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Our first responsibility is to determine if 16 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 3: they are in physical danger for real violence. 17 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 2: If not, then we ask to think with them. 18 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 3: About the order of events so the complexities of the 19 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 3: situation and how it unfolded can be revealed. It is 20 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 3: unethical to hurt someone because we have been told to 21 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 3: do so. We are required by decency to ask both 22 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 3: the complainant and be accused how they understand the situation, 23 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 3: and this I truly believe requires an in person discussion, 24 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 3: asking hard questions and creating an environment in which complexities 25 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 3: can be faced is, after all, what a real friend does. 26 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 3: The possibility that the person is not in physical danger, 27 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 3: but is experiencing their reasonable needs being overpowered and controlled 28 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 3: by others will be revealed by this process. Similarly, discussions 29 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 3: will also reveal if they are blaming, scapegoating, or punishing 30 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 3: the other and imposing unjustified conditions of harm. 31 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 2: What if we cared enough and took. 32 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 3: The time to have the full conversation focusing on details, 33 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 3: Not only could we get away from the buzzwords and 34 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 3: their imply helplessness or innocence, but we could finally do 35 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 3: what friends, teachers, caseworkers, family and community members are supposed 36 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 3: to do, help the person to understand what is actually 37 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 3: happening in their life, their role in it, and the 38 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 3: impact of their past experiences on their present, so that 39 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 3: they can produce real choices about how to create peace 40 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 3: at resolution. 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I forgot. 75 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 3: I didn't even say what the fucking book was. And 76 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 3: somebody gonna write me and be like, what is this 77 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 3: book about? 78 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 2: You know it? So I'm reading a new book. 79 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 3: It's conflict is not abuse, overstating harm, community responsibility, and 80 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 3: the duty of repair. And yeah, it's real deep and 81 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 3: it covers. It's funny because it's a lot of concepts 82 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 3: I've been talking about on the show for a while 83 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 3: now and thinking about, and I just it's cool to 84 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 3: see people that already have articulated these struggles that, you know, 85 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 3: things that I thought about that I'm like, man, this 86 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 3: isn't good. These things are rifed for misuse. And to 87 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 3: read somebody who is you know, steeped in the game, 88 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 3: so to say, you know, like a member of Act, 89 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 3: like like Sarah Schulman is like a bona fide, bonafid activist, 90 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 3: you know, aids aids activism, you know, a professor all 91 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 3: this different stuff. To see somebody who's you know, talking 92 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 3: about alternatives to prison and then also going into the 93 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 3: fact that and this happens. I always say, what I 94 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 3: always say is we have the word, but she kind 95 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 3: of goes into detail to say, like these tools online 96 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 3: and all this stuff, we've given people language to express 97 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 3: things they never expressed. But we've also given people tools 98 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 3: to manipulate people in a way that they've never done. 99 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 4: Before because they have access to people that without the Internet, 100 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 4: they would have never had access to these people. 101 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 3: Right, So you know, before y'all even ask what I'm reading, 102 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 3: that's what I'm reading. 103 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 2: And it's very poignant and very man like. 104 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 3: Some of this shit is just so accurate to the 105 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 3: stuff that I see that I've been seeing for years. 106 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 3: I think being online has exposed us to more people. 107 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 3: And being so that we get exposed to more people, 108 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 3: we also attract certain people that are just not on 109 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 3: the up and up right, you know, And you know, 110 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 3: it's certain sick cycles you see where you're like, I 111 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 3: don't think this person as well, or I don't think 112 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 3: this person or this person just did something I've never 113 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 3: experienced before. You know, I think I've never even knew 114 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 3: what like narcissism really was and what it looked like 115 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 3: until two years ago. And now I've seen it, and 116 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 3: now I see the patterns and I'm like, oh, this 117 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 3: person's a narcissist. 118 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 2: Damn. 119 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 3: Like that's sad, and you just kind of hope not 120 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 3: to be a targeted one, but it happens, and I 121 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 3: think it up until I read about that, I've men 122 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 3: we read that article on the show. 123 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 2: I was like, what is wrong with this person? 124 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 3: But then I read it, I said, Oh, these are 125 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 3: all the things, these are the steps that went through. 126 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 3: I read a new article today about narcissists and they're 127 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 3: flying monkeys. I don't know if anyone's ever heard of 128 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 3: this shit, but I was trying to figure some this 129 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 3: phenomena out that I was, you know, seeing online, and 130 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god, this shit is real. 131 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 2: You know, maybe I'll read it on the show one 132 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 2: episode if people are interested. 133 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 3: But it was just one of those moments where I 134 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 3: was like, oh my god, this shit is making so 135 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 3: much sense, and it feels like in a weird way, 136 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 3: I've been kind of preparing myself for so much more 137 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 3: of what we do right and the consequences of what 138 00:06:56,400 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 3: we do being out in the limelight, being publicly open 139 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 3: about our and authentic about our thought process and our feelings. 140 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 3: You know, there's whether it's people that don't like you, 141 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 3: whether people that misunderstand you, or whether there's people that 142 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 3: are just like sick and need like help and shit, 143 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 3: yeah real, you willcome the focal point of these folks, 144 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 3: and of some of them anyway, not all of them, 145 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 3: but you know, and you end up having to be like, 146 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 3: how do I deal with this? I'm this is I'm 147 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 3: not a fucking trained psychologist. I don't know how you 148 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 3: deal with a person that needs help. I don't know 149 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 3: how you deal with a person that is in conflict 150 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 3: and you know, wants an online resolution or some shit. 151 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 3: But reading these things and reading like people say, like 152 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 3: this is what you're seeing. These are the things that 153 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 3: people have done. 154 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 4: And you're not going crazy and you're not alone. And 155 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 4: that's the biggest piece because so many people, because the 156 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 4: thing is everybody has some levels of narcissism, like within them, 157 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 4: like you have to in order to do certain things, 158 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 4: and accomplisse certain things, like it is a part of 159 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 4: just human nature almost, but some people actually take that 160 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 4: and they actually take it to the next level, which 161 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 4: most people never get to within their lifetime. 162 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's just to read about this stuff, man, 163 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 3: I don't know, it's so affirming, you know. And then 164 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 3: she goes on to talk about like the state, the 165 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 3: system police, how people get police involved in situations where 166 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 3: we know the police will be violent, and how people 167 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 3: use policing to punish people, use you know, somehow can 168 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 3: use a legal system to punish people and especially narcissists 169 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 3: if they can get to the to the tools faster yep, 170 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 3: and get ahead of whatever really happened. 171 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 2: That's what they do. 172 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 3: So, you know, it's it's just shit is more complicated 173 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 3: than people think a lot of times. And I think 174 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 3: we've simplified so many concepts to just buzzwords and they 175 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 3: don't and they're buzzwords that you know, even when well 176 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,599 Speaker 3: intentioned when they came up, they can be used for 177 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 3: ill like any It's like a weapon. 178 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 2: It's like a gun. 179 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 3: You know, a gun is not necessarily the thing that 180 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 3: kills people, but it is a tool that can be 181 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 3: that can be used to kill, you know, and some 182 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 3: of these words are like that. 183 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's and it's kind of similar to drugs 184 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 4: does good drugs and there's bad drugs. You know. It's 185 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 4: one of those things where everybody uses these things. It's 186 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 4: kind of how these everybody use these things, but some 187 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 4: people take them and they use them for not so 188 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 4: good purposes and intentions. 189 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:19,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, like. 190 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 3: For like for example, the and she talks about this 191 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 3: in the book Too. And this book is a few 192 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 3: years old actually, like before it predates the Me Too movement. 193 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 3: But you know, as a she's a feminist, she's a lesbian, 194 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 3: she's an activist, she's in these circles, she's in academia. 195 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 3: But she talks about stuff like the believe women as 196 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 3: a slogan, and she's like, yeah, as a slogan as 197 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 3: a thing that to say that people weren't believing women, 198 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 3: so yes, we should believe women, to say you should 199 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 3: look into you know, the validity of people's claims, blah 200 00:09:55,360 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 3: blah blah. But the turnaround and say believe women will 201 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 3: what about women who lie? So does this mean all women? 202 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 3: Do we believe candas owns? Do we believe Stacy dash? 203 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 3: Like what is the limit, because if there's limits to it, 204 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 3: and it's not like every woman is gonna tell the truth, 205 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 3: it's not like, you know, the same way that every 206 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 3: man is not gonna tell the truth. But when we 207 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 3: apply these banners to people, it's like we have a broad, 208 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 3: sweeping voice brush of none of these people are bad. 209 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 3: And if you and if you say I'm in this group, 210 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 3: what now you're protected? You know, Hey, look, black men 211 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 3: don't cheat. Okay, so we know that's not true. And 212 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 3: you guys can say it all the time, and of 213 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 3: course if you're a black man, you love to promote 214 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 3: that message, well black men don't treat But is it true? 215 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 2: You know? 216 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 3: And so what is the damage done behind being able 217 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 3: to throw those words to somebody who's like, yo, I 218 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 3: think this person's being unfaithful or whatever. 219 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 2: You know. 220 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 3: Now that's a statement that people use as a joke, 221 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 3: but in many cases, just the point being that, in 222 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 3: many cases people think they're simplifying shit with these concepts, 223 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 3: but the black and whiteness of the simplification literally lends 224 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 3: itself to abuse on the other side of it. And 225 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 3: that's what I've been reading about, and I'm like, this 226 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 3: is fascinating shit. 227 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 228 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,079 Speaker 4: And also the thing is, you know you can touch 229 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 4: this before. A lot of the people on the end 230 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 4: of it are black people, like like you're you're going 231 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 4: after black people. You're punishing black people. Believe our women, 232 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 4: but the people you're attacking are women, right, you know. 233 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 4: And basically for a lot of people, particularly people that 234 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,959 Speaker 4: abuse this, it is believed me. Nobody else put me. 235 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 4: I am the only one that you are to believe. 236 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 4: Anybody outside of me is lying. And going back to 237 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 4: the passage you said when you start okay, I hear you, 238 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 4: but let's start questioning it. Let's find out what And 239 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 4: that's the. 240 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 3: Thing, like people want the amount of belief to be 241 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 3: beyond question correct, So I told you something, that's the 242 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 3: end of it. And you you know, you'd like to 243 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 3: be like, okay, cool, I can trust one percent of 244 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 3: people whatever they say is true. 245 00:11:58,200 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 2: But then we're. 246 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 3: Lying because the complex city of human beings is that 247 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 3: people don't tell the truth of all the time and 248 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 3: many times people and because of the punishment system attached 249 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:12,079 Speaker 3: to victimhood and attached to abuse, and attached to being 250 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 3: deemed an abuser. Because of the punishment system, socially and 251 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 3: of course, you know, just in the penal system, we 252 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 3: have made it so that the first person to say 253 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 3: victim wins kind of and so you have people that 254 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 3: don't want to admit any complicity. And so that's why 255 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 3: the idea and that's why I love this book so far. 256 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 3: But the idea of conflict versus abuse is matters. Overstating 257 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:44,119 Speaker 3: harm matters, because there it's okay to say, I contribute 258 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 3: it to a conflict and I don't like this person, 259 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 3: or I don't like what we're going through, or we 260 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 3: need mediation, or we need to like go back and 261 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 3: forth on this, like there needs to be some peer 262 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 3: media whatever. That's okay to be in a conflict, but 263 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 3: we now made it so that conflict is not okay 264 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 3: to be in com If you want a quote unquote win, 265 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 3: if you want to win, you say, I'm a pure 266 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 3: innocent person and this person came out of nowhere, swooped down, 267 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 3: descended upon me, and I need and you guys all 268 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 3: have to support me. 269 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 2: And by support it means do whatever I say right. 270 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 4: And the thing is, we live in society now where 271 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 4: everything is about quote unquote wins and losses, not about 272 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,439 Speaker 4: right and wrong because right and wrong actually matters more 273 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 4: than wrens and losses. Right, but a lot of people's pride, 274 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 4: a lot of people's arrogance, and a lot of people 275 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 4: there's people out in the world that never ever wants 276 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 4: to admit that they're fucking wrong. That plays it because 277 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 4: us humans are messy, so that plays into the factor 278 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 4: of a lot of these actions. 279 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 3: And with the Internet, we control how people see us correct. 280 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 3: So you can put yourself on a pedestal of I'm 281 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 3: never wrong, everyone else is wrong. 282 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 2: I'm always right. 283 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 3: My reality is always correct, everyone else is wrong, and 284 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 3: I'm dispensing knowledge down to you guys. And there are 285 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 3: some people who eat it up, like reading this article 286 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 3: this morning about the about the flying monkeys things. The 287 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 3: flying monkey people are actually called like a paths, and 288 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 3: it's a little bit like an impath, except as people 289 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 3: who are attracted the dominant personalities and they line up 290 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 3: behind us. 291 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 2: And this is something that to me seems ridiculous. 292 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 3: But at the same time, I know I've had people 293 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 3: that have felt like I'm gonna attach myself to you 294 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 3: because you're kind of a strong personality, and I've always 295 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 3: shunned that because I don't want a foot soldier. 296 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 2: I don't want a minion. I don't want to fucking. 297 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 3: I like friends, I like equals, equals, I like peers. 298 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 299 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 3: I'm not a big fan of dispensing. That's why we 300 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 3: don't do advice. That's why you don't you know, you 301 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 3: don't see me posting a lot of let me tell 302 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 3: you how to handle this situation. No, I don't have 303 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 3: the answers, you know. I'm just trying to make it 304 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 3: like you're trying to make it. But there are some 305 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 3: people that really do like that that relationship, and they 306 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 3: get that attention off of it, and they feed off 307 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 3: of it and it gets stronger. And then, of course, 308 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 3: now with these tools of the internet, you have people 309 00:14:57,640 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 3: that have severe mental. 310 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 2: Issues that can use these things. 311 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 3: So you can be a narcissist and be like I'm 312 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 3: a fine a group of people who prop up a narcissist, 313 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 3: And now the new religion is me. It is what 314 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 3: I tell you to think, is how I tell you 315 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 3: to move. It's what you doing my bidding. I want 316 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 3: you to go harass someone for me, and they go 317 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 3: do it, and you give me money. 318 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 4: And you worship me and you praise me. 319 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 3: It's crazy, like yeah, to me, it's just it's something 320 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 3: that I never thought i'd see because it just sounds 321 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 3: like something off a kid's cartoon. But now I've seen it, 322 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 3: and it's like, you know, I tried to read this 323 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 3: book and this, you know, just being one hundred sod authentic. 324 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 3: I tried to read this book like maybe three years 325 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 3: ago when I first got it, and I wasn't ready 326 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 3: to read this book because at the time, I was 327 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 3: so wrapped up in the people that were attracted to 328 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 3: what we do and some of the things were saying 329 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 3: direct conflict of what they were saying. You know, it 330 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 3: was no, this is always right this, you know, we 331 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 3: have to do this. It's either black or white heroes, villains, 332 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 3: things like this, and you know, I'm a much more 333 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 3: nuanced person than that, you know, but at the time, 334 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 3: I was like, I don't feel like I can read 335 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 3: this book because I just I was like, some of 336 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 3: these tropes have been used harmfully. And you know, when 337 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 3: I when I went back and started rereading it over 338 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 3: the past couple of years, I would just like peep 339 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 3: in and peep out, and I'd be like, well, actually 340 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 3: I've kind of seen this, like damn, and then I 341 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 3: would think, like, well, some of this is a good point. 