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Speaker 1: Hello, Texans, Welcome to the program. On the eve of

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Speaker 1: the preseason premiere when the Texans take out of the

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Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings in Minneapolis, can't wait for the show on

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Speaker 1: the radio on tv ABC thirteen. It'll be Kevin Coogler,

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Speaker 1: n D Kalu, John Harris, and Shelby Coppage on the sideline.

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Speaker 1: Andre Ware and I have the call on radio right here,

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Speaker 1: so it'll be good just to see the Texans get

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Speaker 1: going against an opponent. They had the simulated game Thursday.

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Speaker 1: Last night, we talked all about that, their scrimmage, how

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Speaker 1: it went, the big injury, the really good things that

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Speaker 1: we saw in that scrimmage. And it doesn't conclude training

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Speaker 1: camp now that the preseason games are here, but it

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Speaker 1: sort of feels like it, and we talked about that

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Speaker 1: a bit last night. So tonight we wanted to get

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Speaker 1: into some of the best content we had throughout training camp.

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Speaker 1: Johnny and I did a number of morning programs eight

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Speaker 1: to ten am. We did ten of those shows back

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Speaker 1: at the Houston Methodist Training Center and at the Greenbrier

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Speaker 1: as well, so we thought we'd reflect back on some

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Speaker 1: of the heavy hitters we had, and some of this

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Speaker 1: involves what's going on presently with the Texans. Some of

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Speaker 1: it involves the past. We're gonna start out with Hall

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Speaker 1: of Famer Andre Johnson. This time last year, we were

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Speaker 1: all celebrating Drake getting into Canton. Well he's in now

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Speaker 1: and he's at training camp practice an awful lot, and

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Speaker 1: John and I had a chance to visit with him.

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Speaker 1: We were actually breaking down wide receivers when he stopped by,

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Speaker 1: so we asked him to talk about Nico Collins and

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Speaker 1: the group, and who better to do it but Andre Johnson.

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Speaker 2: It's an exciting group, a bunch of talent, you know,

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Speaker 2: just being ouhead of the day Saturday, it was watching

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Speaker 2: the first practice, well my first practice, watching just a

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Speaker 2: great group of talent, a bunch of talent tank guys,

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Speaker 2: and you know, it's kind of it's so much talent,

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Speaker 2: it's kind of like, how do you you know, maneuver.

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Speaker 3: Through all of it.

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Speaker 2: So very excited, if I had to say one guy,

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Speaker 2: I'm very excited for Metchi this year to see like,

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Speaker 2: you know where it goes. You know, just with him

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Speaker 2: everything he's been through, you know, with the health stuff

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Speaker 2: and like now he's got a couple of years under

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Speaker 2: his belt. So now to see, like you know, if

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Speaker 2: he steps into that role, I really think he can

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Speaker 2: be a big component this season.

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Speaker 3: So very excited to see what happens for him and

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Speaker 3: this shit.

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Speaker 4: Andre, You went through this when Gary Kubiak got here,

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Speaker 4: and that's changing the offense. That's what these guys are

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Speaker 4: going through. It's a new offense. Some of it some

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Speaker 4: of them heard some of it not. But for you,

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Speaker 4: when you went to a new offense, what was kind

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Speaker 4: of that like for you, it was kind of the

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Speaker 4: in that new offense.

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Speaker 2: What the thing was you had to Gary challenged me.

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Speaker 2: He came up to me after the first year and

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Speaker 2: he was like, man, I need you to learn everything

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Speaker 2: about his offense. And that's what I did. I learned

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Speaker 2: everything he because he moved me around so much. And

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Speaker 2: I think somebody like Nico, so many people tell me,

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Speaker 2: like David, he reminds me so much of you. But

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Speaker 2: a guy like Nico, you you can move him around,

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Speaker 2: put him in different spaces. You can put him in

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Speaker 2: a like Nico, even though he's a big guy, you

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Speaker 2: can put him in a slot you can put him outside,

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Speaker 2: you can motion him out the backfield, You could do

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Speaker 2: so many things with him, and uh, you know that's

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Speaker 2: something that you know, a creative mind, you know they

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Speaker 2: when I was playing, so super excited to see, you

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Speaker 2: know what they the things they.

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Speaker 3: Do with them.

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Speaker 1: So this offense supposed to have some West Coast elements

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Speaker 1: and also the Patriot type Bill O'Brien offense. If you will,

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Speaker 1: you've played in both of them. Here, what do you

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Speaker 1: think it might look like when we see it on

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Speaker 2: Well, Uh, I was more I played in both, but

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Speaker 2: I was more favorite to the West Coast. That was

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Speaker 2: this is what's going to happen. But I will say

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Speaker 2: that Bill O'Brien gave you more options as a quarterback

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Speaker 2: to make adjustments at the line of scrimmage, where in

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Speaker 5: Okay, I try. I asked this question. Just bear with me.

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Speaker 4: What's one thing you miss about training camp? What's one

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Speaker 4: thing you absolutely do not miss about training camp as

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Speaker 3: To be honest, is nothing I miss about.

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Speaker 5: You say it.

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Speaker 2: I don't miss nothing about any of it, you know.

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Speaker 2: I have people like I was out here the other

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Speaker 2: day of practice and people was like, man, you don't

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Speaker 2: miss playing. I don't miss any of it at all. Actually,

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Speaker 2: when I'm out here looking at it, I'm always like,

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Speaker 2: how was I able to do this for fourteen years? So,

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Speaker 2: to be honest, it makes you makes you ask more

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Speaker 2: coming out though watching it. I love watching practice and

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Speaker 2: I'm a I'm a huge fan of football.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, But you have said you do miss the

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Speaker 1: camaraderie in the locker room, that kind of stuff. How

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Speaker 1: much of that happens during training camp, that team bonding

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Speaker 1: if you will.

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Speaker 2: Man, that's that's the thing I would say, Like I

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Speaker 2: tell people all the time, that's the thing you missed

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Speaker 2: the most. The plane rides, the bus rides, being in

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Speaker 2: to have, ah, it was a pull up bar in

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Speaker 6: I remember that, you know.

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Speaker 2: So it was like we started teams and we had

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Speaker 2: like a whole tournament, you.

