1 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spoffer, joined as always 3 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:24,639 Speaker 1: by my trusted colleague Wes Honkowitz. We're coming to you 4 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: here from our studios at Lambeufield to preview Sunday's game 5 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: at Lambeoufield West. It'll be the Green Bay Packers against 6 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. Before we dive into the Cardinals, a 7 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: little bit of news on the Packers side of things. 8 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: With practice for the week resuming on Wednesday. Romeo Dobbs 9 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,480 Speaker 1: was at practice, back from his one game suspension from 10 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: last week, and Christian Watson also back at practice after 11 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: missing all of last week and the game with an 12 00:00:55,240 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: ankle injury. So the Packers possibly no guarantees as to 13 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: how this is all going to shake out, especially with 14 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: regard to Watson's ankle injury, but possibly getting the receiving 15 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: corps back to full strength here with the club returning 16 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: home to play at Lambeau. 17 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, and obviously, as Matt Lafleur said, I mean, there's 18 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 2: both of those guys, Dobbs and Watson. I mean there's 19 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 2: such critical pieces to this Packers' offense. It's been that 20 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 2: way for two and a half years, so to have 21 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 2: both of them back, you know, and obviously the Dobbs 22 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 2: situation very serious. They went through the whole suspension over 23 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 2: the weekend. Everyone's looking forward to moving past that. You know, 24 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 2: we'll have to see at some point what Rome has 25 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 2: to say about the whole situation, right, but really quickly, 26 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 2: I just want to say, I mean, you were the 27 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 2: first one to point it out after watching practice on Wednesday. 28 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 2: The fact that we're even having this conversation about Christian 29 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 2: Watson is still somewhat jarring to me that he for 30 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 2: as nasty as that looked, as bad as that looked 31 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 2: two weeks ago, for him to potentially be back in 32 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: the cards for this game on Sunday, No pun intended. 33 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 2: That's it's incredible. And as he was saying, I mean, 34 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 2: there's been so many setbacks, and he said it wasn't 35 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 2: even that when he went down, he wasn't even thinking 36 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 2: so much like oh man, season ending injury. He's like, hey, 37 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 2: I just don't want to miss one more game. Yeah, 38 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 2: you know, just he puts so much work in the 39 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 2: hamstrings knock on wood have been solid so far. No 40 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 2: real hiccups for the most part, and then you have 41 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 2: this really scary looking situation down the seam. So fortunately 42 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 2: he got through it. Sounds like it wasn't even like 43 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 2: the high ankle sprain variety. No break obviously, and if 44 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 2: you can get number nine back on the field, this Packers' 45 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 2: offense can really go up. 46 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, the fact that he's back on the practice field 47 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: just ten days after that injury against the Vikings, I 48 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: don't think any of us would have predicted that based 49 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: on the video that we saw and how that injury 50 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 1: went down. So hopefully his recovery continues at the rapid 51 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: and smooth pace that it has been so far. But 52 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: with regard to the Cardinals, that is the opponent coming 53 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 1: to lambeau Field Sunday. It's a noon Central Time kickoff. 54 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: Arizona is two to three on the young season. A huge, 55 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: huge victory for the Cardinals last week though, on the 56 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: road at San Francisco Division rival in the NFC West, 57 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: they pull out a twenty four to twenty three triumph. Now, 58 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: this is coming off of back to back home losses 59 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 1: for the Cardinals against the Lions and the Washington Commanders, 60 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 1: and the second of those the Washington game was really 61 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: a blowout. They lost, I believe, by twenty eight points. 62 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: They go into San Francisco. They it's a back and 63 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: forth game early on, but then the forty nine Ers 64 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: block a field goal, return it for a touchdown late 65 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: in the first half, and the forty nine Ers are 66 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: up twenty three to ten. At halftime. They're up two scores, 67 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: but the Cardinals defense comes out and pitches a second 68 00:03:55,720 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: half shutout. The offense gets two touchdowns out. I guess 69 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: I should say a touchdown. I believe it was a 70 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: couple of field goals. They pull out a twenty four 71 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: to twenty three win over a division rival. That's the 72 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: type of victory, quite frankly, West that can be a 73 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: season turner, a season changer for a team that was 74 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: one and three and going on the road to San Francisco. 