WEBVTT - Patriots Playbook 7/27: Training Camp Storylines 0:00:05.880 --> 0:00:09.280 This is Patriots Playbook. The legend, can I tell you 0:00:09.320 --> 0:00:12.200 in a sort of a sick twisted way. I like 0:00:12.480 --> 0:00:15.760 Seattle's neon Green. That is the most illogical appetite. I 0:00:15.760 --> 0:00:17.760 don't like the colors uniforms. They look like a bunch 0:00:17.800 --> 0:00:20.120 of floating blueberries out on the field. You've really done 0:00:20.120 --> 0:00:21.920 it this time, haven't you. Wanta Let's put it this way. 0:00:21.960 --> 0:00:25.599 There's been some high level meetings being held and much 0:00:25.720 --> 0:00:30.000 discussion has taken place, and now you know the rest 0:00:30.080 --> 0:00:33.520 of the story. Now here's your host of Patriots Playbook, 0:00:33.960 --> 0:00:37.959 John Rook. It's great to say that when we come 0:00:37.960 --> 0:00:40.040 back and do the playbook live. It's great to say 0:00:40.040 --> 0:00:42.839 when we actually have breaking news, do you have a 0:00:42.840 --> 0:00:47.800 breaking news sounder, Matt that we can play and when 0:00:47.880 --> 0:00:53.240 news breaks, we break it. Yes, I love it. Welcome 0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:57.360 into the playbook, everybody, because we are here at Gillette Stadium. 0:00:57.360 --> 0:01:01.320 It's day one of NFL training camp. Got an action 0:01:01.360 --> 0:01:03.480 packed a couple of hours for you. Here will update 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:05.480 you on some of the things that we observed and 0:01:05.520 --> 0:01:09.000 some of the things that happened at practice this morning, 0:01:09.000 --> 0:01:12.640 because practices has actually ended for the day. And of course, 0:01:13.080 --> 0:01:17.000 if you didn't know already, Sir Elton John is performing 0:01:17.000 --> 0:01:19.440 here tonight, first of two concerts that he's giving here 0:01:19.440 --> 0:01:24.120 at Gillette and so it's just a madhouse around everywhere 0:01:24.680 --> 0:01:26.960 the stadium tonight. But I mentioned breaking news. The Pro 0:01:27.040 --> 0:01:30.319 Football Hall of Fame has just released its finalists for 0:01:30.400 --> 0:01:33.119 the Coaching Contributor for the Class of twenty twenty three. 0:01:33.160 --> 0:01:35.120 We know Richard Seymour is a part of the Class 0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:37.760 of twenty twenty two getting in this summer, but in 0:01:37.760 --> 0:01:41.000 the Class of twenty twenty three, our own Robert K. 0:01:41.160 --> 0:01:44.639 Kraft is made the list of twelve finalists for twenty 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:48.320 twenty three. So congratulations to mister Kraft. I can't say 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:50.840 that I'm terribly surprised. I can't imagine too many people 0:01:50.840 --> 0:01:55.400 in Patriots Nation would be surprised with this, largely because 0:01:55.440 --> 0:02:00.240 of his influence overall, not only on the fortunes of 0:02:00.360 --> 0:02:08.400 this franchise, but really fortunes, innovation, wealth, growth, popularity, all 0:02:08.440 --> 0:02:12.120 of it as far as pro football in this country 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:15.120 is considered. So you know, mister Kraft, the short of 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:18.280 it is owner and chairman and CEO of the Patriots 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:21.600 since nineteen ninety four. Patriots, of course, have won six 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:25.720 Super Bowls in that time, and he's obviously very deserving 0:02:25.840 --> 0:02:27.680 and it would be a stunner if he did not 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:30.000 make the Class of twenty twenty three. But at the 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:32.200 same time, we did want to let you know that 0:02:32.240 --> 0:02:34.720 the Pro Football Hall of Fame just released that like 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:38.080 literally minutes ago, close to the top of the hours. 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:41.400 So congratulations to mister Kraft, Congratulations to the Kraft family. 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:47.280 It's extraordinarily deserved. And I think we as observers, as media, 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:50.320 as fans, as hanger honors like you know, me and 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:54.200 Marine are, we do whatever we can to help the cause, right, 0:02:54.720 --> 0:02:57.720 I think we should. All right, So here's the way 0:02:57.720 --> 0:03:01.359 we rolled for this week, because for the uninitiated, our 0:03:01.400 --> 0:03:03.760 program during the off season is once a month. We 0:03:03.840 --> 0:03:07.320 usually picked the last Wednesday of a month, in particular 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:09.519 until we get to the regular season, where we run 0:03:09.639 --> 0:03:12.520 weekly shows during the course of the year, and so 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:16.160 this is our next to last preseason or shall we say, 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:20.240 offseason program, even though technically today was the day training 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:22.440 camp started, not only in New England but around the 0:03:22.520 --> 0:03:28.720 National Football League. So a pretty cool thing. Football is back. 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:32.799 It's it's it's I just told the security guard on 0:03:32.840 --> 0:03:37.000 the way in I said, Honestly, I'm happy and I'm 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:41.040 sad at the same time. Have you gotten a chance 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:43.720 to go to the beach. I haven't played enough golf yet. 0:03:44.840 --> 0:03:47.560 I haven't had a chance to sun my backside yet. 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:49.680 You know, not that the sun wants to look at 0:03:49.720 --> 0:03:51.600 my backside, but I just haven't had a chance to 0:03:51.600 --> 0:03:54.840 do that yet. The one thing that we love to 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:57.400 do about July's show, and we'll do one at our 0:03:57.480 --> 0:04:00.120 last off season show, if you will. We'll actually be 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:03.600 on August thirty first, right Wednesday, August thirty first, and 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:05.800 then we step right into the regular season for the 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:08.400 first week of September. I think that's September eighth, Thursday, 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:11.600 September eight. Look at the calendar match turning he's looking. 0:04:11.600 --> 0:04:14.000 I believe that's the date. At any rate, that'll be 0:04:14.040 --> 0:04:16.440 our first regular season show technically, So we'll do one 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:19.400 in August thirty one, and then we'll start weekly throughout 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:23.720 the course of the season on September eighth. But our 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:27.039 July show has always been unique in the last six 0:04:27.160 --> 0:04:29.120 seven years now, I think this is the seventh year 0:04:29.120 --> 0:04:31.320 that we've done this. Because many of you know that 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:35.560 part of the routine that I have during the course 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:39.160 of the calendar year is to serve as a college 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:42.320 professor at Dean College, which is an academic partner of 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:46.680 the Patriots and craft sports and entertainment, and the subjects 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:49.120 that I teach have to do certainly with communications and 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:52.600 sports broadcasting. So this is the seventh summer that I 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:57.040 have actually taught a pre college summer program. Or if 0:04:57.040 --> 0:04:59.400 you want to college summer camp, you can. But these 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:01.760 guys are not you know, your typical summer camper, summer 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:04.640 campers with you know, backpacks and lollipops and you know, 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:07.599 you know, cut knees and things like that. No, these 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:11.120 guys that I have in the group this year are 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:14.360 all sixteen, seventeen, eighteen years old, getting ready to go 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:16.839 to college. They're looking at schools that they want to 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:22.600 go to potentially move themselves into this realm. I know, 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:25.360 it's hard to believe that someone would actually want to 0:05:25.400 --> 0:05:27.520 do what I do or what you want to do, Matt, 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:31.360 for a living, but hey, we're here to edgemacate them, 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:34.600 you know, and maybe even scare them away. It's possible, 0:05:35.360 --> 0:05:38.479 although knowing as the way we roll on this show, 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:41.599 when we do this show, they may leave the studio today. 0:05:41.720 --> 0:05:44.279 Thank god, I can do better than that. So I 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:46.120 you know, hey, that's great. I hope that they do. 0:05:46.560 --> 0:05:48.360 I would very much love the day that I get 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:51.760 sent packing to be replaced by somebody who I taught. 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:55.120 I mean, if you're gonna we're all gonna be replaced, right, 0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:59.760 So I'd be perfectly okay, perfectly okay if it's somebody 0:05:59.839 --> 0:06:02.159 I taught, because then I can hold it over his 0:06:02.200 --> 0:06:04.520 head for the rest of his life. See that's the 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:06.920 way it works. And if I ever need a job, yo, dude, 0:06:06.960 --> 0:06:10.080 remember whose job you stole? Okay, by the way, that 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:13.279 has happened already in my career. Who haven't you taught? 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:16.440 Kind of seems like that now, doesn't it. I know. 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:20.640 So today the setup today is is we've come up 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:24.000 with four key questions. We call them four big questions 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:26.520 however you want to talk about it, but four big 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:30.520 questions for the patriots surrounding in twenty twenty two. And 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:34.560 I've given each panel, each group of students here today 0:06:35.480 --> 0:06:39.200 my sports broadcasters a subject to research, which they've been 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:42.960 doing since last night. I've been working feverishly today to 0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:46.080 make sure that they overturned every stone they possibly can, 0:06:46.760 --> 0:06:49.119 and we're just going to talk football surrounding these four 0:06:49.200 --> 0:06:51.640 main topics for the next couple of hours, and we 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:54.039 hope that you listen in, we hope that you enjoy 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:57.960 and we want you to participate. So you know, whether 0:06:58.000 --> 0:07:01.839 you agree or disagree with anything that is said on 0:07:01.839 --> 0:07:04.560 the program by either me and I know most everybody disagrees, 0:07:04.839 --> 0:07:07.080 but that's fine because that's how the world rolls. This 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:08.839 is how we keep it rotating on its taxes. We 0:07:08.920 --> 0:07:11.120 disagree a lot, and that's fine. But if you want 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:13.480 to agree or disagree with anything anybody has to say today, 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:15.560 here's how you get in touch with the program. It's 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:18.880 a toll free telephone number eight five five pats five hundred, 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:23.560 eight five five pats five hundred. Pick up the phone, 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:25.880 dial it go, You're on. You can talk to the 0:07:25.880 --> 0:07:29.320 marine himself and he won't let yell at you. He 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:31.120 might make you drop and do twenty, but he won't 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:34.200 yell at you. And then if you want to try email, 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:38.400 web radio at patriots dot com. Pretty simple. Web radio 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:40.360 at patriots dot com. You can also hut me up 0:07:40.360 --> 0:07:43.880 on Twitter. It's at JR Broadcaster the Twitter handle, or 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:45.800 you can go to my Facebook page at John dot 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:48.840 rook are ok and log in there and post your 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:51.840 question where we have the show posted for today when 0:07:51.920 --> 0:07:54.760 we preview the show, and you can participate that way. 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:57.760 So there's four different ways that you can actually participate 0:07:57.800 --> 0:08:01.240 in the show. Pick up the phone, email, tweet, or 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:05.040 post on Facebook. The topics that we're going to kind 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:07.040 of hit at today, and maybe there's a topic in 0:08:07.040 --> 0:08:09.480 particular that you're kind of thinking about yourself, Like, you know, 0:08:09.560 --> 0:08:11.840 I really think this is, like, you know, the number 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:14.560 one issue that I'm thinking about with his team coming 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:17.600 in the topics, we're going to talk about who will 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:23.160 ultimately play in the defensive backfield, especially at corner. Number two, 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:27.360 what will the Patriots linebacking corps look like, and who's 0:08:27.400 --> 0:08:30.960 gonna start do we even really know? Number three? What 0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:34.160 young player or players And largely we're kind of holding 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:36.440 this to first or second year players, but it could 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:38.080 be a younger player who hasn't had a lot of 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:41.199 playing time in his NFL career. What young player or 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:45.960 players could rise and surprise with playing time for this 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:50.040 team this season? And then topic number four today, does 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:57.720 it really matter who calls the plays? Everybody's so fixated 0:08:57.760 --> 0:08:59.800 on Oh my god, the Patriots don't have him off 0:08:59.840 --> 0:09:02.240 in a coordinator. They don't have a deepens coordinator. Mac 0:09:02.320 --> 0:09:04.120 Jones is growth is gonna be stunted. What are we 0:09:04.160 --> 0:09:09.040 gonna do. It's just chill, That's what we're gonna do. 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:11.000 We're gonna be chill about it and let him try 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:13.480 to play. Now, look, if we get into a week 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:17.480 four or five or six and this team is flopping 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:22.000 like a fish out of water, then okay, fair game. 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:26.640 Coaches are fair game because clearly whatever they've strategized to 0:09:26.679 --> 0:09:30.000 do is not working. But I think at the very least, look, 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:31.840 and I know that a lot in the media certainly 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:34.480 learned around this area. Know Tommy Curran and Phil Perry 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:35.800 and some of the guys that we have on this 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:39.120 show from time to time, they're all kind of, you know, 0:09:39.320 --> 0:09:42.199 quizzically scratching their heads and wonder, well, I'll come to 0:09:42.200 --> 0:09:43.800 the Patrons are the only team that don't have this 0:09:43.880 --> 0:09:46.240 in the NFL. And look, I think we all have 0:09:46.280 --> 0:09:52.160 to understand that Bill Belichick marches to the beat of 0:09:52.160 --> 0:09:56.600 his own drummer, and he always has. Bill Belichick also 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:03.840 largely looks after his own and Matt Patricia and Joe 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:07.520 Judge are his own. They come from his tree. They've 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:10.360 been head coaches. Now, you can certainly make the argument 0:10:10.360 --> 0:10:13.640 that they haven't entirely been successful head coaches in the NFL, 0:10:14.000 --> 0:10:16.160 but they have been head coaches in the NFL. So 0:10:16.240 --> 0:10:18.719 they had to have something something going on in order 0:10:18.760 --> 0:10:20.720 to get that job in the first place. Now, let's 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:23.440 all recall here, let's go, let's let's take the way 0:10:23.440 --> 0:10:25.640 back machine back in the nineteen nineties for a moment. 0:10:25.640 --> 0:10:29.200 Because Bill Belichick, when he started as a head coach 0:10:29.200 --> 0:10:33.240 in the NFL, how did he do in Cleveland? Not good? 0:10:34.480 --> 0:10:40.280 Got fired. So Bill didn't become Bill BB, as we 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:42.000 like to call him. You didn't become that until he 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:46.400 came to New England and started winning. So he's going 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:54.040 to do what he can to potentially I think, groom, grow, enhance, 0:10:54.960 --> 0:11:00.760 help out, encourage, all the all the above to his 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:03.040 guys that have come from his coaching tree. Number one 0:11:03.080 --> 0:11:05.319 because he's friends with them, number two because he sees 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:07.800 a football future in them. At number three, he knows 0:11:07.840 --> 0:11:09.880 they want to be head coaches again. So he's gonna 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:14.120 give him every opportunity to improve that resume, move up 0:11:14.160 --> 0:11:17.240 the ladder and get the job again. Now, you may 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:19.560 or may not agree with that assessment. You might think 0:11:19.600 --> 0:11:21.640 that Matt Patricia is the worst thing since slice bread, 0:11:21.840 --> 0:11:24.480 that Judge, Joe Judge doesn't know his ankle from you 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:28.040 his head. Okay, maybe that's the case. I don't know. 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:31.400 I'm not here to judge that. What I am here 0:11:31.400 --> 0:11:34.000 to tell you is how I think and how I perceive. 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:36.560 Bill Belichick operates. And this is his twenty second here 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:40.160 is head coach that he's embarking upon today with training 0:11:40.200 --> 0:11:43.880 camp opening up here today. So that's the thought process here. 0:11:45.160 --> 0:11:47.600 So it really doesn't matter. I don't think who calls 0:11:47.640 --> 0:11:51.160 the plays. But we'll have a group of aspiring sports 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:53.440 broadcaster to talk about that very subject here in just 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:56.000 a little bit. Just quickly, I'll hit you on a 0:11:56.000 --> 0:11:58.000 couple of the headlines from training camp today, and then 0:11:58.000 --> 0:12:01.120 we're gonna jump into our subjects. But Patricia, speaking of 0:12:01.160 --> 0:12:03.720 coach Patricia, he did call the plays today at practice. 0:12:03.760 --> 0:12:07.320 In case anybody cares, anybody's interested, he did all the 0:12:07.320 --> 0:12:09.560 play calling during the eleven on elevens and all the 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:12.560 seven on sevens today. I don't know that that means 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:17.880 anything other than he started. I feel quite certain that 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:19.840 at some point in time there will be others that 0:12:19.880 --> 0:12:22.880 will probably call plays, but at the very least he 0:12:22.960 --> 0:12:26.400 has started with that Mac Jones during the eleven and 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:32.520 elevens and seven on sevens and thanks to Andrew Callahan 0:12:32.559 --> 0:12:35.960 from The Herald for passing along some stats here eighteen 0:12:36.000 --> 0:12:37.679 for twenty two throwing the ball, So a pretty good 0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:40.400 start to the day. I know that Brian Hoyer had 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:43.160 a couple of lawn darts that he threw into Davante 0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:45.400 Parker in the end zone, so it looked like Davante was, 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:49.320 especially in short yardage situations, Mike could develop into a 0:12:49.360 --> 0:12:52.480 red zone threat. I don't know, but it certainly looked 0:12:52.720 --> 0:12:55.480 from my manage point like, Okay, we're gonna test this, 0:12:55.520 --> 0:12:57.280 We're gonna test it early, and we're gonna see him 0:12:57.320 --> 0:13:01.000 pick on some corners and the Patriots admittedly, we're not 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:02.560 sure what we have a corner, which is one of 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:05.480 our topics we're going to talk about today. But the 0:13:05.480 --> 0:13:08.600 Patriots corners aren't exactly you know, six foot seven out 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:12.120 there either, and DeVante is a big dude, so we 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:14.560 might see more of that. That doesn't necessarily mean it's 0:13:14.600 --> 0:13:18.680 going to happen somewhere else. But the parker did do 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:22.679 well today in red zone drills three contested catches for touchdowns, 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:29.000 and he lost one to Jalen Mills, So kudos to Mills. Mills, 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:32.360 by the way, my thinking is he probably has the 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:35.720 inside track for one of the starting spots, probably, but 0:13:35.840 --> 0:13:37.720 we got, you know, a month of practice to go 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:39.960 here gang before we really have to start thinking about it, 0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:43.760 and three preseason games to get through. But at the 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:45.800 very least that's one of the names you could think about. 