but you know, it's part of the job, all right. 273 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: So tell me about the emotion of the moment because 274 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: we can talk about what's straight ahead and we'll talk 275 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: about that all offsea. But you're now one of thirty 276 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: two after fifteen years in the NFL. What was it 277 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: like to be offered the job. Yeah, it's it's it's exciting, 278 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: but it's humbling, you know, because there's a lot of 279 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: good coaches that helped me get to this seat, and 280 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: uh maybe that never had gotten an opportunity to do 281 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: now what I'm doing, but you know, you just you're 282 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: very it's a it's a grateful moment because of all 283 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: the people that helped me get here, and I'm so 284 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: grateful for working for all those guys and learning from 285 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: all those people. But uh, you know, really excited, really grateful. 286 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: It's really humbling. What do you think landed you the job? 287 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: What are your strengths? I would say, you know, just 288 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: sitting down with Michael and Mannie just talking about the 289 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: vision of how I want to build a team and play, 290 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: and I think my strengths would be is I care 291 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: about the players. And I've done a good job in 292 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: my career so far of getting to maximize the players 293 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: and you know, and get them to hit their ceilings. 294 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: But you know, ultimately it's servant leadership. You got to 295 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: you got to care about the players as people first 296 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: then as then as players, and you want to see 297 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: them do well, you know. And I think the other 298 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: thing that they really liked, and I think that it 299 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: helped our defense and Philly was to explain to them 300 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: and tell them the reasons why that the team goes 301 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: above themselves. It's not about you, It's about the team. 302 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: And you know, when they understand how they fit in 303 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: and their role that they fit in to the defense 304 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: or to the team, they can accept that and really 305 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: be very productive and be a star within their role. 306 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: And that's what you're looking for. However, many guys you 307 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: got up on game day, are we are you a 308 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: starring your role, and your role can change from week 309 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: to week. It can go up, it can go down. 310 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: But as long as guys recognize that, then they're on 311 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: board with what you're asking them to do. There's high 312 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: accountability and ultimately you got to go out and play 313 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: good football. Jonathan Gannon is our guest on The Big 314 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: Red Rage. According brand new head coach, when the season 315 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: ended and changes, the roommate Michael Bidwell cited accountability and 316 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 1: need to improve. He cited that in hiring you, that's 317 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 1: job number one. How do you define accountability? Especially from 318 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: a player's perspective, winning behavior? So what I mean by 319 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 1: that is there's there's winning behavior. Will show them exactly 320 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 1: what that looks like and hold them to that standard. 321 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 1: And ultimately that's what your culture is. It's your daily 322 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: actions on a day to day basis of how are 323 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: you improving your process? How are you getting better as 324 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: a player? And the accountability And you heard me say 325 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: that in the presser was you know, I think people 326 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: sometimes cringe because they think that's a negative word. It's 327 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: it can be, but it can also be in more 328 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: so used in a positive way. There's positive accountability. Hey, 329 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: this is what we're talking about that's winning behavior right there. 330 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 1: That's what we need to keep doing. Good job, And 331 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: so the players will they'll know that for us, but 332 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 1: we're we won't shy away from conflict. We'll show them 333 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: this is what winning behavior looks like and this is 334 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: what it doesn't and we need to improve these things 335 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 1: or we'll lose. And you're coming off an operation where 336 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: you went from a four win team to the super 337 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 1: Bowl in two years? What did you learn? What did 338 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: you learn? What can you apply immediately from what you 339 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: were just part of accomplishing in Philly? Yeah, process driven, 340 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 1: being very enthused about what you're doing, and high accountability 341 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: and high communication and everybody. When everybody's on the same 342 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: page and they understand their role, how they fit into 343 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: the team, then it allows you to do your job 344 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: