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Speaker 1: First of all, we appreciate you coming on Man, World Champ.

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Speaker 1: You know what world appreciate.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me man. Man.

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Speaker 3: We watched your whole career Man, and Man love what

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Speaker 3: you do. Man.

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Speaker 1: You always was highly talked about it as a good teammate,

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Speaker 1: Man and always been faying how you dunked that.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate you coming on the show. But thank you, Man.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: When you first got to the league and you first

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Speaker 1: start again playing time, who was the first person to

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Speaker 1: bust yours?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: All right, so coming into the league extremely aggressive. I'm

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Speaker 2: trying to find my way on the course. So I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 2: if I block shots and rebound like that's what the energy?

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Speaker 2: They go keep me out there. So I mean, I

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Speaker 2: don't know if I can swear on this show, but

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Speaker 2: like you swear you want, motherfucker go like this, I'm jumping.

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Speaker 2: You know that at nineteen Chris Bosh like you know,

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Speaker 2: he had elbow, pump, fake, you know, he had all

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Speaker 2: Toronto at the time, and Mike Dunley be likej go

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Speaker 2: out there and get him. I'm like, cool, BN, let's go.

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Speaker 2: You know, I go out there. He hid it on

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Speaker 2: the elbow. He just looking the sky.

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Speaker 3: I jumped.

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Speaker 2: By the time I get down, he already laid the

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Speaker 2: ball in, you know. So the second time, I gotta

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Speaker 2: stay down. He pumped fake again. I stay down, pump

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Speaker 2: fak again. I jumped foul, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: So then Marcus cam Be was like, man, you gotta

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Speaker 2: work on your time in and study these guys moves.

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Speaker 2: But I was like, I was, man, I'm so excited

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Speaker 2: to be out here, like I need to be aggressive.

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Speaker 2: So Chris Boss definitely, you know, welcome me to the league. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Man, he was like crazy like that. Toronto rappedter Chris Balls.

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Speaker 1: They forgot about him.

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Speaker 3: Yo yo yo.

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Speaker 4: We live on location in Los Angeles, California. We came

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Speaker 4: through a hurriquake, black, am I right? You know hey,

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Speaker 4: when we come through a hurriquake, man, it gotta be

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Speaker 4: something special on the other end of that thing.

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Speaker 2: Today we got NBA World.

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Speaker 4: Chap Denver Nuggets own Deondre Jordan's be a Clipper though,

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Speaker 4: playing that clip a hard, but he gotta be a

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Speaker 4: nugget for life to now.

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Speaker 3: He got that ring for you feel me?

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Speaker 1: Houston, Texas tell us about Houston who put the ball.

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Speaker 3: In your hand? Man?

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Speaker 2: Man. So I grew up my mom she had four boys,

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Speaker 2: were all two years apart. I'm the oldest. So sports

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Speaker 2: was kind of something that kept us out of trouble,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And it was kind of

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Speaker 2: hard not to play basketball. We did every football, basketball,

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Speaker 2: whatever could we do two on two? Yeah, So you

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Speaker 2: know a lot of those things ended up in some fighting,

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Speaker 2: some swinging, you know what I mean. So I think

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Speaker 2: basketball is something that I was really really good at

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Speaker 2: and I love to play, and I think from then

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Speaker 2: like all right, I'm gonna work out before school and

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Speaker 3: Coming to working out yourself or somebody.

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Speaker 2: I started working out with somebody, you know, one of

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Speaker 2: my high school au coaches. My first team I played,

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Speaker 2: I was just playing at the park rec league stuff

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Speaker 2: was you when you first dunk eighth grade? Going to

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Speaker 2: ninth grade that summer I was six? Told you you would.

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Speaker 3: The volleyball.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, real, and then you know, you go up

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Speaker 2: like this kind of like you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 2: That's how I was dunking at the beginning, and then

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Speaker 2: like that summer I started dunking the ball crazy. And

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Speaker 2: So from that point on, it was just kind of like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: spert from my sophomore year and I'm sorry, from going

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Speaker 2: at me like what's going on? And I'm you know,

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Speaker 2: you don't really feel yourself growing, but that's something. My

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Speaker 1: You ain't won a good class, like it's I think

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Speaker 3: When did you realize you was nice amongst them?

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Speaker 2: When I started playing in AU tournaments. I think the

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Speaker 2: first AU tournament I played in where I got some

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Speaker 2: notoriety was Kingwood Classic in Houston, and I had I

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Speaker 3: Some of the guys used to see. Yeah, that was nice.

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Speaker 3: That was ahead of it. I was.

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Speaker 2: I was always looking at Greg Golden, you know what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, because I'm like, man, this dude out here

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Speaker 2: And at that time, I was sixteen, so I'm like, damn,

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Speaker 2: some development to do. But my class man, it was

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Speaker 2: like Derrick Rose, Mike Beasley, OJ Mayo, Kevin Love. You know,

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Speaker 3: In your class.

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Speaker 2: Anytime any air you tournament you went to, whether it

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Speaker 1: But when you start, when you start seeing your name

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 2: My year, I was the second ranked big man behind

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Speaker 2: I had to do something, do something, you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean. Like, you know that's back when like he

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Speaker 2: if he do this, or you know he hit a

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Speaker 2: I gotta dunk something crazy. I gotta block a couple

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Speaker 2: looking at DJ. You know what I'm saying. But that

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Speaker 2: competition in high school really fewed a lot of us.

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Speaker 2: I feel like to be like, it was friendly, but

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Speaker 2: where that ego kind of come from, chasing that dream.

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Speaker 3: A little bit. You didn't make McDonald's.

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Speaker 2: I did not.

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Speaker 1: When you didn't make McDonald's, and I know you everybody

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Speaker 1: wanted to be McDonald's.

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Speaker 3: How did that motivate you?

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Speaker 2: I was hot.

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Speaker 1: I was hot because you was one of the top players.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, how he didn't make you? Know,

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Speaker 1: like before the announcement, like, well you did you?

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Speaker 2: They sent me a letter. They sent me a letter

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Speaker 2: and was like, you know, some bullshit, you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, thanks for your participation and blah

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Speaker 2: was like, damn. I mean when I was in high school,

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Speaker 2: it was I was obviously in my senior year, I'm like, damn,

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Speaker 2: Like all right, cool, I'm a hold on to this.

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Speaker 2: And I had it in my car at the time,

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Speaker 2: and I was like, cool, I'm gonna work out.

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Speaker 3: Cool.

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Speaker 2: I read that ship, folded it up, went to the gym.

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Speaker 2: So but I ended up playing in the Jordan game

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Speaker 2: and then yeah, the rebound, like it was like I

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Speaker 2: forget the name of it, but it was a Chicago

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Speaker 2: that was That one was cool, but I was like,

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Speaker 2: you know what, I didn't really need that ship, but

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Speaker 2: it was it was motivation to kind of like keep working, like,

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Speaker 2: hey man, they don't think you're good enough, so you

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Speaker 2: got to keep working.

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Speaker 3: We will take anything motivation.

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Speaker 1: And I know you was one of the high ranked

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Speaker 1: players that didn't didn't make the McDonald game, but you

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Speaker 1: was in every other game right after that.

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Speaker 3: How was it beating Mike?

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Speaker 2: You know what? It was something that you kind of

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Speaker 2: as a kid, you kind of like, damn, Like was

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Speaker 2: he going, yeah, man, you think about it, man, I

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Speaker 2: think m J Bulls space Jam. You know, you're thinking

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Speaker 2: about all that stuff when you meet this dude, and

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Speaker 2: you kind of just I'm gonna say this. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: say this, you know. But then when you get up there,

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Speaker 2: it's like, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: You know, I've seen people missing Jordan.

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Speaker 2: Bring up and say mister George. Yeah man, so it's

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Speaker 2: kind of like telling this. I'm telling them what I'm

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Speaker 2: about to do. You go up there, you just be like, okay,

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Speaker 2: all right. Next morning you're just kind of like, oh shit,

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Speaker 2: I missed my opportunity, you know what I'm saying. So

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Speaker 2: that's kind of how that situation went quick.

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Speaker 1: It could have been any other school that could have

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Speaker 1: got you before Texas, and now uh, I'm almost got you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like I damn, they're committed to UT. Like in

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Speaker 4: Did you like go to college like, man, all right,

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 2: I think when people tell you like, hey, this, you

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Speaker 2: They still cheated us though for sure he know that,

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Speaker 2: But after that, I was like, Okay, I'm gonna go

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Speaker 1: Hell yeah, because that's the league. Yeah, that's a league

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Speaker 1: you know to decide just like yeah, I'm just gonna and.

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Speaker 2: Where and like where were you? Like where were my object?

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Speaker 2: My projection was late lottery, late first. So that's what

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Speaker 2: it scary. For the drive, I was like, and you

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Speaker 2: That them ain't guarantee. No, where were you? Where did

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Speaker 2: So so tell me this experience. Yeah, that shit was insane.

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Speaker 2: there boom, and you know, this time was like you

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Speaker 2: hey have you there at this pick we're taking you?

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Speaker 2: So they're like, okay, cool, we're gonna take you. I'm

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Speaker 2: like all right, cool bet. So I'm like, okay, you

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Speaker 2: So I tell my mom, I'm like, yo, I don't

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Speaker 3: I get him my heart till about that.

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Speaker 2: But I remember Chris of Chin, who I'm sure y'all know, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I was I'm out if they if I get drafted,

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Speaker 2: You gotta stay. And at this point, I'm you know,

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Speaker 2: So then five picks later, at thirty five, the Clippers

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Speaker 2: you know LA. I ain't never been in La before

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: So like I was like, damn, like me, not one.

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Speaker 3: So how many workouts you do?

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Speaker 2: I did like maybe six workouts or so and I

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Speaker 2: Roy Hibbert, Jason Thompson, guys like that going at it

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Speaker 4: When you talk about real og vetts, you know, I

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Speaker 3: Like you say, have somebody like him to learn from.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, He's still one of my big brothers to this day,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm kind of like cool. So anything MC did,

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Speaker 2: I have no how do you know? But I will

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Speaker 2: And sometimes I wouldn't know. He'd be like, what's this player? Oh?

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Speaker 2: So after that, I just got hooked on it. Man,

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Speaker 2: Like we would come in, you know, young boys doing

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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 2: He go quiz me today. Some days he wouldn't quiz me.

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Speaker 2: Some days before the game, he's like, Yo, what's this? Like? Cool?

