1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show our number two. 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: Buck on the road for the next couple of days 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: with his family on a summer break. He'll be back 4 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: with me on Monday. Appreciate all of you hanging out 5 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: with us. We just got through talking with Senator Marsha 6 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: Blackburn of Tennessee. Michael Wattley will be with us at 7 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: the bottom of the hour. He is going to be 8 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: running for Senate in North Carolina to try to replace 9 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: Tom Tillis. Senator Tim Scott will be with us in 10 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: the third hour. It's just me, you and all of 11 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: us having a good time here on the rest of 12 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 1: today and tomorrow as we are rolling through so many 13 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: different stories that are out there. And we went to 14 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: break first hour, we talked about the out of control 15 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: violence and how President Trump is trying to get Washington, 16 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: DC back to some form of safety, and I mentioned 17 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: looking at capital cities as a proxy for the excellence 18 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: of a nation at large. If you're a history nerd 19 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: like i am, Washington, d C was a planned capital city. 20 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: And one of the things that's really amazing when you 21 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 1: walk around Washington, d C. Is they designed so many 22 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: of these massive roads, and when they designed it, there 23 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: was almost nothing there. And if you read the history 24 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: of say Washington, d C. From the eighteenth from the 25 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: nineteenth century, and even the early parts of the nineteen hundreds, 26 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: people would talk about how the city was designed for 27 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: a country to be the greatest in the history of 28 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: the world, but it wasn't there yet, and so as 29 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: a result, it was just these massive, massive roads planned 30 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: city with almost nothing on either side. And I always love, 31 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:07,639 Speaker 1: if you study history, the metaphor of the Capital Dome. 32 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: During the Civil War, Lincoln insisted that the construction of 33 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: the Capital Dome continue, and if you look at old 34 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: photos in the eighteen sixties of Washington, DC, you can 35 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: see them working on that majestic Capital Dome. And it 36 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 1: was very expensive and it required a great deal of steel. 37 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: And some people criticized Lincoln, but his explanation was, the 38 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: nation is still being built and preserved. I'm not going 39 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: to stop work on the nation's capital because this is 40 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 1: an important symbol of what this nation represents, and eventually 41 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: of the nation coming together and healing anew And it's 42 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: such a profound idea, and I give I don't know 43 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: how many of you saw this Senator Sorry Secretary of 44 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 1: Defense Pete Hegseith. They just announced that they're going to 45 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: bring back a reconciliation monument at Arlington Cemetery that was 46 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: created by a Confederate veteran. And the idea is to 47 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: bring the nation together again and sort of bind the 48 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: wounds of the nation. And I think one of the 49 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: greatest speech has ever given in the history of the 50 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: United States was Lincoln's second Inaugural Address and the nation 51 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: as a whole being brought together even with his killing 52 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: in Ford's Theater. If you visit DC today, you'll come 53 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: across the bridge that connects Virginia and Washington, d C. 54 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: And a lot of people don't talk about it now, 55 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: but at the time that bridge was created, it was 56 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: seen as a symbolic union of North and South, in 57 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: particular Robert E. Lee's Arlington, which is on the bluff 58 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: overlooking the Potomac River in Washington, D C. You can 59 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: stand on the portrait of Arlington or on the steps 60 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 1: on the backside of the Lincoln Memorial and see those 61 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 1: two places. So you have the leader of the Confederate Army, 62 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: Robert E. Lee, looking directly at Lincoln's memorial and the 63 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: Lincoln Memorial reflecting in some way Arlington as well. And 64 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: that union of the bridge, bringing the two sides of 65 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 1: the country back together again, was seen at the time 66 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 1: that it was made as a profoundly symbolic statement. And 67 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: I think President Trump gets symbol and he understands that 68 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: things are more important than maybe what they appear to be, 69 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: and that is what symbol is, right, And so people 70 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: get mad when he says, well, I want Alcatraz to 71 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: exist as a prison. He sees that as a symbol 72 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: for a message that he wants to have out there, 73 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 1: Alligator Alcatraz. He grips the public imagination. And I think 74 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: what President Trump sees with Washington d C. Is we 75 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: can't say that we are a fabulous, undisputed champion of 76 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 1: the global economy and world if kids are getting mowed 77 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: down in the streets of Washington, d C every day. 78 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 1: Our capital city needs to be a jewel. It needs 79 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: to be the best of what