at a high level. And so that's what I would say. 345 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: That's why I say about Nick. You know, that's what 346 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,479 Speaker 1: he did a phenomenal job about. And then you know, 347 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: the backburner to that is is being adaptable. You know, 348 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: we started going out one way and we changed because 349 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: it wasn't working. Then we got it going a little 350 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 1: bit and then it wasn't working and we changed or 351 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: then we doubled down on some things that we know 352 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 1: to be true too when it was working, or maybe 353 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: if it wasn't working, Hey, we know, sooner or later 354 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: the results will come. We gotta keep doubling down on 355 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: our process. So just the clear vision that Nick had 356 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 1: for everybody in that organization how to win games. What's 357 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: your vision for Kyler Murray? Michael Bidwill cited that was 358 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: a big factor in you're hiring maximizing Kyler, getting him 359 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: back to the playmaker we've seen him be. What sort 360 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 1: of relationship do you envision, especially as a defensive head. Come, yeah, 361 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 1: We're gonna have a great relationship. You know, he's he's 362 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: a direct reflection of me, you know, and he's the 363 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,679 Speaker 1: player that position, is the player that's most like a 364 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 1: coach on that field because he touches it every snap. 365 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: But you know, the vision that we have for him 366 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 1: is is to maximize his skill set. And say, well 367 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: that's kind of general. No, it's not. He can throw 368 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: it over your head, he can beat you on first, second, 369 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: third level throwing it, and he can beat you on 370 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: the first, second, third level running it. And when you 371 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: have a type of player like that, well that's what 372 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,719 Speaker 1: we're gonna do. We're gonna When you have to defend 373 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: a guy like that, it puts the defense in conflict 374 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,199 Speaker 1: and you can't do everything that you want to do 375 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: as a defense because you know that he can beat 376 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 1: you different ways. So with him understanding, I'll work hard 377 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: with making sure that he understands from a defensive perspective, Hey, dude, 378 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: you're not gonna get this because they can't run those 379 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 1: calls because of this, or you're gonna get a lot 380 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: of this because of who you are. So what's our 381 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,239 Speaker 1: plan for that? Because I know they're gonna spy you. 382 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 1: I know they're gonna three man rush, two man rush, 383 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: four man rush, and they're gonna spy you. So that 384 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 1: stresses out the coverage. So that's make sure we're doing 385 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 1: a good job with that. A lot of different things 386 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 1: that we'll talk about as we get going, but he'll 387 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: have a very very clear understanding of how he needs 388 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: to operate running the offense and what defenses are going 389 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: to try to do to stop him, because that is best. 390 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: He keeps up defensive coordinators all night. Yes he does. 391 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: He was one of the hardest guys to prepare for 392 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: this year. I mean That's why I say he's a 393 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: legit problem. And although you're looking for an offensive coordinator, 394 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: you have a vision as to how you want to 395 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: play offense. I no doubt, yeah, and I'll and I 396 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: will definitely, I'm gonna talk to a lot of people. 397 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,199 Speaker 1: I got some good guys in mind, but you know 398 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 1: it goes into being adaptable. I don't want a system guy, 399 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: I really don't. I want a guy that's been in 400 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 1: multiple systems because I wanted to be able to sure 401 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 1: that I want to be sure that we are maximizing 402 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 1: Kyler and the other players on our offense, not just Kyler. 403 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: You know James Connor, Rondell, Hollywood, Zach, all those players 404 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: who you know, how DJ Humphreys. We don't need to 405 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: slide to this guy can block anyone in the world 406 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: one on one. Let's slide the other way. Whatever we're doing, 407 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: you got to put together the plan that maximizes everybody, 408 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: not just Kyler. So I wanted to be the Arizona 409 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: Cardinals system, not this guy's system from nineteen eighty that 410 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: was passed down for forty years. We're not gonna play 411 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: offense like that. Jonathan Gannon is our guests you're wrapping 412 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: it up on the big red rage when you roll 413 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 1: down your window and shouted out the Eagles fans before 414 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 1: the NFC Championship, what you wanted to do to the Niners? 415 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 1: To what degree? Was that a window into your personality? 