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Speaker 2: You know? So I took pride in that as my

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Speaker 4: Second nature. Yeah, so that helps you out throughout your career.

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Speaker 4: Hell yeah, and now do you do your young boys?

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Speaker 4: Like yeah, Like that's why That's the importance of the

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Speaker 4: some of that stuff. Got something to do what you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I had a man Baron Davis, Catino, mole

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Speaker 2: That's crazy to me. Memphis, Like yo, like I ain't

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Speaker 2: they really like put some fear in me a little

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00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:38,800
Speaker 2: bit too, but also like was teaching me the dudes

432
00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:40,520
Speaker 2: and don'ts, and they was teaching me like lessons that

433
00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:41,760
Speaker 2: they learned throughout their career.

434
00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:46,879
Speaker 1: So when the Clippers start depending on you to start

435
00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,560
Speaker 1: believing in you of being that they go to center.

436
00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:53,600
Speaker 1: How did that make you feel? That's you saying, because

437
00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,120
Speaker 1: you know, Zbo got traded. You see these guys, now

438
00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:58,119
Speaker 1: you see the business of it. Yeah, you got all

439
00:18:58,200 --> 00:18:58,880
Speaker 1: these veterans.

440
00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:03,000
Speaker 3: And next year, you know, Zbo goll contain o gol.

441
00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:07,639
Speaker 2: Yea christ you know it's my time. Yeah, Like, how

442
00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:08,359
Speaker 2: did that make you.

443
00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,560
Speaker 3: Feel when your opportunity presenting itself?

444
00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,160
Speaker 2: Well, I think early my rookie year, we only won

445
00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:13,840
Speaker 2: nineteen games.

446
00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:15,040
Speaker 3: That's how I know.

447
00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,000
Speaker 2: I felt that. Yeah, was three, and I was like,

448
00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:19,800
Speaker 2: we won as many games as my age, you know

449
00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:21,640
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like, so I'll never forget that ship,

450
00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:27,480
Speaker 2: never lost in your life, Like man, yeah, quite man,

451
00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:29,960
Speaker 2: I'm like damn, like damn, Like all right, So next

452
00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,280
Speaker 2: year we got at least in the twenty, so we

453
00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,240
Speaker 2: gotta you know. And then the next year we ended

454
00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:37,560
Speaker 2: up getting Blake obviously, and we just both started to improve.

455
00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:39,399
Speaker 2: And then we got CP and we just added pieces.

456
00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,840
Speaker 2: But with that situation, I kind of was like I

457
00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,200
Speaker 2: played something my rookie I played maybe like twenty some games.

458
00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:46,680
Speaker 2: Started a couple of games because guys was in and

459
00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:48,560
Speaker 2: out the rotation. It hurt and I was like, damn, like,

460
00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,320
Speaker 2: I'm doing this with these minutes, like now I want

461
00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,199
Speaker 2: more of this. Yeah, you know, so I was going

462
00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,280
Speaker 2: to continue to work and I'm like, damn like because

463
00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,040
Speaker 2: at first they was like I was like, oh yo, MC,

464
00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:00,879
Speaker 2: I got you, like so in practice like no, you

465
00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:04,399
Speaker 2: ain't coming in. I'm like, you know, like, get in there.

466
00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:05,719
Speaker 2: I'm like, y'all, I tried to get him.

467
00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,399
Speaker 3: He said, no, the O Jesus and practice not coming out.

468
00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,840
Speaker 3: They're not coming out because this is their game time.

469
00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:15,080
Speaker 2: And carry Strong used to do us like we got everybody.

470
00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:19,119
Speaker 2: I'm like, Paul Davis, let me out here. Damn all right,

471
00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,560
Speaker 2: Like so coaches like DJ get in there. I'm like,

472
00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,040
Speaker 2: I don't want to tell on the dude. He said, no,

473
00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:25,320
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, what you want.

474
00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:25,480
Speaker 3: Me to do?

475
00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:26,960
Speaker 2: Like I can't off the court.

476
00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,600
Speaker 4: Take us back to that, like we all saw the

477
00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,879
Speaker 4: press conference or the aftermath for when y'all found out

478
00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,680
Speaker 4: that Chris Paul was getting traded, y'all, you know, Live

479
00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:39,080
Speaker 4: City and you and Blake going crazy talk about how

480
00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,800
Speaker 4: that was when when CP first arrived and how that

481
00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:46,280
Speaker 4: changed like kind of like everything for the right, like

482
00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,000
Speaker 4: the whole belief system and everything the way that y'all

483
00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,399
Speaker 4: reviewed talk about that because you have been there, like you.

484
00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,359
Speaker 2: Said, when you were nineteen, it was viewed like shitty obviously,

485
00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:58,200
Speaker 2: Like la is a great city, it's also a Laker city,

486
00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:00,160
Speaker 2: you know, and we knew that. We know that even

487
00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,560
Speaker 2: when we still knew that straight and that's no disrespect

488
00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:04,880
Speaker 2: to them, but we were still trying to come out

489
00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,200
Speaker 2: and beat the ass every time, you know what I'm saying.

490
00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:11,760
Speaker 2: But I think me and Blake were very hungry before

491
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,440
Speaker 2: CP got there, and we was learning, but we was

492
00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,040
Speaker 2: also like trying to put on a show at the

493
00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,680
Speaker 2: same time. But I think once Chris got there, it

494
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,800
Speaker 2: kind of changed our mentality, like now we're not working

495
00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:25,399
Speaker 2: hard enough. We got to do more because like he

496
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,640
Speaker 2: expected this from us, and like we can't just keep

497
00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:30,560
Speaker 2: it not making the playoffs, you know what I'm saying.

498
00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 2: And he really, I think put a lot of I

499
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,080
Speaker 2: wouldn't say pressure, but like he expected more of us

500
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,000
Speaker 2: to like be better students of the game and to

501
00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,960
Speaker 2: our approach to be a little bit better. People have

502
00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:47,879
Speaker 2: different views of CP, like they'd be like, man, he

503
00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,840
Speaker 2: be on you, but like he like really helped us

504
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,680
Speaker 2: excel quickly, you know what I'm saying. Because he was

505
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:56,879
Speaker 2: so smart he expected a lot out of you too.

506
00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,919
Speaker 2: So it's kind of like when he got there, everything

507
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:04,119
Speaker 2: just yeah. So it was it was we knew we

508
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 2: had to do better.

509
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 3: You know us it's big man. You know the little

510
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:13,480
Speaker 3: guys over for us, it's big man. We love point.

511
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:18,800
Speaker 3: How did CP being for other team help your game?

512
00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:24,639
Speaker 2: Man? C P knew how to play like he was

513
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,239
Speaker 2: so cerebral man like he we were so young at

514
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,720
Speaker 2: that point. He was like when I come on the screen,

515
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:31,879
Speaker 2: I don't even care why I'm throwing it. I'm just

516
00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 2: y'all go get it, you know. I'm like so when

517
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 2: he first came to the team, he was throwing lives

518
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 2: in me and it was kind of like damn, like

519
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,120
Speaker 2: you're putting it right at the rim, like you want

520
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,680
Speaker 2: he wants something to do with So he was what

521
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 2: I mean, like, yo, like you could throw it a little,

522
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 2: you know, he too on point with it. Yeah, he

523
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:49,440
Speaker 2: was super on point where it was like, you know

524
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,399
Speaker 2: that's what great point guards do. They He like, I

525
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,200
Speaker 2: see what I need to So you just put and

526
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,360
Speaker 2: we was like, nah, we want to catch it here,

527
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So he was kind of

528
00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 2: like okay, so he now he would just come up

529
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,440
Speaker 2: because at first he was like you know, CP, but

530
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 2: then he started coming off and just throwing it anywhere.

531
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 2: He's like, I know, one of y'all gonna go get it.

532
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 2: So like that kind of like like jump started everything,

533
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,400
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And then Blake was such

534
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,159
Speaker 2: a great passer too, like him and CP had a

535
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 2: great two man game. He would dump it off to

536
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 2: Blake in the pocket and if Blake went dunkan on you,

537
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 2: he was floating and he was throwing me alive. So

538
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 2: we had a real type connection, man, and we was

539
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 2: all working on that stuff. And then once we added

540
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 2: like JJ Jamaal, Matt, guys like that, that shit just

541
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:30,120
Speaker 2: kind of took off.

542
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,880
Speaker 3: When you first heard Live City, how did you feel

543
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:33,440
Speaker 3: about the thing.

544
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 2: I mean, I knew that's what it was gonna be like,

545
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 2: but I'm like, now, like, could you see Chris with

546
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 2: Tyson Chandler with guys like that Hilton Armstrong and give

547
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 2: the time I believe. I'm like, man, these dudes catch

548
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:46,640
Speaker 2: a line. I'm like, man, we a couple years younger

549
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,719
Speaker 2: than these dudes, and we you know what I mean.

550
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:51,439
Speaker 2: You know what I mean because Bearn was throwing them

551
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 2: same passes. But I'm like, now we got somebody doing

552
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 2: that at the same level, if not higher. So it

553
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,639
Speaker 2: was something that we was looking forward to. You know,

554
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 2: young boys, you just want to dunk everything anyway. So

555
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:03,880
Speaker 2: with him being there, we're like, man, we got CP.

556
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 2: It's about to be over. But that shit was. It

557
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,479
Speaker 2: definitely changed, like our dynamic and our mental focus as

558
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 2: a group though.

559
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 3: Talk about how it changed.

560
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,880
Speaker 2: Like, you guys lose to the Spurs in the second round.

561
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 2: We got swept too.

562
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 3: It was ugly.

563
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 4: I was one of the fans out there talk I

564
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 4: was gonna pull it out, but it just happened. So

565
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 4: I'll get swept and then y'all get Doc Rivers. Talk

566
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,880
Speaker 4: about how Doc, because I can remember from just from

567
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,639
Speaker 4: a fan and a former player standpoint, how that was

568
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,880
Speaker 4: the first time I hadn't even been to a game yet,

569
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:38,879
Speaker 4: but when he came and he started to cover up

570
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 4: the jersey. Now, just talk about how Doc came in

571
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,160
Speaker 4: and he changed, Like he made that next step after

572
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 4: CP came and he established something when Doc came and

573
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 4: took it to a whole nother level, talk about how

574
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 4: he changed.

575
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,399
Speaker 2: And I love Doc. Doc came in with a swagger

576
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 2: that just was like, nah, fuck that this is about us.