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Speaker 5: Know, and you won the belt.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we wanted the belt. I was I was being

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Speaker 2: just things like that. Man, Like, it was almost like

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Speaker 2: you didn't want to go home, you know, like because

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Speaker 2: like you know, you was finished with meetings. You know,

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Speaker 2: of things of that nature, and we'll just start shooting

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Speaker 2: just being around the guys, and man, it was those

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Speaker 2: are the things you miss. So when we get together

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Speaker 2: now with the legends and things like that, it's still

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Speaker 2: the same way. Like it's hard for us to leave

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Speaker 2: after you know, we do something together.

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Speaker 3: Dre.

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Speaker 4: We're almost three hundred and sixty five days from when

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Speaker 4: you stood up and gave the last speech in Canton.

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Speaker 5: Now you're removed.

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Speaker 4: When you think back to that weekend and what it

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Speaker 4: so much about the people that you help, your family,

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Speaker 4: your mother, What do you think back to that weekend

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Speaker 4: in Canton and what was that all about and what

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Speaker 2: Man, that was a hell of a experience. I don't

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Speaker 2: really think words can really describe it. Like it was

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Speaker 2: a hell of a experience.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: I was out here the other day and I was

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Speaker 2: talking to one of the coaches and he was like, man,

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Speaker 2: like your party was like. He was like, you don't understand,

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Speaker 2: like what that did for us as a coaching staff.

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Speaker 2: Just them having a day off the next day and

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Speaker 2: just being in training camp and getting to just hang

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Speaker 2: a hell of experience. I'm actually leaving to go to

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Speaker 3: I got to see.

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Speaker 2: Sterling Sharp at the Brothers in Arms golf tournament. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: he came here, and man, when I saw him, I

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Speaker 2: just gave him a huge hug. It was one of

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Speaker 2: my favorite receivers growing up, and I felt like Sterling

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Speaker 2: should have been in the Hall of Fame for what

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Speaker 2: he did as a player in a short time of

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Speaker 4: Antonio Gates was it kind of like looking in a

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Speaker 4: mirror when you were looking at Sterling sharp because he

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Speaker 4: was you before you.

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Speaker 5: You just got the neck injury.

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Speaker 3: But he was a.

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Speaker 4: Big, physical receiver that could go deep, do everything on

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Speaker 4: he was like looking in the mirror and you're like

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Speaker 4: looking at the same guy. You guys are very similar

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he definitely physical. I mean, could do everything on

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Speaker 2: one of my favorite guys I watched growing up, him

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Speaker 2: and Jerry right. So to see him right after it

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Speaker 2: I just gave him a huge hug and just told him, like, man,

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Speaker 2: you should have been in, Like he was one of

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Speaker 5: One wait, two more.

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Speaker 1: We were debating what could you still do out here

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Speaker 1: in a game like you could play at least a

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Speaker 1: few snaps right now, asking you to play a few games.

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Speaker 5: But a few snaps probably you could get through that.

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Speaker 3: Just put being in the red zone from.

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Speaker 5: Do have to run that far? Just one, I'll just.

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Speaker 3: Throw it up, throw it up, let me go get it.

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Speaker 1: What about canes with Carson Beck? And isn't it weird

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Speaker 1: these days, Dray because you had cam Ward for one

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Speaker 1: year boom, and now let's go get Carson Beck and

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Speaker 1: pay him.

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Speaker 5: It's just so strange now in college listen.

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Speaker 2: I Uh, to be honest, I just I'm not I'm

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Speaker 2: not a huge fan of it, to be honest. We'll

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Speaker 2: just see what happens. I'm actually going down for the

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Speaker 2: opening game against Order Dame.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm honorary captain for the game. So uh, it'll

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Speaker 3: be an exciting time.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited to see how this season goes, especially after man,

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Speaker 2: when you have a cam Ward leave, man, it's hard

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Speaker 2: to replace him. So sper excited for him, you know,

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Speaker 2: with the Titans and what he has going on. But

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be that be kind of hard, you know.

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Speaker 2: But we'll see rappers.

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Speaker 5: All right, all right, last one for me. Mark and

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Speaker 5: I talk about this all the time.

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Speaker 4: It's been twenty four years since your two thousand and

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Speaker 4: one Canes team took the field. Has there been a

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Speaker 4: college football team since never that could step on the

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Speaker 4: field with that group?

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Speaker 2: Nah, We've I've had this conversation so many times.

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Speaker 5: So let alone, and you couldn't pay him to that.

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Speaker 2: Guys Kellen Winslow, junior guys are just on the team

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they did.

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Speaker 1: All right, there is a training camp visit we had

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Speaker 1: He stopped by our broadcast position and we had this

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Speaker 4: Have you heard his call of your touchdown a lot?

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Speaker 5: Well, let's hear it one more time.

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Speaker 1: This is an opening drive of the history of the

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Speaker 5: Thousand and two. Let's listen to this.

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Speaker 1: Here's car colleague signals, takes the snap, stands tall, throws

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Speaker 1: Touchdown Houston, David Carr te Pilly and Miller the first

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Speaker 5: Billy thoughts on that play.

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Speaker 6: The hair stood up on my neck too. It still

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Speaker 5: Do you remember the play call?

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Speaker 6: No, but I did remember looking at David and thinking

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Speaker 3: Nice.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well you would really extended for that, and the

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Speaker 6: I think the picture is more of a remembrance than

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Speaker 5: You know, It's funny. I wasn't here for that, Billy.

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Speaker 4: I got here later than that, But when I got

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Speaker 6: There be pictures all over the.

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Speaker 4: It was like, that was kind of my introduction to

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Speaker 5: What are you guys thinking on the sideline at that moment?

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Speaker 6: But first of all, for me, for that play, diving

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Speaker 1: That is strong stuff. So you started with the Broncos, right,

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Speaker 4: Bill, had you had any experience in Houston at all

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Speaker 6: I had never been to Houston. Yeah, it's too hot

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Speaker 1: So what do you remember about that camp, Because it

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Speaker 6: In that one both I did. I remember camp honestly,

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Speaker 5: Man, it was great, You're definitely stuck around.

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Speaker 4: You're gonna go back to the future today, Billy, because

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Speaker 5: What are your thoughts in your career as you look back.