America can represent, particularly Washington, 80 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: d C, which I said historically has existed for that 81 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 1: reason throughout time. They took that location as opposed to Philadelphia, 82 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: which had been a capital as a posed to New 83 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: York City, to create something new as a symbol for 84 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: a country that was going to be a global beacon 85 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: of freedom and opportunity. And how can you allow violent 86 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: crime to take it over and not see that as 87 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 1: a direct attack upon American exceptionalism itself. And think about this. 88 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: I mentioned this earlier and before, but capital homicide rates, 89 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: this is most recent homicide rates forty one per one 90 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: hundred thousand Washington, d C. That's a huge number, forty 91 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: one per one hundred thousand. Listen to some of these 92 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: other capital cities. These other countries don't stand for that, 93 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: I think because their leaders understand the symbolic importance of 94 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: having a safe and secure and vibrant and objectively beautiful 95 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: capital city. Lima, Peru. I don't think most of you 96 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 1: out there say you know what country, But let me 97 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:08,799 Speaker 1: just give you a bunch of these different countries. Lima, Peru, Havana, Cuba, Nairobi, Kenya. 98 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: I think, am I right about that? By the way, 99 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: this is going to expose my own lack of geographical knowledge. Brazilia, Brazil. 100 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: I believe Brazilia, Brazil is also a planned capital. Lagos, Nigeria, Bogata, Colombia. 101 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: I think I'm going to pass the test here. Mexico City, Mexico, 102 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: Adisa a Baba, Ethiopia. Okay, those are other big capital cities. 103 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: DC forty one murders per one hundred thousand, Lima, Peru 104 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: seven per one hundred thousand, Havana, Cuba, four per one 105 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: hundred thousand, Nairobi, Kenya five per one hundred thousand, Brazilia. 106 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: People talk about how violent and dangerous Brazil is all time. 107 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: Brazilia thirteen per one hundred thousand, Lagos, Nigeria fifteen per 108 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: one hundred thousand, Bogata, Colombia eleven per one hundred thousand, 109 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: Mexico City eight per one hundred thousand, Adisa Baba, Ethiopia 110 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: six per one hundred thousand. It should be a dark 111 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: stain on America that our capital city of Washington, D C. 112 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 1: Has five times the murder rate of Mexico's capital city. 113 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: What are we doing? That's a national embarrassment. Ethiopia, Colombia, Nigeria, Brazil, Kenya, Cuba, Peru, 114 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: all of them infinitely safer in their capital cities than 115 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: you and me and everybody is going around in Washington, 116 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: D C. That is a national embarrassment. Now we just 117 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: finished the hour. We had an emailer who said, hey, 118 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: maybe we have to go after parents for some of 119 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: this violent crime. And I said, I'm a little bit. 120 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: I accept it on some level, but I don't accept 121 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 1: it on another level because I think what you would 122 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:22,439 Speaker 1: see is that many of the kids that are engaging 123 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: in violent behavior are actually not living at home. Grandma 124 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: and Grandpa might be raising them, aunts, uncles, foster parents. 125 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: I think, really, when you look at violent crime, what 126 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: you see almost overwhelmingly is the absence of father figures 127 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: in the household. This is really the root cause. If 128 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: you have a dad and a mom in your house, 129 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:56,439 Speaker 1: the odds of you engaging in violent behavior plummet by 130 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:02,959 Speaker 1: a massive amount. Kids still have moms dads are failing. 131 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,439 Speaker 1: So my concern here is you got a sixteen year 132 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: old who takes a gun out and shoots somebody, and 133 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: then you decide to prosecute mom, who is the only 134 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: one that was trying to raise that kid, and dad, 135 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: who hasn't shown up for sixteen years, may not even 136 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:27,479 Speaker 1: be on the birth certificate, he doesn't have any consequences 137 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: at all. Well, it's him that made it happen. So 138 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: my concern when Bo writes in, and I think it's 139 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: an interesting comment, is that what would end up happening 140 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: is the moms and the grandma's and the aunts and 141 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: all the women who are very often doing their darnedest 142 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: to try to raise that kid who's got an absent dad, 143 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: and may have an absent grandpa too, because a lot 144 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: of what you find out is when dad's not there, 145 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: it's often the case that grandpa wasn't there, and unfortunately 146 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 1: that great grand Paul wasn't there either, because it's hard 147 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: to break that cycle. And some of you out there 148 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: listening know what I'm talking about, because you're trying to 149 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: break the cycle. You're the dad that's present. You know 150 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: what it was like to not have a dad better 151 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: than anybody. So my concern is when you say, well, 152 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: let's prosecute the parents, you got poor mom who's working 153 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: three jobs and doing her darnness to take care of 154 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 1: a kid that dad had no