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Speaker 1: Walk up to NFL Daily where the start of the

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Speaker 1: new league year means we're getting drunk tonight. I'm in

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Speaker 1: the Chris Westling podcast studio. My friend Nick Shook is

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Speaker 1: in Ohio, probably not getting drunk, but maybe get a

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Speaker 2: Shooky. What do you got going on in Cleveland?

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's a Wednesday, Greg, My god, it is

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Speaker 3: Saint Patrick's Day weekend in Cleveland, and Eveland loves to

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Speaker 4: So I'll get out and about and get after it

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Speaker 4: on Saturday for sure.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, there isn't really the celebration when it comes

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Speaker 1: to the new league year. And frankly, you know, we

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Speaker 1: got you know, some sound here. It's not what it

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Speaker 1: used to be because so many teams are are just

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Speaker 1: pouring over my top one oh one that like all

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Speaker 1: the good free agents are gone by now.

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Speaker 2: I'm just got to give an update.

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Speaker 1: We're taping this East Coast time Wednesday night. As of

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Speaker 1: this taping, there's only one player left from the top

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Speaker 1: twenty five, Shook. There is only seven from the top fifty.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, Sante Samuel Junior, for instance, is the second

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Speaker 1: highest player on my board. I think I might have

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Speaker 1: ranked him too high you have regrets. He's at twenty one.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers will be added to the mix for whatever reason.

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Speaker 1: The Jets still haven't cut him, but he's going into

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Speaker 1: More on him a little later. Seven in the top

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Speaker 1: second half of the list has absolutely been decimated.

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Speaker 2: And yes, the new league year started.

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Speaker 1: That means official signings, trades, all that stuff could officially

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Speaker 1: be processed. And we're going to get you up to date.

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Speaker 1: It's a meet in Potatoes type of show. SHOOKI we're

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Speaker 1: meet in Potatoes week for a guy who who's kind.

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Speaker 2: Of a meat and potatoes guy.

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Speaker 3: Frankly, I'm a big pot ROAs guy, was raised on

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Speaker 2: Right up, my.

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Speaker 1: Aley, Meet Loaf has got a bad buzz for a while.

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Speaker 1: I feel like and Meet Loaf is coming back. I'm

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Speaker 4: As long as it's not too dry.

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Speaker 1: Let's go with what I think is the most interesting

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Speaker 2: This came late Tuesday night.

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Speaker 1: Joey Bosa is joining the Bills for twelve million dollars

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Speaker 1: guaranteed twelve point six to be exact. There's some incentives there,

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Speaker 1: you know. When this news came across, I was very

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Speaker 1: they were, but the Bills came over the top, and

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Speaker 1: I just wonder, why do they expect that Joey Bosa

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you're talking about health and availability, you

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Speaker 3: shouldn't have much of a difference in expectation because Von

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Speaker 3: Miller wasn't available half the time. Joey Bosa has struggled

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Speaker 4: It seems to be their strategy, right.

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Speaker 1: He has played a total of one thousand snaps in

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Speaker 1: the last three years, so that's an average. Do the

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's nothing.

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Speaker 1: And last year it was the year he actually played

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Speaker 3: I mean, even the trade that they have that we'll

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Speaker 4: So kind of a weird position for them as a team.

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Speaker 3: They got better defensively last year, but personnel wise, they

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's they're just taking a shot and

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Speaker 1: They re signed Damar Hamlin for on a one year deal.

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Speaker 1: No terms available, but it's just good that he'll still

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Speaker 2: And man, this one hurts.

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Speaker 1: I don't kill the Cowboys for not paying all this

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Speaker 1: of the things that happens when you don't manage the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, when I looked at the Sal's death chart, I

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Speaker 3: I think it was a case of him playing three

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Speaker 3: already got a look at what we might be facing

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Speaker 3: in the future. Why not dedicate that elsewhere. I know

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Speaker 2: It's great money.

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Speaker 1: And yet I do wonder if the Seahawks would have

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Speaker 1: And it's a typical Seahawks move. They just don't spend

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Speaker 1: To win with defense, and I guess that's one way

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, writing up the Lawrence post today, I

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Speaker 3: But the good thing is is in this draft there's

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Speaker 3: a lot of hear your offensive linemen that are available

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Speaker 4: I just checked.

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Speaker 3: They have a pick in every round. So why not

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Speaker 4: It's just not in free agency where we.