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:49.120 Joe On Williams also had an interception today if you're 0:13:49.120 --> 0:13:52.680 thinking defensive backs and backfield as well pass breakups. Mills 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:56.480 had one, Bledsoe had one. So let's see what else 0:13:57.000 --> 0:14:00.720 offense won the day. Callahan tweeted out earlier that offense 0:14:00.800 --> 0:14:03.360 one to day except from a red zone stretch with 0:14:03.400 --> 0:14:07.240 four pass breakups in six plays. Okay, well, it's not 0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:09.160 like the I would tell you I would explain that 0:14:09.160 --> 0:14:11.120 off first of all by saying, hey, good job by 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:13.400 the defense. Second of all, it's not like they didn't 0:14:13.400 --> 0:14:16.920 know what was coming when you're in red zone drills. Okay, 0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:19.080 so they kind of know that they're gonna get picked on. 0:14:19.400 --> 0:14:21.400 So the fact that they were able to knock those 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:23.760 plays off, not close passes around. I don't think it's 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:27.520 too much to get terribly serious about, but hey, pretty 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:29.760 good start there. And the other guy that I'm kind 0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:31.320 of looking at it, I'm really going to be anxious 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:34.840 to watch throughout. And maybe this is where my first 0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:36.760 group of students can kind of chime in with. Here 0:14:37.160 --> 0:14:41.720 is Taekwon Thornton, rookie wide receiver from Baylor, and he 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:45.000 made a couple of diving end zone catches for touchdowns 0:14:45.000 --> 0:14:47.680 today in practice. So a good start for the rookie 0:14:47.960 --> 0:14:52.040 showing some early separation in these situations. All right, So 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:55.720 my dean sports broadcasters are here. I got Alex, I 0:14:55.720 --> 0:14:59.120 got John, I got Mike at the microphones here. So guys, 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:02.280 I'm gonna let you introduce yourself and tell us where 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:05.920 you're from. Hey, everybody, I am Alex kuchen Meister, and 0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:09.600 I am from Wilton, Connecticut. Wilton, Connecticut, Wilton, Connecticut. So 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:11.480 I'm Wilton, Connecticut. Are you a Giants fan or a 0:15:11.520 --> 0:15:16.240 Patriots fan? I'm neither. Actually, what yeah, I'm actually a 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:20.240 Detroit Lions fan. What Yeah, it's a little bit of a. 0:15:20.600 --> 0:15:23.360 It's not as fun to watch those games as Patriots games, 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:26.920 but I still enjoy the NFL. So you probably have 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:30.800 a definitive idea about what you think on Matt Patricia's part, right, Yes, 0:15:30.880 --> 0:15:33.000 I definitely have my opinions about him. You want to 0:15:33.000 --> 0:15:36.480 share one, Well, my opinion is I do not think 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:39.800 that he should be in a head coaching role anytime soon, 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:42.480 and I just I feel like when he's not with 0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:44.840 Bill Belichick, he's not as successful as he could be. 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:48.080 Tell me one thing though, that you liked about Matt 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:51.240 Patricia when he was the coach of your Lions. I 0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:54.600 liked that he had multiple different defensive schemes for us 0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:57.400 to throw at other teams. I liked how we had 0:15:57.480 --> 0:16:01.120 Sometimes we'd send three guys, sometimes we'd say and six guys. 0:16:01.160 --> 0:16:04.120 It was never predictable what we do on defense whenever 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:05.720 he was our coach. That's what I liked about him, 0:16:05.720 --> 0:16:08.760 and that's what he brings from the defensive coordinator spot, 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:10.800 that he has fair assessment. What do you think then, 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:13.680 about everybody being up in arms? Here is Patriots fans thinking, 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:16.360 how can a defensive guy, or an offensive line guy, 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:19.360 or a guy who floundered to Detroit. How can he 0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:22.360 be the play caller for the Patriots this year? Well, 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:25.680 I think that his play calling, I think that he 0:16:25.760 --> 0:16:28.200 really could excel at the defensive side of that. I 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:31.640 haven't really seen him call offensive plays because I think 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:34.320 we had our offensive coordinator doing that whenever he was there. 0:16:34.880 --> 0:16:38.040 But I think that him play calling that could be successful. 0:16:38.080 --> 0:16:41.160 I think that the Patriots could really they could show 0:16:41.680 --> 0:16:45.120 better than their actual linebacker and defensive backspots are. They 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:49.120 could show a better performance than they really have there. 0:16:49.280 --> 0:16:51.160 That's the talent and I think he could really help 0:16:51.200 --> 0:16:53.520 them there. That's fair. What year are you in school, Alex, 0:16:53.720 --> 0:16:56.240 I am going into sophomore years. Sophomore year, Okay, so 0:16:56.280 --> 0:16:58.600 you're probably the youngest one in camp, right, Yes, I am. 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:01.960 You already determined that. Yeah. So, so how's the week 0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:04.880 in college been. It's been pretty fun. It's been pretty fun. 0:17:05.080 --> 0:17:07.600 I really enjoy hanging out with the older kids. They're 0:17:07.600 --> 0:17:10.240 pretty nice. We like to talk sports, we like to 0:17:10.240 --> 0:17:13.080 talk to the entire NFL, and I get to hear 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:16.240 some Patriots perspectives here that I wouldn't really here normally 0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:18.760 in Connecticut. How did you get to be a Lions fan? Though, 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:21.360 can I ask you that one too? My dad actually 0:17:21.400 --> 0:17:24.440 he grew up right outside Detroit as a kid. Yeah 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:26.919 he was. He was one of the big Lions fans 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:30.720 up there, gotcha? Okay, fair enough? All right? John, introduce yourself. 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:34.639 Where are you from? I'm John McHale and I'm from Nyack, 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:37.719 New York. Nayak, Oh my god, a New Yorker. So 0:17:37.880 --> 0:17:40.800 let me guess Giants or Jets. If you're Nayak, you're 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:46.040 neither there neither which team I go for? The Packers? Really, 0:17:46.680 --> 0:17:50.480 what is wrong with you? Guys? Really? How did you 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:53.360 get to be a Packer fan? Honestly, it's just by 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:58.600 random choice. I just just you know, just pick them, 0:17:58.680 --> 0:18:02.639 just randomly. Yeah, okay, all right, fair enough. Mike introduce yourself. 0:18:02.640 --> 0:18:09.120 Where you're from. I'm Michael Batson and I'm off from Chicago, Illinois. Wow, Chicago. 0:18:09.200 --> 0:18:11.359 I got three out of staters here. This is unbelievable. 0:18:11.359 --> 0:18:14.080 And it's your team, the Bears. Yeah really, no kidding? 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:16.760 All right? What do you like about the Bears? And 0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:18.760 what do you not like about the Bears? Because we 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:22.640 won't mention the Bears again this afternoon? Probably, well, well 0:18:22.640 --> 0:18:25.040 with NAGGI was hard to watch because a play Cang 0:18:25.200 --> 0:18:28.520 was just so you know Mas and you know, you know, 0:18:28.600 --> 0:18:31.119 you see Kansas City throwing these like thirty yard you 0:18:31.160 --> 0:18:34.159 know throws and open you know, calls and then and 0:18:34.160 --> 0:18:36.040 then and then bears are running in on third and 0:18:36.080 --> 0:18:39.400 four to you know, Dave Montgomery. So I mean, I mean, 0:18:39.440 --> 0:18:42.240 I mean the offense isn't very fun to watch. I mean, 0:18:42.240 --> 0:18:44.720 the defense is getting older. I mean, we traded away 0:18:44.760 --> 0:18:48.320 Khalil Mack and you know Roquan Smith. You know, the 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:51.480 the defensive guys are at their prime. Now, you know 0:18:51.560 --> 0:18:53.920 you saw off mac ro Quan Smith is not as dominant. 0:18:54.119 --> 0:18:56.399 I think with that, you know, the cod Cody Parky 0:18:56.480 --> 0:19:00.200 kick and you know, we add we had everything they're 0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:03.639 except for the QB Patrick Mahomes and and it just 0:19:03.640 --> 0:19:05.760 didn't fall. But I think if we picked Patrick Holmes 0:19:05.920 --> 0:19:07.720 or Deshaun Watson, we would have won the Super Bowl 0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:12.080 that year. We had the offense, we had the defense. Okay, fair, fair, 0:19:12.200 --> 0:19:15.520 all right, Now we got the home crowd stuff out 0:19:15.520 --> 0:19:17.280 of the way. You guys know that, you know, your 0:19:17.320 --> 0:19:19.800 first jobs in the business are undoubtedly not going to 0:19:19.840 --> 0:19:23.280 be where your favorite teams are located, right because one 0:19:23.280 --> 0:19:24.760 of the things that we've learned this week is that 0:19:24.800 --> 0:19:26.800 you take a job whenever wherever you get in, it'll 0:19:26.840 --> 0:19:28.920 probably be in a smaller city, smaller market, some of 0:19:28.960 --> 0:19:30.720 the things we talked about. So what we wanted you 0:19:30.760 --> 0:19:32.520 to do. One of the challenges that you had this 0:19:32.560 --> 0:19:36.200 week is to cover a team that you're not used 0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:39.040 to cover it. Hello, New England Patriots. All Right. The 0:19:39.359 --> 0:19:42.760 question that I gave your group what young player or 0:19:42.840 --> 0:19:47.919 players could rise in surprise with playing time this season. 0:19:48.000 --> 0:19:51.439 So we're talking rookie, second year young pros that haven't 0:19:51.480 --> 0:19:53.480 had the playing time in New England if they've been 0:19:53.520 --> 0:19:57.640 here before that you think are in position to actually 0:19:57.640 --> 0:20:00.280 get playing time and maybe even play a significant active 0:20:00.320 --> 0:20:02.360 this year. Do you want to start Alex? All right? 0:20:02.400 --> 0:20:05.080 I'll start with the one of the rookies coming into 0:20:05.119 --> 0:20:09.280 this season. It's the Patriots first round pick this last draft, 0:20:09.680 --> 0:20:12.159 and that would be Cole Strange, the guard from the 0:20:12.200 --> 0:20:16.359 Tennessee the University of Tennessee, Chattanooga. Okay, so some stuff 0:20:16.359 --> 0:20:18.800 that I've seen it from him, he is actually projected 0:20:18.840 --> 0:20:21.320 to be starting for the Patriots in twenty twenty two. 0:20:21.600 --> 0:20:23.640 So even though he might have been an unpopular pick, 0:20:23.760 --> 0:20:26.560 he's actually filling a need for them, and it's just 0:20:26.680 --> 0:20:30.280 it's really just helping them win the battle in the trenches, 0:20:31.160 --> 0:20:33.800 which is really big obviously for any football team that's 0:20:33.800 --> 0:20:37.480 trying to win big games. Yeah, he's twenty three years old. 0:20:37.680 --> 0:20:39.879 He stands at six foot four. He's three hundred and 0:20:39.920 --> 0:20:42.320 seven pounds, so he's a good size for an offensive 0:20:42.359 --> 0:20:46.640 lineman and he's relatively young. Yeah. He actually I got 0:20:46.680 --> 0:20:48.760 some stats from the combine. He had a forty yard 0:20:48.800 --> 0:20:51.840 dash time of five h three, which is actually much 0:20:51.880 --> 0:20:54.840 better than the average left guard time, which is an 0:20:54.920 --> 0:20:58.160 that's a very good time for a big dunes. Yeah, 0:20:58.240 --> 0:21:00.520 that is. That's a I have a comparison about him 0:21:00.560 --> 0:21:03.040 to another guard that I saw had a great forty 0:21:03.040 --> 0:21:05.480 time as well that I feel like he could potentially 0:21:05.480 --> 0:21:08.399 live up to be a player similar to him. But 0:21:08.800 --> 0:21:11.400 one of the downsides about Strange is he had only 0:21:11.440 --> 0:21:13.959 thirty one bench reps at the combine, which is on 0:21:14.000 --> 0:21:17.359 the lower end for a lineman. But he's still a 0:21:17.400 --> 0:21:20.240 good weight and I feel like watching him, he's pretty 0:21:20.320 --> 0:21:23.399 light on his feet. I like I like how he 0:21:23.440 --> 0:21:27.000 always looks for his blocks, so even when he's unengaged, 0:21:27.040 --> 0:21:29.879 he's a guard, he's being pulled as the guard he 0:21:29.920 --> 0:21:32.040 could still he's still looking for blocks, he's still trying 0:21:32.040 --> 0:21:35.159 to get latterly and to block the blitzers. And I 0:21:35.240 --> 0:21:38.160 still I like to I like how whenever I'm watching him, 0:21:38.200 --> 0:21:40.600 I can see that he is able to block blitzer. 0:21:40.720 --> 0:21:43.040 So if he's being pulled in a situation like that, 0:21:43.080 --> 0:21:47.000 he can latterly block very well, which is not very 0:21:47.000 --> 0:21:49.520 common for a guard. And I feel like he really 0:21:49.560 --> 0:21:52.520 does that well. And so I think that one of 0:21:52.520 --> 0:21:54.720 the last things that I want to say about Strange 0:21:54.800 --> 0:21:57.560 is he actually reminds me a little bit of Larry Allen, 0:21:57.720 --> 0:22:00.560 who is if anybody doesn't know, he's a really good 0:22:00.600 --> 0:22:02.520 left guard for the Cowboys and forty nine ers of 0:22:02.560 --> 0:22:05.880 the past. And I feel like the agility of Strange, 0:22:06.080 --> 0:22:08.520 and it's above average forty time, is actually very similar 0:22:08.560 --> 0:22:11.680 to Larry Allen, and like Alan, Strange will be able 0:22:11.680 --> 0:22:15.520 to block more consistent consistently in a zone run plays 0:22:15.840 --> 0:22:19.639 where he can use his athletics athleticism to set up 0:22:19.640 --> 0:22:21.760 blocks for his running backs. I don't even know what 0:22:21.800 --> 0:22:23.400 to I don't even knew where to go from here. 0:22:23.400 --> 0:22:25.040 I mean, you know, maybe I should just bow out 0:22:25.040 --> 0:22:28.480 and let Alex host the Shyer replacement. John. Yeah, right right. 0:22:28.560 --> 0:22:30.879 I just said that earlier, didn't I good job research, 0:22:31.119 --> 0:22:33.679 Thank you, good job of research. Real. I love the 0:22:33.720 --> 0:22:35.840 comparison to Larry Allen, though, I mean, I you know, 0:22:36.240 --> 0:22:39.480 I think that should give you know, fans a chance 0:22:39.480 --> 0:22:42.640 to sort of picture how you think Cole might end 0:22:42.680 --> 0:22:44.560 up becoming. If he could become Larry Allen, who was 0:22:44.560 --> 0:22:46.800 a Pro Bowl, All Pro caliber player, then I think 0:22:46.840 --> 0:22:49.440 the Patriots would be in really good shape. And one 0:22:49.440 --> 0:22:51.359 of the things that we've talked about, you know, since 0:22:51.359 --> 0:22:53.399 the draft over the last couple of months, is the 0:22:53.440 --> 0:22:57.920 fact that, look, the Patriots traditionally, like when they draft 0:22:57.960 --> 0:23:00.280 a plug and play, they find guys that they know 0:23:00.359 --> 0:23:03.320 they can play right away. So it's not fancy, they 0:23:03.359 --> 0:23:06.200 don't get you know, they don't go for the hot name. 0:23:06.240 --> 0:23:07.560 They go for a guy that they know they can 0:23:07.600 --> 0:23:09.639 depend upon to be in the starting line from day one. 0:23:09.680 --> 0:23:12.399 And so we said with Cole Stranger's pick, that is 0:23:12.440 --> 0:23:15.879 a typical Bill Belichick in New England Patriot plug and 0:23:15.920 --> 0:23:18.280 play draft pick. The guy that can come in, take 0:23:18.320 --> 0:23:21.240 the spot, hold it for ten years, you know, knock 0:23:21.320 --> 0:23:23.600 on wood right, and you know, for injuries and stuff 0:23:23.840 --> 0:23:26.679 and then keep it and develop into a you know, 0:23:26.720 --> 0:23:29.280 an all pro caliber player. Sounds to me like, you know, 0:23:30.080 --> 0:23:32.600 he's got the chance, although I will admit I'm not 0:23:32.640 --> 0:23:37.000 sure why. Maybe his lack of I don't want to 0:23:37.000 --> 0:23:38.560 say a lack of strength. The dude could you know, 0:23:38.920 --> 0:23:41.359 bench press all of us together all at once. But 0:23:41.440 --> 0:23:43.600 all I'm saying is with the thirty one reps, maybe 0:23:43.640 --> 0:23:46.480 that's just because of his quickness. Yes, yeah, I feel 0:23:46.480 --> 0:23:49.440 like he really excels in one area and the thirty 0:23:49.480 --> 0:23:51.880 one reps. It's not like it's just it's not like 0:23:51.920 --> 0:23:55.719 it's a huge downfall for him. He really excels in 0:23:55.720 --> 0:23:57.880 one area and he's not losing much in the other. 0:23:57.920 --> 0:24:00.520 So I feel like this is definitely a typical Patriots 0:24:00.560 --> 0:24:02.720 pick right here. Yeah, agreed with you, John, Who do 0:24:02.760 --> 0:24:04.199 you who else? Do you think you got somebody in 0:24:04.240 --> 0:24:07.720 mind that you're thinking Mike to actually show up and 0:24:07.760 --> 0:24:11.600 get some PT this year? Definitely? So I think, um, 0:24:12.240 --> 0:24:14.040 yep is your Mike even on yeah there you go. 0:24:14.080 --> 0:24:15.920 Oh you were trying to call farlier? Okay, now it's 0:24:15.920 --> 0:24:20.600 on go so uh yeah, definitely, So I think, Um, 0:24:20.680 --> 0:24:24.800 I personally think Sam Roberts a defensive end. Uh. You know, 0:24:24.960 --> 0:24:29.320 he came from Northwest Missouri State. Um, he's twenty four 0:24:29.400 --> 0:24:32.600 years old. Uh and he had six and half sacks 0:24:32.720 --> 0:24:36.560 last year in college. Um and I know like that. 0:24:36.960 --> 0:24:40.480 Currently in the starting defensive ends the Patriot star Teacher 0:24:40.680 --> 0:24:44.360 Wise Junior and Hen Andrew Anderson, but neither of them 0:24:44.400 --> 0:24:48.920 had more than three sacks last season. Uh. Sam Roberts 0:24:48.920 --> 0:24:53.960 had like eighteen for loss at Northwest Missouri State, you know, 0:24:54.000 --> 0:24:58.760 which is like the eight best be in Beercrat history. Um. 0:24:58.800 --> 0:25:02.080 You know. I think another upside of playing Roberts as 0:25:02.200 --> 0:25:06.000 his movement for his size is very good for a rookie. Yeah, 0:25:06.000 --> 0:25:08.680 and so that's why I can I definitely I think 0:25:08.680 --> 0:25:12.200 he would be a surprise for friends with playing time 0:25:12.200 --> 0:25:15.480 in twenty twenty two, Robert's sixth round draft pick. Uh 0:25:16.000 --> 0:25:19.360 see six five, two ninety five. Right, Yeah, okay, excellent. 0:25:19.400 --> 0:25:22.639 Now here's a guy though, as a Division two player 0:25:23.880 --> 0:25:26.000 that probably comes in with a little bit of the 0:25:26.359 --> 0:25:29.840 spyglass on anyway, But the Patriots have had a very 0:25:29.840 --> 0:25:32.520 successful Division to play over the last couple of years, 0:25:33.000 --> 0:25:35.280 where I don't think anybody should be surprised that they 0:25:35.359 --> 0:25:39.360 took him right. So in this regard, this could be 0:25:39.760 --> 0:25:43.640 an opportunity again for a smaller school player to kind 0:25:43.640 --> 0:25:45.520 of get his name known right and get his action 0:25:45.560 --> 0:25:48.240 known right. Okay, good stuff, all right, Michael, who you got? 0:25:48.280 --> 0:25:51.040 Who do you like? As far as a potential newbie 0:25:51.080 --> 0:25:53.440 getting a playing time. I have a QB kind of 0:25:53.480 --> 0:25:56.760 from another smaller school from He's a rookie from Western Michigan. 0:25:56.760 --> 0:25:59.600 It's Bailey's app He was selected in the fourth round. 0:26:00.160 --> 0:26:03.520 And uh, and and in Western Kentucky he played actually 0:26:03.520 --> 0:26:06.240 really good. He led the nation in yards he had. 0:26:06.520 --> 0:26:09.720 He led it in yards by one thousand, ninety five 0:26:09.800 --> 0:26:12.840 yards and touchdowns he led by fifteen. The second most 0:26:12.960 --> 0:26:15.960 was Bryce Sound from Alabama. And uh. In twenty twenty 0:26:15.960 --> 0:26:18.640 one he had a completion presnage of sixty nine point five. 0:26:19.000 --> 0:26:22.400 That's really good. And and now you know, people will say, 0:26:22.440 --> 0:26:26.280 you know, uh, you know, Western Kentucky isn't isn't isn't great. 0:26:26.320 --> 0:26:28.840 You know, it's not like you know, you know, Western 0:26:28.960 --> 0:26:31.160 Kentucky to the NFL will be a big, big move. 0:26:31.200 --> 0:26:33.360 And it is. But like when he played an applex 0:26:33.440 --> 0:26:35.280 in state last year in a bowl game, he had 0:26:35.320 --> 0:26:38.120 four hundred twenty two yards and appleach date isn't that 0:26:38.200 --> 0:26:40.760 bad of a program. And he broke the FS single 0:26:40.800 --> 0:26:45.360 season records that I said, right, and Bailey's apps. He 0:26:45.520 --> 0:26:49.840 has good actressy on short immedia throws. He throws a 0:26:49.840 --> 0:26:52.359 good deep ball. He's a good thrower, went on moving 0:26:52.400 --> 0:26:57.560 out of the pocket. Uh not not not a great athlete, 0:26:57.600 --> 0:27:01.399 you know, like Patrick or Lamar Jackson. But but he 0:27:01.440 --> 0:27:04.600 could run and not and I think he could very 0:27:04.600 --> 0:27:06.960 easily beat out Hoyer for the backup job behind macab 0:27:07.119 --> 0:27:08.960 I think eventually I'm going to agree with you on 0:27:09.040 --> 0:27:11.919 that one. But here's the thing. We won't see we 0:27:11.960 --> 0:27:15.120 won't see his happy until well, we'll see him probably 0:27:15.160 --> 0:27:18.320 in the preseason, and then if we see him at 0:27:18.359 --> 0:27:23.080 all during the regular season, something is going horribly wrong. Yeah. Right, 0:27:23.800 --> 0:27:26.840 So that's why I'm saying, Okay, that's a good observation, 0:27:26.920 --> 0:27:30.800 and you're right. I thought he was outstanding at Western Kentucky. 