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Speaker 2: Hey, guys, welcome to the Professional Homegirl Podcast. Ishagara Ebana

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Speaker 2: here and I am super excited to introduce a brand

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Speaker 2: In this series, I'll be sending down with some notable figures,

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Speaker 4: You guessing who's really behind the voice.

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Speaker 2: Get ready to unlock some incredible stories only here on

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Speaker 2: a professional homegirl podcast. All right, welcome back to a

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Speaker 2: fire episode of the PhD Unlocked series Ishigara ebene here

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Speaker 2: and I hope all is cute. Now today we are

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Speaker 2: diving into an iconic piece of early two thousand pop culture.

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Speaker 2: If you grew up during that time, like I did,

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Speaker 2: hottest music videos on beet. During this episode, we're gonna

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Speaker 2: So sit back, relax, and get ready for some laughs, insight,

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Speaker 2: and a trip down memory lane. Okay, as we unlock

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Speaker 2: the world of a digital queen who redefined entertainment.

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Speaker 4: Starting now.

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Speaker 2: All right, y'all, we have a treat for you all today.

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Speaker 2: We've been kicking for like thirty minutes. I'm like, Yo,

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Speaker 2: we gotta start recording because we've just been KEI king.

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Speaker 2: So to my guest, it is such an honor to

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Speaker 2: have you on the show. Why are you shaking your

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Speaker 2: head already?

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Speaker 3: Here? You already know I'm not comfortable in that space. Like,

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Speaker 3: I absolutely am beyond grateful to hear you say this

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Speaker 3: and give me all these accolades. But because I don't know,

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Speaker 3: I guess I need to practice more self love. It

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Speaker 3: just feels weird, it feels cringe.

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Speaker 2: Like, no, I'm telling you, I remember watching you when

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Speaker 2: I was in class, and I always believe that God

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Speaker 2: would show you glimpses of your life through all the people.

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Speaker 2: And I really do believe that I would not be

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Speaker 2: where I was at if it wasn't for your influence.

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Speaker 2: So I know, I'm serious that I used to be

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Speaker 2: obsessed with you. So I'm just like, I'm not about

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Speaker 4: Dead ass.

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Speaker 3: This is so dope. This is so dead ass. Like

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Speaker 3: I'm so that's a beautiful thing. I really appreciate that

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Speaker 3: so so so much.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's so funny. Girl, my eyes already were,

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Speaker 4: and I'm such a cry baby.

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Speaker 2: But it's just so funny because remember, I reached out

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Speaker 2: So I'm happy that we did it.

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Speaker 3: Now. Keep making it about me says so much about you, though,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, and I mean that with

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Speaker 5: Book.

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Speaker 4: Now, how are you how you feeling?

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Speaker 3: I already share with you. I mean, I don't feel

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Speaker 3: a little melancholy because I relocated to a whole different country, girl,

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Speaker 3: I don't know that it's challenging because it's nothing but

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Speaker 5: Good, good, What made you move?

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Speaker 4: I'm just curious.

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Speaker 3: So many whys? Oh, so many, I have so many

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Speaker 3: foremost was that my mental health was hanging by a string.

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Speaker 3: You know, God blessed me with all these wonderful diagnoses.

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Speaker 3: So I got with depression at the team. Yeah, a

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Speaker 3: bipolar disorder. So now condo bipolar the lesser of the two.

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Speaker 3: Like I'm not gonna freak out and call everybody hitler

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Speaker 3: it wasn't enough. It wasn't enough. I'm coming back into office,

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Speaker 3: I said. I wouldn't say that man's name, but whatever,

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Speaker 3: I didn't know obviously what he was going to do exactly,

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Speaker 3: And all I could think was like Handmaid's Tale type

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Speaker 3: The fact that this y'all's country now my country is

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Speaker 3: and hey, black women, Oh baby, we're in a chopping block.

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Speaker 3: We're always being targeted. I can't they take away the

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Speaker 3: What are you talking about? Bag? Like That's the kind

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Speaker 3: and this man hires them to do a greater job,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Airplanes are flying flipping on

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Speaker 4: Never seen no ship like that. That's how I know

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, a lot of that, you know, just

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Speaker 4: Years pioneering this. No, you are for sure for sure.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the fact that and how crazy is it that

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Speaker 3: Period likely changed. I think when you put different people

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Speaker 3: their life work. If you're kind, if you're generous, oh

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Speaker 3: You mean what they call it? Damn? And now I

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Speaker 4: Just escaped me because I know exactly what you're talking about.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely not.

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Speaker 3: The biggest Lebron white man fan would not be Lebron

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Speaker 3: Okay, five niggas so a doing that, they're not doing that.

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Speaker 3: He's black and black.

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Speaker 4: Black, black, his black wife and the black ass kids.

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Speaker 4: Right, So how did you get started?

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Speaker 3: Like, oh my goodness. Because what happened was she took

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Speaker 3: Just exactly, very DC accent, very accent. So I just

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Speaker 3: It's so funny. I remember going to see my girlfriend

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Speaker 3: And listen the one that's you know what when you

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Speaker 6: And I know.

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Speaker 3: That she on the damn floor. Uh, I said ignorange,

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Speaker 4: Child, baby, I love her.

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Speaker 3: She said child. I said, no, you didn't say. Car said,

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Speaker 4: You say what Karen was like, I am not a child.

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Speaker 3: I will see you outside about the.

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Speaker 3: She went to pieces of hell. I'd even squabble up love.

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Speaker 3: You don't want to see that, none of that. But

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Speaker 2: her voice, and attitude, I feel like that was very

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00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 2: intentional as well, because that's how y'all was able to

435
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,679
Speaker 2: reach the broad of masses and people look like me,

436
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 2: my mom and my aunt all this other stuff.

437
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 3: Like right right, right, here's the thing. I had nothing

438
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,960
Speaker 3: to do with the drawing. It was actually based on

439
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,119
Speaker 3: a woman named Sita, but s it t a She

440
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 3: drew the and I think it was just her brainchild.

441
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 3: And when she decided, you know, just like you said,

442
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 3: it was like maybe a whole group of people made

443
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 3: for this one, like, oh, we love mini skirits, so

444
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 3: we got the guy right in the short hair. I

445
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,479
Speaker 3: think there was a lot of that that went into it.

446
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,639
Speaker 3: I don't know. I spoke to her maybe twice in

447
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,680
Speaker 3: my whole life, so I don't know what the inspiration

448
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 3: behind it was. Yeah, because it didn't work at BT.

449
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 3: I don't think gird ca it's a long time ago,

450
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,159
Speaker 3: but I do know that her name was seated with

451
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 3: the nests, and I know that they loved the drawing

452
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 3: that she did and decided to make that the girl.

453
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:34,919
Speaker 3: I think it's unfortunate, though, to be tv H that

454
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 3: they did not explore the AI and the metaverse the

455
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 3: way they could have. You know what I said, It

456
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 3: was so so like now, I've done video games, right,

457
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 3: and I'm sure you know now we all know that

458
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 3: video games are done with the balls, the little dots

459
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,119
Speaker 3: that they placed all the face all over the body,

460
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 3: and that tracts your movements so that you're able to

461
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 3: move around and you become the character that you are,

462
00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,679
Speaker 3: whatever that may be. Okay, that's what they did for me.