577
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 2: You know, I know we shared the same arena, and

578
00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 2: that's no disrespect to them, no dispect to their fans,

579
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 2: but like it's our forty one games in here, you

580
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. And I think that that was huge,

581
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:06,919
Speaker 2: Like it pissed a lot of people out, but at

582
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,479
Speaker 2: the same time, we ain't you know, he ain't care.

583
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 2: We ain't care. Yeah, And Doc, really, I think I

584
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 2: give him a lot of credit to this day because

585
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 2: I think that he was one of the first guys

586
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 2: who coaching wise, really was like, I go, I'm gonna

587
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 2: let you play to your mistakes. Don't look over here

588
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 2: when you mess up. I'm not taking you out.

589
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 3: Just play.

590
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 2: And he gave me the like okay, because like, obviously

591
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 2: it's Chris and Blake, they the all stars of the team,

592
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 2: and we I knew that. I knew, like my job

593
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 2: was this, But he was the first guy who was like,

594
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 2: oh no, no, we ain't got a big two. We

595
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,119
Speaker 2: got a big three, and I'm like big where like

596
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 2: oh me, oh shit, okay, bet you know, and he

597
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 2: was like, no, this is this is what we're doing.

598
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,439
Speaker 2: This is our three guys, because at that point in time,

599
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 2: every team wanted a big three, and he was the

600
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 2: first guy to kind of promote that with all three

601
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 2: of us and just give me the confidence to go

602
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 2: out there and excel. And I think that that helped

603
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 2: me individually as a player, as a man, but also

604
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 2: like our group to kind of like, oh no, we

605
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 2: should be expecting this out of ourselves and not just

606
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 2: a first round exit or just making the playoffs. We

607
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 2: want to win a championship. And that was his and

608
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:09,400
Speaker 2: our aspiration when he came.

609
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 1: I remember how that changed and it turned into a

610
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 1: big three. But how was it for like not only

611
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 1: your team, but the league to start appreciating what you

612
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 1: brought to the table?

613
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 2: Man? It was huge, man, because like the league is

614
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 2: obviously a scoring league, you know what I mean, But

615
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,880
Speaker 2: there are some guys like Marcus can Be, Ben Wallace,

616
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 2: guys like that who put their name on the defensive fact.

617
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 2: And you know, Doc always talked about being a star

618
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,120
Speaker 2: in your role, you know what I mean, Like DJ,

619
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 2: everybody can't score thirty everybody can't take thirty shots. But

620
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 2: you can go out there and get twenty rebounds. You

621
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 2: can go out there and get four blocks. You can

622
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 2: go out there and having a huge impact on the

623
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 2: game without just scoring. And I was like, okay, cool,

624
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,719
Speaker 2: Like whatever this role is, I'm gonna try to make

625
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 2: sure that nobody else is better than me at this

626
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 2: At that point, it was rim running, setting picks, rolling

627
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 2: to the basket, and being a great defending rebounder. And

628
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 2: when I started to see like the benefits come from that,

629
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, shit, don't you know I don't

630
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 2: need to be pissed updam they throwing me the ball

631
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 2: in the post. I can get it some you know

632
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 2: another way. Like it took off after that. My confidence

633
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 2: was high, and I started to realize like, hey, you

634
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 2: know what if you set the screen and roll hard

635
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 2: to the basket, like you probably gonna get the ball.

636
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 4: Yay, you know tell me this. So y'all win up?

637
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 4: You know, for the Clips was just huge. Y'all give

638
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 4: fifty seven wins, franchise record, you know what I'm saying.

639
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 4: Y'all beat the Warriors in the first round. Then a

640
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 4: Donald Sterling tape dropped.

641
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 2: Like what the fuck? Like, tell me where you were?

642
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 4: Like it just like how it came to you and

643
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 4: then when you got with a team, like, tell me

644
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 4: how all that played out for you?

645
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 2: Man, I think it was game. It was in the

646
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 2: playoffs for sure. But we was on the road and

647
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 2: we had a meeting before and Doc was like, hey,

648
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 2: tomorrow some stuff go come out of Sterling, you know,

649
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:07,360
Speaker 2: and you know, but it's some bullshit, you know, don't

650
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 2: even don't even worry about that. We focused on being

651
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 2: the Warriors, and we laughing about it because we like,

652
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 2: at this point, we don't know the severity of this situation,

653
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 2: you know. And I'm like, man, this dude probably got

654
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 2: caught with some girls, you know, like we just we

655
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 2: all thinking about what you think is gonna happen. You know.

656
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,679
Speaker 2: The next morning, you know, the group chat is going crazy.

657
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,239
Speaker 2: So I'm like, man, what's this. I'm scrolling back up.

658
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, it's the audio. I'm listening to it.

659
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh fuck, I'm like, this is not what

660
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 2: I thought it was, you know what I'm saying, and

661
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 2: like the ship that he was saying. Obviously, you know,

662
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 2: everybody in the world has heard it at this point,

663
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 2: but it was kind of like damn, like that's what

664
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 2: you got on your team, you know. You know, like

665
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 2: at that point, I think it was only like JJ reddick,

666
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. It was the only white

667
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 2: dude on the team. That's my guy. So I love him. Yeah,

668
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 2: shout out JJ. But like when we went to the

669
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 2: shoot around meeting the next morning, the energy was just

670
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 2: fucked in there, you know. And I'm the type of

671
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 2: player my mom you could see it on me the

672
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 2: whole time. So Doc like, DJ, what's going on? Yeah,

673
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, I don't know if I want to

674
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 2: play man, Like, fuck this, dude, I don't know. I

675
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 2: ain't I'm cool on this. So JJ is like, whatever

676
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 2: you guys want to do, like you whatever y'all want

677
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 2: to do. And you know, Doc really he gave us

678
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 2: one of his speeches like and he was like, man,

679
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 2: when y'all made it to the NBA, when y'all was dreaming,

680
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 2: y'all wanted to win the championship, y'all want to win

681
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 2: it for an owner, y'all wanted to win it for

682
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 2: your teammates, and and we was like our teammates. He's like, well,

683
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 2: so fuck this guy, We're gonna win for ourselves. And

684
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 2: we was all right, cool. Bet. So before the game,

685
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, we either go beat the ship out

686
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 2: of the Warriors or they go beat the ship out

687
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 2: of us. It ain't gonna be a close game. And

688
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 2: they beat the ship out of us that night, and

689
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 2: it was you know, that's how I win. Then we

690
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 2: ended up winning at seven, and then you know, everything

691
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 2: after that happened and we got Steve Bomber. He's a

692
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 2: he's a great guy and he really cares about the team.

693
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 2: But that situation was just top to bottom.

694
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: Was as you bro making All Defensive Team and All NBA.

695
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: When you seen that across the board, like, how did

696
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 1: you feel about that?

697
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 2: I felt like the stuff that I had been doing

698
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 2: I finally been you know, appreciate it. Yeah, yeah, because

699
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 2: I was like I expected to make first team All Defense. Yeah,

700
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,479
Speaker 2: because I'm like, I know, I'm doing my stuff out here.

701
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 2: You know, I'm I'm playing well, I'm you know. But

702
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 2: I remember I was working out back to back days

703
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 2: in the summer and they can called me and they

704
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 2: was like, hey, you made first team All Defense. I'm like,

705
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 2: oh shit, hell yeah, cool back, talk to my brother,

706
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 2: talked to my mom. The next day, I'm in the

707
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 2: gym again, the guy called me. He said, hey, you

708
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 2: made first team All NBA too. I'm like, what, like,

709
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 2: like first team All NBA. He was like yeah, yeah you.

710
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh shit. And that's when I was like, okay,

711
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 2: like this shit, it's real, you know what I'm saying, Like,

712
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 2: especially with the bigs that we had at the league,

713
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 2: in the league playing at such a high level at

714
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 2: that time, like Marcus alt De, Marcus Cousins, Anthony Davis,

715
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 2: like with guys like who was bawling? You know what

716
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 2: I mean. So it was something that I really appreciated

717
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 2: and I didn't take that for granted at all. And

718
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, I got to continue to be

719
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 2: dominant on both ends of the floor.

720
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: Everybody feel like the Clippers had a championship squad. Yeah,

721
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 1: tim years, like all y'all was all stars, Like y'all

722
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: making all these teams.

723
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 3: What do you feel that y'all didn't get over the hump?

724
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 2: Man? I I could name a couple of different things,

725
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 2: but I think for one, it was and this is

726
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 2: no excuse, but I think we caught the injury bug

727
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 2: a ton, yeah yeah, and that shit, Yeah, it sucks.

728
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 2: You can't do nothing about it because it's out of

729
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 2: your control. Like small things though, you know, like Blake

730
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 2: knee cp risks. You know, it was just like just

731
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 2: stupid shit, you know, and those are the ones that

732
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 2: kind of hurt a little bit. But I also think

733
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 2: when you're younger as a player, ego definitely is a

734
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 2: big factor, you know, and when you get older, you

735
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 2: don't think about that. You just like me, I just

736
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 2: want to win a chip, you know what I'm saying.

737
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 2: Regardless if I play a ton, if I shoot a ton,

738
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 2: if I score, it don't matter, like because this is

739
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 2: a bigger goal. But I think I'm sure I'm guilty

740
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 2: of this at times, like one more during the postseason,

741
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 2: but like, as long as our score is higher than there,

742
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 2: that ship really don't matter. So I think, you know,

743
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 2: some of us were definitely affected with that. But when

744
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 2: you get older, you can't get that. You can't get

745
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 2: that ship back.

746
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this, that live dunk that you

747
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 3: got on.

748
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 2: You every day, like you're not.

749
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 3: Going to do that.

750
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 4: I'm glad you stopped to dank. We ain't got to

751
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 4: do that. Everybody know who you're talking about. You ain't

752
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 4: gotta say nothing.

753
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 3: Okay. Do they send that ship to you every day?

754
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I know they just said it to you

755
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 2: every day. Like, man, look at this, like you see that,

756
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 2: you see that just throwing you under the bust your life,

757
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 2: chilling or doing whatever. You're doing. Nothing to do with this,

758
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 2: that's like NBA.

759
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 3: But they showed that ship on commercials all sorts of

760
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 3: ship that was.

761
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 2: And I think at that time, like time out, you

762
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 2: ain't completely guilt free because you made a little face.