0:27:30.840 --> 0:27:33.959 I became aware of him at Appalachian, then he transferred 0:27:34.160 --> 0:27:36.960 in Western Kentucky. I think I saw him play last 0:27:37.000 --> 0:27:38.400 year and turn remember the game I saw on TV. 0:27:38.480 --> 0:27:42.080 I think it was Texas San Antonio was a Conference 0:27:42.240 --> 0:27:44.399 USA title game. I think and he threw for like 0:27:44.960 --> 0:27:48.440 seven hundred yards something astronomical in the game, and I'm thinking, Wow, 0:27:48.440 --> 0:27:50.040 if you're ever looking for a guy, and I didn't 0:27:50.040 --> 0:27:51.399 even think about it, but if you were looking for 0:27:51.480 --> 0:27:53.159 a guy that can get it down the field, this 0:27:53.200 --> 0:27:55.680 guy looks like he can. Yeah, and then lo and 0:27:55.760 --> 0:27:59.480 behold they end up drafted him. So will he show, Well, 0:27:59.520 --> 0:28:01.600 he'll have to show in the preseason, I would imagine, 0:28:01.600 --> 0:28:06.000 although I can't imagine that Mac wouldn't get uh significant 0:28:06.119 --> 0:28:08.920 you know, first quarter or first half snaps at least 0:28:08.920 --> 0:28:10.560 in a couple of those games, because let's face it, 0:28:10.880 --> 0:28:12.800 he's going through his first training camp as a starter. 0:28:12.880 --> 0:28:15.960 He's only been around for a year, so Zappy is 0:28:16.000 --> 0:28:19.880 only going to be a project. Yeah, and I agree 0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:21.639 with you. I think at some point in time they 0:28:21.680 --> 0:28:24.760 do feel like he could move into the potential backup roll. Yeah, yeah, 0:28:24.880 --> 0:28:28.600 all right, eight five five pats five hundred. Sean's in 0:28:28.680 --> 0:28:31.880 Vancouver wants to join the conversation. Hey Sean, how's it going. 0:28:32.920 --> 0:28:35.159 Hey John, good to speak with you again. Have you 0:28:35.200 --> 0:28:38.360 been you two? Man? It's all good. I'm just I'm 0:28:38.360 --> 0:28:41.680 just I'm just glad it started, you know. Yeah, Yeah, 0:28:41.800 --> 0:28:44.360 we've been waiting for this. So the four topics, I'm 0:28:44.360 --> 0:28:45.960 going to go to them quickly because I wanted to 0:28:45.960 --> 0:28:49.200 bring up something you kind of alluded to something earlier. Yeah, 0:28:49.400 --> 0:28:52.360 on the secondary, I think we're going to see a 0:28:52.360 --> 0:28:58.800 lot of safety play and I'm gonna kind of give 0:28:58.920 --> 0:29:01.280 way to little but Deuce was saying in terms of 0:29:01.320 --> 0:29:04.520 the corners and Terrence Mitchell might actually be one of 0:29:04.560 --> 0:29:08.080 the starters with Mills. Well, we'll see a lot of 0:29:08.200 --> 0:29:11.400 rotation within that and hopefully so you're not Jonathan Jones, 0:29:11.400 --> 0:29:13.360 so you're not thinking Malcolm Butler is going to figure 0:29:13.360 --> 0:29:15.880 into this thing at all. No, he could be there. 0:29:15.920 --> 0:29:18.600 I'm not saying he's going to get cut, but well, 0:29:18.600 --> 0:29:20.520 we'll see. You know what I like about Mitchell is 0:29:20.560 --> 0:29:24.000 he's got that that kind of fight where he's always 0:29:24.000 --> 0:29:27.040 been down and he's always seemed to come back. So 0:29:27.920 --> 0:29:32.680 even though he didn't necessarily have the innate, innate skills 0:29:32.720 --> 0:29:36.200 that some other players have, he has that drive. So 0:29:36.440 --> 0:29:39.160 I kind of like that, and probably Butler might have 0:29:39.280 --> 0:29:41.400 that as well since he's been away for a year. 0:29:41.480 --> 0:29:43.680 Maybe he wants I'll see how hungry he is, right right, 0:29:43.920 --> 0:29:48.000 that's true, But I'm not ruling anybody out. It's kind 0:29:48.000 --> 0:29:50.479 of a mystery anyway, right, So we'll see what happened. 0:29:50.760 --> 0:29:54.240 And linebackers Bentley, I imagine we'll be there every first 0:29:54.240 --> 0:29:56.680 and second down. He's going to be a stable but 0:29:56.800 --> 0:30:00.600 I don't know if he counts the edge guys linebackers 0:30:00.600 --> 0:30:03.120 because Judon is going to play every down, so they'll 0:30:03.160 --> 0:30:05.200 be there if he's a linebacker or not. But you 0:30:05.240 --> 0:30:07.520 need someone on the other side. So if he who emerges, 0:30:07.840 --> 0:30:10.040 if it's going to be Kirkins, who's going to be Chas, 0:30:10.560 --> 0:30:12.719 you know, someone has to come up and be able 0:30:12.760 --> 0:30:14.400 to set the edge on the other side. Maybe they'll 0:30:14.640 --> 0:30:19.880 they'll bring back someone like uh the guy went to 0:30:19.920 --> 0:30:25.400 Detroit has been mentioned as a free agent. Yeah, I 0:30:25.560 --> 0:30:28.840 can for some of the names, but just left the team. 0:30:28.840 --> 0:30:32.640 Are you are you talking about Jamie Collins? No, no, no, Um, 0:30:32.680 --> 0:30:36.640 he's with the Patriots before and showed some pass Russian flowers. 0:30:36.720 --> 0:30:40.760 Oh yeah, okay, yeah yeah yeah yeah tree Flowers. Yeah. 0:30:41.040 --> 0:30:43.880 Young players that could be on the rise. I think 0:30:43.880 --> 0:30:48.760 he Pierre strong with if we don't see James White 0:30:48.800 --> 0:30:52.720 come back, if he if he can't recover, I think 0:30:52.480 --> 0:30:56.680 he could fight for that third down spot with Montgomery, 0:30:56.720 --> 0:31:00.160 So we'll see what happens with with Pierre strong Rum. 0:31:00.400 --> 0:31:02.520 And there's another young player I want to talk about that. 0:31:02.560 --> 0:31:04.320 I'm going to get to that in a second. Okay, 0:31:04.680 --> 0:31:08.120 I'll just get your fourth topic. Does really matter about 0:31:08.120 --> 0:31:12.080 play calling? Yes and no. I think play calling is important, 0:31:12.120 --> 0:31:14.520 But I think the Patriots have the best head coach 0:31:14.600 --> 0:31:16.840 of all time, and he's going to be able to 0:31:16.880 --> 0:31:22.960 help things be pretty well coached. I mean they're gonna 0:31:23.200 --> 0:31:25.280 change things. I think, make things a little simpler, so 0:31:25.320 --> 0:31:28.120 it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out how 0:31:28.160 --> 0:31:30.440 to call offensive plays. And I think there's been a 0:31:30.480 --> 0:31:32.440 little bit too much made of this. I hear way 0:31:32.440 --> 0:31:36.040 more about the Patriots play calling and troubles a coaching 0:31:36.080 --> 0:31:39.760 than I do, say Miami, who has a rookie head coach. 0:31:40.240 --> 0:31:42.200 I'd rather be in our situation with the best head 0:31:42.200 --> 0:31:46.480 coach in the world than than a new question market 0:31:46.520 --> 0:31:50.600 head coaching, even if you do have someone who's may 0:31:50.600 --> 0:31:53.520 be considered I think yeah, I just I think Sean. 0:31:53.600 --> 0:31:56.320 I think Sean. Too many people are getting, you know, 0:31:56.400 --> 0:31:58.400 all high and tight on this, and I don't think 0:31:58.400 --> 0:32:00.600 there's any I don't think there's any need for it. Look, 0:32:00.800 --> 0:32:03.840 I have to admit, like everybody else, it's strange because 0:32:03.880 --> 0:32:06.320 it's just nobody's done it before. But I mean, then again, 0:32:06.680 --> 0:32:09.720 this is the Patriots, this is Bill Belichick, and you 0:32:09.760 --> 0:32:12.880 know they've never done things by the book. When is 0:32:12.880 --> 0:32:15.200 the When have the Patriots done things by the book? 0:32:15.800 --> 0:32:19.800 So yeah, kind of they author the book. So I mean, 0:32:20.000 --> 0:32:21.680 you know, let's let's look at it this way. If 0:32:21.680 --> 0:32:24.160 the Patriots have any kind of success at all, don't 0:32:24.160 --> 0:32:27.360 be surprised as the other teams follow that model, you know, 0:32:27.400 --> 0:32:29.280 and decide, you know, hey, well, first of all, we 0:32:29.640 --> 0:32:32.840 don't want to be known as running team, passing team, 0:32:32.920 --> 0:32:34.600 throwing team, you know what. We don't want to be 0:32:34.680 --> 0:32:36.640 known as that. We want to keep the other team's guessing. 0:32:36.920 --> 0:32:39.200 And look, the fact is is that in this day 0:32:39.240 --> 0:32:41.720 and age, anybody can get anything, you know, off of 0:32:41.760 --> 0:32:43.960 the net. They share film, they share tape, they share it, 0:32:44.000 --> 0:32:46.320 you know, the all twenty twos. I mean, everybody knows 0:32:46.360 --> 0:32:49.120 what everybody's gonna call. So this is not rocket science 0:32:49.160 --> 0:32:51.959 that we're dealing with here. You try to look at 0:32:51.960 --> 0:32:54.160 coaches who might you know, have a tendency to call 0:32:54.240 --> 0:32:58.000 certain plays in certain situations. And that's really about it. 0:32:58.360 --> 0:33:03.280 Nobody really knows what Matt Patricia is gonna call, or 0:33:03.320 --> 0:33:06.000 what Joe Judge you're gonna call, or who anybody's gonna call, 0:33:06.240 --> 0:33:09.760 or Belichick, right, or even Bill Belichick, So why would 0:33:09.800 --> 0:33:13.120 we tell them. That's just kind of how I've always 0:33:13.160 --> 0:33:16.600 looked at it. Yeah, for sure. And talking about books, 0:33:16.840 --> 0:33:18.920 I've talked about this last month. The book that I 0:33:19.360 --> 0:33:22.520 really think every Patriots banner or anybody who has an 0:33:22.520 --> 0:33:24.840 interest in football should read. It's The Dynasty by Jeff 0:33:24.840 --> 0:33:28.360 Benedict Yea, and that really says a lot about crafts, 0:33:28.520 --> 0:33:30.200 you know, being in the Hall of Fame. Of course, 0:33:30.600 --> 0:33:36.120 this dynasty is all about three people. Mostly, It's Robert Kraft, 0:33:36.160 --> 0:33:39.520 Bill Belichick, and Tom Brady and yeah and then no one. Yeah, 0:33:39.560 --> 0:33:41.760 they don't exist without each other. No, that's true. Together 0:33:42.320 --> 0:33:45.920 the three of them as as as an entity, our way, 0:33:45.960 --> 0:33:48.200 you know, the group is stronger than the individual. And 0:33:48.240 --> 0:33:51.040 I don't think any one of those three wouldn't necessarily 0:33:51.080 --> 0:33:53.800 disagree with that. And that includes Tom with all due respect. 0:33:54.200 --> 0:33:56.160 You know, we love Tom for what he did here, 0:33:56.200 --> 0:33:59.480 you know, over his time, and that will never go away. 0:33:59.520 --> 0:34:01.400 It's a part of the history books. You know, mister 0:34:01.480 --> 0:34:03.800 Craft and coach Belichick are still here and they're trying 0:34:03.800 --> 0:34:06.480 to rebuild to get back to that level. And I'm 0:34:06.520 --> 0:34:08.640 certainly not going to doubt them for doing it. We'll 0:34:08.840 --> 0:34:10.759 we'll find out soon enough. And if they don't, then 0:34:10.800 --> 0:34:13.279 guess what, somebody else will step in and do it, 0:34:13.600 --> 0:34:17.000 because that's the nature of the business, right And you know, 0:34:17.360 --> 0:34:21.160 with Bob Kraft, you just find out how selfless he 0:34:21.280 --> 0:34:23.600 was and how much health he was not just the 0:34:23.640 --> 0:34:26.200 Patriots but to the NFL. He's just instrumental in making 0:34:26.200 --> 0:34:29.000 this a huge success in terms of seeing a giant 0:34:29.040 --> 0:34:31.359 industry right now. The thing I want to get to, yeah, 0:34:31.680 --> 0:34:36.200 in regard to the future of this team this season 0:34:36.360 --> 0:34:39.480 is is what went right and what went wrong last year? 0:34:39.520 --> 0:34:43.720 With the passing game. Last year, the Patriots were really good. 0:34:44.080 --> 0:34:46.640 You know, facing zone, they were able to get the 0:34:46.640 --> 0:34:50.279 ball out quickly, Um read that right away, and and 0:34:50.280 --> 0:34:53.640 and receivers who ran the right routes and even at 0:34:53.640 --> 0:34:56.279 tight ends the boat hunter Henry that ran the right 0:34:56.360 --> 0:34:58.800 route and it got to the ball and that was successful. 0:34:58.960 --> 0:35:00.880 But what teams adjusted to do, especially if they had 0:35:00.880 --> 0:35:04.480 good corners as playing man and with the type of 0:35:04.600 --> 0:35:06.719 players of Patriots had last years. They didn't have the 0:35:06.800 --> 0:35:10.680 speed to get away from man coverage, and that's when 0:35:11.239 --> 0:35:15.160 pressure got to Matt Jones and they had more sacks 0:35:15.200 --> 0:35:17.839 that way. And and when third and long they were terrible. 0:35:17.880 --> 0:35:20.439 Even though they were great when they were in short 0:35:20.520 --> 0:35:22.920 yardage was probably best in the NFL. When it was 0:35:23.000 --> 0:35:26.160 third and nine or more, they were laughed. So they 0:35:26.200 --> 0:35:29.960 need they really emphasized that speed. And that's why Thornton, 0:35:30.040 --> 0:35:33.360 like you mentioned, had a good camp today. He needs 0:35:33.400 --> 0:35:35.520 to be the difference because they need to open up 0:35:36.239 --> 0:35:39.120 a defense is to make sure they're not playing man. 0:35:39.160 --> 0:35:41.200 They have to beat them deep and say, hey, you 0:35:41.239 --> 0:35:43.520 want to do this, We're gonna We're gonna get by you. 0:35:43.600 --> 0:35:47.760 And that will make a huge jump for Mac joneson 0:35:47.840 --> 0:35:50.320 year two. I'm with you on Thornton. Did you guys 0:35:51.160 --> 0:35:54.440 consider Taekwon Thornton at all in your thought process about 0:35:54.440 --> 0:35:56.880 a rookie that might be able to stand out And 0:35:57.280 --> 0:35:59.680 if so, what did you think about his ability to 0:35:59.719 --> 0:36:02.560 stay or even to excel on the field. Michael, did 0:36:02.600 --> 0:36:07.040 you have him? Uh? Yeah, Tae Kwon fifty fiftieth pick 0:36:07.239 --> 0:36:12.399 he Uh. I like his run blocking right, Uh? He's 0:36:12.440 --> 0:36:15.719 a slightly built guy too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, six three 0:36:16.080 --> 0:36:20.080 eighty three so he's tall, uh, I mean four two 0:36:20.160 --> 0:36:23.000 he ran a four two. He's fast. I mean speed 0:36:23.000 --> 0:36:24.640 and height is going for him. For the NFL, you 0:36:24.640 --> 0:36:27.279 have to be tall and fast. He has that. I mean, 0:36:27.360 --> 0:36:29.840 rhys Me have a Tyreek Hill. You know, good hands. 0:36:30.040 --> 0:36:32.279 You know, he's fast, he's tall. If he can be 0:36:33.760 --> 0:36:35.839 a half of the speed of Tyreek Hill, I think 0:36:35.840 --> 0:36:39.000 we'd all be thrilled. Yeah. Right, And like route running 0:36:39.080 --> 0:36:41.160 is good, like Keenan Allen, you know, route running is good. 0:36:41.200 --> 0:36:42.800 So everything is there for him, I think to be 0:36:42.840 --> 0:36:45.799 at least, you know, a starter somewhere down the road. Yeah, 0:36:45.840 --> 0:36:47.440 I would agree with it. By the way, I'm kind 0:36:47.440 --> 0:36:50.640 of I've been a kind of in the Thornton corner. 0:36:50.680 --> 0:36:52.799 Even though the Patriots took him, it's kind of like, 0:36:52.800 --> 0:36:54.560 why are they taking him here? But they can say 0:36:54.560 --> 0:36:56.680 that about almost anybody the Patriots took this year in 0:36:56.680 --> 0:36:59.399 the draft, right Sean, So you know, hey, they gotta 0:36:59.400 --> 0:37:00.920 get they gotta get out there and prove it at 0:37:00.960 --> 0:37:02.960 some point. And yeah, I think he's got a shot too, 0:37:03.200 --> 0:37:06.480 got a shot another another player that I really hope 0:37:06.560 --> 0:37:09.480 and it looks like he might come in and make 0:37:09.600 --> 0:37:12.560 an impact. Was last year's rookie Trey Nixon. And if 0:37:12.560 --> 0:37:16.640 he can actually be the next Welker or Edelman in 0:37:16.719 --> 0:37:20.160 the spot and be someone who gets open quickly, that's 0:37:20.200 --> 0:37:22.880 going to be such a huge help. So I'm really 0:37:23.440 --> 0:37:26.399 seeing what happened with him, and maybe that can make 0:37:26.719 --> 0:37:32.799 Myers and you know Born just more perimeter. Guys. Yeah, 0:37:32.840 --> 0:37:35.160 Bill's already talked about Trey so and he did that, 0:37:35.520 --> 0:37:37.480 you know, through the rookie camp and through the OTAs 0:37:37.520 --> 0:37:40.000 as well. So yeah, I'm anxious to see what he 0:37:40.000 --> 0:37:41.840 can do and what he gets his shot you know, 0:37:41.920 --> 0:37:45.000 to uh, you know catch you know, darts from the 0:37:45.000 --> 0:37:47.200 other end during preseason. You know, what does he do 0:37:47.280 --> 0:37:49.920 with it? My guess is is he'll have to probably 0:37:49.920 --> 0:37:52.880 do significantly just in order to uh, you know, to 0:37:52.920 --> 0:37:54.960 solidify his spot on the roster. I'd like to see 0:37:55.040 --> 0:37:57.719 him have a shot at that for sure. All Right, 0:37:57.719 --> 0:37:59.759 it's great talking to you again, John Sean. Thanks man, 0:38:00.000 --> 0:38:02.560 I appreciate you. Yeah, I appreciate you as always. Eight 0:38:02.600 --> 0:38:08.239 five five pats five hundred, eight five five pats five hundred. Guys, 0:38:08.280 --> 0:38:10.840 it's a really good start. Wait to go Okay, second 0:38:10.880 --> 0:38:12.879 time out, We're gonna roll team number two in here. 0:38:13.000 --> 0:38:15.160 What are we talking about next? Defensive backfield? Is that 0:38:15.239 --> 0:38:18.919 what you guys had? Yeah, corner? Who's going to play 0:38:18.960 --> 0:38:22.400 in the backfield? We don't. I mean, there's a lot 0:38:22.440 --> 0:38:25.320 of question marks, but that may be the single biggest 0:38:25.440 --> 0:38:29.319 question mark for this team this season. 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Global claim based on open signal independent 0:40:55.040 --> 0:40:58.200 analysis twenty five times analysis by WHO Clubs B test intelligence. 0:40:58.280 --> 0:41:05.800 Date in Q two twenty twenty. This is Patriot's Playbook 0:41:05.880 --> 0:41:11.359 Elected Welcome back into the Playbook. It is the July edition. 0:41:11.600 --> 0:41:15.839 Opening day of training camp here at Gillette Stadium in Foxborough. 0:41:16.440 --> 0:41:20.000 Patriots got their first days in. Didn't seem to be 0:41:20.239 --> 0:41:23.719 any huge issues one way or the other. There was 0:41:23.800 --> 0:41:26.520 some good play out there, and I'm sure there was 0:41:26.520 --> 0:41:28.759 a lot of things that which Belichick would talk about 0:41:28.800 --> 0:41:30.879 and largely would say, yeah, well, you know, it's first 0:41:30.960 --> 0:41:32.400 day of training camp. We need to work on it, 0:41:32.520 --> 0:41:34.560 and yeah, and then that's what they're gonna do. The 0:41:34.800 --> 0:41:36.879 breaking news that we had to open the program today 0:41:36.880 --> 0:41:40.759 if you're just joining us, mister Kraft Robert Kraft nominated 0:41:41.000 --> 0:41:42.880 as a finalist for the Pro Football Hall of Fame 0:41:42.920 --> 0:41:46.040 class at twenty twenty three, which is also pretty cool. 0:41:46.360 --> 0:41:51.800 I got an email here from Alex in Pentucket, Rhode Island, 0:41:51.840 --> 0:41:53.680 which is kind of cool. He said, like to chime 0:41:53.760 --> 0:41:55.880 in with some answers for a question or two and 0:41:55.960 --> 0:41:58.120 then ask a question for you. The answers he said 0:41:58.120 --> 0:42:01.480 on the young Player, our last group of dean sportscasters 0:42:01.520 --> 0:42:03.719 that were studying that. He says, we need to see 0:42:04.320 --> 0:42:09.160 Josh Uch, also Ray Kwon McMillan, any cornerback the defense 0:42:09.280 --> 0:42:10.680 needs to show up. And then he says, does it 0:42:10.800 --> 0:42:13.080 matter as far as the play callers? It could have 0:42:13.160 --> 0:42:15.800 an effect on the overall ability to adjust at times, 0:42:15.840 --> 0:42:17.279 but I think the players are going to be the 0:42:17.400 --> 0:42:21.279 same or similar and Mac needs to execute. And then 0:42:21.320 --> 0:42:24.000 his question how big of a factor does the unknown 0:42:24.160 --> 0:42:27.799 nature of the defense play into how the season goes, 0:42:28.560 --> 0:42:30.520 I think the defense is going to have some serious 0:42:30.640 --> 0:42:34.799 growing pains. Could be the reason the team loses shootouts. 0:42:35.719 --> 0:42:37.800 Interesting question. I might just kind of pose that to 0:42:37.880 --> 0:42:40.440 the guys that are jumping in right now. My second 0:42:40.520 --> 0:42:44.760 group of dean sports broadcasters here, I've got James, Nick, Jack, 0:42:45.040 --> 0:42:47.680 and Aiden. So, James, why don't you start introduce yourself 0:42:48.040 --> 0:42:51.239 and where you're from? All right? I'm James Day. I'm 0:42:51.320 --> 0:42:56.719 from Hamilton, Massachusetts. Finally somebody from Massachusetts. Great, all right, 0:42:57.160 --> 0:43:00.919 go I'm Nick Bourne. I'm from mary Macknew Hampshire, MC, Newhampshire. Okay, 0:43:00.960 --> 0:43:03.560 well you're in New England at least. All right we're starting. Okay, 0:43:03.680 --> 0:43:07.400 go Jack, Hi, I'm Jack Pine. I'm from Warwick, Rhode Island. Warwick, 0:43:07.520 --> 0:43:09.440 Rhode Island. How did I not know that you were 0:43:09.480 --> 0:43:12.640 a roadie guy? Must have just slipped through the cracks, 0:43:12.760 --> 0:43:14.880 I must have. Okay, what high school do you go to? 0:43:15.440 --> 0:43:17.960 High school? Pilgrim? All right, very good, very good. Aiden, 0:43:18.360 --> 0:43:21.880 I'm Aiden Mbar. I'm from New York, Long Island specifically, 0:43:21.960 --> 0:43:24.000 and yeah, that's it. Are you Giants fan or jetson? 