interest in. And dad 155 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: doesn't have any culpability at all, even though he's actually 156 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: the cause. So I think if you go back up 157 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: the chain of causation, oftentimes gun violence and violent teenagers 158 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: actually started when dad didn't show up at the birth 159 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: at the hospital, and dad hasn't been around for sixteen 160 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: years or seventeen years to that point. In many ways, 161 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 1: these are young men who have not been raised to 162 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: be in and they are angry at the world and 163 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: they take out their anger on the world, and all 164 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: that anger starts because Dad's not home. So when I 165 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: think through holding mom accountable, Mom's doing her best to 166 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 1: raise that kid by herself, and she's got three jobs 167 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: and the kid, as a result, doesn't have somebody at 168 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 1: home whipping him into shape like a dad hopefully would, 169 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: and he falls in with the wrong guys in the 170 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 1: neighborhood and next thing you know, he's dealing drugs or 171 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: he's trying to carjack and Mom's out there trying to 172 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: do her best, and then you come home and you 173 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: charge her with a crime. And then she may have 174 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: two younger kids that she's also trying to raise, and 175 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: how does that benefit society? So that's when I work 176 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: through it. I like to go to what caused the problem, 177 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: not to just what's connected to the problem. And to me, 178 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: what caused the problem is Dad's not there, And I 179 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: think the number this is my big you know, get 180 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: on a pre box argument. I think the number one 181 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: issue that unites much of what is going on in 182 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: the country today of a negative level is Dad's not there. 183 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 2: I didn't. 184 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 1: It connects on everything. Families not having enough money to 185 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: feed the kids. Dad's not there, families that are dealing 186 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: with incredible violence, Dad's not there. If you go to 187 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: the lint. This is my personal opinion. If I could 188 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: change one thing, every kid that's born has a dad 189 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: at home, I think our national rates of violence would 190 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: drop by ninety percent. I think poverty would drop by 191 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: ninety percent. I think if dad is home, the overall 192 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: collapse of much of what we see going wrong in 193 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 1: American society, it doesn't exist. So my concern responding to 194 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: BO is you're actually going to hold accountable the mom, 195 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: the grandma, the ant, the foster family that's trying to 196 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 1: take it, to take this responsibility of dad that he 197 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: didn't fulfill, and then they get blamed because everything doesn't 198 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: go perfect. That's my concern, and that's why I get 199 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: a little bit nervous about holding parents responsible criminally, because 200 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: so many people are doing everything they can to help 201 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: to try to fill the void that is there because 202 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: Dad's not home. That's it, right. You go look at 203 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: rates of crime. It collapses in every household where dad is, 204 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: they are raising a sun And by the way, it's 205 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: almost all boys. And the data actually reflects meaning committing 206 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: the crimes. The data actually reflects that young girls have 207 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: far less negative consequences from an absent male figure in 208 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: a household than young boys do. Moms do their best. 209 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: They can't be dad and mom. I think young girls 210 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: see mom and that's an aspirational figure for them. And 211 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: it's still better for you, young girls if dad is home. 212 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: But what the data shows is boys outcomes collapse when 213 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: dad's not home. That's the reality. That's a tough conversation. 214 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: That's a real conversation that we should be having, but 215 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: too many people are afraid to talk about it. 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But we're about to head down to 254 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: or over to, depending on what part of the country 255 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: you're in, maybe up to North Carolina to go talk 256 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: with Michael Wattley, who is potentially going to be hopefully 257 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:38,360 Speaker 1: going to be the next Senator from North Carolina as 258 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: we get wrapped in for what will probably be the 259 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: single most expensive Senate battle in twenty twenty six. So 260 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 1: we will break down all of that with him and 261 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: what he's expecting to see going forward. 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Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. 285 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: We are rolling through the Thursday edition of the program, 286 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: and we head now to the great state of North Carolina, 287 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: where Michael Wattley is engaged in the campaign to become 288 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: the next Senator to represent the state of North Carolina. 