463
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 3: But because it was so new, I literally had like

464
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 3: little clamps all over the suit that I would put on,

465
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:11,399
Speaker 3: and they had to clamp long cords to them so

466
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,959
Speaker 3: I could only move but so far on the stage

467
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 3: that they had built for me without it lit like

468
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 3: clinching exactly, because that's where we were in terms of technology,

469
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 3: like it was there, but it was so new that

470
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 3: they had like nuanced what it is that it could

471
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,919
Speaker 3: have been. You know, me and my producer baby. We

472
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 3: used to We used to pitch to them all. Steven

473
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 3: Hill was the vice president of programming at Music Programming

474
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 3: at that time, and we were constantly in his office

475
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 3: like why she don't got a dog washing? Can we

476
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,919
Speaker 3: ever go to her house? She don't live in this place?

477
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 3: Like they find set right, So I remember the set

478
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 3: where doors would open the door, what is the door?

479
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 3: What's the point of the door, and just come from

480
00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 3: the side when they don't open the day of elevator,

481
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,919
Speaker 3: that was the point of that. So there were a

482
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 3: lot of that we were dad set on incorporating to

483
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 3: make her more well rounded and again more relatable. Like

484
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 3: you said, but it costs a lot of money. I mean,

485
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,639
Speaker 3: oh my gosh, girl, we had so many we talked

486
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 3: to puff I know where it is now. But then

487
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 3: Shawn John was a vibe right the world. So we

488
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 3: wanted to give like a Seawn John outfit. We had

489
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 3: Steve Stout on on dial with speed dial because he

490
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 3: would have been rebark at the time. We was like,

491
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:33,919
Speaker 3: you know, she deserves to have on a pair of

492
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 3: rebox on a day right on a poster on a

493
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:42,199
Speaker 3: Why can I talk to the billboard? So yeah, we

494
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,120
Speaker 3: pictured ideas like that all the time. So many companies

495
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 3: wanted to partner with us and create the thing. I

496
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 3: don't know. I don't have an answer as to why

497
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 3: that work didn't work. But we listen, we had some

498
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 3: great ideas and it was.

499
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 2: A lot of miss opportunities. But then it makes sense

500
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 2: we because she was the first of AI.

501
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 3: Yes, but at the same time, what is the point

502
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 3: of having this kind of technology and this opportunity if

503
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 3: you don't push the push it right exactly. Let's go

504
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,719
Speaker 3: see what else she can do, and that show might

505
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 3: have still been on the air today. Fact, had she

506
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 3: had opportunity to create a world for herself, you know

507
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 3: what I mean, and not have it just be relegated

508
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 3: to a room you need.

509
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 2: To want to have had some kids, one of her daughters.

510
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 3: Good man, Well, at least little baby Daddy something right, Yeah,

511
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 3: Buffalo baby Daddy is to be honest, but so saying right.

512
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 2: But I think that's the reason why people gravitated towards her,

513
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 2: because she was so like, she resonated with all of us,

514
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 2: and despite where she come from and the way she's sounded,

515
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 2: she was very educated.

516
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 3: Listen, I'm so glad you recognized that absolutely, because that

517
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 3: would be the pushback that we were constantly. We gave

518
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 3: her a backstory, We fleshed her out completely, so she

519
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 3: had you were free, right. She definitely lived in a

520
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 3: neighborhood that was a little interspersed with different nationalities, different ethnicities,

521
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 3: different racists. There was not she was not a one man.

522
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 3: There's not one note. There was lots of new lay exactly,

523
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 3: and I think it's unfortunate that people weren't able to see.

524
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 3: All they heard was the way that she spoke. And

525
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 3: our whole thing was but if she spoke like this

526
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 3: and told the children you better go to school, you know,

527
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 3: better do your homework, who the hell's listen to that?

528
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 3: Kids home from school to see ce So like you

529
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:38,199
Speaker 3: hear somebody talk like them, because the message has to

530
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 3: be something that again resonates with them. They need to

531
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 3: know that this girl, this woman, it's their friend. You

532
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 3: know you're again safe. Right. It's always a matter of thinking.

533
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 3: People might not remember what you're saying, but they always.

534
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 4: Remember how make them feel.

535
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 3: And if you can create that feeling through the TV

536
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,400
Speaker 3: enough that people are like because listen, in the first

537
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 3: year it was jam Zone.

538
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 4: Now she got popular transitions go.

539
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 3: Through the Now it's a two hour show and they

540
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 3: named it after the character. I think that says a lot.

541
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 3: I really do in terms of her popularity and the

542
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 3: people that were really shit. I got Tracy, my producer,

543
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 3: and I we got interviewed by Dateline, I mean Nightline. Yeah,

544
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:26,199
Speaker 3: take take Copple. I mean, they could have done so

545
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 3: much more with it, so you know, regrets, we don't

546
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 3: have any of those, And what is the point? I mean, well,

547
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 3: we do so we can learn. But you know what

548
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 3: I mean, like I doesn't I'm not bad mouthing BT

549
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 3: by any stretch. I'm simply stating the truth, which is

550
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 3: I believe that Tracy and our ideas could have been

551
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 3: created in a way that caught up with what we're

552
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 3: doing now. You know what I mean, Like if that

553
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 3: would have come now and it's still nothing like it, Well,

554
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 3: we don't listen to the music videos and we don't

555
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 3: watch music videos the same way. But still like she

556
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 3: could have gone on to do all. She could have

557
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 3: been a talk show host, you know, yeah, all kinds of.

558
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 2: There has so many the brand and the partnerships, the

559
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 2: different platforms.

560
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 4: Cela could have had a podcast like she.

561
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 3: Mercher.

562
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 4: She could have been on tour.

563
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 3: Oh my god, would have been amazing. Yeah, they didn't

564
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 3: have that vision at the time. And again I'm not

565
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 3: really sure. I just know we definitely pitched it to them.

566
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 3: That's what we thought, more and more like how can

567
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 3: we make this grow exponentially? And they said, well, you can't,

568
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 3: no more you can.

569
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 7: So Yeah, that was that, this is the moment of truth.

570
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 7: Will our guests reveal their identity or keep it concealed?

571
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 7: The choice is yours to reveal or conceal? What will

572
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 7: it be?

573
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 3: No, I absolutely want to reveal. But I think everybody

574
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 3: that's black anyway, if you have listeners from a different,

575
00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 3: different ethnicity, different group, different, you know, white you're listening,

576
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 3: then maybe they do not, maybe they're not familiar. But yeah,

577
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 3: I think y'all know.

578
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 5: I yes, introduce yourself.

579
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 4: It us your name, your real name, where are you from?

580
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 5: Yeah?

581
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, so my real name as in my government when

582
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 3: my mama had named me. Y'all don't get to know that,

583
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 3: and all you gotta do is Google. You'll find it. Yeah,

584
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 3: But I go by Kitti Kaboom. I'm a Washington, DC

585
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 3: native born and raised.