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Speaker 1: That's how much we don't want Aaron Rodgers as part

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Speaker 4: It's very unlike them as a franchise.

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Speaker 2: It's a mess. I just I just want better for us.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's move on from Aaron Rodgers too much.

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Speaker 4: Let's go to support that rant.

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Speaker 1: Well, we need more disagreements on this show, frankly, and

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Speaker 1: Celts and it's going to be a difficult couple weeks

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Speaker 1: here at the NFL Daily. But that's months ahead. Let's

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Speaker 1: talk about the NFL. Let's talk about DeAndre Hopkins. This

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Speaker 1: happened after we taped our last show. He is a

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Speaker 1: member of the Baltimore Ravens. I always remember that tweety

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Speaker 1: sent out. It was a picture of him and Lamar

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Speaker 1: Jackson and Derrick Henry, like, imagine how much you know,

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Speaker 1: we could do if we were all together. And this

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Speaker 1: was during COVID I think it was five years ago.

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Speaker 1: Now they are all together. It's not the same Nuke

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Speaker 1: that you know he used to be, but it's kind

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Speaker 1: of the same Derrick Henry that he used to be,

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Speaker 1: and it's it's even better Lamar Jackson. So I like

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Speaker 1: him trying to rebound from what was a pretty disappointing

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Speaker 1: run as a member of the Kansas City Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, he shows up and he makes some

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Speaker 3: plays early and then disappears. And we've seen that with

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Speaker 3: a number of n season acquisitions. I'm not going to

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Speaker 3: hold that against him because I still think that he's

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Speaker 3: despite the age that he's at, which you know, he's

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Speaker 3: going into your thirty age thirty three season.

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Speaker 4: You know, he turned thirty three in June.

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Speaker 3: That's you know, that's gonna be a bit of knock

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Speaker 3: on him. But I like to fit with this offense

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Speaker 3: because I think what they lacked was a taller target

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Speaker 3: not playing tight end, and DeAndre is not you know,

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Speaker 3: Calvin Johnson. He's only six to one, but he's still

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Speaker 3: bigger than Jay Flowers and he's probably around the same size,

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Speaker 3: if not a little taller than Rashad Bateman. And I

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Speaker 3: think that the fit in the style of playworks well.

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Speaker 3: Flowers is a speedy guy, he's catch and run master.

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Speaker 3: Bateman can take the top off of defense. Hopkins still

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Speaker 3: has fantastic hands, even if he's lost half of a

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Speaker 3: step or so in his career at this point in

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Speaker 3: his you know, journey. So I think the fit's great.

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Speaker 3: I think it balances out their offense. It makes a

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Speaker 3: ton of sense for me. As long as he can

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Speaker 3: stay healthy, he doesn't have to be the guy, and

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Speaker 3: he gives him another experienced player who can help them

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Speaker 3: as they try to make the Super Bowl and finally

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Speaker 3: get over this hump and more.

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Speaker 2: Great players just chase rings at the end of their career.

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Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins has made enough money to do so, but

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Speaker 1: I suspect he really prioritized getting with a team and

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Speaker 1: a quarterback that would give him a chance because he's

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Speaker 1: their number three or four receiver. They might add someone,

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Speaker 1: but Bateman makes more money and more important to them.

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Speaker 1: Zay Flowers obviously is two, but he is one of

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Speaker 1: the great improvisers of his generation. DeAndre Hopkins, he's kind,

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Speaker 1: he's kind of the wide receiver Travis Kelcey. He's running

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Speaker 1: his own routes out there and he's making it happen.

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Speaker 1: And he made great magic with Kyler Murray. And when

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Speaker 1: I think about Lamar Jackson, obviously a great pocket quarterback,

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Speaker 1: but also a great creative quarterback when the play breaks down,

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Speaker 1: and that's where I think you'll see Hopkins's value along

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Speaker 1: with the red zone. They also released Marcus Williams, their

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Speaker 1: safety who was close to the top of my free

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Speaker 1: agent board a few years ago.

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Speaker 2: That was a signing that did not work out.

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Speaker 1: They also released Arthur Molett who was a slot cornerback

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Speaker 1: for them. We're gonna take a quick break and then

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Speaker 1: we'll wrap up the news from yes this first day

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Speaker 1: of the.

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Speaker 2: New league year.