416 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,880 Speaker 1: A little bit? A little bit. I normally keep my 417 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: feelings close to the vest um, but I was feeling 418 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: it that morning and there was guys, you know, beeping 419 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: at me. Let's go, JG, Let's go, JG, Let's go, 420 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: and uh rolled down my window and that's what I 421 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 1: was feeling. So that's what I said. So I'll always 422 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 1: be myself. I'll always be honest. But you know, I 423 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 1: have a I have a way in my brain that 424 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 1: how I want to play, and uh, you know, not 425 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: like that, but uh, you know, it's a it's a contact, 426 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: physical sport. And that's why I use the term violent. 427 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 1: We're going to be a violent team. And you've already 428 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 1: been honest with Monti Austin Fort. Oh yeah, oh yeah. 429 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if Michael loved it, but Minie loved it. 430 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: You guys went back and forth on the roster. Oh 431 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 1: oh yeah, oh oh yeah. We went back and forth 432 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 1: on the roster because you're scouting background. Correct, you feel equipped? Right? 433 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah it was. It was a really 434 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 1: good conversation. Well, Monnie has called that the lifeblood of 435 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 1: any organization. You have to have that organizational alignment between 436 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: them and the head coach. How much did you research 437 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: the Cardinals? They obviously researched you. What about the other 438 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: way around? Yeah, a lot. And I had to do 439 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: it quick, you know, so, and I actually did it 440 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: as the interview was going on and as we paused too, 441 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 1: so uh, you know, it was all good stuff. And 442 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 1: I'm just, you know, so grateful to be sitting next 443 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 1: to Michael and Monnie and the three of us getting 444 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: this thing going. Well, we really look forward to it. 445 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: Wolf and I right, we've been doing this show for 446 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 1: a long time. We always go to Johnny's on Fulton, 447 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 1: which is right across the street from Saint Rocos where 448 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: you were married. Sir, so many such a small world. 449 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 1: Welcome on board, Thank you so much. I appreciate it. 450 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: Congratulations to Jonathan Gannon. There you go. We'll come back 451 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: and continue with a big red rage presented vice Santan 452 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 1: Ford in Gilbert Cardinals with a chance to make it 453 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: one possession game if they can get it in here 454 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 1: going for two snapped the Kyler looking right now back 455 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: to the middle, Now runs to the right, being chased, 456 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 1: backing up at the twenty, looking still dancing around, pointing, 457 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 1: still holding the ball like as street ball in the 458 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: back yard. He's still got it. Runs right to the ten, 459 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: pud's left to the five, and he's gonna store. Oh 460 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: my goodness, Kyler, murray on a player that took about 461 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: a minute somehow gets into the end zone for two points. 462 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,199 Speaker 1: This is the entertainment capital of the world, and I 463 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,439 Speaker 1: don't think I've ever seen a two point play as entertaining. 464 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 1: Is that, I have never seen that before in my life. Hey, 465 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 1: you know what, Kyler, sit down and do the unit 466 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: right now, because that is unbelievable. Circus Circus coming to 467 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 1: life in Vegas. I mean, just the reaction on the sideline. 468 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:01,120 Speaker 1: I'll never forget that took so long, and I think 469 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: the next gen stat was he covered eighty five yards 470 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 1: of real turf in going from A to B to 471 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 1: C to the end zone on that two point conversion 472 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: and just a reaction and how much time all the 473 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: defensive players had to get off the bench should actually 474 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: come to the white stripe and J. J. Watt's reaction 475 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: a singular play by Kyler Murray, who was a singular 476 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: talent in so many ways. It is the big Red 477 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: Rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert. We are Santan Ford, 478 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: Paul kelvc Ron Wolfley, just joined by the Cardinals brand 479 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: new head coach Jonathan Gannon wolf I don't know, maybe 480 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: a reaction or two or what stood out to you 481 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: just after that conversation. I know you had a chance 482 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 1: to talk to him one on one earlier and during 483 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 1: your radio show. Yeah, Paul, you know just the fact 484 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,360 Speaker 1: he is very very specific when it comes to an 485 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 1: offense and an offensive coordinator. He's got somebody in mind, 486 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 1: and he's very specific as to what this offense is 487 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: going to