342 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 2: You know, why am I? Why? 343 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 3: Why was I surrounding myself with black and white people 344 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 3: who demand like black and white views on every fucking 345 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 3: thing that's you know, and it's stuff that started changing 346 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 3: me was like the twenty sixteen election. You know, I'm 347 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 3: looking around, I'm like, wait a minute, dog, like, so 348 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 3: fuck Hillary, fuck Bernie, fucked everybody. 349 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 4: Let Trump win, because what's the other alternative. 350 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 3: And then when that happened, when many people that said 351 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 3: that's what's gonna come to past, I don't give a 352 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 3: fuck fuck y'all, they just went radio silent. 353 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 2: We haven't heard from them until about a month ago. 354 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 4: Come on, then they come out to what works like tada. 355 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:06,439 Speaker 2: Stuff like that turned me off of these people I 356 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 2: don't like. 357 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 3: Man. 358 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 2: I hate to say it, but like. 359 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 3: A lot of activists turn me off, yes, sir, because 360 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 3: I started singing like, oh, this is about your ego, 361 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 3: this is about narcissism, Like this is about you can 362 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 3: hide behind a cause and no one can question you anymore, 363 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,199 Speaker 3: you know, And these are things that you know on 364 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 3: the outside looking in, especially me. I'm trying to stay 365 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 3: out of people's you know, people have tried to label 366 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 3: us activistis I'm keep me out of that shit. 367 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 2: I don't believe in all that. People. 368 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 3: You know, you're an ally. I don't call myself an 369 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 3: out you're a feminist. I don't walk around talking with 370 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 3: a feminist shirt like that's not like if you feel 371 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 3: like I've earned those titles and you dubbed me that, cool, 372 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 3: but I don't request or find any power in labeling 373 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 3: myself some shit in that type of way to be like, 374 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 3: y'all do do what I say. I told y'all how 375 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 3: to think. I'm just a human being. I'm a bit 376 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 3: of an impath. I sympathize with people, but that I've 377 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 3: talked on here about the negative effects of that, you know, 378 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 3: sympathize on with people that are like users, sympathizing with 379 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 3: people that, you know, I watch how they treat other folks, 380 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 3: and I'm like, they don't treat. 381 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 2: Me like that yet yet. 382 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:11,679 Speaker 4: But I'm on the list. 383 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 3: But but I'm looking and I'm like, that person doesn't 384 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 3: seem like that's not the right way to treat people. 385 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 3: If you're on the up and up, that's not what 386 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:21,919 Speaker 3: you do to folks. So anyway, I say all that 387 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:25,679 Speaker 3: to say, like, uh, I'm reading the book now, and 388 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 3: I'm so thankful that I've had the experiences good and 389 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 3: bad that helped me be able to be in a 390 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 3: place to be like, oh, I can come back to 391 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 3: this and not dismiss it because it because I was 392 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 3: so gung hold to to only listen to the people 393 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 3: around me, I really dismissed this book. And this is 394 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 3: not some book by some white right wing nut job 395 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 3: or some turf or whatever, like you know, it's a 396 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 3: woman who's like, listen, there's more shit that's complex than it. 397 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 3: Working in this field, let me give you concrete examples 398 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 3: of how I've watched people that you know, publicly uphold 399 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 3: certain ideas but then privately do certain shit, and how 400 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 3: we deal with conflict and drama and things of this 401 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 3: nature and not just labeling it good or bad or 402 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 3: calling the cops like it's It's a deep ass book, man, 403 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,199 Speaker 3: And I'm so thankful I could have the time to 404 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 3: grow to read it now because now I can actually 405 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 3: receive what's in. 406 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 4: It right and and that and also I think for me, 407 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 4: because I know you've been kind of telling me why 408 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 4: you're reading. And this is kind of making my mind 409 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 4: kind of tick too, because the thing about it is 410 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 4: that some of these people are actually in positions of authority, 411 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 4: like real authority. They're your families, they're your mothers. There's 412 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 4: your uncles, they're your right there's they're your lovers, they're 413 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 4: your really really close friends. And the thing is, what 414 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 4: do you do when when it's somebody that you actually 415 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 4: care about and you can see these patterns, you go, well, 416 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 4: this is not right. I mean, sometimes you have to 417 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 4: cut people off. And that's why, And that's one reason 418 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 4: why I don't fought people to get mad at people, 419 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 4: because some people put like this. Some people, I've come 420 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 4: to conclusion is some people think that their family dynamic 421 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 4: with their with their mothers and fathers, sisters and brothers, 422 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 4: are the only one that ever existed. And anybody that 423 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 4: has any other fucking in relationship outside of the women 424 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 4: at home, something's wrong with you. Why don't you talk 425 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 4: to your mama, Well, you don't know what she's done 426 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 4: to me. Why don't you talk to your sister, You 427 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 4: don't know what happened. Why don't you talk to your brother? 428 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 3: You don't know, and with a narcissist, they advise you 429 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 3: the only thing you can do is cut them off, right, 430 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 3: you know. And the difference is and the stuff I 431 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 3: started noticing and maybe this will, you know, be educational 432 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 3: for the audience. I don't reck, but this is one 433 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 3: of the things that made me cool off on people. 434 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:42,880 Speaker 3: There's I don't fuck with this person. Everybody has this, 435 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 3: all of us, don't give a fuck, how nice you are, 436 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 3: how well like you are, somebody don't. 437 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 2: Fuck with you, and you don't fuck with somebody. Cool, 438 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 2: got it? 439 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 3: And then there's I don't fuck with this person. None 440 00:20:56,480 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 3: of y'all can fuck with this person. Right, that's another level. 441 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 3: That's very narcissistic. That's a very narcissistic tendency. We've all 442 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 3: seen that shit too, and I think when we get 443 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 3: in our egos. I've seen people do that. You know, 444 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 3: people have have done that before. Like, well, I've seen 445 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 3: people get into that zone where maybe you're feeling bad 446 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 3: that day, you're angry that day, you're in the middle 447 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 3: of a conflict, and you now you're like, if you 448 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 3: follow so and so follow me, you know that kinde 449 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 3: of shit. I've seen people do that I never do 450 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 3: that because it's just not my nature. And then there's 451 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 3: a third one, and this is the one I've seen 452 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 3: now is hey, go get this person. And I see 453 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 3: that one a lot, you know, And when I see that, 454 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 3: not from a lot of people, but you know, people 455 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 3: that repeat that pattern a lot, find a new target. 456 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 2: Isolate them. 457 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 3: We're attacking them, you know, the people that go to 458 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 3: Facebook group, start fightsing and then send their friends to 459 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 3: the Facebook group to fight more. 460 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 2: People like that. 461 00:21:56,200 --> 00:22:00,479 Speaker 3: Type of like belligerent behavior and shit like that. That 462 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 3: Like now I'm reading and I'm like, oh, this is 463 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 3: this is not a thing that I just thought, Well, 464 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 3: that's weird. It's a thing that people can't like. Whether 465 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 3: they can't help it or whether they're bored, I don't know. 466 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, some people and some people are just unaware and 467 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 4: some people are just more susceptible to that, if that 468 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 4: makes sense, Like, you know, because the thing is truth 469 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 4: be told. A lot of this stuff, if you're like 470 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,239 Speaker 4: a messy type of a person, is easy for you 471 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,199 Speaker 4: to get involved in this because a lot of it 472 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 4: involves mess because it involves conflicts, it involves two parties 473 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 4: that don't get along, and actually you don't actually give 474 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 4: a fuck. You just want to see the fall like 475 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 4: a mess. 476 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 3: Right, Well, apaths get something out of the relationship with 477 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 3: a narcissist. Yeah, So like enablers, flying monkeys, whatever you 478 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 3: want to call them, these people actually get something out 479 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 3: of the relationship. Now it might not be physical, it 480 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 3: might not be monetary, but it could be self esteem, 481 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 3: it could be the control of them, it could be 482 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 3: the fact that they're getting attention from the narciss but 483 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 3: like the narcissist kind of becomes the religious tentpole for 484 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 3: these folks that do this. 485 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 2: And they'll do stuff. 486 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 3: Man, reading I'm telling you reading this article, they'll do 487 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 3: shit like and it's crazy because I've seen. 488 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 2: It, like I would. 489 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 3: I couldn't believe this until I saw it because I 490 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 3: was seeing behavior. 491 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 2: I was like, that seems actually fucked up on your part. 492 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 3: Like they'll do stuff like become like informants for the narcissists, 493 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 3: Like they'll like, so you don't like this person, that 494 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 3: person obviously blocks the narcissts because they're lying on them, 495 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 3: they're attacking them, they're harassing them. So then that the 496 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 3: flying monkey does stuff like go back and forth between them, 497 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 3: you know, you're at work, you work with the narcissists. 498 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 3: You say, hey, I don't want to be in any 499 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 3: means with this person. I don't want to have any time. 500 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 3: They work on their side office. 501 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 2: I work on mine. 502 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 3: Well, the flying Monkey goes back and forth between the 503 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 3: message the mess and they have gossip. 504 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 2: And they come back and inform on what you said. 505 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 3: And there's nothing you can say that actually will make 506 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 3: that okay with them. You see what I'm saying, Like, 507 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 3: they'll tell you, like, here's the things that people do, 508 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 3: and sometimes people do stuff like, well, I'll here's a 509 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 3: third party. Maybe I can convince them that this person 510 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,679 Speaker 3: is actually the one that's fucking fucking with me. No, 511 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 3: they're getting a they're getting a high from being around 512 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 3: the narcissist career're just using your shit. 513 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 2: And like I've seen people screenshots shit. 514 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 3: I've seen people like private conversations put public because it 515 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,719 Speaker 3: curry's favor with the narcissists. I've seen it, And now 516 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 3: that I've seen it, I'm like I had to read 517 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 3: something about it cause I was like, this is and 518 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 3: maybe because it's so far from the kind of person 519 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,360 Speaker 3: I am, this is that is insane to me. Right, 520 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 3: Like I have friends who don't like each other. I 521 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 3: don't go back and forth between them, like I like, 522 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 3: I will straight up to tell you straight up, like, hey, 523 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 3: that's my homie. I understand y'all don't get along. You 524 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 3: know this is the kind of person they are to me. 525 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 3: I don't you know, maybe y'all had a different experience. 526 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna tell you how to think about them. 527 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 3: But at the same time, no, it's not. I'm just 528 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,360 Speaker 3: not gonna not be their friends because you don't like them. 529 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 3: What the fuck are we in third grade? Like we're 530 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 3: forty now, you know what I mean? Like we understand 531 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 3: these complexity. You know, this isn't high school anymore. But yet, 532 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 3: watching this ship play, I had to read something. And 533 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 3: it's very fortunate because I started reading this book before 534 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 3: the like seeing more shit flare up. So I actually 535 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 3: started reading this book and was like, oh, I'm already 536 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 3: prepared for this. All you can do is cut them off. 537 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 3: You can't reason with these folks, You can't interact with 538 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 3: their the fucking flying You have to block the flying 539 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 3: monkey people. You have to get used to them lying, 540 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 3: you have to get used to them having their own 541 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 3: like version of reality where they tell people shit about 542 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 3: you and they what they want is panic, and they 543 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 3: want any response, any they like. Blocking them is a response, yes, 544 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 3: it is. Talking to them is a response. Not talking. 545 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 2: It's all. 546 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 3: They are self fueled because it's not about you. It's 547 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 3: about them glorifying themselves and having people join in to 548 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 3: be like, Yeah, you're the real hero, You're the one, 549 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 3: You're you're the you know, you're the You're the protagonist 550 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 3: of this story and there's and that stuff to me 551 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,199 Speaker 3: is so scary. But I'm so glad for the lessons 552 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 3: we have gotten during this show and for the people 553 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 3: we've interacted with, the bad ones, not the good ones. 554 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 3: I'm thankful for the bad ones because man, when I 555 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 3: tell you cruise control now, like I get while Beyonce 556 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 3: just be like, I don't know, I'm putting out pictures 557 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 3: of me at the at the Matt Galla with my 558 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 3: husband that y'all don't like. 559 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 4: My options and keep it truck. 560 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I. 561 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 3: Get it now, because it's just like I have to 562 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 3: live my life. You I'm you're gonna stay all mad. 563 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 3: I remember talking on this show. It's had to be 564 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 3: years ago now, but it's probably The most important thing 565 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 3: I've ever discovered on this show was going on a 566 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 3: message for him where people were talking about us, and 567 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 3: I was hurt, you know. I was like, damn, Like, 568 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 3: we do a good show, we don't try to hurt nobody, 569 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 3: Like these are some very hurtful things people are saying. 570 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 3: They're saying it like they wouldn't say this to our face, 571 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 3: but anonymously on the internet they get to just say 572 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 3: whatever they want. They can call us names, they can 573 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 3: do whatever. And at that point, it had never crossed 574 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 3: my mind that that would be a day that we 575 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 3: would experience on the show, because we don't really do 576 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 3: that kind of work, Like we don't do the snarky 577 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 3: like we're shitting on everybody so you can come shit 578 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 3: on us type of thing. We don't do that, you know, 579 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 3: So to see somebody do that, even with us being 580 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 3: well intentioned, like these weren't people that had issues with like, 581 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 3: well they use this phrase on the show is offensive. No, 582 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 3: it was like they're stupid, you're fat, you're ugly, you 583 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 3: know that type of shit. And I was like, wow, 584 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 3: like that really taught me what people think about me 585 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 3: is not my motherfucking business. 586 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:45,919 Speaker 2: No, it's not. 587 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,199 Speaker 4: You have the right to feel, however, you won't to 588 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 4: feel like and I have the right not to know 589 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 4: and not to give a fuck about how you feel. 590 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 3: Reading Francesca Ramsey's book just not like this shit is 591 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,199 Speaker 3: so it's so, it's like the cosmos just lined up 592 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 3: because this informations coming into my brain at the time 593 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 3: that I needed, Like reading Francesca Ramsey talk about like 594 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 3: how she used to shit on Leana Dunnam and then 595 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,959 Speaker 3: met her, how she had another YouTuber that was more 596 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 3: successful for her than her and she was hating on her, 597 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:16,959 Speaker 3: and then she met the woman and was like, what 598 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 3: the fuck was I hating her for? 599 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like, how did I let this? 600 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 3: Like she had joined a form that was dedicated to 601 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 3: like hating this woman snarkily and her like having any 602 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 3: Like the whole thing was we're not going to harass her, 603 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 3: but you did create a place to go to talk 604 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 3: shit about her. And you know, while you know you 605 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 3: can make different measures of morality, that's not very healthy either, 606 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 3: you know. And there's things, there's stuff I've decided to 607 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 3: do with myself and the show, whether people notice or not, 608 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 3: that has made my life better, like if people noticed 609 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 3: I don't talk shit about Charlemagne and at the Breakfast 610 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 3: club anymore, cause I realized, like part of that is 611 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,479 Speaker 3: either insecurity and jealousy of the fact that their message 612 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 3: is getting out bigger than our platform all that shit. 613 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 3: Part of that is it's in the cultural zeitguys, but 614 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 3: in my contributing to it by sharing the shit, and 615 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 3: then you know, I'm And then the other part was 616 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 3: it don't fucking matter. That's really not that's what they think. 617 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 3: You know, what our shows about what we think, and 618 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 3: that's what people come to listen to. They don't come 619 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 3: to listen to us be like I mean, some people 620 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 3: probably do, but and you know, but get ridmans to 621 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 3: those folks, because I like, if you're listening to me, 622 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 3: to be like, let me tell you why I don't 623 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 3: fuck with Oprah, let me tell you how Steve Harvey 624 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 3: mess stuff for one hundred times, Like that's. 625 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 2: Not really what I want to make my show. I 626 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 2: want my show to be about. 