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Speaker 1: From Mediators World News headquarters in Bozeman, Montana. This is

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Speaker 1: Cal's we can review with Ryan cal Calahan. Now Here's cal.

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Speaker 1: The Alaska Department of Transportation recently purchased a robotic dog

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Speaker 1: they hope to use to scare wildlife away from airport runways.

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Speaker 1: They've named the dog Aurora, and they plan to dress

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Speaker 1: it up like a coyote or a fox so it

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Speaker 1: can chase waterfowl at the Fairbanks International Airport. They'll also

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Speaker 1: be looking to see how moose and bears respond to

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Speaker 1: the headless metal robot that looks to be about the

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Speaker 1: size of a Golden retriever. Wildlife can be a real

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Speaker 1: danger to airplanes, and many airports have dedicated teams whose

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Speaker 1: job it is to make sure runways are clear. But

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Speaker 1: I've said before that I'd rather see a dog used

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Speaker 1: for deer recovery than a drone, and this feels like

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Speaker 1: more of the same. Did we lose the ability to

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Speaker 1: train real dogs to chase birds? In my experienced dogs

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Speaker 1: don't need much encouragement to take up that particular profession anyway.

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Speaker 1: Alaskans are responding to this as you'd expect, a fiercely

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Speaker 1: independent group of people to respond to a robot that

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Speaker 1: looks something out of Skynet. Many of the commenters on

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Speaker 1: the Alaska Department of Transportation instagram post about Aurora asked

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Speaker 1: how much taxpayer money was spent on the dog. One

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Speaker 1: asked the Department of Transportation to plow roads instead of

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Speaker 1: purchasing robots. Another wondered whether the state would be opening

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Speaker 1: a robot wolf hunting season, and another worried that robots

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Speaker 1: would be the death of humanity. You know who would

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Speaker 1: never be the death of humanity. Actual dogs. Just a fun,

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Speaker 1: playful pack of golden retrievers out there. You know they'd

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Speaker 1: probably do the job. Got to feed them all those thanks,

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Speaker 1: But it's like South Park episode. You know, they took

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Speaker 1: our jobs. This We've got court cases, we've got danger,

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Speaker 1: we've got crime. But first coming to tell you about

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Speaker 1: my week. And my week was awesome. As you know,

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Speaker 1: we had the Brush for Bucks event with the boys

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Speaker 1: from Hushing. We got twenty two thousand sagebrush seedlings in

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Speaker 1: the ground, planted by one hundred volunteers who paid for

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Speaker 1: the next round of seedlings. You are all amazing people.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, thank you big huge thanks to IDFG,

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Speaker 1: BLM and Utah DWR for kicking butt on this project

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Speaker 1: as well. Cannot wait to get this going next year.

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Speaker 1: Speaking with Mule Deer Foundation and Idaho Fish and Game,

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Speaker 1: we'd like to see three projects in three states for

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, plant habitat and hopefully some big buck

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Speaker 1: karma in twenty five. Now we have so much going on,

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Speaker 1: it's brutal. My buddy Mike Rabe just shot a giant

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Speaker 1: white sea bass in southern California. There's turkeys gobbling, there's

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Speaker 1: bears out and about the media. Your live tour is

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Speaker 1: about to start. If you want to win tickets, you

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Speaker 1: should hit up a BHA pint night, participate in trivia.

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Speaker 1: You'll get on stage with us where you can match

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Speaker 1: your wits. BHA Rendezvous is coming up. On top of this,

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Speaker 1: we should all be hiking, shooting, and generally getting ready

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Speaker 1: for the big show. It's an exciting, anxiety producing time

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Speaker 1: of year for me. On top of all that, I

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Speaker 1: got a call from Riverstone Kennels out there in Wisconsin

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Speaker 1: trying to get me a puppy, and I had to

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Speaker 1: say no. I rather defer to next year's litter because

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Speaker 1: Snort just needs another season. Both for success and because

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Speaker 1: I want her to be a good citizen, back to

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Speaker 1: the high standards I actually have rather than display by

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Speaker 1: the time this puppy shows up. And another thing, this

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Speaker 1: is just something I've been tinkering with because that's what

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Speaker 1: I like to do. Please write in and tell me

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Speaker 1: if I'm going wrong. I'm adding a fuel transfer tank

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Speaker 1: camper shell. Haven't gotten a camper shell yet, but more

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Speaker 1: than likely going the go fast camper route because they

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Speaker 1: look pretty darn slick and they're made right here in Belgrade.

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Speaker 1: So I'm just soliciting feedback at this point. I'd like

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Speaker 1: to hear from you. I'm also curious if I should

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Speaker 1: have improved since Chevy put those on in two thousand

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Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, yeah, I think We're on a good

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Speaker 1: onto the news gang. So first stop, the legal desk.