75 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: They come out of that with a win. They're two 76 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: and three, and this is a team that, quite frankly, 77 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: is going to be riding pretty high coming into Lambo. 78 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 2: They got walloped by Washington Commanders team that has sort 79 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 2: of been walloping everybody to this point, especially on the 80 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 2: offensive side of things. But if you look at the 81 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 2: rest of their schedule, Michael, they lost by six at Buffalo. 82 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 2: They lost a narrow game to the Detroit Lions. I mean, 83 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 2: this has been a crew that has been in every 84 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 2: type of matchup so far outside of just the revenge 85 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 2: game or whatever you want to call it with Washington 86 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 2: and everything that happened there. But the fact is, and 87 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 2: Matt Lafuer touchdown, I mean, you have a guy in 88 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 2: Kyler Murray I think is playing back to his potential again. 89 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 2: There was a couple of years there. Injuries played obviously 90 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 2: a huge part into that, but it just it wasn't 91 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 2: the offensive rookie of the year type guy he was 92 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 2: his first two seasons and how he got things started 93 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 2: when Tom Clements was his position coach. Now the train 94 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 2: seemed to be back on the tracks, and he has 95 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 2: some really unique weapons to work with. I mean, you 96 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 2: look at Trey McBride, how he emerged last year, a 97 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 2: guy that actually helped save my fantasy team last season 98 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 2: at the tight end position. I know that's something you 99 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 2: care a lot about. But then even you know there's 100 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 2: so much focus on you know, Marvin Harrison Junior, and 101 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 2: there is there rightly should be. I mean, as Matt 102 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 2: Lafore mentioned this is a budding star in this league. 103 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 2: Guy that's gonna be a factor for years to come. 104 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 2: But you know, Michael Wilson is off to a good 105 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 2: start too, who is a third round pick for them 106 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 2: last year. They've built this roster back up. They've kind 107 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 2: of gone through a rebuilding phase while still having a 108 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 2: franchise quarterback. And I think you're seeing Kyler Murray use 109 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 2: all those weapons in addition to the fact that at 110 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:50,919 Speaker 2: any given time he can take off and be a 111 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 2: real threat with his legs too. Yeah. 112 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 1: I mean, we've talked about how this Packers offense has 113 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 1: certainly been among the league leaders in explosive plays and whatnot. 114 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:02,799 Speaker 1: This Cardinals offense with Kyler Murray with Marvin Harrison Junior, 115 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: is explosive in its own right. I mean, Harrison is 116 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: averaging sixteen point four yards per catch, which is a 117 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: pretty big number. He also has four touchdown receptions. Kyler 118 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: Murray has thrown seven touchdown passes. Four of them have 119 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 1: gone to the rookie Harrison Murray himself. Whether it's via 120 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: scrambling or the designed running plays, the zone read those 121 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: kinds of things. He's averaging ten point seven yards per rush. 122 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: Which is why their team average rushing the ball is 123 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: five and a half per carry. He is a big 124 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: factor in that. Taking nothing away from James Connor, who 125 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: I believe is a very underrated running back in this league. 126 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: He's a classic power back and he can really give 127 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: you problems. But Murray is the guy you're so focused 128 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: on here because all you have to do is look 129 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: at the highlights from last week against the Niners. He 130 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 1: runs a simple zone read play, pulls the ball, keeps himself, 131 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 1: takes it to the right, and by the time he 132 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: got to the forty yard line, he was sticking his 133 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 1: arm up in the air. No one he was going 134 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: to score fifty yard touchdown and he knew it at 135 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: the forty yard line nobody was going to catch him. Right. 136 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 2: So this. 137 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: Is a dangerous individual quarterbacking, I believe, a dangerous offense. 138 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 2: If I may also interject with James Connor, why I 139 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 2: love him so much as he's just to me, he's 140 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 2: the throwback, right, He's almost kind of reminds me like 141 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 2: of the Edgar Bennett, you know, Dorsey Levins type back. Yeah, 142 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 2: this year, I think as long as carry's like twenty 143 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 2: two yards, but he's so dang consistent and you know, 144 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 2: other than you know, some setbacks that he was able 145 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 2: to work past early in his career and a health perspective. 