627 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 3: What we say, what we do, the things that we 628 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 3: have to contribute. And that was like things that I 629 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 3: came to these conclusions on my own, you know, And 630 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 3: so now to be here and like reading these things 631 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 3: and be like, Okay, I was making my life healthier 632 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,959 Speaker 3: the whole time, and I never fucking knew it. Like, 633 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 3: my anxiety is pretty much non existent now, you know, 634 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 3: which is for me is big. 635 00:29:58,880 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 2: You know. 636 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 3: There's times where I'm I'm like, I don't want to 637 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 3: go down to this event, I don't want to interact 638 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 3: with this person. I don't wanna you know whatever. And 639 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 3: now it's like I'm chilled, you know. 640 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, And sometimes I think it's just part of our 641 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 4: our our personalities because in my opinion, you were doing 642 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 4: things that was almost considered self cutting, Like I would 643 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 4: never go to a so I like, I like, I 644 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 4: don't give a fuck, Like it's ship that bothers you 645 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,479 Speaker 4: that I'm like, do do, Like I'll just keep trucking, 646 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 4: like like, who gives a fuck about this? You know? 647 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 4: But that's just a difference in our personality. They have 648 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 4: the right to say whatever they want to say, and like, 649 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 4: because I don't go looking, cause if you're looking for something, 650 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 4: you will find it. 651 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. I called it right. I called it emotional cutting. 652 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 3: At the time when I that episode, I was like, 653 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 3: I feel like I'm emotionally cutting myself because I know, 654 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 3: you can't expect one hundred percent uniformity of praise, and 655 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 3: yet here I was hoping to find that, knowing I wouldn't, 656 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 3: and then only concentrating when I didn't find it, and 657 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 3: I found. 658 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 2: Like peace and being like, oh this person doesn't like me. Cool. Cool. 659 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 2: It took me a while to get there, but I'm 660 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 2: fucking here now. 661 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 3: And so now it's like niggas, say what you're gonna say, 662 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 3: make up what you're gonna make up. The people that 663 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 3: like those flying monkey type people will flock to that 664 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 3: shit because they need that person, they. 665 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 2: Need that energy, they need that they need. 666 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 3: To feel that way. But you know what, man, so 667 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 3: much beauty has been around us. We've been supported by it, 668 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 3: Like we don't have to worry about that shit, Like 669 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 3: when I'm not, I'm not. I'm just here to live 670 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 3: my life and be give my honest truth and we 671 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 3: can do anything we fucking want with what we have, 672 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And so we're in a luxury, 673 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 3: luxurious spot and. 674 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 2: I would never lose focus of that. 675 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 3: So it was just kind of interesting to like read 676 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 3: these things, to be going through these things and dealing 677 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 3: with this shit at the same time, and then be like, wait, 678 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 3: I get it now, you know what I'm saying. That's 679 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 3: why I'm reading the book. And I'm not saying I 680 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 3: agree with everything in the book like it's any other opinion. 681 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 2: There's certain shit where I'm like, I don't know about 682 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 2: that one. 683 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 3: But some of these phenomena of like how people act, 684 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 3: how certain personalities, certain punitive things. 685 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 2: That shit is beautiful. 686 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 3: And I do believe in conflict, and I do believe 687 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 3: in the fact that people, especially in our circles or 688 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 3: the circles I was in or whatever, can many times 689 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 3: because we have words overstate harm on purpose because that's 690 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 3: how you get attention. 691 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 2: Agreed, So we you know. 692 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 3: So there's certain things that I've all I mean, we've 693 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 3: done episodes about it, like the one where it's like 694 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 3: you can't wrap the world in bubble wrap because I 695 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 3: think we're talking about trigger warnings and this is years ago, 696 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 3: and I was like, I'm not gonna do them on 697 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 3: our show. And I understand if that means we will 698 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 3: lose from listening, me too. And I'm not doing these 699 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 3: things to purposely offend people. No, not trying to be 700 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 3: a dick about it, but I have to understand that 701 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 3: this is the world. I'm not going to sugarcoat the 702 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 3: world for you, and that'll mean some people will be like, 703 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 3: I need I need a sugarcoat it. You know, I 704 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 3: need that, content want it, I need that. But you know, 705 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 3: sometimes I feel like people want it because you can 706 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 3: have it quote unquote right, and you can demand it, 707 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 3: and therefore you become the good guy. The people who 708 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 3: don't do it becomes the bad guy. And now we 709 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 3: have this I'm the good guy. You're the bad guy. 710 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 3: You didn't do enough, you didn't do and it's like, yeah, 711 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 3: even you know, especially for shit you're gonna watch or 712 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 3: see anyway you're gonna listen to anyway, hey man, that's part. 713 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 2: Of the game. That's part of the risk of life. 714 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 3: You're gonna walk out of the house and be you 715 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 3: know and deal with some shit, some adversity sometimes and 716 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 3: how you deal with that is how is what we 717 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 3: determine makes the value of our lives. 718 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 2: And so you know, like to that so to see 719 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 2: like other people. 720 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 3: Being like, oh, I've been thinking about this and here's 721 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 3: my thoughts on it, and be like okay, and this 722 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 3: person got skin in the game. They're not just some 723 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 3: asshole saying this isn't Bill o'relly you know. 724 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 2: So anyway, I really enjoyed this book. 725 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 4: But before we move on, also something else. When you're 726 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 4: dealing with a person that's a narcissists, particularly if you're 727 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 4: the type of person with a fighting spirit and you 728 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 4: fight like like fighting, you're one of them people, they 729 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,240 Speaker 4: be like, motherfucker, you come over here, I will fuck 730 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 4: you up, you know, because there's some people with that 731 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,240 Speaker 4: type of personality, which is fine, But the thing about 732 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 4: these people, you can't win. It's a lot of times 733 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:22,720 Speaker 4: it's nothing physical you can do. And so those people 734 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 4: have to understand that. Sometimes you got to be like, 735 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,720 Speaker 4: I can't fight you. And that is very very hard 736 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 4: for a person that has a fighting spirit. You lying 737 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 4: on me, bitch, what you said this nigga? What like 738 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 4: like like that fighting spirit flares up because you like 739 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 4: what you ain't gonna do. But you have to get 740 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,720 Speaker 4: to the point to where you realize that some battles 741 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 4: you cannot win and you're taking a lot of energy 742 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 4: and a lot of effort and pouring it into the 743 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 4: person and guess what, you fail for the trap because 744 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 4: that's all they wanted in the first place was your attention. 745 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 3: In the chat doctor Umar Trita, she's when it's people 746 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 3: we don't like, we can pick it out immediately, right, right, 747 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 3: we don't like them, so we go, Yeah, they be 748 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 3: sending people after folks on Twitter. 749 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 2: They be harassing folks. 750 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 3: That's block them all day like they you know, like, 751 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 3: and it's like, well, we don't like him, and we 752 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 3: do like some of the people they target, and so 753 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 3: now we're you know, we want to get involved. 754 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:14,240 Speaker 2: We want and guess. 755 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 3: What they don't do stop ever, none of them have 756 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 3: ever stopped. 757 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:20,320 Speaker 2: They still go on that. 758 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 3: And part of the reason they don'top is because they 759 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 3: always get a reaction, correct, you know, and because people 760 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 3: don't understand that the psychology of a narcissists of control, 761 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 3: they can't help themselves from responding, like people don't notice, 762 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 3: but I don't say it on the show because I mean, 763 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 3: at this point, who gives a fuck. 764 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 2: But people will never stop harassing me online. 765 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 3: Nope, I stopped talking about it, correct, Like I just 766 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,320 Speaker 3: send the shit, delete, send it to spam or whatever, 767 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 3: or you know, delete the voicemail or don't read the review. 768 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 2: Like I don't like. At some point I had to. 769 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,800 Speaker 3: Stop being in turmoil, because my response to them was 770 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:56,840 Speaker 3: about my turmoil. 771 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,879 Speaker 2: It's not about them, you know, like, what the fuck? 772 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 3: And this person on the internet possibly have to say 773 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 3: to me that can affect me. They don't know me, 774 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So these were things that 775 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 3: you know, I think people probably think, oh, you guys 776 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 3: are just the show is so good now that y'all 777 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 3: don't deal with that. 778 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 2: No, it's not content. And I'm not like a dancing 779 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 2: you know, dancing machine. 780 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 3: You just hit the button and all of a sudden, 781 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,840 Speaker 3: I started jukeboxing because hey man, you don't get to 782 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 3: put a quarter in with negativity. You want to say 783 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 3: something positive. You want to interact with us with respect. 784 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 3: You want to come to us, you know, in a 785 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 3: mutual playing field. No problem. But I think it's hard 786 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 3: because this is something we had to learn, especially me, 787 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,359 Speaker 3: had to learn over time. People have watched, if they 788 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,279 Speaker 3: listened to the show, they watched me learn this right. 789 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 3: And I haven't patted myself on the back floor or 790 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,319 Speaker 3: told people like every step of the way. 791 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 2: There has been decisions I may want like not doing 792 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:48,800 Speaker 2: that no more. It's not healthy. 793 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 3: It's not good for me, you know, and it's a 794 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 3: luxury to be able to have that. And it's also 795 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 3: stages of progress. There's other podcasts I listened to and 796 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 3: they're either younger, or they just have a different mentality, 797 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 3: or they haven't quote unquote made it to a level 798 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:05,359 Speaker 3: yet where they're starting to. 799 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 4: Get or they hadn't dealt with certain things. 800 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I listened to how they think, and I go, damn, 801 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:10,399 Speaker 3: I used to think that way. 802 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,400 Speaker 4: And you and some of them, I've actually seen growth, 803 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 4: Like some people they do their podcast and if they're 804 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 4: actually a completely different podcast, yes. 805 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 3: And I love that me too. I love growth for them, 806 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,840 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. I mean a big example 807 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,319 Speaker 3: that everybody knows and obviously no shade, but the Read 808 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,439 Speaker 3: when it started to where the read is now they're 809 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,839 Speaker 3: on TV, Like that's been to me, that's a beautiful growth. 810 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 3: I know many of their fans. 811 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 2: That hate on that, Yes, they've turned. 812 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:40,880 Speaker 3: Oh y'all used to go in there and say so 813 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 3: and so is this and lah blah blah, and it's like, well, 814 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 3: now we might be in a room with this person. 815 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,719 Speaker 3: Come on now, we might need want them to have 816 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 3: a guest the interview on on our show like we 817 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,840 Speaker 3: can't just be out here saying willy nilly shit just 818 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 3: to get the reaction for y'all to high five each other, 819 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,279 Speaker 3: knowing that there's actual consequences and they now know what 820 00:37:58,320 --> 00:37:59,320 Speaker 3: it's like to be harassed. 821 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 2: They now know what it's like to be on the 822 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 2: other side of that shit. 823 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,240 Speaker 3: So like the toning down to them is actually maturity 824 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 3: and growth. They talk about going to therapy, they talk 825 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:11,239 Speaker 3: about mental health, they do, Like who would down these things? 826 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,319 Speaker 3: But there are people that down these things because they're 827 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 3: not as entertaining anymore to them, you know what I'm saying, 828 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 3: Like I was here for the mess Oh, y'all not 829 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,440 Speaker 3: gonna be as messy as you used to be. 830 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 2: Fuck this, y'all, donun change blah blah blah. 831 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:24,920 Speaker 3: But they don't care about the effects that would have. 832 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 3: Don't care if you're in Crystal's mental health. They don't 833 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,320 Speaker 3: care how that would happen their actual life. When I 834 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,359 Speaker 3: gotta go to fucking Apple Radio and I've been shit 835 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,399 Speaker 3: talking uh Nicki Minaj all day, you. 836 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:34,799 Speaker 2: Know what I mean? 837 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 3: Like, that's a real fucking consequence to this that you 838 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 3: and podcast Land as a listener don't have to deal. 839 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 4: With nope and nope and and the thing is about 840 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:47,240 Speaker 4: the messiness that we've come up before. The average person 841 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:49,840 Speaker 4: does not give a fuck about you falling out with 842 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,360 Speaker 4: a narcissist. The average person, regardless of where they are, 843 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 4: are gonna sit back and just watch the ship and 844 00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,319 Speaker 4: just watch the mess They're not gonna pick sides. They 845 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 4: gonna keep friends with both, They're gonna keep associated with both. 846 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,360 Speaker 4: And people's opinions and views are not going to change. 847 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 4: And once you understand that, you will pick and choose 848 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,279 Speaker 4: your fights wisely. There are some fights that are not 849 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,360 Speaker 4: worth it because the end result is nothing changed. 850 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,440 Speaker 2: There's also a shit ton of. 851 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 3: Ego and the idea that you think you can decipher 852 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 3: a conflict from fucking you know, on the internet thousands 853 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:26,320 Speaker 3: of miles away. 854 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,279 Speaker 2: Right. I don't have that kind of ego, some of 855 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:29,760 Speaker 2: you niggas. 856 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,360 Speaker 3: I've sat at the table with people that have a 857 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 3: problem with other folks and been like, I don't know 858 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,719 Speaker 3: their side of this, and I'm sure they have a 859 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 3: version of this event too. You know, iOS, I support you. 860 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,760 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna shit on you. You you know what I'm saying. 861 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,399 Speaker 3: Wishing nothing for the best, but I'm gonna be real 862 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 3: with you. I hope y'all resolve it. And I don't 863 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,880 Speaker 3: want to say anything too bad because let's be frank, 864 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:51,960 Speaker 3: if y'all resolve it, now, I'm a nigga that talked 865 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,799 Speaker 3: out that shit, right, you know what I mean? Like, 866 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,759 Speaker 3: but and this is the last thing I'll say. But 867 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 3: every single time that I've even been warned about a 868 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:05,520 Speaker 3: narcissistic person or this person's blah blah blah, every single time, 869 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 3: pretty much they confirm the shit with their behavior. And 870 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,839 Speaker 3: that's the saddest part because narcissm is not something that 871 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 3: you can't even go to. 872 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 2: Therapy for it. 873 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 3: It's just it's either in you or it's not like 874 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,440 Speaker 3: they don't have emotions. They fake emotions, right, you know that. 875 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,239 Speaker 3: You know, it's like it's fucking weird. Like you can 876 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 3: watch the patterns happen. They say things that contradict other things, 877 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 3: and they because it's about what happens in the moment, 878 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 3: they aren't they aren't capable of stopping this behavior. So 879 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 3: it's you know, like with that kind of shit, it's 880 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,440 Speaker 3: just sad to see. And then also because of the 881 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 3: culture of a lot of people, we now have this 882 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,239 Speaker 3: thing where it's like if you're the victim, you're the 883 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,840 Speaker 3: victor in a lot of these circles because we've switched 884 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 3: the power dynamics, but it's still a power dynamic at 885 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 3: play that, you know, the same way people get wrongfully convicted. 886 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:59,359 Speaker 3: You can wrongfully support somebody or you can wrongfully take 887 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,319 Speaker 3: someone else down out and shunning them and shit. And 888 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 3: I think it's interesting to see the tactics that people 889 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 3: say are conflict resolution when they're not, you. 890 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:08,360 Speaker 2: Know, correct. 891 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 4: And there's also one of those things where if you're 892 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 4: the type of person to be like, am I wrong, 893 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 4: that means that you're willing to seek help. And but 894 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:22,960 Speaker 4: if you're the type of person that's like, I don't 895 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 4: need no help, I'm right, I don't need no therapy. 896 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:27,839 Speaker 4: Don't talk to me. No, I'm not going to get 897 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:28,279 Speaker 4: no help. 898 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:28,640 Speaker 2: Y'all. 899 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,080 Speaker 4: Don't know what y'all talking about, y'all. 900 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 3: But you know, it's funny they'll say that and then 901 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 3: post a and then within the next moment be like, 902 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:41,239 Speaker 3: I need money, I need help. I'm so sad and depressed. 903 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:43,719 Speaker 3: Then they'll get money, and then the next one they'll 904 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,239 Speaker 3: be like, I'm so angry fuck this. I don't need 905 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 3: no people you know, well, you maybe need therapy. I'm 906 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 3: already fixed. I'm already over it. Later on I want therapy. 907 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 3: I just you know, I can't like I've. 908 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:55,160 Speaker 2: Seen this shit. 909 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,240 Speaker 4: Yes, it's like, oh. 910 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,400 Speaker 3: My like this and it's all for these people that 911 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,440 Speaker 3: are you know, gonna put them on a pedestal and 912 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 3: feed that ego. 913 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,400 Speaker 4: So oh, just around looking at the mess. 914 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 2: YEP anyway back to our regular schedule program. Sorry, I 915 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 2: just that was just a word on my chest. 916 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:15,160 Speaker 3: And if you guys dealing with it, like, because because 917 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 3: I've really been trying to keep this shit to myself, 918 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,319 Speaker 3: I really been try not talking about it. But because 919 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 3: it's narcissism, you're not supposed to fucking like acknowledge these 920 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:24,920 Speaker 3: people and they're gonna do what they do anyway, So 921 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,239 Speaker 3: you know, be yourself, be authentic. But the thing that 922 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 3: for me that really was like and this is like 923 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,040 Speaker 3: I said, years ordeals, But the thing for me that 924 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,439 Speaker 3: really was like affirming was like I shared a couple 925 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,279 Speaker 3: of these articles and people started being like, oh, I've 926 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,239 Speaker 3: dealt with this, or I've seen this, or I work 927 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,399 Speaker 3: in a field where this is one of the main 928 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:49,719 Speaker 3: issues we have to deal with and it's like, yeah, like, oh, 929 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,560 Speaker 3: this is real. You didn't make this up. You're not crazy, 930 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:54,920 Speaker 3: you know. And that's the whole thing is they're trying 931 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 3: to attack your reality, so you think you're crazy and 932 00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,200 Speaker 3: you think you're an asshole unless you do exactly what 933 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,360 Speaker 3: they tell you to do and do their kite like 934 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,560 Speaker 3: bidding for them, and if not, then they attack you. 935 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:04,839 Speaker 2: Right. 