586
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 2: I've been telling my friends about this episode because I've obviously,

587
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 2: I've been super excited, and my friend's been sending me

588
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 2: clips of Cina.

589
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 4: So I've been reading the comments and I'm just like wow, because.

590
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 2: You've been at Google who Ceda is? But a lot

591
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 2: of people do not know? I know, right, how does that?

592
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 3: People don't read too well?

593
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:01,959
Speaker 4: I can't read, but that's another conversation.

594
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 3: That's a whole nother place exactly. But the average person,

595
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 3: they're not putting up books, they're not doing anything articles.

596
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 3: They just they talk with their chest, having no knowledge

597
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 3: of the subject matter it. You know, right, this guy

598
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 3: is the best do we know? Like Izzy? Though? Izzy,

599
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 3: it's an opinion, right, and it's subjective, and that's fine

600
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 3: for y'all. Y'all don't want to read. I'm a readers

601
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 3: like to read. Intelligence is definitely a thing for me.

602
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 3: I think it's so sexy, confident, it's very much. I

603
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 3: think I'm gonna safe your sexual Okay, y'all meanskay, okay,

604
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 3: you find at chick, don't come over here dumb. Sorry,

605
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 3: I don't do dumb. That's rude. I didn't mean that,

606
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 3: people you said all the time, So okay, good. I

607
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 3: feel better about saying it, but it's still me. Uh

608
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 3: but yeah, that's why I am. I. I'm a voice actor,

609
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 3: is what I do professionally. I have a podcast that

610
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 3: I probably won't be doing too much longer because I'm

611
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 3: hearing Bali and my my partners there and the time

612
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 3: change and all of the things are not very conducive

613
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 3: to that. But yeah, that is primarily what I do.

614
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 3: I do a lot of animation, which I'm very proud

615
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 3: of Disney, Nickelodeon, The Boondocks. Everybody know about the boon Dogs,

616
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 3: everybody white folks. Yeah, I was the sweetest taboo baby

617
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 3: if you remember, was the bottom bitch for uh a pimp,

618
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 3: a bit of a pimping slip back, you know, uh

619
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 3: bottom of bit. That's his favorite girl. So yeah, she

620
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 3: cussed out Usher. Will cussed out the guy about Usher.

621
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 3: And yeah, I absolutely love, love love what I do.

622
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 3: I recently did some video games. Super excited about that. Cool,

623
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 3: I've written a book. Yeah, I mean using my voice

624
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 3: in any capacity is definitely a vibe. Like That's what

625
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 3: I love, love, love to do. Being here in Bali,

626
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 3: I'm really excited about learning the language that I can

627
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 3: become an interpreter. I'd love to have a pot out

628
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 3: there as well. Bring people on my journey from you know,

629
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 3: La to here is a thing. And as you mentioned earlier,

630
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 3: you know, a lot of us are just afraid to

631
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 3: make that move, not just to not even to move

632
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,959
Speaker 3: here for for good, but even to visit. You know,

633
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 3: it's like, oh my god, where are we going? You know,

634
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 3: it's the unknown.

635
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

636
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 3: So again, you don't read, You wouldn't know the things

637
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 3: about Holli that make it so enticing. It's just a beauty,

638
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 3: beautiful aesthetically, it's beautiful. And the people all right, it's

639
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 3: just a different situation altogether, even the people that have moved,

640
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 3: you know, and are not actually Indonesian people. You adopt

641
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 3: this way of just like kind of just going with

642
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 3: the flow, you know, and productive, but.

643
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 4: The lifestyle is way different than how.

644
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 3: A right, nobody's rushing. I mean, they have things to do,

645
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 3: and as I said, you know, deadlines are met, but

646
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 3: not with the same kind of intensity, not with the

647
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,280
Speaker 3: deadline that like loose over your head if you don't

648
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 3: do this right right.

649
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so you did a lot of acting, animations

650
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 2: and commercials.

651
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 4: What has been your favorite character and why.

652
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 3: We'll see the dost top the list, I have to say,

653
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 3: because it just has so many layers in terms of

654
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 3: what it did for me. It was my first job

655
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 3: and it kind of just blew up out of nowhere.

656
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 3: I didn't I don't think any of us expected it

657
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 3: to do so well, even though it was relegated to

658
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 3: just our community for the most part. Like when I

659
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 3: got this new agent and girl, I was like, okay,

660
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 3: so you saw seed the I've already introduced what that's

661
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 3: all about. I need you to make me white people famous,

662
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 3: not just black people.

663
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 5: White people famous.

664
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 4: Then you're at a different level exactly.

665
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 3: But you know, she didn't understand that one. She's like,

666
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 3: do you mean stream? I said, shure a call to

667
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 3: whatever you want. But you know what I mean, white folks.

668
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 3: You know, once y'all buy into it, it's actually I think,

669
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 3: so yeah, that was okay, then it's a thing. So

670
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 3: I have to say she tops the list. But I

671
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:16,439
Speaker 3: also did Tricksy if you saw. But Tricksy was on

672
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 3: American Dragon Show that did really well as well. It

673
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 3: was on for like maybe three years, I think, and

674
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 3: then they put it back on Disney. Plus. That was

675
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 3: beautiful because residuals Okay, okay, but yeah, I enjoyed doing

676
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 3: her simply because, just like you, they made me feel

677
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 3: very welcome. I remember the first time I recorded the show,

678
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 3: the director, the producer, and the writer came out of

679
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 3: the book because you know, they're we're on different side.

680
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 3: We're in the same room, but glass separates us, and

681
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 3: so you're like the opposite side exactly. But there's the

682
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 3: glass that I can see them, and they can, you know,

683
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 3: push the button and be like, just like if you

684
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 3: were singing the same thing, if you were rapping the singer.

685
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 3: So they come out and they're like, we really just

686
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 3: want to thank you did a great job. We're off

687
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 3: to a great start. We're really excited. I'm gonna you're

688
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 3: still gonna pay me right, Like what why are you

689
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 3: out here? I don't get it, And they were like,

690
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,399
Speaker 3: what do you mean? We just of course we're gonna

691
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 3: pay you, Like we just wanted to let you know

692
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 3: you're appreciated and not bad mouthing, b et, But I

693
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 3: have to speak my truth, which is I constantly felt

694
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 3: like I was supposed to be thinking them like that

695
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,760
Speaker 3: was an every day when I first got the job. Obviously,

696
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 3: I'm super grateful and I did thank them all the time,

697
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 3: but I earned this now at this point, right, like,

698
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 3: this is what I do when it seems to be

699
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 3: working out. So why do I feel like I have

700
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 3: to kiss the ring all the time?

701
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:39,879
Speaker 5: And how long? What you're doing?

702
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 3: Cea four years? Wow?

703
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 4: And I still gotta kiss the ring?

704
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 3: Listen? Okay, and like you we gonna replace it everybody,

705
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 3: And you're right, people are replaceable obviously. You know it

706
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 3: does a you know, you could have found someone else

707
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 3: in this mouth of mine. I almost got placed once

708
00:36:58,760 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 3: or twice.

709
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 2: Okay, that's my next question. Have you ever said something?