146 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 2: I mean, this guy has been just steady as they go, consistent, 147 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 2: and when you look at at Kyler Murray and where 148 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 2: he's been successful in the past, it's when he's had 149 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 2: a running back that he can play off of and 150 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 2: somebody that can kind of compliment his strengths too as 151 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 2: a runner. And it kind of goes back to what 152 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 2: we saw in week one where when you had Jalen 153 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 2: Hurts in the contrast there with a Saquon Barkley type. So, yeah, 154 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 2: packers have to be aware of all of it. But 155 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 2: one of the questions I took from Insider Inbox this 156 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 2: week because people were asking, like, Okay, well, does this 157 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 2: mean we're gonna have to get back to the really 158 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 2: conservative pass rush approach and not letting him escape. That 159 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 2: is true, you can't let him run over you, but 160 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 2: Kyler Murray, despite not being the world's tallest quarterback, can 161 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 2: also really thread you apart from the pocket. Yeah, he's 162 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 2: a very versatile and dynamic player, and I think that's 163 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 2: why this is a huge supreme test for them, and 164 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 2: also why when the draft came around last year, it 165 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 2: was one of the most obvious things that if Marvin 166 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 2: Harrison Junior was there for the Cardinals, that they were 167 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 2: going to take him because that was sort of the 168 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 2: big play target this offense was really looking for. Yeah. 169 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: Well again, on the defensive side for this team, you're 170 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: not talking about a whole lot of household names though. 171 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:48,839 Speaker 1: Buddha Baker, the safety, is the guy that everybody talks about. 172 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 2: Blackle's already. By the way, how many fifty two? Wow, 173 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:55,479 Speaker 2: that's ten tackles a game, brought. 174 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:59,439 Speaker 1: Ten tackles a game for five games. This defense. It's 175 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 1: really interesting West because, as we've mentioned a couple times, 176 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: they got blown out at home by Washington. The Commanders 177 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 1: put up forty two points in that game. But the 178 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: Cardinals come back the following week and not only was 179 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: it a second half shutout against the San Francisco forty 180 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: nine ers on the road, but the forty nine ers 181 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 1: scored one of their scored seven of their points off 182 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: a blocked field goal. Arizona's defense gave up only sixteen 183 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: points to the San Francisco forty nine ers. That is 184 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: something to pay attention to again, that is that that's 185 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: the type of thing that can that can change a 186 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: team season, that can that can get things going in 187 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: the right direction. So even though you know, I believe 188 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: their leading SAT guy has three sacks, you know nothing 189 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: Dennis Gardeck is that that's the name Gotch a. 190 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 2: Former college free agent I think like six years ago. 191 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: So yeah, obviously not again, like I say, not a 192 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,719 Speaker 1: lot of household names on this defense, but this is 193 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 1: a unit that's starting to get things together and they 194 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: were able to pull out the victory against the forty 195 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: nine ers Life last week by getting takeaways on San 196 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: Francisco's final two possessions. The Niners were in position to 197 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: put that game away in down inside the red zone 198 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: inside the ten yard line, and the Cardinals force to fumble, 199 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: recovered it and then we're able to score the go 200 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: ahead points. And then they got a deflection and interception 201 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 1: of Brock Purty on San Francisco's final drive. So two 202 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: takeaways on the last two drives, they get a big 203 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 1: road victory. Packers on balance have done a pretty good 204 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: job protecting the football this year. You definitely need to 205 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: continue that against these guys on Sun. 206 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, and also on the other side of things, you know, 207 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 2: Zavier McKinney trying to get six in a row off 208 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 2: of Kyler Murray, who's only thrown two picks. Yeah, through 209 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 2: the first five games. So yeah. I mean, we could 210 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 2: sit up here every week and talk about how turnovers 211 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 2: are going to be a huge factor in the game. 212 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 2: They always are. But again, I think from when listening 213 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 2: to Jordan Love talk about it and some of the 214 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 2: maybe the mental errors, maybe some