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Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 1: What's up? Everybody?

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Speaker 2: Welcome to move the sticks DJ.

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Speaker 1: Bucky back with you.

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Speaker 2: Buck? What is going on?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 2: I see the teal on. I know you are not

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Speaker 1: I am not in LA.

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Speaker 3: I'm down in Jacksonville checking out OTA's doing a little research,

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Speaker 3: Got a new defensive coaching staff, and so so I

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Speaker 2: On, check out the rookies and stuff. All right, I

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Speaker 2: want to get back to that in just a second.

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Speaker 2: Do you want to everybody know we're going to have

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Speaker 2: a fun discussion Bucky as we get through the draft.

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Speaker 2: It does a cool thing where he goes and kind

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Speaker 2: do some rankings. So Buck, you have kind of the

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Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of.

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Speaker 2: People who are listening to this that don't necessarily know

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Speaker 3: Okay, So, Dji, when we talk about OTA's organized team activities,

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Speaker 2: Again, you mentioned they are no pads. That's key distinction

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Speaker 2: So so from your time go back to when you're

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Speaker 3: All right, DJ, So you know, each week, all right,

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Speaker 3: Diggs has been a guy who is I think six

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Speaker 3: RA eight one thousand year seasons, a guy who continues

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Speaker 3: to dominate on the PNVER even if he is on

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Speaker 3: the down side of what has been a really, really

444
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Speaker 3: strong career. He and Nico Collins are problematic because at

445
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Speaker 3: some point you have to decide who is the real

446
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Speaker 3: number one receiver.

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Speaker 1: If we say that Stefan.

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Speaker 3: Diggs is number one, well now you have to deal

449
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Speaker 3: with Nico Collins, who goes for twelve hundred yards last

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Speaker 3: year without a big time compliment. On the other side,

451
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Speaker 3: after tank Dale gets hurt, tank Dale is one of

452
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Speaker 3: the more explosive and third wide receivers that you will find,

453
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Speaker 3: and prior to his injury, he was lighting it up

454
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Speaker 3: for the Texans and Schultz. You're talking about a pass

455
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Speaker 3: catching who can run rouse and do it from a

456
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Speaker 3: variety of different spots and locations. And you have CJ.

457
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Speaker 3: Stroud who finds a way to hit the ball to

458
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Speaker 3: these guys and look really stretched the defense with the

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Speaker 3: way that he is.

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Speaker 1: Able to kind of contribute.

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Speaker 3: This is a really good wide receiver corps and I

462
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Speaker 3: think this is one of the more surprising units in

463
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Speaker 3: the National Football League. No one expected this team to

464
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Speaker 3: be what they are now, and a large part of

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Speaker 3: it is because the.

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Speaker 1: Way the wide receiver route has really evolved.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, to me, Tank Dell's kind of the secret sauce there,

468
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Speaker 2: Like if you keep him healthy and run him out

469
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Speaker 2: there for seventeen games with that the juice that he

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Speaker 2: has and now throwing in digs in there to go

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Speaker 2: along with Nico Collins, Like, now, okay that that to me,

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Speaker 2: he's the one. If I'm thinking of who's gonna, you know,

473
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Speaker 2: strike the most fear looking at from a defensive standpoint,

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Speaker 2: like that would be the one. Like he changes the

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Speaker 2: math a little bit in terms of how you cover

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Speaker 2: these guys and then you're going to get matchups that

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Speaker 2: you that you like to favor you. So I'm a

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Speaker 2: big fan there of Houston at three or let's get

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Speaker 2: to the top two.

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Speaker 1: Who goes?

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Speaker 3: So this is tough because of the debate between the

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Speaker 3: Philadelphia Eagles.

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Speaker 1: And the Mia defens is one that we can go

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Speaker 1: round and round and round.

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Speaker 3: But I settled with the Philadelphia Eagles being too AJ

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Speaker 3: Brown and DeVonta Smith sharing the marquet as code number

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Speaker 3: one receivers.

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Speaker 1: You then have Dallas god it over the middle of

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Speaker 1: the field.

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Speaker 3: And the reason why I think this duo is really

491
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Speaker 3: tough because Devonte Smith is a legitimate number one. He

492
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Speaker 3: could be a number one receiver if you didn't have

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Speaker 3: AJ Brown in the building. When AJ Brown has been

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Speaker 3: out or covered, Devonte Smith has stepped up in a

495
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Speaker 3: variety of ways. We saw him do it in Alabama.