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Speaker 1: I hope you guys are getting down with your new

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Speaker 1: league year parties.

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Speaker 2: Back on NFL Daily.

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Speaker 1: It's Sicko's week, you know, Well, yeah, really it is.

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Speaker 1: We'll do awards and we'll have fun segments and all that,

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Speaker 1: but this week, this week is for the people that

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Speaker 1: want Nick Shook's take on Levi on Wuzerique signing with

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Speaker 1: the Lions. And you might say, and when I re

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Speaker 1: listened to the show sometimes I'm like, you.

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Speaker 2: Got to say, what position does he play?

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Speaker 1: Some context, A defensive tackle drafted pretty high by the

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Speaker 1: Lions second rounder four years ago, a lot of back problems,

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Speaker 1: but I thought really played well. One of those guys

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Speaker 1: that I might have ranked higher on my list Nick

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Speaker 1: than the NFL viewed. Because he ended up settling with

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Speaker 1: the Lions for only four point five million dollars. That

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Speaker 1: might have been a medical issue reason that people, you know,

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Speaker 1: wanted to see his medical before really giving him a

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Speaker 1: lot of money. But the Lions have done a quietly

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Speaker 1: good job actually bringing back a lot of their own players.

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Speaker 2: What do you think.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the only surprise so far is that they got

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Speaker 3: rid of Zadarius Smith. Otherwise they're keeping most of that

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Speaker 3: group intact, which big fan of I think that they

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Speaker 3: still need to make an addition on the front opposite

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Speaker 3: Aiden Hutchinson. But overall this works out for me. This

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Speaker 3: is fine and the money is You're absolutely right. You

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Speaker 3: talked about one disagreements. We're not going to get a

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Speaker 3: disagreement here. As is the guy who has had some

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Speaker 3: injury issues. It's cost him some money, but ultimately he

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Speaker 3: goes back to the team that he knows well and

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Speaker 3: they try to make another run at it.

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Speaker 1: They're really deep up front and they have been aggressive

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Speaker 1: trying to basically solve a defensive line that's been a problem.

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Speaker 1: Here are the players on their defensive line right now.

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Speaker 1: Aiden Hutchinson is your starting edge after the second edge

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Speaker 1: spot is definitely their biggest weakness. It's Josh Pascal, It's

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Speaker 1: Marcus Davenport. They need to add someone there, but in

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Speaker 1: the middle it's own Uza Rique. They sign Roy Lopez

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Speaker 1: from Arizona. That's a signing we have not mentioned, but

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Speaker 1: a typical Lion kind of a try hard lunch Paale

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Speaker 1: type of guy who made some noise with the Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: Ali McNeil is their their star there. Dj Reider is

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Speaker 1: still on this roster. They drafted McKay Wingo, who played

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Speaker 1: a decent amount for them. They brought back Derek Barnes,

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Speaker 1: who's sort of a linebacker, but he's also an edge

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Speaker 1: maybe a little bit of a Zach Bond vibe with

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Speaker 1: Derek Barnes. Like, they have a lot of dudes up front.

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Speaker 1: And I think anyone that thinks that the Lions are

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Speaker 1: taking a step back just because whatever they're oh maybe

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Speaker 1: they're Super Bowl window closed, Like, I don't buy it.

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Speaker 1: To me, they are the favorites along with the Eagles,

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Speaker 1: at least early. I know we got a while to

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Speaker 1: go in this offseason, but I don't see why they

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Speaker 3: And they had one of my favorite corners and Dj Reid,

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Speaker 3: a guy who I thought was lost in the shadow

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Speaker 3: of Sauce Gardner, who's played really well in New York

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Speaker 3: over the last few years. So yeah, I agree. I

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Speaker 3: think they've done a great job this offseason. And yeah,

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Speaker 3: they have to deal with coordinator changes because they lost

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Speaker 3: their coordinator's head coaching jobs. But it's if you're gonna

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Speaker 3: weather that you keep most of your guys intact and

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Speaker 3: hope that you can run it back with you know,

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Speaker 3: largely the same group. Make another addition in.

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Speaker 4: The draft, a few maybe, and you know, line them

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Speaker 4: back up.

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Speaker 1: So a former Lion, Kevin Zeitler, who played well for

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Speaker 1: them at guard last year, raised his value, ended up

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Speaker 1: getting nine million dollars from the Titans.

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Speaker 2: Surprising move.