of the things he 215 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 2: got downgraded on from that game last week, correcting those 216 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 2: and being able to get on in a run like 217 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 2: he did at the second half of last season where 218 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 2: he had one interception over his last six regular season games, 219 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,719 Speaker 2: whatever it was, that's going to be really critical in 220 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 2: this one. The Cardinals in a lot of ways are 221 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 2: going to kind of threaten you. They aren't going to 222 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 2: give you as many versatile looks as what Minnesota did, 223 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,719 Speaker 2: but in terms of their playmakers, it's going to come 224 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 2: from everywhere. The other thing to keep in mind too, 225 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 2: I wrote about this week with Max and bow Melton, 226 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 2: the two brothers playing each other now in this game. 227 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 2: Max's snaps had been rising steadily over the last month, 228 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 2: in his first season, second round pick. He much like 229 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 2: Eddrian Cooper with the Packers, getting kind of integrated and 230 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 2: comfortable with this defense. Max has been doing the same 231 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 2: thing with the Cardinals as well. So thirty two snaps 232 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 2: last week for him played half the snaps. Very interesting 233 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 2: to see what those subpackages look like. Is he's kind 234 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 2: of been rising up that depth chart as well. 235 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, And I want to ask you about that 236 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: the Melton brothers story that is on Packers dot com. 237 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: It just went up shortly before we turned the cameras 238 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: on here this morning. Max Melton Bo Melton Bo is 239 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:09,079 Speaker 1: the older brother of the two, both draft picks and 240 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: now going to be playing against one another on the 241 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: same field, possibly lining up across from one another. Right 242 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: one's cornerback, one's a receiver. Just tell the audience kind 243 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: of what was your favorite part of putting this piece together, 244 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: and do be sure to check it out on our website. 245 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,959 Speaker 2: So many cool parts about this. I think the neatest 246 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 2: thing was the fact that both of his parents, Bo 247 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 2: and Max's parents they went to Rutgers and as it 248 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 2: coincidentally turned out, his dad, Gary Senior, ended up playing 249 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 2: for Greg Ciano two and Schiano is just at a 250 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 2: graduate assistant there now he's in his second tenure as 251 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 2: their head coach. His mom was a you know, a 252 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 2: basketball player for a very successful Rutgers women's basketball program 253 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 2: during her time there. And the thing I loved most 254 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 2: about it was the fact that they embraced those roots, 255 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 2: both Max and bo did. It took their own process 256 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 2: to end up going to Rutgers, but they accepted that. 257 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 2: And Bo again didn't commit to Rutgers when they were 258 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 2: at the peak of their powers with Shiano. I mean, 259 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 2: they were coming off a four win season in which 260 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 2: Kyle Flood got fired and then the first year as 261 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 2: Bo is a senior in high school, they win two 262 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 2: games with Chris ash But yet he stayed true to 263 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 2: that program, stayed true to himself, even wrote a letter 264 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 2: to his parents when he made the decision to commit 265 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 2: to Rutgers, telling him I'm going to Rutgers for you guys. 266 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 2: I want to continue our family's legacy. And then Max 267 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 2: ended up doing the same exact thing. So, seeing the 268 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 2: tight knit nature of their family, three brothers that all 269 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 2: went and played Division one football, their oldest brother, Gary 270 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 2: Paul Junior, he ended up going to Delaware State. They're 271 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 2: all going to be in attendance. Gary Senior and their 272 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 2: mom also got these really cool custom made jerseys. They 273 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 2: didn't want to do the thing where you just slice 274 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 2: the jersey in half and sew it. They did a 275 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 2: thing where they kind of like hemmed it where it's 276 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 2: they split two jerseys, but one is Bo's number eighty 277 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 2: on the back and the other one is Max's number sixteen. 