look like going forward with Kyler Murray being 488 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,919 Speaker 1: built around Kyler Murray. That to me, I'd love to 489 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 1: get into more detail on that, but I don't think 490 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 1: we're able to do that because we don't have a 491 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: grease board in front of us. Well, I'll tell you 492 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 1: what he was asked the question of the press conference 493 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 1: as well, and here's what Jonathan Gannet had to say 494 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 1: about a new OC. That's step one. We're starting to 495 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 1: look at some different candidates and looking at interviewing some 496 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: people here in the next four to eight hours. But 497 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 1: I have a very specific vision of how I want 498 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 1: to play on offense, and the person that comes in 499 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 1: here to run the offense is going to understand that 500 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 1: everything that we do will be structured around the quarterback 501 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 1: position to maximize his skill set. And we have an 502 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: elite one and that was this morning. By this afternoon 503 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 1: we had national reports out there are three reported candidates 504 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: who will interview for the Cardinals offensive coordinator position, Drew 505 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: pets and Brown's quarterbacks coach Drew Tarrell, Washington wide receivers coach. 506 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 1: He's thirty one years of age. Joel Thomas, Saints running 507 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: backs coach. So what's interesting to me, and he reiterated 508 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 1: in our conversation here on the Big Red Rachel PRESENTI 509 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 1: by Santan Ford and Gilbert, is he really does have 510 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: a vision for the offense. It's almost as if he's 511 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: reverse engineering it. He's trying to find the OC that's 512 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: going to best fit his vision. I know on the 513 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: radio side, didn't he tell you Wolf that he plans 514 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: to live in eleven, twelve, and thirteen personnel. Right, that's right, 515 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: PAULI no fullback. As a matter of fact, kind of 516 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: chuckled right now. That's exactly right, Polly. But again, um, 517 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 1: it's gonna be very interesting to see what they do 518 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: here because I love his philosophy. I love the fact 519 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: that he's talking about this offense being something that's going 520 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: to have to evolve. He's got a specific idea of 521 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 1: what he's looking for and the best thing is being adaptable. Paul. 522 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: I'm going to come back to this often because you've 523 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: heard me say this over and over and over again. 524 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,080 Speaker 1: You need to be whatever you need to be in 525 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 1: order to beat your opponent. That's what you need to be. 526 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 1: And when I heard him say that, schemes change, you 527 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 1: know we're gonna we're gonna mix it up on the 528 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball. We're gonna be adaptable. We're 529 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: not gonna be dogmatic about a scheme that we're gonna run, 530 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 1: or an offense we're gonna run. We're gonna be what 531 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: we need to be to beat somebody. And I'm paraphrasing him, 532 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 1: but Paul, you've heard me say that for years. That 533 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: is a big deal to me, of everything he said 534 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: everything he said today, to me, it was the adaptable 535 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: comment that got my attention because he also went on 536 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 1: to say, you know, just in general, it's not my 537 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: way or the highway. It's and he said, I'm not 538 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: gonna be that coach. We've always done it this way, 539 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: you know, right. And he went on to say, and 540 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: he's pretty point in comment that if that's your mindset 541 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: in today's NFL, you will die. It's either adapt or die, 542 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 1: because they even become predictable. If you just have that 543 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 1: one way of doing it, it's too easy to gain 544 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: plan against. So it doesn't make much sense. And I know, 545 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: you know, he rankled a lot of the Eagles fans 546 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: by saying he doesn't necessarily have a scheme. Well, right 547 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: to your pointing, you've been saying it for years. It's 548 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: a must. You have to do what is necessary to 549 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,959 Speaker 1: match up and defeat the opponent on a week by 550 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: week basis correct. So yes, police, So again, stop and 551 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: think about that. What does that mean? That means? Listen, 552 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 1: if you if your opponent has a weak rush defense 553 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: by way of example, guess what you got to be 554 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: able to do. You've got to be able to run 555 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 1: the ball and exploit the fact that they don't have 556 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: a good front seven. If you're if you're facing a 557 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: defense that struggles in the secondary to cover people, whether 558 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: it's physically or a lot of mental errors, they blow 559 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: a lot of assignments in the secondary, whatever it is, 560 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: you've got to be capable of saying, Okay, this week, guys, 561 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: we're going to attack the secondary because that's the weakness 562 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: of this defense, and you flip it over. He was 563 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 1: talking about from a defensive perspective as well. He was saying, hey, listen, 564 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: four three, you know, three to four, we'll run the 565 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: defense that we need to do. Zone. Do we need 566 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: to run some press man, do we need to run 567 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: that in feature that this week? Or is it going 568 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: to be more zone this week? You know what that means, Paulie. 