936 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 4: And it's also one of the things too for a 937 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,359 Speaker 4: lot of people, particularly if you've never dealt with this 938 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,480 Speaker 4: before and you can't pin it, but you just know 939 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:17,160 Speaker 4: the behavior is abnormal. That's when, excuse me, you feel 940 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:18,960 Speaker 4: like you're alone and you don't want to ship. And 941 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:20,919 Speaker 4: when you do share with people who have never dealt 942 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,719 Speaker 4: with this, they're gonna be like that ain't real. Something wrong, 943 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 4: Like I didn't think it was real, right, every everybody, 944 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 4: Because I've seen people that have deal with narcissis talk 945 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 4: to other people who've never never responsor was like, oh, 946 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,600 Speaker 4: you've never dealt with this before because you because most 947 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,399 Speaker 4: people just dismissed that, like like that shit has made up. 948 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,279 Speaker 3: And online gives people the ability to create community, so 949 00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,880 Speaker 3: you can create community around someone being a narcissist. 950 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,239 Speaker 2: You can create communities that enable people and shit. 951 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,560 Speaker 3: And it's like sad to know, because if the art 952 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,839 Speaker 3: right can happen, you're telling me that that's the only 953 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:53,800 Speaker 3: bad thing on the Internet. 954 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:56,920 Speaker 2: People get to create their own reality, you know. 955 00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 3: Like friend talks about being in a fucking form that 956 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,879 Speaker 3: was dedicated to hating on this woman, Like that's a thing. 957 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,520 Speaker 3: They created a community of hating this woman. I think 958 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 3: she shut down her comments on YouTube, and then it 959 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,680 Speaker 3: was like, well, we need someone to talk about her, 960 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,000 Speaker 3: but she shut them down, for motherfucker probably shut them 961 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,960 Speaker 3: down because of the attention in the harassment, and so 962 00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:17,960 Speaker 3: then it's like, well, well we won't harass her, but 963 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 3: we're gonna take the negativity and build a community off 964 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:21,480 Speaker 3: of that. 965 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,200 Speaker 2: And the community's been on negativity. Are never mind? Bob, 966 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,359 Speaker 2: All right, let's get to this, getting to the money 967 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:35,040 Speaker 2: head depression. 968 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 3: Today's a new day, new day, new pay uh Solanas 969 00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:49,520 Speaker 3: with the recurrent thank you justin Jay, we appreciate you 970 00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:55,160 Speaker 3: as well. Thank you so much, payment loading email. We 971 00:44:55,239 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 3: appreciate loading. Candid h Thank you very much. Candice Nerves 972 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 3: and Luxury those luxurious ass nerds outside a podcast Chrishelle 973 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,879 Speaker 3: the Ben Simmons hate of the show, Asian d Yes 974 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,360 Speaker 3: Asia D with the recurrent donation. 975 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:16,160 Speaker 2: We appreciate you as well. Yvonne M. Thank you very much, 976 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:20,960 Speaker 2: Yvonne for coming through for you the fam. Adam S. 977 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 2: Thank you, Adam. We appreciate you. An E P and 978 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:29,640 Speaker 2: it are you okay? I hope y'all okay, you've been 979 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:34,560 Speaker 2: hit by smooth criminal. Tom W. Michael S. Thank you, Mike, 980 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:41,440 Speaker 2: Benjamin C. Laura E. Thank you very much. Laura appreciate you. 981 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:48,360 Speaker 2: Nicholas Z, Noel W, Miss Hathaway, Bo Money. 982 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,439 Speaker 3: Jones of the Evening Jones and the Right Time and 983 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,399 Speaker 3: high Noon. The man's everywhere. Okay, you're doing he's doing 984 00:45:55,400 --> 00:46:00,279 Speaker 3: big things. Riada make C Pete B. We're not hate 985 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:04,839 Speaker 3: m Olivia from Chicago. Hannah gives us a one time note. 986 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,000 Speaker 3: She says, thanks Rod and Caring for your massive contribution 987 00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:09,200 Speaker 3: to cultural discourse. 988 00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,360 Speaker 2: Hey, we're just trying to be honest and be ourself. 989 00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:17,080 Speaker 2: David from Brooklyn, Black Film Press, Comics and that's everybody. 990 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:27,440 Speaker 2: Thank you. I can explain. 991 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,600 Speaker 3: Fum having like a shower, and I. 992 00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:37,759 Speaker 2: Know we would hurt, y'all. I smile, even though it 993 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:39,040 Speaker 2: hurts me. God smile. 994 00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:44,640 Speaker 3: I know God is working, so smile even though he 995 00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,360 Speaker 3: for a while, I smile. 996 00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:52,480 Speaker 2: Smile. It's so hard to look up when you look down. 997 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,800 Speaker 2: I sure would hate to see you give up. Now, 998 00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:08,200 Speaker 2: you look so much better when you smile. Can you 999 00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:18,759 Speaker 2: just smile? Oh me, whatever you're going through for me, 1000 00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:27,800 Speaker 2: can you just smile for me? And the people say. 1001 00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:33,160 Speaker 3: You were so much better when you all right, all right, 1002 00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:34,400 Speaker 3: let's get into the money. 1003 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:41,880 Speaker 2: I'm sorry the reviews, Uh, this is money too. Southern cousins. 1004 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:45,600 Speaker 3: I wished I had, Glenn b Ka says, I immigrated 1005 00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,960 Speaker 3: to the United States as a child from a small 1006 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:51,480 Speaker 3: country in Africa, so almost all my extended family is 1007 00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:55,120 Speaker 3: still back on the continent. Ever since my mother and 1008 00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,719 Speaker 3: I arrived and eventually became you as citizens. 1009 00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:01,399 Speaker 2: I wished. I wished I had ignowed, knowledgeable, funny and. 1010 00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,840 Speaker 3: Just playing cool American cousins who could break down the 1011 00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,600 Speaker 3: current events from an intelligent black perspective for me. I 1012 00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,719 Speaker 3: found those cousins when I subscribe to the Blackoutist podcast. 1013 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:13,960 Speaker 2: I went to the family cookout today and saw some 1014 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:14,600 Speaker 2: of my cousins. 1015 00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,759 Speaker 3: I know Rod and Karen lead the kind of and 1016 00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:19,760 Speaker 3: I didn't take no selfish So did it happen? 1017 00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:20,680 Speaker 2: I don't know. 1018 00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,600 Speaker 4: I don't know if a tree following nobody around, did 1019 00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:24,359 Speaker 4: it actually fall? 1020 00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:26,759 Speaker 3: If it's not, Graham did it was an event that 1021 00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:27,680 Speaker 3: took place in America. 1022 00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:29,040 Speaker 2: It was all in my mind. 1023 00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,640 Speaker 3: Rodick Caren Lee lead the kind of black cultural conversations 1024 00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:36,640 Speaker 3: I'm always glad I heard, especially when the subjects are hard. 1025 00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:38,000 Speaker 2: Thank you, Cuz, thank. 1026 00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:38,600 Speaker 4: You, thank you. 1027 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:44,480 Speaker 3: Kenny jack says, your perspectives give me hope. I work 1028 00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,160 Speaker 3: in a mental health clinic and clerical I asked a 1029 00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,680 Speaker 3: counselor what she thought if I wanted to become a 1030 00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,279 Speaker 3: social worker. She encouraged me. I say that to say, 1031 00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,759 Speaker 3: your perspective fills me with light. It makes me feel 1032 00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,319 Speaker 3: okay when I forgive those who wronged me. It makes 1033 00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:00,279 Speaker 3: me feel comfortable with helping people who sentiment sometimes. 1034 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:00,680 Speaker 2: Ushed on me. 1035 00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,799 Speaker 3: Man, listen, it makes me consider how I can make 1036 00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,640 Speaker 3: a bigger impact. Social work may become my field in 1037 00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:07,400 Speaker 3: the near future. 1038 00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:11,600 Speaker 2: Thank y'all. Kenny Jackson from Natural Tochaz. I think that's 1039 00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:12,879 Speaker 2: how it's pronounced. Thank you. 1040 00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,759 Speaker 4: Listen, Yeah, because that's work that needs to be done 1041 00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:20,760 Speaker 4: and a lot of times forgiving and forgiveness and growing 1042 00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:24,800 Speaker 4: and growth. In my opinion, that makes you a better person. 1043 00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,399 Speaker 4: You know, some some people think that's a character flow. 1044 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,840 Speaker 4: I don't, all right, you know, I shout through guys. 1045 00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:31,680 Speaker 2: I don't. 1046 00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,680 Speaker 3: Especially like now when we can build communities that support 1047 00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,479 Speaker 3: us no matter what we decide, and I think that's 1048 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:44,839 Speaker 3: a It's scary because listen, I'm telling you man, we're 1049 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:48,400 Speaker 3: gonna look back on the Internet and social media and 1050 00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,960 Speaker 3: we're going to discover some things at some point about 1051 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:56,360 Speaker 3: the way that it is exacerbated certain mental health issues, 1052 00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,759 Speaker 3: the way that it is depressed some of us it is, 1053 00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,840 Speaker 3: some of us angry, the way that it has changed 1054 00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:06,799 Speaker 3: some of the way we communicate with each other. At 1055 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,840 Speaker 3: some point that will be discussed. It's been some positive 1056 00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,440 Speaker 3: things too. This is not just all of this is negative, 1057 00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,200 Speaker 3: but we haven't really had enough studies done on it 1058 00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,920 Speaker 3: because it's still a fairly new, unregulated thing. 1059 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,479 Speaker 2: Imagine this, How many people do you. 1060 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:24,280 Speaker 3: Know who talk cold cash shit about Facebook? 1061 00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,359 Speaker 2: This week? How many of you do you know that you. 1062 00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,719 Speaker 3: Watched they were on Twitter talking about it, which is 1063 00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:31,080 Speaker 3: also supposed to assess pool. 1064 00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:32,640 Speaker 2: They were on Facebook talking about it. 1065 00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,520 Speaker 3: They share clips of this dude being dressed down from 1066 00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:40,800 Speaker 3: Congress women and stuff on Facebook while being like Facebook 1067 00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,400 Speaker 3: is terrible, it fucking ruined the election. How many of 1068 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:47,520 Speaker 3: them deleted their Facebook? How many of them are gonna 1069 00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,920 Speaker 3: log right back on the Facebook because it's addictive and 1070 00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:54,120 Speaker 3: they know what the fuck they're doing, and they they've 1071 00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,960 Speaker 3: done studies that say, like, we know this shit is 1072 00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:58,920 Speaker 3: fucking with people, and we know how to fuck with 1073 00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,120 Speaker 3: your brain, how to track you, we know how to 1074 00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,200 Speaker 3: do this, we know how to bring up and we 1075 00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:04,719 Speaker 3: can make you impost by things. 1076 00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:06,359 Speaker 2: We know what we're doing. 1077 00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,759 Speaker 3: And yet somehow we don't think this is changing us 1078 00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:13,239 Speaker 3: or by or affecting us or people or everyone can 1079 00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:17,120 Speaker 3: handle this, Like everybody is on this on an even 1080 00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:21,040 Speaker 3: from playing field, No one has more anxiety than other 1081 00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,400 Speaker 3: people about it. That kind of shit, you know, seeing 1082 00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,400 Speaker 3: scrolling videos of instant play, black death and shit is 1083 00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:28,640 Speaker 3: no effect on none. 1084 00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,319 Speaker 2: Of us, you know what I'm saying, Like it's just 1085 00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:33,719 Speaker 2: something to think about, you know. 1086 00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:38,920 Speaker 3: So yeah, and I appreciate you doing the kind of 1087 00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,080 Speaker 3: work that you're doing, and I'm glad to know that. 1088 00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:44,160 Speaker 3: I feel like people that work in those fields are 1089 00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:48,680 Speaker 3: people that need to understand forgiveness, the value of it, 1090 00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:53,760 Speaker 3: and the value of restorative restorative justice, and the value 1091 00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:58,640 Speaker 3: of conflict resolution. Not enough people promote that anymore. You know, 1092 00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,359 Speaker 3: it's like it's corny now, But like, how the fuck 1093 00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,919 Speaker 3: you gonna work in a system where so many people 1094 00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,440 Speaker 3: you're working with gonna are gonna be people that have 1095 00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:08,280 Speaker 3: harmed themselves harmed other people. 1096 00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:12,880 Speaker 2: We can't just trash everybody. 1097 00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,960 Speaker 3: You know, We can't just you know, like yeah, and 1098 00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,239 Speaker 3: it's not gonna be easy a easy process, and it's 1099 00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:17,759 Speaker 3: not something that can take you can take care of it. 1100 00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:18,440 Speaker 2: One hundred and. 1101 00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,160 Speaker 3: Forty characters like these are real people, were real things, 1102 00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,440 Speaker 3: And if our show inspired somebody to like have that 1103 00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:24,800 Speaker 3: type of attitude, man, that's. 1104 00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:26,160 Speaker 2: What we're here for. Straight up. 1105 00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:30,359 Speaker 3: Love is freaking showed by Jarviy seven seven seven. Come 1106 00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:33,800 Speaker 3: to the pod for Game of Throne, stay for everything else. 1107 00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,040 Speaker 3: We know we a bit of an everything else show. 1108 00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,200 Speaker 3: The feedback shows are bombed, and I honestly thought I 1109 00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:43,680 Speaker 3: wouldn't like them. I get so mad when my talkative 1110 00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:45,960 Speaker 3: coworkers come up and I'm listening to y'all. The blackoutiss 1111 00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,120 Speaker 3: has the best guess and I've been getting my life 1112 00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:49,600 Speaker 3: on the Walk of Day every cast and I don't 1113 00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:50,359 Speaker 3: even watch the show. 1114 00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:51,640 Speaker 2: Lol, It's crazy. 1115 00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,160 Speaker 3: I feel like roder Carroon challenge listeners to think for 1116 00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,759 Speaker 3: themselves on like other podcasts that promote a sort of 1117 00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:00,440 Speaker 3: group thing. Man, you know that's circular thing thinking too, 1118 00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,480 Speaker 3: because like and this is you know, because I create 1119 00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:05,480 Speaker 3: a podcast for a living and I listen to a lot, 1120 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:11,000 Speaker 3: I don't know if it's them promoting the group think 1121 00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,600 Speaker 3: or they're in communities that have so much of the 1122 00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:19,040 Speaker 3: like uniformity of opinion and it's not really allowed for 1123 00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:22,200 Speaker 3: you to question or feel a different way. So you 1124 00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:24,799 Speaker 3: almost have to be that way because like what am I? 1125 00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,239 Speaker 3: Because a lot of podcasts don't have listeners like as 1126 00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:29,680 Speaker 3: many of us, So it's like, what if I say 1127 00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:32,200 Speaker 3: the thing that's gonna make the few people that fuck 1128 00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,279 Speaker 3: with me stop fucking with me or not listen to me, 1129 00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,160 Speaker 3: And it's like they become stuck with They're afraid to 1130 00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:39,400 Speaker 3: take a chance to say the unpopular thing or to 1131 00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:43,319 Speaker 3: even like attack something with nuance because the wave is 1132 00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:47,840 Speaker 3: we're all clowning Kanye's interview right now, so they're afraid 1133 00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:49,520 Speaker 3: to come on a podcast and be like this dude 1134 00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,960 Speaker 3: might not be in a fucking mentally healthy place, you 1135 00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,120 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like we don't. We can talk 1136 00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:58,279 Speaker 3: about it here, but that's the way we always been. 1137 00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,000 Speaker 3: But imagine if you start this late, you look at 1138 00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,680 Speaker 3: other people's communities, you just want what they have. Then 1139 00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,239 Speaker 3: you kind of fold into what they do. You know, 1140 00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:09,280 Speaker 3: their shows, And I'm not knocking these shows. It's actually 1141 00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,120 Speaker 3: kind of flattering to me. There's shows that have been 1142 00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:12,960 Speaker 3: inspired by us, and they start their show and their 1143 00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,360 Speaker 3: shows kind of sound like us, and then they branch 1144 00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:18,239 Speaker 3: out into different opinions and stuff like that and grow. 1145 00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:20,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can see it happen. Like I said, I 1146 00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:21,760 Speaker 2: think it's wonderful. 1147 00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,560 Speaker 3: But yeah, like who knows if it's chicken or egg 1148 00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:26,359 Speaker 3: with that, they might just be trying not to get 1149 00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:29,160 Speaker 3: quote unquote canceled, And by canceled, I mean piss off 1150 00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:32,640 Speaker 3: the few people that fuck with them. I feel like 1151 00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:34,680 Speaker 3: I can listen to this podcasts and either walk away 1152 00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:36,879 Speaker 3: more informed or more confident of what I already thought. Man, 1153 00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:38,680 Speaker 3: I love it, Keep up, keep it up, you two. 1154 00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,080 Speaker 3: That's my five on the Jarvist. Thank you, thank you. 1155 00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:43,560 Speaker 3: We take the five Yeah, and like I said, man, 1156 00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:47,120 Speaker 3: it's not about dictating down the people are paying. 1157 00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:50,680 Speaker 2: We just like to talk about the thought processes. Uh. 1158 00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:52,520 Speaker 3: And I love that you like the feedback show. I 1159 00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,239 Speaker 3: always feel like these are the shows that people sleep on. 1160 00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:57,000 Speaker 3: But when I looked up the numbers the other week, 1161 00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:58,640 Speaker 3: I was like, damn, people listen to this too. 1162 00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:00,919 Speaker 2: It used to be the time when it wasn't true. 1163 00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:02,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, it used to be a town where people was 1164 00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:03,560 Speaker 4: like that feedback shopping. 1165 00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:06,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they missed ound some good conversations when they 1166 00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:09,200 Speaker 3: skipped this because like that, I would have probably read 1167 00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:12,919 Speaker 3: that narciss out article tomorrow and now I'm probably not gonna. 1168 00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:13,960 Speaker 2: I don't know, do I need to read it. 1169 00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,960 Speaker 3: We kind of talked about it right anyway. I love 1170 00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:20,279 Speaker 3: the show. Frizzy Carl says. Five Stars started with Game 1171 00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:22,360 Speaker 3: of Throngs. We cast and stayed for the last insights. 1172 00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,800 Speaker 3: You both are very inspiring and love of different segments. 1173 00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:26,680 Speaker 3: I still can't get over the fact that there are 1174 00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:28,360 Speaker 3: so many stories or fools of swords. 1175 00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,000 Speaker 4: A lot of people are shot by that. It's it's 1176 00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,120 Speaker 4: it's the English, endless dark old baby. 1177 00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. Let me tell you something fritzy cars. 1178 00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:41,920 Speaker 3: I almost made it, just said, let's just do an 1179 00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,479 Speaker 3: episode and nothing but the sword stories to get them 1180 00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,960 Speaker 3: to finally wrap them up, because there's so many as 1181 00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:48,759 Speaker 3: have been down for that. 1182 00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:49,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1183 00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:50,920 Speaker 3: I almost did it, but then I was like, the 1184 00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:54,440 Speaker 3: sword stories are among the most depressing part of the show. 1185 00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:56,080 Speaker 2: I say, you know, I don't know if I can 1186 00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:56,520 Speaker 2: make it through. 1187 00:55:58,200 --> 00:55:58,399 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1188 00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,200 Speaker 3: By by some point were just gonna be laughing the 1189 00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:01,880 Speaker 3: people cutting their mama's heads off and ship and I 1190 00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:04,239 Speaker 3: don't know that that's we've all been canceled enough. 