278 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 2: I should say eighty on the front, Max's sixteen on 279 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 2: the back, and they flip that and they'll both wear 280 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 2: those jerseys for the game. So very special family, very 281 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 2: hard working family. And the fact that, as as Gary 282 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 2: Senior said, they could have never envisioned a scenario in 283 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 2: which their kids were playing in the National Football League, 284 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 2: let alone both of them at the same time. We'll 285 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 2: have to see their Their older brother is keeping his 286 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 2: fingers crossed that they're gonna end up lining up against 287 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 2: each other. He said, I didn't put this in the story, 288 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 2: but he's like, hey, if they want to tell Max, hey, 289 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 2: when when your brother's on the field, you just follow 290 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 2: him wherever he goes. He would love that they both 291 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 2: also play special teams, so it will be curious That's. 292 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: What I was going to ask. Is there a chance 293 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: with maybe with Bo being a flyer on the punt team, 294 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: and then would Max potentially line up across from him 295 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: as the you know, as the blocker of the flyer 296 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: on the outside on punt play. 297 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 2: So if you go off the film, they actually line 298 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 2: up typically on opposite side. 299 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: Oh okay. 300 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 2: So Bo didn't want to get into the strategy or 301 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 2: the scheme of this, but is there a chance that 302 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 2: rich Bassacia or the staff over at the Cardinals would 303 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 2: maybe flip them over to give them some jammer and 304 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 2: flyer opportunities against each other potentially, But more than anything, 305 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 2: both of those guys and Bo had had a great 306 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 2: quote in the story too, saying that when his brother 307 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 2: went to Rutgers, that was enough for him. If it 308 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 2: would have all ended there for both of them, or 309 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 2: at least for Bo, he would have been happy the 310 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 2: fact that he got to play one year high school 311 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 2: ball with his younger brother two years because of COVID 312 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 2: with them at Rutgers. He would have been totally satisfied 313 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 2: the fact that they were with each other on draft 314 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 2: night for both of the times that they got picked 315 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 2: and bow in the seventh round and twenty twenty two. 316 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 2: Max obviously is the forty third pick. This past April, 317 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 2: they knew right away that this game was on the horizon. 318 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 2: They knew the Packers and Cardinals were going to play 319 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 2: each other. So to be able to carry their family's 320 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 2: name into that, there's a huge sense of pride that 321 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 2: goes along with that. In addition to the fact, I 322 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 2: think there's going to be a lot of Milton family 323 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 2: members bawling up in the stands watching their two sons 324 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 2: and watching those two kids go at it. 325 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: Well, if they do line up across from one another, 326 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: whether it be on a punt or perhaps on a 327 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: Packers offensive play from scrimmage, that would make a family 328 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: photo for the ages, right, I mean that would that 329 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: would be that would be an all timer, right. 330 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 2: Gary said, that's all he wants. He'll be balling, he'll 331 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 2: be crying everything he gets that we were I was 332 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 2: sitting there with Bill Rabier at Bo's locker, just kind 333 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 2: of following up with him on on Wednesday, and we 334 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 2: so we got the dig brothers. We're the only ones 335 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 2: that I could think of. I don't know if there's 336 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 2: any other, but it's it's not exactly something you can 337 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 2: just ask Elias, like, Okay, what brothers played against each 338 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 2: other in terms of the contrasting positions offensive lineman, defensive linement, 339 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 2: what have you? I came up with Stefan and Trayvon Diggs, 340 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 2: But I mean otherwise I can't think of early any. 341 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's the only one that really. 342 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 2: You have the mccordy's, you have the Kelsey's, you have 343 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 2: all these people, but. 344 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: You have the various kickers. You know, yeah, there have 345 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: been you know, brothers of kickers on different teams. But 346 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: but yeah, in terms of actually lining up, you know, 347 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: on at competing positions on the field at the same time, 348 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: it's incredibly rare. 349 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 2: And Gary Junior had said too, He's like, that's the 350 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 2: cool thing about is like, my brothers play the antithesis 351 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 2: of each other as far as their positions are concerned. 352 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 2: So while you know Travis Kelsey and Jason Kelsey's talks 353 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 2: about well, I just cheer for the offense, Vicky's gonna 354 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,679 Speaker 2: have some decisions to make and how things are going 355 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:06,880 Speaker 2: to play out on Sunday. 356 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 1: There you go, Well, I want to get to our 357 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 1: keys to victory, but I'll take care of some sponsor business. 