569 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: You gotta go ahead, and you gotta get guys who 570 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: can fit in that scheme. You gotta get guys that 571 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: can do that. But it's really interesting the adaptability that 572 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: comment to me told me that this guy's got a 573 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 1: clear understanding of what it's going to take to win 574 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 1: games in the future. And make no mistake, he feels 575 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: like he has the guy at quarterback. Here's Jonathan Gannon 576 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: when asked about Kyler Murray. Obviously played against Kyler this 577 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: year and it was a unique game plan to put 578 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 1: together because of his skill set. And you know, I 579 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 1: use the term he's a problem to defend because what 580 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: he can do. He's a legit problem for defenses. And 581 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: you heard Gannon here on the Big Red Rage say 582 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: just how much sleep defensive coordinators lose trying to game 583 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 1: plan for Kyler Murray. You got to get Kyler back 584 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: to that, back to where he was the legitimate NFL 585 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: MVP candidate over the first half plus of two thousand 586 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,959 Speaker 1: twenty one. He's got to recapture that and then think 587 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: about the other openings that were out there. Wolf. I mean, 588 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 1: if you're Demiko Ryans in Houston, Frank Wright and Carolina, 589 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: you know, if you're Shane steike In in Indianapolis, you 590 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: know your quarterback's name. First name is Jack, last name 591 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 1: is Squat. So here you go. You got Jonathan Gannon 592 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: and he has an appreciation that he has a franchise 593 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: quarterback in the fold. Yeah, Paul, No, it's absolutely This 594 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: is one of the reasons why I wanted a defensive 595 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: minded head coach. I preferred that it's just because he's 596 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: got that built in separation immediately with Kyler Murray. Hey, Kyler, 597 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 1: you know what, You're the quarterback. I'm the head coach 598 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: on this team. And I don't see a defensive minded 599 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: head coach sitting every day in the quarterback room, the 600 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: quarterback meeting room with the offensive coordinator going over everything 601 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: with Kyler Murray during the season. Now, during the offseason, 602 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 1: of course, I see a lot of meetings like that, 603 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that. But I love the fact 604 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: that he can also present Kyler a defensive perspective, Paul. 605 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: He can tell Kyler Murray what defenses are trying to 606 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 1: do to him to stop him, and he's got a 607 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 1: very unique perspective on that. And that's one of the 608 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: reasons why I love a defensive minded head coach. And 609 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: then finally, Paul, I love the fact that he comes 610 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: from the Philadelphia Eagles. Look at their offense. Remember, Paul, 611 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: there was one offense that was so similar to the 612 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinal's offense and a lot of the things that 613 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray does very very well, and it was the 614 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles and Jalen Hurd's offense. The similarities were there, 615 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 1: so you know, Jonathan Gannon had a front row seat 616 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: to that. He understands the power of that new age offense, 617 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: the elements of it, and how to mix it maybe 618 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: with the old traditional offense that really has the power 619 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 1: to turn Kyler Murray and this offense into something special. Right, 620 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 1: So he's a defensive head coach. Let's revisit his answer 621 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: moments ago here on the Big Red Rage. We asked 622 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: Jonathan an and what he expects from his relationship with Kyler. Yeah, 623 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna have a great relationship. You know, he's a 624 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 1: direct reflection of me. That position is the player that's 625 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 1: most like a coach on that field because he touches 626 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: it every snap. The vision that we have for him 627 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 1: is is to maximize his skill set and say, well 628 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 1: that's kind of general. No, it's not. He can throw 629 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 1: it over your head. He can beat you on the first, second, 630 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: third