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Speaker 3: He continues to be that guy in Philadelphia.

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Speaker 1: MIENI.

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Speaker 3: He can be whatever you need him to be when

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Speaker 3: you need him to do that. And AJ Brown, I

500
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Speaker 3: think the surprise has been the way that he jumped

501
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Speaker 3: from Tennessee to Philly, and he's been a dominant player

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Speaker 3: the last two years. Dominant on the perimeter. You can't

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Speaker 3: guard him. He creates separation, he's physical, he comes down

504
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Speaker 3: with the fifty to fifty balls all the time, and

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Speaker 3: he has just been a great, I would say, lead

506
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Speaker 3: receiver in that unit. Even though I could say that

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Speaker 3: DeVante Smith could do it and then Dallas guard it

508
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Speaker 3: went healthy and available. He just tears you up down

509
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Speaker 3: the middle of the field. He is a seam runner.

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Speaker 3: He catch the ball well. He is someone that can

511
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Speaker 3: get open as a chain mover underneath that and when

512
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Speaker 3: you're dealing with that tree, it's just really really hard

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Speaker 3: to do. Also, because of the way this team is constructed,

514
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Speaker 3: run heavy team with the athletic dynamic quarterback, they give

515
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Speaker 3: you a lot of fits, and they give you so

516
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Speaker 3: many fits that it's hard to make decisions to double

517
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Speaker 3: and when you do double to get on the other

518
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Speaker 3: side also can win just a really solid and well

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Speaker 3: constructed wide receiver view.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you've got run after catch, and then you

521
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Speaker 2: also have the opportunity there with you know, we're not

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Speaker 2: talking running backs, but now you throw Saquon Barkley, you know,

523
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Speaker 2: when you want to expand that defense with all these

524
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Speaker 2: pass catching weapons and now you can check the ball

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Speaker 2: down to him or screen him. That adds to the

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Speaker 2: mix as well. All right, Number one, buck, So Number.

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Speaker 1: One is the Miami Dolphins.

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Speaker 3: And the reason why DJ like when you think about them,

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Speaker 3: of all the teams that you have to face, his

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Speaker 3: defense coordinator, they scare you the most on the perimeter.

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Speaker 1: They have a legitimate track team.

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Speaker 3: And I'm gonna say this, Jail and Waddle and Tyreek

533
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Speaker 3: Hill just scares the Bejesus out of everybody just because

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Speaker 3: of how fast they are. Last year, DJ, this group

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Speaker 3: combined for eighty seven big plays on the perimeter that

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Speaker 3: passes over twenty plus yards eighty seven. Both of these

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Speaker 3: guys have gone over one thousand yards in each of

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Speaker 3: the past two years. Tyreek Hill, like, I think back

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Speaker 3: to back seventeen hundred yard seasons with Jaylen Wall going

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Speaker 3: over eleven hundred yards in those seasons.

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Speaker 1: I mean touchdowns. They can give it to you on

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Speaker 1: catch and run plays. They can just run past you.

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Speaker 3: They can blow the top off the defense in OBJ,

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Speaker 3: And I know people believe that Obij is living off

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Speaker 3: of I would say the brand name and what he

546
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Speaker 3: did very early in his career. But you saw in opportunities,

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Speaker 3: limited opportunities when he had with the with the Rams race,

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Speaker 3: when he hit the Ram before that, right, you are

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Speaker 3: now saying, OBJ now gets to play against the third

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Speaker 3: corner each.

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Speaker 1: And every week.

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Speaker 3: There's no way that you can help the third corner.

553
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Speaker 3: The third corner has to stand alone and hold up

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Speaker 3: to me. DJ, I think that's good for six touchdowns.

555
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Speaker 3: Seven touchdowns on the season because you're just not gonna

556
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Speaker 3: be able to contain all those guys on the outside.

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Speaker 3: And I just look, I know they have John news

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Speaker 3: Smith and you know, then a team that really utilizes

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Speaker 3: the tied end like they could, but man, just the

560
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Speaker 3: weapons on the outside with to a throwing the ball

561
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Speaker 3: and getting it out of his hands, I just don't

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Speaker 3: know how you stop this offense when they get it

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Speaker 3: going with that wide receiver corp.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, to me, this is the perfect marriage of a

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Speaker 2: quarterback skill set and the and the group that they have,

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Speaker 2: you know, and and all the speed. I just think

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Speaker 2: they've got the perfect guy to do it. And that's

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Speaker 2: why when people ask are they going to pay to it, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they're gonna pay to it. I mean they've they've built

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Speaker 2: this whole team around him. I mean, oh yeah, this

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Speaker 2: tast break offense. Yes, And oh well he compared to

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Speaker 2: this and you don't compare him to other quarterbacks. I

573
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Speaker 2: compare him to who's going to operate what we've built here?