358 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:16,479 Speaker 1: For serious XMNFL Radio delivers hard hitting analysis and up 359 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: to the minute NFL news that true football fanatics need. 360 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: Twenty four to seven, three sixty five and had cousin subs. 361 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 1: We have something for everyone like our Wisconsin cheese curds, 362 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: mac and cheese, golden fries, and creamy shakes, all paired 363 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: with your favorite sub or submona bowl cousin subs fifty 364 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 1: plus years of better. One quick note on the Cardinals. 365 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: I forgot to mention when we were talking about their offense, 366 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: they have lost one of their starting offensive linemen, Andez 367 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 1: is out for the season. 368 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 2: Do you know who he was? Do you know who 369 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:43,199 Speaker 2: Will Hernandez is? 370 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 1: I vaguely recall he was Aaron Jones's guard at that 371 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: Texas at UTEPS. I knew there was something in the 372 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: back of my mind that I knew something about Will 373 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: Hernandez and and you've got it, that's the one. So 374 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:01,479 Speaker 1: the Cardinals will be plugging in a new guard in 375 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: this game, so we'll see how perhaps that impacts their 376 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 1: offensive line. But keys to victory what jumps out at 377 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,679 Speaker 1: you the top of your list for this one? For 378 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 1: the Packers to leave lambeau Field Sunday afternoon at four 379 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: and two. 380 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,360 Speaker 2: Packers got to run the football. Arizona is another team 381 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,120 Speaker 2: here that has kind of struggled to stop the run 382 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 2: so far this season, twenty eighth in rushing yards, I mean, 383 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 2: twentieth in yards per carry, but. 384 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 1: I think it's about one hundred and fifty a game, yeah, 385 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: around there that they're allowing. 386 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's actually yeah, so yeah. I mean, I think 387 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 2: you got to get Josh Shacobs established in this thing, 388 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 2: and they kind of trying to find some hard yards 389 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 2: last week. They eventually got them, But I mean, I 390 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 2: think that's going to be a big thing being able 391 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 2: to let me put it this way, the better that 392 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 2: you run the football, I think, the less chances that 393 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 2: Jordan Love has to take with throwing the ball. That's 394 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,640 Speaker 2: sort of been the last year and a half kind 395 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 2: of the standard. It feels like when that's a good 396 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,479 Speaker 2: way to put all Jordan protects the ball, well, so 397 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 2: you want to do that. And then also the fact 398 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 2: is they have not been good on third down. And 399 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 2: if you think about it in terms of I'm speaking 400 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 2: of the defense of Arizona Cardinals, it makes sense because 401 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 2: when you're giving up yards like that, you're getting into 402 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 2: more favorable second and medium, third and short situations, and 403 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 2: I steel like that's one area where the Packers again 404 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 2: needed to do better. Last week. They had to go 405 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 2: a bulk of that game without a third down conversion. 406 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 2: This one, I think got to come out really set 407 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 2: that early. 408 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I agree. I agree with you one hundred percent. 409 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: With regard to the running game. You know, the Packers 410 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: were facing the worst rush defense in the league last 411 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 1: week in the Rams, but the Rams kind of loaded 412 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: up to stop the run. They didn't play, they didn't 413 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: play two safeties back. They didn't play I mean Matt 414 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: Lafleur estimated they played maybe ten snaps of two shell 415 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: They were bringing extra safety down. They were not going 416 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,199 Speaker 1: to let the Packers run the ball the way some 417 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: other opponents had run the ball against them. And unfortunately 418 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 1: then it it took a while. It really kind of 419 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: took probably that last drive of the first half quite frankly, 420 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 1: before Jordan Love found his rhythm and got things going 421 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: in the passing game. If the Cardinals are going to 422 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 1: load up to stop the run, I don't know if 423 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: they will, but the Packers need to find that efficiency 424 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: in the passing game early, because you don't just run 425 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: the ball to run it into a brick wall. If 426 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 1: a team is loaded up, if they're playing single high 427 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,959 Speaker 1: safety and it's lots of one on ones on the outside, 428 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: that's an invitation to throw the football, and you have 429 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 