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Speaker 1: They really have their offensive line totally locked up. They

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Speaker 1: have spent a ton of money between Dan Moore and

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Speaker 1: Kevin Zeitler and the draft picks that they have on

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Speaker 1: their offensive line.

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Speaker 2: But Brian Callahan, he's got a vision for it.

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Speaker 1: That offensive line better be good because they basically invested

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Speaker 1: their entire team between picks and money in making it good.

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Speaker 1: We will see how that works. Let's talk a little

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Speaker 1: quarterback backups here. Marcus Mariota is back with the Commanders.

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Speaker 1: Didn't end up having a market elsewhere. Got eight million dollars,

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Speaker 1: so that's true backup money, about the same that he

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Speaker 1: got last year. I think you might have got a

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Speaker 1: million dollar raise. He played great for them, so that's

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Speaker 1: a no brainer. Jonathan Jones my NFL Daily buddy that

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Speaker 1: joined us. You were with me on that interview, right

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Speaker 1: shook the Patriots and Jonathan Taylor, Okay, Jonathan Jones and

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Speaker 1: Christen Gonzales they joined us on NFL Daily, and uh oh,

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Speaker 1: I was better.

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Speaker 3: No, come on, bro, it was a former one. It

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Speaker 3: was Malcolm Butler that I was there for the Patriots.

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Speaker 1: Okay, he joined the Commanders too. Just while we're on Commanders.

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Speaker 1: And then Jacoby Brissett is an Arizona Cardinal. I like

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Speaker 1: that Jacoby Brisett move. We heard that they were going

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Speaker 1: to invest in their backup and they got a good

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Speaker 1: one in Jacoby Brissett behind Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this time of the year, you see a lot

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Speaker 3: of familiar connections rekindling when players move around, and this

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Speaker 3: time it's Brissett. An offensive coordinator. Drew Petsing who was

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Speaker 3: the quarterbacks coach in Cleveland when he started those eleven

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Speaker 3: twelve games that number the first year that Jshaun Motson

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Speaker 3: was there and was out due to suspension, and did

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Speaker 3: a pretty good job. Was a locker room favorite, master

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Speaker 3: of the quarterback sneak and kept the Browns competitive that

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Speaker 3: season and the Cardinals have a nice insurance policy for

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Speaker 3: Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 1: And if Kyler Murray struggles like they'll play Jacoby Brissett.

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Speaker 1: I The buzz around Arizona this offseason was straight that

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Speaker 1: they wanted to invest at quarterback, and then they end

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Speaker 1: up with Brissett. Obviously he's not competing for the job.

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Speaker 1: I just mean if Kyler Murray had an awful season,

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Speaker 1: they would probably pull the rip cord. That's unlikely to happen.

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Speaker 1: I think Kyler Murray's gonna have a good season back.

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Speaker 1: This signing also reminded me how quiet it's been in

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Speaker 1: Arizona this I thought they were going to be one

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Speaker 1: of the teams that spent like crazy in free agency,

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Speaker 1: and we've heard that they were in on a lot

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Speaker 1: of these free agents and they didn't get very many

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Speaker 1: then they have been quiet. I thought they'd be like

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Speaker 1: the Patriots and the Jaguars and the Bears. I thought

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Speaker 1: they'd be one of those teams that was just all

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Speaker 1: over free agency, and they really haven't been. I know

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Speaker 1: their fan base is a little frustrated. Right now, Let's

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Speaker 1: talk about the Jets, who brought in Josh Myers, another

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Speaker 1: guy who I might have rated a little too high

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Speaker 1: in my free agency. I need to get like an

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Speaker 1: offensive lineman consiglieri who helps me out, because some of

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Speaker 1: my offensive linemen that I went with, they got huge money,

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Speaker 1: but in other hands, like Josh Myers, didn't get much cash.

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Speaker 1: Tevin Jenkins is still out there. Meanwhile Aaron Banks is

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Speaker 1: getting seventy eight million dollars. You're shaking your head at me, shook.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm just saying, give me a call, man, Okay,

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Speaker 4: what if.

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Speaker 1: You have told me not to rank Josh Myers in

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Speaker 1: the top fifty, what have you?

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Speaker 3: I would have been in the top fifty. I'd probably

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Speaker 3: land in the back end of the top fifty. I

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Speaker 3: wouldn't play.