763
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 2: You knew what you did when that was that was

764
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 2: that was, that was your boy. L O who made

765
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 2: the l O made the face at me first, and

766
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 2: I was I just was like, yeah, you're right. That

767
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 2: ship was crazy, you know what I mean? Like and originally,

768
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 2: like I tell this story all the time, like I

769
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 2: dunked the ball, I heard a boom and I'm like damn,

770
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 2: so I'm looking down about the check on him and

771
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 2: then see he pushed me and I just black out

772
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 2: after that, Like.

773
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 3: Then you walk off like time out, what are you like?

774
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 3: That's cool?

775
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 4: But what do you think it's like you in a

776
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 4: different generation from when he was booming on Motherfucker.

777
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like we went home, we talked about it whatever.

778
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,959
Speaker 2: Like you got immediately to the locker room when yo

779
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 2: on social media, Like what was that like? To see

780
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 2: the creations it was being created, the things they were

781
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 2: like real creative.

782
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 3: It was crazy.

783
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 2: They throwing coffins on the ship, you know what I'm saying.

784
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 2: So it's kind of like damn. Like you like, damn,

785
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,800
Speaker 2: that was a crazy videos and everything with that, like

786
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,919
Speaker 2: the most you've probably been like treading on your whole career,

787
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 2: Like that's still stopping to this day.

788
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 4: No.

789
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 2: No, some dude got the tattoo of my face. Yeah,

790
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 2: it was weird. Like we did a meet and greet

791
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:39,760
Speaker 2: sign thing. He was like, y'all I got the tattoo,

792
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 2: and I'm like what, I'm like, Yo, That's that's why

793
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have done that. But like, but it was

794
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,280
Speaker 2: funny because at that time, like I was very nervous

795
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 2: to go to the free throw line, you know what

796
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 2: I'm saying, And I made the free throw. So my

797
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 2: brother text me out of the game. He was like, man,

798
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 2: I'm just happy you made the It was funny, man,

799
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 2: it was good.

800
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 3: Take me back to the two thousand fifteen off season.

801
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 2: Man, you'd inverbally agreed to Cube, you to told Cube,

802
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 2: I'm coming four years eighty, which is a that's a

803
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 2: dump truck kind of way. You know. Congratulations on every si,

804
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, But like when where? How

805
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 2: did the did your your Clippers teammates and no, you

806
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 2: ain't doing your town home? Find out where you living?

807
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,479
Speaker 2: Where you were and pull up? Like what was you doing?

808
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 4: Did you know they was coming? Did they just like

809
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,280
Speaker 4: catch you off up? Like how did all this happen?

810
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 4: And then held you captain? Had they we didn't have

811
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 4: to know?

812
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 2: Like crib That's what I'm saying, Like playing back, tell

813
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 2: me from your perspective, how this win? So you know

814
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 2: we we beat Golden State that year, or no, we

815
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 2: beat San Antonio that year, right, we go up three

816
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 2: to one on the rockets, they come back and beat us.

817
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 2: So I'm like, damn, man, maybe we ain't got enough.

818
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 2: You know, we've been through this ship before, Like I

819
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 2: want to try maybe I want to try something new.

820
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 2: You know, I commit to a Dallas you know, and

821
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 2: at this point you got like a week or something

822
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 2: before you sign, you know, so I'm like, damn, man,

823
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 2: I ain't even call Doc. That's my guy. I need

824
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 2: to tell him. So I'm at home in Houston. My

825
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 2: phone rings Doc, and I'm like, oh shit, Ia, tell

826
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 2: my brothers. I'm like, Yola, lo.

827
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 3: Look.

828
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 2: My brother's like, don't answer that. I'm like, no, I

829
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 2: got to answer. I gotta talk to my guy, man.

830
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 3: So I answer. I'm yo, what up? Doc?

831
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 2: He's like, ya, man, you know, took me a couple

832
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 2: of days to process, but you know, I just want

833
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 2: to congratulate you, and you know, honestly, just tell you that,

834
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,720
Speaker 2: you know, I think we still got some finished business.

835
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah, I feel you, man like, but

836
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 2: I just think I need a new challenge, you know.

837
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 2: He was like, yeah, man, but you know, I think

838
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 2: we still could get it done here. And I'm like,

839
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,399
Speaker 2: I feel you. I just I already tell these people

840
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 2: I'm coming. I can't tell him I'm not going, and

841
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 2: he goes, well, if you did, we had your back,

842
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 2: and I'm like, I don't know, man, I can't already

843
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 2: tell these people I'm coming, you know. And he was like, well,

844
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 2: just give me an hour and I'll call you back.

845
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, cool, the whole whole conversation went

846
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 2: so fast, you know what I'm saying. And I'm like, okay,

847
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 2: we will. So Blake called me like thirty minutes later.

848
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,439
Speaker 2: He's like, yo, what's going on. I'm like, I don't

849
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 2: know what you mean. What's going on? He said, Well,

850
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,359
Speaker 2: he said, well, I just got off the phone. Well Doc,

851
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 2: we're coming to Houston.

852
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 3: I said what.

853
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 2: Why and he was like, well, I don't know. He said,

854
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,439
Speaker 2: you may be coming back and I'm like, oh, she said,

855
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 2: but I'm gonna come tonight though. So I called my

856
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 2: mom like, hey, like, uh, I think Doc and them

857
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 2: coming out here. She said for what now? Yeah, I

858
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 2: think Doc coming out here. And she was like what

859
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 2: do you mean? And I was like I don't know.

860
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 2: And she said what They're trying to get you to

861
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 2: come back. And I was like, well, I ain't left.

862
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 3: Yeah. She goes, oh ship and.

863
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 2: What was going on?

864
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 3: She said yeah?

865
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 2: She said oh. She said then people then people in

866
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 2: Dallas will kill you. And I was like, yeah, so

867
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 2: be over here tomorrow so we can meet with him.

868
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 2: I need you just said so. Yeah. That was she

869
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,919
Speaker 2: was crazy, man. So they came and we we talked

870
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 2: about a ton of stuff. Man and Paul Pierce came

871
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 2: and I had never even met him before, Like he was,

872
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 2: you know, he had just signed with us DJ. You

873
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 2: need to come back, man, Like yeah, like I love you.

874
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 2: I don't even know, you know, but like he was there.

875
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 2: Who was up, Steve Bomber, Doc Chris the equipment manager

876
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 2: who I was super close with. They had you know,

877
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 2: Matias Man him come out, you know.

878
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 3: So that was funny but weird, you know.

879
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 2: And then uh because they were like, man, we need

880
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 2: anybody who knows, you know, get it done. And they

881
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 2: bought the contract.

882
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:45,479
Speaker 3: Dude.

883
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 2: So when he came, he just set up in the

884
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,879
Speaker 2: dining room, set up and started typing up ship. I'm like, okay,

885
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 2: Like damn, so we talked whatever. So ultimately it's like, okay, cool,

886
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 2: I'm staying. Oh and JJ was there, so then I'm like,

887
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 2: all right, cool, Like I'm dabbing everybody up there. I

888
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,399
Speaker 2: right cool. I see y'all a couple of days, I'm

889
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 2: gonna go on vacation with my family. I see y'all.

890
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:10,760
Speaker 2: Man and Paul piercing arm Hill go outside they smoking cigars.

891
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, what you know? I think y'all about

892
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 2: to leave, you know, and Paul, oh, no, no, no,

893
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 2: Doc not leaving to you sign. I said, no, don't worry, bro,

894
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 2: Like you know, it's gonna be midnight eleven twelve New

895
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 2: York Times. I'm signing at eleven in Houston, Like, nah,

896
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 2: they ain't playing with you, all right. So we ordered

897
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 2: a whole bunch of girl, we ordered a whole bunch

898
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 2: of food, and like at eleven o one, I signed,

899
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:43,879
Speaker 2: then they left getting from Dallas in between that time,

900
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 2: Like what was that?

901
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 3: Like that? Man?

902
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 5: Me felt like an asshole for sure, because you did

903
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 5: me ye hands with the guys and everything is dight,

904
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 5: and I'm like damn, you know, Like yeah, I'm like damn,

905
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 5: Like you know, I'm like damn, I told Chandler and

906
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,320
Speaker 5: Dirk and these dudes I'm coming and they call me,

907
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 5: you know, and I'm like cool, like real grand yeah.

908
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 2: Because I'm like it was nothing to gainst them. But

909
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 2: I'm like, I knew I wouldn't leaving, you want. I

910
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 2: didn't want to get on the phone with them and

911
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 2: like Bush, yeah, you know, So I was like, man,

912
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:18,240
Speaker 2: I'm just you know, we obviously the NBA we played

913
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,320
Speaker 2: Dallas first game with the season next year, you know

914
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So that was a real emotional game.

915
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 2: So it is what it is.

916
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 3: It was fun when you get your first All Star appearents.

917
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 3: How was that for you? You heard that?

918
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 2: That ship was crazy? It was just like being first

919
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:40,919
Speaker 2: team All NBA.

920
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 3: You know.

921
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,280
Speaker 2: If there was weird like being first team All NBA

922
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 2: the year before and then not making the All Star team,

923
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 2: that was weird.

924
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 3: Crazy. That was Yeah.

925
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 2: The next year, I was like, Okay, I gotta make

926
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 2: it you for Shure now. Yeah, Like I'm like, I

927
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 2: gotta make it now, you know. So I got the

928
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 2: call from our media people and they told me and

929
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 2: I was immediately got on the phone, call my mom

930
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 2: my brothers, and they was like, oh shit, we knew orders.

931
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 3: Let's go, you know.

932
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:09,399
Speaker 2: But that I think was like damn, man, I'm really

933
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 2: doing this shit with my career. Like I'm really I

934
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 2: saw the steps, you know, and at first, I'm like, man,

935
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 2: I don't know if I can excel like and do

936
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 2: the things that I did throughout my career by just

937
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 2: playing defensive, rebounding doc. I don't know if I can

938
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 2: get there with that. And that was like a selfish

939
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,399
Speaker 2: younger player talking. But once I bought into that shit,

940
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 2: you know, I started to see everything kind of benefit.

941
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: I know, they always bring up Live City, do you like,

942
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 1: are you really kind of really feeling the impact that

943
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: y'all had on LA and the clip because you know,

944
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 1: when we was here, it's such a dominant Laker for

945
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 1: you to get any looks this way.

946
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good thing.

947
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. I definitely think we changed culture with the Clippers,

948
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 2: just like y'all, did you know what I'm saying.

949
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 3: I think.

950
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 2: I mean there was times where me and Blake was

951
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 2: running down the court doing that, you know what I'm saying.