1191 00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:08,160 Speaker 4: We don't canceled lost their fingers. Yeah, I don't know 1192 00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:11,280 Speaker 4: if y'all ready for that that got stabbed in the eye, nigga, 1193 00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:12,080 Speaker 4: what is happening? 1194 00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, we've been canceled enough times for not being sensitive 1195 00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:18,680 Speaker 3: enough of these stories, so let's uh, let's not. 1196 00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:21,799 Speaker 4: And then we would get the letter of I who 1197 00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:23,000 Speaker 4: have been cut by a sword. 1198 00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:26,239 Speaker 2: So yeah, right right, that was my cousin to cut 1199 00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:29,879 Speaker 2: by that sword. Oh damn, you know, So all right, 1200 00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:30,759 Speaker 2: let's get it to the. 1201 00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:34,640 Speaker 4: It's true, right, because because we would be on flat 1202 00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:35,480 Speaker 4: joke time. 1203 00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:37,720 Speaker 2: We have had someone mad about everything. 1204 00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:42,239 Speaker 4: Everything from my voices to the way we look like y'all. 1205 00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:43,959 Speaker 2: Just don't understand. Imagine that we was trying to piss 1206 00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:44,479 Speaker 2: people off. 1207 00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:47,120 Speaker 4: What imagine if that was the whole purpose. 1208 00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:49,880 Speaker 2: We had comments on the on the website. 1209 00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,839 Speaker 3: Fight for Your Joy was a feedback show, Ama said, 1210 00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:54,960 Speaker 3: such a great feedback episode, And I agree, folks are 1211 00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,040 Speaker 3: missing out if they're not listening to the feedback show. 1212 00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:01,200 Speaker 3: I also agree with the email said sing about welfare checks. 1213 00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:04,719 Speaker 3: It irked me seeing not welfare physical like, not the 1214 00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:08,359 Speaker 3: welfare check like money. She's talking about checking on people's welfare, right, 1215 00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:11,800 Speaker 3: it irked me. Seeing means calling the man a coward 1216 00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:15,080 Speaker 3: for not coming over there himself. Yeah, man, social media, Man, 1217 00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:18,760 Speaker 3: it's not good moments like that when people snap to 1218 00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:22,280 Speaker 3: conclusions and shit, it's just not it's not healthy. Man, 1219 00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:26,000 Speaker 3: I tap out, like we're experiencing emotions in real time. 1220 00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:29,080 Speaker 2: Man, But so do you putting this shit out here forever? Man? 1221 00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:31,560 Speaker 3: Or saying don't call the police to check on me. 1222 00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:34,480 Speaker 3: It's ridiculous and just giving it into this toxic system 1223 00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:36,640 Speaker 3: and doesn't help the real issue or the way these 1224 00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:39,600 Speaker 3: police are trained when dealing with black people, right, Like 1225 00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:43,200 Speaker 3: the police should have to be accountable for the violence 1226 00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:48,600 Speaker 3: that they commit. That doesn't mean that the idea of 1227 00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:53,200 Speaker 3: like an authority figure being the one to welfare check 1228 00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:57,400 Speaker 3: somebody is bad, right, someone that we can trust in 1229 00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,520 Speaker 3: the community that's been vetted. That's not bad. And people 1230 00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:03,280 Speaker 3: honestly aren't doing that on their owns. You see what 1231 00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:07,120 Speaker 3: happens when people are able to form communities online them, 1232 00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:10,200 Speaker 3: shit's gonna be good. People be picking all kinds of 1233 00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:14,680 Speaker 3: weird as leaders and rules and and harassment tactics and 1234 00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:17,360 Speaker 3: shit like that. Like, you know, you can't always just 1235 00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:20,080 Speaker 3: depend on everybody, like in the neighborhood to figure out 1236 00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,800 Speaker 3: George Zmon's on Neighborhood Watch, like you can't figure it 1237 00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:27,160 Speaker 3: all out, and sometimes you do need if it knock 1238 00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:31,560 Speaker 3: on wood. But in a in a working society, the 1239 00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:34,480 Speaker 3: idea isn't bad, you know. So it's not like he 1240 00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:36,680 Speaker 3: called that he had no reason to think those police 1241 00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:39,800 Speaker 3: would kill that innocent woman. Agreed, And he saw a 1242 00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:42,760 Speaker 3: door open in the middle of the night at his 1243 00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,640 Speaker 3: neighbors who he knew an older woman lived there, and 1244 00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:49,800 Speaker 3: then the woman who got shot lived there, like to 1245 00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:50,520 Speaker 3: put that. 1246 00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:52,000 Speaker 2: On him, and so it's just wrong. 1247 00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:55,680 Speaker 3: Man. I really wish, I really wish people would think 1248 00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:57,440 Speaker 3: for a second before they put stuff like that in 1249 00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:59,920 Speaker 3: the universe. If you would have gone over there, he 1250 00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,439 Speaker 3: might have put himself in danger in a number of ways. Yeah, 1251 00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:06,600 Speaker 3: what if it is a robbery? What you know what 1252 00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:09,320 Speaker 3: I'm saying, What if it's Texas, she mistakes you for 1253 00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:12,080 Speaker 3: a truder? You know, Like people are bringing up the 1254 00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:13,880 Speaker 3: fact that she possibly had the gun pointed at the 1255 00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:15,800 Speaker 3: police officer. I don't know if that's true, but they're 1256 00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:19,040 Speaker 3: pointing that out, and I'm like, so if he would 1257 00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:21,520 Speaker 3: have just walked through the front door, like hey, everything 1258 00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:23,360 Speaker 3: alright in here, and she and she shot him in 1259 00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:25,160 Speaker 3: the chest, we might be talking about a different story 1260 00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:27,920 Speaker 3: right now and we would all be like that man 1261 00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:31,400 Speaker 3: should not have been in her house. If fucking men night, 1262 00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:32,880 Speaker 3: I don't give a fuck of the door was open. 1263 00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:34,760 Speaker 3: You know, what was he even doing there? Because you 1264 00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:36,040 Speaker 3: know what, we wouldn't have got his side of the 1265 00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:38,200 Speaker 3: story if he got killed, All right, what was he 1266 00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:40,640 Speaker 3: doing there? Some of the fairies, He's gonna steal some shit? 1267 00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:43,400 Speaker 3: You know, men are trash hass tag Like it would 1268 00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:46,320 Speaker 3: have been a different ways it was taken. It's it's 1269 00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:48,120 Speaker 3: just not healthy for us to be like putting this 1270 00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:50,320 Speaker 3: shit out here immediate in the aftermath of stuff. It's 1271 00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:51,800 Speaker 3: why we wait to talk about some of the stuff 1272 00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:54,120 Speaker 3: on the show or when we talk about it, we 1273 00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:57,640 Speaker 3: just like, I don't have all the answers. I don't know, uh, 1274 00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:01,040 Speaker 3: but yeah, I'm glad to have three of my neighbor's numbers. 1275 01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:03,600 Speaker 2: So when something does go down, we call each other. 1276 01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:05,520 Speaker 3: But even that doesn't solve a problem with black people 1277 01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:07,960 Speaker 3: have to do mental math and risk assessments of it 1278 01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:09,280 Speaker 3: is it worth it to call the police? 1279 01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:10,840 Speaker 2: Love y'all? Mind right? 1280 01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:12,200 Speaker 4: Thank you? 1281 01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:14,000 Speaker 2: You know, and there are times people do use the 1282 01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:15,720 Speaker 2: police as a weapon. Don't get me wrong. 1283 01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:19,919 Speaker 3: We you know it happens, but I just think that's 1284 01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:22,280 Speaker 3: not what that man intended, and it's unfair to do 1285 01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:23,080 Speaker 3: that to him. 1286 01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:25,360 Speaker 2: Have you ever been kicked out of a party? Yes? 1287 01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:25,800 Speaker 2: Or no? 1288 01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:30,040 Speaker 3: Care No people say no, they have not been kicked 1289 01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:33,240 Speaker 3: out of a party, So caring is on that side. 1290 01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:36,080 Speaker 3: Ten percent of people have been kicked out. 1291 01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:36,640 Speaker 2: Of a party. 1292 01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:40,120 Speaker 4: I normally leave like yeah, and it's not even leave 1293 01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:41,760 Speaker 4: like we don't fall out about okay, time to go, 1294 01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:45,560 Speaker 4: like m No, I've never been kicked out. 1295 01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:47,959 Speaker 2: I've been kicked out of party. 1296 01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:50,080 Speaker 4: Yes, you have have. 1297 01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:52,920 Speaker 2: I got kicked out of a party once. 1298 01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:59,360 Speaker 3: In college. We had a homecoming jam or something like that, 1299 01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:06,640 Speaker 3: and I got real, real, real, real drunk, and I 1300 01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:09,720 Speaker 3: was with me and some of my friends were hackling 1301 01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:14,800 Speaker 3: the comedians really badly. It was not a good scene, 1302 01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:18,920 Speaker 3: and uh Favuel State decided they could no longer tolerate 1303 01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:24,400 Speaker 3: our foolishness and kicked us out of the party. And 1304 01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:27,720 Speaker 3: even more hypocritically, I snuck back in. 1305 01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:32,440 Speaker 4: So look at the manor you are now. Growth. 1306 01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:34,880 Speaker 3: I didn't go man the Seals and Instagram live because 1307 01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:36,040 Speaker 3: we didn't have Instagram back then. 1308 01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:37,360 Speaker 2: No, I don't think we. 1309 01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,560 Speaker 4: Had cell phones that actually had cameras on them. 1310 01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,400 Speaker 3: I did sneak back in, and I did. I actually dance. 1311 01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:45,160 Speaker 3: That's how drunk I was. I was. 1312 01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:48,600 Speaker 4: That is not your nature. I was like dancing. 1313 01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:49,640 Speaker 2: What the hell? 1314 01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:52,000 Speaker 4: Who who is this man dancing? 1315 01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:56,080 Speaker 3: I didn't don't dance. It was a bad night, guys. 1316 01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:58,880 Speaker 3: But you know what, I'm honest with y'all. I'm offending 1317 01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:02,160 Speaker 3: with our audience. Danny says, I don't get kicked out 1318 01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:05,040 Speaker 3: of parties because I don't go to parties too much. 1319 01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:07,480 Speaker 3: Hash hat introvert hashat ain't no party like an introvert 1320 01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:08,800 Speaker 3: party because the introverty party. 1321 01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:13,680 Speaker 2: Don't start all true. That's my favorite kind of party. 1322 01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:16,240 Speaker 3: Alicia says, I would be interested in hearing why y'all 1323 01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:18,480 Speaker 3: got kicked out for the yes voters. Well, I told 1324 01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:21,720 Speaker 3: you mine. Ama says I'm usually a wildflower. Wildflowers don't 1325 01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:23,560 Speaker 3: get kicked out, but we love seeing others kicked out 1326 01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:26,920 Speaker 3: while watching from the shadows more ha ha ha. And 1327 01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:29,720 Speaker 3: Monique says God put out of Vegas nightclub because a 1328 01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:32,040 Speaker 3: white bouncer confused me with another black woman from our 1329 01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:35,080 Speaker 3: party that was wild, drunk, and belligerent. Granted I believe 1330 01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:36,800 Speaker 3: I was drunk as well, but I'm not gonna take 1331 01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:41,919 Speaker 3: that accountability loss. And I got back in pretty embarrassing though, 1332 01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:44,160 Speaker 3: okame on Ni we used to hang out together. 1333 01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:48,760 Speaker 2: It's not we really shouldn't. Uh, those are very in 1334 01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:50,520 Speaker 2: appropriate things to do. But h. 1335 01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:54,920 Speaker 3: I have been there and it was not not a 1336 01:02:54,960 --> 01:03:06,000 Speaker 3: good job, not a good sight. Nineteen eight liquor then tongs. Yeah, uh, 1337 01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:08,640 Speaker 3: let's see we had four comments. 1338 01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:10,720 Speaker 2: Uh. 1339 01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:13,400 Speaker 3: Sidney says, I almost fell off the treadmill listening to 1340 01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:15,640 Speaker 3: y'all talk about Pastor pusta monster monster. 1341 01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:23,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. Immediately paused and headed to Twitter for the visuals. Hilarious. 1342 01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:25,360 Speaker 2: Thank y'all for this laugh it was much needed. 1343 01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:26,720 Speaker 4: I'm welcome. 1344 01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:29,480 Speaker 3: Mine says, Oh dang, it's ghosts. I thought it was 1345 01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:31,440 Speaker 3: gonna be aliens. Thanks Science Epic. 1346 01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:34,000 Speaker 2: I row. Yeah, they said ghosts make gay people gay. 1347 01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:37,480 Speaker 3: I love how folks say it's science and have no 1348 01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:40,800 Speaker 3: research or studies or examples, all things that actual science 1349 01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:41,280 Speaker 3: relies on. 1350 01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:43,360 Speaker 2: But okay, yeah, you know what. 1351 01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:45,800 Speaker 3: I must be possessed by a ghost of a coffee snob, 1352 01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:48,280 Speaker 3: which is why I hate punk and spice Lata so 1353 01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:50,760 Speaker 3: much and must troll my husband every time he gets one. 1354 01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:54,280 Speaker 3: Blame the ghost, honey. Great episode, y'all. Yeah, what else 1355 01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:54,840 Speaker 3: can ghost do? 1356 01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:56,720 Speaker 2: Like as? That was wrong? 1357 01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:59,200 Speaker 3: When people say, like you talk white, it's like it's 1358 01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:02,520 Speaker 3: actually a white ghost to me, dog, I did not. 1359 01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:04,880 Speaker 2: I didn't know why I talked like that. 1360 01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:06,240 Speaker 4: His name is Jack. 1361 01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:11,360 Speaker 3: Anonyma says five stars. I loved your review of the 1362 01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:15,640 Speaker 3: updated Cinderella. Here for Billy Porter as the fairy Godmother. Yes, 1363 01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:21,640 Speaker 3: when when Cinderella finally tells off her her. 1364 01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:26,160 Speaker 2: Evil stepsisters and stepmother He'll be like, yes, read bitch, 1365 01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:28,959 Speaker 2: read Billy Porter. 1366 01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:33,240 Speaker 3: So good, right, Felix says, brother, listen, I feel for 1367 01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:36,600 Speaker 3: Megan Marco so much. I swear for months on end, 1368 01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:40,160 Speaker 3: I see gossip magazines have her on the front page 1369 01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:42,840 Speaker 3: with increasingly ridiculous rumors about how she made the Royal 1370 01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:45,840 Speaker 3: family mad this week. That's not even talking about the 1371 01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:48,600 Speaker 3: way newspapers are talked about her and how they dunk 1372 01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:49,479 Speaker 3: on black women who. 1373 01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:50,320 Speaker 2: Feel seen by her. 1374 01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:54,280 Speaker 3: Yep, it's been a it's been a microcosm of a 1375 01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:57,600 Speaker 3: bunch of bad ship with Meghan Marko. And like, I 1376 01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:00,400 Speaker 3: just did not even want to get involved in that 1377 01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:03,960 Speaker 3: whole debate about was it okay to like think it 1378 01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:06,760 Speaker 3: was cute that she was getting married to the prince 1379 01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:07,200 Speaker 3: or whatever. 1380 01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:10,040 Speaker 2: I just a duke whatever he is. 1381 01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:14,000 Speaker 3: It just seemed like such trivial nonsense in the big 1382 01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:16,840 Speaker 3: scheme of like what that woman's life is gonna be 1383 01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:20,880 Speaker 3: now and what vicariously is gonna be said about black 1384 01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:22,400 Speaker 3: people through there. You know. It's kind of like the 1385 01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:24,640 Speaker 3: Obama thing where it's like there's some black people that 1386 01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:27,560 Speaker 3: loved shit on Obama, like they think they get a 1387 01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:29,919 Speaker 3: bigger black card for it. But there's a lot of us, 1388 01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:32,520 Speaker 3: the majority of us. It's not that we think the 1389 01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:35,320 Speaker 3: man's perfect. It's just like, damn, this motherfucker catching hell 1390 01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:37,720 Speaker 3: for a bunch of unfair shit too, right, So I 1391 01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:40,760 Speaker 3: just don't feel like contributed to it, because you know, 1392 01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:43,680 Speaker 3: what fucking color his tan suit was is not that 1393 01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:46,400 Speaker 3: shouldn't be a problem, or headline or his wife's orange 1394 01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:47,560 Speaker 3: being out, it. 1395 01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:48,520 Speaker 2: Shouldn't be a problem. 1396 01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:50,920 Speaker 3: And so it's like, I don't want to get into 1397 01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:53,960 Speaker 3: some of the other shit about him sometimes, you know, 1398 01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:56,320 Speaker 3: because it does mean something to black people to see 1399 01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:58,479 Speaker 3: that black person there, and it does, whether you admit 1400 01:05:58,560 --> 01:05:59,960 Speaker 3: it or not. It means something to a lot of 1401 01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:02,600 Speaker 3: black women to see that black woman over there, and 1402 01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:05,920 Speaker 3: that black child. It means something. You know, you don't 1403 01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:08,440 Speaker 3: gotta like it, but fuck man, a lot of black people, 1404 01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:11,840 Speaker 3: well meaning black people there aren't coons and shit, are like. 1405 01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:14,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, like I feel something. 1406 01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:18,560 Speaker 3: Wrong with that, And it still makes them a focal 1407 01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:21,800 Speaker 3: point for a bunch of racism, Yes it does. Meanwhile, 1408 01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:23,760 Speaker 3: Kate gets treated with the respect you to hope she 1409 01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:26,560 Speaker 3: would be giving her position. It's been frustrating, but I'm 1410 01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:27,760 Speaker 3: happy Harry is doing his best. 1411 01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:29,680 Speaker 2: To fight this. I'm really praying they get through this. 1412 01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:34,600 Speaker 3: And yeah, I feel Felix. Let's see, we had a poll. 1413 01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:39,800 Speaker 3: Uh oh, we had comments on it. Will Pastor Wilson resigned? 1414 01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:45,040 Speaker 2: Mm hmm okay, what are the choices are? 1415 01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:49,520 Speaker 3: Uh oh wait, I gotta wait for the page a 1416 01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:51,280 Speaker 3: lot because apparently it's taking this time. 1417 01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:54,120 Speaker 2: All right, Oh wow, both pages a lot. 1418 01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:59,960 Speaker 3: Well, we'll get to these answers in a second whenever 1419 01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:05,960 Speaker 3: the computer here get together. Do think Jesus, this is 1420 01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:07,120 Speaker 3: the longest it's ever taken. 1421 01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:09,360 Speaker 2: Oh, what's happening? I don't know? 1422 01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:15,000 Speaker 3: A pausive show? All right, technical difficulties. Will Pastor Wilson resign? Yes, 1423 01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:18,480 Speaker 3: he'll step down now he'll be forced to resign eventually. 1424 01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:22,080 Speaker 3: Or no, he'll be just fine. Karen, No, Karen says 1425 01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:24,360 Speaker 3: he'll be just fine. Eighty one percent of the audience 1426 01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:25,200 Speaker 3: agrees with Karen. 1427 01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:27,720 Speaker 2: Why do you say that? 1428 01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:33,840 Speaker 4: Why would you like in the position that he's in 1429 01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:38,439 Speaker 4: and stuff like that. You know, actually the correct thing 1430 01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:41,640 Speaker 4: to do would be do step down on his own position. 1431 01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:46,000 Speaker 3: But all right, I agree that he won't resign because 1432 01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:48,200 Speaker 3: I don't think these motherfuckers have to do the right thing. 1433 01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:53,600 Speaker 3: Because up the narcissism and these flying monkeys and shit, 1434 01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:56,240 Speaker 3: these motherfuckers be in these churches doing these people bedding. 1435 01:07:57,360 --> 01:07:58,960 Speaker 2: So I mean, I remember when it was. 1436 01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:01,400 Speaker 3: Eddie Long and I'm like, yep, this dude got like 1437 01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:03,880 Speaker 3: fucking ten dudes being. 1438 01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:06,080 Speaker 4: Like he's coming out lefting right. 1439 01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:07,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, like what the fuck? 1440 01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:08,760 Speaker 4: Uh? 1441 01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:10,160 Speaker 2: He'll be forced to resign eventually. 1442 01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:13,160 Speaker 3: Seventeen percent and two percent say yes, he'll step down now. 1443 01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:16,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I went to eighty one percent. He'll be all right. 1444 01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:20,639 Speaker 3: My mom says, well, I voted no because I don't 1445 01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:22,280 Speaker 3: have a lot of faith in people these days. If 1446 01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:24,000 Speaker 3: he really wanted to spend it to save face, he 1447 01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:26,559 Speaker 3: temporarily resigned, Say he's going to get treatment for sex 1448 01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:27,439 Speaker 3: addiction or something. 