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Speaker 1: I know what stands out that first game against Dallas

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Speaker 6: You know what I was like every single person that's here,

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Speaker 6: They released me. I came here, didn't think I would

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Speaker 4: times I end up thinking about the guys that are

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Speaker 4: on the fifty three man roster one week and they

444
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Speaker 4: practice squad for the next few weeks and they're back

445
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Speaker 4: on a fifty three and you talked about it. It's

446
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Speaker 4: a crind for those guys at the bottom ten for

447
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Speaker 4: the roster because you don't know when you're going to

448
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Speaker 4: cut down day am.

449
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Speaker 5: I getting cute and it could turn like it did

450
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Speaker 5: for you?

451
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Speaker 4: Was it as was it just that for you that

452
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Speaker 4: you couldn't get too high, you couldn't get too low.

453
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Speaker 5: You just kind of rode the wave. What was kind

454
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Speaker 5: of the.

455
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Speaker 4: Key in your career of just sticking to it year

456
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Speaker 4: after year, practice after practice.

457
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think those guys make up the majority of

458
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Speaker 6: the NFL. There's only a couple cjs, right, Like, those

459
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Speaker 6: those guys are elite status. They're gonna play as long

460
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Speaker 6: as they want to play. But the league is mixed

461
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Speaker 6: up with guys who are gonna play three four five.

462
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Speaker 6: I was lucky enough to be on Rockster for eleven years.

463
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Speaker 6: But like, the league is made up of those guys,

464
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Speaker 6: and those guys make the NFL. How many times you go,

465
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Speaker 6: what happened to he had a good season, Something happens,

466
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Speaker 6: maybe gets hurt, and then it's just over. So that's

467
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Speaker 6: kind of the NFL. It's we always hear about, you know,

468
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Speaker 6: the David Carr's back, you know for me, but that

469
00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,440
Speaker 6: team was made up of a bunch of guys who

470
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Speaker 6: just wanted to work hard and and be productive.

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Speaker 1: Billy Miller is joining us. Caught the first touchdown in

472
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Speaker 1: Texans history. So Billy a few more things here. As

473
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Speaker 1: Mike Tovin, president of the Houston Texans, walks by, this

474
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Speaker 1: is really is this your first time back to be

475
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Speaker 1: around the Texans legends, community members and all of that.

476
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Speaker 6: I came back one other time. I think it was

477
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Speaker 6: in twenty twelve. It was a ten year anniversary of

478
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Speaker 6: that game, Okay, and since then I have not been back.

479
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Speaker 6: This is my first time back in Houston. I'm gonna

480
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Speaker 6: be here for a week, so just kind of being

481
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Speaker 6: out here and loving it.

482
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Speaker 1: So when I go to a high school reunion, I

483
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Speaker 1: find that connecting with some of the people I wasn't

484
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Speaker 1: necessarily close those friends with it in high school is

485
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Speaker 1: really endearing.

486
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Speaker 5: It's kind of fun.

487
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Speaker 1: What is it like for you to connect with some

488
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Speaker 1: of the players that you didn't play with but have

489
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Speaker 1: a shared Texans experience.

490
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Speaker 6: Well, it's phenomenal too because I'm a football fan, right so,

491
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Speaker 6: and I'm a Texans fan, so I'm always you know,

492
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Speaker 6: I thought, you know, mister McNair was was one of

493
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Speaker 6: the greatest human beings that's ever walked this earth. I

494
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Speaker 6: really loved mister McNair, so I was rooting. Even if

495
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Speaker 6: I was playing against him, I was rooting for him. Okay,

496
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Speaker 6: I wanted him to get a Super Bowl, wanted his

497
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Speaker 6: family to be a part of something special because I

498
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Speaker 6: feel like they do still deserve it. And so I've

499
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Speaker 6: watched a lot of guys, a lot of these guys play,

500
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Speaker 6: and I'm a fan, right, Like you know, I was

501
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Speaker 6: still but you said the fifty third man and looking

502
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Speaker 6: up at all these superstars. I mean, I you know,

503
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Speaker 6: ended up playing with like a Drew Brees and Reggie Bush,

504
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Speaker 6: and right, I'm still like in all that that these

505
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Speaker 6: type of athletes even exist. I mean, it's it's awesome.

506
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Speaker 4: Speaking to some athletes. I don't know how much you

507
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Speaker 4: follow your alma mater, but we got a few out here.

508
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Speaker 4: You do from USC, Woody Marks, Jalen Smith. Last year

509
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Speaker 4: when got Klein, who has turned himself into a fine safety.

510
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Speaker 4: What's what can you give us as a scouting report

511
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Speaker 4: for what you remember watching him at USC and then

512
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Speaker 4: moving on to the NFL.

513
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Speaker 6: All all great players, I mean, I just start with

514
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Speaker 6: with Woody. I thought Woody was phenomenal in college. I was.

515
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Speaker 6: I was actually surprised that he wasn't drafted you know, higher,

516
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Speaker 6: like I really thought he really did think that he

517
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Speaker 6: was an ex excellent back and and the other two guys.

518
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Speaker 6: I mean, these are guys who put on a show

519
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Speaker 6: playing at the highest level. I mean, USC we haven't

520
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Speaker 6: been good in a while, but but we that that

521
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Speaker 6: school is always going to play at a high level.

522
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Speaker 6: They're always going to put out great athletes. You're always

523
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Speaker 6: gonna get most of the time, the best kids out

524
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Speaker 6: of California because you're not going to UCLA, because who

525
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Speaker 6: would want to go to UCLA? That's that's just awful.

526
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Speaker 5: You gotta get that in, Yeah, gotta get it in.

527
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Speaker 6: So yeah, man, I you know, I love the tradition

528
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Speaker 6: of USC players to still out here in Houston, and

529
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Speaker 6: it's a great city. It's a little warm, but at

530
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Speaker 6: the same time, man, it is it's such a great

531
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Speaker 6: city to come from California. Yeah too, because it could

532
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Speaker 6: be way worse.

533
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Speaker 3: Yep.

534
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Speaker 5: They're learning it too about the heat.

535
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Speaker 4: They're learning it too talking to them there, like, man,

536
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Speaker 4: this is hotter than anything that a part of.

537
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Speaker 1: So what they did to what can you share with

538
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Speaker 1: us about your life now, Billy or since the NFL?

539
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Speaker 6: Since the NFL, I mean since I since I retired,

540
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 6: a couple of business avenues that you know, went into

541
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Speaker 6: I was going to train athletes because I missed the

542
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 6: game so much and didn't know an ounce of business, okay,

543
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Speaker 6: and just lost my button.