710
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 2: And he was like, oh shit, I probably shouldn't have

711
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 2: said that.

712
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 3: Oh gosh, you mean in my lifetime or in the

713
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 3: in the room class. Oh, I see the absolutely as

714
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 3: I said, I found out. I don't remember how I

715
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 3: found out. I think somebody said something to me directly

716
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 3: because they didn't know it was a secret, and they

717
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 3: were like, girl, what you wanna do? Because they out

718
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,720
Speaker 3: here again paper was a thing, so they were putting

719
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 3: up literal flyers. Right. This wasn't like let's announce it

720
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 3: on ig. This was literally walking out and telling people

721
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:35,280
Speaker 3: we're holding auditions for this new show. She's a music

722
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 3: video host. They didn't say what it was, replace you. Yes, yes,

723
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 3: this moth the mine Wow. Kept They're very grateful for growth,

724
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 3: grateful for as I said, in her work, okay, doing

725
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 3: what replace you. I didn't hear that because I just

726
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 3: I would pop off. You know, I don't think I

727
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 3: ever thought that. I in fact, I know I've never

728
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 3: gotten to a place where I thought like I'm in

729
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 3: charge or I'm a big deal. I just think that

730
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 3: I got a little too comfortable, I'll say that, a

731
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 3: little too comfortable in the role, a little too like

732
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 3: I nigga, like you mean, like I just very pushed back,

733
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 3: very aggressive. I mean, and that's always who I was

734
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 3: at that time. That's who I was. So it wasn't

735
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 3: bringing a new energy as in like I'm a big deal,

736
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 3: so you have to do what I air or whatever.

737
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 3: It was literally just an extension of who I already was.

738
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 3: And I just did not recognize that there are people.

739
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 3: This is a team effort. This is not all about you, okay,

740
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 3: And I need you to not only do you need

741
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 3: to calm it down, you probably need to do some bakings.

742
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 3: You need to walk around and appreciate the people that

743
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 3: are actually making this come to fruition.

744
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, but I was gonna say, I feel

745
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 2: like if they probably would have received your ideas and

746
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 2: tracy ideas and at least try, maybe you wouldn't give

747
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 2: them so much push back.

748
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 3: Well, again, I think that I was that person at

749
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 3: the time, you know what I mean. So I probably

750
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 3: still had a little spicy mouthwaoming, But I do think, yeah,

751
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 3: it would have been a lot easier to work with

752
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 3: everybody had we had the opportunity to explore all the

753
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 3: options that we that were presented to us. Quite honestly,

754
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 3: people were pitching to us left and right. Bro, they

755
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 3: wanted so.

756
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 4: Much money left on the table, so.

757
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 3: Much money that they left on the table. Yeah, I

758
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,720
Speaker 3: think it was I'm not gonna say it was Stephen

759
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 3: Hill's ego, but I think it was a b et

760
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 3: ego thing. Yeah, you know what I mean, we know

761
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 3: best what's for the show. Again, going back to the execs,

762
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 3: thinking that they know more than the actual people that

763
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 3: are putting this thing together hands on, you know, on

764
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 3: a daily basis, Like that was definitely my greatest job.

765
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 3: It was a good check at the time, and I

766
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 3: know that check was cute maybe, and we were quite

767
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 3: a week, you know. I come in one day, we write,

768
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 3: I come in another day, we shoot and that was it.

769
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 3: And we we were doing like that. We would do

770
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 3: like girl like morning the nighttime, talking about eight in

771
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 3: the morning, call time, wrapping at like nine and not

772
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 3: well maybe not that, like maybe like six in the evening.

773
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 3: It was an all day think for sure. So by

774
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 3: the end of the day I was exhausted. But I

775
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,879
Speaker 3: mean we you know, so it definitely was worth it.

776
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 2: How do you think Cita would have been received in

777
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 2: social media? Because social media wasn't out during that time,

778
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 2: So how do you think she was, Like, how do

779
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 2: you think black Twitter or Instagram or TikTok would have

780
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 2: received her?

781
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 3: Stephen Hill, No, Cita, Oh Cita. Oh my gosh. I'm

782
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 3: gonna tell you this little anecdote and I think this

783
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 3: will speak to hopefully this will answer your question. When

784
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 3: we were in COVID twenty twenty, the BET Awards were

785
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 3: fastly approaching. I do not know this man, but he

786
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 3: started a basically a campaign that said, how dare y'all

787
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 3: go virtual and not have sea like y'all just disrespectful

788
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 3: at this point, you're playing in our face.

789
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 4: We want to think about that, right, So.

790
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 3: It went out to the masses and everybody was weighing in.

791
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 3: Lots of people did not want that to happen. They

792
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 3: do not like see that, which is their right to

793
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 3: feel their fields. But a lot more people did want

794
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 3: it to happen and were a part of the petition.

795
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 3: So it had been like read what the hell is

796
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 3: it called? Retweeted over one hundred thousand times. Everybody got involved,

797
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:38,760
Speaker 3: like it was a bit. It was like a movement

798
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 3: to the point where my proud baby ass was in tears,

799
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 3: like this is really a thing. Like even if they

800
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 3: bt decides to decline the offer if you will, or

801
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 3: the suggestion, it's still feeling my heart to just think

802
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 3: that people, especially whom I've never met, these men that

803
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 3: began it to begin with, I don't know these people.

804
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 3: They don't have time, but they're fighting for me.

805
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 6: Girl.

806
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 3: They out of here. They they doing it. So yeah,

807
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 3: that was pretty amazing. So to answer your question, I

808
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 3: feel like it would be a whole mood. I really really.

809
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:14,959
Speaker 3: I just think see there would be because think about

810
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 3: the possibilities. Oh my gosh, have a YouTube show it

811
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 3: wouldn't even need you know, YouTube is making a big

812
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 3: like watching any more. The kids are not watching Netflix, baby,

813
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 3: The kids are watching YouTube, period, am I right?

814
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 4: So I even watch YouTube then, like I love YouTube.

815
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 6: We go see imagine how far she could have gone

816
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 6: in these different lanes, Like she really could have you know,

817
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 6: again back to the merge and the movie and the

818
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 6: as you said on tour, you know, if you had

819
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:51,439
Speaker 6: the right equipment, she could be in Japan doing her thing.

820
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 3: There's no reason to watch or Bali you know.

821
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I see the twenty years later.

822
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 3: Oh my god, amazing.

823
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,479
Speaker 2: Right, So, speaking of the backlash, how did you feel

824
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 2: that people felt like Cela was like too ghetto or

825
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 2: too loud? Like do you feel like people felt like

826
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 2: that because she was also black?

827
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean absolutely. I don't know too many

828
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 3: Well I about say, I don't know too many white yet.