0:43:24.040 --> 0:43:25.520 I'm a Giants fan. I grew up in the city, 0:43:25.560 --> 0:43:27.799 you went to games all the time. Okay, that's fair. 0:43:28.640 --> 0:43:30.640 No bragging over the two Super Bowls where you kicked 0:43:30.640 --> 0:43:33.120 the Patriots bucks, Okay, yeah, it's I mean it was 0:43:33.120 --> 0:43:36.920 all luck too. Oh see, say we finally have it 0:43:37.040 --> 0:43:39.080 from an expert. It was all luck that the Giants won, 0:43:39.239 --> 0:43:43.000 Right it was, and David Tyree had velcrow on his helmet. Right, yeah, 0:43:43.080 --> 0:43:45.919 I would say something similar. At least it's you can't 0:43:45.960 --> 0:43:50.040 credit it to Eli. Let's just say that it's Oh God, Aiden, 0:43:50.080 --> 0:43:52.759 I knew I liked you already. Okay, that's a good job, 0:43:52.800 --> 0:43:54.880 all right. So hey, um, what do you guys think 0:43:54.920 --> 0:43:56.439 of the question? Let's just start with that one before 0:43:56.480 --> 0:43:58.840 we get into the cornerback issue, all right, But the 0:43:58.960 --> 0:44:01.800 question was how big of a factor does the unknown 0:44:01.920 --> 0:44:04.920 nature of the defense, which the cornerback question March I 0:44:05.000 --> 0:44:07.200 think are playing into this, right because we don't know 0:44:07.280 --> 0:44:08.560 who's going to be out there, But how big of 0:44:08.600 --> 0:44:11.400 a nature does that play into how this entire season 0:44:11.560 --> 0:44:14.239 goes to make any sense to you guys? On that one? 0:44:14.360 --> 0:44:16.040 I mean, how big of a factor is it going 0:44:16.080 --> 0:44:20.040 to be? Does the defense need to be able to 0:44:20.080 --> 0:44:21.719 stop somebody to get off of the field. I mean, 0:44:21.760 --> 0:44:22.920 I would tell you that then you'd be able to 0:44:22.920 --> 0:44:25.080 stop the buffal of Bills at least once they can 0:44:25.160 --> 0:44:29.080 punt like once, right, Yeah, what do you think I mean? 0:44:29.239 --> 0:44:31.600 At the end of the day, defense is well, wins championships, 0:44:31.920 --> 0:44:34.440 and if the Patriots want any shot at end of 0:44:34.480 --> 0:44:37.520 the postseason, maybe even fighting the Bills again for a 0:44:37.600 --> 0:44:42.080 division championship. That's where it starts. Defense wins championships, end 0:44:42.120 --> 0:44:45.239 of story. Really okay, well, defense definitely wins them. But 0:44:45.360 --> 0:44:47.400 I think most fans today would probably say, you know, 0:44:47.760 --> 0:44:50.640 offense is you know, as long as you've got a 0:44:50.680 --> 0:44:52.800 team that can outscore the other team, you're in good shape, 0:44:52.840 --> 0:44:54.840 no question. So you know, it's a little it's a 0:44:54.840 --> 0:44:58.399 little different. I think football has evolved in the era 0:44:58.560 --> 0:45:01.160 of you know, throwing spread all defenses, five wides, all 0:45:01.200 --> 0:45:02.839 that kind of stuff, to the point where defense has 0:45:02.920 --> 0:45:08.759 largely been shall we say, deemphasized. Yeah, but I think 0:45:08.920 --> 0:45:11.719 I think good offense can beat good defense on any 0:45:11.760 --> 0:45:14.239 given day, especially with the way quarterbacks have changed their 0:45:14.280 --> 0:45:17.480 game and evolved into today's game. You see Patrick Mahomes 0:45:17.520 --> 0:45:19.719 and Josh Allen airing the ball out sixty plus yards 0:45:19.800 --> 0:45:23.080 down the field, and when you have receivers like Tyreek 0:45:23.160 --> 0:45:25.560 Hill or you know, for Patriots fans, you gonna have 0:45:25.640 --> 0:45:27.799 Taykewon Thornton, one of the fastest receivers in the league 0:45:27.840 --> 0:45:31.520 just coming out of college. Yeah, DeVante Parker as well. 0:45:31.960 --> 0:45:34.800 I mean, not many defensive backs can keep up with it, 0:45:34.880 --> 0:45:36.960 no matter who it is. And if you have someone 0:45:36.960 --> 0:45:39.080 who can air the ball out sixty yards down field, 0:45:39.120 --> 0:45:41.920 two of those receivers, there's no way that you can 0:45:42.080 --> 0:45:45.680 beat that. And so that's what the saying comes where 0:45:45.800 --> 0:45:48.799 defense wins championships. But I think defensive win championships if 0:45:48.800 --> 0:45:53.400 you could pressure the quarterback, and especially in New England 0:45:53.440 --> 0:45:56.040 where you have Mac Jones, who you see, like Tom 0:45:56.080 --> 0:45:58.359 Brady wasn't the best athlete, but he was always able 0:45:58.400 --> 0:46:01.239 to avoid pressure in mac Jones hasn't proven that to 0:46:01.360 --> 0:46:04.400 be his best strength yet, and I think that if 0:46:04.440 --> 0:46:06.719 he can improve on that, and then maybe you could 0:46:06.760 --> 0:46:09.759 say that the defense can get better and they could 0:46:09.800 --> 0:46:11.319 go through their growing pains and they could still win 0:46:11.400 --> 0:46:13.800 games and fight the Bills for a division championship. But 0:46:13.880 --> 0:46:16.440 I think for now, you have to watch that defense 0:46:16.560 --> 0:46:18.719 grow and you have to see what happens with who 0:46:18.800 --> 0:46:21.440 calls place for that defense and you know who's coaching 0:46:21.480 --> 0:46:24.160 these units because as and we know how proven Bill 0:46:24.239 --> 0:46:27.360 Belichick is, we can't really say what the defense is 0:46:27.400 --> 0:46:29.640 going to do, especially with these unproven guys. You know, 0:46:29.800 --> 0:46:32.640 Jalen Mills who had a rough rookie year. You have 0:46:32.800 --> 0:46:35.640 Jonathan Jones who was injured last year. You have Sean 0:46:35.719 --> 0:46:38.560 Wade who didn't really get to play much, Terrence Mitchell 0:46:38.560 --> 0:46:40.840 who also didn't get to play much last year. And 0:46:41.200 --> 0:46:43.000 you know, these are your guys that are getting first 0:46:43.000 --> 0:46:46.279 team reps today in training camp and so far it's 0:46:46.320 --> 0:46:48.360 been going well from what we heard today, but you 0:46:48.440 --> 0:46:51.120 never know what's going to happen three four weeks into 0:46:51.200 --> 0:46:54.000 preseason and you know, heading into those first couple matchups 0:46:54.040 --> 0:46:56.800 in the regular season. Okay, really well done because you 0:46:56.840 --> 0:46:59.000 allow me to take a selfie while we're in here 0:46:59.080 --> 0:47:01.520 with you guys talking and everything. So that was really good. Aiden. 0:47:01.760 --> 0:47:03.880 I mean, we'll flip the switch on it. You can go, 0:47:04.040 --> 0:47:06.080 and then when I flip the switch down, you can stop. 0:47:06.320 --> 0:47:09.280 That's great, Well done, all right, So any other thoughts 0:47:09.600 --> 0:47:12.320 about the question that was brought up about you know, 0:47:12.719 --> 0:47:15.880 having young players are having you know, the corners in particular, 0:47:16.000 --> 0:47:18.279 maybe having an overall effect on the Defensebody just want 0:47:18.320 --> 0:47:21.160 to try that one. Yeah, you know, I think especially 0:47:21.239 --> 0:47:24.200 with how the like there's no certain lineup set for 0:47:24.400 --> 0:47:26.480 Week one, I think that that can help the Patriots 0:47:27.160 --> 0:47:29.880 because early in the season, people won't know who their 0:47:29.960 --> 0:47:32.840 defense will match up with. So I think the uncertainty 0:47:32.920 --> 0:47:34.759 can play to an advantage. But it all depends on 0:47:35.160 --> 0:47:37.799 how good the secondary ends up coming out of camp 0:47:37.960 --> 0:47:41.279 right right, And especially with dudes like Jalen Mills and 0:47:41.600 --> 0:47:44.200 Kyle Dugger who have both played safety and corner, right, 0:47:44.280 --> 0:47:46.960 it's kind of finding a defined role before they can 0:47:47.200 --> 0:47:48.879 get into the season. All right, Well, let's jump into 0:47:48.920 --> 0:47:50.959 that now, because I mean, clearly, you know, the question 0:47:51.000 --> 0:47:52.919 of the day that we wanted you guys to tackle 0:47:53.080 --> 0:47:55.560 was who's ultimately going to play in the defensive backfield, 0:47:55.719 --> 0:47:59.560 especially at corner. So James, I'll lead off with you here. 0:47:59.600 --> 0:48:02.040 What do you think in terms of the personnel, who's 0:48:02.160 --> 0:48:04.440 likely to stand out maybe be there when the regular 0:48:04.480 --> 0:48:07.440 season starts. Well, I feel like one person that will 0:48:07.440 --> 0:48:10.400 definitely start. I feel like, um, Malcolm Butler will definitely 0:48:10.440 --> 0:48:13.640 step up. You know, they brought him back after letting 0:48:13.719 --> 0:48:16.560 him go a few years ago. You know, he had 0:48:16.640 --> 0:48:19.120 that huge play in the Super Bowl a few years 0:48:19.200 --> 0:48:22.919 back that really was synonymous with him. And he's looked 0:48:24.160 --> 0:48:27.000 pretty good so far in training camp. You know, he 0:48:27.480 --> 0:48:29.920 made a few plays, but then after he did give 0:48:30.000 --> 0:48:33.759 up a fifty yard touchdown that Mac Jones threw. But overall, 0:48:34.080 --> 0:48:36.640 they've said he's done a pretty good job and I'm 0:48:36.719 --> 0:48:38.440 looking forward to seeing what he can do. And I 0:48:38.480 --> 0:48:40.600 feel like he will definitely play a huge role, especially 0:48:41.120 --> 0:48:45.279 as a veteran, being a leader to these younger guys. Oh, 0:48:45.680 --> 0:48:47.480 I was gonna I was gonna interject, and I was 0:48:47.480 --> 0:48:49.200 gonna let you finish, but I'll go ahead and interject. 0:48:49.480 --> 0:48:51.560 Guy's been out of football for a year. How big 0:48:51.600 --> 0:48:54.120 of a factor is that going to be? Well, it'll 0:48:54.160 --> 0:48:56.680 definitely take him a little bit to get back into it, 0:48:56.800 --> 0:48:59.960 but I feel like, especially with Bill Belichick as the code, 0:49:00.080 --> 0:49:02.320 she's definitely going to be pushing him, making sure he's, 0:49:02.719 --> 0:49:06.399 you know, watching film still in the way room, getting ready, 0:49:06.520 --> 0:49:08.719 making sure he's ready for the season. And I feel 0:49:08.760 --> 0:49:11.920 like normally with veteran players, you don't see him play 0:49:11.920 --> 0:49:14.560 as much in the preseason. I'm hoping he actually plays 0:49:14.600 --> 0:49:16.839 a lot in the preseason so that he can get 0:49:16.920 --> 0:49:19.040 these reps and get you know, shake off the russ 0:49:19.160 --> 0:49:21.320 make sure he's ready to go for the season. Okay, 0:49:22.160 --> 0:49:26.160 all right, anybody else? What about another player besides Malcolm? 0:49:26.560 --> 0:49:28.960 All right, Jack? Go all right? Um, I'd probably say 0:49:29.000 --> 0:49:32.920 Jalen Mills is looking to BCB one going into this year. 0:49:34.160 --> 0:49:38.400 Tough first year overall, but he was serviceable for the 0:49:38.520 --> 0:49:41.080 large majority of the season, especially starting out, and then 0:49:41.160 --> 0:49:45.879 as it kind of wounds one down, his consistency dropped off, 0:49:46.400 --> 0:49:50.279 especially against Buffalo. He had that issue before the game 0:49:50.640 --> 0:49:53.080 where he was dancing with the rest of the secondary. 0:49:53.480 --> 0:49:56.480 And I think that he can learn from that and 0:49:57.719 --> 0:50:00.560 and probably be the leader of the group because they 0:50:00.640 --> 0:50:03.319 really need someone to grab the Mills's experiences up there, 0:50:03.400 --> 0:50:05.319 I think with butlers, and you know, that's just because 0:50:05.360 --> 0:50:08.120 where he's been around, he's been a veteran presence. I mean, 0:50:08.200 --> 0:50:12.360 what he lacks I think in maybe some overall athleticism, 0:50:12.800 --> 0:50:14.520 he's been one of those guys I think that's actually 0:50:14.600 --> 0:50:19.400 been a smart player. Yeah, I would agree. Overall, I 0:50:19.520 --> 0:50:23.640 think his intelligence really needs to translate into some leadership 0:50:24.160 --> 0:50:27.480 to the younger guys. Needs to kind of lead the 0:50:27.560 --> 0:50:30.160 pack a bit, Okay, to prevent what happened at the 0:50:30.239 --> 0:50:32.800 end of last year. Okay, all right, So we have Butler, 0:50:32.920 --> 0:50:34.759 we have Mills. Who else is going to stand out, 0:50:34.840 --> 0:50:37.200 aid and you want to try it? Yeah, Adrian Phillips 0:50:37.280 --> 0:50:39.759 for sure as a nickel cornerback. You know, maybe at 0:50:39.840 --> 0:50:42.600 some points he can move and cover something else that's 0:50:42.640 --> 0:50:45.359 strong safety if he if we need him there, also 0:50:45.400 --> 0:50:48.399 depends on your Bill Pepper's availability, but I think for now, Yeah, 0:50:48.440 --> 0:50:51.759 Peppers starting the year on the pup list. Yeah, as 0:50:51.840 --> 0:50:54.560 well as Jonathan Jones, but both of them hopefully we'll 0:50:54.600 --> 0:50:56.480 come into play a big role in that defense. Because 0:50:57.080 --> 0:50:59.160 we'll talk about your Bill Peppers later on because I 0:50:59.200 --> 0:51:00.839 do want to touch on that, as you know, I've 0:51:00.880 --> 0:51:02.360 seen him play on the Giants as well, and I 0:51:02.440 --> 0:51:04.719 have something right like to talk about there. Cool, But 0:51:05.200 --> 0:51:09.880 Adrian Phillips, I mean, very very underrated cornerback. He's a 0:51:09.920 --> 0:51:13.360 great cover quarterback and in nickel defense, which Bill Belichick 0:51:13.440 --> 0:51:15.200 does like to come out in a nickel package a lot. 0:51:15.719 --> 0:51:18.120 It will help. It will help the Patriots if he's 0:51:18.160 --> 0:51:20.640 there and he could just kind of be there and 0:51:20.800 --> 0:51:23.800 lock up whoever he can, and it's probably gonna be 0:51:23.840 --> 0:51:25.719 the second receiver. It's not gonna be a wide receiver one. 0:51:25.760 --> 0:51:27.239 I think that's where Jalen Mills is going to be, 0:51:27.280 --> 0:51:29.759 like we said, but he can honestly come in and 0:51:29.920 --> 0:51:32.960 defend passes and help out these cornerbacks who are in 0:51:33.040 --> 0:51:36.960 the slot. And we saw last year he had one 0:51:37.000 --> 0:51:39.440 of the best passer ratings on the team when it 0:51:39.520 --> 0:51:41.799 was thrown to him. You know, it was very good. 0:51:42.320 --> 0:51:44.759 He had a couple of deflections, he had foreign receptions, 0:51:44.960 --> 0:51:48.440 and that's just not the interceptions tell the story. You 0:51:48.480 --> 0:51:50.120 see a lot of guys have a lot of interceptions 0:51:50.160 --> 0:51:52.680 but don't play well. I think Adrian Phillips is the 0:51:52.760 --> 0:51:55.960 opposite of that, where you see his numbers translate into 0:51:56.000 --> 0:51:58.680 good play as well. Okay, very good, Nick, you got 0:51:58.760 --> 0:52:02.120 one that figure in besides the guys that we've mentioned. Yeah, 0:52:02.160 --> 0:52:04.680 I think once Jonathan Jones is healthy, he'll be the 0:52:04.880 --> 0:52:07.000 number one slot. Yeah. I agree with that, by the one, 0:52:07.040 --> 0:52:09.839 because he has the size to cover big tight ends yep, 0:52:10.280 --> 0:52:13.680 and pretty sizable receivers like I mean, Julio Jones comes 0:52:13.680 --> 0:52:16.160 to mind because he's six four, So anyone who's a 0:52:16.160 --> 0:52:18.239 bigger receiver I think he'll cover. Hey, wait, what did 0:52:18.239 --> 0:52:20.160 you guys think about Julio Jones signing with the Bucks? 0:52:20.239 --> 0:52:22.600 You saw that right? Yeah, he wants a ring ring 0:52:22.760 --> 0:52:29.040 chasing Yeah, cheap contract one year week. I mean that's 0:52:29.080 --> 0:52:30.480 no guarantee. By the way, you know they have a 0:52:30.520 --> 0:52:33.879 forty five year old guy quarterback, right, some guys get 0:52:33.880 --> 0:52:36.759 a bit of experience. That's wait, that's like older than me. Yeah, 0:52:37.200 --> 0:52:40.200 getting there. I'm sorry, Nick, I jumped down on you. 0:52:40.520 --> 0:52:43.359 Go ahead. Uh. Yeah, So I think Jonathan Jones really 0:52:43.400 --> 0:52:46.359 struggled with consistency when he played. Yep, So I think 0:52:46.719 --> 0:52:49.759 taking time to rehab because he's still on the pup list. Ye, 0:52:50.040 --> 0:52:52.279 I think he shouldn't play until he's one hundred percent 0:52:52.360 --> 0:52:54.520 so he can kind of work on his game before 0:52:54.600 --> 0:52:58.879 he forces himself back onto the field. Okay, fair enough. Uh. 0:52:59.480 --> 0:53:01.680 Claire sent me an email. She said, I called, but 0:53:01.719 --> 0:53:04.040 the call cut out. Now I can't get through. I'm sorry. 0:53:04.040 --> 0:53:05.680 I was hoping to talk to you guys today just 0:53:05.840 --> 0:53:07.520 to touch on what I was going to say. The 0:53:07.600 --> 0:53:09.640 linebacker corps is going to be so different to what 0:53:09.760 --> 0:53:13.960 we're used to as all youth and barely any veteran presence. Now, 0:53:14.200 --> 0:53:16.320 which we are going to touch on here shortly. With 0:53:16.480 --> 0:53:18.640 the quarterback. I think a lot depends on how Malcolm 0:53:18.640 --> 0:53:21.640 Butler starts out as the example for the draftees of 0:53:21.840 --> 0:53:24.920 Marcus and Jack Jones, or if he doesn't even start. 0:53:25.440 --> 0:53:27.560 And then she said there's a lot of safeties on 0:53:27.640 --> 0:53:31.080 this roster that may reflect over into the season depending 0:53:31.120 --> 0:53:33.600 upon how injuries move into the regular season. That's Claire 0:53:33.719 --> 0:53:35.560 in the UK. Guys, what do you think about the 0:53:35.600 --> 0:53:37.799 two young guys and Marcus and Jack Jones. I think 0:53:37.840 --> 0:53:39.839 that Marcus and Mac Jones, Um, they are pretty good 0:53:39.880 --> 0:53:43.440 pickups in the draft. Marcus Jones mainly for special teams reasons. 0:53:43.920 --> 0:53:46.880 He can really help in the return game. Um. Jack Jones, 0:53:47.040 --> 0:53:50.719 he did pretty well in coverage. Um, let's go. I 0:53:50.760 --> 0:53:54.080 can just get his stats up here. Okay, but keep 0:53:54.160 --> 0:53:57.080 talking while you're doing. Sorry, Well, he had a seventy 0:53:57.160 --> 0:54:00.600 nine of the trade there no problem than he had 0:54:00.640 --> 0:54:03.360 a seventy nine point four overall coverage grade in twenty 0:54:03.440 --> 0:54:08.480 twenty one against defenses at Arizona State, or rather against 0:54:08.520 --> 0:54:11.120 offenses theirs in the state. Excuse me, um. He had 0:54:11.200 --> 0:54:15.400 three interceptions, three touchdowns allowed, played three hundred fifty one 0:54:15.440 --> 0:54:19.200 coverage snaps. That's courtesy of Pro Football Focus. UM. I 0:54:19.280 --> 0:54:22.879 mean Jack Jones, Um, he can play man defense. UM. 0:54:23.239 --> 0:54:26.319 I think getting him into the Belichick system is going 0:54:26.400 --> 0:54:29.440 to be great. UM. Development wise, get a few young 0:54:29.520 --> 0:54:32.880 guys in here, Marcus Jones, Um, we see a lot 0:54:32.960 --> 0:54:34.799 of guys who can return, who can also help out 0:54:34.840 --> 0:54:36.920 in the secondary. We see that. We've seen that before 0:54:36.920 --> 0:54:41.080 with Devin mccordy. But I think Jack Jones mainly will 0:54:41.080 --> 0:54:44.400 be a pretty good pickup. I hope. So. I certainly 0:54:44.480 --> 0:54:47.360 did say I'm with young corners. I have a tendency 0:54:47.400 --> 0:54:51.520 to think that, you know, frankly, they either can over 0:54:51.640 --> 0:54:53.799 inflate their worth. I think that they can burn out. 0:54:53.880 --> 0:54:55.920 I think that they could be flashing the pans. I 0:54:56.040 --> 0:54:59.120 just need to see consistency. I don't need to see personally. 0:54:59.120 --> 0:55:00.920 I don't need to see some wow me. What I 0:55:01.000 --> 0:55:03.960 want to see is just somebody be there, you know, 0:55:04.200 --> 0:55:05.920 the ability to make a play and maybe if the 0:55:05.960 --> 0:55:08.680 receiver reaches over him and makes the grab, okay, fine, 0:55:08.719 --> 0:55:11.399 but he was right there. You can't defend that play 0:55:11.480 --> 0:55:13.799 any better than that. That's what I want to see 0:55:13.840 --> 0:55:16.279 at a young guys, because so they can consistently do that, 0:55:16.880 --> 0:55:18.719 then I think they got a chance to stick in 0:55:19.120 --> 0:55:23.680 and hopefully contribute to the team. Touching on consistency, today 0:55:23.960 --> 0:55:27.720 in training camp, we saw that it was Jalen Mills, 0:55:28.600 --> 0:55:32.120 Jalen Mills, Terrence Mitchell, and Sean Wade where reportedly they 0:55:32.200 --> 0:55:37.120 consistently really good cornerbacks for the Patriots. Today they really 0:55:37.160 --> 0:55:40.080 showed a lot of consistency, and that's been the problem 0:55:40.200 --> 0:55:42.360 with a lot of guys with a lot of these 0:55:42.400 --> 0:55:44.760 guys in the past, Jalen Mills and Terrence Mitchell especially, 0:55:45.880 --> 0:55:48.080 and for guys that are fighting for roster spots like 0:55:48.280 --> 0:55:50.839 Mitchell and Wade, it's going to be important for them 0:55:51.040 --> 0:55:53.680 to really show their consistency because at the end of 0:55:53.719 --> 0:55:57.040 the day, that's what we need starting for us come 0:55:57.120 --> 0:56:01.040 week one. I mean, we don't have jac Jackson anymore, 0:56:01.040 --> 0:56:03.640 we don't have Stephan Gilmore. We really need to run 0:56:03.800 --> 0:56:08.360 a defensive back by committee approach like the running backs, 0:56:09.000 --> 0:56:11.160 which which I think is going to factor in huge. 0:56:11.200 --> 0:56:13.279 I think the Patriots are gonna run mainly in nickel 0:56:13.360 --> 0:56:16.640 defense going forward, due probably to the lack of linebacker death. 0:56:17.760 --> 0:56:21.879 Mainly nickel defense. You've definitely got the safeties, the hard 0:56:21.920 --> 0:56:24.880 hitting safeties to do the job. You've got Jabrill Peppers, 0:56:25.080 --> 0:56:28.600 you have Kyle Dugger, who in my opinion, can tackle 0:56:28.719 --> 0:56:32.400 and hit like Brandon Merriweather, but raps like Brandon Merriweather. 0:56:32.520 --> 0:56:34.600 Let's touch on Jabrill Peppers because I know Aiden wanted 0:56:34.600 --> 0:56:36.759 to talk about him, and obviously he knows him because 0:56:36.760 --> 0:56:39.640 he saw him played for his Giants. You know, if 0:56:39.719 --> 0:56:41.680 he's able to be healthy, how big of a factor 0:56:41.719 --> 0:56:44.040 does he become. If he's able to be healthy, I 0:56:44.120 --> 0:56:45.960 think he could be one of the cornerstone pieces of 0:56:46.000 --> 0:56:48.239 that defense. You saw him in his first year with 0:56:48.320 --> 0:56:50.880 the Giants. He was a Pro bowler and a lot 0:56:50.920 --> 0:56:52.359 of people thought he should have been an All Pro. 0:56:52.520 --> 0:56:55.879 He wasn't named an All Pro. And his stats, though 0:56:56.400 --> 0:56:58.279 nothing really jumps off the page. He had a sack 0:56:58.360 --> 0:57:01.800 and a half, he had one interception. You see the 0:57:01.840 --> 0:57:04.320 amount of pass deflections he had, which he was in 0:57:04.560 --> 0:57:06.920 the top five in the league at eleven pass deflections 0:57:07.040 --> 0:57:11.239 that year. And he also just he had thirty two 0:57:11.320 --> 0:57:14.160 quarterback hits in just two full seasons with the Giants. 0:57:14.280 --> 0:57:17.400 And the only issue that he really has is his durability. 0:57:17.880 --> 0:57:20.400 And you see that he's so versatile. He could play 0:57:20.440 --> 0:57:22.400 any role that any coach wants to put him in. 0:57:22.480 --> 0:57:25.520 And you saw that the Giants they didn't really have 0:57:25.640 --> 0:57:27.880 a set defense. Their defense one year that he was 0:57:27.960 --> 0:57:30.000 there was pretty awful and one year it was one 0:57:30.000 --> 0:57:32.680 of the better defenses in the league in twenty twenty 0:57:33.280 --> 0:57:36.080 and jeff Bill Peppers was a huge part of that defense. 0:57:36.120 --> 0:57:38.440 Where Week eleven they were had, they had one of 0:57:38.520 --> 0:57:42.200 the top ten defenses in the league, maybe even top five. 0:57:42.280 --> 0:57:45.440 I don't I can't exactly recall the numbers. And then 0:57:45.480 --> 0:57:47.720 he went down with injury and the Giants collapsed and 0:57:47.880 --> 0:57:50.280 ultimately missed the playoffs in the year. And we saw 0:57:50.400 --> 0:57:52.680 that was led to what happened with the injury to 0:57:52.760 --> 0:57:54.560 Jebil Peppers, and you see that if he's able to 0:57:54.600 --> 0:57:56.680 be healthy, he can be a Swiss Army knife for 0:57:56.720 --> 0:57:59.280 Bill Belichick for someone who likes to play their safeties 0:57:59.320 --> 0:58:01.360 like that. You saw Patrick Chung when he was here. 0:58:01.800 --> 0:58:04.000 He would play any role that he could. He could 0:58:04.040 --> 0:58:06.280 cover the run really well. He could also defend the 0:58:06.320 --> 0:58:08.919 pass really well, and he can help someone who gets 0:58:09.000 --> 0:58:11.160 beat over the top because of his speed and Jabill 0:58:11.200 --> 0:58:14.640 Peppers has that speed, he has that versatility, and like 0:58:15.200 --> 0:58:19.160 Jack was saying, he can hit very hard, So there's 0:58:19.240 --> 0:58:21.400 not what I think he's known for, right, Yeah, definitely 0:58:21.440 --> 0:58:23.920 good trade to have, Yeah, definitely. Yeah. And I think 0:58:24.680 --> 0:58:26.680 if he can work hard and get himself back into 0:58:26.680 --> 0:58:28.800 shape because he didn't play much in the last two years, 0:58:29.200 --> 0:58:31.960 then Jabrill Peppers could be one of those better players 0:58:32.000 --> 0:58:34.240 on that Patriots defense. And he can earn himself a 0:58:34.320 --> 0:58:37.960 big contract and resign here or go wherever because he's 0:58:38.000 --> 0:58:40.840 only here for one year nine million dollars, which isn't 0:58:40.840 --> 0:58:43.000 a huge contract, and if he plays as well, that 0:58:43.200 --> 0:58:45.520 value could be very worth the contract. All right, let's 0:58:45.560 --> 0:58:48.200 grab a call here. Brady is in Iowa. Hey Brady, 0:58:48.240 --> 0:58:51.840 you're in the playbook. Hey John, thanks for having me absolutely. 0:58:51.920 --> 0:58:54.520 What's going on today, Yeah, just a couple of things 0:58:54.640 --> 0:58:56.320 kind of wanted to touch on thinking about, you know, 0:58:56.680 --> 0:58:59.760 some of the need that we saw last year. Obviously 0:59:00.280 --> 0:59:02.600 obviously no real clear playmaker, that was a big thing. 