544
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Speaker 3: Okay.

545
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Speaker 6: Then I got into wanted to being around athletes. Then

546
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Speaker 6: I went into something that you know, kind of a

547
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Speaker 6: sports agent type of thing, and then just realized I

548
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,400
Speaker 6: didn't want to deal with college kids right and the needs.

549
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Speaker 6: I can't imagine it now with nil and everything is

550
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Speaker 6: going on, I would I would lose my mind. And

551
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Speaker 6: then now I'm doing concer here service for retired NFL players.

552
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Speaker 6: So we made sure that they get all these benefits

553
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Speaker 6: from making sure that they have all their insurance attact

554
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Speaker 6: for making sure that they're healthy. We're making sure that

555
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Speaker 6: you know, their family's okay, or any concier service that

556
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Speaker 6: we can provide. So that's kind of what I'm doing now.

557
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Speaker 5: That's all.

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Speaker 1: So what do you think of the way the league

559
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Speaker 1: is set up as far as player safety health that

560
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Speaker 1: kind of thing. Now you did a camp with two

561
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Speaker 1: a day, have many camps yep? Now we have one

562
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Speaker 1: a day. They've cut back a lot of the offseason stuff.

563
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Speaker 1: What do you think of all of that.

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Speaker 6: It is a blessing to the athletes. Although I feel

565
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Speaker 6: like I could have played seventeen years the same thing.

566
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Speaker 6: I mean those two those two days and they were

567
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Speaker 6: hitting two a days. They weren't just you know, it

568
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Speaker 6: was it was a different life back then. But I mean,

569
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Speaker 6: listen to the NFL has to predict the product. Sure,

570
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Speaker 6: so this is a player, so you have to protect

571
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Speaker 6: them and make sure they're healthy, and they put they

572
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Speaker 6: put something great on the field, which is why football

573
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Speaker 6: is a number one sport, you know in America, but

574
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Speaker 6: it should be in the world. But it's the reason why.

575
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Speaker 6: So you got to you got to keep everybody healthy

576
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Speaker 6: and have them performed on TV and it makes sense.

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Speaker 1: Well, Billy, it's so great to catch up. I know

578
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Speaker 1: you love California. I wish you were in Houston. You're

579
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Speaker 1: such a treasure to this French I need to come

580
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Speaker 1: back more. I need to come back. I mean, your

581
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Speaker 1: contribution will live on forever and that's got to feel special.

582
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Speaker 1: That will never go away. But we just listened to

583
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Speaker 1: that moment. It's incredible. Really, yeah, it is what a blessing.

584
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it was a huge deal. And I

585
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Speaker 1: didn't realize at the time. I was just trying to

586
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Speaker 1: win a football game.

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Speaker 6: But as the year's going on, I realized, like you said,

588
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Speaker 6: it's it's a Hall of Fame moment. It's something that

589
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 6: can never be taken away. And I was able to

590
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Speaker 6: share with the with a bunch of great guys on

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Speaker 6: the football field.

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Speaker 1: But one more thing about that season, Johnny's like, please stop.

593
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Speaker 1: You guys beat two playoff teams because you beat the Giants,

594
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Speaker 1: you beat Pittsburgh. I know that wasn't the greatest day

595
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Speaker 1: for the offense. It was not defense, But what about

596
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Speaker 1: that defense? Seth Payne is still on the radio here

597
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Speaker 1: on the morning show, Aaron Glenn and Gary Walker made

598
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Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 5: That defense had some juice.

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Speaker 6: The funny thing is, if if our offense was a

601
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Speaker 6: little bit better, we could have been a pretty dangerous

602
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Speaker 6: team because they did a fantastic job on the field.

603
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Speaker 6: We just we sputtered a lot. I mean we were young.

604
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Speaker 6: David was young. It was my first time playing tight end.

605
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Speaker 6: We had a young Chester Pits. We had like just

606
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Speaker 6: young players, right and I think the next year when

607
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Speaker 6: we got Andre then they kind of changed everything because

608
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Speaker 6: it was Andrey Johnson right like he's I tell people

609
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Speaker 6: all the time, I've played with some great athletes, I've

610
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Speaker 6: never played with one like Andre. Wow, is the greatest

611
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Speaker 6: athlete that I've ever I've ever played with and it's

612
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Speaker 6: not close. I played with some goods. He played on

613
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Speaker 6: the Super Bowl. Athletically, physically andres at a whole another level.

614
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Speaker 5: Wow, that's awesome. All right, one more thing, I like, like

615
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Speaker 5: one more thing, uh.

616
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Speaker 6: Drew Brees yep.

617
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Speaker 1: Just being around a quarterback like that, what it means

618
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 1: to the team, the culture, the whole thing, both sides

619
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Speaker 1: of the ball, the whole organization, an institution like Drew Brees.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely so when it comes to Drew number one, Drew

621
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Speaker 6: is always going to be the smartest person on the field. Always.

622
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Speaker 6: He's going to know everything that's gonna happen on that defense.

623
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Speaker 6: He's going to know every you know. I could hear

624
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 6: in the headphones, you know, the coaches start calling the

625
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 6: plane and be like, I got it. He would just

626
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 6: hear the formation and he'd be like I got it.

627
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Speaker 3: Okay.

628
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Speaker 6: I mean he was just he was so tuned into

629
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Speaker 6: every aspect of the game. The way he took care

630
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Speaker 6: of his body, the way he took care of his

631
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Speaker 6: friends and his linemen, and it's like he was just

632
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 6: so dialed in with every single thing that he did.

633
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 6: And even off the field, it was, you know, I

634
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 6: played pickleball with him before, played tennis with him before,

635
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 6: I played basketball. Like he's just a great athlete as well.

636
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 6: Everybody talks about it and being a shorter quarterback, but

637
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 6: he was as athletic as it came out. I want

638
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 6: to say a story he beat maybe not Andy, right,

639
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 6: he beat somebody in like youth tennis, like some crazy story, right,

640
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,360
Speaker 6: like so, And then what that means for the football

641
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 6: team is you always feel like you're in it, right.

642
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 6: There's never a game you feel like you're gonna lose.

643
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 6: I don't care if you pulled the All Madden Team out.

644
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 6: If Drew Brees is your quarterback, you feel like you

645
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 6: got a shot.