829
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 3: That's ridiculous, of course we do. We just call them

830
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 3: trading trash or right, you know, they just ran next right,

831
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 3: we know them, well me just like they just like, okay,

832
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 3: how about a day you her who is now like

833
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 3: a millionaire or some craziness. Anyway, Yeah, the backlash at

834
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 3: the time, I think it hurt my feelings a little

835
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 3: bit because I was way more sensitive if you can imagine,

836
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 3: because I'm a fry baby now as well. Such an impact,

837
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 3: But it didn't affect me in a way. It ain't

838
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 3: stop nothing, you know what I mean, because I knew

839
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 3: that I still had a majority of people that did

840
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 3: enjoy her and look forward to seeing her, and the

841
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 3: show was still successful that it didn't like take me

842
00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:00,720
Speaker 3: out or have me crying and stuff. But it also

843
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 3: wasn't what it is now, as we said, right, it

844
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 3: wasn't like all day every day, all day every day

845
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 3: we would hear people, we would hear rumors, we would

846
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 3: hear rumblings of it, whispers, and then we would get

847
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 3: letters because you know, this was when letters written, bags

848
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 3: and bags of letters. Remember that was a segment. We

849
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 3: would read a letter at the show and shout out

850
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 3: the person that wrote it. Everybody need MoMA was like,

851
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 3: you will say my name, oh my god, you want

852
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:27,800
Speaker 3: to show the show, And I'd be like, why is

853
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 3: this a big deal? Again, not really understanding the levity

854
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 3: right or the bigness of it all. So yeah, I

855
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 3: think that at the time I took it in and

856
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 3: it hurt a little bit, but our buddle every time

857
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 3: was you just don't get it. There's no way that

858
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 3: these children, or not even that the audience would be

859
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,760
Speaker 3: able or willing, I should say to watch this program

860
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 3: if she was not speaking their language. That's not to

861
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 3: say everybody out there is ghetto. It's to say that

862
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:04,919
Speaker 3: black folks has a specific language, a specific way of communicating. Yeah,

863
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 3: it's universal, right, and even when it's not understood by

864
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 3: white folks, there's still a level of respect there because

865
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 3: you know, the numbers or the attention being made to it.

866
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 3: At the time, it hurt, but it wasn't anywhere near

867
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 3: what it could have been. Like I just keep thinking

868
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 3: about you know, TikTok and Twitter and all the things

869
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 3: that they would say today. I think it might crush Yeah,

870
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 3: it might have crushed me. Oh yeah, you know, not

871
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 3: just once a week like girls they just calling her

872
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 3: a dumb ass beach, Like why would they say that?

873
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 3: You know, it would be a lot.

874
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 2: But I think gen Z would appreciate see that, because

875
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 2: gen Z telling like how that is I don't play.

876
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 3: Huh no cut cars baby, okay, And they know how

877
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 3: they know how to galvanize. They know how to come

878
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 3: together and find a movement. Right when they were talking

879
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 3: about the you know, the the global warming is not

880
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 3: a thing them things was sanging. Okay, they came together,

881
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 3: were born in Washington, d C. On the floor of

882
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 3: the freaking not the White House. They went to the

883
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 3: Capitol and we're like, nah, y'all not about to do this.

884
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 3: We weird, it's our generating. We have to deal with

885
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 3: your messes. And I just thought that was so honorable

886
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 3: and so amazing, Like who knew?

887
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, were they discussions with BT where they feel like

888
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 2: they tried to like soften or tone her down.

889
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 3: I think the only time that happened is when Debbie

890
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 3: what was Debbie's last name, the woman that deboraally was

891
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:40,320
Speaker 3: put in charge, you know, she took over for mister Johnson.

892
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 3: She didn't like to see that at all, and I'm

893
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 3: pretty sure that's why we got canceled. She felt that

894
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 3: it did exactly what the naysayer said it did, which

895
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,399
Speaker 3: was to give BT a put us in a bad light,

896
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 3: and it it publicized or created propaganda about black people

897
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 3: and how we communicate that was not induced to what

898
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 3: she wanted the message of BT to be. She felt

899
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 3: that it was okay because she's ascute, So she was like,

900
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 3: what is this? We can't right. I've never had a

901
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 3: conversation with her, so I don't know that that's the case.

902
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 3: And even if I did, I believe that she's how

903
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 3: should we say professional enough that she would not have said,

904
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 3: you know, I really don't care for your show. I

905
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 3: don't think she just said that because she the you know,

906
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 3: the politics of it all. But that's what I heard

907
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 3: that she didn't like it, and that's why we went

908
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 3: down because the numbers never faltered like we weren't. There

909
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 3: was nothing that said that we should be cut. It

910
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 3: was literally just a matter of opinion and her I

911
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 3: don't like it, so we got to do.

912
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 4: I don't remember how Sitah ended, but didn't get a

913
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 4: proper sin off.

914
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 3: But that's kind of is that not entertainment? Somebody's on

915
00:47:56,560 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 3: the radio today, and yeah, I mean Williams had Wendy

916
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 3: Wilions experience for how long? Puffy jumped out there and

917
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 3: stays she called me gay? She said, I'm gay. Fuck her,

918
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 3: get her off the air, which, of course, now we

919
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 3: know you do like dingling, and that's her right. Get

920
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 3: the old click you get all the giggling you want

921
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 3: right about now? Can you imagine to see that? Baby?

922
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 3: That would be talk. We had a whole segment.

923
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:24,800
Speaker 4: I have a segment, baby, I got a question for it.

924
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 4: But we're gonna get there.

925
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 5: We're almost there.

926
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, again that's what I heard, you know, but

927
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 3: again she was on the air and then now she's

928
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 3: in Philly. Niggas was like, what happened? Happened? For the

929
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 3: reasoning how it works, there's no like so I'm leaving

930
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 3: the station and most of the time they don't even

931
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 3: know until the day before. That's the hosts or you know,

932
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 3: the radio personalities. Yeah, they don't even know until they do, right,

933
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 3: that's yeah. The only reason I knew is because I

934
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 3: reached out to my attorney about something else. He was like, yeah,

935
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 3: so I just got a fact how long ago that

936
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 3: the fact that said that you're getting two more checks

937
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 3: and this is the end of an error. And I

938
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 3: was like, wait, what's happening.

939
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 4: After four years?

940
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:15,240
Speaker 3: Girl?

941
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:18,919
Speaker 4: And that's what it's like picking up Like if we posted.

942
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 3: The numbers, our numbers were never the issue. I know

943
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 3: that for a fact. Chris Tracy was on top of that,

944
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 3: and she made sure that she watched that in an

945
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 3: attempt to better us, you know, to take the flack

946
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 3: and make adjustments and changes, you know, according to what

947
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 3: the feedback was or what we were able to do,

948
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 3: what they allowed us to do. Right. She was definitely

949
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 3: hands on producer. It's so good at her job, amazing,

950
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 3: but it did not match her darling. I wasn't able

951
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 3: to finesse it into something greater. I think that's what

952
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 3: probably bothered me the most about it. I felt like, Okay,

953
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 3: if she's at this level of success, shouldn't I be

954
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 3: able to you know, create something else or have an

955
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 3: agent and or manager that can see a vision as

956
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,240
Speaker 3: to what this might look like like in a different space,

957
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 3: even if you know, a motion capture was not a

958
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 3: thing background really because they didn't know about it. Shouldn't

959
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 3: this be able to cannot be like a voiceover of

960
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 3: my own show. Shouldn't somebody write you know? And again,

961
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 3: I didn't know how to move that needle forward on

962
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 3: my own, you know. In my defense, so had I

963
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:27,959
Speaker 3: known then what I know now, I would have wrote

964
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 3: a show. I would have gotten a meeting with you know,

965
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 3: maybe not a Disney, but you know, some streaming service

966
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 3: that would enjoy, you know, having us on board and

967
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 3: creating a different subject matter obviously because music videos are

968
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 3: no longer, but something that made sense for the masses.