289 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,880 Speaker 1: We had you on, I know for sure, in Milwaukee 290 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 1: right after President Trump survived his assassination attempt. I'm not 291 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: sure if we've had you on since then. So first 292 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: let me say congratulations on an incredibly well done job 293 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty four election on behalf of the 294 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 1: Republican National Committee and getting everything done there. And now 295 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: tell us about the campaign that you are embarking upon 296 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: in North Carolina. 297 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 2: Well, it's very exciting. I mean, the opportunity to be 298 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 2: the next Senator from the great state of North Carolina 299 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 2: and fight every single day for every single community and 300 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 2: every single family, and you know, be an ally for 301 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 2: President Trump and make sure that we are moving that 302 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 2: great state and our entire country forward. 303 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:13,239 Speaker 1: What is your expectation for what this campaign is going 304 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 1: to look like? Expectations are I think it's basically written 305 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 1: in stone that Roy Cooper is going to be the 306 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: Democrat nominee. He's been elected statewide before. Tom Tillis is 307 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: a Republican senator that is stepping down. So this is 308 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: an important seat given the fifty three forty seven current 309 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 1: balance in the Senate. I said, it's probably going to 310 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: be the most expensive race in twenty twenty six. You're 311 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: going to have to raise a lot of money. You're 312 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 1: going to be running around like crazy. What should people 313 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: know about this race, both in North Carolina and outside, Well. 314 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,199 Speaker 2: Look, you are absolutely right, it's going to be the 315 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 2: most expensive Senate race in the country. So we're going 316 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 2: to need everybody to go to widelypersenate dot com and 317 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:57,199 Speaker 2: make sure that they contribute and they support. But you know, 318 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 2: we're looking in excess of five to six hundred million 319 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 2: dollar dollar I think will be spent all in on 320 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 2: that race. And it is the marquee Senate race in 321 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 2: the entire country because it's going to be, you know, 322 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 2: a big hold for the Republicans in a very purple state. 323 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 2: North Carolina is a fifty to fifty state. President Trump 324 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 2: managed to win by three point two percent in this 325 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 2: last election cycle, and when we have a fully informed electorate, 326 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 2: we're going to be in a good position to hold 327 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 2: that race. But you know, Roy Cooper did win two 328 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 2: times in a row. So we know that he's going 329 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 2: to bring a ton of money to the race, and 330 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 2: it's going to be competitive. But when people sit back 331 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 2: and really truly think about what they want for the state, 332 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 2: they want a strong economy, they want safe kids and communities, 333 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 2: and they're really going to want to make sure that 334 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 2: our military bases are getting what they need to protect 335 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 2: our interests and allies around the world, and our vets 336 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 2: are getting the support that they need for having done 337 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 2: that over the course of their careers. So I am 338 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 2: in a much better position than Roy Cooper to work 339 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 2: with President and make sure that we're going to deliver 340 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 2: for North Carolina and really truly move that state forward. 341 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:08,679 Speaker 1: I'm sure you've seen it, but this is something that 342 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: really strikes me. I live next door in Tennessee Roy Cooper. 343 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 1: I saw a viral video of him several months ago 344 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 1: where he was asked whether men should be able to 345 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 1: compete in women's sports, and he ran from answering it. 346 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: He actually has tried to support it on some levels 347 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: even though he got elected. Isn't he really culturally out 348 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:30,679 Speaker 1: of step with the average North Carolinian? 349 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 3: He is? 350 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,439 Speaker 2: You know, he voted he vetoed three different bills that 351 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 2: would keep boys out of girls' sports. You know, so 352 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 2: this guy is definitely out of out of step with 353 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 2: the state. You know, I think that if you look 354 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 2: at his votes when he was a state legislator, you 355 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 2: look at his vetos, you know, it is basically safe 356 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 2: to say he's going to fight harder every day for 357 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 2: you know, tax hikes, and he's going to fight for 358 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 2: boys and girls sports, and he's going to fight to 359 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 2: take away your pickup trucks. And on the other hand, 360 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 2: you know, I don't think that's really where the state is. 361 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 2: That's certainly not where I am. I'm going to fight 362 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 2: for a very strong economy, state kids, state schools, and 363 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 2: we're really making sure that we are going to be 364 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 2: in a position to move that state forward. 365 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: How are things going in western North Carolina after Hurricane Helene? 