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And on this episode 7 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: of the Pod, we will be giving you the audio 8 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: from yesterday's game featuring Ajpuck in Skip Schumacher post Gang 9 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: First stop, Ajpuck. 10 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 2: AJ, seemed like some ups and downs for you today 11 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 2: at just how overall would you assess your adding? Yeah, 12 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:52,639 Speaker 2: you know, I feel like, you know that first name 13 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 2: is kind of tough, like they weren't putting in barrels 14 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 2: on the ball. It just kind of like the weekfl 15 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 2: and that's didn't have anything, you know, fuld my way 16 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 2: and I kinda get out of, uh you know that 17 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 2: jam there, and uh we had an overall off like 18 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,119 Speaker 2: like go through some good pitches and uh they over 19 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: not too bad. What are the main takeaways from the 20 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 2: solid innings at the second and the fourth? Yeah, you know, 21 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 2: just knowing that you know when I'm in the zone 22 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 2: that uh you know that I got good stuff, and 23 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 2: they can play really well. And uh, you know that's 24 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 2: just the key. You know, I'll just keep pound the zone, 25 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 2: get strike one, and just keep attacking. 26 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 3: That's the way these first seven games have gone, especially 27 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 3: collectively as a rotation, you're somewhat surprised of, I guess 28 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 3: your guys inability to go a little bit deeper, being 29 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 3: more effective. 30 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you know what I mean, I just kind 31 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 2: of just part of it right now. You know, we 32 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 2: got a lot of a lot of new guys and 33 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 2: new spots and uh yeah, you know, I mean it's 34 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 2: gonna it's gonna come along. You know, the guys aren't 35 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 2: you know, too too panic mode yet, you know, I 36 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 2: mean you'd like to see you know, the stars going 37 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 2: on five six innings for sure, and uh, you know 38 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 2: it's gonna come now. 39 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: Let's hear Skip Shook starts post game against the Angels. 40 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 4: What did the sandabal, dude, and just so much soft contact. 41 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 3: Very similar to what Anderson did my opinion, Just a 42 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 3: lot of change ups and curveball. He had every pitch working, 43 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 3: really good job by him. Fastball was good at the top. 44 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 3: But you know, we just had a tough time, you know, 45 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 3: Barreling up any off speed pitch, whether it was the 46 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 3: change up slider or the or the curveball. 47 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:32,519 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's just kind of really the story. 48 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:34,959 Speaker 3: We just couldn't other than you know, Abby, you know, 49 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 3: kind of hitting ball the other way and Mariah's taking some. 50 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 4: Good at bats. 51 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 3: I know Burger had a good at bat and so 52 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 3: did Bell, but overall it was a lot of pull 53 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 3: side we contact again, and we got to figure out 54 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 3: a way to you know, eliminate some changeups from these 55 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 3: lefties because that's what we're getting exposed on this season. 56 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,079 Speaker 5: Just what's your main takeaway from this one? 57 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 2: Stand? 58 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 3: Well, I mean there's there's a lot of games that 59 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 3: we gave away that you know, I thought we played 60 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 3: really well, just kind of gave them away late today 61 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 3: we got our butt kicked. 62 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 4: Honestly, you know. 63 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 3: It's we shot ourselves in the foot, I said, you know, 64 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 3: like I said earlier, with some bad with some defensive miscues, 65 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 3: and but yeah, some some tough, some tough losses. For 66 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 3: sure that there were some winnable games that thought we 67 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 3: had and then got got our butt kicked in other games. 68 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 4: So I would say it was definitely a mixed bag. 69 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 3: I would be upset more upset if it was again 70 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 3: like lack of effort, lack of preparation, all that stuff. 71 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 3: I know I said that yesterday, but it's it's really 72 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 3: not that way, and they're they're going about it the 73 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 3: right way. 74 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 4: It's tough. 75 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 3: I mean that they're not happy in there. We're not happy. 76 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 3: You know this in the uh as the staff. You know, 77 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 3: we're here to try to help them get better and 78 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 3: help them win games, and you know we're not We're 79 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 3: not doing that right now obviously with with no wins. 80 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 3: So we got to, uh, we got to circle up 81 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 3: as a staff and figure out how to get them 82 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 3: on the right track. 