952
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 2: So it's kind of like, especially when Lo got there,

953
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 2: you know, it was like he was y y'all, y'all

954
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 2: don't know about that. It was like, yeah we do, Yeah,

955
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 2: we do, you know what I'm saying. But it was

956
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 2: it was cool to be able to have those experiences.

957
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 2: And we would always talk about like if Laker fans

958
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 2: telling us, fuck y'all, y'all ain't ship doing something good,

959
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like so because before y'all exactly,

960
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 2: So I think that we definitely helped change the Clipper culture, like,

961
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 2: you know, doing the things that we did, but like

962
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 2: not winning the championship, I thought would like haunt me

963
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 2: forever with the Clippers, But honestly it hasn't because I know,

964
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,919
Speaker 2: like it did, was was great there.

965
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 3: So all that happened with Dallas and I still went

966
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 3: back there. I still wasn't there.

967
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 2: You know what's crazy, Like the Clippers obviously started to

968
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 2: like break up, and at that point, I didn't have

969
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 2: an agent. I didn't have an agent for like maybe

970
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:02,439
Speaker 2: five years or so. Yeah, I needed advisement because I'm like, okay,

971
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 2: well I can't negotiate a trade for myself, you know.

972
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,879
Speaker 2: So they was kind of like, hey, like we're doing

973
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 2: this with the team, so you know, you need some representation.

974
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 2: So I ended up hiring Jeff Schwartz, and after you know,

975
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 2: the Clippers was done, he was like, hey, Dallas is interested,

976
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 2: and I'm like, get the funk out of here. You know.

977
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 2: He's like, no, I'm serious, And I'm like, come on, Jeff,

978
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 2: stop playing what teams you got? He's no, I'm telling you,

979
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 2: Dallas and they have they have no hard feelings about

980
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 2: the situations. I'm like, nah, I don't believe that. Like

981
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 2: Dirk still there, Cuban still there, like them dudes definitely

982
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 2: hate me, like it's not going down. He was like, no,

983
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,240
Speaker 2: I'll get, I'll get, you know. So we talked whatever

984
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 2: and they was both like, no, it's not you know,

985
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 2: we're past that, blah blah blah. So I was like,

986
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 2: all right, what ship you know it was? It was

987
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 2: a great option at the time. You know, they had

988
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 2: a really good young cores and Jack the Luca. They

989
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 2: had Harrison Barnes, Dirk Western GOTTHEUS Dennis Smith Junior. They

990
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 2: had guys, you know, so all right, cool, I'll go

991
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 2: cool whatever. They ended up trade my ass, Like, but

992
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 2: I had. I had a good time down there, Like

993
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 2: they welcomed me with open arms, and I'm a Cowboys fan,

994
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 2: so I was like, I was at the games. Shame

995
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 2: on you, No, no, no, no, shame.

996
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,959
Speaker 3: I have to put you in the same We're gonna

997
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 3: delete that out.

998
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 2: Because beat that fake ass. America's team needs to be

999
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 2: like you hate to be hated already. I don't understandings.

1000
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 4: When what you be You a basting fucking right, Oh

1001
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:30,320
Speaker 4: my gosh, don't beat that now that team.

1002
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 3: Come on, at least our fans have sense, were sensible,

1003
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 3: y'all think y'all about to win this ship.

1004
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 2: Every year.

1005
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,399
Speaker 3: We gotta beer.

1006
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 4: We've let our team be you motherfucker's running around everyw

1007
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 4: That's That's.

1008
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 3: The one thing, listen. That's the one thing, Steve.

1009
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 2: They don't miss when you get to talk about the

1010
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 2: Bell Cowboys just as much you came on, j O

1011
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 2: d Right, all of you go on head on.

1012
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 3: They all in the same bell. Ain't no on from Dallas.

1013
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 2: Cowboys ain't come to I was like a sophomore high

1014
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 2: what I couldn't be a Tennessee Titans fan list that

1015
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 2: was not happening.

1016
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:12,240
Speaker 3: What was your first impression to Luca?

1017
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 2: I thought Luka was super skilled, bro, Like he saw

1018
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,959
Speaker 2: the court and he was just he didn't like his game,

1019
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 2: Like he didn't let the NBA speed him up, you

1020
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:24,399
Speaker 2: know what I mean. Like he was a big body,

1021
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 2: so he you know, he knew how to footwork. He's

1022
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 2: not the fastest guy, he's not the most athletic, but

1023
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 2: he's almost like a guard z bo, you know what

1024
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like like the quickest he had jumped the

1025
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 2: high he had a quick second jump and he knew angles.

1026
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 2: So I feel like that's kind of what Luca has

1027
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 2: excelled on Man, how did.

1028
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 4: You feel you got a chance to go sign with

1029
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 4: Brooklyn and you like do you think like okay, yeah,

1030
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 4: like k like this this is my moment.

1031
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 3: It's my chance to really get one.

1032
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 4: Like how did that feel going to join that team

1033
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 4: and like what you thought they were building up over there?

1034
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like obviously, like the playing was so,

1035
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 2: you know, help play with your boys and win a

1036
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 2: ring and do it the way you wanted to do it,

1037
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 2: and then it was fun. Like the years there were

1038
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 2: super fun. But like you know, injuries, coaching change things

1039
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 2: like that. You know, like shit thrown at you that

1040
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 2: you couldn't just get over. But like I don't regret

1041
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 2: that situation because I was able to like go play

1042
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 2: with guys that I consider friends and like you know,

1043
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 2: bill with them and do something that like we chose

1044
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 2: to do.

1045
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 3: Fans don't always understand that.

1046
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 4: Like I talk about my time in New York, like

1047
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 4: we didn't win really nothing, but like you know what

1048
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 4: I'm saying. In La, you know what I'm saying, we

1049
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 4: didn't really we didn't make the playoffs. But like those

1050
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 4: two cities, I played the longest of my career in

1051
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 4: four years, each and I got more relationships and friends

1052
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 4: and bonds and different things like yeah, we didn't fucking

1053
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 4: like tear down and when the championship was like bro,

1054
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 4: I spent a lot of time there, like it was

1055
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 4: my part.

1056
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 2: Like we came in, we experienced and learned different.

1057
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 4: They don't understand like your best signs just like broke

1058
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,879
Speaker 4: them with some of the like especially in LA because

1059
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 4: that's the first. You never get a first back, like

1060
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 4: I experienced all type of stuff him Corey Ke Hello,

1061
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 4: that you can never get back a second time.

1062
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 3: And it's like even though shit didn't go right to

1063
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:07,879
Speaker 3: y'all and everybody.

1064
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 2: Else, like bro, it's perfect once in a lifetime situations

1065
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 2: I would have never got to.

1066
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 3: Do, like you say, with some parts.

1067
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I like, in my heart, I'll always be

1068
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 2: a clipper, you know what I'm saying. Like I was

1069
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 2: there the first ten years of my career. You know,

1070
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 2: I built relationships with teammates, with coaches, with you know,

1071
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 2: people in the arena, you know what I'm saying. Like,

1072
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 2: you know, so when I even go back there, I

1073
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 2: still see people that I'm close with. So that shit

1074
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 2: was like and I think like at this point, you know,

1075
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 2: I have to winning the championship. I'll forever be a

1076
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 2: nugget too. But like that ship, you don't forget like

1077
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 2: the first couple years you didn't make the playoffs, whatever,

1078
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,280
Speaker 2: like those experience and those stories, that's that shits.

1079
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 3: Whatever.

1080
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 4: You was in the gym with KD and Kyrie coming

1081
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 4: out of practice, did you ever come in prejudice and

1082
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 4: just look around, like, man, look at these two right here,

1083
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,879
Speaker 4: Like what was you thinking when you're looking at them too?

1084
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 4: Like I'm really on the team with these two dudes,

1085
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 4: and these two motherfucker it's.

1086
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 2: Crazy just being like that big three shit was forming,

1087
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 2: Like even with the Clippers, like just to see Blake

1088
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 2: and Chris work on their craft and work on their

1089
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 2: game the way JJ would work, it was just like

1090
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 2: it's crazy. But then when I got to Brooklyn seeing

1091
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 2: them dudes who can put up fifty every night, if

1092
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 2: they want to know what I'm saying, Like, it's just

1093
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 2: the way the stuff that they deal with the basketball,

1094
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 2: like how they work, Like everything during practice was full speed,

1095
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 2: working in the individuals. So then when they got in

1096
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 2: the game, it was just you know, KD already seven

1097
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 2: feet tall. You know something when you shoot the ball.

1098
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, Kyrie doing crazy layoups. So then

1099
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:31,879
Speaker 2: when you get in the game, like, oh, I ain't

1100
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 2: got to put it that high off the glass. I

1101
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 2: can put it here level three, You're still not getting it.

1102
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 2: So just to see like them dudes like perfect their

1103
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 2: craft over and over and over again. And then when

1104
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 2: James got there, I'm like, there's no way if I'm

1105
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 2: with the Clippers. I'm like, there's no way in my

1106
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 2: career what I play with Kyrie, Kad and James. It

1107
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 2: just didn't make sense for that to actually happen. It's

1108
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 2: just like wow, like three MVP caliber players on one team.

1109
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 2: It just it was crazy. Like so just to be

1110
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 2: able to see you know, them play ones or shooting

1111
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 2: competitions like you was there all day, yeah, because they

1112
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 2: weren't missing that was cool to see.

1113
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 3: How does it feel to be called world Champion DeAndre.

1114
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 2: Champ Man just the cherry on the rest of your life.

1115
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 3: You can't change that exactly, So, like, how did that

1116
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 3: feel it?

1117
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 2: That ship? Still sometimes it don't feel real, you know

1118
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like I'll go back and watch the

1119
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 2: videos and look at the pictures, you know what I'm saying,

1120
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 2: it's like that feeling is it's crazy, bro, Like all

1121
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 2: types of emotions came up for me at that time.

1122
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 2: Like I got in Game five and like you know,

1123
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 2: I made a couple of impacts on the game. Like

1124
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 2: it was it was cool to be able to have

1125
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 2: that experience, and like especially with guys like Jeff Green

1126
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 2: and Smith and you know what I'm saying, Like, so

1127
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 2: this guy went around the league and put that work in,

1128
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 2: and like guys who like you know, bounced around the

1129
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:00,800
Speaker 2: league for a little bit, you know, like Aaron Gordon

1130
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 2: and KCP. Guys who really have to like Jamal and

1131
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 2: Michael have to work through injuries and ship. So we

1132
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 2: had a team of fighters. I felt like so like

1133
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 2: and I'm thinking about the last twenty seconds of the game.