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Speaker 1: I would feel fine if he was at seventy five

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Speaker 1: right now, but he was too high up. I think

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Speaker 1: I had him in the thirties. He settles for one year,

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Speaker 1: three point five million dollars. I think the Jets have

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Speaker 1: a good offensive line on paper, and I'm gonna be

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Speaker 1: interested to see how their new coordinator, Tanner Ekstrom coaches

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Speaker 1: it up, because you know, in Detroit they certainly knew

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Speaker 1: how to do that. He comes from Detroit and Myers

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Speaker 1: could either start, he could be a swing guy. He

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Speaker 1: could push their their young guy Joe Tipman to guard

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Speaker 1: and he plays center. We'll see it. They also released CJ. Moseley,

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Speaker 1: So that's a little surprising because it just came so

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Speaker 1: late in the process.

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Speaker 2: Just happened a few hours ago. You're shaking your head.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean been they were waiting on releasing Rogers

657
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Speaker 3: as well, so like it just seems to be that's

658
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Speaker 3: the way they do business. But Mosley, when it came

659
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Speaker 3: to releasing him, made a ton of sense because he

660
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Speaker 3: never lived up to the contract that he signed with them.

661
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Speaker 3: He was never the guy that they thought they were

662
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Speaker 3: getting when he left the Ravens.

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Speaker 4: To go to the Jets.

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Speaker 3: So they have better players and Jamie Sherwood's been a

665
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Speaker 3: better linebacker and he got paid for it. So I

666
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Speaker 3: felt like this one was coming. In fact, Mosley was

667
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Speaker 3: one of those players where I was like, wow, he's

668
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 3: still on that roster.

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Speaker 4: Huh.

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Speaker 1: Interesting, I I yeah, I don't know what they're doing

671
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Speaker 1: in terms of waiting to make these cuts or not.

672
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Speaker 1: But yeah, mostly ultimately they paid huge money to Jamie

673
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Speaker 1: and Sherwood that that Mosley contract didn't age well. And

674
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Speaker 1: this is how a new regime should run things. They

675
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: should have their own vision. They should get rid of

676
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Speaker 1: the guys that don't make sense from the previous regime.

677
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Speaker 1: You know, it's the type of stuff we aren't seeing,

678
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Speaker 1: for instance, in New Orleans. So to me, it does

679
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Speaker 1: make sense. Let's go to Miami and just a couple

680
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 1: of little updates on the On the Dolphins, they signed

681
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Speaker 1: Nick Westbrook Akine two years six point five million dollars.

682
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Speaker 1: They brought back Tyrel Dodson, who played well for them

683
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: at linebacker, former Bills player, two years eight point five

684
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: million dollars. They also signed James Daniels, who was a

685
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 1: good guard for the Pittsburgh Steelers but tor's achilles last year.

686
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Speaker 1: They gave him three years twenty four million dollars. That

687
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Speaker 1: actually is a discounted rate. If he was out there

688
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Speaker 1: fully healthy, I think he would have done really well

689
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Speaker 1: in this market. And they also signed if A Melafanu.

690
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: So a lot of guys that were tough to pronounce,

691
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Speaker 1: but I nailed it. I like that Nick Westberger Akina

692
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: signing because it wasn't much money and they really could

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Speaker 1: use a third receiver.

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Speaker 3: He's been lost in the abyss that has been Tennessee.

695
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 3: He's actually been a pretty productive player. And if you

696
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 3: look at their receiving corps after Waddle and Hill, it's

697
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 3: been like and and right, and it's kind of just

698
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 3: been a rotating revolving door. Like if you look at

699
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Speaker 3: their depth right now, they have a bunch of like

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Speaker 3: potential guys. They have a bunch of speedsters or guys

701
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Speaker 3: that who maybe this guy will work out if he

702
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 3: gets under the right But they didn't have that solid

703
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 3: number three or they just kept rotating between guys that

704
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Speaker 3: they were giving shots too.

705
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Speaker 4: So I like Westbrooka keene in here. I think he fits.

706
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Speaker 3: He's a nice guy that you can depend on to

707
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Speaker 3: make catches and key situations. You're never going to be

708
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 3: a massive, big play artist, but it's a good fitness offense.

709
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Speaker 1: I thought that the Dolphins would make more noise this offseason,

710
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: maybe with a Tyreek Hill trade.

711
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Speaker 2: I'm not totally ruling that out.