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Speaker 2: The best two us perfect for how they've built this thing.

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Speaker 2: So that's why it all fits. It all makes sense.

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Speaker 2: I give you know, Chris career. I feel like he

577
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Speaker 2: gets a lot of griefs as a general manager. But

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Speaker 2: I look he's it makes sense to me when I

579
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Speaker 2: look at how they've constructed it. They've totally built this

580
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Speaker 2: entire team around the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: They've built it around the quarterback.

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Speaker 3: And I think the best way, I think you coined

583
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Speaker 3: the phrase that Tua is a blackjack dealer the casino

584
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Speaker 3: in Vegas in terms of the way the ball just

585
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Speaker 3: comes out of his hands.

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Speaker 1: He's just daling.

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Speaker 3: And what you do with a player who is so

588
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Speaker 3: good at the rpo game or the quick rhythm stuff,

589
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Speaker 3: you give him a track team with specialists that are

590
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Speaker 3: terrific with the ball in their hands. DJ all those

591
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Speaker 3: guys we talked about it going back to their college days.

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Speaker 3: All those guys were returners. OBJ one of the best

593
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Speaker 3: point returners that you would find in the college game.

594
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Speaker 3: Tyreek Hill outstanding returning when he first got to Kansas

595
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Speaker 3: City Jays, and Waddell had that in his background. You

596
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Speaker 3: see those guys on these catch and run plays where

597
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Speaker 3: they're criss crossing all over the field. You talked about

598
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Speaker 3: two of being able to throw a five yard pass

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Speaker 3: and get a twenty yard game because the wide receivers

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Speaker 3: can do the work this is really the four point

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Speaker 3: one relay. He's just responsible for giving those guys the

602
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Speaker 3: baton and let him getting around the track. Terrific offensive

603
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Speaker 3: personnel on the perimeter and look with it. Without Obj,

604
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Speaker 3: they would have been there. But Obj to me is

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Speaker 3: the cherry atop the Sunday. He's not the OBJ that

606
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 3: dominated the league when he first came in, but he

607
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 3: still is a really good, high end number three receiver.

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Speaker 3: I think we'll see some of that playmaking that is

609
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Speaker 3: always intrigued us about him. I think you you talked

610
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Speaker 3: about how he was with the Rams. That's the version

611
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Speaker 3: that I expect to show up. The OBJ that played

612
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Speaker 3: with the Rams. That was a nice compliment to Cooper

613
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Speaker 3: Cup and some of those other receivers.

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Speaker 2: Nope, I think it's a good fit. I think it's

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Speaker 2: a very smart uh signing low low. You know there's

616
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Speaker 2: low downside. You're not paying him that much with excellent

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Speaker 2: upside here, I think he'll fit in well with that group.

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Speaker 1: So uh, I love it.

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Speaker 2: There you go, there's the top five pass catching groups.

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Speaker 2: As we head towards the season, we'll look at some

621
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Speaker 2: of these other position groups as we go along the

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Speaker 2: buck I know you'll be all over that, and I'll

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Speaker 2: I'll give it another couple of weeks. I think once

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Speaker 2: we get into June, I'll start peeking at some of

625
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Speaker 2: the college kids for nixt year so we can have

626
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Speaker 2: some way early discussions.

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Speaker 3: I can't wait. I can't wait. I can't wait for

628
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Speaker 3: you to have that discussion, us to have that door.

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Speaker 1: I think I might go shut door.

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Speaker 2: It's the first assignment there here.

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Speaker 1: I looked at him. I looked at him. Did you

632
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Speaker 1: already do it? I did a little look. I can't

633
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Speaker 1: wait for us to have that discussion.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be an interesting it's gonna be an interesting

635
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Speaker 3: quarterback discussion for next year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, save that, Save that and then now and then

637
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Speaker 2: we'll have to compare notes here once we get there.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's gonna do it for us today, A nice,

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Speaker 2: short and quick episode here. Hope you guys have enjoyed it.

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Speaker 2: Buck travels safe on the way home, and we'll catch

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Speaker 2: you up with catch up with everybody back here on

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Speaker 2: Move to Stick