366 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,919 Speaker 1: Obviously the timing of this storm, right in the middle 367 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 1: of a major election calendar cycle like it was in 368 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 1: twenty four helped to bring a spotlight to it, but 369 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 1: the Biden administration's response was frankly indefensible. Over the weeks 370 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: and months after there, I flew into Ashville, I saw 371 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 1: it myself. How are things now, things are. 372 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 2: Better, you know, And honestly, we've had story after story 373 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 2: after story that have come out basically saying that between 374 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 2: Joe Biden, FEMA, and Roy Cooper, they were nowhere to 375 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 2: be found after that storm hit on September twenty seventh, 376 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 2: and it wasn't until January twentieth when Donald Trump came 377 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 2: into office and said, we are going to take care 378 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 2: of North Carolina. He asked me to help make sure 379 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 2: that we got the resources into the state to be 380 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 2: able to help them. And since then, we have seen 381 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,199 Speaker 2: billions of dollars that is going you know, from the 382 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 2: federal government to homeowners, to small business owners, and to 383 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,919 Speaker 2: the local governments to make sure they're getting the relief 384 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 2: that they want. And you know, President turned around and 385 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 2: asked me to turb on a FEMA reform Commission to 386 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 2: be able to review FEMA and make sure that the 387 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 2: response that we saw from the federal and state governments 388 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 2: last year never happens again. 389 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: President Trump won North Carolina twenty sixteen, twenty twenty twenty four. 390 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,199 Speaker 1: You were instrumental in all three of those wins in 391 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: the state. Why do you think he has had such 392 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,719 Speaker 1: appeal in North Carolina, And how do you think he 393 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,959 Speaker 1: will impact next year's midterm election. 394 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 2: You know what Donald Trump does better than anybody else 395 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 2: in our lifetime is he listens to the voters, understands 396 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 2: the issues that they care about, and put solutions on 397 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 2: the table. And so, you know, he has been completely 398 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 2: in sync with North Carolin line of voters who want 399 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 2: to see a strong economy, want to see say communities, 400 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 2: and really truly want America to be the best country 401 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 2: in the world. And that's what he's putting on the table. 402 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 2: He's delivering every day. You know, today is two hundred 403 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 2: days into his term, and you can just see that 404 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 2: this is the most transformative, you know, term in our lifetime. Really. 405 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 2: I mean, it's remarkable what he has been able to 406 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,719 Speaker 2: do in just two hundred days and set us up 407 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 2: on a track because he's delivering on the promises that 408 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 2: he made. So the voters of North Carolina trust him, 409 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 2: they voted for him, They're going to listen to him. 410 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,199 Speaker 2: And coming in as a Trump endorsed candidate in this 411 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 2: race gives me a tremendous leg up. It's not just 412 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 2: in the in the primary, but it's in the general 413 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 2: where I'm going to be facing off against Roy Cooper 414 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 2: because the voters really like that America First agenda, and 415 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 2: we're going to make sure that we deliver for North 416 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 2: Carolina First. 417 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: It's fifteen months roughly until the actual midterm election day. 418 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:04,719 Speaker 1: What does a fifteen month campaign look like from your perspective. 419 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 2: Well, look, I mean I as the state Party chair, 420 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 2: I went to every single county, all one hundred North 421 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 2: Carolina counties every year, and I got a chance to 422 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 2: meet with people in every single community. I think you 423 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 2: need to do that. I think you need to be 424 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 2: out there. I think you need to have the conversations. 425 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 2: You know, North Carolina is an amazingly diverse state. We 426 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 2: have the second largest banking center in the entire country. 427 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 2: We have ag and agribusiness are the number one business 428 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 2: for North Carolina is farming. We also have rural communities, 429 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 2: and we have Charlotte and Raleigh, So it is it 430 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 2: is a state where you're going to have to go 431 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 2: out and talk to every single community, and I think 432 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 2: that we're going to take a lot of time to 433 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 2: do that. We're also going to have to make sure 434 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 2: that we have the resources there to go out and 435 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,199 Speaker 2: tell our story all day every day, and it's just 436 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 2: going to be a matter of working every single day 437 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 2: so that people in the state know. You know that 438 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 2: you listen to them, you understand what they care about, 439 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 2: and you're putting solutions on the table. 440 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 1: Look, we're willing able to help you as much as 441 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,199 Speaker 1: we possibly can. I know it's going to be a 442 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 1: big battle over the next fifteen months. Just let us 443 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: know when you need to come on when we can help, because, 444 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 1: like you just said, that five hundred and six hundred 445 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: million dollar bill for this race, it's going to be 446 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 1: almost impossible to escape. 