0:59:02.680 --> 0:59:04.360 But the thing that stuck out to me even more 0:59:04.480 --> 0:59:06.560 was just the lack of speed we always had on offense, 0:59:07.200 --> 0:59:09.240 especially when we start looking around the lead in these 0:59:09.320 --> 0:59:11.560 guys you know, running running the four two. So what 0:59:11.640 --> 0:59:14.120 do we do we go out draft the fastest wide receiver, 0:59:14.240 --> 0:59:15.880 which you know, some people thought was a stretch. I 0:59:16.000 --> 0:59:19.200 really didn't think it was too much, honestly. Uh, you know, 0:59:19.280 --> 0:59:21.600 as he's going to be an immediate impact wide receiver, 0:59:21.760 --> 0:59:24.240 probably not in Taekwon Thornton, but you know, we have 0:59:24.440 --> 0:59:26.440 kind of an eat maybe not a clear number one, 0:59:26.480 --> 0:59:28.440 but a deep wide receiver room where I think we're 0:59:28.440 --> 0:59:30.000 going to see a lot of just it's gonna be 0:59:30.040 --> 0:59:32.920 interesting to see how we use those different receivers in 0:59:33.000 --> 0:59:36.160 different games, because you know, as we've seen in the past, 0:59:36.240 --> 0:59:38.320 you know, a guy might have thirty thirty snaps one 0:59:38.400 --> 0:59:40.760 game and then you know, maybe five or six of 0:59:40.760 --> 0:59:43.840 the next just based on whatever. The strategy. Is really 0:59:44.080 --> 0:59:46.560 really excited to see kind of how Taekwon Thornton gets 0:59:46.680 --> 0:59:49.920 pushed into the offense, but then obviously Peter Strong as well, 0:59:50.040 --> 0:59:52.880 especially with uncertainty with James White. You know, we got 0:59:52.960 --> 0:59:55.680 a really get one two punch with Damien Harris and 0:59:56.160 --> 0:59:58.200 Romandr Stevenson. So I think he's gonna be a great 0:59:58.240 --> 1:00:01.040 passing back U get out of the backfield, just with 1:00:01.120 --> 1:00:03.439 that speed he brings on. I know, I'm I'm looking 1:00:03.480 --> 1:00:05.720 forward to that and along those lines coming out of 1:00:05.760 --> 1:00:08.000 the backfield. I mean, depending upon you know what James 1:00:08.040 --> 1:00:11.480 White his eventual ability to play this year might be. 1:00:12.640 --> 1:00:15.040 I'm really kind of anxious in the preseason to see 1:00:15.520 --> 1:00:18.120 if a guy like Pierre Strong can can sort of 1:00:18.400 --> 1:00:21.000 fill that role. There may be some others, but I 1:00:21.120 --> 1:00:23.040 know that's why they sort of selected him in the 1:00:23.120 --> 1:00:26.280 draft anyway, thinking he could be potentially the third down 1:00:26.360 --> 1:00:29.600 back type of replacement. And so that's the one. That's 1:00:29.640 --> 1:00:31.320 a name that we haven't talked a lot about at 1:00:31.400 --> 1:00:33.200 least on this show yet, and I'm sure his name 1:00:33.240 --> 1:00:35.960 will probably come up more and more as the summer 1:00:36.040 --> 1:00:39.840 progresses here. But that's a guy I think that if 1:00:39.880 --> 1:00:41.480 you want to know how the Patriot's going to go, 1:00:41.520 --> 1:00:43.720 if this guy gets in and get some playing time, 1:00:43.800 --> 1:00:46.360 then I think that versatility on offense is going to 1:00:46.400 --> 1:00:48.240 all of a sudden pop back into place. And that's 1:00:48.480 --> 1:00:50.200 that's what I think the I think that's what this 1:00:50.320 --> 1:00:52.760 team for MC needs to have is part of that versatility, 1:00:52.800 --> 1:00:54.600 a guy like Thornton to stretch it and a guy 1:00:54.640 --> 1:00:57.360 like Strong end or White that type of player also 1:00:57.480 --> 1:01:00.520 to be available. You know, in short, a wheel route 1:01:00.520 --> 1:01:04.800 passes definitely. Yeah. I mean, I guess the thing I'll 1:01:04.840 --> 1:01:06.360 be kind of interesting to see then. I mean when 1:01:06.400 --> 1:01:07.880 we have that passing back back because we didn't have 1:01:07.960 --> 1:01:09.520 James White whole lot. You know, he hasn't been as 1:01:09.600 --> 1:01:11.880 productive or the past couple of years through would hope, 1:01:11.960 --> 1:01:14.800 but um, but it's just kind of interesting to see them. 1:01:14.840 --> 1:01:16.600 You know what we do with this two tight end situation. 1:01:16.680 --> 1:01:18.920 I'm just really you know, this offensive strategy, you know, 1:01:19.000 --> 1:01:21.080 and I think you know, the big elephant the room 1:01:21.120 --> 1:01:24.520 all offseason spent hey who's calling the plays? Obviously, and 1:01:24.600 --> 1:01:27.480 then you know, we bring Matt Patricia back in and 1:01:28.000 --> 1:01:29.520 you know, Will he'd be a guy who can call 1:01:29.640 --> 1:01:32.320 plays probab probably not on offense, but you know it's 1:01:32.360 --> 1:01:34.960 coming for as a defensive mastermind. I got to almost imagine, 1:01:35.360 --> 1:01:37.160 you know, he'd be able to put at least help 1:01:37.200 --> 1:01:39.480 put together pretty good offensive game plan week to week. 1:01:39.560 --> 1:01:42.800 Just absolutely kind of almost reminds me of um, you know, 1:01:42.920 --> 1:01:45.360 back in that it was a twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen 1:01:45.400 --> 1:01:48.280 AFC title game against Kansas City when Tony Romos on 1:01:48.360 --> 1:01:50.280 the call and the next day everybody's kind of like, 1:01:50.960 --> 1:01:52.920 did they just did Tony Romo. Just get the guy 1:01:52.960 --> 1:01:57.479 fired the defensive quarter. But I know, right right, total 1:01:57.560 --> 1:01:59.200 kind of like you know, I have that expertise on 1:01:59.360 --> 1:02:00.680 one side of the ball. It's like, oh yeah, this 1:02:00.800 --> 1:02:02.160 could be you know, this could be a run to 1:02:02.280 --> 1:02:05.400 the right, no doubt, right, absolutely, look down the sideline. 1:02:05.600 --> 1:02:07.800 He comes down, I mean, knows what's going on. So 1:02:07.880 --> 1:02:09.320 you've got to at least be able to put together 1:02:09.360 --> 1:02:14.360 a pretty good strategy. Right, Absolutely cool? Anything else, dope, 1:02:14.400 --> 1:02:17.840 go ahead, Brady, appreciate your time. Man. Guys, So we 1:02:18.200 --> 1:02:22.720 mentioned defensive backs. Who have we left out? Who's the 1:02:22.800 --> 1:02:26.480 surprise safeties? Kyle Dugger? Kyle Dugger? Yeah, I think Kyle 1:02:26.560 --> 1:02:29.280 Duggers is gonna be a great Um. Do you mind 1:02:29.320 --> 1:02:32.080 if I say something that maybe if Brady's listening, Yeah, yeah, 1:02:32.280 --> 1:02:35.640 I think you mentioned Tykwon Thornton just he said he 1:02:35.680 --> 1:02:38.240 doesn't think it's a reach. I agree. Someone I want 1:02:38.280 --> 1:02:40.600 to compare him to. This might be some people might 1:02:40.640 --> 1:02:42.800 think this is a little outlandish, but I see Courtland 1:02:42.880 --> 1:02:46.680 Sutton in him. Um, you know, both bigger receivers, Cortland 1:02:46.720 --> 1:02:50.280 Sutton being six four, two hundred and seven pounds a 1:02:50.320 --> 1:02:53.520 little heavier than Thornton, not as built, but definitely not 1:02:53.640 --> 1:02:56.360 as fast. And I think you saw how proven Courtland 1:02:56.400 --> 1:02:59.480 Sutton was his first year and then towards a clum 1:03:00.160 --> 1:03:03.840 this past year. And if you see now he's kind 1:03:03.880 --> 1:03:06.040 of come back with Russell Wilson. But let's let's switch 1:03:06.080 --> 1:03:08.960 over to Thornton. Here you have Mac Jones, who you know, 1:03:09.400 --> 1:03:12.840 also just learned this offense, spent the season in here, improved, 1:03:13.080 --> 1:03:15.360 had a great rookie year, and he's only getting better. 1:03:15.400 --> 1:03:17.280 From what we've all heard, Bill Belichick has said that, 1:03:17.600 --> 1:03:19.760 and the connection so far in training camp, from what 1:03:19.800 --> 1:03:23.720 we've heard today and in OTAs in practices that Mac 1:03:23.800 --> 1:03:26.600 Jones and Tykwon Thornton are very much on the same page. 1:03:26.960 --> 1:03:29.600 They're looking at each other a lot. And maybe he 1:03:29.720 --> 1:03:31.840 might not be that one wide receiver, but he could 1:03:31.880 --> 1:03:34.960 be that fast slot receiver that kind of resembles a 1:03:35.240 --> 1:03:38.360 Chris Hogan or a Danny Amidola, but just bigger who 1:03:38.560 --> 1:03:40.520 can go up and make a big play and catch 1:03:40.560 --> 1:03:42.960 it over a defender instead of just kill with speed 1:03:43.240 --> 1:03:47.640 like Hogan and Amidola. Very elusive. And though you might 1:03:47.680 --> 1:03:50.200 see Thornton doesn't have the same agility and he doesn't 1:03:50.240 --> 1:03:53.120 have the same ability to juke and cut back. He 1:03:53.320 --> 1:03:55.160 has the big playability and he has the speed that 1:03:55.200 --> 1:03:57.600 he can combine it with. Kind of reminds me of Sutton. 1:03:57.920 --> 1:04:01.000 I think the numbers might look similar, the usage might 1:04:01.040 --> 1:04:03.840 look similar as well. Sutton wasn't used as much until 1:04:03.880 --> 1:04:05.720 midway through his first year, and I think you could 1:04:05.720 --> 1:04:07.480 see the same way as they ease the worden into 1:04:07.520 --> 1:04:11.760 this offense. I absolutely agree with um putting him in 1:04:11.800 --> 1:04:16.760 the slot. Absolutely agree with him being elusive, and I 1:04:16.880 --> 1:04:19.960 think that also would work for him well on the outside. UM, 1:04:20.720 --> 1:04:22.520 I can sort of see an Odell Beckham type. He's 1:04:22.520 --> 1:04:24.680 a fast guy. UM, you can put him on the 1:04:24.760 --> 1:04:29.400 outside and he can just run go routes and lose 1:04:29.440 --> 1:04:31.880 the dvs and coverage. When you have that kind of speed, 1:04:32.280 --> 1:04:35.120 it's really great to have. And he you can even 1:04:35.160 --> 1:04:36.640 line him up in the slot and have him run 1:04:36.680 --> 1:04:39.000 a rub route to the outside. I mean there's a 1:04:39.040 --> 1:04:40.920 lot of potential there. You always have a lot of 1:04:40.960 --> 1:04:43.240 potential when you have speed demons like these. Yeah, and 1:04:43.320 --> 1:04:46.360 you saw it last year Tyreek Hill ran just that 1:04:46.440 --> 1:04:48.360 rub route on the row route on the outside and 1:04:48.640 --> 1:04:50.880 ranted out in the AFC Championship game against the Bills 1:04:50.880 --> 1:04:52.560 and he scored a touchdown on it, and you could 1:04:52.560 --> 1:04:55.280 see similar things with Taekwon Thornton. The speed is just 1:04:55.760 --> 1:04:58.000 electric and like you said, you know, speed is one 1:04:58.000 --> 1:04:59.800 of the most valuable traits to have in the NFL, 1:05:00.040 --> 1:05:03.160 especially as a wide receiver, and so I see where 1:05:03.160 --> 1:05:05.240 you're going with that. I like that. I just think 1:05:05.320 --> 1:05:08.560 that if he starts running on the outside, especially in 1:05:08.920 --> 1:05:11.000 these early weeks, I think it's gonna be tough for 1:05:11.080 --> 1:05:12.920 him to learn and ease into this offense. Because in 1:05:13.040 --> 1:05:15.520 Baylor you saw him often as a slot receiver and 1:05:15.680 --> 1:05:18.000 he thrived there and when he moved to the outside, 1:05:18.360 --> 1:05:21.080 it didn't go as well because his connection, his connection 1:05:21.120 --> 1:05:23.760 with this quarterback was mainly just running the same routes 1:05:23.800 --> 1:05:25.920 in the slot, where he's running post routes and corner 1:05:26.000 --> 1:05:29.800 routes and a lot of outside rug routes. And I 1:05:29.880 --> 1:05:32.280 think that if you're seeing him going on, you know, 1:05:32.520 --> 1:05:35.160 you see him move to receiver two, maybe even receiver one, 1:05:35.200 --> 1:05:37.600 depending on how he plays. You never know how any 1:05:37.640 --> 1:05:39.320 of these receive these new guys can pan out for 1:05:39.360 --> 1:05:41.280 the Patriots. I don't get caught up in a lot 1:05:41.360 --> 1:05:43.440 of the you know, he's got to be receiver one, 1:05:43.520 --> 1:05:45.200 receiver two. He's gotta be the X, he's got to 1:05:45.240 --> 1:05:47.320 be the Y. Look. I mean, I think it's pretty 1:05:47.320 --> 1:05:50.240 clear that you want a guy who can stretch a 1:05:50.320 --> 1:05:52.560 defense on the outside. You want a guy that's got 1:05:52.640 --> 1:05:54.880 some durability, I think on the inside if he's lining 1:05:54.960 --> 1:05:56.680 up a little bit closer to the quarterback. But I 1:05:56.720 --> 1:05:59.200 don't get too caught up in rolls. What I want 1:05:59.240 --> 1:06:01.480 to see is product. When the ball gets thrown your way, 1:06:01.840 --> 1:06:03.840 you get your hands on it, do you hold it 1:06:04.360 --> 1:06:07.640 regardless of the situation. That to me is what's most important. 1:06:07.640 --> 1:06:10.640 So I'm looking at you know, certainly speed and the 1:06:10.720 --> 1:06:14.120 ability to get open to create separation. But I gotta 1:06:14.240 --> 1:06:15.880 I gotta have a little stick him on the hands, 1:06:16.160 --> 1:06:18.240 whether it's manufactured or not, I gotta have a little 1:06:18.240 --> 1:06:20.320 stick him on the hand because if it gets anywhere 1:06:20.440 --> 1:06:23.200 near you, the receiver should catch it. Yeah. One guy 1:06:23.240 --> 1:06:25.640 that definitely wont have a problem with that is Jacobe Myers, Right, 1:06:26.040 --> 1:06:28.400 he's got very good hands. Now, early in his career, 1:06:28.600 --> 1:06:31.160 was he started here, we didn't think that the case. 1:06:31.200 --> 1:06:33.120 He dropped a lot of things coming his way, and 1:06:33.440 --> 1:06:35.000 you know a lot of people wanted to give up 1:06:35.040 --> 1:06:36.640 on him right away. I'm kind of glad that they 1:06:36.680 --> 1:06:40.760 didn't as Yeah, well Iglore too, That's right. I could admit. 1:06:40.800 --> 1:06:42.800 I've never been a huge fan of Nelson Aglor, but 1:06:42.840 --> 1:06:44.920 I hope that he proves me wrong. Yeah, I mean, 1:06:45.240 --> 1:06:48.040 he's always good for one good, big drop of game. 1:06:49.800 --> 1:06:52.680 I think that's been more recent. I think after he 1:06:52.800 --> 1:06:56.480 started with the Eagles, and trust me, I hated having 1:06:56.520 --> 1:06:58.440 to play against him because I know his potential and 1:06:58.720 --> 1:07:00.959 we saw him twice a year and he would always 1:07:01.040 --> 1:07:04.040 kill the Giants. He had huge games against us, and 1:07:04.160 --> 1:07:09.240 I hated to watch. I did take that personally, you know, 1:07:09.880 --> 1:07:11.680 beat us in a couple of games to set that 1:07:11.800 --> 1:07:13.560 could have sent us to the top of the division 1:07:14.280 --> 1:07:18.000 in twenty seventeen when we were having a okay year 1:07:18.280 --> 1:07:21.760 and then when the division was terrible. If we finished 1:07:21.800 --> 1:07:23.960 six and ten that year, we would have won. And 1:07:24.080 --> 1:07:26.760 Nelson Agiler dropped the pass against the U it was 1:07:27.240 --> 1:07:32.120 now the Washington Commanders, and then they took out their 1:07:32.160 --> 1:07:35.080 starting quarterback and that was Nelson Agiler's fault. And I 1:07:35.160 --> 1:07:37.480 hated that and I didn't like him. But I think 1:07:37.560 --> 1:07:39.960 now he started, he came to the Raiders, he got 1:07:40.040 --> 1:07:42.600 into play with Derek Carr, who obviously was a better 1:07:42.840 --> 1:07:44.960 quarterback than whoever the Eagles had at that time, which 1:07:45.000 --> 1:07:48.160 was Nick Foles, Jalen Hurts, Carson Wentz. It was that tandem. 1:07:48.760 --> 1:07:51.680 And I think that now you're seeing him improved his 1:07:51.840 --> 1:07:55.480 play as he improved with better quarterback play, because obviously 1:07:55.560 --> 1:07:57.920 you have better quarterbacks throwing the ball. They're more accurate. 1:07:58.280 --> 1:08:00.520 And though you still can say he has one big 1:08:00.600 --> 1:08:02.880 drop of game, I think it's less consistent as it 1:08:03.040 --> 1:08:05.640 was before. And you saw him come up huge for 1:08:05.720 --> 1:08:08.720 the Raiders at times, catching big touchdowns, creating himself a 1:08:08.760 --> 1:08:10.600 lot of separation. And you could see that here in 1:08:10.640 --> 1:08:14.280 New England already fifty yard touchdown passed with Matt from 1:08:14.280 --> 1:08:16.840 Mac Jones, and you see they're on the same page. 1:08:17.240 --> 1:08:19.479 And you see it when you're not having a quarterback 1:08:19.520 --> 1:08:21.519 who's having years like what Carson Wentz was doing in 1:08:21.560 --> 1:08:25.120 twenty nineteen or twenty twenty, you're having quarterbacks who are 1:08:25.400 --> 1:08:28.400 top top half quarterbacks in the league. You have better 1:08:28.520 --> 1:08:31.160 ride receiver play, and obviously he's one of those guys 1:08:31.240 --> 1:08:34.560 that directly translates to it. Right, these guys great or 1:08:34.600 --> 1:08:37.040 what I mean, they're absolutely pounding it out here. Right, thing, 1:08:37.160 --> 1:08:38.640 I'm just gonna step out of the way and let 1:08:38.680 --> 1:08:41.280 him go. Let's take another time out. We're gonna talk 1:08:41.320 --> 1:08:45.040 about linebackers next, right, Yeah, we got the linebacking coure 1:08:45.120 --> 1:08:46.880 coming to nex because we're not sure. We're kind of 1:08:46.920 --> 1:08:49.400 like defensive backs. We're not really sure who's gonna be 1:08:49.520 --> 1:08:51.599 playing in front of these defensive backs here. It could 1:08:51.640 --> 1:08:54.880 be any kind of combination in terms of linebackers for 1:08:54.960 --> 1:08:57.920 this Pagers team this year. So our next Dean College 1:08:57.960 --> 1:09:01.479 group will talk about the lineback corps. The phone lines 1:09:01.520 --> 1:09:05.439 are open eight five five, pats five hundred, pick it up, call, 1:09:06.080 --> 1:09:08.639 let's go in the playbook. Want to get into the game? 1:09:08.920 --> 1:09:12.280 Get coached up at Dean College. 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Of course, if 1:12:00.520 --> 1:12:02.960 you missed any portion of the program earlier, hey, it'll 1:12:02.960 --> 1:12:05.599 be available on a podcast to give it about sixty 1:12:05.640 --> 1:12:07.559 seconds or so to rewind, and then it'll be back 1:12:07.640 --> 1:12:09.479 up again on the website and you can hit up 1:12:09.520 --> 1:12:12.080 the podcast. So a lot of different things going on here. 1:12:12.160 --> 1:12:14.280 Just to sort of recap for a couple of moments though, 1:12:14.320 --> 1:12:17.200 but really what happened in day one of training camp today, 1:12:17.240 --> 1:12:20.120 because if you're tuning in late, that's probably the first 1:12:20.160 --> 1:12:22.000 question that's on your mind. I mean, what the heck 1:12:22.280 --> 1:12:25.320 happened today? Matt Patricia did the play calling, whether or 1:12:25.320 --> 1:12:27.800 not that means anything to you or not, but he 1:12:28.120 --> 1:12:30.280 was in charge of the play calling. It appeared through 1:12:30.320 --> 1:12:32.759 the eleven and eleven and the seven and seven drills, 1:12:33.400 --> 1:12:36.880 and our next group of student broadcasters coming through will 1:12:36.880 --> 1:12:39.400 actually be talking a little bit about that group after 1:12:39.439 --> 1:12:41.960 this next one, of course, so doesn't really matter about 1:12:41.960 --> 1:12:45.799 who calls the plays. The next subject that we're tackling 1:12:45.840 --> 1:12:48.400 you today. Four big question for the Patriots. We've already 1:12:48.400 --> 1:12:51.720 talked about young players that could rise in surprise with 1:12:51.760 --> 1:12:53.920 the team this year. We've talked a little about who's 1:12:53.960 --> 1:12:57.240 going to play in the defensive backfield, perhaps even at corner, 1:12:57.320 --> 1:12:59.840 who might be the starters, And now we've got to 1:13:00.160 --> 1:13:03.519 turn to the linebacking corps because the linebackers, look, they're 1:13:03.640 --> 1:13:07.960 part of stopping teams, they're a part of making plays. 1:13:08.120 --> 1:13:09.960 They have to be a part of that. And we 1:13:10.080 --> 1:13:12.920 know last year that at times the Patriots and yeah, 1:13:12.960 --> 1:13:14.840 look we can't let the defensive line out of this 1:13:14.920 --> 1:13:17.840 as well, but we know that the Patriots defensively struggled 1:13:18.040 --> 1:13:22.680 stopping the run, especially in certain situations, and against the 1:13:22.720 --> 1:13:26.560 Bills we never got him off the field. So the 1:13:26.720 --> 1:13:30.479 issue now is linebacking corps because there are clearly some 1:13:30.680 --> 1:13:33.960 changes other than Jawan Bentley in the middle, where else 1:13:34.000 --> 1:13:36.680 does everybody play? Does Matt june On lineup at the end? 1:13:36.720 --> 1:13:39.240 Does he lineup a as an defensive end at for three? 1:13:39.320 --> 1:13:40.840 Does he line up at the end as the three four? 1:13:40.960 --> 1:13:43.439 What does he do? How does he attack? How does 1:13:43.479 --> 1:13:46.599 he get after the quarterback? And can he consistently get 1:13:46.640 --> 1:13:48.519 after the quarterback like he did through the first eight 1:13:48.640 --> 1:13:51.600 ten weeks of last season before he tailed off at 1:13:51.640 --> 1:13:54.360 the end of last season. All right again, our next 1:13:54.720 --> 1:13:59.040 group of broadcasters here again coming from our Dean College 1:14:00.000 --> 1:14:02.679 Sports Broadcasting camp. Whof you will our pre college summer 1:14:02.760 --> 1:14:06.400 program going on this week at Dean and nearby Franklin, Massachusetts. 1:14:06.520 --> 1:14:09.160 I've got Brody, I've got Aaron, I've got Jonah, and 1:14:09.240 --> 1:14:11.040 I've got Alex. So Brodie, why don't you start to 1:14:11.080 --> 1:14:13.360 introduce yourself and tell us where you're from. I'm Brody 1:14:13.439 --> 1:14:16.439 Going and I'm from Hopedale, Mass Hopedale, Mass All right. 1:14:16.880 --> 1:14:19.320 I'm Aaron Buckley and I'm also from Hopedale, Mass. You 1:14:19.360 --> 1:14:21.280 guys go to school together. Yeah, we've known each other 1:14:21.360 --> 1:14:25.400 for a long time, since we were kids. I'm sorry, sorry, 1:14:27.840 --> 1:14:31.519 I'm joking. All right, Okay, go Um, what's what's up? Guys? 1:14:31.520 --> 1:14:35.479 As Jonah shockta here? Um from from Miami, Florida, Miami. 1:14:35.560 --> 1:14:38.680 Why did you come up here for this? From Miami? Oh? 1:14:38.760 --> 1:14:40.920 You know, in a source broacast, I've been doing it 1:14:41.240 --> 1:14:44.320 since my freshman year. Um didn't have the best of 1:14:44.400 --> 1:14:47.200 introductions into him, but got into pretty quickly and now 1:14:47.280 --> 1:14:50.360 currently the sports anchor at my school, in fact permanently outstanding. 1:14:50.479 --> 1:14:54.439 So are you a Dolphins fan? That's hard at the 1:14:54.479 --> 1:14:56.680 same I mean, last year I wasn't. Um. I was 1:14:57.120 --> 1:14:59.120 sorry all my Miami guys who are out there, UM 1:14:59.240 --> 1:15:02.439 for I'm sorry for me on the bandwagon. But um, 1:15:02.560 --> 1:15:04.680 last year was pretty much tied to the Rams and 1:15:04.880 --> 1:15:07.920 the Chiefs. UM. I had quite the addiction of my homes, 1:15:07.960 --> 1:15:11.280 which I now found out is kind of didn't We 1:15:11.439 --> 1:15:14.200 didn't really like it, um after seeing how he played 1:15:14.200 --> 1:15:17.000 in the playoffs. But Uma, with the Rams, I always 1:15:17.040 --> 1:15:18.680 knew that I was gonna they We're gonna do it, 1:15:18.760 --> 1:15:22.800 you know, Van Jefferson, Aaron Donald Stafford. You know, I 1:15:23.080 --> 1:15:24.479 knew there was a good group there that would at 1:15:24.520 --> 1:15:25.840 least make it all right. So at least you know 1:15:25.960 --> 1:15:27.800 how to pick a winner. All right. Alex, my name 1:15:27.840 --> 1:15:30.240 is Alex mc greeta and I'm from Atlanta, Georgia, Atlanta. 1:15:30.560 --> 1:15:32.920 So we get to Miami and Atlanta. Did you fly 1:15:33.040 --> 1:15:35.280 up from Atlanta for this? I did, in particular. Yeah, 1:15:35.479 --> 1:15:38.320 So why did you want to do this? Um? I 1:15:38.360 --> 1:15:40.760 wanted to do this because I've really been interested in 1:15:40.840 --> 1:15:43.360 sports broadcasting of late and my parents reas serious and 1:15:43.400 --> 1:15:45.360 found out that Dean had a great program. So I 1:15:45.479 --> 1:15:48.240 was interested right after the bat Well, I appreciate your 1:15:48.240 --> 1:15:51.000 saying that your paychecks in the mail I was. I 1:15:51.080 --> 1:15:55.160 was exactly that same way. I appreciate that. Guys, thank you. Okay, 1:15:55.240 --> 1:15:58.120 so you're you know topic if you will, to trying 1:15:58.120 --> 1:16:00.559 to research and and so we can kind to discussed 1:16:00.560 --> 1:16:04.040 that it happens to be, um, you know the linebacking corps. 