646
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Speaker 4: I remember we went there on a Monday night. That

647
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 4: Monday night came to twenty nineteen, and I got there

648
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 4: early and I'm just trying to get my bearings and

649
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 4: I look out it Shrew's going through a passing session

650
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 4: for his wide receivers team and they're just working slants

651
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 4: or just working you know, off the road tree whatever,

652
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 4: Drew would take his drop, he'd make a throw and

653
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 4: then I never seen any quarterback do that. He'd make

654
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 4: a throw and then he'd stand there and then he'd

655
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 4: take another drop, and then he'd fake a throw here,

656
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 4: and then he'd come over here and fake throw like

657
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 4: he was going through every single progression replay for that

658
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 4: particular and he'd changed on every play depending on what

659
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 4: the route was.

660
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Speaker 5: Now I was like, I was mesmerized.

661
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Speaker 1: You.

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Speaker 4: I'm just standing like, I've never seen a quarterback do that.

663
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Speaker 4: That's incredible.

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Speaker 6: He would He would do the same in practice, meaning

665
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Speaker 6: let's say he would drop back and throw a slant

666
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Speaker 6: of Coaston, but he would point at me right, so

667
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 6: he like, I see you, Yeah, I know you're there right,

668
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 6: Like could have been you right because he could just

669
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Speaker 6: see the entire field, so wherever he threw it, he

670
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 6: knew what everybody had going exactly. So there'd be times

671
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Speaker 6: where where guys like he just knew he wanted to

672
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Speaker 6: take advantage of a corner, but would tell me before

673
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Speaker 6: the play, you're gonna be wide open, but I'm going

674
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Speaker 6: I'm going after this guy real quick, and I would

675
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Speaker 6: run down the field wide open. He just knew he

676
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 6: would just like in the huddle, he would just be like, Hey,

677
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Speaker 6: I could get this to you, but I'm going outside

678
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 6: over here, right, We're gonna throw this bubble to Reggie.

679
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Speaker 6: But but keep running because the next play, I think

680
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 6: he's gonna call it'll it'll feel like he was just

681
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Speaker 6: it was. It's amazing to see and I'm sure there's

682
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Speaker 6: other guys like that, but as far as the art

683
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Speaker 6: of being a professional, yep, he had it.

684
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

685
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Speaker 5: Well and it was three hours before we even got

686
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Speaker 5: the pre game.

687
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he was doing that.

688
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Speaker 5: I was. I was amazed by that.

689
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Speaker 3: Amazed.

690
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Speaker 5: All right, Billy, great stories, great stuff. I know it

691
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Speaker 5: would be great. Thanks so much for of course, thanks

692
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Speaker 5: for having me.

693
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Speaker 6: I appreciate it. Great to be back. I appreciate it.

694
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Speaker 6: Thank you.

695
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Speaker 1: There's Billy Miller. He visited our broadcast position earlier in

696
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Speaker 1: training camp. We're gearing up for the preseason opener three

697
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Speaker 1: o'clock against Minnesota Saturday afternoon. It is going to be

698
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Speaker 1: awesome to see the team on the field for the

699
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Speaker 1: first time in twenty twenty five. Can't wait for that

700
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Speaker 1: and can't wait for our next segment when we visit

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Speaker 1: with a member of our broadcast.

702
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Speaker 5: Crew on the TV side.

703
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Speaker 1: The fact I've been doing shows with a member of

704
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Speaker 1: the TV side broadcast crew for preseason. That would be

705
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Speaker 1: Johnny Harris. He's in the booths with ND Kalou and

706
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Speaker 1: Kevin Kogler, and ND also visits us at training camp.

707
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Speaker 1: Let's hear some of that on the way out next

708
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Speaker 1: here on Texans Radio, final segment of the week before

709
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Speaker 1: we send you to Minnesota tomorrow, twelve o'clock countdown to

710
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Speaker 1: kickoff live right here, Let's get to some best of

711
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Speaker 1: camp stuff with N. D.

712
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Speaker 5: Kalou.

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Speaker 1: He's in the TV broadcast booth with John Harris. We

714
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Speaker 1: had a great visit with him at Texans training camp

715
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Speaker 1: at the Houston Methodist Training Center. From a macro level,

716
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Speaker 1: here we are. It's day eight of camp. They started

717
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Speaker 1: a week ago Wednesday. So how are the Vets feeling

718
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Speaker 1: right now? The Vets, the guys who have been in

719
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Speaker 1: the league for a long time. I'm gonna be on

720
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Speaker 1: this team, you know, barring a disaster. How is that

721
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Speaker 1: second into the second week of camp before the first

722
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Speaker 1: preseason game.

723
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Speaker 5: How's your body feeling?

724
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Speaker 3: What are you thinking?

725
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 2: Numb? You just numb. The first couple of days, there's

726
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 2: that anxiety. You're like, oh, man, no matter how hard

727
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 2: you worked out during the offseason, it's still gonna be hard,

728
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 2: but your body's gonna be prepared for the toughness of

729
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 2: two a days in training camp. And you're sore. You know,

730
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Speaker 2: after the second day, you're just really sore. You wake

731
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Speaker 2: up in the morning. And I remember this even going

732
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Speaker 2: into my twelfth year, after like the second third day

733
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Speaker 2: of training camp, waking up in the morning saying, I

734
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 2: can barely get out of bed. How am I gonna

735
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Speaker 2: make it through a two hour practice out there on

736
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Speaker 2: the field. But your body just does it. When you

737
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:59,479
Speaker 2: get to like day eight, nine, ten, it's the groundhog day.

738
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Speaker 2: You just know and you just kind of not go

739
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 2: through the motions, but you know what to expect. You

740
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 2: suck it up. And the veterans, those are the guys,

741
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 2: the guys who aren't trying to make the team.

742
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 3: They're the ones who.

743
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 2: Come out here like a Danielle Hunter say, you know what,

744
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 2: I want to work my inside step, and that's all

745
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 2: they're working on, Like it could be to the detriment

746
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 2: of a play, but he wants to work on that

747
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 2: specific movement for him. But then you have a guy

748
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 2: like his backup or even third string, where he's like, man,

749
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 2: I just have to show out, so I have to

750
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Speaker 2: do everything right. So there's a different mentality with the

751
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 2: younger guys in the established veterans.

752
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Speaker 4: Indeed, did you do any of your teams ever go

753
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Speaker 4: away for training camp?