1449 01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:29,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, do people even do that anymore? It feels like 1450 01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:30,679 Speaker 2: that's old. Now. 1451 01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:33,439 Speaker 3: I feel sorry for his wife because even being Muslim, 1452 01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:35,800 Speaker 3: I know that church gossip is what church lousip is like, 1453 01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:38,040 Speaker 3: and they'll probably find a way to blame her. I've 1454 01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:40,400 Speaker 3: seen it in my own community. Or if he was 1455 01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:42,400 Speaker 3: Super Bowl he resigned and just go in the poem. 1456 01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:45,960 Speaker 3: Because every black Facebook group I'm in they've been talking 1457 01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:49,480 Speaker 3: about it, and the latest seemed to be very impressed. 1458 01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:54,160 Speaker 3: Doctor Tiff says, I voted that no, but eventually he 1459 01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:56,200 Speaker 3: will be forced to step down. For the life of me, 1460 01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:58,080 Speaker 3: I don't understand why he would allow her to pull 1461 01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:00,679 Speaker 3: out her phone. Was he in his own didn't notice. 1462 01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:03,080 Speaker 3: I really believe it would depend on how his wife 1463 01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:05,519 Speaker 3: handles this. If she comes out and supported him and 1464 01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:07,640 Speaker 3: asked the congregation for aginness, they would do so. 1465 01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:08,920 Speaker 2: Otherwise it's toss up. 1466 01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:11,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know why you let her record either 1467 01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:14,080 Speaker 3: that was I mean, it's no way else secret. 1468 01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:15,000 Speaker 2: It's rain in his face. 1469 01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:17,200 Speaker 4: I mean she had the flash on. I mean she 1470 01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:20,680 Speaker 4: was bright as fuck and that you know, I can 1471 01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:22,400 Speaker 4: see it. She didn't have it on. I mean, because 1472 01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:25,400 Speaker 4: you're facing the ass, you ain't looking up. But I mean, god, damn, 1473 01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:26,559 Speaker 4: that shit was like action. 1474 01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:30,559 Speaker 3: He can down join the infamous ranks of the other gods. 1475 01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:33,800 Speaker 3: So just Kreflo Dollar, Eddie Long, Henry Lyons, Gaster Smith, 1476 01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:36,200 Speaker 3: and Thomas Wesley Weeks And thanks to you again for 1477 01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:38,080 Speaker 3: black Twitter. Sais side who was on the case they 1478 01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:41,160 Speaker 3: found Corinthia and who her waxer is just kidding a 1479 01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:44,800 Speaker 3: buyer waxer Lol. They really did find all that she did. 1480 01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:46,800 Speaker 4: Find out who a wax is. You dig deep enough 1481 01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:48,360 Speaker 4: in the whole, somebody knows. 1482 01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:52,439 Speaker 2: Because they tagged themselves to it. Like mm hm, look, 1483 01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:54,840 Speaker 2: this is my work, this is my work. Come on. 1484 01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:56,720 Speaker 3: But when Shoe Bay says, how come you never hear 1485 01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:59,000 Speaker 3: stories about the first lady of the church busting it 1486 01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:01,400 Speaker 3: over before USh always a male pastor. 1487 01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:03,920 Speaker 2: Because Dick's are a problem, Well. 1488 01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:06,200 Speaker 3: Nique said, this story was wild and unselling for me 1489 01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:07,960 Speaker 3: as a Christian. This is the type of apocacy that 1490 01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:10,479 Speaker 3: keeps people from joining churches. I'm happy with the church 1491 01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:12,640 Speaker 3: on man, I'm growing spiritually, and I'm oblivious to the 1492 01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:14,840 Speaker 3: mess if it happens. The worst that happens is my 1493 01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:17,559 Speaker 3: white pastor drags and white parishioners talking about white privilege 1494 01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:18,280 Speaker 3: and immigrant stories. 1495 01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:21,439 Speaker 2: Oh you want to woke churches? Good for you? Dogs 1496 01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:22,840 Speaker 2: hard to find, Yes they are. 1497 01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:26,040 Speaker 3: He's gonna preach about tolerance for the lgbtqy A community 1498 01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:28,160 Speaker 3: this Sunday, and he joked that it would most likely 1499 01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:30,559 Speaker 3: be his last summon to come on out to him 1500 01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:35,360 Speaker 3: tap dance to around the issue. Everyone got a kick 1501 01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:37,400 Speaker 3: out of it, so that I at this place, I 1502 01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:40,439 Speaker 3: found a relationship I've wanted and I'm not worrying about 1503 01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:43,120 Speaker 3: mess like this. Goodness, how do you look after your 1504 01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:45,719 Speaker 3: spiritual journey with this kind of thing happening? 1505 01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:48,320 Speaker 2: Blessed? Blessing to all those involved, though truly. 1506 01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:52,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, when pastors are mascots now, man like, yeah mascots. 1507 01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:56,639 Speaker 2: People be defending that shit, Bean, says Rod Care. 1508 01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:58,760 Speaker 3: The internal scream I wanted to let out when y'all 1509 01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:01,320 Speaker 3: talk about Pastor Wilson is my fault for listeners at work. 1510 01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:02,400 Speaker 2: Ha ha. 1511 01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:05,360 Speaker 3: I was a damn food for also looking his name 1512 01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:07,400 Speaker 3: up on Twitter to see that video as a result 1513 01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:10,360 Speaker 3: on my phone, because I would have been fired for sure. Yeah, 1514 01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:11,800 Speaker 3: don't do that on company Wi fi. 1515 01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:16,040 Speaker 4: M M so some of them, some of that right 1516 01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:17,080 Speaker 4: there was not safe for work. 1517 01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:19,040 Speaker 2: I man gonna show up like, oh, this is what 1518 01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:19,479 Speaker 2: you're into. 1519 01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:23,479 Speaker 3: A homegirl said she was gonna have some leverage over 1520 01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:24,840 Speaker 3: this man one way or another. 1521 01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:25,800 Speaker 2: Huh. 1522 01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:28,360 Speaker 3: It does feel like it would fall into the category 1523 01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:29,160 Speaker 3: of revenge for him. 1524 01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:29,600 Speaker 4: M m. 1525 01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:31,880 Speaker 3: But it don't count with this man, even if he 1526 01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:34,559 Speaker 3: knew he was being recorded, won't be surprised if he 1527 01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:38,400 Speaker 3: goes with the my phone was hacked excusive enough people tell, oh, 1528 01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:39,600 Speaker 3: she goes with that excusive. 1529 01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:41,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can see that people do that too, But 1530 01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:42,720 Speaker 2: how you gonna prove that? 1531 01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:44,640 Speaker 4: Can everybody know? 1532 01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:48,200 Speaker 2: You put it out there like who hacked your phone 1533 01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:50,759 Speaker 2: and had motive? But I don't know. That's how difficult 1534 01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:51,160 Speaker 2: this shit is. 1535 01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:54,120 Speaker 3: In the court of Latto, Phil g says, when God calls, 1536 01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:55,759 Speaker 3: I get to provide a service. 1537 01:11:56,160 --> 01:12:00,080 Speaker 2: Don't ask no questions. 1538 01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:06,040 Speaker 3: All right, let's go to the next one. Nineteen eighty 1539 01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:09,920 Speaker 3: one rage yoga. We got five comments on this. 1540 01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:12,040 Speaker 2: And we'll get it those in a second. 1541 01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:15,679 Speaker 3: I don't know if anybody went and did some rage 1542 01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:17,320 Speaker 3: yoga since we put out the show. 1543 01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:20,800 Speaker 2: I haven't yet, Okay, Michelle says. 1544 01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:22,800 Speaker 3: The story about what happened to the black soldiers at 1545 01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:26,639 Speaker 3: Camp Logan is well known, a well known story in Houston, 1546 01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:30,240 Speaker 3: at least for people who know the city's history. 1547 01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:31,360 Speaker 2: Oh so not well known. 1548 01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:34,120 Speaker 3: An interesting side note is that the camp grounds where 1549 01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:36,719 Speaker 3: happened part of a larger city park called Memorial Park. 1550 01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:39,360 Speaker 3: They have a sign showing where the camp is that 1551 01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:42,200 Speaker 3: can be missed by anyone who doesn't know how to 1552 01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:44,480 Speaker 3: look for it. 1553 01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:46,000 Speaker 2: Isn't that how black history always is? 1554 01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:48,000 Speaker 4: They got it they got it out there two inches 1555 01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:49,639 Speaker 4: off the ground like a yard tail sign. 1556 01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:52,599 Speaker 2: Neighborhood. This way, it's over here behind the creek. 1557 01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:56,600 Speaker 3: But yeah, I never checked to see if there's a 1558 01:12:56,680 --> 01:12:59,000 Speaker 3: historical marker. But I do remember hearing the story behind 1559 01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:01,479 Speaker 3: the sign when they just says, hey, Rod and Karen, 1560 01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:06,040 Speaker 3: people want black content but don't support black content. Then 1561 01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:08,439 Speaker 3: people get mad when the show gets canceled. They act surprise. 1562 01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:11,280 Speaker 3: I actually wanted to see Confederate. If the show is good, 1563 01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:14,040 Speaker 3: I'm watching it. Like the controversy with the Harriet movie. 1564 01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:17,200 Speaker 3: I'm just happy for a story being told. Yeah, my 1565 01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:19,120 Speaker 3: thing is, I'm going to see that Harry movie. I 1566 01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:21,840 Speaker 3: don't give a fuck like that's happening. I think it 1567 01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:23,280 Speaker 3: comes out on saying that it's turn in, So I 1568 01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:25,240 Speaker 3: might not see it the night up, but I'm seeing 1569 01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:29,559 Speaker 3: that shit because it's on the first. It might it might, Okay, 1570 01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:32,519 Speaker 3: So anyway, my point is I'm seeing it because I 1571 01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:35,559 Speaker 3: fucking asked for it. If it's not good, I mean, 1572 01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:37,599 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie and be like, oh, you gotta 1573 01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:39,080 Speaker 3: like it. I'm not one of those people, and I'm 1574 01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:40,880 Speaker 3: not guilting anyone to go and see it. But I 1575 01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:43,160 Speaker 3: personally do want to see it, and I'll watch fucking 1576 01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:45,519 Speaker 3: fifteen of these movies. I watch a TV series based 1577 01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:48,080 Speaker 3: off it too, Harry Tubman, it's a goddamn superhero. 1578 01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:50,440 Speaker 4: We're gonna watching that and Terminator next weekend. 1579 01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:51,680 Speaker 2: And yeah, who the fuck don't want to see that. 1580 01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:54,760 Speaker 4: We're gonna watching two Terminators, a real one and on 1581 01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:55,559 Speaker 4: in a person. 1582 01:13:55,840 --> 01:14:00,200 Speaker 3: Yeah we'll see what happens, you know, like, yeah, we'll see, 1583 01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:01,080 Speaker 3: Felix says. 1584 01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:03,440 Speaker 2: The more books I read on black. 1585 01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:08,519 Speaker 3: Excuse me, honesty, Black African slash, Black British history, and 1586 01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:10,360 Speaker 3: the history of the world in general, the more I've 1587 01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:12,960 Speaker 3: embraced the conversations that happen when everyone learns through media 1588 01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:15,880 Speaker 3: like Watchmen, watching folks get to know about. 1589 01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:18,360 Speaker 2: Something I've been aware of for a while, it was cool. 1590 01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:19,719 Speaker 2: Same here, I agree. 1591 01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:23,080 Speaker 3: Everyone sharing resources for folks to learn more and inform 1592 01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:25,600 Speaker 3: themselves was cool to see. Not everyone has time to 1593 01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:27,320 Speaker 3: go out of their way to inform themselves, and stuff 1594 01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:30,320 Speaker 3: like watching highlighting specific moments in history on this bigger 1595 01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:31,840 Speaker 3: platform always feels good. 1596 01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:34,040 Speaker 2: Also helped that. It also helps that. 1597 01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:36,920 Speaker 3: I want Regina Chen to choke me with her boss EPs. 1598 01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:38,120 Speaker 3: She was so good in the show. 1599 01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:38,519 Speaker 2: Ah ha. 1600 01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:41,800 Speaker 3: Also, I feel like the intro specifically for your black 1601 01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:43,280 Speaker 3: Brick fans bless you guys. 1602 01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:45,840 Speaker 2: Oh, because do you want to smoke brother dude? Yeah? 1603 01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:47,160 Speaker 4: Do you want to smok brother? 1604 01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:50,800 Speaker 2: Rod and Karen are heart? Yeah? 1605 01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:54,400 Speaker 3: But uh yeah, I love that stuff. Like That's the thing. 1606 01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:57,280 Speaker 3: I wasn't even trying to be self righteous or no shit, like, no, 1607 01:14:57,439 --> 01:15:00,719 Speaker 3: it's good. Whenever you learn it, it's good. And I hope 1608 01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:02,960 Speaker 3: that people learn. The real lesson I want people to 1609 01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:04,839 Speaker 3: learn is not to be afraid of this stuff. 1610 01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:08,120 Speaker 2: Does it hurt a bit? Sure? Do you know? Do 1611 01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:08,640 Speaker 2: you do? 1612 01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:12,200 Speaker 3: Some people have anxiety around it or issues and they 1613 01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:15,719 Speaker 3: need like special like kid gloves to see it. Maybe 1614 01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:17,880 Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm not one of those people, so 1615 01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:19,559 Speaker 3: I can't speak for those people, you know. I know 1616 01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:23,479 Speaker 3: some people feel like it needs like some type of 1617 01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:26,680 Speaker 3: warning or something. I get it, But fictional lot of 1618 01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:29,720 Speaker 3: stuff doesn't do that to me. Only real stuff, Like 1619 01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:32,559 Speaker 3: if I see a real person get shot by the cops. 1620 01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:35,080 Speaker 3: It could be grainy surveillance footage why I can't make 1621 01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:37,559 Speaker 3: out anything but shadows and that that's gonna always fuck 1622 01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:41,640 Speaker 3: with me. But if I see I don't know a 1623 01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:43,640 Speaker 3: TV show and that happens. It just doesn't bother me 1624 01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:45,840 Speaker 3: the same way. I don't know why. It's just the 1625 01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:48,920 Speaker 3: way my brain set up. But yeah, yeah, put the 1626 01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:50,840 Speaker 3: wing on it if you need to just show it 1627 01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:53,120 Speaker 3: to people. I want people to see this stuff and 1628 01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:56,320 Speaker 3: they can choose to ignore it or be ignorant to it, 1629 01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:57,960 Speaker 3: or they can brace up and be like, Okay, oh, 1630 01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:00,320 Speaker 3: this is gonna be some real shit. But like the 1631 01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:03,280 Speaker 3: amount of praise I saw for it directly opposes the 1632 01:16:03,320 --> 01:16:06,800 Speaker 3: people who claim they're tired of these narratives. You haven't 1633 01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:10,679 Speaker 3: even seen these narratives. You barely they barely touched the surface. 1634 01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:13,800 Speaker 3: You don't know what's in the box. And you've only 1635 01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:17,599 Speaker 3: seen the service of things a little bit. And that's 1636 01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:20,120 Speaker 3: and we're like, that's too much. No man, we need 1637 01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:22,479 Speaker 3: Like I'm telling you, there's things in that box that. 1638 01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:23,200 Speaker 2: Are gonna give you. 1639 01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:26,880 Speaker 3: Uh not, I can't speak for you. For me, it's 1640 01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:30,879 Speaker 3: gonna give It gave me affirmation to be like that happened. 1641 01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:34,479 Speaker 3: I'm not crazy. When I ride through South Carolina, I 1642 01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:36,160 Speaker 3: look on the side of the highway sometimes to think 1643 01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:39,960 Speaker 3: my people might have truck through there. You know, what 1644 01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:42,720 Speaker 3: I'm saying, like someone might got through freedom through there. 1645 01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:43,880 Speaker 4: You know. 1646 01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:47,519 Speaker 3: I think about those things and and I'm not crazy 1647 01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:50,559 Speaker 3: for thinking that, you know. And I'm not playing victim 1648 01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:52,760 Speaker 3: or anything. It's just something that I'm black, and I'm 1649 01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:55,960 Speaker 3: gonna always be aware of. Ama says, Oh my god, 1650 01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:58,719 Speaker 3: the new voice of the Blackoutists intro was so surprised 1651 01:16:58,760 --> 01:16:59,320 Speaker 3: and sexy. 1652 01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:00,400 Speaker 2: I like the second too. 1653 01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:04,080 Speaker 3: My first set of roommates at AA m U yay 1654 01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:07,800 Speaker 3: HBCUs were from Oklahoma, and I looked at them the 1655 01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:10,080 Speaker 3: same way folks would look at me when I tell 1656 01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:13,160 Speaker 3: them I grew up in Nebraska. I said, they didn't 1657 01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:15,040 Speaker 3: run all the black people out of Oklahoma. 1658 01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:15,599 Speaker 2: After the race rids. 1659 01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:18,400 Speaker 3: They knew about it, but say people don't really talk 1660 01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:22,400 Speaker 3: about it much from where they're from. They also weren't amused. Yeah, 1661 01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:25,960 Speaker 3: I can imagine. It's like that time I ask them 1662 01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:28,479 Speaker 3: people from Trinidad Tobago if they was from a thoroughld 1663 01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:30,760 Speaker 3: country and they ended up being my sweet mates and 1664 01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:33,479 Speaker 3: some of my good friends. But boy, was I a 1665 01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:38,639 Speaker 3: n ignorant American that first day. Jesus motherfucking Christ had jokes. 1666 01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:40,479 Speaker 4: We all got running water, y'all. 1667 01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:43,880 Speaker 3: If I could fucking erase that joke time. Like, I 1668 01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:47,599 Speaker 3: was out there straight up like so uh, y'all have flowers? 1669 01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:49,160 Speaker 3: We on face and shit, and that was like, Nigga, 1670 01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:53,040 Speaker 3: what the fuck am I god to beat your ass? 1671 01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:54,280 Speaker 3: I'm like, why y'all get some mad? 1672 01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:57,080 Speaker 2: I seen the I seen this stuff on Africa on TV. 1673 01:17:57,240 --> 01:17:58,680 Speaker 3: I was like, I will fuck you up just at 1674 01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:02,280 Speaker 3: an infomercial. It's definitely a little known fact in American history. 1675 01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:04,879 Speaker 3: And I only learned about it after the movie Rosewood 1676 01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:06,920 Speaker 3: came out. I was in junior high and because I 1677 01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:09,719 Speaker 3: wasn't allowed to see the movie, I just researched the internet. 1678 01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:12,160 Speaker 3: Was super young back then, shout out to the AOLCD, 1679 01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:14,680 Speaker 3: so it led me down a rabbit hole of injustice. 1680 01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:15,840 Speaker 2: Asked my dad about it. 1681 01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:18,120 Speaker 3: He confirmed that a lot of riots like that happened 1682 01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:20,800 Speaker 3: all over America, and he reminded me of all the 1683 01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:23,719 Speaker 3: racism and my mom. My mom had to endure Nebraska, 1684 01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:24,680 Speaker 3: which was news to me. 1685 01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:25,920 Speaker 2: Growing up there. 1686 01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:29,280 Speaker 3: I thought racism was just a Southern thing. And I meet. 1687 01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:31,400 Speaker 4: A lot of people today people like ignorant about that, 1688 01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:33,160 Speaker 4: and I tell people, is it white folks there? 1689 01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:33,439 Speaker 2: Yes? 1690 01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:34,519 Speaker 4: Then racism is there. 1691 01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:35,000 Speaker 2: Yep. 1692 01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:38,599 Speaker 3: I meet a lot of people who still think that way. 1693 01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:41,000 Speaker 3: The first time my nephew was called nigger was after 1694 01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:44,360 Speaker 3: my sister's family moved to Seattle not here in Alabama. 1695 01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:46,840 Speaker 3: After that incident, my sister said she just wanted to 1696 01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:49,559 Speaker 3: move somewhere, anywhere in the world where her boys will 1697 01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:51,479 Speaker 3: be safe from racism and bigotry. I told her there's 1698 01:18:51,479 --> 01:18:54,639 Speaker 3: no place on earth like that, honey, There's always something yes. 1699 01:18:54,960 --> 01:19:00,439 Speaker 3: And my Chris Rock voice, ain't no happiness nowhere? Did 1700 01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:03,080 Speaker 3: he say it three times? Though, Ain't no happiness nowhere, 1701 01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:05,280 Speaker 3: Ain't no happen it's nowhere? 1702 01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:07,360 Speaker 2: You know you like to do that? Uh? The five 1703 01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:10,719 Speaker 2: to find it always makes me have The. 1704 01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:15,040 Speaker 3: Line always makes me laugh when things are shitty. That's 1705 01:19:15,080 --> 01:19:17,720 Speaker 3: why fighting is so important. You can't always run from 1706 01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:20,960 Speaker 3: the certain problems. Love y'all in mind. Thank you, yep, 1707 01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:25,360 Speaker 3: that's true. And then we had to pole, which is 1708 01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:27,400 Speaker 3: do you share the pass or your Netflix account? 1709 01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:27,880 Speaker 2: Yes or no? 1710 01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:33,840 Speaker 3: Fifty five percent of people said yes, forty four percent 1711 01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:36,840 Speaker 3: said no, and we had some comments, so mine said. 1712 01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:38,800 Speaker 3: My little sister made a Facebook post a few weeks 1713 01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:41,200 Speaker 3: ago thanking me and our big sister for sharing our 1714 01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:43,439 Speaker 3: streaming subscriptions among other memberships with her. 1715 01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:44,240 Speaker 2: I'm just gonnad. 