level throwing it, and he can beat you on 631 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 1: the first, second, third level running it. And it's his 632 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 1: job to maximize that, get that out of Kyler on 633 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 1: a week by week basis, to put that fear into 634 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: defensive coordinators like he lived it in Week five where 635 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 1: the Cardinals early lost to the Eagles at home, And 636 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 1: your point about that game, Well, if how many times 637 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: did we watch that Eagles offense with Jalen Hurts and say, oh, 638 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 1: that's innovative, Hey, Kyler can do that? Yeah? Right, how 639 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,280 Speaker 1: many times we watched Jalen Hurts, who, by the way, 640 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 1: had an epic offseason last year and went from a 641 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: pretty good quarterback who got blown out in the playoffs 642 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 1: to the second team All Pro quarterback in the NFL 643 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 1: behind Patrick Mahomes, who took his team to a super Bowl. 644 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 1: So if maybe, just maybe he had Jonathan Gannon witnessing 645 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 1: what Jalen Hurts did last offseason, he can share some 646 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:35,839 Speaker 1: of those best practices with Kyler Murray. That's right, Paulie. No, absolutely, 647 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:37,399 Speaker 1: And you know what. The other thing, I just want 648 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 1: to say this quickly as well. I love the fact 649 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:44,760 Speaker 1: that Jonathan Gannon referenced Nick Sirianni as well and gave 650 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 1: him some props for also helping to develop him. I 651 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 1: like the fact that he did that. Nick Sirianni prepared 652 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 1: Jonathan Gannon to be a head coach, and he gave 653 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: him credit for that. He said he was hard on him. Paul. 654 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 1: I love the fact that he pointed to that said 655 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 1: he was hard on him, and he was detail oriented, 656 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 1: but he always had his back. These are the life 657 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 1: experiences that shape any head coach going forward, and I 658 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 1: like that. I was watching the Colts press conference with 659 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 1: Shane steike In, the former Eagles offensive coordinator. He was 660 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 1: asked for his takeaways working under Nick Sirianni and how 661 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 1: they turned around a four win team to the Super Bowl. 662 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 1: The first thing he said, and I quote Sirianni, did 663 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: an unbelievable job of holding people accountable. If something isn't right, 664 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 1: something has to be said. That's your job as a 665 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 1: head coach. And I said, ding, ding, ding. If Jonathan Gannon, 666 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,320 Speaker 1: if that's his main takeaway and the Cardinals are suffering 667 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 1: from an accountability problem, you see the fit, You see 668 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 1: that alignment. You see why he is the current Cardinal's 669 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 1: head coach. Back with Moore on the Big Red Rage 670 00:35:50,719 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 1: presented by santan Ford in Gilbert back to Pasco's doll one. 671 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 1: First down fires over the middle of the ball is 672 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 1: tipped in the air and picked off of the thirty 673 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 1: yard line, running left to the twenty Marco Wilson to 674 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 1: the ten, he high stepped and then he does a 675 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 1: flip into the ends over the cutdown, Marco Wilson with 676 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:17,320 Speaker 1: a pick six and the Cardinals take the league twenty 677 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 1: the fourteen Dalton straight drop back throws over the middle 678 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 1: and a one handed interception by Isaiah Simmons in midfield 679 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:26,719 Speaker 1: runs it back to the left of the burning had 680 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 1: the thirty, had the twenty five, had the twenty head 681 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 1: Simmons in back come back intercept, he returns for cutdowns 682 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: by the Cardinals at the end of the half. Oh 683 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 1: my goodness, want to play. Isaiah Simmons just standing there 684 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,280 Speaker 1: in his own room on the middle of the field, 685 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 1: put his hand out his right hand and picked it 686 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: off and then he hit the jets. There's that sub 687 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:56,719 Speaker 1: four four of Isaiah Simmons touchstyle, baby and the crazy 688 00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 1: athleticism that was on display in that big win against 689 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,760 Speaker 1: New Orleans on Thursday night. Two of the young pieces 690 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 1: on that defense, Isaiah Simmons, Marco Wilson. The question is 691 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 1: where will they play here in two twenty three. Now, 692 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 1: Mark Wilson's a corner obviously, where he's going to rank 693 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 1: in the pecking order, we'll see about Byron Murphy, Isaiah 694 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 1: Simmons got his most snaps at slot corner, Ron Wolfley, 695 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,319 Speaker 1: Paul Kelveci. It is a big red rage presented by 696 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 1: Santan Ford in Gilbert. What do you think, Well, if 697 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 1: if you're a betting man, do you believe Isaiah Simmons 698 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,840 Speaker 1: continues to get his most looks and snaps and reps 699 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 1: at slot