83 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: Obviously, you guys are starting pitching supposts as. 84 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 3: A ton of especially for you guys, just the way 85 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 3: things are open. 86 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: Is it kind of surprised you how it hasn't been 87 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: as successful or as strong, even without obviously the injuries 88 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: injured guys. 89 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean, I really think Puck is going 90 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 4: to be okay. 91 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 3: I really think Zeus is an ace of you know, 92 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 3: of our staff and an ace in the league. I 93 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 3: think Ryan is going to be really good this year 94 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 3: as well. I mean, there's some really good guys. Max 95 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 3: Myers up and coming. So there's some there's some really 96 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 3: good pitchers on our staffs. I really think that the 97 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 3: deeper they can get in the game, the better for us. 98 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 3: You know, four innings, two innings, you know, less than 99 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 3: five innings is tough on the bullpen and to cover, 100 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 3: and then you see the effects later on in the 101 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 3: home stand in each series if you know, starters only 102 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 3: going you know, for four innings or so. 103 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 4: That's just the reality. 104 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 3: So we gotta definitely get deeper in games, which I 105 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 3: know we will. The pitch counts will go up. We'll 106 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 3: start attacking the strike zone a lot better than what 107 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 3: we have confident in that the season. I know it 108 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 3: feels long already in that clubhouse because it's seven. 109 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 4: Games and no wins, but it is really early. 110 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 3: However, these games do count, I mean they are you know, 111 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 3: the playoff teams get in by one or two games 112 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 3: every year, and so you know, we got to figure 113 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 3: it out if we want to get to where we 114 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 3: want to get to. 115 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 4: Do you see them pressing it all? 116 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 2: And when you said no, it's only seven games so far, 117 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 2: but no wins, as you said, I. 118 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 3: Mean, yeah, maybe, I mean, maybe there's a few guys 119 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 3: in there that are trying to you know, be the 120 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 3: guy to help break the streak and you know, trying 121 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 3: to do maybe a little bit more than they're capable of. 122 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 3: But I don't see there being panic. I know there's 123 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 3: still positive positivity in there, like you know, talking and 124 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 3: trying to get the guys going. But you know, again, 125 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 3: seven losses is seven losses, So you're not happy about it. 126 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 3: No one's you know happy right now in there. But 127 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 3: you know they came in today super positive and you know, 128 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 3: laughing and joking around and like, you know, as you 129 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 3: should because it's a new day. That's why it's a 130 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 3: little disappointing to you know, come out, you know at 131 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 3: the ten or two loss today because I really felt 132 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 3: good about coming in today and puck. 133 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 5: On the mount with the bullpen holing yesterday. Forwardings you 134 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 5: get two from uh Smith and three from manual. How 135 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 5: much has that helped, like, even with the losses and everything, 136 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 5: just be able to kind of reset the bullpen as 137 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 5: you have that off day coming up with that in 138 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 5: addition to that, how much is it have have those 139 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 5: innings eaters helped keep everything in line just to keep. 140 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 4: Well, it's reset, but we're getting our butt kicked. 141 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 3: That's why I mean we're using some of the length 142 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 3: because we're getting our butt kicked. So you know, you're 143 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 3: not you're you know, you'd be liking to use Scott 144 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 3: and Nardi and Bender and those guys because you're winning games. 145 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 3: When you're covering multiple five innings a game, it's it's 146 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 3: challenging on the bullpen. I mean you're gonna lose Hoeing 147 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 3: for a few days. You'll lose you know, a couple 148 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 3: of these guys for a couple of days because they 149 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 3: if they've thrown so many innings. Yeah, they've done a 150 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 3: nice job. Hoeing especially did a nice job of keeping 151 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 3: us in the game. You never want to just pitch 152 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 3: guys just to complete the game. And that's that's not 153 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 3: where we're at. That's not what we're trying to do. Yeah, 154 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 3: they're resetting, but you know we're we're trying to win 155 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 3: a game. And I'm not worried about reset. The last 156 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 3: thing in my mind today was trying to reset the bullpen. 157 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 3: I was trying to win a game, So you know 158 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 3: that's us. Yeah, Hoeing and those guys have done a 159 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 3: nice job, but you know, trying to win my rise. 160 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 4: Of Jazz look like to escape the injury. What did 161 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 4: you see maybe from Jazz from his. 162 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 2: Cat starre at center field in the fifth when he 163 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 2: went down, and maybe also however, Rise is holding off 164 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 2: after he could. 165 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I didn't get the video. 166 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 3: The video cut on the in the dugout, so I 167 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 3: didn't see it, honestly. I mean from the live view, 168 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 3: look like he went up and then I saw the 169 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 3: ball carra minsit center, so I didn't see it. He 170 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 3: said he was okay when I talked to him, so 171 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 3: I have to, you know, watching over during replay. 172 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 4: Uh. And then Riot got hit you're talking about the 173 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 4: hip by pitch. 174 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, a couple of guys in the league 175 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 3: have broke the wrists already. Luckily he he didn't, just 176 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 3: got you know, graised on the on the hand. 177 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 4: I shouldn't say Grays got hit on the hand. But 178 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 4: no issues. M m hm h m hm