754
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Speaker 5: And what was that experience like?

755
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Speaker 4: And what is accomplished when the team gets away from

756
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Speaker 4: its normal setting, whether it's for a week, two weeks,

757
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 4: whatever it might be, what do you kind of gain

758
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 4: from getting away?

759
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Speaker 2: So when I was in Philly, we went to Lehigh

760
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 2: University for six weeks. And what it does It eliminates

761
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 2: all distraction. You don't like it. You come from this

762
00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 2: nice house or apartment and you go live in a

763
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 2: dorm room and Lehigh freaking university as the team would say,

764
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 2: and they didn't say freaking university. When we'll go there,

765
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 2: you're sleeping in a cot in a dorm and for

766
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 2: whatever reason, that campus is so hilly, you're always walking up.

767
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 2: It's like, hold on, I walked up to get here,

768
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 2: and I feel like I'm walking up to get back

769
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Speaker 2: to my destination. But it brings the team together, and

770
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Speaker 2: it really makes you appreciate your facilities because the regular season,

771
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Speaker 2: it makes you appreciate the regular season schedule. Now, you know,

772
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Speaker 2: I don't want to be back of my day when

773
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 2: practices were really hard. But back in my day, when

774
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 2: the two of days were really hard, you would first

775
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 2: you would be miserable. Then you're going through that. What

776
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 2: do they say, misery loves company, So you're going through

777
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Speaker 2: with it with a bunch of guys. By the time

778
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 2: those six weeks were over, Like you loved that dude

779
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 2: next to you, the guys that finally made the fifty

780
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Speaker 2: three man roster, and then some guys you get so

781
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 2: close with you. Dang, they're shed a tear for them

782
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 2: when they're on their way out when they get cut.

783
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Speaker 2: But to answer a question, I'm sorry it's very long.

784
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Speaker 2: When that I'm excited being an hour. I really believe

785
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 2: it eliminates the distractions and it brings you together and

786
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 2: it makes you appreciate what you're gonna where you're gonna

787
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 2: be your digs during the regular season.

788
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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know this radio thing, man, Yeah, this radio thing.

789
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 4: We got a lot of innings that eat up in

790
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Speaker 4: d Now, that was the perfect answer because I think

791
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Speaker 4: that's it's not six weeks, but for a week.

792
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Speaker 5: You're going up to the Greenbrier.

793
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Speaker 4: Now, it's a little different than the dorms at Lehigh,

794
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 4: especially down at Casino, but we don't talk about that,

795
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 4: but there, but there is that camaraderie feeling. There is

796
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 4: that feeling of hey, we're in this together. You know,

797
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 4: wives and significant others and kids are I don't want

798
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:38,280
Speaker 4: to say they're.

799
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Speaker 5: An afterthought, but for that particular period, they're an afterthought.

800
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Speaker 6: It is all ball.

801
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Speaker 5: And you know, we kind of.

802
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Speaker 4: Noticed that last year when we went to Ohio and

803
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 4: you know, we met the team in Pittsburgh when they

804
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 4: got there and it was like they had been together

805
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 4: for eight nine days and had a really good period

806
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 4: of eight nine days, and you could tell that camaraderie

807
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,280
Speaker 4: kind of carried over into the season.

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Speaker 5: Six weeks in the dorm though.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, so, imagine seas and true todays too. Yeah,

810
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Speaker 2: true two A days And for those listening, when we

811
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Speaker 2: say true to A days in the morning, around this time,

812
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Speaker 2: you have what we call live practice. And when you

813
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 2: say live that means everyone is eligible to be tackled,

814
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,439
Speaker 2: to be hit except for the quarterback. And then you

815
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 2: after practice, you get like an hour nap, go through meetings,

816
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 2: get another thirty minutes or so, then you're back on

817
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 2: the field for the exact same type of practice. So

818
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 2: you do that for six weeks. I'll never forget. And

819
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Speaker 2: in Philly with coach Andy Reid, he was known for

820
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 2: having very tough training camps. The first ten practices were

821
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Speaker 2: padded like they were padded. So the first ten, first

822
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 2: five days straight pads, and then we would take the

823
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Speaker 2: pads off. But every blue moon, it's almost like he

824
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 2: could feel it. And coach Kubiak was the same way.

825
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,439
Speaker 2: When he knew that our bodies were like, man, we'll try,

826
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 2: but we might not make it. He'll gather us all

827
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Speaker 2: up like we're about to practice, and he'll say, all right,

828
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Speaker 2: y'all go to the movies. And when you just imagine

829
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 2: about eighty grown ass men about to cry because some

830
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 2: other man said you could go to the movies instead

831
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Speaker 2: of practice, and that that's part of what brought us together.

832
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 2: I mean, then you see about you know, sixty guys

833
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 2: in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania in the movies, and the people, the

834
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 2: locals would be going crazy. But those are still some

835
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 2: of my fondest memories.

836
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Speaker 1: How many guys passed out in the theater, Oh everyone's theater.

837
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 2: A lot of guys were just knocked out. But yeah,

838
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 2: and a lot of guys you're so excited, your adrenalines

839
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 2: going like you don't have to practice and we get

840
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 2: to sit in here and watch a movie. Those were

841
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 2: good times. It just makes you appreciate things.

842
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 1: The High University, So they changed their name from the

843
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 1: Engineers to the Mountain Hawks. I guess because engineers were

844
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: offended or something by I wasn't offended. I'm an engineer.

845
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Speaker 6: I don't know.

846
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: The engineers didn't like Mountain Now Mountain Hawks are offended,

847
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: so I'm not sure.

848
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 2: Maybe they offer more majors now, you know. Maybe back

849
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 2: then they're just an engineering school.

850
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 5: Its tradition, like the Penn Quakers. How many Quakers go

851
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 5: to Penn?

852
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:56,919
Speaker 3: Right?

853
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Speaker 6: I don't think many?

854
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 5: No, probably not? You know, actual Quakers?

855
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Speaker 6: Are you kidding?

856
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 3: Good point?

857
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 2: No way?

858
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 1: M D. Kalu joining us. So here's CJ. Stroud will

859
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: Anderson Junior going into year three. You tell me as

860
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 1: far as growing as a leader, because you come in

861
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: here as a rookie. Those are highly touted individuals. You know,

862
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: we can throw Stingy in there as well. It's from

863
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 1: the year before. Obviously he's going to year four. But

864
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 1: as far as Will and CJ go, they were drafted

865
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: back to back their rookies Rookies of the Year last year.