1134
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:15,800
Speaker 2: I'm supposed to be thinking about the game and finishing

1135
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 2: the game, but I'm thinking about all those years of

1136
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 2: losing early in the playoffs. God's getting hurt.

1137
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 3: You had that flash.

1138
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,399
Speaker 2: And then you know, my brother's like, man, you gonna

1139
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 2: cry y'allin like hell no, Like you know, I'm be happy,

1140
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, But like whatever you say

1141
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 2: is gonna happen. That's not gonna happen, you know what

1142
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like, it's just every outset motion was. I'm

1143
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 2: glad it did because I needed to feel that. I

1144
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 2: wanted to appreciate that, and they helped me appreciate that

1145
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 2: moment even more.

1146
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 3: Though, how was it for you? Getting that?

1147
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 4: Like you know, we all watch it year after you

1148
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 4: after ye after Yeah, like Champions, then they go in

1149
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 4: to locker room and then they put the godgools and

1150
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 4: the like how was that to get that?

1151
00:50:55,360 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 2: Champagne shallowed? My hair smelled like champagne and cigar smoke

1152
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 2: for like two weeks, and I really didn't care that.

1153
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 2: I wake up in the morning like yeah, you know

1154
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 2: what I'm saying like, yeah, that's that's like yeah like

1155
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 2: that because it was like a nostalgic feeling, like and

1156
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 2: we tore that fucking locker room up, you know, how.

1157
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:16,240
Speaker 3: Was How was the city?

1158
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 4: Like right, I'm talking about like not the parade even

1159
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 4: that because I remember seeing agg he got out because

1160
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 4: he couldn't even drive home.

1161
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 2: He got out with the clothes with.

1162
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 3: Like how was it for you?

1163
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 2: Like leaving the arena that night and going like like

1164
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 2: how was it? I ain't lead arenaun til like one

1165
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:34,919
Speaker 2: thirty two in the morning.

1166
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:35,760
Speaker 3: Just party.

1167
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1168
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 3: So it was.

1169
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 2: I'm soaking all of this. I'm not going nowhere like

1170
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 2: they're gonna have to kick me out here, you know what,

1171
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 2: because it was I need to experience this to the fullest,

1172
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.

1173
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 3: It was for your family. Amazing your family to experience that.

1174
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 2: I told y, I'm like, hey, bed time may not

1175
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 2: be a thing tonight, you know what I'm saying. I'm like,

1176
00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 2: they got to come to the game. Like my youngest

1177
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 2: was maybe, like, shit, thirteen months at the time, so

1178
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 2: you know, we had a strict bedtime with him, you

1179
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:08,800
Speaker 2: know what, I'm like. But my oldest is seven, and

1180
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 2: I'm like, nah, they you know what this family. So

1181
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, I never know if you know,

1182
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 2: it took fifteen years to get there, you never know

1183
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 2: if you go get there again. You know, I'm like,

1184
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 2: i gotta I need everybody here. My whole family was there,

1185
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 2: My wife's family was there. So that shit was just

1186
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 2: I needed every experience possible that night. What was the

1187
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 2: dopest part of the actual parade, because that's something that

1188
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:30,399
Speaker 2: we see.

1189
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 3: You know, I'm from Chicago, so I grew up grade six.

1190
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 4: Grand part you know, shout out, like what was it

1191
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 4: like for you to sit out there and you know,

1192
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 4: first to do the whole parade and then when you

1193
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 4: get there and you see you didn't rode through and

1194
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 4: start the thousands of thousands now and do you get

1195
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 4: to that one point where y'all on that stage and

1196
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 4: it's just see the endless people? What is that to

1197
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 4: feel like to see that and they all there to

1198
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 4: celebrate y'all bringing something to the city that ain't been

1199
00:52:58,840 --> 00:52:59,439
Speaker 4: done ever.

1200
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 2: Like that ship was crazy. Like I've always like looked

1201
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 2: at pictures and from parades and stuff, watched parades and

1202
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 2: you know, watch some of the parades that you know,

1203
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 2: I was involved in the playoffs, and I'm kind of like, damn,

1204
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 2: like look at that, you know, watching the ring ceremony

1205
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 2: shit like that. So the parade was was everything you

1206
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,879
Speaker 2: could have imagined, bro, But more like going out there

1207
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 2: seeing people like peeking behind the curtain, like don't go

1208
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,800
Speaker 2: out We're like, man, I got to see this, you know,

1209
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 2: just seeing the floods of people like waiting on us

1210
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 2: to come out, like Denver, like the fans out there crazy, man,

1211
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 2: Like they really really cared about the team and like

1212
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 2: you know, snow, it don't matter. They was at all

1213
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 2: the games, you know what I'm saying, Like that stuff,

1214
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 2: that mile high advantage, that ship is real, you know

1215
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 2: what I mean? And I appreciate those fans. They it

1216
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 2: was there for us to shr middle finger. You know it.

1217
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 2: He's a basketball player. You know what finger? You going

1218
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 2: my first you know where I'm going with. So yeah,

1219
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 2: you guys will see it in October twenty four.

1220
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 1: So you got an opportunity to see Joker, all right,

1221
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 1: real see the Joker that step back off the wrong

1222
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 1: lig that's naturally.

1223
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, he shoot there like it's it looked unorthodox, but

1224
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 2: it's like it's almost like him shooting the layup.

1225
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:19,799
Speaker 1: It's what you see in him when you like because

1226
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 1: you a sinner, yeah you know, and you played that

1227
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 1: position so long, like what you see from this year

1228
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 1: that you was just like, damn, he fucking everybody up.

1229
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 3: He running into man.

1230
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 2: His footwork is crazy, his touch is crazy. But what's

1231
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 2: even crazier is that like he don't he's not doing

1232
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 2: nothing emphatic out there, Like he's not ducking crazy, he

1233
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 2: not blocking shit, but he like you look at me like, damn,

1234
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 2: yo got forty and seventeen and twelve. I ain't damn

1235
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 2: Like I know he scored a couple of times, but

1236
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:52,320
Speaker 2: like everything he does is big, but it's also quiet

1237
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 2: that kind of makes sense, like he not out there

1238
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 2: doing yeah, like he like boom boom, slow roll boom,

1239
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 2: oh pumfect you went boom lay up. You know, I'm

1240
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:03,479
Speaker 2: gonna get a coup tip in rebounds, and he gonna

1241
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 2: make the right basketball play every time regards you know

1242
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,320
Speaker 2: in the finals, like, yo, go score, you gotta go

1243
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 2: get the bugget the dog funck that you know I

1244
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 2: gotta make this is the right player. Just let's just

1245
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 2: play basketball the right way and like to see your

1246
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 2: best player be like okay, cool, like I'm not going

1247
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:19,359
Speaker 2: to force the shot if they double me. Cool when

1248
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 2: of y'all cut might be ready to ship like like

1249
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 2: he make the right basketball player every time. And you

1250
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 2: want to play with a person like that.

1251
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 4: You were rarity in the fact that you didn't play

1252
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 4: with some of the you know, the all time greats

1253
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 4: like and you didn't been able to like because it's

1254
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 4: one thing to you know, play against people see him

1255
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 4: play or whatever. But when you get that rare privilege

1256
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 4: to be every day. I see how this dude work.

1257
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:43,280
Speaker 4: I see the best of him in practice and training.

1258
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 4: I see I didn't seen stuff that they don't get

1259
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:47,800
Speaker 4: to see him do in the real games. It's like

1260
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 4: more consistent, like talk about like you didn't have Luca,

1261
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,320
Speaker 4: you didn't have CP Blake, you didn't have KD.

1262
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 3: Kyrie.

1263
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:57,720
Speaker 4: Now you got jokes, you know what I'm saying, Murray,

1264
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,919
Speaker 4: You know, like talk about what you and them dudes

1265
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 4: from them practices to separate them and make them as

1266
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 4: great as they are.

1267
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 2: I think all of those guys are great players in

1268
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 2: their own way, but they're very different. I think what

1269
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 2: is unique and the same about all of those guys

1270
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,439
Speaker 2: as their masters at their craft, you know what I'm saying.

1271
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 2: Like the crazy layups you see Kai make, the one

1272
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 2: leg fadeaways, you see KD make the crazy step backs,

1273
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 2: you see Jamal make the crazy floaters and shit that

1274
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:30,800
Speaker 2: Nicola makes. Like they work on that ship in practice

1275
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:34,760
Speaker 2: before practice, after practice, like they working on them crazy shots,

1276
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:37,800
Speaker 2: Like I've seen Jamal work on a one leg falling

1277
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 2: out of bounds three pointer, Like I'm like, why are

1278
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 2: you working on that shot? You know, you know, you

1279
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 2: never know, you know what I'm saying, But I know

1280
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 2: what I mean. Some crazy, some crazy you know, Tom

1281
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 2: winding out, you know, and heaven switch their bitches. And

1282
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:52,359
Speaker 2: I'm like, damn, like you may he may take four

1283
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:54,320
Speaker 2: hundred them shots to work on during the season and

1284
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 2: then one can help us win a game and win

1285
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,720
Speaker 2: a playoff. Serious, So those guys really work on their craft.

1286
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 3: Do you know you the NBA's all time leader in

1287
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:03,919
Speaker 3: field goals.

1288
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know every time you shoot that, we

1289
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 1: gotta get Yes, they put you in the game.

1290
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 2: Don't even play man.

1291
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 1: You gotta whold that down because that's going to keep that.

1292
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 1: Start bench trade your start one. You got a bench one,

1293
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 1: you gotta trade one. Dwight Howard, Anthony Davis, DeMarcus Cousin.

1294
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 2: Start bench trade.

1295
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 3: That's not that hard for me.

1296
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 2: It's not.

1297
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 3: It's not a prime.

1298
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, start bench trade. Damn I know one of

1299
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 2: them go text me and and it cuts me out.

1300
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 2: Start bench trade. All in their prime, all in their prime.

1301
00:57:55,480 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 2: This is tough. All right, Stop it's started. I'm gonna

1302
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 2: go with a d okay bench I'm gonna go with cuz.

1303
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 3: I am surprised.

1304
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 2: Me too.

1305
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 3: I'm I'm starting to White, starting the white.