corner or is there another spot on this 700 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 1: defense for him eventually? Yeah? You know what, Polly, I 701 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 1: think maybe the edge and I know that it's because 702 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 1: Hassan red Eck is well. We all know that Jonathan 703 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 1: Gannon is coming from the Eagles and Hassan Reddick. But 704 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 1: the similarities are definitely there between Hassan and Isaiah Simmons, 705 00:37:55,120 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 1: two very very explosive athletes. And you have to wonder 706 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 1: if Isaiah Simmons, with all the things he can do, 707 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,239 Speaker 1: if you stick him at edge, how good could he 708 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 1: possibly be? Well, Jonathan Gannon was asked about Isaiah Simmons 709 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 1: and how he will be used all different ways. We're 710 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 1: gonna use guys skill sets to present matchup problems. That's adaptability. 711 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 1: When I talk about adaptability, I'm talking about our people 712 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 1: in mind first and then who were playing. And it's 713 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 1: a little bit of a chess match with schematics of 714 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,319 Speaker 1: how you need to do that, all while keeping it 715 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 1: simple for your guys so we can go out and 716 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,719 Speaker 1: play fast and be violent. You just want to get 717 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 1: to the point. This is me. Now, this is me. 718 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 1: If a quarterback breaks the huddle and the first thing 719 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 1: he looks for is Isaiah Simmons. Yeah, that, you know, 720 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,440 Speaker 1: just that X factor. I don't care where you use him. 721 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,719 Speaker 1: I just want him to be that game changing sort 722 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 1: of factor out there that I really do believe he 723 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,239 Speaker 1: can be. He has the measurables, obviously, you just have 724 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 1: to figure out a way to unlock it. And really 725 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 1: curious to see, just as much as how Kyler flourishes 726 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 1: under this new coaching staff, what is in store for 727 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,239 Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons. PAULI, No, that is a great point, It 728 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,440 Speaker 1: really is, because I want to see it. You know 729 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:15,880 Speaker 1: what I want to say. I want to see them 730 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 1: take Isaiah Simmons and I don't care where it is. 731 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 1: Just stick him there. Just just let them get wraps 732 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,840 Speaker 1: and say this is your position, and we expect you 733 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 1: to make plays at this position. It's one of the 734 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 1: reasons why as an edge I'm looking at the edge 735 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 1: and thinking, hey, listen, that would be kind of cool, 736 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 1: especially if you could get will Landerson and put him 737 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 1: on the other side. You know what I'm saying. Anyways, 738 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,279 Speaker 1: you get my point. But Isaiah Simmons is a guy 739 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:47,319 Speaker 1: that needs to take another step forward. And this is 740 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,279 Speaker 1: one of the pluses about having a defensive minded head 741 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,840 Speaker 1: coach as well, because of all the young guys that 742 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,359 Speaker 1: I think really can take the next step in their 743 00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 1: development as a defensive player, Isaiah Simmons certainly comes to 744 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 1: mind first and foremost. I would say Xavian Collins as well, 745 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:09,879 Speaker 1: taking yet again another step forward in his development as well. 746 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,239 Speaker 1: He did it all last year. It was a very 747 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:16,839 Speaker 1: incremental advance for xaban Collins, but it definitely happened last 748 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,239 Speaker 1: year where he was getting better incrementally, but he was 749 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 1: getting better as a inside linebacker, and we want to 750 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 1: see him continue with that development. Marco Wilson another young guy. 751 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,760 Speaker 1: They've got young guys, some good defensive player, Buddha Baker, 752 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? Just off the Jalen Thompson. They've 753 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 1: got guys that are great playmakers. And Jonathan Gannon is 754 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,239 Speaker 1: going to have a little something to work with here, 755 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 1: and there's something that he has in store for every player, 756 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,759 Speaker 1: and it's called accountability. He was asked about that player 757 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 1: accountability is simply this. You got to define what winning 758 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,319 Speaker 1: behavior is and hold people to that standard. It's as 759 00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 1: easy as that. It's your daily actions with what you're 760 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 1: doing on a daily basis to improve yourself as a 761 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 1: player and as a team. And accountability is just not 762 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,920 Speaker 1: a negative, it's a positive too. So when people do 763 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 1: the right thing, that shows that's winning behavior. And you're 764 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 1: going to see that our guys, we're gonna love him 765 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,280 Speaker 1: up as hard as we're going to be on our guys. 766 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,439 Speaker 1: We're gonna love him up even more. And he said, 767 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:22,760 Speaker 1: the ultimate accountability is when you feel that responsibility your teammate, 768 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,799 Speaker 1: and it's that relationship in the locker room and in 769 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 1: the huddle that holds you accountable. And you've talked about 770 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:33,440 Speaker 1: that at length. Yeah, Poullie, it's so true right there. Accountability. 