712
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 1: Is Westbrookakinny kind of a just a speedy option to

713
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: replace him? No, but he is a speedy option in general.

714
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: Bradley Chubb still on this roster. I just feel like

715
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: they need more Chris Greer. Their GM is very much

716
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: on the hot seat, and he actually did a good

717
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: job in free agency last year kind of filling the

718
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Speaker 1: holes without a lot of cap space. He's trying to

719
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Speaker 1: thread that needle again. We'll see if he can do it.

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Speaker 1: We mentioned the kayr Elam trade, so he was a

721
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: first round pick of the Bills that just did not

722
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Speaker 1: work out, and the Cowboys are, you know, throwing a

723
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Speaker 1: late round pick for him to give him a shot.

724
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Speaker 2: Not a big deal.

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Speaker 1: They basically did the same with Kenneth Murray, who is

726
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: an other former first round pick originally with the Chargers,

727
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: didn't really work out for the Titans. Like sure, but

728
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: these these moves, these low risk, low reward moves. It's

729
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Speaker 1: just typical of this Cowboys offseason where they bring in

730
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Speaker 1: Devonte Williams. Meanwhile they watch Rico Daudell, who to me

731
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Speaker 1: as a better player, end up signing for the Panthers

732
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Speaker 1: with what I suspect is very similar money. I don't

733
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Speaker 1: know the Cowboys like their selective aggression is quite selective.

734
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Speaker 1: It's not very aggressive. I don't see any reason to

735
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Speaker 1: think that they're going to be better unless they just

736
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Speaker 1: really nail the draft.

737
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I totally agree with you and letting Rico Dabell walk.

738
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Speaker 3: I thought that was an ill informed decision, especially after

739
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 3: the year he had last year and replacing him with Williams,

740
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 3: who is a guy who people loved out of college

741
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 3: and loved when he first came into the league, and

742
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 3: then it has been you could say he's been saddled

743
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 3: behind an offense that can't run the football. Well, well,

744
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 3: the running back has a lot to do with that

745
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 3: as well, so I think that's a downgrade as well.

746
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 3: Interesting on the defensive side though, because you're banking on

747
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 3: Marvin Overs coming back healthy at some point, like Jack

748
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 3: Sanborn's on this roster, their linebacking corter is like a

749
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 3: collection of guys that he's got potential here, but can

750
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 3: we make it bak here. I do like the Elam

751
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 3: trade though, just because it adds a little bit of

752
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 3: depth at corner, and they've had injuries at corner over

753
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 3: the last few years, whether it was Trevon Diggs or

754
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 3: Deron Blanda, They've been caught kind of with their pants down.

755
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 3: They had to go trade for Andrew Booth last year

756
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 3: just to you know, fill another spot. So I like

757
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 3: this move. It's somewhat proactive, but it's not aggressive. And

758
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,959
Speaker 3: for a second straight off season. Yes, there's been some moves,

759
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 3: but nothing big. And oftentimes when you win free agency,

760
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 3: you don't win on the field. With the Cowboys, score

761
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 3: one win, please for your fans.

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Speaker 1: At least Matt Eberfluss can coach up the secondary, but

763
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: so can Sean McDermott. If Kyrie Elam couldn't get it

764
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: done with a team that had all the investment in

765
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: the world from I just doubt he's going to get

766
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: it done.

767
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 2: I know Eric is agreeing with me.

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Speaker 1: Back there, all right, couple more moves, We'll just fly

769
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: through these. DeMarcus Robinson got good money from the forty

770
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Speaker 1: nine ers two years, nine point five million dollars. He

771
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: had a nice couple seasons with the Rams, so that

772
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: that move makes sense for a team that needs a

773
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: little bit of depth there. The Titan signed Van Jefferson

774
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: for a couple million dollars. They added safety Xavier Woods.

775
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: They gave ten million dollars over two years. AJ Dillon

776
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: goes to the Eagles. I mean, that's another big boy

777
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 1: for the tush push. You're excited.

778
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 2: I always have.

779
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 1: Thought aj Dillon could be a solid backup running back,

780
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: and the Eagles is the place to be a solid

781
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:20,919
Speaker 1: backup running back.