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Speaker 1: The corner crossing case in Wyoming isn't the only courtroom

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Speaker 1: drama you should be keeping an eye on. In Michigan,

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Speaker 1: the Michigan United Conservation Clubs is suing the state's Natural

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Speaker 1: Resources Commission for its recent decision to shave three months

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Speaker 1: off the coyote hunting season. We've covered this story before,

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Speaker 1: recent episode, so I'll give you the spark notes. Remember,

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Speaker 1: those Michigan residents had been able to hunt coyotes year round,

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Speaker 1: but the Commission decided to pause the hunt every year

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Speaker 1: doesn't appear that shortening the season will have any significant

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Speaker 1: population level impact. Instead, the Commission cited the social perception

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Speaker 1: They worried that public backlash to orphaned coyotes would prompt

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Speaker 1: calls for all coyote hunting to be abolished. The MUCC

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Speaker 1: filed a claim of appeal in Ingham County Circuit Court,

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Speaker 1: arguing that this isn't a good enough reason to make

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Speaker 1: wildlife management decisions. They argue that the Commission is charged

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Speaker 1: with making decisions based on quote principles of sound scientific management,

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Speaker 1: as it says in a nineteen ninety six law giving

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Speaker 1: the Commission their authority. If you want a deeper dive

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Speaker 1: into this issue, check out episode two sixty three of

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Speaker 1: the Week in Review. Here, residents of New York, California,

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Speaker 1: and Georgia are suing the National Park Service for not

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Speaker 1: accepting cash at a growing number of locations. According to

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Speaker 1: the media outlet sf Gate, the lawsuit claims this policy

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Speaker 1: violates a federal law that makes US currency legal tender

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Speaker 1: for all public charges. Fun fact, I once saw a

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Speaker 1: lawyer go head to head with a flight attendant arguing

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Speaker 1: this very thing. When you, guys, remember, if you fly

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Speaker 1: at all, there was a time in the not too

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Speaker 1: distant past where you could use cash to buy beverages

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Speaker 1: on a plane. Wistful thinking Petbridge Farm remembers. For their part,

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Speaker 1: the National Park Service says they've closed cash payments at

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Speaker 1: twenty nine locations so far because they say it costs

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Speaker 1: more to handle the cash than they bring in in

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Speaker 1: entry fees. At Death Valley National Park, for example, they

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Speaker 1: say it cost them forty thousand dollars per year to

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Speaker 1: to transport the bills, but they only receive twenty two

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Speaker 1: business minded folks out there, isn't great. If you're wondering

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Speaker 1: why anyone is making such a big deal out of

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Speaker 1: having to use cash, you should know about a larger

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Speaker 1: controversy running under the surface of this story. As we

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Speaker 1: covered in episode two oh seven, the online system people

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Speaker 1: use to reserve campsites and by day passes is run

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Speaker 1: by a private tech firm called Booze Allen Hamilton. That's

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Speaker 1: booz Allen Hamilton, and that company has made millions taking

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Speaker 1: a cut of all those park fees, but it's unclear

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Speaker 1: Whatever the case may be, the push to go cash

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Speaker 1: list has gone hand in hand with the push to

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Speaker 1: move people to Recreation dot gov. Maybe you can care

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Speaker 1: about this, maybe you don't. But if you're a public

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Speaker 1: You may remember all the way back in twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: eliminating the Sunday hunting ban. The main state Supreme Court

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Speaker 1: has issued a ruling in that case, and hunters are

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Speaker 1: divided about whether it's a good thing. Maine is one

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Speaker 1: allow hunting on Sundays. In twenty twenty one, residents approved

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Speaker 1: an amendment to the state constitution declaring that everyone has

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Speaker 1: Joel Parker sued the state based on this new constitutional amendment.

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Speaker 1: They said the Sunday hunting ban violates the state constitution

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Speaker 1: because it doesn't give them enough time to feed their

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Speaker 1: It was a long shot argument, but advocates of lifting

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Speaker 1: The state legislature has so far denied them, but the

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court wasn't convinced. They argued that while the constitutional

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Speaker 1: Amendment does provide a right to hunt wild animals, it

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Speaker 1: specifically excludes the right to violate hunting laws. Because hunting

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Speaker 1: on Sundays would violate the law, the Right to Food

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Speaker 1: the lord's day. Some hunters are obviously disappointed by this ruling,

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Speaker 1: but not all of them are. Maine is a unique

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Speaker 1: some of those landowners will retaliate by posting their property

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Speaker 1: landowners who do not currently post their land would consider

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Speaker 1: in January in Calhoun County. Calhoun County is located in

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Speaker 1: what Michiganders call West Michigan, which is actually the southwestern

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Speaker 1: they live. Anyway, the coyote hunt was legal, and the

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Speaker 1: he thought was a very large coyote. But when they

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Speaker 1: the biggest coyote you will run into. Genetic tests confirmed

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Speaker 1: biologists captured a wolf on a trail camera during an

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Speaker 1: eagle survey. Given this history, and makes sense that one

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