969
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 3: Are you kidding me?

970
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 6: Yeah?

971
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 3: I produced my own stuff. I'm directing my own animated

972
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 3: short right now in a with in conjunction with the

973
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 3: co Op program at Pixar. Super excited about that. Oh nice, congratulations,

974
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 3: that's time shout out to my feet. They're amazing. So

975
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 3: yeah that I just think it's unfortunate that it just stopped,

976
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 3: and then everything stopped, you know, and I lived in

977
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 3: la I didn't even I had never even visited there.

978
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 3: Kind of like Polly decided to go, Well, they decided

979
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 3: that they were going to send us, right and so yeah,

980
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 3: an agent. But again they didn't see the vision. They

981
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 3: didn't even understand see it because they're in a different world.

982
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 3: These white folks don't know what that is. So even

983
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 3: introducing them and telling them the numbers and the momentum

984
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 3: and all of the things that I think they respected

985
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 3: in it because they brought me on board, put me

986
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 3: on their roster, but I don't think that they understood it.

987
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 3: You know.

988
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 2: So if VNC was to approach you and they were like, listen,

989
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:41,919
Speaker 2: let's just revive see the world.

990
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 5: Would you do it?

991
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,399
Speaker 3: I think I would do it because it would be

992
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 3: a steady check, right and as a freelancer, that's what

993
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 3: we always hope for, doing something that we love to

994
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 3: do while making money doing it, right. So I think

995
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 3: I've opened to it. You know, it would depends. Yeah,

996
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 3: I would definitely explore it. I wouldn't turn them down immediately. Why,

997
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? It's something that especially if

998
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 3: they allowed me to be an integral part of it

999
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 3: more than just the host. Am I helping to write it?

1000
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 3: Am I helping to produce it? You know? I don't

1001
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 3: need to direct it, but producing writing I need to be.

1002
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,319
Speaker 3: I need to wear those hats as well. And they

1003
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 3: did do like a little baby Reo.

1004
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, did she? Did she come back?

1005
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 5: But what was up with that?

1006
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 3: There was a show called did I forget the name

1007
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 3: of the show?

1008
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 4: That's how you know?

1009
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:40,879
Speaker 3: Right? It was once Sea. They had Nibya. They had

1010
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,879
Speaker 3: those twin sisters that are that The very first show

1011
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 3: they was telling girls, Oh we're millionaires. Okay, anyway, the

1012
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 3: twins they had Nibia, They had. Who else was it? Oh,

1013
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 3: the young lady from God DRN. I can't remember anything

1014
00:52:54,960 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 3: right now? Hello, Hello, it's going to her husband, Bobby Brown.

1015
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 3: What's the name of that group?

1016
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 4: Oh uh mean condition.

1017
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 3: Condition Bobby Brown? Babe.

1018
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no no new addition,

1019
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 2: were both from here.

1020
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 3: I'm not the only have a little brain parts? Okay,

1021
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 3: So was a condition that right, the light skendidate one.

1022
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 4: Because his his wife was on that TV show.

1023
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 3: That's the show I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and

1024
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 3: they had as like she would like pop in and

1025
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 3: out to give them what the next thing was that

1026
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 3: they had to do, or what the next challenge was

1027
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 3: that they needed to be aware of or what you know,

1028
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 3: Make sure you're ready tomorrow because the stylist is going

1029
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 3: to come and have y'all been practicing again? Underutilized? Have

1030
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 3: you ever seen the show The Circle?

1031
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 4: Mm hmm heard the show?

1032
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 3: Okay, So it's a reality show. They put people in

1033
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:56,319
Speaker 3: these apartment buildings, all in the same actual building. They

1034
00:53:56,320 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 3: have no electronic anything, but they are being filmed twenty

1035
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 3: four hours and the Circle is what shows up on

1036
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 3: their TV to tell them what to do, and they

1037
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 3: do challenges and situations, and they all buy for top

1038
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:13,359
Speaker 3: spot for the right excuse me, and some of them

1039
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 3: can be catfish. You don't have to go in as Ebaney.

1040
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 3: Maybe you pretend that you're your brother because you know

1041
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 3: him so well, and you speak to everybody in the

1042
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 3: little chat that they create as your brother. Okay, So

1043
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 3: with that said, the host that's never seen all she

1044
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 3: does is vo but it's so well done. Is that

1045
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 3: Michelle woman. She's kind of curvy, she's a she's a

1046
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 3: very successful actress right now, but she started doing doing

1047
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 3: stand up. God darn it, I can't remember.

1048
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 4: No, Oh Michelle, she's like skinned bo.

1049
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 3: Yes, he likes yes, girl, she likes skin to do. Yeah.

1050
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 3: She does the v and it's so well done. And

1051
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 3: I don't know if she writes it, but maybe. Again,

1052
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,840
Speaker 3: she's a comedian, so she'll say things like you know

1053
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:00,359
Speaker 3: the guys in there, like, oh, I know I'm winning

1054
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 3: this one. You know what I'm saying. You can't tell

1055
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 3: me nothing, And then she'll be like, Okay, might be

1056
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 3: a little premature, but if you say so, baby, like

1057
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 3: you know, I love that. And there was a chance

1058
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 3: for them to do that with Sita in this space,

1059
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 3: and they chose not to once again. You know, all

1060
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:17,319
Speaker 3: they had her do was show up every blue moon

1061
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:20,320
Speaker 3: and say what she said. There was no interaction. You know,

1062
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 3: I dope. That would be if I could actually Tita

1063
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 3: could go and sit on couch with the girls, if

1064
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 3: she could come up, you know, they come down for

1065
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 3: breakfast in the morning. I got you bag you. I

1066
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 3: already got the pancakes popping. What's your drinking coffee and tea?

1067
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 3: What we're doing, what we're doing, oints, stoot, what you need?

1068
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 3: That could have been anyway. Again, there was lots of

1069
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 3: talk about doing this or that, and nothing came to it.

1070
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, can you pitch your own show?

1071
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 3: You have to actually get what's called the general or

1072
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 3: actually they have specific meetings, but a general just means like,

1073
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:55,280
Speaker 3: this is our talent. We think she can do many things.

1074
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 3: Let's have a meeting with the execs of this particular

1075
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 3: streaming channel or YouTube I guess, or you know, whatever

1076
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 3: the business is, and let her pitch herself. And then

1077
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 3: you guys say, yeah, we think she's dope too. Let's

1078
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 3: create something together.

1079
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 4: Because I really do that Cina has a chance.

1080
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 3: I do well. Again, I'm not at a level where

1081
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 3: I can just call up my agent and be like, well,

1082
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 3: I mean I'm at a level work called my agent.