782
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Speaker 3: They could use the power back, and as long as

783
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 3: he can keep his neck healthy, he can be that

784
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 3: guy for them. You don't have to give him a

785
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 3: ton of carries. Give him in shortyard situations behind that

786
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 3: offensive line, he could make a difference. And also, Greg

787
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 3: nerd alert here this is me. It's a self fulfilling

788
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 3: prophecy of when I was in a fantasy draft lead

789
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 3: in Madden with a bunch of people from the network

790
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 3: and AJ Dillon was my power back with the Eagles.

791
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Speaker 1: Okay, I love me some AJ Dillon, especially in that role.

792
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: That really wraps up the transactions that I wanted to

793
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Speaker 1: get to. As we're taping Cam Jordan, our colleague Nick

794
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 1: as part of the iHeart NFL Media podcast, Family, announced

795
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: he's returning for the twenty twenty five season. Was a

796
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 1: little up in the air whether he'd be back, whether

797
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 1: the Saints would keep them. So the contract, that looks

798
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 1: like they're all good with that. And he's at one

799
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty one point five career sacks. I know

800
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: he wants to get that number up even higher. Help

801
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: that Hall of Fame candidacy someday, and so you know,

802
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: one of the great long time Saints will be back.

803
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: Like so many other Saints, they're just running it back.

804
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: Also wanted to mention Patrick Mahomes and Chris Jones both

805
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: restructured their contracts this week and it freed up almost

806
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: fifty million dollars in cap space. So teams that want

807
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 1: to spend as much as the Chiefs do and they

808
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: are aggressive, they tried to make as many good moves

809
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: this week as they absolutely could. This is why you

810
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: can do it, because you can always restructure your great

811
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Speaker 1: players contract. They freed up fifty million dollars in cap space.

812
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 1: I know the salary cap, it's real, Nick, but it's

813
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: less of a thing than ever. I'm I'm actually just

814
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: annoyed by the salary cap at this point. You know

815
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 1: how the Patriots that spent all this crazy money, way

816
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: more than any other team in free agency. You know

817
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: how much cap space they still have, like ninety million dollars.

818
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: What is the point of all that cap space after

819
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 1: spending it. It's just I'm gonna stop making this point

820
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 1: at the end of this week because I've made it

821
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: too many times.

822
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 2: But it's annoying.

823
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,720
Speaker 4: It feels a lot like the tax code for the wealthy.

824
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 3: They can just find loopholes everywhere just to exploit it

825
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 3: to their and that's what the Chiefs are doing.

826
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Speaker 4: The rich get richer.

827
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Speaker 1: Speaking of which the Minnesota Vikings secondary it's rich in

828
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: talent and in terms of players getting paid. Eric lets

829
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 1: me know that Harrison Smith is officially returning for his

830
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: fourteenth NFL season. His status was up in the air.

831
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Speaker 1: He gets ten million dollars with incentives up to fourteen

832
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: so I think they were renegotiating. He was not a

833
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: free agent, I don't believe, but they figured out how

834
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 1: to bring him back. And man, that defense is awesome

835
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: on paper. I think he just loves playing football and

836
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: he's like, man, this defense and this coaching staff is

837
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 1: too good to say goodbye to.

838
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 2: Yeah.

839
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 3: I thought that they might be being on a guy

840
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 3: like Javon holland if Smith were to walk away. Instead

841
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 3: he comes back, I think he probably feels like they

842
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 3: have unfinished business and as a bonus, another season's worth

843
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 3: of coffee in the morning with Kevin O'Connell, which they

844
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:13,240
Speaker 3: love to do together.

845
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Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, now that Cooper Cup and Matthew Stafford aren't

846
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: getting their coffees.

847
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 2: Wasn't that a thing? Or breakfast together? Really?

848
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: Harrison Smith and Kevin O'Connell taking over as the pre

849
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 1: eminent breakfast duo in the NFL. We're not leaving anything

850
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,720
Speaker 1: on the table this week. Great job by our friend

851
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,240
Speaker 1: Nick Shap appreciate you man.

852
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 4: Little pancake guy, myself Greg.

853
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 3: Since we're talking breakfast, but this week it's Wednesday dedicated

854
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:38,280
Speaker 3: to waffles.

855
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 1: Yes, we will be back on Thursday, tying up all

856
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: those loose ends with my friend Patrick Claybon. Yeah, when

857
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 1: I am convincing myself that Jacoby Brissett just found the

858
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 1: perfect landing spot, He's.

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00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 2: Never looked better. You know, Football's back,