447 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it really is. And I appreciate that. You know, 448 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 2: you guys, you have such a good finger on the pulse. 449 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 2: You know, and your listeners all across this country know 450 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 2: exactly what we're talking about when we say that there 451 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 2: are two visions for America in this country right now, 452 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 2: the Democrats are absolutely going hardcore, straight left. They haven't 453 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 2: learned a thing from the twenty twenty four election cycle. 454 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 2: They're doubling down on stupid. The Democratic agenda right now 455 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 2: is open borders, inflationary spending, and a week America. That's 456 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 2: where Roy Cooper lives, that is his ideological center is 457 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,199 Speaker 2: far left and that's not what North Carolina needs. So 458 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 2: we're going to need everyone, one of your listeners to 459 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 2: go to wadleypercentate dot com, make a contribution, join the movement, 460 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,439 Speaker 2: and make sure we keep that seat red and that 461 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,239 Speaker 2: Donald Trump is going to have an ally in the 462 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,719 Speaker 2: Senate and North Carolina is going to have a champion 463 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 2: in the Senate. 464 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: We got your back. We appreciate you. Let us know 465 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: how we can help in the next fifteen months. 466 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 2: Excellent, Thank you, sir. 467 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: That's Michael Wattley, who we hope is the next Senator 468 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,199 Speaker 1: from North Carolina. We'll take some of your calls, We'll 469 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: get some of your talkbacks, some of your emails when 470 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 1: we come back. In the meantime, I want to tell 471 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,120 Speaker 1: you I mentioned it. I've got three boys seventeen, fourteen, 472 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 1: ten years old. You know, when we had our first kid, 473 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: I didn't know what to expect, but I wanted to 474 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 1: make sure that if something God forbid happened to me, 475 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: that that kid was going to be taken care of. 476 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: And I bet that a lot of you out there, 477 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: dad's moms, grandma's grandpas have had the same thoughts as 478 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: you have looked at your younger family members. Maybe you're 479 00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: out there every single week, it feels like every month, holidays, 480 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 1: trying to mediate the disputes that go on in your family. 481 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: Everybody out there knows what that feelings like. Hey, who 482 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: can sit at the same table? Hey are we even 483 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: going to go to the same place? Have you thought 484 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: about what your family will do when you're not there 485 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: to solve all the problems when you're not there to 486 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: be the peacemaker. Have you thought about who's going to argue? 487 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: Have you thought about who's going to get in screaming matches? 488 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: Couldn't you maybe do something to try to keep that 489 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: from happening? The answer is yes, it's a will and 490 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: a trust. And I know that can sound a little 491 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 1: bit intimidating, and maybe it's not the greatest thing to 492 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 1: think about, But if you think about in the context 493 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: of trying to solve family problems, and if you think 494 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: about it in the context of trying to keep your 495 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: kids and grandkids, your cousins, your aunts, your uncles from 496 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: all fighting over what you might want if you weren't there, 497 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: why not just control that and tell them exactly what 498 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: you want. That's the purpose of a trust in a Will. 499 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: It's why I have one, It's why I think you 500 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 1: should have one. 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Make it clear at trustinwill dot com slash Clay. 509 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 1: That's my name, Clay for twenty percent off Trustinwill dot 510 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 1: com slash Clay. You ain't imagining it. 511 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 3: The world has gone insane. We claim your sanity with 512 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 3: Clay and funding. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app 513 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 3: or wherever you get your podcasts. 514 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay, Travis Vox Sexton show a lot 515 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: of people reacting to our discussions so far. Let me 516 00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: get to some of the talkbacks. A lot of dads. Look, 517 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 1: let me say this before we hear from some dads. 518 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: I understand that lots of relationships can be toxic right 519 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 1: on both the male and the female side. So I'm 520 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: not trying to dear abby your individual relationships or call 521 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 1: guys out who are trying to be involved in their kids' 522 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: lives but have relationship issues with the moms such that 523 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: that doesn't happen, because I feel like when I talk 524 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: about generalized stories and this is this is true, and 525 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 1: I understand it. On some level, people want to call 526 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 1: in and give me anecdotes while the generalize why the 527 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: generalized story isn't true. For instance, if I said to you, 528 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: and this is not a very serious thing, women tend 529 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: to like taller men. Inevitably people reach out and they're like, well, 530 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: I'm a woman and I like shorter men. Okay, your 531 00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: individual experience doesn't erase the general rule. Right, general rule, 532 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 1: men like women who are not overweight. General rule exception, 533 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 1: some men they like overweight women. Right, So your individual 534 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: experience doesn't cancel out the fact that women are far 535 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: more likely to be raising children in absent male father 536 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: households than women are to be blocking dads who want 537 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: to be super involved from being involved. Does that make sense? 