1:16:04.200 --> 1:16:07.120 Who the hecks gonna play back there, who's gonna who's 1:16:07.120 --> 1:16:09.080 gonna figure into the BIX? Who should figure into the 1:16:09.120 --> 1:16:11.880 BIX based on the personnel that they have. Anybody want 1:16:11.920 --> 1:16:13.840 to offer any thoughts to start off right? Brodyn think 1:16:13.880 --> 1:16:15.679 I can say this for all of the New England 1:16:15.680 --> 1:16:18.600 sports fans out there, that Matt Judon is going to 1:16:18.640 --> 1:16:21.080 be the top guy for us. He had twelve and 1:16:21.120 --> 1:16:25.040 a half sacks last season, sixty tackles, one fumble recovery. 1:16:25.560 --> 1:16:27.680 He actually in the third game this season against the 1:16:27.680 --> 1:16:30.360 Saints where we lost thirteen to twenty six, he had 1:16:30.400 --> 1:16:32.920 two and a half sacks. And he also liked the league. 1:16:33.840 --> 1:16:35.439 Sorry he didn't lead the league, but he was seventh 1:16:35.520 --> 1:16:37.360 in the league with sacks, and I also think that 1:16:37.400 --> 1:16:39.639 he could be a leader for the team on defense. 1:16:39.720 --> 1:16:41.560 He's he's a veteran, he's been in the league for 1:16:41.640 --> 1:16:44.719 six years. When he obvious he's drafted into twenty sixteen. 1:16:46.880 --> 1:16:49.439 I think that he gets the crowd going. We've seen 1:16:49.920 --> 1:16:52.479 he uh got with the red sleeves, gets it going. 1:16:53.280 --> 1:16:55.720 He also can give the younger players tips on the 1:16:55.800 --> 1:16:59.280 field and specialties that he has. Okay, so we think 1:16:59.360 --> 1:17:02.280 we know on it starts with him, and I think 1:17:02.320 --> 1:17:04.360 that was probably one that we can all say, Yeah, 1:17:04.439 --> 1:17:08.719 that's definitely gonna happen. Who else I got Ronnie Perkins. 1:17:09.120 --> 1:17:11.360 He was drafted in the third round two years ago, 1:17:11.439 --> 1:17:14.560 the year we got Mac and he played at Oklahoma 1:17:14.800 --> 1:17:17.839 and he was one of the better He played defensive 1:17:17.920 --> 1:17:19.400 end at Oklahoma and he was one of the better 1:17:19.479 --> 1:17:22.439 defensive ends in the Big twelve. But when the Patriots 1:17:22.520 --> 1:17:26.240 drafted him, it was planning to turn him into a linebacker, 1:17:26.640 --> 1:17:29.200 so it looks he can play outside linebacker. He missed 1:17:29.280 --> 1:17:31.400 last season due to his shoulder injury. Right, that's where 1:17:31.520 --> 1:17:35.120 fans wouldn't know the name, right. But in college, his 1:17:35.880 --> 1:17:38.799 final full season, he had thirty eight tackles in six sacks, 1:17:39.160 --> 1:17:40.920 and he had the seventh most big tackles in the 1:17:40.960 --> 1:17:44.720 Big Ten. So and then in only six games in 1:17:44.840 --> 1:17:46.960 his final college season, he had twenty three tackles in 1:17:47.040 --> 1:17:48.840 five and a half sacks. So that's almost a sack 1:17:48.880 --> 1:17:51.040 of game. So if they put him on the outside, 1:17:51.040 --> 1:17:52.800 he's gonna be able to rush the quarterback. Definitely an 1:17:52.800 --> 1:17:55.759 impact player at Oklahoma. Definitely remember that. I just nobody 1:17:55.840 --> 1:17:58.519 knows because he spent last year on I L, yeah, 1:17:58.720 --> 1:18:00.160 v L, what do you want to call it? So 1:18:00.280 --> 1:18:02.040 he just he didn't get a chance to to get 1:18:02.080 --> 1:18:03.680 any scratch. No, he's gonna have to have a good 1:18:03.760 --> 1:18:06.160 camp to earn one of those spots. Okay, who else, Jonah, 1:18:06.160 --> 1:18:08.400 who else are we talking about? Is gonna crack this lineup? Well, 1:18:08.479 --> 1:18:11.920 I've got two options here. I've I've got um Juwan Bentley, 1:18:12.080 --> 1:18:15.040 who um I've who of course was injured last season. 1:18:15.080 --> 1:18:17.280 But um, I feel I feel that he can make 1:18:17.360 --> 1:18:18.720 I feel that he can make a return. You know, 1:18:18.880 --> 1:18:22.240 um obviously, um he he only played fifteen games last season. 1:18:22.439 --> 1:18:26.240 UM engine engine in the season, um and during the 1:18:26.240 --> 1:18:30.120 wilder game against against the Bills, UM, I feel I 1:18:30.240 --> 1:18:31.880 feel that he can be I feel that he can 1:18:31.920 --> 1:18:33.760 make a good recovery. You know, that's that's the thing 1:18:33.800 --> 1:18:37.920 with all the players. UM, but UM, I feel that 1:18:37.920 --> 1:18:39.760 if he makes a good recovery, he'll he'll be able 1:18:39.800 --> 1:18:41.800 to come back and help the team out. Holling with 1:18:41.880 --> 1:18:43.600 Jude on all right, So that's affect. He's also the 1:18:43.680 --> 1:18:45.760 oldest guy on that team. He's thirty. Jude's like twenty eight. 1:18:45.840 --> 1:18:48.240 I believe. Okay, all right, was there somebody else you 1:18:48.320 --> 1:18:50.720 had too? Um? Yes, I was gonna go for mac Wilson. Um. 1:18:50.960 --> 1:18:53.840 Of course, UM trade to New England for a chase 1:18:53.880 --> 1:18:55.479 one of it, which in my opinion is quite a 1:18:55.520 --> 1:18:57.320 blow to New England because if everyone who loved one 1:18:57.360 --> 1:18:58.960 of it, she was quite a big part of that defense. 1:18:59.600 --> 1:19:03.559 But mac Wilson, of course, young guy UM played three 1:19:03.640 --> 1:19:06.840 years with the Cleveland Browns. UM obviously his best year 1:19:06.880 --> 1:19:09.880 being his rookie year, which UM, I don't I don't 1:19:09.880 --> 1:19:11.559 really find that to be too true for a lot 1:19:11.560 --> 1:19:14.519 of rookies. But UM for best years of rookie, UM 1:19:14.560 --> 1:19:17.760 he had UM eighty two tackles, which UM, for me, 1:19:18.200 --> 1:19:22.040 that's that's that's quite impressive for a guy like him. Um. 1:19:22.720 --> 1:19:25.479 He He also averaged his only career sack there um 1:19:25.960 --> 1:19:29.680 as well as UM seven seven pds, which I'm up. 1:19:30.040 --> 1:19:31.960 I'm sorry everyone out there, but I'm not fully UM. 1:19:32.800 --> 1:19:35.400 I don't pulaying all the initials of everything in football, 1:19:35.439 --> 1:19:39.080 but um, you know he's had seven pds and then 1:19:39.240 --> 1:19:43.800 UM often last season we're um, he had about UM 1:19:44.040 --> 1:19:46.800 forty two sacks, forty two forty two tackles. I'm sorry, 1:19:46.800 --> 1:19:49.640 but zero sacks. UM. Obviously that's a decrease from the 1:19:49.760 --> 1:19:52.960 from the rookie years, so it shows still still good. 1:19:53.040 --> 1:19:57.559 But um, you're about a lot a lot of UM 1:19:57.600 --> 1:19:59.439 tackles down. But UM, yeah. I think one of the 1:19:59.479 --> 1:20:01.360 things about mack Wilson that it's impressed me, and I 1:20:01.439 --> 1:20:03.080 think he's a good pick. But one of the things 1:20:03.160 --> 1:20:05.200 impressed me is that when they traded for him and 1:20:05.400 --> 1:20:07.960 Winovich was a kind of a fan favorite, as you mentioned, Jonah, 1:20:08.439 --> 1:20:11.759 but um, Wilson's got you know, he's got the building. 1:20:11.800 --> 1:20:13.320 I think he's got the speed, and I think it 1:20:13.400 --> 1:20:15.720 was one of the things that the Patriots were looking at, uh, 1:20:15.960 --> 1:20:19.840 and perhaps the ability to separate from a defender if 1:20:19.880 --> 1:20:22.000 he's going to play on the outside a linebackers spot 1:20:22.040 --> 1:20:23.799 to be able to have some effect on the quarterback. 1:20:24.400 --> 1:20:27.439 Chase Winovich's problem, if he had one, was I don't 1:20:27.479 --> 1:20:30.479 think they felt like he was disruptive enough. And I 1:20:30.560 --> 1:20:32.439 think that's what they're kind of hoping that mac Wilson 1:20:32.560 --> 1:20:34.640 ends up becoming in that regard. So I just have 1:20:34.720 --> 1:20:36.840 to be mean that they can they mean that. It 1:20:36.960 --> 1:20:39.200 just problem was probably that he didn't disrupt the up. 1:20:40.520 --> 1:20:42.880 You know, he didn't cause enough cast. Yes, that's one 1:20:42.920 --> 1:20:44.640 thing I can I can really end the point of 1:20:44.680 --> 1:20:47.400 being on the defense is to cause enough cast in 1:20:47.439 --> 1:20:50.400 the offense where they literally just break apart and it's 1:20:50.720 --> 1:20:53.000 and it's just fallen in. It's just fallen to chaos, 1:20:53.200 --> 1:20:55.600 you know, right, If that's you know, I, um, I 1:20:55.680 --> 1:20:57.320 haven't obviously haven't seen much of win of Itch, but 1:20:57.479 --> 1:21:00.360 um that that would obviously be one of problems I 1:21:00.400 --> 1:21:02.680 would agree on. Um. What I'm hoping in Wilson is like, 1:21:02.720 --> 1:21:04.800 you know, Wilson's young guy. You know, he's already had 1:21:04.840 --> 1:21:07.880 some experience in the NFL. UM obviously can tackle people. 1:21:07.960 --> 1:21:10.719 He can he can at least try to sack people. Again, 1:21:11.040 --> 1:21:13.479 of course, So what I say is, I think what 1:21:13.520 --> 1:21:15.880 I'm Belichick's hoping for with Wilson is that Wilson can 1:21:15.960 --> 1:21:18.000 at least cause a lot more cast than one of 1:21:18.080 --> 1:21:20.120 much ever cut. Well, that's what we're hoping for, all right, 1:21:20.160 --> 1:21:23.519 Alex mccam, Yeah, exactly who you got? So for me, 1:21:23.600 --> 1:21:25.479 I had Jabrill Peppers, who I know was mentioned in 1:21:25.520 --> 1:21:29.000 the last UM segment with the defensive backs, right, but um, 1:21:29.640 --> 1:21:32.519 I think that previously in Jabrill Pepper's career at Michigan 1:21:32.760 --> 1:21:35.599 he played a mix of dB and linebackers, so I think, um, 1:21:35.680 --> 1:21:37.240 he can have an impact there. He stands at five 1:21:37.320 --> 1:21:40.000 eleven two sixteen, so he's a pretty big guy. Jay's 1:21:40.040 --> 1:21:42.439 drafted by the Browns in twenty seventeen and also played 1:21:42.479 --> 1:21:44.800 for the Giants, and the Page's traded for him for 1:21:44.880 --> 1:21:47.120 early in April. And so the reason why I think 1:21:47.120 --> 1:21:49.920 he can make such an impact at linebackers one one, 1:21:50.040 --> 1:21:53.080 Like I mentioned previously, he's a pretty big guy. And um, 1:21:53.800 --> 1:21:55.640 back when he was in Michigan in twenty sixteen, he 1:21:55.680 --> 1:21:58.559 actually finished fifth in the Heisman Race as a defensive player, 1:21:58.640 --> 1:22:01.320 which is a very I mean, if that doesn't tell 1:22:01.320 --> 1:22:03.720 you enough, if that's great, sure, well I would tell 1:22:03.760 --> 1:22:07.840 you that his athleticism got him that kind of notoriety, right, 1:22:08.200 --> 1:22:09.880 And here's a guy that you know, obviously he has 1:22:09.920 --> 1:22:13.479 been known as a big hitter, and you said he 1:22:13.560 --> 1:22:16.920 went back and forth at Michigan, right, So if he's 1:22:16.920 --> 1:22:18.720 got that kind of ability, and we've already seen the 1:22:18.800 --> 1:22:20.280 Patriots do a little bit of that with a guy 1:22:20.360 --> 1:22:23.280 like Kyle Dugger. So if you've got a big safety 1:22:23.320 --> 1:22:25.479 that can also line up and play linebacker and give 1:22:25.520 --> 1:22:28.439 the run game some support, you can also do I 1:22:28.520 --> 1:22:30.840 think some things strategically where you're lining up and the 1:22:30.880 --> 1:22:33.920 other team is not sure what they're facing. So anytime 1:22:33.920 --> 1:22:35.400 you get the other team to think about a little 1:22:35.400 --> 1:22:37.280 bit more, you kind of got a you know, you 1:22:37.400 --> 1:22:38.960 kind of got a little bit of an edge there, right. 1:22:39.240 --> 1:22:41.360 I think I like his versatility or than anything else, 1:22:41.360 --> 1:22:43.160 and I think that's what the Patriots like. You know, 1:22:43.200 --> 1:22:45.880 they've been really versatile and over the last several years 1:22:46.360 --> 1:22:48.120 as far back as I can remember, in terms of 1:22:48.240 --> 1:22:50.439 the guys who play on the offensive line, but they've 1:22:50.479 --> 1:22:54.200 also stressed versatility defensively, Guys that can play any of 1:22:54.280 --> 1:22:56.880 the positions, Guys that can play corner, corners that can 1:22:56.920 --> 1:23:01.280 play safety, Safeties that can play linebacker and Peppers could 1:23:01.320 --> 1:23:02.960 be that kind of guy that they're looking for, right, 1:23:03.040 --> 1:23:06.640 I agree with you. Okay, all right, cool? What else? Well? 1:23:06.680 --> 1:23:09.160 Who where else are we missing in terms of potential 1:23:09.280 --> 1:23:13.160 players that could come in and get playing time or 1:23:13.320 --> 1:23:15.240 perhaps make a name of them. I mean, we mentioned 1:23:15.320 --> 1:23:17.280 Joan Bentley, and I think we all realized that he's 1:23:17.320 --> 1:23:21.080 sort of the mainstay in the middle. But if you're 1:23:21.439 --> 1:23:26.320 if you're also in nickel defense where you know it 1:23:26.400 --> 1:23:28.559 on an obvious passing down, are you gonna have your 1:23:28.600 --> 1:23:33.519 run thumper in the middle. No, So did this team 1:23:33.600 --> 1:23:37.280 in your estimation, did it get faster, quicker with the 1:23:37.360 --> 1:23:39.160 ability to be able to cover guys coming out of 1:23:39.160 --> 1:23:41.800 the opposing offensive backfield. Not really. They were one of 1:23:41.840 --> 1:23:44.080 the biggest issues last year with the linebacking cars, how 1:23:44.120 --> 1:23:45.880 slow they were and how they weren't able to stop 1:23:45.920 --> 1:23:48.960 any anything up the middle, pass or run. And I 1:23:49.040 --> 1:23:51.519 feel like we didn't really improve that much. Like we 1:23:51.640 --> 1:23:54.559 passed on to Kobe Dean from Georgia like three different times. 1:23:54.720 --> 1:23:56.360 That was a pick. I would have liked a scene too. 1:23:56.760 --> 1:24:00.120 And I feel like with mac Wilson he can so 1:24:01.080 --> 1:24:03.519 slow down some tight ends with the past deflection numbers. 1:24:03.560 --> 1:24:06.320 He had seven in his rookie year in Cleveland. So 1:24:06.600 --> 1:24:08.680 as he can use an outsidebe can also drop back 1:24:08.720 --> 1:24:11.200 and cover some tight ends across the middle. Excellent. Okay, 1:24:11.439 --> 1:24:13.320 all right, we'll snack a phone call here. William has 1:24:13.360 --> 1:24:15.559 been kind enough to hang on in Philly. Hey, will 1:24:15.640 --> 1:24:21.719 you're in the playbook? Is he still there? Going? Once? 1:24:22.240 --> 1:24:26.880 Going twice? William? You're still there? No? Okay, sorry, we 1:24:27.000 --> 1:24:31.320 kept John hole man. Claire back, Claire? You with us? Hey? John? 1:24:31.520 --> 1:24:36.160 Hey Claire, what's happening? Hey girl? Hey? Oh you deane folk? 1:24:37.400 --> 1:24:42.760 What's going on? I think they've done a pretty good job. 1:24:42.760 --> 1:24:46.840 What do you think, Claire? I'm really sorry John. You 1:24:46.960 --> 1:24:48.880 know how much I love you. I actually adore you. 1:24:49.200 --> 1:24:52.720 But these guys have been really good. I like that. 1:24:53.120 --> 1:24:55.320 It's good. I like that. I like it. All right? 1:24:55.320 --> 1:24:57.479 What do you got? I meant I did read your email. 1:24:57.479 --> 1:24:58.560 I don't know if you heard that or not, but 1:24:58.600 --> 1:24:59.880 I did read it. But I you know, if you 1:25:00.000 --> 1:25:01.599 you're gonna take the time to call me back from 1:25:01.720 --> 1:25:07.760 you know, um, West Midlands? Yeah, West Midlands, UK? Yeah. No, 1:25:07.840 --> 1:25:09.640 I'm not gonna throw us. Why would I ever do that? 1:25:11.360 --> 1:25:15.280 Why would I ever do that, right, So what do 1:25:15.360 --> 1:25:18.320 you think of today? What any any first impressions about 1:25:18.360 --> 1:25:20.880 what you've heard, what you've read about thus far with 1:25:21.000 --> 1:25:23.120 the first day. What are big concerns that you kind 1:25:23.120 --> 1:25:25.360 of have that maybe even stuffing that we haven't even 1:25:25.400 --> 1:25:28.200 touched on. I didn't realize you read my email, so 1:25:28.320 --> 1:25:29.720 it might have been when I was trying to kind 1:25:29.760 --> 1:25:33.040 of get through that you read my email. Yeah, apologies 1:25:33.080 --> 1:25:36.519 if I repeat anything that you've already read. Yep, you're good. 1:25:37.720 --> 1:25:40.200 The one big thing that I kind of what was 1:25:40.280 --> 1:25:42.400 taking away, like I said in my email, was how 1:25:42.680 --> 1:25:46.479 different the linebacking court is gonna look, How we're missing 1:25:46.600 --> 1:25:51.800 so much veterans, right, it's gonna look completely different. In fact, 1:25:51.840 --> 1:25:55.080 I would imagine that not only personnel wise, but strategically 1:25:55.120 --> 1:25:58.880 how they're gonna play right. All right, So, okay, you 1:25:58.960 --> 1:26:05.559 had to put around home. Oh oh hold on, hang on, Claire, 1:26:05.640 --> 1:26:07.840 now you're back again because Matt said his fat fingers 1:26:07.880 --> 1:26:12.760 accidentally put you on hold. Okay, okay, sorry, so blame 1:26:12.840 --> 1:26:18.960 the marine. He's falling out with me today. What I know, 1:26:19.240 --> 1:26:22.120 I know, right, Hey, Well the problem is is that 1:26:22.240 --> 1:26:25.760 the security for Elton, Sir Elton John have moved into 1:26:25.800 --> 1:26:28.439 the office now and they've shoot everybody away, you know, 1:26:28.840 --> 1:26:30.719 never never, never mind the fact that we're all trying 1:26:30.720 --> 1:26:34.759 to work here, but they've you know, they're they're not nice. 1:26:35.080 --> 1:26:37.800 They're not nice. I'm kinda gonna be honest. They're not nice. 1:26:38.160 --> 1:26:40.320 So you know that can that can't be true. But 1:26:40.360 --> 1:26:42.040 at the same time, you know, the tour company is 1:26:42.240 --> 1:26:44.280 least the building out from the Patriots. The Patriots least 1:26:44.320 --> 1:26:46.320 outs him, and once it's put in the contract, you 1:26:46.400 --> 1:26:48.479 know it's a dumb deal. You know, you can't only 1:26:48.560 --> 1:26:51.280 reverse anything unless you can like talk out in John 1:26:51.360 --> 1:26:54.280 Let's security seem like, look, let's let him keep this belt, 1:26:54.360 --> 1:26:56.360 let's him keep this room for now. Claire, When when 1:26:56.600 --> 1:26:58.320 Sir Elton gets back, you're gonna have to have a 1:26:58.360 --> 1:27:01.760 talk with him about this. Yeah, I don't really think 1:27:01.800 --> 1:27:05.639 he's taking my calls at the moment. What you pissed 1:27:05.680 --> 1:27:12.920 him off? What you do? All right? No? No, no. So, 1:27:13.840 --> 1:27:16.080 So you were talking about the linebackers in particular before 1:27:16.080 --> 1:27:19.360 you got put on hold. Yeah, I just think kind 1:27:19.400 --> 1:27:24.000 of last year was it was so veterans eccentric, with 1:27:24.360 --> 1:27:27.800 van Ney Higower, the return of Jamie Collins. I mean, 1:27:27.840 --> 1:27:30.880 I know they did that because they had a lax there, 1:27:31.000 --> 1:27:32.960 so they were just filling the holes that they could 1:27:33.840 --> 1:27:36.559 because they couldn't utilize the rookies that they've taken because 1:27:36.560 --> 1:27:39.400 of injury that kind of thing. So I think it's 1:27:39.479 --> 1:27:42.200 going to be we're going to see a serious difference 1:27:42.240 --> 1:27:44.320 in how they used to lize the linebacking call because 1:27:45.040 --> 1:27:48.120 they're so sort of unknown if you like. However, they've 1:27:48.200 --> 1:27:51.000 been within the system for a year, they've seen everything. 1:27:51.160 --> 1:27:54.160 Over the last year they haven't they just haven't participated. 1:27:54.240 --> 1:27:57.040 So at least they've got this year of knowledge under 1:27:57.080 --> 1:27:59.640 their bowl if they haven't got this year of physicality 1:27:59.680 --> 1:28:02.160 and about so I think that's going to help it 1:28:02.640 --> 1:28:05.760 looks better. But we're still are kind of missing the 1:28:05.960 --> 1:28:09.920 veteran MISSI linebacker. However, it's almost as if they're making 1:28:10.000 --> 1:28:13.799 up for that in the safety Now, granted this depends 1:28:13.920 --> 1:28:16.360 upon injury that kind of thing, because you've got the 1:28:16.439 --> 1:28:19.920 Gible peppers onto up that sort of thing, and you've 1:28:19.920 --> 1:28:22.519 got the return of Devon mccordy, so you've got some 1:28:23.680 --> 1:28:28.160 quite solid veteran presents there utilizing in the safety positions. 1:28:28.240 --> 1:28:30.120 I think what we're going to see is a little 1:28:30.120 --> 1:28:32.400 bit less of the linebacker, a little bit more of 1:28:32.479 --> 1:28:36.080 the extra safety to sort of compensate for that. Whilst 1:28:36.120 --> 1:28:39.559 these new Newish guys, if you like, Yeah, I think 1:28:39.680 --> 1:28:42.880 they're growing Internet system. Yeah, I think I think Aaron 1:28:42.920 --> 1:28:45.400 would agree with you in that, particularly less linebacker, more 1:28:45.479 --> 1:28:48.519 extra safety writer probably especially when you have you have 1:28:48.640 --> 1:28:51.919 like four solid safeties and Dugger and mccordy and Phillips 1:28:52.000 --> 1:28:54.760 and to Bill Peppers if they put them there. Yep, yep, 1:28:54.960 --> 1:28:57.360 pretty good observation, I would I would agree. I just 1:28:57.439 --> 1:29:00.639 think if you've got guys that can hit and can cover, 1:29:01.000 --> 1:29:03.240 why wouldn't they be in the lineup, especially when you're 1:29:03.240 --> 1:29:05.200 facing some of the teams, some of the quarterbacks, some 1:29:05.240 --> 1:29:06.800 of the backs that you're going to have to face, right, 1:29:07.680 --> 1:29:12.760 M Yeah, okay, what else you got? What else have 1:29:12.880 --> 1:29:17.639 I grof? That's a very good pat Okay. I think 1:29:17.920 --> 1:29:20.960 the cornerback position I think I touched on that. I 1:29:21.000 --> 1:29:22.479 mean you might as well. Actually, I think how it's 1:29:22.479 --> 1:29:27.200 going to really be dependent upon how, if and when 1:29:27.479 --> 1:29:30.240 they use Malcolm Butler. I think that's to me that 1:29:30.280 --> 1:29:32.599 seems like it's going to be a significant king because 1:29:32.760 --> 1:29:35.639 if they're utilizing him, then maybe the guys aren't ready 1:29:35.920 --> 1:29:39.240 or they utilizing him as an example, or if they 1:29:39.320 --> 1:29:41.600 don't use him and the new guys are ready. So 1:29:42.040 --> 1:29:43.760 that's quite good. I mean, did you want to touch 1:29:43.880 --> 1:29:45.840 up on all of the four things, Yeah, if you 1:29:45.920 --> 1:29:48.040 want too? Sure are you any one of the four 1:29:48.160 --> 1:29:51.439 or all the four? If you liked that? Yeah? Absolutely? Yeah. 1:29:51.520 --> 1:29:54.560 The in regard to the rookies, I mean, it was 1:29:54.600 --> 1:29:57.280 only in sort of when they did some pictures from yesterday. 1:29:57.720 --> 1:29:59.639 I know it wasn't sort of camp yesterday, but when 1:29:59.640 --> 1:30:04.240 they did that, the guys have reported in I didn't realize, 1:30:04.600 --> 1:30:07.280 did you guys see the photograph of Kevin Harris? Oh 1:30:07.400 --> 1:30:09.880 my gosh, this guy is made up of tree trump. 1:30:10.560 --> 1:30:14.320 He's so solid. Even his neck is so solid. It's 1:30:14.360 --> 1:30:16.839 like that this is why they don't need a fallback 1:30:17.280 --> 1:30:21.160 because they've got Kevin Harris, because he looks like the 1:30:21.360 --> 1:30:25.160 possible moving of a brick war. He just looks so solid. 