1083
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:24,319
Speaker 3: I'm not at a level where I can directly, you know,

1084
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 3: reach out to them and say this is what I

1085
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 3: want to do. And I told you soon as I

1086
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:30,720
Speaker 3: signed with my current agent, that is what I said.

1087
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 3: Make me white famous and yeah.

1088
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 2: Yes, well listen from your amounts of guy's ears happen,

1089
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 2: yeah yeah, yeah, now and Seina's voice. If she would

1090
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 2: make a comeback today, what do you think she would

1091
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 2: have to say about the following topics?

1092
00:56:49,840 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 3: It's fun, yeah, diddy, this nigga play too much, Like

1093
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 3: why in the hell would you be a rico all

1094
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 3: by yourself? Niggas like all by like you dead ass

1095
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 3: was thirty years you is thirty years in of just

1096
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 3: torturing people, girls, boys, children. Shit. I wouldn't be surprised

1097
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 3: if they said the little dogg he came by and

1098
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 3: he said, give me some of that, give me, give

1099
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 3: me that ass, give you that as a little bitch.

1100
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 3: Come on a little bit like he really don't got

1101
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 3: no cock cards, Like he really just be like, Hey,

1102
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 3: I love sex so much, I gotta do illegal ship

1103
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 3: to make myself, make my shit come like God can't

1104
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 3: even get hard less. I'm treating people bad, Like what

1105
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 3: is happening? Cham When is the fuck is going on?

1106
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 3: All the thing I know for sure? One thing for

1107
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 3: you too, for certain, that ain't never getting out ever, ever, ever,

1108
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 3: ever either. And if you do, i'm'na be real surprised.

1109
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 3: Because Epstein's and the Wine scenes they in there for

1110
00:57:57,120 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 3: life too, because they turned human beings as well. That

1111
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 3: Nigga is evilill, Okay, he is evil, And if it

1112
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 3: was up to me, I would be sitting front row

1113
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 3: in sensor telling that motherfucker you ain't never coming home.

1114
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 3: And you want it now, you get all the all

1115
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 3: the little bussy that you want. That's what it is.

1116
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 3: A butt pussy. I gonna get you some butt pussy boot.

1117
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 5: Oh the butts okay.

1118
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 3: Kamala Harris, Oh, y'all know how my heart beat, palpatite,

1119
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 3: y'all know how I be. I'll begin into eggs. So

1120
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 3: when she got in a mix and everybody was behind her,

1121
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 3: white man for Kamala, the mother akas for Kamala, everybody

1122
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 3: had a little group talk about we fucks with her,

1123
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 3: only to turn around and y'all you know what's real pattitude.

1124
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 3: It ain't even about like, oh they love Trump. I

1125
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 3: had heard they don't fuck with Trump either, but they

1126
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 3: fuck with that nigga enough that they don't fuck with

1127
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 3: a black an Indian woman. And that is a turn.

1128
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 3: That is So you're gonna tell me, you're gonna pick

1129
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 3: that man who ain't nothing but evenil himself, pure deep,

1130
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 3: and he ain't even lie to nobody. He sights it

1131
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 3: up and say I'm gonna do this, and then doth

1132
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 3: know he told y'all shaft that man on a campaign trail,

1133
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 3: mimbicking blowjob? What the fuck? Type? This what we live at,

1134
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 3: This what we do when we get here. Okay, so

1135
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 3: that is my heart right for you or whatever? Like

1136
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 3: I wish I could just come a hug you like girl,

1137
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 3: you ain't deserve that, girl, because you was the bomb,

1138
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 3: and we already know our country. I'm gonna be doing

1139
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 3: so much to better if you was funning it. You

1140
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. I believed it in you, in you.

1141
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 3: Everybody did. But I just think, you know, middle of

1142
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 3: America said we're ignorant, we don't read books, we don't

1143
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 3: know about all that black Indian ship. We just know

1144
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 3: she a woman and she got all them different and

1145
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 3: every time we see her, she laughed saying, fuck it's

1146
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 3: so funny. So we ain't woting for her. Fuck her.

1147
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 3: So I would just say to Kamela, girl, come on

1148
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 3: over here. I'm gonna make you some fried chicken. You

1149
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. Since they say we black and

1150
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 3: black black and we you know, get over there. I'm

1151
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 3: gonna havesk some watermelon for the dessert. Fucket, some sweet tea.

1152
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 3: Get you some mop fucking greens like my mama make them.

1153
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 3: It makes us feel better. It'll always makes you feel

1154
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 3: better when you eat that comfort food. So come through.

1155
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 2: I got you, and last but not least, because we

1156
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 2: know you never liked him because of his music.

1157
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 4: Nellie's spinning the block with his shunte.

1158
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 3: No with that way, I ain't gonna hold you sorry.

1159
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 3: I mean it was good about that. A part of

1160
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 3: me be like, girl, you carefool. I'm saying, keep one

1161
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 3: eye open cause I don't know you. I ain't ever

1162
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 3: met you or nothing, but I heard you a good girl.

1163
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 3: You always got a smile on your face. You look

1164
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 3: like you're sweet tea. And before you got back all

1165
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 3: up in the news. All I ever heard was you

1166
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 3: look and find this fuck in this building in this

1167
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 3: part of the world, and then you vacationing in that

1168
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 3: part of the world. Okay. So I don't know if

1169
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 3: you were still singing and doing your thing, because the

1170
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 3: thing things, the thing, you know, but I know you

1171
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:14,200
Speaker 3: was loving life, Okay. So if this nigga made come

1172
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 3: back to you and you were feeling it enough to

1173
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 3: entertain and have a baby getting married, all that, I

1174
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 3: just because that that main. I mean, he just got

1175
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 3: charged with some other sucking drugs. That nigga doing extasy.

1176
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 3: See who the fuck is still doing maley nigga? That

1177
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 3: shit is corny and you're like, what smoke a blunt

1178
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 3: and be happy? Like, I don't get it. All I'm

1179
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 3: saying is I'm happy for them if they happy they

1180
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 3: had a baby and all that. That thing waited forty

1181
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 3: years old to have a baby. Who's mad. I'm not

1182
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 3: mad it nothing, the fact that's a thing baby. She

1183
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 3: waited and I guess she felt like this was the

1184
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 3: right time or whatever, and maybe he instant we are

1185
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 3: But I tell you what, thing, this is what I

1186
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 3: love When they show pictures of Nelly with his baying

1187
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 3: my ass when they show pictures and Nellie and he'd

1188
01:01:57,600 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 3: be with the current girlfriend chair. He'd be looking like

1189
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:02,920
Speaker 3: a like you don't want to get there, like somebody

1190
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 3: has said, and you got to stand next to this girl.

1191
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 3: You got this your girlfriend that could get into it.

1192
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 5: He'd be happy as hell with a shanty.

1193
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 3: Bad that that I just wide open. That's right, shock

1194
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 3: nothing but baby Okay, he listen, barely, be smiling so

1195
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 3: hard you can see the little thing dangling in the

1196
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 3: back of I said, truth, you know what I mean.