1: to find completions. You have to find consistency and efficiency 430 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 1: in that regard. The other thing for me that this 431 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: game comes down to is simply the explosive plays. I 432 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: think the Packers are gonna have their chances to make some, 433 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: as they have every week so far this season against 434 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: this particular defense. But this is about limiting the explosive 435 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 1: plays that the Cardinals might be able to make. Whether 436 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: it's Kyler Murray on the zone read or on a 437 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: scramble where he's buying time and extending the play, or 438 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison Junior doing things down the field. You have 439 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 1: to limit the explosive plays. You have to really make 440 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: the Cardinals earn everything they're gonna get, make them go 441 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: the long way to score and perhaps then a mistake 442 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 1: happens along the way and they don't get the point 443 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: production they're looking for. If the Cardinals, if the Cardinals start, 444 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: you know, hitting the Packers with explosives. This could turn 445 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: into a rough day for the defense. 446 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 2: P Fie. I think it's also a really important game with 447 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 2: Xavier McKinney and whatever they decide to do at the 448 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 2: other safety position, if that ends up being Evan Williams again, 449 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 2: or you know, Alexander comes back, what the domino effect 450 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 2: of that is on the rest of the secondary. But 451 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 2: specifically looking at Xavier, he was mentioning last week with 452 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford looking him off, that was about the most 453 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 2: that that's happened to him so far this season. People 454 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 2: just don't want to go with the ball with where 455 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 2: he is right now. And I feel like when you 456 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 2: look at Marvin Harrison Junior in the big place, he 457 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 2: making and he can do it after the catch too. 458 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 2: But the benefit of having someone like x back there 459 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 2: is that that's what challenges the quarterback when in terms 460 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 2: of wanting to threaten the top of a secondary, you know, 461 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 2: the ceiling of a secondary, and every single time that 462 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 2: ball has aired out, just with his quickness, with his 463 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 2: instincts and just his football iqback there, it seems like 464 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 2: Xavier always puts himself in a position to make a 465 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,439 Speaker 2: play on that if not intercepting it breaking it up 466 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 2: like he did late in that game last week as well. 467 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 2: So this is a great game to have a player 468 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 2: like Zabra McKinney on the back end. But at the 469 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 2: same time, if you do rupture, if Marvin Harrison Junior 470 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 2: does get one on you, I think the big key 471 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 2: is looking at some of these games these last few weeks, 472 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 2: is you can't let them do it again. You have 473 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 2: to be able to rebound from that, because otherwise it 474 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 2: can be a really long afternoon for your defense. 475 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. Looking around the rest of the league. 476 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,360 Speaker 1: At week six, quickly before we go the NFC North 477 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: leaders the Minnesota Vikings at five and oh they are 478 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: on their bye week. The Detroit Lions are back from 479 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 1: there by they are three to one. They head to 480 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: Dallas to take on the Cowboys. Dallas coming off of 481 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: a very gritty, hard fought, bad weather, late night victory 482 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: at Pittsburgh with the late touchdown there. And I'll just 483 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: say this, it would not surprise me in the slightest 484 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: if the Detroit Lions go back into Dallas and run 485 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: another tackle eligible play by the goal line right possible. 486 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: Dan camp is gonna is gonna put that in and 487 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 1: and uh and they're gonna do They're gonna do it again. 488 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 1: Maybe not. I don't know. 489 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 2: Dan Campbell's you just had to say he's gonna option 490 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 2: out the quarterback and he'll have the offensive one and 491 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 2: take the snap this time as well. There we go, 492 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 2: riverboat Dan. 493 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: A couple other A couple other interesting games though. Actually 494 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: Thursday night football San Francisco is at Seattle. Suddenly the 495 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: Seahawks had started three and oh, they're now three and two. 496 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,880 Speaker 1: The forty nine Ers, the defending obviously NFC champions Super 497 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 1: Bowl participants last year. They are two and three, looking 498 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 1: to avoid going to UH to two and four. Very 499 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: interesting game on on Thursday night the Chicago Bears looking 500 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: to get to four and two. They have the Jacksonville 501 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: Jaguars in London early on Sunday morning. Your thoughts on 502 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: any of those games? 