1:30:25.640 --> 1:30:27.840 It really just took me by surprised, and it's like, 1:30:28.080 --> 1:30:29.799 maybe that's why they're not going to use a fallback 1:30:29.880 --> 1:30:33.360 this year. They're actually going to substitute this FB on 1:30:33.439 --> 1:30:36.120 the roster and they're going to be using a running back. 1:30:36.439 --> 1:30:39.840 You're going to see so much more they really do it, 1:30:39.960 --> 1:30:42.559 but with you know, with remondering stuff. So but you're 1:30:42.600 --> 1:30:45.080 going to see this the power running back. This is 1:30:45.120 --> 1:30:47.960 a very sort of power running back heavy team now, 1:30:48.040 --> 1:30:52.320 I think. So I'm going to be really interested to 1:30:52.439 --> 1:30:56.519 see if Harris or as you mentioned sort of earlier 1:30:56.600 --> 1:30:59.360 in the show in regards to Piers Strong, who are 1:30:59.439 --> 1:31:03.040 that who out of those guys either or end up 1:31:03.040 --> 1:31:05.880 actually on the roster even just a little bit, or 1:31:05.960 --> 1:31:09.080 if they read shirt both are running back, which they 1:31:09.320 --> 1:31:13.040 have done quite frequently in the past. From what I understand, 1:31:13.520 --> 1:31:16.000 I only go back so far. But yeah, I think 1:31:16.040 --> 1:31:18.639 that's going to be a very interesting indication of how 1:31:18.720 --> 1:31:20.560 things are going to work. And again, as you have 1:31:20.640 --> 1:31:25.360 to mention the fact that James White isn't necessarily ready 1:31:25.439 --> 1:31:27.320 or he's on to you here at the moment, and 1:31:27.600 --> 1:31:29.760 the chances of him starting the season are looking a 1:31:29.840 --> 1:31:32.360 little bit limit the moment, just from what we're hearing, 1:31:32.439 --> 1:31:35.200 just from what's coming out in regards to sort of 1:31:36.120 --> 1:31:40.280 rumors and discussion in to his physical ability at the moment, 1:31:40.320 --> 1:31:42.240 the way that people have in him kind of literally 1:31:42.320 --> 1:31:44.800 walking and stuff like that. So Yeah. I think that's 1:31:44.840 --> 1:31:48.160 what interesting me quite significantly about the rookies is seeing 1:31:48.439 --> 1:31:52.280 if and which of the running backs say they decide 1:31:52.320 --> 1:31:54.800 that they need to use load. Yeah, you're you're bringing 1:31:54.840 --> 1:31:56.960 up Kevin Harris is kind of interesting because I mean, 1:31:57.120 --> 1:31:59.120 to me, he's one of those two or three guys 1:31:59.160 --> 1:32:01.639 that the Patriots have, you know, that they certainly picked 1:32:01.720 --> 1:32:03.519 up of the draft. But it's kind of an enigma 1:32:03.560 --> 1:32:05.519 because he spent a lot of his last year was 1:32:05.560 --> 1:32:07.280 a South Carolina. He spent a lot of his last 1:32:07.360 --> 1:32:11.400 year injured, right, So we don't really know what we're getting. 1:32:11.439 --> 1:32:13.680 And I think that's again that's kind of been a 1:32:13.760 --> 1:32:16.479 Patriot trademark. You know, they take chances on guys that 1:32:16.560 --> 1:32:18.720 they feel like they can do the job, even though 1:32:19.160 --> 1:32:22.960 the statistics might not necessarily back it up. And so well, 1:32:23.040 --> 1:32:25.080 I mentioned Strong simply because you know, when you look 1:32:25.120 --> 1:32:26.880 at the videotape and think, wow, this guy had a 1:32:26.920 --> 1:32:29.320 great career in South Dakota, you know, whether or not 1:32:29.439 --> 1:32:31.120 the caliber of play matters or not. I think you know, 1:32:31.200 --> 1:32:33.120 you can usually tell, you know, through a little bit 1:32:33.160 --> 1:32:34.799 of tape whether or not a guy can play football 1:32:34.840 --> 1:32:37.360 or not, regardless of the level and certainly they felt 1:32:37.360 --> 1:32:40.519 that way against Cold Strong because Cold strange rather because 1:32:40.960 --> 1:32:44.200 Strange was what a Tennessee Chattanooga right so didn't come 1:32:44.240 --> 1:32:52.040 from a huge program. Harris is again being an SEC 1:32:52.240 --> 1:32:54.960 pedigree back, you'd have to think that he's got some game. 1:32:55.040 --> 1:32:57.360 And so I think if he's able to do the 1:32:57.439 --> 1:32:59.040 kind of things that you were talking about doing, I 1:32:59.120 --> 1:33:01.200 mean you describe I'm almost like a bullethead. You know, 1:33:01.280 --> 1:33:02.720 he's just kind of got a pointy head, he got 1:33:02.800 --> 1:33:04.559 a big neck. He's gonna stick his head in there. 1:33:04.680 --> 1:33:06.839 That'd be great because if you have that kind of ability, 1:33:07.000 --> 1:33:10.240 you know, they basically have scrubbed the fullback off of 1:33:10.280 --> 1:33:12.720 the roster right now, which is sort of led a 1:33:12.800 --> 1:33:15.479 lot of people to believe that the Patriots offensive setup 1:33:15.840 --> 1:33:19.960 is going to be changed somewhat this year from what 1:33:20.120 --> 1:33:22.400 it has been what we've been used to seeing in 1:33:22.479 --> 1:33:25.559 the last few years. There was one of the takeaways 1:33:25.600 --> 1:33:28.599 I think amongst some of the media members today as 1:33:28.640 --> 1:33:30.720 I was listening to and hearing from those guys earlier today, 1:33:30.800 --> 1:33:32.759 was the fact that they kind of get the feeling 1:33:32.840 --> 1:33:36.519 that this offense is simplified, and I don't know that 1:33:36.720 --> 1:33:40.479 it doesn't mean it's simplistic. Doesn't mean it's necessarily going 1:33:40.560 --> 1:33:44.040 to be easy to detect or defend, but it's simplified 1:33:44.280 --> 1:33:48.599 in an effort to have these guys act and react 1:33:48.760 --> 1:33:50.960 rather than you know, okay, think it out and then 1:33:51.080 --> 1:33:52.920 go through and hit their spots. In other words, they 1:33:52.960 --> 1:33:56.639 can play at a faster speed, and I think that's 1:33:56.680 --> 1:33:59.360 what the coaching staff is trying to do, at least 1:33:59.400 --> 1:34:01.400 at this stage. Maybe Harris is one of those guys 1:34:01.479 --> 1:34:05.559 can contribute to that. M M, yeah, I was gonna 1:34:05.640 --> 1:34:07.720 I was gonna chip in with this. Um, I was 1:34:07.760 --> 1:34:10.000 gonna say, um, when it comes to offense playing at 1:34:10.000 --> 1:34:12.720 fast speed, UM, I'm not only a big fan of 1:34:12.800 --> 1:34:14.680 that because when it come when when you're playing at 1:34:14.680 --> 1:34:16.400 a fast speed, you know, a lot of the teams 1:34:16.439 --> 1:34:17.960 will tend to make like errors or like you know, 1:34:18.000 --> 1:34:19.720 it tend to like yeah, because if you work, the 1:34:19.760 --> 1:34:21.920 faster you work, you know, the more likely you are 1:34:22.000 --> 1:34:24.320 to forget something. So I know that even though you 1:34:24.400 --> 1:34:25.840 like you have to do a like fast running up 1:34:25.840 --> 1:34:28.280 the ball and you can have your guys like running 1:34:28.600 --> 1:34:30.680 running down like just keep moving around on that, you know. 1:34:31.360 --> 1:34:33.240 I find that like you know, if if like if 1:34:33.520 --> 1:34:37.280 if you're not in clutch time or if or if 1:34:37.320 --> 1:34:39.080 like you have like a good amount of time left 1:34:39.120 --> 1:34:40.720 like at least try to take your plays like look 1:34:40.960 --> 1:34:42.880 like look try to take him low and slow, at 1:34:42.920 --> 1:34:44.720 least like like a meeting speech, so that you don't 1:34:44.760 --> 1:34:46.200 mess anything up. I think that's one of the things 1:34:46.240 --> 1:34:49.599 that Belichick should at least try to focus on because 1:34:50.080 --> 1:34:53.880 knowing him like he's always um, I think he wants you. 1:34:54.040 --> 1:34:55.559 He wants you to play fast, but he also want 1:34:55.560 --> 1:34:58.720 you to play smart. Yeah, okay, gotta play smart if 1:34:58.760 --> 1:35:00.560 you're if you if you play too fast to the 1:35:00.600 --> 1:35:03.599 point where you've got reckless abandoned, you're not really helping 1:35:03.640 --> 1:35:05.120 the team. And I'll be honest with I think that 1:35:05.280 --> 1:35:06.720 was part of a guy like Chase. One of it's 1:35:06.760 --> 1:35:09.080 is full. You know, he would always play fast, but 1:35:09.160 --> 1:35:11.040 then he was ever never able to celebrate. And when 1:35:11.040 --> 1:35:13.479 he would play fast, he would sometimes go past is 1:35:13.560 --> 1:35:16.160 intended target. He would go swing wide and then the 1:35:16.240 --> 1:35:18.080 quarterback would step into the pocket and then he would 1:35:18.080 --> 1:35:21.000 cause damage. So you have to play fast, but you 1:35:21.120 --> 1:35:23.280 have to be smart, stay in your lane and make 1:35:23.320 --> 1:35:27.920 sure that you cause difficulty for the quarterback, running back, receiver, 1:35:28.240 --> 1:35:31.120 whoever's in that particular hole. And that's that's the biggest 1:35:31.160 --> 1:35:33.479 issue right there. I think we're trying to get across 1:35:33.520 --> 1:35:36.639 here is that, you know, fast is one thing, smart 1:35:36.880 --> 1:35:39.120 is another thing entirely, and the smarter guy is going 1:35:39.160 --> 1:35:41.720 to always beat out the faster guy, just the way 1:35:41.760 --> 1:35:43.720 it's been going to think that. That's what they're doing. 1:35:43.880 --> 1:35:48.400 They're taking the fast guys. They can teach them the smart, sure, 1:35:48.920 --> 1:35:50.960 they can mold them in the face its way, you 1:35:51.080 --> 1:35:54.480 can't teach speed. It's one of those things. So they've 1:35:54.560 --> 1:35:59.040 taken this year significant speed because there was significantly slow. 1:35:59.080 --> 1:36:01.400 The lack could see it. Absolutely. It's just a case 1:36:01.479 --> 1:36:05.599 of can they mold these minds into the patriots way 1:36:05.760 --> 1:36:08.479 that you know that works it in the system. And 1:36:09.280 --> 1:36:12.679 if the majority of these guys that are quick they can't, 1:36:13.200 --> 1:36:15.720 then they're really going to hit upon some goals which 1:36:16.080 --> 1:36:19.360 the Okay, cool Claire, It's always good to hear from you. 1:36:19.520 --> 1:36:23.080 Thanks kiddo, no drama. Nice to see you. Let's do it. 1:36:24.000 --> 1:36:26.759 You got it, Claire in the UK. All right, boys, 1:36:26.880 --> 1:36:29.479 good job, what a role. Thanks, thank you. We've got 1:36:29.560 --> 1:36:32.680 one final subject to tackle here on the program, all right, 1:36:33.080 --> 1:36:34.479 and it is one of the things that we talked 1:36:34.520 --> 1:36:36.560 about at the very beginning of the program, and it 1:36:36.680 --> 1:36:41.080 really is a simple question. Does it matter who calls 1:36:41.160 --> 1:36:44.600 the plays out on the field offense defense? Does it 1:36:44.840 --> 1:36:47.920 matter who's calling the plays? I know to many of 1:36:48.000 --> 1:36:51.680 you it certainly does. It doesn't necessarily matter to me, 1:36:51.760 --> 1:36:53.519 But we're going to kind of discuss that next. I'd 1:36:53.560 --> 1:36:56.320 like to hear from you. Eight five five Pats five hundred. 1:36:56.360 --> 1:37:00.880 The number is open innovatable web radio at Patriots at 1:37:01.000 --> 1:37:04.439 jay our broadcaster on Twitter, John dot Rook on Facebook, Ready, 1:37:04.640 --> 1:37:07.840 set and go. 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When 1:39:33.960 --> 1:39:35.960 did they get sort of nine thirty Are you guys 1:39:36.040 --> 1:39:40.519 doing unfiltered in the morning as well? Again? Nine fifteen 1:39:40.560 --> 1:39:44.400 you be Yeah? And how long did the practice normally run? 1:39:44.479 --> 1:39:47.280 Probably about eleven eleven hours today? Yeah, about two hours. 1:39:47.479 --> 1:39:50.240 Well that will vary. But if you're gonna be out 1:39:50.320 --> 1:39:51.920 here and we know that, you know, there's a good 1:39:51.960 --> 1:39:54.200 crowd out there today. Although I've seen bigger open than 1:39:54.280 --> 1:39:56.840 dick crowds than what we had today. Um my guess 1:39:57.000 --> 1:39:58.880 is is that those crowds will probably continue to pick 1:39:59.000 --> 1:40:01.920 up as we actually get closer to football time. And 1:40:02.040 --> 1:40:05.599 so the suggestion here is come earlier rather than late, 1:40:05.840 --> 1:40:07.720 because you never know. If they start a practice at 1:40:07.800 --> 1:40:10.639 nine thirty, Coach Belichick might call it at ten thirty. 1:40:10.880 --> 1:40:12.519 So if you're gonna be out here, make sure you're 1:40:12.520 --> 1:40:14.120 out and ready to roll at nine thirty and they'll 1:40:14.600 --> 1:40:16.719 I'll let you own and if you ever have any questions, 1:40:17.120 --> 1:40:19.960 the information you're usually always posted right here on Patriots 1:40:20.000 --> 1:40:23.639 dot com. As practice did open today, I did want 1:40:23.680 --> 1:40:26.080 to mention that we have a newcomer to our staff 1:40:26.120 --> 1:40:27.960 here on Patriots dot Com and a guy who's actually 1:40:27.960 --> 1:40:31.960 going to join us here inside the playbook regularly throughout 1:40:31.960 --> 1:40:34.120 the course of the season. And he's actually been one 1:40:34.200 --> 1:40:37.000 of our go to media guys throughout the course of 1:40:37.040 --> 1:40:39.120 the last couple of years. Evan Lazar, who worked at 1:40:39.160 --> 1:40:42.080 CLNS Media I think it was yeah with CLNS is 1:40:42.080 --> 1:40:45.360 where he worked. Evan Lazar is our new staff writer 1:40:46.200 --> 1:40:50.040 on Patriots dot com and he's got the update. In fact, 1:40:50.080 --> 1:40:51.840 if you want to just to go to the front 1:40:51.880 --> 1:40:54.680 page here today and he'll have the recap of what 1:40:54.920 --> 1:40:58.639 transpired at practice for you today. Of course, the bigger 1:40:58.720 --> 1:41:01.639 issue and Evan w also a part of the playbook 1:41:01.640 --> 1:41:03.960 as well once we jump into the regular season. So 1:41:04.040 --> 1:41:05.599 we're happy to have him because he's got some good 1:41:05.640 --> 1:41:08.040 media experience, He's got a good media following, and I 1:41:08.040 --> 1:41:11.080 would tell you that, you know, honestly, look, you tune 1:41:11.120 --> 1:41:13.200 into this show hopefully for a little bit more football. 1:41:13.760 --> 1:41:17.240 I don't say that without love and appreciation and my 1:41:17.360 --> 1:41:22.200 heart for everyone on Patriots Unfiltered. Okay, Matt works extraordinarily 1:41:22.360 --> 1:41:24.439 hard on that show, making those guys sound like they 1:41:24.520 --> 1:41:28.280 know what they're talking about. Give you the same love. Ah, yeah, 1:41:28.320 --> 1:41:30.559 well that's okay. I appreciate that though, thank you. Yeah, 1:41:30.600 --> 1:41:33.360 that's older guys. We sometimes need that. We definitely need that. 1:41:33.640 --> 1:41:35.280 But I'm glad that Evan's going to be a part 1:41:35.280 --> 1:41:37.280 of the program once we get started into the season. 1:41:37.439 --> 1:41:39.799 All right, So the biggest issue really to me today 1:41:40.760 --> 1:41:42.640 Day one a training camp, and the biggest story that 1:41:42.680 --> 1:41:45.120 we talked about at the start of the show, other 1:41:45.240 --> 1:41:48.040 than mister Kraft being nominated as a finalist for the 1:41:48.080 --> 1:41:50.439 Pro Football Hall of Fame for twenty three, which is 1:41:50.479 --> 1:41:53.559 certainly significant is the fact that Matt Patricia was out 1:41:53.600 --> 1:41:56.240 there calling plays today. It's calling the plays during the 1:41:56.280 --> 1:41:58.800 seven on seven drills, he's calling the plays during the 1:41:58.880 --> 1:42:02.400 eleven on eleven drill. So does that mean Matt Patricia's 1:42:02.439 --> 1:42:06.400 now the quote unquote de facto offensive coordinator? I don't know. 1:42:06.960 --> 1:42:08.840 I don't think anybody knows, and I don't think we're 1:42:08.880 --> 1:42:11.240 supposed to know. Now maybe he will be, but he 1:42:11.320 --> 1:42:13.400 didn't have the title. And so my whole point is 1:42:13.960 --> 1:42:19.800 why does it matter? And literally, because the Patriots may 1:42:19.960 --> 1:42:22.320 very well be and I think they are the only 1:42:22.400 --> 1:42:24.919 team in the NFL does not have a staff offensive 1:42:24.960 --> 1:42:28.960 coordinator or defensive garator on their coaching staff. It's not listed. 1:42:29.640 --> 1:42:34.400 They don't have that. Why is that? So? My final 1:42:34.479 --> 1:42:37.880 group here from my Dean College sports broadcasting camp, I've 1:42:37.880 --> 1:42:40.320 got Alex, I got Jake, and i got Greg in 1:42:40.479 --> 1:42:43.840 here with us today. Guys, introduce yourselves. Tell me where 1:42:43.840 --> 1:42:48.920 you're from. I'm Alex. I'm from Western Massachusetts, Weston, Okay. 1:42:49.439 --> 1:42:51.800 I'm Jake, and I'm from East Providence. Had a boy? 1:42:51.840 --> 1:42:55.240 What did it go? Towny? Greg? I'm Greg. I'm from Leicester, 1:42:55.439 --> 1:42:57.200 mass Leicester, mass All right, so I got a couple 1:42:57.240 --> 1:43:00.719 of Massachusetts and a towny from East Providence. Now, okay, 1:43:00.840 --> 1:43:04.200 so guys, does it matter who calls the place? Um? 1:43:04.960 --> 1:43:09.400 I think, well, there's three. There's three options. There's Bill, 1:43:10.000 --> 1:43:13.160 Bill Belichick, There's Map Putrician, and Joe Judge. I think 1:43:13.280 --> 1:43:17.120 one of them has proven to be a dependable offensive coordinator. 1:43:17.560 --> 1:43:21.040 So Bill back in twenty ten, he ran both offense 1:43:21.160 --> 1:43:24.200 and defense and they went fourteen and two. So I 1:43:24.320 --> 1:43:27.120 think he's proven that he can he's he can run 1:43:27.160 --> 1:43:29.200 an offense or at least call the plays for a 1:43:29.240 --> 1:43:34.240 successful offense. Whereas I think Joe Judge in New York, 1:43:34.680 --> 1:43:38.400 like Daniel Jones, has struggled, and I feel like Joe 1:43:38.479 --> 1:43:42.479 Judge has made like no effort to either change the offense, 1:43:42.560 --> 1:43:45.200 make it more simple, or how do we know that? 1:43:45.320 --> 1:43:47.320 Though I would ask you, how do we really know that? 1:43:47.600 --> 1:43:49.639 Is he working behind the scenes? We're not sure about 1:43:49.680 --> 1:43:52.439 that yet, are we really? We don't know that for sure, 1:43:52.560 --> 1:43:56.439 but from the touchdown to interception ratio we can see 1:43:56.560 --> 1:44:00.280 that well, last year his quarterbacks through fifteen touch Jones 1:44:00.320 --> 1:44:05.280 and twenty interceptions, and and the previous year they threw 1:44:05.360 --> 1:44:10.400 twelve touchdowns and eleven interceptions. Okay, So I think a 1:44:10.520 --> 1:44:14.439 big part of the Patriots just lifestyle is being to 1:44:14.560 --> 1:44:18.960 adopt and to just to adopt to the situation they 1:44:19.000 --> 1:44:21.320 are in. And I feel like he hasn't adopted. So 1:44:21.479 --> 1:44:24.439 if he was calling the plays, I feel like mac 1:44:24.520 --> 1:44:28.280 Jones was struggling with a particular system that he's running. 1:44:28.400 --> 1:44:29.800 He's not going to adopt to it, and he's just 1:44:29.840 --> 1:44:33.960 gonna let Act Jones kind of keep struggling. Okay, Jake, 1:44:33.960 --> 1:44:36.800 any thoughts on that one? Well, And I think from 1:44:36.840 --> 1:44:39.680 that two and ten season where the check didn't name 1:44:39.920 --> 1:44:43.639 any offensive or defensive coordinator. That same year, the pitches 1:44:43.680 --> 1:44:45.800 one fourteen two and he was named coach of the Year. 1:44:45.960 --> 1:44:48.800 So that's still a factor Pirate team. He's still here, 1:44:49.200 --> 1:44:51.600 He's got his two out of guys. Patition's back and 1:44:51.720 --> 1:44:54.839 Judges back, And like Alex is saying, Judge and Patition 1:44:55.000 --> 1:44:56.920 might have the best track records, but they know the 1:44:57.000 --> 1:45:00.240 Patriots system. They can help out a lot, and they 1:45:00.280 --> 1:45:03.839 can contribute, whether they're not under the name of defensive 1:45:03.920 --> 1:45:07.080 or offensive coordinator or not. Sound like you're kind of 1:45:07.120 --> 1:45:08.880 like me, then I'm not sure that this really matters 1:45:08.920 --> 1:45:11.200 a lot, does it. No, as long as it's a 1:45:11.280 --> 1:45:14.800 good team, they should be able to play well under anyone. Okay, Now, 1:45:15.000 --> 1:45:18.400 is it fair, however, that if this team struggles out 1:45:18.439 --> 1:45:19.880 of the gate? You know, and we know that, you 1:45:19.920 --> 1:45:23.360 know there are some choppy sections of the schedule that 1:45:23.400 --> 1:45:25.200 these guys are going to face this year if they 1:45:25.280 --> 1:45:27.120 struggle out of the gate, Is it fair to blame 1:45:27.240 --> 1:45:29.720 these guys for the lack of leadership or the lack 1:45:29.760 --> 1:45:34.320 of definition in their roles? It could be a little fair, 1:45:34.560 --> 1:45:37.360 and that maybe they really do need a leader. It's 1:45:37.400 --> 1:45:39.840 a thing that team's got to figure out along the way, 1:45:39.960 --> 1:45:42.000 like who's going to be the guy steps up? And 1:45:42.040 --> 1:45:44.120 if need a Patricia or a judge that the guys 1:45:44.120 --> 1:45:46.200 that step up, you have to think who else does 1:45:46.200 --> 1:45:48.040 it gonna be? So you could blame one of those 1:45:48.080 --> 1:45:50.479 two guys if they're not doing well. Yeah, well, and 1:45:50.600 --> 1:45:53.120 I think those guys probably have to be ready for that, right. 1:45:53.680 --> 1:45:55.400 I mean, they faced a lot of scrutiny as the 1:45:55.520 --> 1:45:58.160 head coach when they were head coaches in Detroit and 1:45:58.240 --> 1:46:01.200 New York and it didn't go very well. So now 1:46:01.280 --> 1:46:03.920 I think you know, they're just largely part of the 1:46:03.960 --> 1:46:07.280 reason why we don't see names or titles. I don't 1:46:07.280 --> 1:46:09.000 know that it has so much to do with, you know, 1:46:09.360 --> 1:46:12.240 monetary issues, because obviously Accordin is probably gonna get paid 1:46:12.240 --> 1:46:15.400 more money than a regular assistant coach. I think it's 1:46:15.400 --> 1:46:17.160 just to kind of shield and protect them and let 1:46:17.200 --> 1:46:21.599 them sort of try to rebuild the rep right, don't 1:46:21.640 --> 1:46:26.160 you think, Greg? What do you think? I completely agree. 1:46:26.200 --> 1:46:29.360 I don't think like that they need to actually name them. 1:46:29.439 --> 1:46:32.479 As long as they work together and like all work 1:46:32.560 --> 1:46:34.640 as a team and they have the team that they 1:46:34.640 --> 1:46:37.559 would be fine. Okay, So what are your thoughts then 1:46:37.600 --> 1:46:41.040 on the on a play caller in particular, a guy 1:46:41.080 --> 1:46:42.800 who you know, whether he's gonna call the police on 1:46:42.840 --> 1:46:44.800 offense or he's gonna call the signals on defense. What 1:46:44.880 --> 1:46:47.680 if it may be is that a vital role? Is 1:46:47.720 --> 1:46:50.400 it an overrated role? Is something that the players need 1:46:50.479 --> 1:46:53.280 for guidance? Leadership? I mean, you know, if you've played 1:46:53.320 --> 1:46:55.880 sports at all, how much did you look for someone 1:46:55.960 --> 1:46:59.000 to tell you what to do? I think it's a 1:46:59.080 --> 1:47:01.920 pretty empire role, especially to have someone be able to 1:47:02.160 --> 1:47:04.040 play the cause there just be a mental for you, 1:47:04.720 --> 1:47:08.920 Like Joe Judge is named Claraback's assistant, so he could 1:47:08.960 --> 1:47:11.800 be one of those guys that guides mac Jones help 1:47:11.880 --> 1:47:16.599 him out into transition from Josh McDaniels to him. Right, Okay, 1:47:17.120 --> 1:47:20.439 I got a question on the email here from Alan 1:47:20.840 --> 1:47:24.080 in Texas who says, hey, y'all love it the y'all 1:47:24.200 --> 1:47:27.000 in there right with the apostrophe. Nice mac Jones. Arm 1:47:27.080 --> 1:47:29.639 strength has been discussed and written about. Can he improve 1:47:29.800 --> 1:47:33.400 this arm strength with arm strength, lower body strength, mechanics 1:47:33.560 --> 1:47:36.040 or is it a combination of all of it? In 1:47:36.160 --> 1:47:40.080 your opinion, how important is it that he increases arm 1:47:40.160 --> 1:47:42.639 strength is? If it is important, then how much Canny 1:47:42.720 --> 1:47:45.519 increase it? You got anybody want to offer a thought 1:47:45.560 --> 1:47:47.680 on that one. I don't know how much of it 1:47:47.920 --> 1:47:50.080 is pure arm strength. I think us to do all 1:47:50.120 --> 1:47:53.639 out with the lower body. I think hip strength includes 1:47:53.640 --> 1:47:55.400 strength as the most of it, because you've got to 1:47:55.400 --> 1:47:57.280 really get your hips into it. I don't think it's 1:47:57.320 --> 1:48:01.240 purely arm strength, but I think something they can improve on, 1:48:01.640 --> 1:48:06.519 probably with either mechanics or just or I think it's 1:48:06.560 --> 1:48:10.559 mostly mechanics but also just hip strength. Hip strength mostionally, 1:48:10.760 --> 1:48:13.640 I think. So, okay, have you played quarterback before? No? 1:48:14.160 --> 1:48:17.519 But Dak Prescott has made a very popular his little 1:48:17.760 --> 1:48:21.720 pregame is Dak Dance. Yeah, is trying to get those 1:48:21.800 --> 1:48:24.599 hips activated, right, right, absolutely, So it kind of has 1:48:24.680 --> 1:48:28.800 to start from the core, right, Yeah, A strong arms. Look, 1:48:29.840 --> 1:48:31.720 if you've got fast receivers, you gotta be able to 1:48:31.720 --> 1:48:33.320 get the ball down field to them. But I think 1:48:33.400 --> 1:48:36.879 most guys now, especially when you're in rear round training sessions, 1:48:37.600 --> 1:48:39.240 they're not going to have what we would term a 1:48:39.320 --> 1:48:42.040 weak arm. They might not have an accurate arm, but 1:48:42.120 --> 1:48:43.920 I don't think it's weak. I think you're right. I 1:48:44.000 --> 1:48:46.479 think it comes from your legs, your core, your hips 1:48:46.600 --> 1:48:49.479 mostly and then hopefully you don't do enough to strain 1:48:49.560 --> 1:48:51.360 your upper body because you have to rely on that 1:48:51.439 --> 1:48:54.560 for consistency. But honestly, I'm not sure that there's a 1:48:54.640 --> 1:48:58.400 quarterback in the NFL today who could be really considered 1:48:58.400 --> 1:49:01.439 a weak long ball thrower. You've got to have some distance, 1:49:01.560 --> 1:49:05.160 right at least That's kind of how I look at it. So, guys, 1:49:05.200 --> 1:49:10.360 in terms of coaches, who are you know, I don't know, 1:49:10.680 --> 1:49:14.400 calling the plays on both sides of the ball now? Defensively, 1:49:14.760 --> 1:49:17.479 is there any change from the offensive side? Is the 1:49:17.600 --> 1:49:21.000 defense in your thought I don't want to say not important, 1:49:21.040 --> 1:49:24.240 but is it not as rigid just because you don't 1:49:24.280 --> 1:49:26.760 have You do have some play calls on the defensive side, 1:49:27.000 --> 1:49:28.920 but it's not like it's going to dictate the play. 1:49:29.120 --> 1:49:32.280 The defense is mostly read and react where offense is 1:49:32.360 --> 1:49:36.120 mostly attack. Does that change at all in your estimations 1:49:36.200 --> 1:49:38.960 terms who should be calling, or who should be lining up, 1:49:39.040 --> 1:49:42.360 or who should be putting the players in their proper positions? 