866
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: They do what they do when another playoff game? How

867
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 1: does that evolve? What's that process like? Is they become

868
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: the guys who really kind of take over the team gradually,

869
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: But it's got to happen.

870
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Speaker 2: I couldn't speak on it because both of those guys

871
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 2: you mentioned are such outliers.

872
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 3: You know.

873
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 2: Year three for me is when I felt like the

874
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 2: game slowed down. It was like, you know what, Oh,

875
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 2: I can do this. Like I'm comfortable Will Anderson from

876
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 2: day one when I saw him just during warm ups,

877
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, this guy is like a vet. He

878
00:37:56,480 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 2: has one speed, one motor, and he never relents. And

879
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 2: I talked about sometimes during training camp, where as much

880
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 2: as you love football, you just kind of want to

881
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 2: get through it, get through that practice. Every time I

882
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 2: watch him at training camp, it feels like it looks

883
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 2: like he has a smile on his face and he's going,

884
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 2: you know, one hundred miles an hour and appreciate it.

885
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 2: And yet so I would like to say that the

886
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 2: game's gonna slow down for him in year three. If

887
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 2: it does, I mean we're talking about some monster numbers

888
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 2: and I don't ever want to predict that, But those

889
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 2: two guys mentally, when it comes to their leadership, We've

890
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 2: all talked to CJ.

891
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 3: Stroud.

892
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 2: I remember the first time I interviewed him during a

893
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,919
Speaker 2: production meeting his rookie year. I was like, this isn't

894
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 2: a rookie like this guy. He must have hung around

895
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 2: a bunch of uncles and older men because he was

896
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 2: so wise beyond his years.

897
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 6: So you just have true, two true.

898
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 2: Veterans, and guys who are only going into their third year.

899
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 2: That's only going to help the whole organization.

900
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:55,479
Speaker 4: I know two former NFL defensive linemen really, really well,

901
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 4: and I got a feeling that when I bring this up,

902
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 4: there's gonna be this kind of bad look I'm gonna get.

903
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 5: But I gotta ask it because it's a big story

904
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 5: out here.

905
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 4: What's that your thoughts about resetting the offensive line?

906
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 5: You have to talk about the Texas offensive line and.

907
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 3: Use good terms.

908
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 4: You can't just you know, their offensive Lineman, I hate everybody.

909
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 4: I feel about kickers of punters. What about this offensive line? ND, seriously,

910
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 4: what are your thoughts about resetting it all? Trading way

911
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 4: Laramie waving or releasing Shack trading Kenyan Green kind of

912
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 4: resetting it all in year three of the.

913
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 5: Damika Ryan's era.

914
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 4: What are your kind of your thoughts about what you

915
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,399
Speaker 4: want to see from this group that'll make you feel

916
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 4: better about what this offense can do this year.

917
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 2: I want to see guys that will grind, blue collar.

918
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 2: Maybe not the most talented, where you had one guy

919
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,919
Speaker 2: in Laramie Tunsil that you could argue he's a top

920
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 2: ten tackle on the tier NFL. You might not have

921
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 2: that any one position with this offensive line. But what

922
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 2: I'm hoping for and from what I'm hearing, is that

923
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 2: they really just take pride and grind it together and

924
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,760
Speaker 2: they're gonna be that tough, gritty group like the Denver

925
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 2: Broncos of the late nineties early two thousands, where you're

926
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,800
Speaker 2: not gonna have any one of those guys be multiple

927
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 2: year all pro, but together as a unit, they were tough,

928
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 2: and that's what I feel like. It's not like Nick

929
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 2: Sara talks to me about his decision making. I feel

930
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 2: like that was the thought process when they were releasing

931
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 2: some guys and bringing in others that it's like, you

932
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 2: know what, none of these guys are going to the

933
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 2: Pro Bowl or excuse me, or going to the Hall

934
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 2: of Fame. I hope somebody goes to the Pro Bowl.

935
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 2: We're going to the Hall of Fame. But together they're

936
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 2: gonna be a unit that takes pride in protecting CJ.

937
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: Stroud, Andy Kalude joining us, Demiko Ryans here he is

938
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: year three as a head coach and d and look,

939
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: you were around Andy Reid for a long time, you're

940
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,320
Speaker 1: around Kubiak. What about the evolution as a head coach

941
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 1: and growth as he's delegating.

942
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:47,439
Speaker 5: More out here.

943
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to see how he really evolves year

944
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 1: after year. The first two years went really well for him,

945
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 1: and we wanted even better.

946
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 5: So what are you thinking about Demiko?

947
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 2: You know what, similar to what we said or what

948
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 2: I said about c J. Stroud and Will Anderson. You know,

949
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 2: just a guy that's ahead of his years, his actual years,

950
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 2: and he's been like that from his rookie year. You know,

951
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 2: I've told the story multiple times just what type of

952
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 2: leader he was as a player, even as a rookie,

953
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 2: and I'm not surprised. I'm seeing it as a coach.

954
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 2: One thing that I really like and appreciate and respect

955
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 2: about the Miko from his playing days to coaching days.

956
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 2: He never gets too high, he never gets too low,

957
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 2: and he doesn't overstress himself because he knows if there's

958
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 2: a mistake, if something goes wrong, he's gonna fix it.

959
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 3: Even now.

960
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 2: You know, when I was walking over here to talk

961
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 2: to y'all, I really when I played. You know, you

962
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 2: go through a certain mentality when you get ready for practice.

963
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 2: So he saw me. We showed each other love, and

964
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 2: I kept like, all right, I'm gonna let you go.

965
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 2: I know you want to get in your mind. He's

966
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 2: like no, no, like house the kids doing, like how

967
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 2: he's just real calm, cool, collective. He doesn't overthink things,

968
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,879
Speaker 2: and he doesn't get too high too low. I mean,

969
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 2: this is a guy that he's gonna be coaching. He's

970
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,439
Speaker 2: going to be a successful coach for years to come,

971
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 2: and I just hope that he's one of the few

972
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 2: that has his best years multiple years, with one organization

973
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 2: being the Houston.

974
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 5: Texas Amen you mentioned your kids. How are they doing?