1306
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 2: Why what you mean? I'm just asking because the reason

1307
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 2: I started because get me, just like d White was

1308
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 2: getting plugs. But he shut though I don't care about shooting.

1309
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 3: He made it what.

1310
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 4: It didn't matter if he shot or not. He shut

1311
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 4: the whole ship down, completely down. Yes, I agree with you,

1312
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 4: down and everybody was scared. Everybody was altering and changing.

1313
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 4: How that man, I respect your opinion saying what I

1314
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 4: would have done.

1315
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 3: Like, I'm just.

1316
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 2: Mention that. Man.

1317
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 4: Look, I'm starting the White, I'm benching a D and

1318
00:58:58,480 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 4: then I'm training Buggie.

1319
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 2: That's That's a tough call anyway, bro, But I got

1320
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 2: thinking about that Bookie was doing a sack like he

1321
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 2: was the Like, I'm.

1322
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 4: That championship not disrespecting book I'm not. I'm not there

1323
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 4: with I love his game and respect to the fullers.

1324
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 4: And he was a monster every situation because it ships short.

1325
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 2: But I'm just saying, like when you look at the

1326
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 2: body of word, like, first of all, DWIGHTE gets short

1327
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 2: cut because of whatever people want to do us.

1328
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 3: Bro, I was part of that time. No I had.

1329
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 2: Did what he did, he would have had. He was

1330
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 2: supposed to have four straight. They just didn't like him

1331
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 2: no more. They was mad at how he was, what

1332
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 2: was going on. He should have had four, and nobody

1333
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 2: ever had for it. Everybody had three. He should have

1334
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 2: had four in a row. They didn't give him the

1335
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 2: fourth because of the other stuff, not because of the court. Man.

1336
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 2: I'm thinking like, because I didn't have to guard these dudes.

1337
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 2: So I'm thinking like, Okay, cool Dwight, Like I know,

1338
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 2: I gotta guard him in the post. Well with them

1339
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 2: dudes like they get it on the rebounds, pushing it,

1340
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So I'm thinking about.

1341
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 3: You just ain't no wrong, you know.

1342
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 2: I say that to say that's how dominant he really was.

1343
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 2: The dominant deal. Get put that with me.

1344
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I'm just feel if you had to pick

1345
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 1: four other teammates out of all the teammates you would

1346
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 1: have had in the NBA, and you had a lot

1347
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 1: of them, you have to pick four other teammates to

1348
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 1: run the five with you.

1349
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 3: Who will be the four other teammates?

1350
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 2: Oh damn, that's tough.

1351
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 3: He got some ship too. He gonna have one of

1352
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 3: them teams.

1353
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 2: We got every essence a lot, and we're gonna put

1354
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 2: like a bracket together and see who had the coach

1355
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 2: d right, and I'm interested to.

1356
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 3: Hear what you had too, because d Wright had some

1357
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 3: sleeper ship.

1358
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 2: Damn. That's crazy. Okay, I'm gonna go me at the five, right, Damn.

1359
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 2: See this is tough. I'm putting KD at the three,

1360
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 2: so that's uh four. I'm trying to decide if I

1361
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 2: want to go Dirk Dirk Blake a d Joker Cola, Like,

1362
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 2: that's tough unless I just go four monstars and just

1363
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 2: go four footers and and and CP. You know however

1364
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 2: you want, all right, So I'm gonna go me at

1365
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 2: the five. Crazy right here, NICOLEA at the four. Mm hmmm,

1366
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 2: it's crazy all already, KD at the three, Cayrie at

1367
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 2: the two, and CP at the point.

1368
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 3: That's Lucad.

1369
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 2: That's a five. Okay, okay, okay, tell me when did

1370
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 2: you become vegan?

1371
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 3: I heard about you got a whole guard.

1372
01:01:57,840 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 2: You're in your gig.

1373
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 3: You don't look vegan bout it way.

1374
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 2: Because I be confused by people to say they're vegan.

1375
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 2: I don't know what to think because some people be

1376
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 2: real skinny. Some people be regular fat people. That's like

1377
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 2: or whatever, Like I'm vegan. I'm I thought if you

1378
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 2: was vegan, you was supposed to be slim, thugging. It's

1379
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 2: like you, I don't know what. I'm not trying to

1380
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to be an expert. I'm just talking

1381
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 2: about how he got on his vegan journey and like,

1382
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 2: you know, he got a whole guard.

1383
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 3: We know he trip.

1384
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 2: Really you're supposed to see a person and say, oh,

1385
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know. That's what I'm asking. This

1386
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 2: is what I'm talking I'm talking about. Okay, I'm ignorant

1387
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 2: to the whole situation, That's what I'm saying. I didn't

1388
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 2: know what to think. Like when the first person I

1389
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 2: started with fount like you vegan like one of my plattners.

1390
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe.

1391
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:42,920
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, what you're trying about?

1392
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 2: Like I thought that Nitture was gonna be around here

1393
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:49,440
Speaker 2: looking you know what I'm saying, Like, like, so how

1394
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 2: did you get into the vegan Like I heard you

1395
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 2: got to hold you gotta cooking show? Like what what

1396
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 2: do you enjoy the food?

1397
01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 3: You're from Houston? You call my mama?

1398
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 2: Was am doing this vegan thing.

1399
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 3: She was like, what your mom?

1400
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 2: I call my grandma. My mom was like, I'm gonna

1401
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 2: do this little damn this vegan thing. You know, I'm

1402
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 2: gonna just eat playing and they was like you sick.

1403
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, you can't eat mama cooking. No Mom,

1404
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 2: I mean.

1405
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 3: Grandma.

1406
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 2: No, she's not cooking, no vegan nothing.

1407
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:18,959
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1408
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:21,920
Speaker 2: I took it to a couple of big restaurants. She's like,

1409
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 2: now if I had this, I do it.

1410
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:24,439
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1411
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 2: Like, but when you tell somebody you're vegan, they initially

1412
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 2: think all you eat is salad. That ship. You know

1413
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:31,720
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, the fact, but it's like it's other

1414
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:37,240
Speaker 2: stuff out there. But like Caulifer Califly wings. They go,

1415
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 2: I'm telling you Wings'll know what I'm talking about. College

1416
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 2: You can you can bake them, you can fry and

1417
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 2: you buffalo boom. You're ready to go and you that's

1418
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 2: not But in my mind, I gotta say some wing. No,

1419
01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 2: you're lying to yourself. Don't get that, Okay, But you

1420
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:03,200
Speaker 2: know what, I.

1421
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 1: Ate the cauliflower pizza with the with the whole califier

1422
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 1: fake vegan.

1423
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 2: He don't and stuff, but he would like eat what Yeah,

1424
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 2: a little flexitarian. Ain't not wrong with a little flex

1425
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 2: See that means that.

1426
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 1: He makes it ont I'm a little flex don't worry

1427
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 1: about it.

1428
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, but what is it like? I mean like for me?

1429
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 2: Like? Uh, I do like some of the beyond me

1430
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 2: stuff like pizza's pastas.

1431
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 4: So let me get this straight, right, So you want

1432
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 4: to like I barbecue, I get it. Yeah, you want

1433
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 4: them people, You're gonna tell me you get one of

1434
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 4: them beyond burgers right our hand see our handy tried

1435
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:52,919
Speaker 4: me like this. Hey bro, hey bro, remember the little

1436
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 4: food truck with the beyond broad ain't no beyond burger

1437
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 4: on the planet.

1438
01:04:57,680 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 2: Then I'm gonna sit here and bite it. I don't

1439
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:01,200
Speaker 2: care how you dress it up and dressed it down.

1440
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 2: I know a real burger and a fake burger. But

1441
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 2: you're not.

1442
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 3: You're not eating a fake burger. You're like, oh this

1443
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 3: trash you still eat?

1444
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 2: No, I'm not.

1445
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 3: I don't want it.

1446
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:14,600
Speaker 2: You know you're not. You're not telling the crazy difference

1447
01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 2: like that. If they both grilled the same, I ate something,

1448
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 2: they're good. Yeah they sold man, one of you'all taste

1449
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:24,600
Speaker 2: pasts I'm telling you what I know. I'm a real

1450
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 2: one when it comes to this barbecue grilling and a.

1451
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:29,919
Speaker 1: Talking, I ue we're talking about vegan, I'm not talking

1452
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:33,120
Speaker 1: about Let me ask you that this is a real question.

1453
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 3: So since you're vegan, No, it wasn't.

1454
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:40,240
Speaker 1: Since you're vegan, Like, how is it on the on

1455
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 1: the road because a lot of hotels don't serve that.

1456
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 1: Sometimes you get in kind of late or late night

1457
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:50,840
Speaker 1: and you don't have too many spots.

1458
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 3: How is it on the road for you to be

1459
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 3: the road?

1460
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 2: That's it's tough, especially you know how you know we

1461
01:05:57,400 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 2: get in LA sometimes sometimes I bring some snacks on me.

1462
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 3: You gotta.

1463
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 2: Okay to get me through. But uh, the team they

1464
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 2: do a good job and like making sure the hotel

1465
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:19,840
Speaker 2: have some certain stuff. Yeah, yeah, what you tell me

1466
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 2: what you think? Have you seen today? The first time

1467
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 2: we seen Kevin Hart little vegan fast foods like heart, heartbeatings,

1468
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 2: the house, her heart house, you've seen her. You have

1469
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:31,440
Speaker 2: never been there, but you're going today.

1470
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:32,960
Speaker 3: No, no, hell no, that wasn't.

1471
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 2: That wasn't the point I thought you were saying. He

1472
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 2: was trying to go. Have you heard a good things

1473
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:40,920
Speaker 2: about I haven't been yet. I heard your stuff. Ye

1474
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 2: heard you heard it did a good job. You should

1475
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 2: go and just see what they got up in there though, Yeah,

1476
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 2: I heard it did a good Maybe Burger Wings.

1477
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 3: Do the damn thing all that, whoever do do that.

1478
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to let you know that's not I'm

1479
01:06:56,800 --> 01:07:00,400
Speaker 2: not like one day a week like boom, I'm gonna

1480
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 2: perpetrate that.

1481
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 3: That's not what I'm one day And that's you this.

1482
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 1: We all want to play for your team USA. To

1483
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 1: get the opportunity to play for team USA. Go to

1484
01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 1: Brazil and when that thing where you go Brazil and

1485
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:19,400
Speaker 1: when that thing it was video and I know that.

1486
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 2: Was like live. We had a good time out there.