538 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: So I'm going to take some of these calls, but 539 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 1: your individual interaction with your wife or the mother of 540 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: your children. Doesn't erase the fact that overwhelmingly this is 541 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: an issue. And by the way, do you know where 542 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: it is the biggest issue black families? Right, there's some 543 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 1: element out there where you're not allowed to talk about 544 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 1: racial difference, but this is one, and I talk about 545 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 1: it in my new book because I've been thinking about 546 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: these kind of things a lot. And obviously I think 547 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 1: about it because I'm a dad and I'm raising boys, 548 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 1: and I want them to be good dads one day 549 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 1: and raise boys and girls of their owns that'd be 550 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: my grandkids. I want them to be strong leaders and 551 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: foundational rocks for their families. If you go and look 552 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 1: democrats out there are people on the left they will say, well, 553 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 1: the black family. The reason why black men are not 554 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 1: as present as fathers who are Asian, for instance, right, 555 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 1: Like you ever wonder why Asian crime rates in the 556 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 1: United States are like a pinprick of what Black crime 557 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 1: rates are. For instance, go look at the percentage of 558 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 1: Asian dads that are in the house raising their kids. 559 00:33:55,400 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 1: It's almost a direct correlation. So Asian families buying law large. 560 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 1: Dad is there. Black families A lot of times dad 561 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 1: is not there. Kids are the unfortunate result who commit 562 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,760 Speaker 1: violent acts. It's far more likely for a black kid 563 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 1: with or with a parent that's not there to commit 564 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: a violent act. So my point on this is you 565 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 1: look at the data and you extrapolate beyond it, and 566 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 1: what's really interesting is people say, well, that's racism, right, 567 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 1: and in fact, everybody just hold on. I'm going to 568 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 1: take your cause because I don't want to rush you. 569 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 1: I will take your calls. At the top of the 570 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: next hour, I'll hit the talkbacks. Everybody, just hang on 571 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 1: with me. We don't have a guest. At the top 572 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: of the hour, will continue this conversation. But they'll say, oh, well, 573 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: that's because of racism. You know what's really astounding and 574 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 1: gets almost no attention. Black fathers were present before Lbj's 575 00:34:55,239 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: Great Society. That stuns a lot of people because you think, oh, well, 576 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 1: there was a lot more racism. You're right in the 577 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: nineteen twenties, in the nineteen thirties and the nineteen forties. 578 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 1: In the nineteen fifties, you were far more likely if 579 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 1: you were a black kid to be born in a 580 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:18,320 Speaker 1: house with a mom and a dad. In the twenties, thirties, forties, 581 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 1: fifties pre civil rights? How did that happen? Why isn't 582 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 1: there any discussion about that? Wait a minute. I was 583 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 1: told those were the most racist times ever and that 584 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 1: was completely unacceptable to have black families. Well, the black 585 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: family unit was stronger before civil rights. I think, can 586 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 1: people get riled up? They don't like me trying to 587 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 1: explain what the data shows. You can go look it up. 588 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:50,240 Speaker 1: It's one hundred percent sury. I think the black family, 589 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 1: to a large extent traded the black dad for big government, 590 00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 1: and big government became the father figure of the black family. 591 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,840 Speaker 1: And also this happened with white families and Asian families 592 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 1: and Hispanic families too, But it's the most pronounced. Go 593 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: look at it. Think about that. Why would black fathers 594 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 1: have been far more likely to be present in the 595 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 1: home in the nineteen fifties than in the twenty twenties. 596 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 1: How does that happen? How did seventy years later we 597 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 1: go backwards in terms of the role of father figures 598 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:28,800 Speaker 1: in many different communities in this country. How does that happen? 599 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 1: We're told that progress is always happening, Yet for many 600 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 1: kids out there, your dad is less likely to be 601 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 1: present now than it was in the nineteen fifties, and 602 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,360 Speaker 1: what has that meant and why does it, in my opinion, 603 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 1: directly correlate with acts of violence skyrocketing in this country. 604 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 1: We'll talk about it. I'll take some of your calls. 605 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 1: You guys can all react. Get you popcorn, Third hour 606 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:56,800 Speaker 1: playing Buck coming up.