1716 01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:46,599 Speaker 3: Netflix has a different account set up because I used 1717 01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:48,880 Speaker 3: to get mad if someone watched something on my list. 1718 01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:51,360 Speaker 2: Now starting at a down, starting at a we hear 1719 01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:52,320 Speaker 2: a place y. I hate that. 1720 01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:54,479 Speaker 3: But the important thing is knowing the rules and not 1721 01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:56,000 Speaker 3: sharing a pass or with anyone else. 1722 01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:56,400 Speaker 2: We didn't. 1723 01:19:56,439 --> 01:19:58,840 Speaker 3: Okay, that happened to my friends. She let her little 1724 01:19:58,840 --> 01:20:00,840 Speaker 3: sister use her account and then and her sister gated 1725 01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:03,320 Speaker 3: passed her to a boyfriend, who then hacked the account 1726 01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:05,639 Speaker 3: after they broke up. But she never told my friend 1727 01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:08,040 Speaker 3: to change her password, and when she told her how 1728 01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:10,680 Speaker 3: difficult it is to get your account unlocked and reverified, 1729 01:20:10,760 --> 01:20:13,120 Speaker 3: shaking my head. Needless to say, her sister is no 1730 01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:13,920 Speaker 3: longer allowed. 1731 01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:14,439 Speaker 2: To use her accounts. 1732 01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:20,599 Speaker 3: A mess or date fuck niggas. Brooklyn Shoebase says, oh no, 1733 01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:23,120 Speaker 3: I don't. The way my divorced settlement was set up, 1734 01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:25,040 Speaker 3: my ex husband agreed to share custody of the Netflix 1735 01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:26,000 Speaker 3: account and the children. 1736 01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:30,400 Speaker 2: Lol. A bunch of question marks. Monique says, I do 1737 01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:31,400 Speaker 2: share my Netflix. 1738 01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:33,559 Speaker 3: I was way too generous with the password, Apparently every 1739 01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:36,080 Speaker 3: time I logged in the language just turned to Italian 1740 01:20:36,120 --> 01:20:39,960 Speaker 3: no matter what, was trying to change Orange and watch Orange, 1741 01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:41,800 Speaker 3: and I almost tossed the remote of my screen because 1742 01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:43,080 Speaker 3: every single episode had. 1743 01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:45,280 Speaker 2: Update my own damn language settings. 1744 01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:48,599 Speaker 3: Damn somebody got you. Turns out my very nice Italian 1745 01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:50,640 Speaker 3: coworkers were watching the shows. That's all on me. But 1746 01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:54,720 Speaker 3: damn it if I didn't nearly lose my marbles old 1747 01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:56,479 Speaker 3: and if they were somewhere else watching Orange and Black, 1748 01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:59,320 Speaker 3: like who keep switching the shit to English? Yes, phil 1749 01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:01,800 Speaker 3: G says I don't, but only because my lady left 1750 01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:03,519 Speaker 3: me a few weeks ago, so no one to share 1751 01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:04,160 Speaker 3: with currently. 1752 01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:06,639 Speaker 2: Oh I'm sorry to hear that. 1753 01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:10,160 Speaker 3: Phield G you, but hopefully it's from a positive place. 1754 01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:14,360 Speaker 3: And y'all mutually did a mutual uncoupling, conscious and coupling, 1755 01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:17,479 Speaker 3: and it's very healthy to hear you break up, I guess, 1756 01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:21,840 Speaker 3: and you got your Netflix rights back. So, ladies, if 1757 01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:24,200 Speaker 3: you're looking for somebody with a Netflix account, okay, my 1758 01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:25,320 Speaker 3: boy philed. 1759 01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:27,240 Speaker 4: G isn't out here any cuffing season. 1760 01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:33,840 Speaker 3: Cuffing and uh and chill season apparently, because okay, if 1761 01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:36,840 Speaker 3: you want to catch up on some on some on 1762 01:21:36,920 --> 01:21:39,920 Speaker 3: some dark Crystal something. Okay, your boy Phil G is 1763 01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:43,280 Speaker 3: out here. Okay, the doors of the church are opening. 1764 01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:47,120 Speaker 3: We got one comment on our Walking Dad review, which 1765 01:21:47,320 --> 01:21:49,840 Speaker 3: was I wain't no, no, I'm sorry this episode nineteen 1766 01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:52,920 Speaker 3: eighty two caring is not the one Phil G said. 1767 01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:55,000 Speaker 3: I was listen to the podcast. Someone said, futures kids 1768 01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:58,920 Speaker 3: names sound like a track list. Watch you drop an 1769 01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:00,640 Speaker 3: album with all his kids name it's tracks in the 1770 01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:04,880 Speaker 3: coming years. That would make sense. Then we had the 1771 01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:07,439 Speaker 3: poe do you like the new book excerpt openness for 1772 01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:07,840 Speaker 3: the show? 1773 01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:10,200 Speaker 2: No, go back to rap lyrics or yes, it's. 1774 01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:14,200 Speaker 4: Interesting for me, I like them all right. 1775 01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:16,920 Speaker 3: Ninety one percent think it is interesting and it also 1776 01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:18,519 Speaker 3: kind of gives us something to talk about to start 1777 01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:22,000 Speaker 3: the show. And then nine percent say no, go back 1778 01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:25,320 Speaker 3: to rap bics. So I'm sorry. Nine percent looks like 1779 01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:27,960 Speaker 3: most people don't agree. Michael London says, I love the 1780 01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:30,600 Speaker 3: new because rod and Can a hot voice. Though, so 1781 01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:34,479 Speaker 3: I guess Mike didn't like the book excerpts. The Shady 1782 01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:36,760 Speaker 3: Day says I love the book excerpts. I'm an avid reader, 1783 01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:39,160 Speaker 3: so I've taken a few notes about the books that 1784 01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:41,120 Speaker 3: you've been reading and has helped me add a few 1785 01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:42,360 Speaker 3: more books to my shopping list. 1786 01:22:42,439 --> 01:22:43,639 Speaker 2: Keep up to good work, you guys. 1787 01:22:44,120 --> 01:22:44,360 Speaker 4: Thank you. 1788 01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:46,519 Speaker 3: Broogly Shoeba says, I like it. I'm in the spirit 1789 01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:48,920 Speaker 3: of learning new things right now. Your book excerpts are 1790 01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:51,800 Speaker 3: helping me. Alicia says, I like both and the poems you. 1791 01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:52,080 Speaker 2: Used to do. 1792 01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:55,800 Speaker 3: Oh okay, I might get back to Yes money. Kim 1793 01:22:55,880 --> 01:22:57,720 Speaker 3: Docs has super informative. You read all the books. I 1794 01:22:57,800 --> 01:23:01,200 Speaker 3: truly wish I could. It's said I'm over here and shrines, 1795 01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:04,200 Speaker 3: struck in shrines and breath of the while keep educating 1796 01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:06,920 Speaker 3: us right as much appreciated. Well, look, if y'all like it, 1797 01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:09,000 Speaker 3: I'm gonna try to continue to do it. I mean, 1798 01:23:09,040 --> 01:23:10,960 Speaker 3: I can't always promise I'm gonna have a new book 1799 01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:11,800 Speaker 3: and next or to read. 1800 01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:14,439 Speaker 2: But I don't know. I've been on the reading kick lately. Man. 1801 01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:16,479 Speaker 2: I've been reading so fast and so much. 1802 01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:19,080 Speaker 3: It's like I'm all the way back to like when 1803 01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:22,240 Speaker 3: I was in like like high school the way i'm 1804 01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:24,639 Speaker 3: reading or junior high school and the way I'm just 1805 01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:27,240 Speaker 3: I don't know. I just feel like reading a lot lately, 1806 01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:33,120 Speaker 3: and it, honestly, it's very therapeutic. It's another thing you 1807 01:23:33,160 --> 01:23:34,680 Speaker 3: can't really do it while you're on the internet and 1808 01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:37,519 Speaker 3: live tweet it. You can't talk to other people while 1809 01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:39,240 Speaker 3: you're doing it. You know, I might just throw on 1810 01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:42,360 Speaker 3: some music or something for the fish bowl, you know, 1811 01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:46,679 Speaker 3: something like that, throwing some cash doll and go to work, 1812 01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:52,000 Speaker 3: all right. We had the last episode of the week, nineteen. 1813 01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:57,519 Speaker 2: Eighty three, Drench frying to tender loins. We are silly? 1814 01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:00,719 Speaker 2: Uh walk to Daddycap got three comments. 1815 01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:03,720 Speaker 3: Tooty toward says hey, Rodan care Man teen family is 1816 01:24:03,760 --> 01:24:04,639 Speaker 3: really going through it. 1817 01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:07,519 Speaker 2: Forty nine hours of walker killing. It's crazy. 1818 01:24:08,160 --> 01:24:10,040 Speaker 3: I don't know what to believe about how the Walkers 1819 01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:11,920 Speaker 3: are coming their way, but I want one hundred percent 1820 01:24:11,960 --> 01:24:13,600 Speaker 3: believe there is a spy in Alexandra. 1821 01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:14,599 Speaker 2: I'm looking at you side. 1822 01:24:15,520 --> 01:24:18,320 Speaker 3: Mishean continues to be a great warrior, diplomatic mother, Carol 1823 01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:20,759 Speaker 3: is turned into a crackhead, and it's all going. 1824 01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:21,559 Speaker 2: Crazy and I love it. 1825 01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:26,240 Speaker 3: Thanks for your recap, Chaco says, I feel I felt 1826 01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:29,280 Speaker 3: tired from watching this episode. Couldn't blame anyone for being snappy. 1827 01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:33,240 Speaker 3: I also need to know how Alpha knew about them 1828 01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:36,759 Speaker 3: crossing the first two times. Does she lead people around 1829 01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:40,080 Speaker 3: to report back was she calling their bluff. I'm hoping 1830 01:24:40,160 --> 01:24:42,439 Speaker 3: this is the first and last time we have to 1831 01:24:42,479 --> 01:24:44,920 Speaker 3: worry about drugs or carrols. This it's not something to 1832 01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:48,040 Speaker 3: easily come by. Lastly, not sure how I feel about 1833 01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:51,080 Speaker 3: this meaning Redemption Act because as an audience member, it's 1834 01:24:51,080 --> 01:24:55,400 Speaker 3: still been too recent that he's been an asshole. I 1835 01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:57,800 Speaker 3: know what happens to him in the comics, but this 1836 01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:00,120 Speaker 3: show will do what they want regardless of sourc of teery. 1837 01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:01,519 Speaker 2: So it's a wait and see game. 1838 01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:03,839 Speaker 3: Really, I mean, you just didn't make it past embassy 1839 01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:06,080 Speaker 3: in the books, and now she's showing was badass. 1840 01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:07,000 Speaker 2: Well. 1841 01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:11,400 Speaker 3: Also, you say it's been not been long enough to rezis, 1842 01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:13,840 Speaker 3: but remember they had that big time jump. 1843 01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:16,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, nobody knows how far they know we do. It's 1844 01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:17,400 Speaker 2: like six years. 1845 01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:19,360 Speaker 4: I think they said, okay, yeah, so it's been a 1846 01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:19,920 Speaker 4: good jump. 1847 01:25:20,240 --> 01:25:22,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I don't mean, how long are they supposed to. 1848 01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:26,240 Speaker 4: You know, j done got big. Yeah. 1849 01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:28,439 Speaker 3: I guess you're not a prison abolitionist like me. You 1850 01:25:28,479 --> 01:25:31,120 Speaker 3: aren't a free Felicity Huffman and I can see why. 1851 01:25:31,400 --> 01:25:32,800 Speaker 4: Nope, nope, lock up. 1852 01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:37,840 Speaker 2: Even he says, eh, Henry, oh, way to be consistent. 1853 01:25:38,280 --> 01:25:40,320 Speaker 3: Well, Eugenie finally accept that it's over for him and 1854 01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:41,240 Speaker 3: Rosita as the poe. 1855 01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:43,880 Speaker 2: Yes, he's got the point. No, he still thinks there's 1856 01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:44,280 Speaker 2: a chance. 1857 01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:49,000 Speaker 4: Careen, he got the point. Hopefully he got the point. 1858 01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:52,479 Speaker 3: Okay, this is a this is a very close poll. 1859 01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:56,400 Speaker 3: Forty six forty six percent of y'all say he got 1860 01:25:56,439 --> 01:25:59,439 Speaker 3: the point, which, if you're doing the math me, he's 1861 01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:01,519 Speaker 3: fifty four us and y'all thinks now he thinks it's 1862 01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:02,120 Speaker 3: still a chance. 1863 01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:06,639 Speaker 2: The real question is is there just still a chance 1864 01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:08,839 Speaker 2: it's over? Okay? 1865 01:26:09,240 --> 01:26:11,720 Speaker 3: Monique says they need to write a nerd What if 1866 01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:14,760 Speaker 3: they kill Gabe and Sedik at the same time and 1867 01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:17,320 Speaker 3: now he's all them all left? Yeah, cause you know what, 1868 01:26:17,360 --> 01:26:21,320 Speaker 3: I forgot this nigga projectile vomited on Rosita one episode, 1869 01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:26,360 Speaker 3: and I just don't know that after you projectile vomit 1870 01:26:26,439 --> 01:26:30,280 Speaker 3: on a woman, if it's if it's possible for her 1871 01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:34,439 Speaker 3: to see you in a different light of courtship, you know, 1872 01:26:34,479 --> 01:26:37,160 Speaker 3: I feel like it's just not gonna happen. Monique kim 1873 01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:39,320 Speaker 3: Knock says they need to write a nerdy honey depth 1874 01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:40,560 Speaker 3: into the storyline. 1875 01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:43,000 Speaker 2: They keep inventing members of the group. 1876 01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:46,559 Speaker 3: Anyway, half one of these highway women's push up on him. Lol, 1877 01:26:46,920 --> 01:26:48,920 Speaker 3: and my, well, that's who you know, getting all that 1878 01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:53,360 Speaker 3: strange Luke. That woman was pushing up on Luke. So 1879 01:26:53,439 --> 01:26:56,760 Speaker 3: now e Jean like Jean chasing after rosite. He could 1880 01:26:56,760 --> 01:26:57,679 Speaker 3: have been out there on that woman. 1881 01:26:57,760 --> 01:27:00,280 Speaker 4: It's like, I'm just trying to FuG Yeah, she's want 1882 01:27:00,240 --> 01:27:05,720 Speaker 4: of highway women. Be like life feels away. I can 1883 01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:14,640 Speaker 4: ride you, Oh, ncuse. 1884 01:27:10,920 --> 01:27:11,240 Speaker 2: Me, ma'am. 1885 01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:13,120 Speaker 4: You know you know you say you want to ride. 1886 01:27:13,160 --> 01:27:15,559 Speaker 4: Now we'll all be talking about a motorcycle or a car. Man. 1887 01:27:15,680 --> 01:27:18,599 Speaker 3: I'd love to get on the interstate to that municipality. Right, 1888 01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:21,960 Speaker 3: maybe you can annex me into your subdivision, if you know. 1889 01:27:21,960 --> 01:27:22,360 Speaker 2: What I mean. 1890 01:27:22,520 --> 01:27:24,960 Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, I mean, what off on that 1891 01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:25,559 Speaker 4: ex ma'am? 1892 01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:30,559 Speaker 2: He says he keeps getting red lined out of love Town. 1893 01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:33,800 Speaker 3: He knows now that he's never dropping his kids off 1894 01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:40,679 Speaker 3: in that school district. Oh that's hilarious. All right, let's 1895 01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:46,559 Speaker 3: get to the emails, because we did get a few 1896 01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:49,559 Speaker 3: emails no voice. 1897 01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:52,400 Speaker 2: I did check, and there were not. 1898 01:27:54,640 --> 01:27:57,120 Speaker 3: All right, let's see how much time we got. Let's 1899 01:27:57,120 --> 01:27:58,560 Speaker 3: see if I got okay, cool, we got plenty of 1900 01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:02,080 Speaker 3: time Uh, Kim right saying wait, or is it. 1901 01:28:03,680 --> 01:28:05,720 Speaker 2: I think it's Kim Dot, but it could be. 1902 01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:08,880 Speaker 3: I think it's Kim Dock. Mo Nigue right saying new 1903 01:28:09,120 --> 01:28:13,320 Speaker 3: Emma Emmit Tell memorial. Hey, Rody Caer, I remember you 1904 01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:15,479 Speaker 3: talking about the Emmett Tel memorial. I saw that Dave 1905 01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:19,639 Speaker 3: erected a bullet glass proof memorial for Emmet Tell. 1906 01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:22,759 Speaker 2: Is not enough that he was a heinously tortured and killed. 1907 01:28:22,600 --> 01:28:26,320 Speaker 4: By racist No, but you like five hundred pounds like 1908 01:28:26,320 --> 01:28:27,040 Speaker 4: an inch stick. 1909 01:28:27,800 --> 01:28:30,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, I had this for fucking with black people, but 1910 01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:33,000 Speaker 3: haven't covered it yet before. To be shot at countless 1911 01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:35,559 Speaker 3: times over the course of its existing speaks some inherent 1912 01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:37,839 Speaker 3: evil we can't quite put our fingers on as a country. 1913 01:28:38,160 --> 01:28:40,479 Speaker 3: According to CNN, the sign, which costs more than ten 1914 01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:43,400 Speaker 3: thousand dollars away more than five hundred pounds, Surrounded by 1915 01:28:43,479 --> 01:28:46,280 Speaker 3: security cameras. The sign marks the spot where Till's body 1916 01:28:46,360 --> 01:28:50,120 Speaker 3: was pulled from the Tallihatchie River in nineteen fifty five. Well, 1917 01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:53,519 Speaker 3: what's interesting about them putting cameras around it? Last time 1918 01:28:53,560 --> 01:28:56,160 Speaker 3: the kids took pictures of themselves after shooting it, and 1919 01:28:56,320 --> 01:28:57,760 Speaker 3: none of them got in trouble, didn't even get. 1920 01:28:57,680 --> 01:29:00,600 Speaker 2: Kicked out of school right camera to do this. 1921 01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:04,320 Speaker 3: The article further stays in July three, White University in 1922 01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:06,920 Speaker 3: Misssigi or we just don't story we're talking about. 1923 01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:10,439 Speaker 4: It's like the third sign they've had to do, third 1924 01:29:10,520 --> 01:29:11,160 Speaker 4: or fourth sign. 1925 01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:12,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1926 01:29:12,439 --> 01:29:14,519 Speaker 3: Although I'm glad the desecrat the sign was a place, 1927 01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:16,960 Speaker 3: I'm still thinking people will still be shooting at a 1928 01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:21,200 Speaker 3: sickening right. Yeah, I Mattil died and people still im 1929 01:29:21,240 --> 01:29:24,720 Speaker 3: Mattil died because he wasn't bulletproof. Black people continue to 1930 01:29:24,720 --> 01:29:28,200 Speaker 3: die because we're not bulletproof, and because they won't stop 1931 01:29:28,439 --> 01:29:30,839 Speaker 3: trying to kill us, they have to make the memorial 1932 01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:35,520 Speaker 3: bulletproof because they hate us that much. My favorite podcast 1933 01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:38,559 Speaker 3: kittens included dear Rod and Karen. I have not written 1934 01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:41,360 Speaker 3: in in quite some time, but please know that I 1935 01:29:41,400 --> 01:29:44,120 Speaker 3: have been listening. This is Chee chee, and I just 1936 01:29:44,200 --> 01:29:46,800 Speaker 3: have to write you all again about the marvelous quality 1937 01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:49,519 Speaker 3: of your shows. I've been a loyal listener for almost 1938 01:29:49,560 --> 01:29:51,960 Speaker 3: five years and I never miss a free episode. Not 1939 01:29:52,080 --> 01:29:54,559 Speaker 3: premium yet, but I feel like and know that I'm 1940 01:29:54,600 --> 01:29:57,880 Speaker 3: getting premium content. And your last feedback episode, right you 1941 01:29:57,920 --> 01:30:00,320 Speaker 3: commented about being as passionate about your having it you 1942 01:30:00,320 --> 01:30:01,280 Speaker 3: are about your anger. 1943 01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:03,160 Speaker 2: When I tell you this hit me like a punch 1944 01:30:03,200 --> 01:30:05,240 Speaker 2: of the throat I was. I wanted it more like 1945 01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:06,639 Speaker 2: a hug to the neck, but okay. 1946 01:30:07,120 --> 01:30:09,880 Speaker 3: I immediately paused the episode decided to tweet it, tagging 1947 01:30:09,920 --> 01:30:12,639 Speaker 3: both your Twitter account and the official blackout to his account. 1948 01:30:12,880 --> 01:30:14,880 Speaker 3: As a perfectionist, I decided to check the black out 1949 01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:16,479 Speaker 3: to his Twitter account to make sure that it was 1950 01:30:16,479 --> 01:30:17,720 Speaker 3: tagged correctly. 1951 01:30:17,520 --> 01:30:20,559 Speaker 2: So that all my mutuals can see it. Thank you, well, 1952 01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:22,559 Speaker 2: whoa there? Well there, whoa there? 1953 01:30:22,600 --> 01:30:25,240 Speaker 3: The show art for your Sunday Night show was a 1954 01:30:25,240 --> 01:30:27,080 Speaker 3: photo of that. Oh wait, let me go back to 1955 01:30:27,120 --> 01:30:30,880 Speaker 3: the first parout. Thank you m h cause I really 1956 01:30:30,880 --> 01:30:33,160 Speaker 3: do believe in that. And that's a battle I fight myself. 1957 01:30:33,200 --> 01:30:35,680 Speaker 3: That's not a you know, that's not some shit. I'm 1958 01:30:35,720 --> 01:30:39,640 Speaker 3: just saying, like platitudes. Now, man, you gotta fight to 1959 01:30:39,640 --> 01:30:42,160 Speaker 3: be happy because motherfuckers really will try to fuck with you. 1960 01:30:43,080 --> 01:30:45,080 Speaker 2: They see people trying to do good. Shit. 1961 01:30:45,200 --> 01:30:47,960 Speaker 3: Man, there's like certain people that are attracted to trying 1962 01:30:47,960 --> 01:30:50,080 Speaker 3: to bring people down. One of the things I also 1963 01:30:50,080 --> 01:30:52,439 Speaker 3: read about the nursest shit they attracted to certain people 1964 01:30:52,439 --> 01:30:56,040 Speaker 3: because they think they're quote unquote a challenge. Yes, so 1965 01:30:56,120 --> 01:30:58,120 Speaker 3: a lot of times with someone puts you on that 1966 01:30:58,160 --> 01:31:00,080 Speaker 3: pedestal to try to take you off that pedestal. So 1967 01:31:00,240 --> 01:31:03,080 Speaker 3: later keep in mind that they thought you were a challenge. 1968 01:31:03,120 --> 01:31:05,439 Speaker 3: So I'm gonna love bomb this person. They're the greatest 1969 01:31:05,439 --> 01:31:08,720 Speaker 3: person ever. Oh they're everything they don't say they are. 1970 01:31:08,760 --> 01:31:09,360 Speaker 2: They're the best. 1971 01:31:09,360 --> 01:31:11,560 Speaker 3: And then when they decide to discard you and to 1972 01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:14,320 Speaker 3: harass you, and shit, that just is what it is. 1973 01:31:14,360 --> 01:31:14,639 Speaker 2: Dog. 1974 01:31:15,120 --> 01:31:17,479 Speaker 3: And if you going through this process, you gotta you 1975 01:31:17,560 --> 01:31:20,000 Speaker 3: gotta fight for your own happiness. You can't get it 1976 01:31:20,040 --> 01:31:23,040 Speaker 3: from outside stimuli. You have to find it inside of you. 1977 01:31:23,120 --> 01:31:24,360 Speaker 3: Never gonna have it right. 1978 01:31:24,400 --> 01:31:26,599 Speaker 4: And the thing about it, the fighting for your joy 1979 01:31:26,720 --> 01:31:29,640 Speaker 4: is a double thing. I have to fight not that 1980 01:31:29,720 --> 01:31:31,360 Speaker 4: you don't steal it, but I also have to fight 1981 01:31:31,400 --> 01:31:33,800 Speaker 4: that I don't give it away because that can happen too, 1982 01:31:34,160 --> 01:31:36,400 Speaker 4: where you get so overwhelmed as you're like fuck it. 1983 01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:39,320 Speaker 2: And self care ain't just like buying shit, you know, 1984 01:31:39,439 --> 01:31:40,320 Speaker 2: it's nothing, you know what I mean? 1985 01:31:40,360 --> 01:31:42,120 Speaker 3: Self care is a lot of shit that you do 1986 01:31:42,200 --> 01:31:45,840 Speaker 3: to internally protect yourself and energy and to dedicate it 1987 01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:47,479 Speaker 3: to things that nourish you as well. 1988 01:31:48,040 --> 01:31:51,519 Speaker 4: Yes, And self care is doing the ship that you love. 1989 01:31:51,680 --> 01:31:54,360 Speaker 4: You love to read, motherfucking read. You wanna travel, fucking 1990 01:31:54,400 --> 01:31:56,360 Speaker 4: go out and see the world. You want to see 1991 01:31:56,360 --> 01:31:59,759 Speaker 4: family and friends do that shit too. And some things 1992 01:31:59,800 --> 01:32:02,280 Speaker 4: with self care is simple. Turn that motherfucking phone off 1993 01:32:02,280 --> 01:32:03,960 Speaker 4: and get your off that goddamn computer. 1994 01:32:06,240 --> 01:32:09,120 Speaker 2: Uh. For some people, no, no, no, no, I keeps laughing. 1995 01:32:09,160 --> 01:32:12,200 Speaker 2: I'm just laughing. This is not I'm not arguing. It 1996 01:32:12,280 --> 01:32:14,000 Speaker 2: was just funny the way you put it. My bad 1997 01:32:14,400 --> 01:32:16,840 Speaker 2: Get your fucking ass off that goddamn computer. I love 1998 01:32:16,880 --> 01:32:17,760 Speaker 2: your baby, go be great. 1999 01:32:17,840 --> 01:32:20,160 Speaker 4: I love, I love right, And like I said, I 2000 01:32:20,160 --> 01:32:22,160 Speaker 4: have a weird well showing love. I go Okay. Then 2001 01:32:22,160 --> 01:32:24,520 Speaker 4: I'm gonais show your phone here and be like God 2002 01:32:24,560 --> 01:32:24,960 Speaker 4: Dan and do. 2003 01:32:24,920 --> 01:32:27,920 Speaker 2: Some good in the world. Baby, like the mic go 2004 01:32:28,000 --> 01:32:28,800 Speaker 2: I damn conquer it. 2005 01:32:28,960 --> 01:32:34,600 Speaker 3: Why because this, she says, Uh, Sunday. 