1197
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 3: He's happy for that for real, for real, I mean,

1198
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 3: I mean.

1199
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 5: You're not kiddy.

1200
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 2: This has been a treat like you have made my year.

1201
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 2: Like seriously, I really appreciate you.

1202
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 3: Oh, I appreciate your blessing. He have this kind of

1203
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 3: communication and it's obviously this vibe, you know what I mean,

1204
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 3: Like we I get it. I feel it. I feel

1205
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 3: the love.

1206
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 4: So say me too, me too.

1207
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 2: Tell everybody where they can follow you, at where they

1208
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 2: can reach you, at the new shows. We can support

1209
01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 2: you at.

1210
01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:00,120
Speaker 3: Oh, thank you well. I have not posted in a

1211
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 3: long time. Yes, right, show niggers, because I am BALI

1212
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 3: So I really wanted to document this trip, and I

1213
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 3: really wanted to show case the whole move and what

1214
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 3: that looks like. And I ain't gonna hold you. I'm

1215
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 3: not an editor, okay, so it's taking me a little

1216
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 3: longer to edit these videos so they can be professional,

1217
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:25,080
Speaker 3: and I just throw them at you. Yes, I'm about

1218
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 3: to listen, That's exactly what I'm about to do. And

1219
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 3: I'm university teaching myself as well. And I met a

1220
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 3: couple of black women out here who are doing the

1221
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 3: same thing, and I love it all doing the same

1222
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 3: thing but in a different way, you know what I mean.

1223
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 3: Like one of the girls is just she's very poised.

1224
01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 3: Her brand is to sit on a couch with a

1225
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 3: cup of tea and tell you about the best places

1226
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 3: to eat and baldly and tell you about whatever. You

1227
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like it's a whole vibe. Listen, guys,

1228
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 3: this is a great place to come. If you come

1229
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 3: to Bali, you gotta come to the sunrise. Like that's

1230
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 3: her thing, and I love it for her. But I'm

1231
01:03:56,080 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 3: gonna be me, so I beat to the other people.

1232
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 3: I did the other day. I lost my damn debit card. Girl.

1233
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 3: The blasting is nobody found it and used it. They

1234
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 3: don't be doing shisty shit. I mean, people are people,

1235
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:12,959
Speaker 3: but it's not.

1236
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 4: It's not safe the states, right.

1237
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 3: So with that said, I had to figure it out obviously,

1238
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 3: and then USPS. They can't ship stuff here, like my

1239
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 3: bank couldn't just send it directly to me. So I

1240
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 3: just sended my friend. My girlfriend, she had to expedition.

1241
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 3: It was the whole thing. My point is I had

1242
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:35,520
Speaker 3: money and couldn't get to it. Can you imagine I

1243
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:38,240
Speaker 3: woke up recognizing that that was my day and what

1244
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:39,720
Speaker 3: I was going to have to get into in order

1245
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 3: to try to rectify this. I had on a bonnet,

1246
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 3: I had on my little imasked with the hello Kitty thing.

1247
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 3: I'm sending it crying on a camera because I believe

1248
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 3: that I'm not saying that she's doing quite well. She's

1249
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 3: monetized that it's doing great, and I'm sure other people

1250
01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 3: are as well. But I know for me, I didn't

1251
01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 3: want I felt like that would be an extra layer.

1252
01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 3: It is the rightest ript you know what I mean.

1253
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 3: I just keep it a buck. I just be like, girl,

1254
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 3: this restaurant, you got it. If you come to body

1255
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 3: bitch and you don't come here. You don't, you know

1256
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:09,600
Speaker 3: what I mean?

1257
01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 2: Like, but I think that's why people love you so much,

1258
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:14,800
Speaker 2: because I because like I feel your energy, like I

1259
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:15,960
Speaker 2: know this is you.

1260
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:18,480
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying exactly, it's.

1261
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 3: Very authentic that I will say. I don't really know

1262
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 3: how to you know, lie to kick it. I just don't.

1263
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:26,480
Speaker 3: And again, I just want to reiterate, I'm not suggesting

1264
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 3: that anybody else is. That brand is just different. You

1265
01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 3: know what I mean, we are you had a good

1266
01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 3: old time and we were you know, us and wild

1267
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 3: and crazy and all the things. But for her brand,

1268
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:39,480
Speaker 3: she feels more comfortable creating it in such a way

1269
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:42,280
Speaker 3: that it's very much giving it. This is Christmas and bally,

1270
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 3: tune in to see what you just look like where like,

1271
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 3: what's going on? I got a Christmas tree out here. Body,

1272
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 3: it's you know, it's melty because it's hot to tell

1273
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 3: or whatever, you know, but I like the off the cuff.

1274
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 5: But don't tell us what.

1275
01:05:57,280 --> 01:05:58,680
Speaker 4: We can follow you as stuff even though you're not

1276
01:05:58,720 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 4: posting like that.

1277
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 3: I mean, right, I'm so busy. I got to it's

1278
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 3: kitty kaboom k I t t I E know why

1279
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:10,880
Speaker 3: because I'm different. Yes, I'm different and kaboom k A

1280
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 3: b o O M on everything on Facebook, on ig

1281
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 3: on tourdal on tiktoking all of them, kitty kaboom. That's

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Speaker 3: where we're at it. So yeah, follow me. I haven't

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Speaker 3: been doing a lot in the biz other than what

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Speaker 3: I shared with you about Pixar. Yeah, super excited about it.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, I'm still doing audition so who knows it

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Speaker 3: might come to fruition, but yeah, this move has taken

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Speaker 3: a lot of my energy and time and focus. So

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Speaker 3: that's what I've been doing. And again I've been recording y'all.

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Speaker 3: So I said the fifteenth is when I'm going to

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Speaker 3: pop out and shook noodles, which is less than two

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Speaker 3: weeks away, So come get together showing y'all with this

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Speaker 3: whole thing is.

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Speaker 2: About because I'm excited for you and definitely keep me

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Speaker 2: posted and I can share and support you.

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Speaker 4: But I'm so happy that we were able to make

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Speaker 4: this happen like this looks like everything.

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Speaker 5: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: Make sure y'all follow her, make sure y'all support her,

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Speaker 2: and we will be waiting on the fifteenth and happy

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Speaker 2: early birthday, by the way.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much. I'm gonna ride the elephants. Girl.

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Speaker 3: You know that I'm gonna ride the elephants. I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: get a tattoo of a Buddha. What else I'm gonna do?

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Speaker 3: Definitely eat good? Oh in my spa dayna have a

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Speaker 3: spa day, baby. Yeah, okay, the sun said, I got

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Speaker 3: some ideas. Oh and I definitely want to be in

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Speaker 3: that pool where they spell off your name with the fower. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And to the listeners, if you have any questions coming

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Speaker 2: to concerns, please make sure to email me at hello

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Speaker 2: at the PHG.

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Speaker 4: Podcast dot com.

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Speaker 2: And until next time, everyone, kitty, come bool, ladies and jam.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much every day it has been nothing

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Speaker 3: so pleasure. I appreciate you.

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Speaker 5: Oh, thank you, thank you, thank you.

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