1487
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:23,880
Speaker 2: We had a real good time, man, And I played

1488
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 2: with some you know, gold medal in yeahs. You know

1489
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:27,840
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.

1490
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 3: God, damn your trophy case looking mind and nice over there.

1491
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:39,120
Speaker 2: Was solid, solid, solid, solid talking about I heard good.

1492
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:43,840
Speaker 2: I heard that your style role model was walk Clyde Fraser.

1493
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:46,480
Speaker 2: He's one of them, that's my man. Yeah, he's one

1494
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:49,240
Speaker 2: of them. How did he become your fashion? Did you

1495
01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 2: start win?

1496
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 4: Did he become did you see him like when you

1497
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 4: started playing and going through the game.

1498
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, like how you how somebody get away with some

1499
01:07:56,720 --> 01:08:00,479
Speaker 2: cowprint past and like a jacket was spoken to about

1500
01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 2: this wag a couple of times, like he was like, man,

1501
01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 2: you know, I just what I feel. You know what

1502
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:05,400
Speaker 2: I'm saying.

1503
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 3: That way you go get hold.

1504
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 1: Tell you about the hat game, man, because he'd be

1505
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:14,360
Speaker 1: on my ass about my game. And I'll be like, man,

1506
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:16,640
Speaker 1: get you, get you a nice little you know what

1507
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 1: I'm saying. First of all, he's seeing you rocking some night. Listen,

1508
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 1: come on over to the good side man, the hat game.

1509
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 1: That's I take pride in my thank you.

1510
01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 3: I take pride of my head.

1511
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:29,000
Speaker 2: I take about to sitting here and listen to this

1512
01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:31,880
Speaker 2: man like he got fifty million hats here, Like he

1513
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 2: got nice little hats on in the Hall of Fame. Yeah,

1514
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:38,519
Speaker 2: I got fifteen up.

1515
01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 1: He got the you know, recollection against your boy.

1516
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:48,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have to has wear sat man because you

1517
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 2: can dress him up, dress him down any kind of

1518
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 2: weather you want to do. You need to get on board.

1519
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:56,200
Speaker 2: You're halfway there right now with the bucket, you bull head. Anyway,

1520
01:08:57,479 --> 01:08:58,839
Speaker 2: well damn.

1521
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 4: I'm about to listen be miles about you gassing about

1522
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:10,639
Speaker 4: some go. We be going to tell you you got Yeah,

1523
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:12,040
Speaker 4: you can feel it up. You can fit two or

1524
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:13,640
Speaker 4: three in there. We're one ready to go.

1525
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:14,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1526
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:16,719
Speaker 3: He'd be like, man, you're looking like Bumping Johnson.

1527
01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:18,519
Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, what you're talking about?

1528
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 4: Every time you come out thinking about either D Nice

1529
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:22,960
Speaker 4: D I call m d J D Nights or either

1530
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:24,360
Speaker 4: Bumpy or Spikey Johns.

1531
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:27,519
Speaker 2: Hey, no life like very well connected my hat game.

1532
01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:29,640
Speaker 3: But man, say, hey, that man looking good in this

1533
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 3: has man nice Briand you know what I'm saying, you

1534
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:33,960
Speaker 3: are boy.

1535
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:38,720
Speaker 4: I'm done with him, between the vegan stuff and the hat.

1536
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 4: I can't deal with this. Let me get back to

1537
01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:42,680
Speaker 4: my age town navy man.

1538
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:43,040
Speaker 3: Listen.

1539
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:45,160
Speaker 4: One of the questions I love to ask is when

1540
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 4: you know we all come from humble beginnings.

1541
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 2: You know you took care of mom and the fam.

1542
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 2: You got that baggage playing. What did you do for dre?

1543
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:54,680
Speaker 4: Did you see I'm about to God damn go, I'm

1544
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:56,800
Speaker 4: about to do this and you probably now you know,

1545
01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:58,760
Speaker 4: we get older, we look back like dumb his heir,

1546
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 4: but like in that moment, it was everything. What did

1547
01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:03,479
Speaker 4: you What did you splurge on your cell phone?

1548
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:04,680
Speaker 3: And what did you do?

1549
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:07,919
Speaker 2: I went back home and went to the club, okay,

1550
01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 2: because you know, I was like, this is you know,

1551
01:10:13,479 --> 01:10:15,120
Speaker 2: I see this, this this is what I wanted to do,

1552
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:17,960
Speaker 2: saying like you know, we're back, you know. And at

1553
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:21,240
Speaker 2: that point in time, bottles was very, very cheap, so

1554
01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:23,200
Speaker 2: it was yeah, like now you was like, oh, you

1555
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:25,960
Speaker 2: want to keep a eight hundred thousand, you know, But

1556
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:29,760
Speaker 2: back then it's all you want to patrol. I'm like, oh,

1557
01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:32,280
Speaker 2: let's go, you know. So I think it was. I mean,

1558
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:35,479
Speaker 2: I got a car right away. I got a car

1559
01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:37,680
Speaker 2: right away. But then I went to the club on

1560
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:39,799
Speaker 2: weekend back home in Houston, and I was like, everybody

1561
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 2: come out like this is what we're doing and not smart,

1562
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:46,120
Speaker 2: but it was fun in that moment though.

1563
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:49,799
Speaker 3: What made you make the decision to go back to school.

1564
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:55,040
Speaker 2: I got real interested in meditation and Buddhism. And it

1565
01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:58,360
Speaker 2: wasn't nothing going on during COVID. Couldn't golf every day,

1566
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:00,840
Speaker 2: that was not I was, you know, I would not

1567
01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 2: liked it as much, so I was. I started looking

1568
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:05,519
Speaker 2: at schools too, because we didn't know how long we

1569
01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:08,640
Speaker 2: was gonna be out, so I looked at schools that

1570
01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 2: had the programs that I was interested in, and one

1571
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 2: had it that was a real prestigious school and they

1572
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:16,360
Speaker 2: had an online program, and I took a summer school

1573
01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 2: class and I you know, did the interview process, got

1574
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:21,840
Speaker 2: accepted and I've been at school there for three years. Now.

1575
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 3: Tell us about you know, the meditation and when you

1576
01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:29,800
Speaker 3: decided to go through that process. Yeah, meditating.

1577
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:34,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly I started meditating, like and seriously, like, you know,

1578
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 2: we do those broad trips before the season, like you

1579
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:40,120
Speaker 2: go to China, so you visit temples and you know,

1580
01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 2: meditate with the monks and stuff. So I was like, damn,

1581
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:44,479
Speaker 2: like this is cool. And I learned about Buddhism. And

1582
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:47,200
Speaker 2: it wasn't like hey, if you don't do this, like

1583
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 2: it was just you know what I mean, Like it

1584
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:50,760
Speaker 2: was just kind of like a just be the best

1585
01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 2: d Miles, be the best q Rich you could be,

1586
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:54,760
Speaker 2: and that's it. I was like, I rock with that,

1587
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:57,679
Speaker 2: you know. But I really started taking it seriously when

1588
01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:01,320
Speaker 2: I do meet it from Dallas and I went back

1589
01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:04,479
Speaker 2: to the Clippers because you know, at that age reading

1590
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:06,599
Speaker 2: stuff about yourself and it's just like, oh, this guy's

1591
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 2: an asshole, he's a piece of shit. So I'm like, damn, like,

1592
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:11,680
Speaker 2: is that really who I am as a person like that?

1593
01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:16,120
Speaker 2: You know, this is basketball? I ain't know, I'm you

1594
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 2: wishing this upon me? Like that's kind of you know.

1595
01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:21,160
Speaker 2: So I really got into meditation there just to kind

1596
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:24,960
Speaker 2: of like have a separation from basketball, and I got

1597
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 2: into it the end and it's just become a part

1598
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:29,080
Speaker 2: of my everyday life, my practice and the school I

1599
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:31,439
Speaker 2: mean right now at Brown they got a program that

1600
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:34,479
Speaker 2: offers that and it's it's been a part of my journey.

1601
01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:35,720
Speaker 2: So it's just big yeah.

1602
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:38,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, tell me, like, you you've been in the league

1603
01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:40,880
Speaker 4: for a long time now, you didn't watch basically the

1604
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:44,000
Speaker 4: errors kind of change and evolve into something else.

1605
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:45,880
Speaker 3: What do you how do you feel about what you're

1606
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:46,360
Speaker 3: looking at?

1607
01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:48,519
Speaker 4: You know, while you out there, it's still being a

1608
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:50,760
Speaker 4: part of the game from where you came into where

1609
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:54,160
Speaker 4: it was, it's a lot more positionless, you know, free

1610
01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:56,439
Speaker 4: form shooting and guys getting up and down.

1611
01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:58,479
Speaker 2: Like how you feel about being part of that league?

1612
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:00,559
Speaker 2: And I was looking yeah, I mean, I mean obviously

1613
01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:01,920
Speaker 2: when I first came in, it was a lot of

1614
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:05,479
Speaker 2: cross five turn five poster you know what I'm saying, like,

1615
01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:07,760
Speaker 2: and at that point, and there's no disrespect to a

1616
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 2: lot of the guys out here now who are really

1617
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:11,360
Speaker 2: playing some great basketball. It's like if you was a

1618
01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 2: stretch five or a stretch four at that point, you

1619
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:16,080
Speaker 2: was considered soft and you wasn't playing, you know what

1620
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:18,519
Speaker 2: I'm saying. So, but now to see that kind of

1621
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:21,320
Speaker 2: change and like, like you said, this positionless in the game.

1622
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:24,240
Speaker 2: It's more flow and it's artistic and guys are just

1623
01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:27,840
Speaker 2: doing all it's no positions. Guys are doing some crazy

1624
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:29,960
Speaker 2: stuff with the basketball out there, which is cool to see.

1625
01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:33,800
Speaker 2: But it's definitely has changed the positions. But I'm sure

1626
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:35,960
Speaker 2: at some point it'll change back. You know what I mean.

1627
01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:38,879
Speaker 3: I guess what that means is your field goal presenters

1628
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:40,439
Speaker 3: were still all.

1629
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:48,040
Speaker 2: That's cool man, Like I did. I enjoyed it, so

1630
01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 2: it's funny. That's a rap man.

1631
01:13:53,000 --> 01:14:00,120
Speaker 4: Got World Champ, World Champ Jordan in the build and

1632
01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:02,280
Speaker 4: live on location with the guys.

1633
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 2: All right.

1634
01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:09,040
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1635
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