1:49:42.400 --> 1:49:44.679 What are your thoughts about calling on the defensive side. 1:49:45.200 --> 1:49:48.400 I don't think well. I think since twenty eighteen, I 1:49:48.439 --> 1:49:52.439 don't think Belichick has well. I don't think he's named 1:49:52.560 --> 1:49:56.000 a specific defensive cording. I think he's had. Last year 1:49:56.080 --> 1:49:59.760 he had Drawn Mayo and Steve Belichick, I believe called 1:50:00.000 --> 1:50:03.240 at the plays, and I think he's completely comfortable with that, 1:50:04.280 --> 1:50:06.920 and because I think he trusts them most of all, 1:50:06.960 --> 1:50:10.679 I think belichicks he wants someone that he can trust 1:50:10.760 --> 1:50:13.920 and to call the place. But I think he shadows around. 1:50:14.040 --> 1:50:16.200 He's like kind of popping in because he has one 1:50:16.200 --> 1:50:20.040 of the best defensive minds as a coach has had 1:50:20.400 --> 1:50:24.559 in recent years. So I think he has a scheme. 1:50:24.600 --> 1:50:27.560 I think he loves preparations. He loves that week that 1:50:27.760 --> 1:50:30.160 coming up to the Sunday or whenever their game is 1:50:30.439 --> 1:50:34.000 and he's like, Okay, we need to contain this guy. 1:50:34.080 --> 1:50:35.920 We got to push this guy out of a pocket. 1:50:35.960 --> 1:50:39.519 And that's like their defensive scheme. But I think they 1:50:39.760 --> 1:50:41.760 last year they were man heavy. They think they were 1:50:41.880 --> 1:50:45.880 third in Cover one. Yes, we'll see how that goes 1:50:45.920 --> 1:50:49.400 this year because they lost Jasey Jackson and obviously Stephan Gilmour, 1:50:49.800 --> 1:50:53.360 they lost free agency, so we'll see how man heavy 1:50:53.400 --> 1:50:55.280 they are. They might run a lot more so in 1:50:55.360 --> 1:50:58.920 this year. But I think he knows his players, he 1:50:59.040 --> 1:51:03.080 knows their strengths, and he studies the opponent and does 1:51:03.160 --> 1:51:08.519 whatever he can do to make the opponent. Very good stuff, Alex. 1:51:08.600 --> 1:51:11.360 Now you can't see this where you're listening to this program, 1:51:11.439 --> 1:51:14.000 but I can see it. Alex is sitting here in 1:51:14.120 --> 1:51:20.639 a vintage throwback Chicago Bulls nineteen ninety one NBA T shirt. 1:51:21.040 --> 1:51:27.480 What is up with that? Uh? Looks very good? Where's 1:51:27.600 --> 1:51:31.920 mj oh? I don't see. I don't see. He's got 1:51:31.960 --> 1:51:33.479 to be in there, right? Oh, there is that him 1:51:33.479 --> 1:51:36.920 over on the left there. Yeah, because they're all caricaturs, right, 1:51:37.200 --> 1:51:40.920 that's a cool yeah, I think this look fantastic. I 1:51:41.000 --> 1:51:46.240 have to ask, yeah, right, what are you wearing? I know, 1:51:46.439 --> 1:51:48.719 all right, just because you're a fan of the Bulls 1:51:48.800 --> 1:51:52.240 or what. Uh, I'm a fan of MJ. But I 1:51:52.320 --> 1:51:54.679 don't know. I just really like the shirt and bought it. Okay, 1:51:55.320 --> 1:51:57.800 that's fair. How long have you had that shirt? A 1:51:57.920 --> 1:52:00.559 few months? Where did you get a nineteen ninety one 1:52:00.640 --> 1:52:03.519 shirt from just a few months ago? Oh, I don't know. 1:52:03.680 --> 1:52:07.200 It's definitely not authentic. I just found it online. Oh 1:52:07.520 --> 1:52:10.240 one of those Okay, okay, I got you. All right. 1:52:10.520 --> 1:52:12.200 We like to digress a lot on the show, and 1:52:12.800 --> 1:52:14.439 that just caught my eye, and I'm like, does that 1:52:14.600 --> 1:52:17.880 really say nineteen ninety one? You know, because in nineteen 1:52:18.000 --> 1:52:21.800 ninety one, that was thirty one years ago. You weren't 1:52:21.800 --> 1:52:24.120 a live dude. No, you won't even you weren't even 1:52:24.160 --> 1:52:27.960 a twinkle in your mama's eye. No, nope, nope, nope, nope, 1:52:28.120 --> 1:52:30.880 I barely was. I also lie a lot too, So 1:52:31.479 --> 1:52:34.920 all right, so I guess I get the next thing 1:52:35.000 --> 1:52:36.479 that we really need to kind of get to here 1:52:36.560 --> 1:52:38.639 is we start to wrap up the show. Is we've 1:52:38.680 --> 1:52:43.040 talked about calling plays in some instances it could be important, 1:52:43.080 --> 1:52:48.240 but overall not really. The players still have to execute, right. Um, 1:52:48.640 --> 1:52:50.840 If it is a big deal, well then clearly after 1:52:50.920 --> 1:52:53.720 what we mentioned this Jake three or four weeks, then 1:52:53.960 --> 1:52:56.080 maybe the coaches deserved to get some of the criticism. 1:52:56.400 --> 1:52:59.640 I don't know that a defined coaching role is going 1:52:59.720 --> 1:53:03.280 to necessarily help the team get better, and I think 1:53:03.320 --> 1:53:05.280 that's what a lot of people think. I think there 1:53:05.320 --> 1:53:07.679 are a lot of fans who are concerned that whatever 1:53:07.800 --> 1:53:11.639 progress Matt Jones head as we just talked about last year, 1:53:11.960 --> 1:53:15.560 might get slowed this year because he doesn't have that 1:53:15.760 --> 1:53:18.680 quarterback whisperer necessarily in his ear. Who's to say that, 1:53:18.800 --> 1:53:22.439 Matt Patricia isn't that. Who's to say that Joe Judge 1:53:23.080 --> 1:53:25.719 isn't that? If these guys are all on the same page, 1:53:25.800 --> 1:53:28.680 working together toward the same goal, and they need to win. 1:53:28.800 --> 1:53:30.599 And I think these coaches, as they try to work 1:53:30.640 --> 1:53:33.280 their way back up the coaching ladder, they need to 1:53:33.360 --> 1:53:35.679 win in order to be able to get that attention. 1:53:35.720 --> 1:53:40.080 If this team has success with this particular you know backdrop, 1:53:40.760 --> 1:53:43.040 don't you think it's quite likely that they may get 1:53:43.040 --> 1:53:46.559 another shot somewhere else. I think it will be defined 1:53:46.720 --> 1:53:48.960 as the season goes on, if they're having learning the 1:53:49.040 --> 1:53:51.880 record or if they're doing really well, they'll reveal who 1:53:51.920 --> 1:53:55.560 he's doing what like, you could think maybe they like 1:53:55.680 --> 1:53:57.880 a player, says Matt, Patricia is doing a really good 1:53:58.000 --> 1:54:00.479 job so far, especially this week, on calling place and 1:54:00.600 --> 1:54:02.599 so that will help them out a lot. It might 1:54:02.760 --> 1:54:05.720 very well be if Matt's started out calling today, maybe 1:54:05.800 --> 1:54:08.920 next week it's Joe. Maybe they shared a position. Well, 1:54:08.920 --> 1:54:10.559 that's kind of what I'm thinking. I wouldn't be at 1:54:10.560 --> 1:54:13.519 all surprised to see coach Judge calling plays before two 1:54:13.560 --> 1:54:15.040 much longer. Man, I don't know if they'll go every 1:54:15.120 --> 1:54:18.240 other day. They might. We'll find out tomorrow, I guess, 1:54:18.280 --> 1:54:21.280 and the day after. But I could certainly see where, 1:54:21.360 --> 1:54:23.760 you know, week one one coach gets it, week two, 1:54:23.800 --> 1:54:25.840 the next coach gets it. Because we were sort of 1:54:25.920 --> 1:54:28.400 told during the you know, mini camp, but the OTAs 1:54:28.439 --> 1:54:30.160 that this is sort of going to be a kind 1:54:30.160 --> 1:54:32.440 of an open thing and they were gonna just kind 1:54:32.480 --> 1:54:36.240 of decide what was going to happen here based on 1:54:36.480 --> 1:54:39.920 how these players practice and how they respond to the 1:54:40.040 --> 1:54:43.080 play calls that are made, and where they respond the 1:54:43.160 --> 1:54:45.240 best is kind of the direction this team is going 1:54:45.320 --> 1:54:48.600 to go. So this is an open book. Matt called 1:54:48.640 --> 1:54:50.480 it in day one. I'm sure Joe's going to get 1:54:50.520 --> 1:54:52.560 a shot. There maybe a couple of other guys on 1:54:52.600 --> 1:54:55.600 the offensive staff that may have an opportunity here because 1:54:55.680 --> 1:54:56.960 one of the things, and I know you guys know 1:54:57.040 --> 1:55:00.440 this because you did your research on the coaches they coach, 1:55:00.560 --> 1:55:03.040 is an opportunity here to work their way up. Right, 1:55:03.520 --> 1:55:05.600 Some people kind of feel like, you know, Coach belichick 1:55:05.720 --> 1:55:08.640 sons you know on the defensive side are here. Why 1:55:08.760 --> 1:55:11.480 because their their last name is Belichick. But he entrusts 1:55:11.520 --> 1:55:15.240 them with a lot of responsibility. And we think that 1:55:15.280 --> 1:55:17.680 at least Steve Belichick in particular has probably done his 1:55:17.760 --> 1:55:20.640 fair share of play calling already. Has he not? Yeah, 1:55:20.920 --> 1:55:25.440 mixed bag maybe, but he's learning. And you think about 1:55:25.560 --> 1:55:29.840 how players have position battles throughout training camps. He was 1:55:29.880 --> 1:55:32.440 under us, and there's also coach battles see who can 1:55:32.520 --> 1:55:34.800 get which position, who can work up the ladder fact, 1:55:34.800 --> 1:55:37.520 And I think that's part of the intriguing fun really, 1:55:37.640 --> 1:55:39.480 if you want to put it that way. It's just 1:55:39.800 --> 1:55:42.680 sort of the the storyline that we can kind of 1:55:42.720 --> 1:55:44.720 follow and have some fun with throughout the course of 1:55:44.760 --> 1:55:47.000 training camp. Hey, not only their battles going on amongst 1:55:47.000 --> 1:55:50.840 the players, there's competition amongst the coaches here. Why not. 1:55:51.440 --> 1:55:53.120 I think it's good and it's healthy, you know, and 1:55:53.200 --> 1:55:55.880 if every other team has it, look, you know, has 1:55:56.320 --> 1:55:59.480 a defensive coordinator, offensive coordinator, a position coach, whatever it 1:55:59.560 --> 1:56:02.840 may be. Okay, that's great because you found somebody who 1:56:02.880 --> 1:56:07.160 defined for that role. And if they screw up, well 1:56:07.200 --> 1:56:09.520 they're going to catch their fair share of heat. If 1:56:09.560 --> 1:56:12.240 the Patriots screw up and we don't know who's in 1:56:12.360 --> 1:56:18.920 that particular role, you're already deflecting pressure, you're already deflecting criticism. Well, 1:56:19.000 --> 1:56:21.760 this is kind of a team thing, right, Okay, that's fine, 1:56:21.760 --> 1:56:23.880 but somebody's ultimately got to be responsible for the call 1:56:24.000 --> 1:56:26.880 plus or minus. And I think it's Bill's way of 1:56:26.960 --> 1:56:29.920 protecting his guys and he's helping to try to nurture 1:56:29.960 --> 1:56:31.840 them and get them back to, you know, where he 1:56:31.960 --> 1:56:34.720 feels they can be not only effective for the Patriots, 1:56:34.760 --> 1:56:37.560 but maybe for their own careers. I think that's one 1:56:37.560 --> 1:56:39.160 of the things that I like about coach Belichick, and 1:56:39.160 --> 1:56:41.680 I've always liked about coach Belichick. I think he has 1:56:41.720 --> 1:56:46.480 an intrinsic sense of loyalty to his guys, right, he's loyal, 1:56:47.120 --> 1:56:50.240 And man, if you're playing for a coach in your 1:56:50.280 --> 1:56:52.600 own sports, right, don't you want to coach at least 1:56:52.600 --> 1:56:54.160 if you're gonna go out and bust your tail for him, 1:56:54.200 --> 1:56:55.840 don't you want him to have your back somewhere else 1:56:55.880 --> 1:56:58.600 on down the line. I don't even know that Coach 1:56:58.640 --> 1:57:01.240 Belichick started out as the most loyal guy, because you 1:57:01.680 --> 1:57:04.320 guys know the history. When Drew Bledsoe got hurt, mo 1:57:04.480 --> 1:57:06.960 Lewis piled him over for the Jets and Tom Brady 1:57:07.000 --> 1:57:09.920 stepped in back in no one right, and Drew Bledsoe 1:57:10.040 --> 1:57:14.320 thought that Coach Belichick was being disloyal way back, you know, 1:57:14.560 --> 1:57:16.960 all those years ago, before you guys were even born. 1:57:17.040 --> 1:57:20.200 But I'm just saying, here's, you know, a situation where 1:57:21.360 --> 1:57:23.600 you'll like to think that he's loyal. Everything that he's 1:57:23.680 --> 1:57:26.480 done in the past indicates loyalty. But at the same time, 1:57:26.520 --> 1:57:29.840 it's also a business. Okay, we're in the business of 1:57:29.960 --> 1:57:32.800 winning here, and I think the track record has proven 1:57:32.840 --> 1:57:36.040 that there are a lot of decisions, undoubtedly that have 1:57:36.160 --> 1:57:39.960 been derided, been complained about, been argued about. Oh God, 1:57:40.000 --> 1:57:42.680 he didn't know what the hell he's doing, and yet 1:57:42.760 --> 1:57:46.760 the team still stays competitive and the team wins. Last year, 1:57:46.840 --> 1:57:50.040 this team went ten and seven, they still made the 1:57:50.080 --> 1:57:54.320 playoffs with a rookie quarterback. I'm trying to kind of 1:57:54.560 --> 1:57:56.560 look at the sunny side of the picture here if 1:57:56.600 --> 1:57:58.600 you kind of get the gist here. Did they do 1:57:58.720 --> 1:58:00.400 what we wanted him to do? No? Did they get 1:58:00.440 --> 1:58:04.240 blown out by the Bills. Yes, okay, Buffalo is clearly superior. 1:58:04.480 --> 1:58:06.160 They go into the season as the favorite in the 1:58:06.200 --> 1:58:08.880 ANFC East. They should be. They earned it. I've always 1:58:08.920 --> 1:58:10.720 been in the opinion. You know, the champ is still 1:58:10.760 --> 1:58:13.560 the champ until the champ gets beat, then the champ 1:58:13.720 --> 1:58:16.000 is not the champ anymore. And that's how I look 1:58:16.040 --> 1:58:17.280 at it. I always looked at it like that when 1:58:17.280 --> 1:58:19.000 the Patriots were the champs. I look at it now. 1:58:19.200 --> 1:58:21.400 Buffalo they won the division. They deserve to be there 1:58:21.480 --> 1:58:24.000 until somebody can knock them off. I don't think that 1:58:24.120 --> 1:58:27.760 this division got weaker. I think this division particularly got stronger. 1:58:28.680 --> 1:58:32.480 Buffalo is still gonna Buffalo. Miami has definitely improved. I'm 1:58:32.480 --> 1:58:34.560 actious to see how that coaching staff reacts, and I'm 1:58:34.560 --> 1:58:37.400 wondering with a changeover and staff from what Brian Flores 1:58:37.480 --> 1:58:40.280 now to you know, the new regime there. I'm wondering 1:58:40.320 --> 1:58:43.720 if that sets them back at all, and can the 1:58:43.840 --> 1:58:45.440 Jets be as bad as the Jets have been in 1:58:45.480 --> 1:58:47.440 the last few years. I don't know that they can be. 1:58:48.080 --> 1:58:49.640 At some point time, they're gonna come up and they're 1:58:49.640 --> 1:58:51.240 gonna bite you a little bit. You have someone that 1:58:51.320 --> 1:58:54.600 Greg that's just I mean, they're all the teams are 1:58:54.640 --> 1:59:00.840 getting better. It's like a more competition in the division up. Yep. 1:59:01.280 --> 1:59:03.400 All right, I'm gonna put you on the spot. Pick 1:59:03.480 --> 1:59:07.440 a winner in the AFC East. I think it has 1:59:07.520 --> 1:59:11.200 three the Bills. Yeah, Bills, I clear a favorite, So 1:59:11.520 --> 1:59:13.320 I would pick that. You're definitely going to build, all right. 1:59:13.560 --> 1:59:20.040 What's the Patriots record going to be? Also? I think 1:59:20.080 --> 1:59:22.560 they stay the same. I think they go ten and seven, 1:59:23.120 --> 1:59:26.280 but they start off They're gonna start off slow. New 1:59:26.360 --> 1:59:29.440 coaching change, especially on the offense. I wouldn't be surprised 1:59:29.520 --> 1:59:33.600 the first five weeks they're like two and three, maybe 1:59:34.520 --> 1:59:36.360 maybe three and two. But I think they're gonna have 1:59:36.360 --> 1:59:39.160 a slow start, but I think they're gonna pick it up. Jake, 1:59:39.200 --> 1:59:41.520 what do you think, I would say probably nine and 1:59:41.600 --> 1:59:44.160 eight on just on the outskirts of a playoff fair 1:59:44.440 --> 1:59:46.320 So you think they'll be on the outside looking in 1:59:46.360 --> 1:59:48.840 at nine to eight. The entire AFC has gotten better, 1:59:48.960 --> 1:59:51.960 especially out last what the Bronco is, the Chargers, the 1:59:52.120 --> 1:59:54.720 Raiders and the Chiefs still and all the other teams 1:59:54.800 --> 1:59:57.800 like the Colts and the teams from the North, like 1:59:57.920 --> 2:00:00.560 the Ravens. It's gonna be a tight. I think they 2:00:00.640 --> 2:00:02.200 just be on the outside of it. So nine and 2:00:02.280 --> 2:00:04.960 eight is not good enough to get in the dance? Nope, Okay, 2:00:05.000 --> 2:00:06.760 what do you think, Greg, Yeah, I'm thinking the same 2:00:06.800 --> 2:00:08.920 thing as Jake. Nine and eight just out but like 2:00:09.040 --> 2:00:11.360 they're also gonna have like that slow start and loose 2:00:11.440 --> 2:00:14.240 like the first few games and and everybody will panic, yeah, 2:00:14.280 --> 2:00:17.120 and then they slowly pick it up, but they're right there. Okay, 2:00:17.360 --> 2:00:19.680 all right, guys, good job today, man where to go. 2:00:19.960 --> 2:00:24.600 Excellent work thanks to all of our broadcasters here at 2:00:24.680 --> 2:00:26.840 Dean College today. I mean, I have so much fun 2:00:27.240 --> 2:00:31.200 every year when we're able and I have the ability 2:00:31.280 --> 2:00:34.080 to host these guys. You know, our campus, our campus 2:00:34.240 --> 2:00:37.240 frank and Franklin, Mass is literally fifteen minutes from here 2:00:37.280 --> 2:00:40.760 from the Gillette Stadium complex, and you know, we're very 2:00:40.800 --> 2:00:43.440 proud of the fact that we do have an academic 2:00:43.520 --> 2:00:46.120 partnership with Craft Sports and Entertainment with the Patriots, with 2:00:46.160 --> 2:00:49.360 the Revolution, with Patriot Place, with Gillette Stadium, and what 2:00:49.520 --> 2:00:53.000 that really means is and we were the first school 2:00:53.080 --> 2:00:56.280 in the country to have a defined academic partnership with 2:00:56.360 --> 2:00:59.560 an NFL franchise, and one of the things we've been 2:00:59.680 --> 2:01:03.200 proud of, and the mister Craft and Jonathan and everybody 2:01:03.280 --> 2:01:06.520 really with the Patriots, they saw the value on what 2:01:06.640 --> 2:01:08.280 it is that we wanted to do and try to 2:01:08.480 --> 2:01:13.120 train the next generation of people who want to work 2:01:13.320 --> 2:01:16.280 in sports. That's what we do. This happens to be 2:01:16.320 --> 2:01:19.040 the sports broadcasting, the sports media end of that, but 2:01:19.320 --> 2:01:23.280 we're also you know, into sports management, sports marketing, sports sales, 2:01:24.080 --> 2:01:27.760 sports conditioning, sports science, all that stuff. What we do, 2:01:28.120 --> 2:01:31.600 especially at Dean and our broadcasters here this week, utilizing 2:01:31.640 --> 2:01:34.120 the auspices of these radio studios and doing some TV 2:01:34.240 --> 2:01:36.240 work and giving them a chance to cut their teeth 2:01:36.240 --> 2:01:38.440 a little bit and learn something, take it back to school, 2:01:38.720 --> 2:01:42.040 and then hopefully, like we said at the beginning of 2:01:42.080 --> 2:01:44.920 the program, hopefully they're in here in my chair somewhere. 2:01:44.920 --> 2:01:46.680 They booted me out. And guys, have anyone of you 2:01:46.840 --> 2:01:50.120 does that? You're all dead to me? Okay, No, I'm 2:01:50.160 --> 2:01:54.160 just teasing. Super job, Super Job, appreciate it all the time. Man, 2:01:54.240 --> 2:01:57.320 thanks for helping a quarterback at all. So we got Alex, John, 2:01:57.440 --> 2:02:03.480 Mike James, Nick, Jack, Aiden Brody, Aaron, Jonah, Alex, Alex, 2:02:03.600 --> 2:02:07.640 number three, Jake and Greg as all of our teammates 2:02:07.680 --> 2:02:09.840 here today. Thank you, gentlemen, Thank you for taking the 2:02:09.920 --> 2:02:12.160 time to listen to us. If you just caught the 2:02:12.200 --> 2:02:13.960 tail end of the program live and you miss the 2:02:13.960 --> 2:02:17.000 first part of the gram, well, the podcast will be 2:02:17.160 --> 2:02:19.960 shortly posted right here on Patriots dot com. Our next 2:02:20.080 --> 2:02:26.880 show and our final offseason program will be August thirty first, Wednesday, 2:02:27.120 --> 2:02:29.560 August thirty first, and that of course will be literally 2:02:30.360 --> 2:02:33.320 what eight days before the launch of the NFL regular 2:02:33.320 --> 2:02:35.480 season on that first Thursday night game, and then of 2:02:35.520 --> 2:02:37.200 course it's a little more than about ten days right 2:02:37.240 --> 2:02:39.800 there before the Patriots play their season open, so we'll 2:02:39.880 --> 2:02:42.640 jump right into the regular season. But on August thirty first, 2:02:42.640 --> 2:02:45.960 we'll have an opportunity to evaluate preseason and a lot 2:02:46.040 --> 2:02:49.280 of the things that these young gentlemen from Dean College 2:02:49.320 --> 2:02:52.600 have been discussing here today with you on this opening 2:02:52.680 --> 2:02:54.560 day of training camp. So if you get a chance 2:02:54.600 --> 2:02:56.880 to come out to Foxborough, take a look at training camp, 2:02:57.080 --> 2:02:58.760 enjoy it. It's still fun to be a part of 2:02:59.200 --> 2:03:01.360 Take a look at the new guys, see what you 2:03:01.520 --> 2:03:03.560 think and let's talk about it. Hit me up on 2:03:03.640 --> 2:03:06.600 social media. Thanks Marine, we'll talk to you next month. 2:03:09.600 --> 2:03:13.400 Thank you for downloading this podcast. Subscribe on Apple, google Play, 2:03:13.480 --> 2:03:16.480 and everywhere else you're listening. Like the show, Please rate 2:03:16.560 --> 2:03:19.520 and review us listener comments of ratings and help keep 2:03:19.600 --> 2:03:22.320 us high in the podcast rankings so new listeners can 2:03:22.400 --> 2:03:25.560 find us. Be sure to Checkpatriots dot com for more 2:03:25.640 --> 2:03:27.480 news and more podcasts.