975
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 5: Ball seasons coming up?

976
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 3: Yeah?

977
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 4: Jonah, how excited is the Kohlou family for what the

978
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 4: Kolu family can do this year?

979
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 3: We're excited for football.

980
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 2: So got one over at Baylor, made it through his

981
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 2: spring and competing, competing for a lot of playing time.

982
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 2: So God will and just stay healthy and keep grinding.

983
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 2: And the one behind me just turned seventeen today, birthday.

984
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 2: Happy birthday to Jonah Kalou. He's he's going into Fort

985
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 2: benk Christian his senior year and he was just named

986
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 2: to the preseason all Private school teams. So you know,

987
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 2: instead of calming down, our workouts will get a little

988
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 2: more to any chance. And I can I can see

989
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 2: him cursing me out when I work when I work

990
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 2: him out, But I just let him know we have

991
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 2: to live up to the so called hype.

992
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 6: Yeah.

993
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: Wow, so you're doing this, You're you're the personal trainer?

994
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I was all years before I was paying

995
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 2: somebody to do it. I'm like, why the hell am

996
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 2: I paying somebody to teach you what pushup?

997
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 3: Set up?

998
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 4: Pops is gonna make sure that that youngins don't believe

999
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:13,240
Speaker 4: the hype exactly. Yeah, Pops has been there, He's been around.

1000
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 4: It's you know, we see Derek Stingley, Junior's father. That

1001
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 4: man's around for everything. He and his uh, he and

1002
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 4: his wife, Derek's parents, they're around for everything, and he

1003
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 4: teaches Derek. And you're right, it's better and go through

1004
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 4: a trainer, especially you've been through the wars that you've

1005
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 4: been through on a football field for sure.

1006
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 2: And you know, it's a little selfish on my part.

1007
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 2: It's my last year. He's my last son, so it's

1008
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 2: probably more for me than it.

1009
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 3: Is for him.

1010
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 5: A couple of other things.

1011
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: As the team makes its way out of the practice

1012
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,800
Speaker 1: bubble here and out of the field in full pads

1013
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 1: for day eight of Texans training camp, they'll do some

1014
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: warm up ball warm up. It's a different kind of

1015
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 1: warm up. It's a lot of warm up here. They

1016
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 1: got to warm up.

1017
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 4: They do a little agility drills and they have the

1018
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 4: ball incorporated, which I actually learned an Indie's hometown. I

1019
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 4: was in San Antonio do their carnal playoff game between

1020
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 4: Katie and Symbol of Steel and the Simbil of Steel

1021
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 4: team came on a field. Every single kid at that point.

1022
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 4: It was like one hundred and forty of them, and

1023
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 4: they just threw the ball around the field to each

1024
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 4: other for like fifteen minutes, so everybody got a chance

1025
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 4: to touch the ball.

1026
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 5: And I was like, that's pretty interesting. I would do that.

1027
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 4: And then I saw us doing this the last couple

1028
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 4: of years, where everybody touches the ball no matter what,

1029
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 4: because at some point somebody might have to recover a

1030
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 4: fumble or catch a ball out of the air to keep.

1031
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 5: It from the other side or the defense making a

1032
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 5: play going the other way.

1033
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 3: So, yeah, you used to.

1034
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 1: Catching football, okay, And the question for you, you used

1035
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: to host a talk show every day a couple hours.

1036
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: How much do you miss doing that?

1037
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 3: Tell me.

1038
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 5: I'm just curious because that's a way of life. And

1039
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 5: even though it was.

1040
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: Two hours, which is you know, it's not the four

1041
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: hour ship, but you have to prepare the same way

1042
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,399
Speaker 1: for two hours as you were preparing for four hours.

1043
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, it's the same.

1044
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: Kind of prep you're on the air even an hour,

1045
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 1: you got to prepare the same way. And it's getting there,

1046
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: it's preparing it doing the show, it's leaving and running

1047
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: a business at the same time.

1048
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 5: But how much do you miss that. What is your

1049
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 5: life like since then?

1050
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 2: That's the part I don't miss, you know, juggling that

1051
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 2: and running the mortgage fund that we created. But I

1052
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 2: missed the interaction with the other football fans that call

1053
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:15,959
Speaker 2: into the show.

1054
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 3: You know.

1055
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 2: I miss being able to step away from reality, not

1056
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 2: talking about politics and not talking about high crime, just

1057
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 2: talking about football, you know, having disagreements about things that

1058
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 2: are so trivial but at the same time fun. Uh

1059
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 2: So I missed the interaction. But I don't miss watching

1060
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 2: a game and having to study every game, you know,

1061
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 2: the Texas I don't mind. I enjoy it, but you know,

1062
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,720
Speaker 2: watching like the Hall of Fame game yesterday, I actually

1063
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,919
Speaker 2: forgot about it. But if I was still on air,

1064
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 2: I would have watched it. I would have talked about

1065
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 2: the top rookies that played in that game. It would

1066
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 2: have felt more like a job. I don't miss that,

1067
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 2: but I do miss the interaction with the Houston fans.

1068
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 1: How's business.

1069
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 2: It's good, it's good. I don't want to sit here boast,

1070
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 2: but no business is bad. When you hear me back

1071
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 2: on radio every day.

1072
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 5: Every day, you know about that? Radio wasn't so bad?

1073
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 6: All right?

1074
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 3: All right?

1075
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 1: But give me this, give me this nonsports Houston economy.

1076
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 1: How are we doing overall Houston economy in general?

1077
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 3: What do you think?

1078
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 2: I will say, I can't speak on the economy overall,

1079
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 2: but as far as the housing market, I'm not seeing

1080
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 2: the dip we were afraid of with the tariffs and

1081
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 2: the costs of material were buildings. We really thought it

1082
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 2: was gonna affect the investors side on the real estate side,

1083
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 2: and the numbers have stayed pretty you know, they say

1084
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 2: the same, which is a good which is a great thing.

1085
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 1: There's some of our visit with nd Kalu. That's some

1086
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 1: of our best of training camp content. And we are

1087
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 1: ready to rock tomorrow from Minneapolis three o'clock kick twelve

1088
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 1: noon countdown to kickoff. Let's go have some fun in

1089
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,839
Speaker 1: the preseason. Thanks so much for listening, Have a great night.

1090
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 1: Area forty five is next.

1091
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 5: Go Texans.