771 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 1: I love the fact he took the positive angle on 772 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,279 Speaker 1: that as well, because everyone thinks that's what it is. 773 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,319 Speaker 1: You just walk up and say, dude, you're killing us 774 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,759 Speaker 1: what are you doing here? It's not just that, it's 775 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:48,360 Speaker 1: also reinforcing positive behavior and good behavior. It's reinforcing that 776 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,719 Speaker 1: and I love the fact he's got a clear delineation 777 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 1: on that. By the way, well, Jonathan Gannon, former Philadelphia 778 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 1: Eagles defensive coordinator last two years, called the Cardinals defense. 779 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,040 Speaker 1: Not sure on that yet. That's going to depend a 780 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,279 Speaker 1: little bit of a makeup of the staff. You know, 781 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 1: I got a really good blueprint in Philly of how 782 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 1: that went with the head coach and how he adapted 783 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:13,359 Speaker 1: to make our team better. So I'll figure that out 784 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 1: as we come. And if you're using Nick Sirianni as 785 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,560 Speaker 1: a blueprint, he came over from Indie where he called plays, 786 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 1: but he delegated that the Shane Steichen, who was now 787 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 1: the head coach of the Colts. So although he definitely 788 00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,960 Speaker 1: had the ability, he outsourced that and he just became 789 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,360 Speaker 1: the CEO and head coach and did not call plays. 790 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 1: So I could see it going either way with Jonathan Gannon, Yeah, no, 791 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 1: I'm with you on that one. PAULI. Yeah, I will 792 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,319 Speaker 1: just throw this in here. He was very complimentary when 793 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,360 Speaker 1: I said, Mike Zimmer, what do you think of Mike Zimmer. 794 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 1: He didn't confirm anything. He did not do that. He 795 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,080 Speaker 1: didn't confirm anything, but he was very complimentary. Paul Well, 796 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:51,680 Speaker 1: and it sort of makes sense if you're going to 797 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:55,160 Speaker 1: bring in a former head coach a lot of experience 798 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,520 Speaker 1: and a first time head coach has that ability to 799 00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,879 Speaker 1: lean on him, Mike Zimmer not unlike a Cliff Kings 800 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,279 Speaker 1: with Vance Joseph, who, by the way, reportedly is interviewing 801 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,359 Speaker 1: with the Eagles now for their defensive coordinator spot and 802 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:10,439 Speaker 1: the Broncos for their DC gig Vans Joseph, So that 803 00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 1: might dictate exactly where the Cardinals are on defense right 804 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,960 Speaker 1: because Vans Joseph is under contract next year and it's 805 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,319 Speaker 1: still a possibility he could be on the Cardinal sideline again. Yeah, 806 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,920 Speaker 1: and Paula, can I just say from a personal perspective, 807 00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 1: and I know you feel exactly the same way. I 808 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,960 Speaker 1: hope he gets it. I hope he gets that because 809 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,880 Speaker 1: Vans Joseph deserves good things. Man, He's a good coach, 810 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,400 Speaker 1: and I think at some point in time that's a 811 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 1: guy who will be a head coach again. Totally agree. 812 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 1: You know. My one final takeaway was when Jonathan Gannon 813 00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 1: said he has already disagreed with Manias and fort Yeah, 814 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,320 Speaker 1: they disagreed during the interview a couple of times. You 815 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,359 Speaker 1: heard him during our interview here, And so I like that. 816 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,000 Speaker 1: I like the fact that, you know what, you have 817 00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,359 Speaker 1: a GM and a head coach. You're already comfortable enough. 818 00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 1: They don't feel like they have to. You know that 819 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,920 Speaker 1: they can actually tell each other their true opinion on 820 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:06,160 Speaker 1: something and veted out, hash it out, and usually that's 821 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,440 Speaker 1: for the betterment of the organization. It is Paul discourse. 822 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with that. There are so many philosophies, 823 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:16,280 Speaker 1: so many beliefs in regard to the game of football. 824 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,600 Speaker 1: You're never gonna be one hundred percent aligned anywhere. So 825 00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:23,160 Speaker 1: I'm with you on that one. I like it all right. Well, 826 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,560 Speaker 1: a reminder, the Pashpod is up there, and if you 827 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,879 Speaker 1: haven't listened yet and you need a good laugh here 828 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 1: if you're looking for something you're jones in after the 829 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,200 Speaker 1: super Bowl and we got a long way to our 830 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:37,440 Speaker 1: next NFL game, It's the Pashpod with Frank Caliendo, Available 831 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,200 Speaker 1: now via your preferred podcast provider. 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