2006 01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:35,800 Speaker 2: Night shows a photo all the past week. 2007 01:32:36,280 --> 01:32:38,719 Speaker 3: Because this is my professional Twitter account for professional individuals 2008 01:32:38,720 --> 01:32:40,120 Speaker 3: in my field. Following me, I had to delete the 2009 01:32:40,160 --> 01:32:42,040 Speaker 3: tweet at this I've just seen you a private even 2010 01:32:42,120 --> 01:32:42,960 Speaker 3: on feedback show. 2011 01:32:43,160 --> 01:32:44,920 Speaker 2: Even though I know this is gonna be read aloud. 2012 01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:47,320 Speaker 3: It's a little bit different than walking into Monday morning 2013 01:32:47,439 --> 01:32:49,280 Speaker 3: when some of your mutuals like, oh, I saw your 2014 01:32:49,320 --> 01:32:52,560 Speaker 3: podcast recommendation, let me check it out, and you see emoji. 2015 01:32:52,240 --> 01:32:53,760 Speaker 2: Kisses and searing his. 2016 01:32:55,840 --> 01:32:58,040 Speaker 3: All in all, caring abroud. You guys are constant in 2017 01:32:58,040 --> 01:33:01,559 Speaker 3: the ever changing world. Uh you know, we're constantly changing. 2018 01:33:01,800 --> 01:33:02,680 Speaker 2: That's what really are. 2019 01:33:03,400 --> 01:33:05,920 Speaker 3: It's almost like you all see into the future and 2020 01:33:06,560 --> 01:33:09,120 Speaker 3: are well aware of how empathetic and patient we should 2021 01:33:09,120 --> 01:33:10,520 Speaker 3: be with each other and with ourselves. 2022 01:33:11,479 --> 01:33:12,240 Speaker 2: Man, I'm just. 2023 01:33:12,320 --> 01:33:15,400 Speaker 3: That's just something I'm trying to lean into for myself. 2024 01:33:15,439 --> 01:33:18,880 Speaker 3: It's not even about everybody else, like and I mean, 2025 01:33:18,920 --> 01:33:21,080 Speaker 3: it's I felt like I lost that piece of myself 2026 01:33:21,280 --> 01:33:24,599 Speaker 3: and so being in these communities and shit like being 2027 01:33:24,600 --> 01:33:28,160 Speaker 3: in certain groups around certain people, like is that energy 2028 01:33:28,160 --> 01:33:31,519 Speaker 3: out of me? And it was making me feel like 2029 01:33:31,960 --> 01:33:34,640 Speaker 3: boxed in in a way. And it's not And this 2030 01:33:34,720 --> 01:33:37,360 Speaker 3: is not something I've fought people for. I have to 2031 01:33:37,360 --> 01:33:39,799 Speaker 3: control what I can control, and I can control people's 2032 01:33:39,840 --> 01:33:43,559 Speaker 3: access to me. I can control my time and my 2033 01:33:43,760 --> 01:33:46,880 Speaker 3: effort and the things like that. But it was really 2034 01:33:46,920 --> 01:33:50,120 Speaker 3: starting to affect me, and I was starting to see 2035 01:33:50,120 --> 01:33:52,160 Speaker 3: the world as such a black and white place and 2036 01:33:52,240 --> 01:33:56,000 Speaker 3: such a such a I don't know, like a place 2037 01:33:56,040 --> 01:33:58,240 Speaker 3: where just everything had to be. 2038 01:33:58,439 --> 01:34:00,599 Speaker 2: This person is terrible to card all this shit. 2039 01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:04,599 Speaker 3: I make jokes about it, but I'm closer to a 2040 01:34:04,640 --> 01:34:07,439 Speaker 3: prison abolitionist than I am to a fucking lock them 2041 01:34:07,479 --> 01:34:08,200 Speaker 3: all up person. 2042 01:34:08,320 --> 01:34:10,280 Speaker 2: Right, you guys, listen to the show. You know what 2043 01:34:10,320 --> 01:34:10,799 Speaker 2: I believe. 2044 01:34:10,880 --> 01:34:16,360 Speaker 3: But but like, certain people were turning me off so badly. 2045 01:34:16,880 --> 01:34:18,840 Speaker 3: You know, people that call him, you know, they claim 2046 01:34:18,840 --> 01:34:21,200 Speaker 3: a cause and then they act ill behind the calls, 2047 01:34:21,280 --> 01:34:25,120 Speaker 3: and that shit is so bad for everyone, And we're 2048 01:34:25,160 --> 01:34:28,160 Speaker 3: all exposed to these things and experiencing them constantly. It's 2049 01:34:28,240 --> 01:34:31,320 Speaker 3: not good, you know. So it was really about a 2050 01:34:31,360 --> 01:34:34,759 Speaker 3: fight to get back to myself. And I have always 2051 01:34:34,840 --> 01:34:38,479 Speaker 3: possessed these ideas and spoken them. But I've decided that 2052 01:34:38,520 --> 01:34:41,639 Speaker 3: if people are gonna be very bold and everybody's trash 2053 01:34:41,720 --> 01:34:44,799 Speaker 3: and fuck everybody and throw everybody away and don't forgive anyone, 2054 01:34:45,080 --> 01:34:47,040 Speaker 3: then let me be fucking bold in my truth. Because 2055 01:34:47,040 --> 01:34:49,280 Speaker 3: I'm not some fucking koon. I'm not some uncle Tom. 2056 01:34:49,600 --> 01:34:53,519 Speaker 3: I'm not some fucking misogynistic loser. I'm not some fucking 2057 01:34:54,040 --> 01:34:58,479 Speaker 3: rape defender. I'm not some fucking racist person like I like, 2058 01:34:59,200 --> 01:35:02,120 Speaker 3: I'm trying to be a good empathetic human being as 2059 01:35:02,200 --> 01:35:04,040 Speaker 3: much as I can, and somebody should put that out 2060 01:35:04,040 --> 01:35:06,599 Speaker 3: with confidence too, instead of being like, you know. 2061 01:35:07,000 --> 01:35:08,599 Speaker 2: I don't know, I can. I mean, are we sure 2062 01:35:08,680 --> 01:35:10,600 Speaker 2: that we should just be this way? Noah, let me 2063 01:35:10,640 --> 01:35:12,719 Speaker 2: say it with my chats. This is how I feel. 2064 01:35:12,800 --> 01:35:14,240 Speaker 2: You don't have to agree, but at least you know 2065 01:35:14,280 --> 01:35:15,080 Speaker 2: how I feel for real. 2066 01:35:16,200 --> 01:35:18,160 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for putting our quality content when 2067 01:35:18,200 --> 01:35:20,720 Speaker 3: I can learn, laugh at and ignore my coworkers with 2068 01:35:21,120 --> 01:35:22,080 Speaker 3: all the love in the world. 2069 01:35:22,200 --> 01:35:23,040 Speaker 2: Chee chee, thank you. 2070 01:35:25,120 --> 01:35:29,360 Speaker 3: And then James says, episode nineteen eighty two and Confederate 2071 01:35:29,400 --> 01:35:32,400 Speaker 3: stuff abroad, Hey, the Blackout tips. First off, I have 2072 01:35:32,520 --> 01:35:34,080 Speaker 3: to say that I love the show. Been listening since 2073 01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:36,200 Speaker 3: here and Rod calling up twelve blacking it up. Oh 2074 01:35:36,280 --> 01:35:38,760 Speaker 3: that's old school right anyway. I just want to let 2075 01:35:38,800 --> 01:35:41,800 Speaker 3: you know that white folks are Confederate crazy in other 2076 01:35:41,840 --> 01:35:44,000 Speaker 3: parts of Europe. I think you mentioned a sword wild 2077 01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:45,920 Speaker 3: and guy in London. Check out this pick and it's 2078 01:35:45,960 --> 01:35:49,000 Speaker 3: a picture of a table with a bunch of Confederate 2079 01:35:49,080 --> 01:35:49,840 Speaker 3: member billion on it. 2080 01:35:51,479 --> 01:35:52,280 Speaker 2: Check out this pic. 2081 01:35:53,200 --> 01:35:55,960 Speaker 3: I'm a US citizen black living in Hamburg, Germany, and 2082 01:35:56,200 --> 01:35:59,479 Speaker 3: was visiting an arts and craft tan area within a 2083 01:35:59,520 --> 01:36:01,840 Speaker 3: wild life preserve and saw this. 2084 01:36:02,040 --> 01:36:03,400 Speaker 2: It was taken two weeks ago. 2085 01:36:03,960 --> 01:36:05,439 Speaker 3: I took a pick because I thought it was the 2086 01:36:05,479 --> 01:36:08,680 Speaker 3: most random place for casual racism. Keep it the great work, 2087 01:36:08,680 --> 01:36:10,760 Speaker 3: and thanks for helping us black folks abroad and not 2088 01:36:10,800 --> 01:36:12,799 Speaker 3: lose our minds away from our people best. 2089 01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:15,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, they have laws to be like, y'all can't fucking 2090 01:36:15,120 --> 01:36:17,439 Speaker 4: do this Nazi flag, But what they can do is 2091 01:36:17,479 --> 01:36:18,200 Speaker 4: Confederate shit. 2092 01:36:18,400 --> 01:36:18,960 Speaker 2: I don't know why. 2093 01:36:19,000 --> 01:36:21,360 Speaker 3: I had never fucking thought of this until last week. Like, 2094 01:36:21,439 --> 01:36:23,599 Speaker 3: until reading that Sored story, I was like, wait a minute, 2095 01:36:24,640 --> 01:36:29,360 Speaker 3: the way people collect other people's racism, they gotta be 2096 01:36:30,240 --> 01:36:32,040 Speaker 3: Jarvis says Accountability Podcast. 2097 01:36:32,120 --> 01:36:34,840 Speaker 2: Wow, just wild. Hey Rody Karen currently. 2098 01:36:34,479 --> 01:36:37,120 Speaker 3: In the middle episode nineteen seventy five, way behind, I know, 2099 01:36:37,280 --> 01:36:40,360 Speaker 3: but I have comments and I gotta say this shit. 2100 01:36:40,800 --> 01:36:42,320 Speaker 2: I love y'all and can't stand y'all. 2101 01:36:42,200 --> 01:36:44,559 Speaker 3: At the same time, the kind of can't stand that 2102 01:36:44,640 --> 01:36:46,560 Speaker 3: when your best friend said something like you didn't have 2103 01:36:46,600 --> 01:36:48,120 Speaker 3: a gust to say it, but it's funny as hell. 2104 01:36:48,160 --> 01:36:50,160 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I know what you mean, Like nigg I 2105 01:36:50,160 --> 01:36:51,080 Speaker 3: can't stand y'all. 2106 01:36:51,280 --> 01:36:52,880 Speaker 2: You know, I get it. You a fool? 2107 01:36:53,160 --> 01:36:57,040 Speaker 3: Yeah that I came you know that thing and writing 2108 01:36:57,120 --> 01:37:00,320 Speaker 3: it inviting it looks bad, but in real life it's like, yeah, 2109 01:37:00,360 --> 01:37:03,000 Speaker 3: I get it. I came upon this podcast from a 2110 01:37:03,080 --> 01:37:05,040 Speaker 3: post and a Facebook group listening to podcasts that did 2111 01:37:05,080 --> 01:37:07,360 Speaker 3: game of throngs with cats. I'm gonna say those were 2112 01:37:07,400 --> 01:37:09,280 Speaker 3: lit Like I wish I could go back in time 2113 01:37:09,320 --> 01:37:11,240 Speaker 3: and re experience those for the first time. But now 2114 01:37:11,280 --> 01:37:13,680 Speaker 3: I'm here to say I'm gonna put five on it too. 2115 01:37:13,760 --> 01:37:16,080 Speaker 3: I already got five stars holding my place. Now I 2116 01:37:16,200 --> 01:37:19,360 Speaker 3: just gotta find the worst to lift up YouTube content Royals, 2117 01:37:19,520 --> 01:37:21,840 Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you boy. As a G on the 2118 01:37:22,000 --> 01:37:25,080 Speaker 3: LGBT Plus Spectrum, I used to think of myself as 2119 01:37:25,080 --> 01:37:28,160 Speaker 3: an automatic ally to all other family members, but this 2120 01:37:28,240 --> 01:37:30,280 Speaker 3: show really puts me in check about that, and I 2121 01:37:30,320 --> 01:37:33,240 Speaker 3: love it. I'm constantly checking my own privilege growing up 2122 01:37:33,360 --> 01:37:35,519 Speaker 3: and growing as I game on information. Man, I love 2123 01:37:35,560 --> 01:37:38,800 Speaker 3: y'all for that. Yeah, I mean, everybody got some level 2124 01:37:38,800 --> 01:37:43,800 Speaker 3: of privilege, and everybody on some level you know is 2125 01:37:43,840 --> 01:37:46,479 Speaker 3: all you know, probably gonna be marginalized at some point. 2126 01:37:46,640 --> 01:37:50,120 Speaker 3: So yeah, man, you can, like Karen says, you can 2127 01:37:50,120 --> 01:37:53,240 Speaker 3: be on the LGERB the elder G and then be 2128 01:37:53,360 --> 01:37:54,759 Speaker 3: like fuck the B Fuck the ty. 2129 01:37:55,160 --> 01:37:56,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of them are like them. Rest of them. 2130 01:37:56,800 --> 01:37:59,120 Speaker 3: Let us Chappelle has some fucked U stuff in the 2131 01:37:59,160 --> 01:38:01,680 Speaker 3: Spence stand up, but that one analogy about the car 2132 01:38:01,720 --> 01:38:04,479 Speaker 3: and the LGBTQ on the ride like that, that's a 2133 01:38:04,600 --> 01:38:06,519 Speaker 3: very after analogy. And when you see it play out 2134 01:38:06,560 --> 01:38:09,040 Speaker 3: all the time, like we got marriage quality, we out 2135 01:38:09,439 --> 01:38:10,639 Speaker 3: we putting out. 2136 01:38:10,880 --> 01:38:12,639 Speaker 2: You know, we've seen it. We've seen it in real time. 2137 01:38:12,960 --> 01:38:14,760 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for sharing the audio from your 2138 01:38:14,760 --> 01:38:17,160 Speaker 3: public form. I think back to episode in nineteen sixty five, 2139 01:38:17,600 --> 01:38:19,600 Speaker 3: such good content, and you did your thing editing in 2140 01:38:19,640 --> 01:38:23,160 Speaker 3: that audio. I was like, this ain't bad at all. Oh, 2141 01:38:23,200 --> 01:38:25,880 Speaker 3: thank you, this ain't bad at all. Right, I can't 2142 01:38:25,880 --> 01:38:28,160 Speaker 3: say so much, but this email is already long. I'm 2143 01:38:28,160 --> 01:38:30,280 Speaker 3: going premium, so I'm ready to play guest the race. 2144 01:38:30,400 --> 01:38:30,719 Speaker 2: Lol. 2145 01:38:30,800 --> 01:38:36,760 Speaker 3: By friends, We appreciate you, and uh yeah that I'm 2146 01:38:36,760 --> 01:38:38,280 Speaker 3: glad the audio worked out, because I don't. 2147 01:38:38,400 --> 01:38:39,080 Speaker 2: I'm never sure. 2148 01:38:40,800 --> 01:38:43,639 Speaker 3: Let's see Nachelle Wright saying, hey, guys, guard your joy 2149 01:38:43,720 --> 01:38:46,200 Speaker 3: on episode nineteen eighty two, Rod I said guard your 2150 01:38:46,280 --> 01:38:48,479 Speaker 3: joy and that really resonated with me. 2151 01:38:48,600 --> 01:38:49,719 Speaker 2: It's so true. Lud show. 2152 01:38:50,000 --> 01:38:53,000 Speaker 3: Thank you, Michelle, thank you. Oh man, she still listen. 2153 01:38:53,080 --> 01:38:54,960 Speaker 3: That's dope, man. I always see it her on Twitter. 2154 01:38:54,960 --> 01:38:55,880 Speaker 4: I've been around a long. 2155 01:38:55,800 --> 01:38:58,800 Speaker 2: Down tweeting out that trust black women every morning. I 2156 01:38:58,840 --> 01:38:59,120 Speaker 2: don't know. 2157 01:38:59,360 --> 01:39:01,040 Speaker 3: I don't tweet us. You just wake up every morning 2158 01:39:01,320 --> 01:39:03,519 Speaker 3: like blood a on your face. Y'all gonna see this 2159 01:39:03,600 --> 01:39:07,439 Speaker 3: today and I'm like, so, states the dashing Nah, I 2160 01:39:07,479 --> 01:39:07,960 Speaker 3: don't do that. 2161 01:39:08,920 --> 01:39:10,960 Speaker 2: I wouldn't trust her like that. No, we would not. 2162 01:39:11,160 --> 01:39:12,920 Speaker 3: I be thinking it though, I'd be like, I should 2163 01:39:12,920 --> 01:39:15,960 Speaker 3: trull her today. Start just replying to that with different 2164 01:39:16,000 --> 01:39:18,360 Speaker 3: gifts of black women. We know we not to trust 2165 01:39:19,439 --> 01:39:23,400 Speaker 3: his Candice owns you niggas are crazy, Lamar says, Thank god, 2166 01:39:23,400 --> 01:39:27,120 Speaker 3: I work third shift alone. I was at my desk 2167 01:39:27,200 --> 01:39:30,920 Speaker 3: in the basement of a hospital and it Sully. You 2168 01:39:30,960 --> 01:39:34,280 Speaker 3: know when episode nineteen eighty Licking in the Tones came 2169 01:39:34,320 --> 01:39:35,560 Speaker 3: on when Karen started. 2170 01:39:35,280 --> 01:39:39,920 Speaker 2: Preaching, she hit that high pitch. Do this, nigga? 2171 01:39:39,960 --> 01:39:43,080 Speaker 3: I lost it, spit coffee all over my monitors. Literally 2172 01:39:43,920 --> 01:39:45,879 Speaker 3: was this episode? Responsibley trying a winecoe? 2173 01:39:45,880 --> 01:39:49,400 Speaker 2: Because y'all own one. Anyway. I love you guys, and 2174 01:39:49,520 --> 01:39:50,040 Speaker 2: what you doing. 2175 01:39:50,040 --> 01:39:53,719 Speaker 3: I'm sending five stars your way and going premium this weekend. 2176 01:39:53,880 --> 01:39:56,200 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. For putting some happiness in my life. 2177 01:39:56,360 --> 01:39:58,479 Speaker 3: I'll be moving to our hospital and Raleigh in de cemmer, 2178 01:39:58,560 --> 01:40:00,519 Speaker 3: so I hope to catch a live show. I wish 2179 01:40:00,600 --> 01:40:03,160 Speaker 3: you more and more success and happiness. Peace, thanks of mine, 2180 01:40:03,240 --> 01:40:08,160 Speaker 3: Thank you, and enjoy your job. Move and sorry about 2181 01:40:08,160 --> 01:40:08,920 Speaker 3: your computer matter. 2182 01:40:09,840 --> 01:40:12,080 Speaker 2: Know what Cam was thinking? Just very responsible? 2183 01:40:12,960 --> 01:40:16,240 Speaker 3: Uh, sleep says asleep. Mister Spann says, it's this science 2184 01:40:16,280 --> 01:40:18,879 Speaker 3: is fake news. Everybody knows you get rich by not sleeping. 2185 01:40:19,240 --> 01:40:20,320 Speaker 3: All the rappers tell me so. 2186 01:40:20,960 --> 01:40:22,840 Speaker 2: Yeah and see and Apple Pay. 2187 01:40:23,280 --> 01:40:26,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm in Apple Pae, apple Care. 2188 01:40:26,200 --> 01:40:35,519 Speaker 3: Apple Care, Apple, Apple Pay, Apple, Michael Wright said Pastor Rod, Uh, 2189 01:40:35,600 --> 01:40:38,760 Speaker 3: it must be a god first to the time long time. 2190 01:40:38,800 --> 01:40:40,600 Speaker 3: I've become a premium member a few months ago, and 2191 01:40:40,640 --> 01:40:43,519 Speaker 3: I've been balls deep in the premium content. The black 2192 01:40:43,520 --> 01:40:46,920 Speaker 3: outis Premium content is radio gold. It literally hundreds, maybe 2193 01:40:46,920 --> 01:40:50,200 Speaker 3: thousand hours of dope material. I've been binging the pregame 2194 01:40:50,240 --> 01:40:52,519 Speaker 3: and I listened to the hilarious episode called the Clowning 2195 01:40:52,520 --> 01:40:56,679 Speaker 3: of Brian Pumper. Oh you and dad boy, My god, 2196 01:40:56,760 --> 01:41:00,720 Speaker 3: they roasted that young man and his pumper plastics. Imagine 2197 01:41:00,800 --> 01:41:03,599 Speaker 3: getting clowned by your coworkers that wear dirty white socks 2198 01:41:03,600 --> 01:41:08,160 Speaker 3: and tims during film Quoitus. Damn Homie. I wonder if 2199 01:41:08,160 --> 01:41:11,360 Speaker 3: he's still wearing the pumper plastics. Hey, Brian, what color 2200 01:41:11,400 --> 01:41:12,000 Speaker 3: is your neck? 2201 01:41:12,439 --> 01:41:12,919 Speaker 2: Anyway? 2202 01:41:13,560 --> 01:41:16,200 Speaker 3: That the same day and I'm listening to episode nineteen 2203 01:41:16,240 --> 01:41:18,479 Speaker 3: eighty on the regular feed and I hear a classic melody. 2204 01:41:18,800 --> 01:41:20,599 Speaker 2: Oh and it's shaved. I literally cracked. 2205 01:41:20,600 --> 01:41:25,360 Speaker 3: And when you played if a pastor tongue roll as, 2206 01:41:26,040 --> 01:41:29,040 Speaker 3: it must be god, it must be a god. Right, Well, 2207 01:41:29,080 --> 01:41:31,240 Speaker 3: maybe it's a good time regardless, I needed that laugh. 2208 01:41:31,520 --> 01:41:35,880 Speaker 3: Great episode is always I hope there's another endorsement to 2209 01:41:35,960 --> 01:41:38,280 Speaker 3: sign up signing up for premium. Just sign up and 2210 01:41:38,320 --> 01:41:44,160 Speaker 3: don't ask no questions. Yes, just plastic paid around okay. 2211 01:41:44,760 --> 01:41:50,320 Speaker 3: And last one is by Slick, slick and slatious. Okay, 2212 01:41:50,720 --> 01:41:54,760 Speaker 3: Black Goddess Queen. It's not hotemperary, Hey, Ryan and Kerr 2213 01:41:54,800 --> 01:41:55,960 Speaker 3: and the Black Altis community. 2214 01:41:56,000 --> 01:41:59,320 Speaker 2: First thing, first, my pronouns are they them? Gotcha? 2215 01:42:00,320 --> 01:42:02,479 Speaker 3: Now that the intros out of the way, I really 2216 01:42:03,760 --> 01:42:07,280 Speaker 3: liked y'all discussion on cultural diffusion, natural cross cultural exchange 2217 01:42:07,360 --> 01:42:08,480 Speaker 3: versus cultural appropriation. 2218 01:42:09,040 --> 01:42:12,800 Speaker 2: Y'all stay with the nuance that they put the collapse 2219 01:42:12,880 --> 01:42:13,160 Speaker 2: in there. 2220 01:42:13,400 --> 01:42:16,000 Speaker 3: Also, I know Rod you mentioned keeping some things for 2221 01:42:16,040 --> 01:42:19,040 Speaker 3: yourself and black representation, but lol, if it ain't prying 2222 01:42:19,080 --> 01:42:22,360 Speaker 3: too much, I wonder if y'all seen American Gods. Oh, 2223 01:42:22,400 --> 01:42:25,400 Speaker 3: I watched that. I watched both seasons. By the way, 2224 01:42:25,520 --> 01:42:27,439 Speaker 3: I don't know why people was mad the second season. 2225 01:42:27,439 --> 01:42:28,439 Speaker 2: That shit was lit to me. 2226 01:42:29,320 --> 01:42:32,679 Speaker 3: You know why because speaking of the opening, the motherfucking 2227 01:42:32,680 --> 01:42:38,160 Speaker 3: watchman Man, American guys talk about that system thing about it, 2228 01:42:38,280 --> 01:42:41,280 Speaker 3: like I don't know they maybe, I mean, I don't know, 2229 01:42:41,400 --> 01:42:43,400 Speaker 3: maybe it's really not a good show, and people are right. 2230 01:42:43,479 --> 01:42:43,960 Speaker 2: I don't know. 2231 01:42:44,439 --> 01:42:46,960 Speaker 3: I just know they be talking about racism and it's 2232 01:42:47,000 --> 01:42:49,800 Speaker 3: American and they talk about the slave trade when the 2233 01:42:49,920 --> 01:42:53,080 Speaker 3: Nazi went off on that, like that black anger and 2234 01:42:53,120 --> 01:42:55,280 Speaker 3: that slavery vote on the ship and all them slaves 2235 01:42:55,320 --> 01:42:58,280 Speaker 3: knew they was gonna die, but they was like, fuck this, 2236 01:42:58,400 --> 01:42:59,320 Speaker 3: white people ain't. 2237 01:42:59,080 --> 01:43:00,760 Speaker 2: Taking us to America. We just gonna be one of. 2238 01:43:00,680 --> 01:43:03,559 Speaker 3: Them shift that's at the bottom of the Atlantic, Like Nigga, 2239 01:43:03,880 --> 01:43:04,639 Speaker 3: they don't put. 2240 01:43:04,439 --> 01:43:05,479 Speaker 2: That on TV often. 2241 01:43:06,320 --> 01:43:09,800 Speaker 3: Oh in that speech he gave, Now, I fuck with 2242 01:43:09,840 --> 01:43:11,559 Speaker 3: that show. I just don't like talking about it because 2243 01:43:11,560 --> 01:43:14,559 Speaker 3: I don't like arguing with these niggas. Niggas anything black 2244 01:43:14,640 --> 01:43:16,439 Speaker 3: is a double edge swing on social media. It's like 2245 01:43:16,479 --> 01:43:18,080 Speaker 3: watch it, watch it, we all watching it, and then 2246 01:43:18,080 --> 01:43:22,160 Speaker 3: you gotta deal with to me sometimes unfair harsh critiques. 2247 01:43:22,160 --> 01:43:26,960 Speaker 2: Man, And I don't I get that. Some people's jam 2248 01:43:27,000 --> 01:43:28,679 Speaker 2: so I don't. I don't yuck. They're young. 2249 01:43:28,760 --> 01:43:30,439 Speaker 3: To tell them that they gotta like it or to 2250 01:43:30,439 --> 01:43:33,439 Speaker 3: stop arguing. I don't do that, but they don't understand. 2251 01:43:33,479 --> 01:43:37,519 Speaker 3: Sometimes they put they make it suck for me, like 2252 01:43:37,600 --> 01:43:40,000 Speaker 3: I don't actually have to give a fuck that you're 2253 01:43:40,040 --> 01:43:43,360 Speaker 3: so offended about everything. Everything with race gotta be one 2254 01:43:43,400 --> 01:43:44,639 Speaker 3: hundred percent perfect all the. 2255 01:43:44,560 --> 01:43:46,320 Speaker 2: Time, and you just gonna lose your mind. Like I'm 2256 01:43:46,360 --> 01:43:48,400 Speaker 2: good anyway. 2257 01:43:50,479 --> 01:43:52,800 Speaker 3: It has some black people playing guys, and we never 2258 01:43:53,240 --> 01:43:55,439 Speaker 3: we next to never see black people being portrayed as 2259 01:43:55,520 --> 01:43:56,599 Speaker 3: positively divine. 2260 01:43:56,960 --> 01:44:00,640 Speaker 2: Bill Quist for MCU or Royal Storm, Yes, she do 2261 01:44:00,760 --> 01:44:01,360 Speaker 2: got that look. 2262 01:44:02,640 --> 01:44:06,800 Speaker 3: Also like the episode where she was sucking motherfuckers into 2263 01:44:06,800 --> 01:44:12,280 Speaker 3: her vagina as part of the worship ritual thing sacrificing themselves. 2264 01:44:12,280 --> 01:44:14,439 Speaker 3: I was like, oh this is that was actually when 2265 01:44:14,479 --> 01:44:15,400 Speaker 3: I said, oh this show is. 2266 01:44:15,400 --> 01:44:16,040 Speaker 2: On some other ship. 2267 01:44:16,120 --> 01:44:21,479 Speaker 3: Okay, you had my attention now now now you have 2268 01:44:21,600 --> 01:44:25,320 Speaker 3: my full my my full heart right now, Okay, I 2269 01:44:25,320 --> 01:44:28,720 Speaker 3: want to know what the fuck is happening Vagina. They 2270 01:44:28,760 --> 01:44:31,719 Speaker 3: also has some revolutionary perspectives that helps that they can apply. 2271 01:44:31,840 --> 01:44:35,080 Speaker 3: A Nazi also switches between different types of black accents, yes, 2272 01:44:35,560 --> 01:44:36,000 Speaker 3: which at. 2273 01:44:35,880 --> 01:44:37,800 Speaker 2: First I didn't know what was going on. It was 2274 01:44:37,840 --> 01:44:38,599 Speaker 2: like what the fuck right? 2275 01:44:38,600 --> 01:44:40,280 Speaker 3: I'm sure people was like this new You can't act 2276 01:44:40,360 --> 01:44:42,160 Speaker 3: like Orlando Jones can't act Get the fuck out of 2277 01:44:42,160 --> 01:44:44,800 Speaker 3: my face. And I'm sure y'all will appreciate some of 2278 01:44:44,840 --> 01:44:48,120 Speaker 3: the Bill quick sings. Oh I see you, you after 2279 01:44:48,160 --> 01:44:51,439 Speaker 3: my heart. I know you know I'm you. I said 2280 01:44:51,439 --> 01:44:53,320 Speaker 3: it on here all the time. I'm on Instagram to 2281 01:44:53,360 --> 01:44:55,680 Speaker 3: look at but I don't even try to like hide that. 2282 01:44:56,200 --> 01:44:59,439 Speaker 3: It's not you didn't catch me slipping. I just you know, 2283 01:44:59,600 --> 01:45:02,160 Speaker 3: I know, I mean you know why I and uh 2284 01:45:02,400 --> 01:45:06,599 Speaker 3: that woman that plays Bill quiz Uh is uh sexy, 2285 01:45:06,840 --> 01:45:11,479 Speaker 3: dark skinned woman that has a lot of sex scenes 2286 01:45:11,479 --> 01:45:13,519 Speaker 3: and you know when you see you're like, oh my god, 2287 01:45:14,120 --> 01:45:16,400 Speaker 3: she's so fine. I would do and then she starts 2288 01:45:16,400 --> 01:45:20,160 Speaker 3: sucking people. Whether Johnny, You're like, it's like that gift 2289 01:45:20,200 --> 01:45:24,560 Speaker 3: for the woman with the I'm like, I mean maybe. 2290 01:45:25,320 --> 01:45:26,320 Speaker 4: I might consider it. 2291 01:45:26,439 --> 01:45:30,599 Speaker 2: I mean, uh, if y'all ain't seen it. Check it out. 2292 01:45:30,720 --> 01:45:31,240 Speaker 2: He has care. 2293 01:45:31,280 --> 01:45:32,800 Speaker 3: And it took me a few episodes to realize you 2294 01:45:32,840 --> 01:45:35,920 Speaker 3: sing along with the lgbt Q song because you're. 2295 01:45:35,800 --> 01:45:39,040 Speaker 2: You be harmonizing on the track. I think some people 2296 01:45:39,040 --> 01:45:41,360 Speaker 2: would make the difference. By some people, I mean. 2297 01:45:44,040 --> 01:45:46,439 Speaker 4: I told him, I was like, we can't sang. He 2298 01:45:46,520 --> 01:45:48,080 Speaker 4: said no, no. 2299 01:45:50,920 --> 01:45:52,880 Speaker 2: He didn't really seem to have much cause he seemed 2300 01:45:52,880 --> 01:45:54,479 Speaker 2: to understand we can know. 2301 01:45:54,640 --> 01:45:58,280 Speaker 4: I told him he was trying to be nice about ship. 2302 01:45:58,560 --> 01:46:01,720 Speaker 3: Oh man, hold on, let me follow all right, we 2303 01:46:01,760 --> 01:46:03,960 Speaker 3: got cut off in the real time during the chat. 2304 01:46:04,200 --> 01:46:06,120 Speaker 3: Guys on the podcast want here to cut off of Karen, 2305 01:46:06,160 --> 01:46:07,000 Speaker 3: you will finish your thought? 2306 01:46:07,080 --> 01:46:09,640 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, because you know he was trying to be 2307 01:46:09,720 --> 01:46:11,800 Speaker 4: nice about it. But I was like, oh no, no, no, no, baby, 2308 01:46:11,800 --> 01:46:14,560 Speaker 4: we can't saying you ain't got to be cute. You 2309 01:46:14,600 --> 01:46:17,920 Speaker 4: can sing. You have a gorgeous voice, and we've heard 2310 01:46:17,920 --> 01:46:21,360 Speaker 4: you singer many a times. I just be playing in 2311 01:46:21,360 --> 01:46:25,080 Speaker 4: your field. I'm terrible singer, and. 2312 01:46:26,000 --> 01:46:28,800 Speaker 3: I don't know about music and acoustics like that. And 2313 01:46:28,840 --> 01:46:30,880 Speaker 3: that double the points double the race doesn't mean we 2314 01:46:30,960 --> 01:46:35,519 Speaker 3: guessing the race about racial people does not know what 2315 01:46:35,560 --> 01:46:35,880 Speaker 3: I mean. 2316 01:46:38,120 --> 01:46:39,360 Speaker 2: Sometimes I can't do. 2317 01:46:39,280 --> 01:46:42,120 Speaker 3: Stories because the people are too racially ambiguous, Like I 2318 01:46:42,160 --> 01:46:43,120 Speaker 3: don't know what that says. 2319 01:46:42,920 --> 01:46:45,760 Speaker 2: About me, but you're like, I got to know. The 2320 01:46:45,800 --> 01:46:47,479 Speaker 2: game's so fucked up, you know. 2321 01:46:47,640 --> 01:46:49,040 Speaker 4: It's like I don't want no questions. 2322 01:46:49,080 --> 01:46:51,360 Speaker 3: I should started doing those and giving everyone like like 2323 01:46:51,400 --> 01:46:53,920 Speaker 3: the bingo square's just the free square. 2324 01:46:54,520 --> 01:46:56,040 Speaker 2: It's like whatever you guess you was right. 2325 01:46:56,160 --> 01:46:58,120 Speaker 3: We don't know what this person looks like because races 2326 01:46:58,160 --> 01:47:01,360 Speaker 3: are made up construct and it's all right, uh. 2327 01:47:03,320 --> 01:47:05,759 Speaker 2: Uh that that and when. 2328 01:47:05,600 --> 01:47:08,559 Speaker 4: You mistakenly, you know, we didn't have like the race 2329 01:47:08,600 --> 01:47:10,000 Speaker 4: in the article, which I don't know why. 2330 01:47:10,600 --> 01:47:13,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you for the thank you for listening, and 2331 01:47:13,880 --> 01:47:14,400 Speaker 2: thank you for. 2332 01:47:14,400 --> 01:47:21,000 Speaker 3: The the feedback on it, especially the culture appropriation thing, man, 2333 01:47:21,040 --> 01:47:23,200 Speaker 3: because I'm not going into it again. But it's just 2334 01:47:23,240 --> 01:47:25,200 Speaker 3: one of those topics where you talk about it and 2335 01:47:25,240 --> 01:47:27,160 Speaker 3: people kind of cherry pick what they want to hear, 2336 01:47:27,200 --> 01:47:30,200 Speaker 3: and then everybody wants to like give you soapbox on 2337 01:47:30,280 --> 01:47:32,360 Speaker 3: it and ship and it's like, man, we covered everything. 2338 01:47:32,360 --> 01:47:35,840 Speaker 3: It's just it's just very complicated and and not as 2339 01:47:35,840 --> 01:47:38,160 Speaker 3: straightforward as as folks who like it to be, because 2340 01:47:38,400 --> 01:47:40,800 Speaker 3: gross ship is not black and white. Man, It's just not. 2341 01:47:41,680 --> 01:47:43,559 Speaker 3: You know, if you can't live in that then then 2342 01:47:43,560 --> 01:47:45,559 Speaker 3: this is gonna be a very uncomfortable show for folks. 2343 01:47:45,640 --> 01:47:47,720 Speaker 3: And you know, but there's a lot of people that 2344 01:47:47,760 --> 01:47:50,200 Speaker 3: are shown that like us being true to ourselves and 2345 01:47:50,240 --> 01:47:53,479 Speaker 3: living in that grade. Talking about these things has been 2346 01:47:53,479 --> 01:47:54,920 Speaker 3: a rewarding experience, and I'm. 2347 01:47:54,760 --> 01:47:57,080 Speaker 2: Glad people can fuck with it. Okay. 2348 01:47:57,920 --> 01:48:01,240 Speaker 3: I didn't leave my family cookout without eating so that 2349 01:48:01,479 --> 01:48:02,080 Speaker 3: I could. 2350 01:48:01,840 --> 01:48:02,800 Speaker 2: Go here and feel bad. 2351 01:48:03,040 --> 01:48:05,320 Speaker 3: Come on, all right, y'all. We'll talk to y'all later 2352 01:48:05,320 --> 01:48:06,960 Speaker 3: in the week. Until then, I love you. 2353 01:48:07,080 --> 01:48:08,040 Speaker 2: I wh