503 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 2: Did forty nine ers run this thing? Two ways? They 504 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 2: either make it, they threaten the World Championship, they threaten 505 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 2: a Super Bowl, or everyone just gets hurt the same year. 506 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 2: Like it's the weirdest thing. It's like some teams rebuild 507 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 2: the like the nine have to unfortunately like heal like 508 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 2: it's just again, I was saying to my buddy this 509 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 2: morning on my Jake Moody got hurt. Yeah, Like it's 510 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 2: like like. 511 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: When you tell me I had to sign a kicker. 512 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 2: Now, when you talk about like bad luck and misfortune, 513 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 2: I mean, I understand people always perseverate on the Packers 514 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 2: and what their injury situation is looking Like I tell 515 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,199 Speaker 2: you what, every three years or so, the forty nine 516 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 2: ers just get hit with all of it and and 517 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,640 Speaker 2: we'll have to see how they respond. They'd done okay 518 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 2: up until you know, these last few weeks, but it's 519 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 2: a lot to take onto the ship Washington. Doing the 520 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 2: short trip to Baltimore is my probably game of the week. 521 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 2: I'm just so excited to see how, you know, Daniels 522 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 2: and everything he's accomplishing so far. Baltimore has kind of 523 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 2: battled itself back as well. 524 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was an zero to two start for the Ravens, 525 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 1: and they've gotten things rolling in the right direction. 526 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. So I think Daniel's going up against that crew 527 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 2: is going to be really really interesting to watch and 528 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 2: seeing if he can continue the street. Because I mean, 529 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,479 Speaker 2: right now, at this point in time, I think we 530 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 2: all would agree we're looking at the offense, a player, 531 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 2: a rookie the year at this point. 532 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: Well, especially one week after Joe Burrow just threw five 533 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: touchdown passes against that Ravens defense, and now that Ravens 534 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: defense has to deal with Jayden Daniels. 535 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 2: Yea Ravens, that's been a Yeah. They took a lot 536 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 2: of hits with their personnel, a lot of hits with 537 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 2: their coaching staff, and it's been a harder road ahead 538 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 2: this year. Yeah. 539 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 1: I think so Monday Night Football as well. Two teams 540 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 1: in the AFC East that are about as desperate for 541 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: a victory as it gets. The Buffalo Bills coming off 542 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 1: of losing at the Horn a fifty nine yard field 543 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: goal by the Houston Texans and of the walk off variety. 544 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 1: So the Bills lose a crusher there. And then the Jets, 545 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: of course, now having changed head coaches, changed offensive play callers, 546 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:47,439 Speaker 1: all kinds of chaos and turmoil at with regard to 547 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 1: the Jets, and they're playing at home on Monday Night 548 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:50,919 Speaker 1: Football against the division arrival. 549 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. And I mean two weeks ago I was talking 550 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 2: about how Buffalo was the team to me that was 551 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 2: right at the top of the heat of this league, 552 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 2: just based on how much everybody had counted them out 553 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 2: based and how many people had what they had to 554 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 2: say about Josh Allen and yeah, unfortunately you lose a 555 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 2: couple tight ones and this is where you sit when 556 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 2: you're at three and two. So yeah, it'll be a 557 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 2: big challenge for them. Very interesting to see how the 558 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 2: Jets respond. You know, there's those things go one of 559 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 2: two ways. Either you rally after coach gets fired in 560 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 2: that next week, or sometimes you get walloped. 561 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Either either there's a there's a galvanizing that 562 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: goes on, or there's more of a more of a 563 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: splintering and falling. Yeah, that's it goes on, and everybody's 564 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: going to be watching the Jets, uh to see what 565 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 1: happens there. So with that we'll call it a rap 566 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,199 Speaker 1: on this edition a Packers Unscript. To be sure to 567 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 1: follow all of our coverage of the team. Everything from 568 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: Sunday's game against the Cardinals will be on Packers dot 569 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 1: com and check out Wes's really cool piece on Max 570 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 1: and Bo Melton that is also on our website. So 571 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: for Wes, I am Mike, thank you for tuning in. Everybody. 572 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 1: We will see you next time